Abortion is a form of death to complex cell division and life, I will not argue that. However I don't see anyone boycotting 'mouse traps', Ive never once seen someone shed a tear over a can of pesticide or weed killer. Infact, Nato spends trillions of OUR taxes to bomb "fundamentalists" in far away lands&Ive hardly heard a peep about it. What constitutes as life? A potential form of life? Because less than 20 minutes ago I stomped out a scary wolfspider and I know I'll sleep better tonight
@patientthomist god damnit, you really underestimate how much ive thought about this, just like everyone else
there's a difference with the nazis - they fucking tortured and people and killed people with families and all that shit. there's a big difference with abortion - there's no pain involved, and no one is emotionally attached to the fetus which is "killed"
Are you saying it's worse to snuff out human life at 20 or 30 years of age than at 20 or 30 days of age? There's no pain involved? Really? What about the pain caused to the little person who never gets to experience ANYTHING outside the womb? What about the suppressed pain that most women feel who get abortions? Not emotionally attached? Get real -- ask the women at Project Rachel and other such groups if they feel emotional attachment to their aborted child.
@patientthomist but what's the alternative? they bring the child into a life of poverty or a broken home or into a house with no parents ever around? you should be the one asking yourself "what about the child"
I feel for what your saying. Our communities MUST do more to support women. MUST. MUST. Nevertheless, poverty and broken homes, although a guaranteed struggle, are not reason enough to terminate human life. My sister was adopted, and abortion was an option. Our home was a good home, but even if it wasn't that good, I know she would not have preferred to be aborted. Let's survey the ones who struggle through poverty .. let's ask them if they preferred to live!
People don't take the time to plan out scenarios of why some girls may want an abortion. I believe the woman should have her right to choose for an abortion or not.
I myself never thought they were her friends. They called her a baby killer and a monster....I cannot believe that Christians would say such things! What did they want my mother to bleed to death on the operating table?! I am Pro-Life BUT I'm also Pro-choice because there are times when it is NEEDED.
@Eternalsummersong There are a billion and one stories like yours told by pro-lifers to try and involve emotion in the issue. The ONLY reason you have to be pro-life is religious. Abortion gives women rights over their own bodies, something christianity cant stand for. Im an atheist, so your religious arguments dont mean shit. Do you have any logical arguments to test out?
@TheCaptainLulz: I'm caught between pro-life and pro-choice. My mother did have a tubal pregnancy she did almost die and her christian pro-life friends attacked her. Also did I say I was Christian? I don't believe so. What a woman does with her body is her choice. They should know how to protect themselves from getting pregnant and STD's. And I don't care that you're an atheist woop-de-fucking-doo. I don't give a shit if you believe me. Good day. ^_^
@TheCaptainLulz: And there are many that are true. How do you know she is lying? Because she isn't. I've talked to this young lady and she has a LOT of problems from being abused. She even told me she wished they aborted her. She has problems that you know nothing about. Tubal pregnancies are real it is actually called an Ectopic pregnancy and I will explain what it is. cont....
@TheCaptainLulz: An ectopic pregnancy, or eccysis , is a complication of pregnancy in which the embryo implants outside the uterine cavity. With rare exceptions, ectopic pregnancies are not viable. Furthermore, they are dangerous for the mother, internal haemorrhage being a life threatening complication. Most ectopic pregnancies occur in the Fallopian tube (so-called tubal pregnancies), but implantation can also occur in the cervix, ovaries, and abdomen. cont.....
@TheCaptainLulz: In a normal pregnancy, the fertilized egg enters the uterus and settles into the uterine lining where it has plenty of room to divide and grow. About 1% of pregnancies are in an ectopic location with implantation not occurring inside of the womb, and of these 98% occur in the Fallopian tubes. Detection of ectopic pregnancy in early gestation has been achieved mainly due to enhanced diagnostic capability. cont...
@TheCaptainLulz: Despite all these notable successes in diagnostics and detection techniques ectopic pregnancy remains a source of serious maternal morbidity and mortality worldwide, especially in countries with poor prenatal care. In a typical ectopic pregnancy, the embryo adheres to the lining of the fallopian tube and burrows into the tubal lining. Most commonly this invades vessels and will cause bleeding. cont....
@TheCaptainLulz: This intratubal bleeding hematosalpinx expels the implantation out of the tubal end as a tubal abortion. Tubal abortion is a common type of miscarriage. There is no inflammation of the tube in ectopic pregnancy. The pain is caused by prostaglandins released at the implantation site, and by free blood in the peritoneal cavity, which is a local irritant. cont...
@TheCaptainLulz: Sometimes the bleeding might be heavy enough to threaten the health or life of the woman. Usually this degree of bleeding is due to delay in diagnosis, but sometimes, especially if the implantation is in the proximal tube (just before it enters the uterus), it may invade into the nearby Sampson artery, causing heavy bleeding earlier than usual.
@TheCaptainLulz: If left untreated, about half of ectopic pregnancies will resolve without treatment. These are the tubal abortions. The advent of methotrexate treatment for ectopic pregnancy has reduced the need for surgery; however, surgical intervention is still required in cases where the Fallopian tube has ruptured or is in danger of doing so. This intervention may be laparoscopic or through a larger incision, known as a laparotomy.
@TheCaptainLulz: Please stop picking apart peoples own personal stories because you have a problem with religion. The thing you said to her were rude,cold and just plain childish. Shams on you and I don't GIVE a damn if you ARE an Atheist have a little more sympathy. I've hear Atheists have good morals....you lack them.
@Funkeychikenwooohooo NO. I dont dive the first 2 shits if you are offended. This is the internet, there are plenty of people who would have been ALOT harder on her. And still not a 1 logical argument.
@TheCaptainLulz: And there are a LOT of people who would be a LOT harder on you. I'm a nurse I've seen people die on the operating table from an Ectopic pregnancy. This young woman knows a LOT about problems concerning pregnancies she also leans toward science more then the bible. I've talked to this young lady she is pro-choice for the right reasons. So stop bitching at her you make us pro-choicers look like idiots. Do us a favor and grow up along with the others who would be harder on her.
@TheCaptainLulz: And I'm done with this conversation Captainputz. Yes you're a putz and a jerk. Come back in about ten years when you've grown up and then I'll take you seriously. And I'm not a bit mad I just think you're an idiot for attacking random people.
@TheCaptainLulz: Yes angry, bitter, hateful people like you actually end up hurting people like her who actually tells the truth in regards to her own mom. I know her on here and on FB and I know her mom on FB as well and yes her mother had a tubal pregnancy and had to abort it. She did tell the truth. Also her mother is pro-choice even though the only abortion she had was the tubal. You make decent people who are pro-choice look like whining,bitching brats. Congrats you are an ass sir.
@TheCaptainLulz: Oh and before you open you mouth and insert your foot I'm pro-choice. And Christian so I just blew your mind. Not ALL Christians are pro-life. -_-
And yes I'm pro life. BUT my mother when she got herself off of beer and drugs....she got pregnant. She was so excited! I think two month in she didn't feel well and stated bleeding no not normally I mean BLEEDING a puddle of blood! My grandad, uncle and stepdad (he was also clean now) took her to the hospital they said she had an Ectopic pregnancy the baby was in the tube and it burst. They had to abort the baby and fix the tube. My mother was crushed. Her pro-life friends attacked her. Cont..
@mystery8881 Well, in my particular situation, my mom was lonely and she changed her tune (used to be against it) about abortion when I told her she should have aborted me. But I can't hate her for it. I mean I do wish to just never have been in this world, but I can't hate her for what she did.
@vgman94: I told my mom the same thing "why didn't you abort me."
My mom: Because I wanted you even though you were not planned I love you!!! Your daddy wanted and loved you as well (my father died a few months after I was born and my leg was broken my mom was thrown out of the car and had pretty bad head injuries.) My mother after she got with my stepfather became mean and abusive (she was drunk almost all the time) my stepfather was also abusive he almost beat me to death. cont..
@vgman94: Actually there wasn't a time I didn't have bruises and lumps on my head and bald spots where my mother pulled my hair out....I remember him telling me that God hated me. I was blamed for their troubles, I was blamed for their fights (which were violent) I had burns where she burnt me with her cigarettes. After he beat me to the point I couldn't walk or sit and I had trouble breathing (I was 9) I had Bruises EVERYWHERE even down there some were purple others were black..cont...
@vgman94: My grandma took me in it was touch and go for a while every time she moved her hand I thought she was going to hit me. It took me a full year to completely trust her and my Grandad. I started to call her my mother because she took care of me kept me feed made sure I had clothes and a nice big bed. Lol! She spoiled me. My mom through all my child and teenage years was always drunk. And she just started getting sober now. I don't know her. Cont..
@vgman94: That's why I asked the question. Because my mother chose beer over not only me but my sister as well. And she beat me as did my step father that may be the beer talking but it makes me wander if she really wanted to beat me and the beer made her lose her inhibitions so she could do so.
@Eternalsummersong Wow. You should talk to people at school and get people alerted to your situation. What she's doing isn't legal. This isn't right. Possibly. She certainly isn't qualified to be a mother if her true wishes would be to hurt you. Being drunk shows people's true personalities and instincts, which means she isn't a nice person at heart.
@vgman94: I'm an adult now. But they did get into trouble my grandparents took me in a became my Guardians. My was a drunk she was on drugs addicted to sex ( lets just say I was taught the birds and the bees at five) But I'm okay now. My mother is getting her life together and she's trying to reconnect with both my sister and I.
@vgman94: Actually we want to connect. She is our mom....even though she did a lot of bad things I still love her. She is in rehab right now though. And she in Alcoholics Anonymous. I'm glad she getting herself together. She's a whole different person from what she was.
@vgman94: I hope so too. She did put her latest husband in prison for hitting her the head with a hammer. She almost died. But she pulled through and she has trouble talking. When she's sober she is really fun to be around.
Sounds like a compliment; Course I think life should be lived to the fullest and that everyone is entitled to life, I don't get how unwanted kids lives are any less valuable..?
There's no legit reason to have an abortion. If the fetus is sick it can get better by medicine after birth. It is safer to go full term than to have an abortion and in most cases cheaper.
I agree completely!! My 3 month old daughter is an "inconvenience" to me. Seeing as I and my family are clearly irrelevant, I think I'll take her out back and and take her head off with a hand axe! Your should've seen your severe retardation and killed you. Fuck stupid people
@YZ450f24 If you don't get pregnant then it won't be a person either. Every single ovum is a potential human. 50% of embryos expell from the body naturally. If you are not bothered by the fact that 50% "embryos" expell naturally then why are you bothered by an early term abortion. The results are the same. And if you say the person shouldn't get pregnant, well then there is no life in that case either.
Really?? ALL OF YOU THAT ARE FOR ABIRTION ARE IDIOTS. IF YOU CANT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR LAYING ON YOUR BACK THAN USE A DAMN CONDOM IR BIRTH CONTROL!!! FUCCIN IDIOTS
@piinkciinny01 What if a 13-year-old girl was raped. The rapist did not use a condom, and the girl did not know anything about birth control. She did not tell anyone because she was scared the rapist might found out. Then I don't see why she has to give birth to that baby. The embry CAN NOT feel anything in an early abortion, but the girl surely can if she is forced to give birth. Prioritise.
Chicken fetuses dont have feelings yet you still oppose eating them. If you had no nerve endings would it be alright to kill you because you dont feel? If someone is in great pain there is medicine for that. Things happen and people can escape pain without killing themself. They cant escape death once they are dead. Personal decisions can only go so far. Everything can be a personal decision. Thats why there are laws
themselves. Why not just give the baby up for adoption. At least they can have babies unlike some women who wish they could.I'm glad my mother didn't abort me (if she even though of doing it). Don't women who abort think the same thing?
I am definitely anti abortion. I am a female and I can get pregnant. I am also Catholic but I won't let my beliefs get in the way of my comment for those of you who don't share the same beliefs as me. Embryo=Life and Fetus=Life so having an abortion on an embryo and fetus is the same thing in my eyes. I consider women who get abortions as murderers. Killing a human life is murder. It is not right to chose when someone dies. I think those women take advantage that babies can't speak or think for
@lolasorocks10 "You consider women who have abortions murders" Ok. I consider Christians who force children into existence against their will as sadists. If you believe that every person has a potential of an eternity of torture in hell and you force them into existence then you are complicent in the crime.
@lolasorocks10 How about women who use protection ... They also kill a lot lives... semen is full of little guys. It is as much as alive and human then a 1 week foetus. How about those women who use protection ? They kill the opportunity to create life. The life wants to grow, but she kills it right at the beginning. She also a murderer ?
@aegisknox Are you a fucking retard? Women don't kill sperm. Sperm isnt even life until it fertilizes an egg. Killing an OPPORTUNITY is better than killing a BABY. And even if it's considered 'killing' the man would be 'killing the sperm too.
@lolasorocks10, Thank you. If the girl didn't want to have the baby, she shouldn't have had sex or she should have took precautions cause last time I checked birth control, condoms, female condoms, etc. were all pretty damn effective.
If thats the case you should consider stopping. Because then you support the killing of cows, pigs, sheeps etc. A 10-12 week old child is not capable of thinking higher then a cow. Humans first begin to get conscious when they are arround 16-18 weeks in the mothers belly. Sometimes it akes 20-24 weeks...
As long as you eat cow, pig and sheep, you support me.
@xFightingFalcon No it's not. A 12 week old fetus has not even conciousnes.
A cow has at least a developed brain. Humans first get brain activity when they are between 22-26 weeks old in the mothers belly.
If you call that murder you should consider to call masturbation murder to. Because when you masturbate, you kill tens of thousands of your possible kids you could have had.
@VictumRoManius If they outcome of masturbating was the same as having sexual intercourse with a woman, then women wouldn't be going through the hassle of carrying a fetus in their stomach for nine months.
@VictumRoManius Personally I can not compare a cows life to that of a human's. A full grown cow may have a developed brain, which it obviously should. However a developing child would obviously still be developing. Human beings are the only form of intelligent life on Earth. You won't see a cow inventing anything will you? But that child very well could.
@xFightingFalcon Thats exactly the point. That fetus will be an intelligent human being in the future. At the time the abortion is caried out, the child has no brain activity. If you masturbate, you kill thousands of human beings who MAY had done something important in human history. We cannot let thoughts about the future controll our lifes here and now. Usually woman have a good reason to take abortion.The child MAY become a new Einstein. But the child MAY also become a street thug.
@VictumRoManius What the fuck is wrong with you? You think humans and animals are the same thing? Human life is more important that animals. So you'd rather kill your own baby than a chicken? Waste yute.
@lolasorocks10 "It is not right to chose when someone dies".. Therefore society itself is the embodiment of murders. We condemn "someone" to death everyday. Sometimes abortions are necessary. What if a young girl was sexually abused, should she keep that baby when it was not the product of "love and passion between two beings"?... Not saying you're young by believing in "pro-life" but maybe you should think before labelling "pro-abortioners" murderers. You don't know what their reason was..
@JesyJaY935 Girls usually get their periods at around 13 so thats when they can get pregnant. I know a girl who got pregnant at 13/14 and she kept her baby. If you KILL a fetus/baby the you are a MURDERER. KILLING human life=MURDER. They don't have a reason to kill a baby. Your'e acting as if the only options are KEEP or KILL the baby. Just because something bad happened to the girl (rape) doesn't mean she has to do something bad to the baby. It wasn't the baby's fault she got raped.
@lolasorocks10 So she should keep the baby and go to school with a huge stomach and have to suffer through emotional trauma for the rest of her life? Sure, we're not blaming the baby.. But why give her that responsibility when she doesn't need it in the first place? She could give it up for adoption but she'd STILL have to keep it for 9 months.. The only options ARE keep or discard the fetus. Unless you can think of another option but whatever.. I'm not here to change nobody's mind.
@JesyJaY935 Yes she should! The only way I could see that she wouldnt have to is in rape. But if it was her choice to have sex and not us protection, then she should face the consequences.
how come its ok to kill a stalk of brocolli but not a fetus? that brocolli will never grow up to murder anyones whole family but that baby might. i am very pro abortion. it lowers the crime rate. less unwanted children, less crime. its a fact. it happened in new york but rudy took all the credit.
Abortion is not murder. What gets terminated is a small group of cells without rights or a voice. Its not being denied these rights or voice, it just has no use for them because it is not a separate entity from its host that does have rights and a voice. If your arguement involves god, you lose because god is dead. Or he never lived, hey maybe god IS abortion...
People are crazy... For some reason, individuals commenting really want to tell this dude how to believe... If he is for abortion, he is for it... The logic in the defense of pro-lifers is illogical (real word?) Benjamin Wirtz compared an actual human being to a fetus... A fetus is just a mass of cells that cannot live outside of the womb, that's why there are limits... But you all don't look at that because you're all to filled with ignorance, intolerance, and the inability to actually think!
If my brother was aborted he would have never existed. I would have been born after and therefore never have know him. It doesn't matter if it's a group of cells, it's what those sells have the potential to be. This is a future human with every right to life but it's taken away because some people wanted to screw without thinking about the consequences. I know exactly what it is and it's peoples lack of responsibilty that leads them to believe its abortion is right.
Do you know that as much as 25% of pregnancies end in miscarriages anyway... Do you know that their are so many unwanted children that are brought into this world, who are abused... Do you know that the world is already overpopulated... Do you know that you don't have the right to tell some one what to do with their body... Do you know that you haven't got the right to tell someone what to feel... I'm just sayin'... Please don't respond to this... Thanks...
It's peoples lack of responsibility that leads people to believe abortion is right. If you don't want children there are procedures you can take to prevent that. So if someone i know is shoving a needle full of heroine into their arm I have no right telling them not to do it according to your logic? There are a lot of people that are abused that grow up to be fine people. I was abused and told I wasn't wanted and I'm glad I'm alive. Just sayin... please don't respond to this..thnx
Wow... Really... Someone having an abortion is different from a heroine addict... Grow up... Address the issues... Abortion is the for the person who is pregnant to decide... There are regulations that are in place so that it is not done at an inhumane time... I'd ask you not to respond again, but I can see by your logic that you must be a teenager, or at least you act like one... I could be rude but I won't, just do the world a favor and drop your holier than thou attitude...
What are you talking about? You're the one calling people crazy. You're saying I'm ignorant and intolerant because I don't believe abortion is right? You say the world is overpopulated... wrong, you say that it's okay because these kids will be abused( so basically it's better for them to not live anyway?) wrong again. I never told anyone what to do with their body. I'd just hope after getting an abortion they take proper procedures to sterilize themselves.
Hi IGNORAMOUS... Do you know that by the year 2050 the earth, as a whole, is going to have to find a completely different means to feed the population because the population boom is too great for it to sustain... Yes RETARD, it is much better, look at the Nix case, this child was eventually killed from YEARS of abuse, not months... And in saying to get sterilized, you are in fact telling someone what to do with their body... ANYTHING ELSE YOU BUFFOON...
What have I said that gives me a holier than thous attitude? You made ludicrous comments then tell me not to respond lol, that's just stupid. You are the one that needs to address the issue. You can also see that I'm questioning your logic, of course heroine and abortion is different but in the end, according to your logic, nobody has the right to tell them what to do so If someone wants to abort, let them. And if someone wants to do heroine, let them, pro choice right?
By the by... Are you just stupid for no reason... First, let's play a game called spell check when we post... Second, grab a dictionary, because it may do you some good... Third and finally, were you ever dropped on your head as a child, because I am curious now...
You have some serious psychotic issues. You said the earth was over populated, it is not, it will in the future but as of now it is not overpopulated. So therefore you were wrong. I said i would hope people would get sterilized, i never said they had to. Saying abortion is right because kids get abused is stupid. Many children that get abused are wanted, they are abused because the parents have issues with themselves, not just because they didn't want a kid.
Um, it's not. Yes, there are countries that are but that doesn't make abortion right. I live in Canada, you are not gonna sit there and tell me my country is overpopulated. IF the worlds resources were spread evenly we could accommodate everyone. The population curve is going down, people are having less and less children. You wanna support population countrol then you are opening up a whole new bag of shit that will only cheapen life further.
@dobadriver "The population curve is going down, people are having less and less children."
Just to clarify that... the world's population is still increasing - and fast. What is true however, is that the UN's population data suggests that we might be able to see when the population will peak. Google "UN population estimates" for some serious data here.
@dobadriver The UN low reproduction estimate will peaks in the mid 2030s somewhat over 7 billion. The Mid estimate approaches stability a bit after 2050 around 9 billion. The high estimate does not stabilize within a reasonable time frame and is around 10-11ish billion at 2050.
And abortion is all about population control? If it sucks to be born poor then why don't we just do some population control, go around and kill every poor person on this planet. That way if you can't pay your bills you are killed. There will be enough jobs for people that wanna work and countries will not have to waste money on poor places like Haiti and so on. If abortion is right due to overpopulation then lets take the next step and eliminate the poor...... wooh
@dobadriver Spreading the world's resources evenly is both a pipe dream and a ridiculous notion of fairness that ignores property rights and rights to own production while setting up a new principle that implies that having as many children as possible is the best way to increase wealth in developing countries.
Sorry, that's a recipe for disaster. Population control wins hands down. The fair way to do it is to make sure each country is held responsible for feeding its own population.
I can tell your argument is weak. You are responding in anger which is connected to fear. You know the holes in your logic and you can't have a nice civil talk with me on here without calling me names. You are also really funny and I wish for you to keep responding. You are actually attacking my spelling meanwhile you can't even use the words " there and their " properly. I didn't know that spelling was such an important topic to discuss when speaking of abortion. You are a clown.
@dobadriver ... This is not anger, but frustration...You are part of the special breed of people...Okay, I see... What's cool is that the more replies I get from you, the more idiotic you appear... Which only means that I was correct in my presumption of you originally...There is nothing in any statement I made that is false, look it up on line if you have to, but you won't because that is the type of person that you are...Congratulations!!! Pssst, you should reread this entire conversation...
So then by your logic, someone who is completely paralyzed, say like Stephen Hawking, except they also are severly mentally handicapped and so are not self aware. They have no right to life because they can't feel and are not self aware, according to your logic
0:20-0:44 It's ok aslong as they don't feel. Oooh I see, so it's alright for me to murder someone as long as I knock them out cold in a painless way first. Well in that case I think I'll head down to the coma ward of my local hospital and have a little shooting spree, just for fun. After all, none of them can feel it can they?
"To me the fact that it feels is morally relevant, regardless of whether it is a human or another animal. So, an embryo that doesn't feel has no moral relevance whatsoever if we look at it logically. It only becomes relevant once it feels. Vegetarians don't blindy worship 'life'. So as long as it doesn't feel we can't do anything wrong to it, so abortion is ok."
Why is killing an embryo only morally relevent once it feels? Is killing ok as long as the thing killed does not feel it?
Unbelievable, I am wondering if the person talking in the video with such a arguments is a human. So sad to see all the stupid excuses that are used to cover a criminal act as the abortion is. Well each person live according to their conscience. we cannot teach the world to have ethic in their files.
@danielitaiyta Just because it is legal people assume that is a right and just thing. Some people make it sound almost noble when it indeed is NOT. There is no justification to kill their developing flesh and blood just as a means of birth control. If it is used for the right reasons (such as the mother's health is at risk) than abortion (really early on) is necessary.
I had an abortion not too long ago due to some circumstances. Abortion is not bad nor evil. You're absolutely right, it is a PERSONAL CHOICE AND NOT A LEGAL DEBATE. You don't know what you would do until you're in that situation. So cram it you anti abortion cock suckers!!
@missbabydollbuck It wasn't bad or evil to you because you knew you could get back to your promiscuity and you were able to erase your responsibility. If it was a risk to your health it wasn't bad or evil. But if you did it just as a means of birth control, I pity you. I really do.
@soccerbabey Shut the fuck up. you aren't making my mad and the child wasn't developed dumbass. LOL xD. Being that it makes you so upset, i'll make sure I send you a video.
Im a mother of one child. The other one wasn't even a human being.
Thank you. Oh and btw. If you ever said that shit to my face, which you wouldn't.......so many ppl including me would kick your ass:)
@missbabydollbuck You said "the child wasn't developed" and you used the word child! you are contradicting your whole argument you stupid girl! People like you shouldn't HAVE children in the first place. I'm sure being on welfare doesn't heighten your trailer trash standards because you probably spend your money on booze and drugs. Like I said I pity you for being a half brained petri dish of sexually transmitted diseases. you must be foaming at the cooter. btw you don't scare me slutcake. ;)
@soccerbabey You're really immature. I just skimmed through your paragraph about nothing. LOL xD I have no STD's lol. Wow "slutcake" are you serious?? How immature can a person be?? haha. OH and anyone can kick someone's ass without being angry. I can laugh at your stupidity while I do it:)
@missbabydollbuck I'm immature? Your a twenty-something year old that doesn't have general knowledge! My paragraph was about nothing? You are ramming so many contradictions up your ass that you are appearing to be more and more pathetic. 'Shut the fuck up'? I can see a really intelligent person saying that! I must be so stupid that I speak in full sentences that make sense. You should really look into the usefulness of commas, semi-colons, etcetera.
@missbabydollbuck Oh really? You act more like you are prepubescent in the way you desperately try to counterattack the points I'm making. Two children at eighteen? Wow, mom and dad clearly didn't do a good job; for the fact that you are still not TRYING to make yourself sound smarter. Me and everyone else can't take you seriously when you don't spell out okay with just a lazy "K". It isn't that hard! Wait, maybe it is for someone that probably doesn't know how to do her own laundry.
@soccerbabey LOL. Everyone write "OK" when they're typing/talking to someone on the pc you idiot. Get up to date:)
Oh and by the way. My dad died and my mom is a stupid slut that I don't give a fuck about so you can insult them all you want.
I live on my own and do my own laundry and pay my own bills unlike you who probably doesn't know how to wash a dish and relies on mommy and daddy for everrrrrrrrrrrything.
@missbabydollbuck Okay, then! I guess you aren't going to stop spelling like a nitwit! Yup let me unjam my telegraph machine because I'm so 'not up to date' that I access Youtube.
You must support yourself by social benefits and food stamps then! And picking up a shirt from the floor doesn't count as laundry, bimbo.
@missbabydollbuck I'm not making you mad. REALLY? ANOTHER contradiction! At the end why would you say that you would "kick" my ass? Surely, people don't beat others up without being angry at them!
if people were so against abortion there would be safe clinics to have if safely done. Because people want to make it illegal bad things happen to women
one question: what about late term abortions? You know, i believe abortion should be legal to an extent, to the point where the fetus is barely developing, but if it is late term or at the point where the woman is pretty much going through labor, (note:she had 9 months to make her choice) then they shouldnt have the right for LATE term abortions.
so i dont know, i am morally against it, but if ALL abortion is made ILLEGAL, then there will be chaos
@appleman1324 against it as a choice i will not choose for my wife to do. the "chaos" is the fact that women will do self abortions if there are no clinics. I heard of how women would do such things, and many women kill themselves when they do abortion with hangars and tissues.
Dont try to say that late term abortions aren't any different, just to keep your conscience clean because the child might bear a slight resemblance to you at that point. You're either for it or against it! People like you are what's wrong with this country, wont take a stand for anything. You want to pass legislature left and right because you don't want to step up and take action. I think you might be a communist. And for the record, I support abortion!
Quote from somewhere else "Do you think that jamming a pair of scissors through the skull of a baby and sucking its brains out with a vacuum an ethical practice?"
Why so much confusion. If a girls rights are about destroying the life of an unborn baby, then what about the rights of the unborn, what of their rights. If it is okay to end the life inside how is it less okay than outside!? Perhaps parents should have the right to end the life of their aged children given this absurd logic!!!?
@quidproquo2004 you know your momma and i did the dirty dirty two weeks ago, and we just found out that your gonna have another sibling, cause we choose life! boo abortion!! (your momma agrees)
@TheJameySuede Just curious here. When you say vegetarian, does that mean you're also for animal rights? I'm just asking for a clarification. I don't know if vegetarianism is becoming a new term for animal rightists. If you are pro abortion and animal rights, I agree completely.
@vgman94 Not sure if this is a logic trap or not?, so I'll go ahead and answer both ways, I can't see how you could be vegetarian and not be for animal rights? That's an odd question to me.And if this is a veiled attack, Yes I do care more about animals than I do about humans, but really, its both on a fairly low level.
@TheJameySuede Uh, no. It wasn't a logic trap. I was just curious as it seems a lot of people are vegetarian for other reasons, but not animal rights. And LOL at the last sentence.
From the Elliott Institute,it mentions that their is no cause of death that states abortion.Even though the cause of hemorrhage,shock,were due to the abortion.But the coroner will list death by hemorrhage,not abortion.The cover Up-Why US Abortion Mortality Statistics are meaningless by David C.Reardon PhD.Reardon believes that AB provid.are collaborating with Pop.control zealots to conceal risks of AB to advance their own financial & social engineering agendas.Follow the money trail!
and im sure if the woman dies of a hemorrhage in labor, they will also list hemorrhage. doesnt matter. there is no cover up, and its not about money. young women or girls can have afford abortions without ever consulting their parents--thats how inexpensive abortion is. you are morally opposed to abortion and so, will make anything up or grasp at any straw to validate a view you would have regardless of facts.
@Pelonetillo I agree with you I'm intelligent, but NOT devious.So I don't have the capacity or the desire to make anything up.I'm interested in TRUTH.I directed you to Life Dynamics who uncovered rhe CDC cover up on under reported complicationrom abortion, and the ties to the abortion industry.AB Industry profits from the LIES.Pro Life Organizations are non profit organizations that do not make money.The only incentive is for TRUTH.
i didnt say you were intelligent. if you were genuinely interested in the truth, you wouldnt be pulling information from obviously biased, outdated, illogical sources. after the first three things you lead me to turned out to be bogus, i decided it was a waste of time to keep reading the material you suggested. i wouldnt say youre devious, just very misguided--but this is common with antiabortionists.
@Pelonetillo No, you have no objectivity, No amount of proof will you accept, because you would much rather keep up the LIE of abortion.I will take it that you think I'm intelligent,being you think I could cook such fantastic facts such as I've voluminously presented to you.You've provided no proof of your own to legitimatize anything you've said.Wheres your proof.
lol, you dont have any proof. you are incapable of identifying proof. the only person clinging to lies is you. no, i dont think youre intelligent. what do i have to prove? i dont care if people have abortions or have kids. i see no good reason to stop people from having abortions; random correlations and outdated, incorrect information (which is all youve managed to provide) are not good reasons to force a childbirth on a woman.
@Pelonetillo You provide none of your own, and you tell me this.You are just blowing lots of hot air.I saw what you wrote to the individual on the Silent Scream Video, that you said was "just propaganda".Obviously your Not into the TRUTH, I've said my peace and you all have a nice life.And thank your mother for her wisdom in giving birth to you.It seems she at least got it rightGod Bless You, I will pray for your wisdom.Bye!
what do i need to justify? im not telling people what to do. im not into truth because i think the silent scream is propaganda? lol. i would try to explain why thats illogical, but you wouldnt even understand, sadly. yes, pray, pray, pray--im sure itll make a difference!
@Pelonetillo If an abortionist can see the light, their is potential for you too.I will say a Novena for you.What do you need to justify, we'll if you think I'm wrong, its up to you to prove it.Whech you haven't done, all you said was you didn't believe the sighted examples.I gave you LOTS of data.I'm finished, if you don't want to produce that your right.But you have NOT contoured anything that I've stated, so that being said with your own studies.
depends on what youre wrong about. im not saying youre wrong for not wanting to have an abortion--thats your business--but if youre saying its wrong for anyone to have an abortion, then it is you who must prove it. youre categorically opposed to abortion; not just for yourself. im not categorically opposed to anything here; if you want a child, have one, if you want an abortion, have one. aside from the fact that abortion being deadlier is a lie, i know that isnt even why you oppose abortion.
There is much documented proof that abortion hurts women.Society put it's head in the sand,ignoring how harmful abortion is to women over the yrs.It has killed her maternal spirit,and replaced it with a callousness.Who would not try to save someone from on coming train,knowing if you didn't try she would surely die.Abortion is that speeding train that about to destroy the women.We as a society have suffered,it threatens our survival, because of the potential loss of talent.Wheres the compassion?
Idisagree; David Reardon PhD"Ignoring facts,abortion supporters claim that abortion is safer than childbirth.However a recent Gov't study in Finland shows woman who abort are 4times more likely to die in the following years than woman who carry their preg. to term.This proves beyond a show of doublt that abortion is Not safer than childbirth".Reardon believes that abortion providers are collaborating with population zealots to conceal the risk of abortion in order their own financial agenda.
If it is not murder if you kill an embryo, why then if someone murders a pregnant lady is the person charged with TWO murders?
bob75ify 2 days ago
Abortion is a form of death to complex cell division and life, I will not argue that. However I don't see anyone boycotting 'mouse traps', Ive never once seen someone shed a tear over a can of pesticide or weed killer. Infact, Nato spends trillions of OUR taxes to bomb "fundamentalists" in far away lands&Ive hardly heard a peep about it. What constitutes as life? A potential form of life? Because less than 20 minutes ago I stomped out a scary wolfspider and I know I'll sleep better tonight
TheRenho3k 2 months ago
@chambersgirl92 sorry, I actually care about others, so I will be against murdering the unborn
sonic10158 2 months ago
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sonic10158 2 months ago
Here is the logical problem, unless you can prove the embyro is not human:
1) The embryo is a human being and you know it -- and you kill the embryo -- MURDER
2) The embryo is a human being and you don't know it -- and you kill the embryo -- MANSLAUGHTER
3) The embryo is not a human being and you don't know it -- and you kill the embryo -- CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE
patientthomist 3 months ago
@patientthomist labeling something as murder or manslaughter doesn't make it bad
just because something sounds bad doesnt mean it is if you think about it logically
smwExpert 3 months ago
@smwExpert
Your last post could be recited word for word by NAZIS during the Holocaust. Think about it.
patientthomist 3 months ago
@patientthomist god damnit, you really underestimate how much ive thought about this, just like everyone else
there's a difference with the nazis - they fucking tortured and people and killed people with families and all that shit. there's a big difference with abortion - there's no pain involved, and no one is emotionally attached to the fetus which is "killed"
smwExpert 3 months ago
@smwExpert
Are you saying it's worse to snuff out human life at 20 or 30 years of age than at 20 or 30 days of age? There's no pain involved? Really? What about the pain caused to the little person who never gets to experience ANYTHING outside the womb? What about the suppressed pain that most women feel who get abortions? Not emotionally attached? Get real -- ask the women at Project Rachel and other such groups if they feel emotional attachment to their aborted child.
patientthomist 3 months ago
@patientthomist but what's the alternative? they bring the child into a life of poverty or a broken home or into a house with no parents ever around? you should be the one asking yourself "what about the child"
smwExpert 3 months ago
@smwExpert
I feel for what your saying. Our communities MUST do more to support women. MUST. MUST. Nevertheless, poverty and broken homes, although a guaranteed struggle, are not reason enough to terminate human life. My sister was adopted, and abortion was an option. Our home was a good home, but even if it wasn't that good, I know she would not have preferred to be aborted. Let's survey the ones who struggle through poverty .. let's ask them if they preferred to live!
patientthomist 3 months ago
i agree with you there are a lot of medical reason for it to be legal and i wish people would let it go
Inferno6660 4 months ago
You're pro-abortion?
Abortion isn't pro-you.
TheHardout2005 4 months ago
2samuel 12:15-18 (god kills an innocent baby)
Yahweigh 4 months ago
People don't take the time to plan out scenarios of why some girls may want an abortion. I believe the woman should have her right to choose for an abortion or not.
meerkatman22 5 months ago
I myself never thought they were her friends. They called her a baby killer and a monster....I cannot believe that Christians would say such things! What did they want my mother to bleed to death on the operating table?! I am Pro-Life BUT I'm also Pro-choice because there are times when it is NEEDED.
Eternalsummersong 5 months ago
@Eternalsummersong There are a billion and one stories like yours told by pro-lifers to try and involve emotion in the issue. The ONLY reason you have to be pro-life is religious. Abortion gives women rights over their own bodies, something christianity cant stand for. Im an atheist, so your religious arguments dont mean shit. Do you have any logical arguments to test out?
TheCaptainLulz 5 months ago
@TheCaptainLulz: I'm caught between pro-life and pro-choice. My mother did have a tubal pregnancy she did almost die and her christian pro-life friends attacked her. Also did I say I was Christian? I don't believe so. What a woman does with her body is her choice. They should know how to protect themselves from getting pregnant and STD's. And I don't care that you're an atheist woop-de-fucking-doo. I don't give a shit if you believe me. Good day. ^_^
Eternalsummersong 5 months ago
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Funkeychikenwooohooo 5 months ago
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Funkeychikenwooohooo 5 months ago
@TheCaptainLulz: And there are many that are true. How do you know she is lying? Because she isn't. I've talked to this young lady and she has a LOT of problems from being abused. She even told me she wished they aborted her. She has problems that you know nothing about. Tubal pregnancies are real it is actually called an Ectopic pregnancy and I will explain what it is. cont....
Funkeychikenwooohooo 5 months ago
@TheCaptainLulz: An ectopic pregnancy, or eccysis , is a complication of pregnancy in which the embryo implants outside the uterine cavity. With rare exceptions, ectopic pregnancies are not viable. Furthermore, they are dangerous for the mother, internal haemorrhage being a life threatening complication. Most ectopic pregnancies occur in the Fallopian tube (so-called tubal pregnancies), but implantation can also occur in the cervix, ovaries, and abdomen. cont.....
Funkeychikenwooohooo 5 months ago
@TheCaptainLulz: In a normal pregnancy, the fertilized egg enters the uterus and settles into the uterine lining where it has plenty of room to divide and grow. About 1% of pregnancies are in an ectopic location with implantation not occurring inside of the womb, and of these 98% occur in the Fallopian tubes. Detection of ectopic pregnancy in early gestation has been achieved mainly due to enhanced diagnostic capability. cont...
Funkeychikenwooohooo 5 months ago
@TheCaptainLulz: Despite all these notable successes in diagnostics and detection techniques ectopic pregnancy remains a source of serious maternal morbidity and mortality worldwide, especially in countries with poor prenatal care. In a typical ectopic pregnancy, the embryo adheres to the lining of the fallopian tube and burrows into the tubal lining. Most commonly this invades vessels and will cause bleeding. cont....
Funkeychikenwooohooo 5 months ago
@TheCaptainLulz: This intratubal bleeding hematosalpinx expels the implantation out of the tubal end as a tubal abortion. Tubal abortion is a common type of miscarriage. There is no inflammation of the tube in ectopic pregnancy. The pain is caused by prostaglandins released at the implantation site, and by free blood in the peritoneal cavity, which is a local irritant. cont...
Funkeychikenwooohooo 5 months ago
@TheCaptainLulz: Sometimes the bleeding might be heavy enough to threaten the health or life of the woman. Usually this degree of bleeding is due to delay in diagnosis, but sometimes, especially if the implantation is in the proximal tube (just before it enters the uterus), it may invade into the nearby Sampson artery, causing heavy bleeding earlier than usual.
Funkeychikenwooohooo 5 months ago
@TheCaptainLulz: If left untreated, about half of ectopic pregnancies will resolve without treatment. These are the tubal abortions. The advent of methotrexate treatment for ectopic pregnancy has reduced the need for surgery; however, surgical intervention is still required in cases where the Fallopian tube has ruptured or is in danger of doing so. This intervention may be laparoscopic or through a larger incision, known as a laparotomy.
Funkeychikenwooohooo 5 months ago
@TheCaptainLulz: Please stop picking apart peoples own personal stories because you have a problem with religion. The thing you said to her were rude,cold and just plain childish. Shams on you and I don't GIVE a damn if you ARE an Atheist have a little more sympathy. I've hear Atheists have good morals....you lack them.
Funkeychikenwooohooo 5 months ago
@Funkeychikenwooohooo NO. I dont dive the first 2 shits if you are offended. This is the internet, there are plenty of people who would have been ALOT harder on her. And still not a 1 logical argument.
TheCaptainLulz 5 months ago
@TheCaptainLulz: And there are a LOT of people who would be a LOT harder on you. I'm a nurse I've seen people die on the operating table from an Ectopic pregnancy. This young woman knows a LOT about problems concerning pregnancies she also leans toward science more then the bible. I've talked to this young lady she is pro-choice for the right reasons. So stop bitching at her you make us pro-choicers look like idiots. Do us a favor and grow up along with the others who would be harder on her.
Funkeychikenwooohooo 5 months ago
@TheCaptainLulz: And I'm done with this conversation Captainputz. Yes you're a putz and a jerk. Come back in about ten years when you've grown up and then I'll take you seriously. And I'm not a bit mad I just think you're an idiot for attacking random people.
Funkeychikenwooohooo 5 months ago
@TheCaptainLulz: Yes angry, bitter, hateful people like you actually end up hurting people like her who actually tells the truth in regards to her own mom. I know her on here and on FB and I know her mom on FB as well and yes her mother had a tubal pregnancy and had to abort it. She did tell the truth. Also her mother is pro-choice even though the only abortion she had was the tubal. You make decent people who are pro-choice look like whining,bitching brats. Congrats you are an ass sir.
AtelierRoronagirl 5 months ago
@TheCaptainLulz: Oh and before you open you mouth and insert your foot I'm pro-choice. And Christian so I just blew your mind. Not ALL Christians are pro-life. -_-
AtelierRoronagirl 5 months ago
And yes I'm pro life. BUT my mother when she got herself off of beer and drugs....she got pregnant. She was so excited! I think two month in she didn't feel well and stated bleeding no not normally I mean BLEEDING a puddle of blood! My grandad, uncle and stepdad (he was also clean now) took her to the hospital they said she had an Ectopic pregnancy the baby was in the tube and it burst. They had to abort the baby and fix the tube. My mother was crushed. Her pro-life friends attacked her. Cont..
Eternalsummersong 5 months ago
"Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great. When a sperm is wasted, God gets so irate."
79barkingspider 6 months ago
I hate my mom for not aborting me when she had the chance
mystery8881 6 months ago
@mystery8881 Well, in my particular situation, my mom was lonely and she changed her tune (used to be against it) about abortion when I told her she should have aborted me. But I can't hate her for it. I mean I do wish to just never have been in this world, but I can't hate her for what she did.
vgman94 5 months ago
@vgman94: I told my mom the same thing "why didn't you abort me."
My mom: Because I wanted you even though you were not planned I love you!!! Your daddy wanted and loved you as well (my father died a few months after I was born and my leg was broken my mom was thrown out of the car and had pretty bad head injuries.) My mother after she got with my stepfather became mean and abusive (she was drunk almost all the time) my stepfather was also abusive he almost beat me to death. cont..
Eternalsummersong 5 months ago
@vgman94: Actually there wasn't a time I didn't have bruises and lumps on my head and bald spots where my mother pulled my hair out....I remember him telling me that God hated me. I was blamed for their troubles, I was blamed for their fights (which were violent) I had burns where she burnt me with her cigarettes. After he beat me to the point I couldn't walk or sit and I had trouble breathing (I was 9) I had Bruises EVERYWHERE even down there some were purple others were black..cont...
Eternalsummersong 5 months ago
@vgman94: My grandma took me in it was touch and go for a while every time she moved her hand I thought she was going to hit me. It took me a full year to completely trust her and my Grandad. I started to call her my mother because she took care of me kept me feed made sure I had clothes and a nice big bed. Lol! She spoiled me. My mom through all my child and teenage years was always drunk. And she just started getting sober now. I don't know her. Cont..
Eternalsummersong 5 months ago
@vgman94: That's why I asked the question. Because my mother chose beer over not only me but my sister as well. And she beat me as did my step father that may be the beer talking but it makes me wander if she really wanted to beat me and the beer made her lose her inhibitions so she could do so.
Eternalsummersong 5 months ago
@Eternalsummersong Wow. You should talk to people at school and get people alerted to your situation. What she's doing isn't legal. This isn't right. Possibly. She certainly isn't qualified to be a mother if her true wishes would be to hurt you. Being drunk shows people's true personalities and instincts, which means she isn't a nice person at heart.
vgman94 5 months ago
@vgman94: I'm an adult now. But they did get into trouble my grandparents took me in a became my Guardians. My was a drunk she was on drugs addicted to sex ( lets just say I was taught the birds and the bees at five) But I'm okay now. My mother is getting her life together and she's trying to reconnect with both my sister and I.
Eternalsummersong 5 months ago
@Eternalsummersong Good. At least things have become better for you. How have you and your sister taken to your mom's attempts to connect?
vgman94 5 months ago
@vgman94: Actually we want to connect. She is our mom....even though she did a lot of bad things I still love her. She is in rehab right now though. And she in Alcoholics Anonymous. I'm glad she getting herself together. She's a whole different person from what she was.
Eternalsummersong 5 months ago
@Eternalsummersong Hopefully she'll remain a civilized person from now on.
vgman94 5 months ago
@vgman94: I hope so too. She did put her latest husband in prison for hitting her the head with a hammer. She almost died. But she pulled through and she has trouble talking. When she's sober she is really fun to be around.
Eternalsummersong 5 months ago
Flashqueen learn biology ovums and embryos are not the same thing -
An Embryo has all the information as a developing human being 50 50 from father and mother -
The arguments on this video are weak and contradictory
moniquitaflores 6 months ago
Honestly, I agree with oneandonlyhypnos, I am pro abortion.
GeneralRem 6 months ago
'Blindly worship life'
Sounds like a compliment; Course I think life should be lived to the fullest and that everyone is entitled to life, I don't get how unwanted kids lives are any less valuable..?
SiriusSurvives 6 months ago
There's no legit reason to have an abortion. If the fetus is sick it can get better by medicine after birth. It is safer to go full term than to have an abortion and in most cases cheaper.
AwesomeCoosa 6 months ago
I agree completely!! My 3 month old daughter is an "inconvenience" to me. Seeing as I and my family are clearly irrelevant, I think I'll take her out back and and take her head off with a hand axe! Your should've seen your severe retardation and killed you. Fuck stupid people
777INRI777 6 months ago
What matters is that it will come to be a person just like you or anyone. If you kill it, it wont. Now who can dispute something as logical as that?
YZ450f24 6 months ago
@YZ450f24 If you don't get pregnant then it won't be a person either. Every single ovum is a potential human. 50% of embryos expell from the body naturally. If you are not bothered by the fact that 50% "embryos" expell naturally then why are you bothered by an early term abortion. The results are the same. And if you say the person shouldn't get pregnant, well then there is no life in that case either.
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fannythegranny1 6 months ago
Watch an abortion, then we'll see if youre still pro....
Fubeli 7 months ago
unless the people saying ab. is bad going to take care for all the babys that are being aborted. they have no right to say its bad .
ChristieGirl151 7 months ago
Really?? ALL OF YOU THAT ARE FOR ABIRTION ARE IDIOTS. IF YOU CANT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR LAYING ON YOUR BACK THAN USE A DAMN CONDOM IR BIRTH CONTROL!!! FUCCIN IDIOTS
piinkciinny01 7 months ago
@piinkciinny01 What if a 13-year-old girl was raped. The rapist did not use a condom, and the girl did not know anything about birth control. She did not tell anyone because she was scared the rapist might found out. Then I don't see why she has to give birth to that baby. The embry CAN NOT feel anything in an early abortion, but the girl surely can if she is forced to give birth. Prioritise.
TheA3501000 6 months ago
Chicken fetuses dont have feelings yet you still oppose eating them. If you had no nerve endings would it be alright to kill you because you dont feel? If someone is in great pain there is medicine for that. Things happen and people can escape pain without killing themself. They cant escape death once they are dead. Personal decisions can only go so far. Everything can be a personal decision. Thats why there are laws
lifesquixotic 7 months ago
themselves. Why not just give the baby up for adoption. At least they can have babies unlike some women who wish they could.I'm glad my mother didn't abort me (if she even though of doing it). Don't women who abort think the same thing?
lolasorocks10 8 months ago
I am definitely anti abortion. I am a female and I can get pregnant. I am also Catholic but I won't let my beliefs get in the way of my comment for those of you who don't share the same beliefs as me. Embryo=Life and Fetus=Life so having an abortion on an embryo and fetus is the same thing in my eyes. I consider women who get abortions as murderers. Killing a human life is murder. It is not right to chose when someone dies. I think those women take advantage that babies can't speak or think for
lolasorocks10 8 months ago 5
@lolasorocks10 "You consider women who have abortions murders" Ok. I consider Christians who force children into existence against their will as sadists. If you believe that every person has a potential of an eternity of torture in hell and you force them into existence then you are complicent in the crime.
Fishqueen1972 6 months ago
@Fishqueen1972 Everyone forces kids into existence not just Christians dumbshit.
lolasorocks10 1 week ago
@lolasorocks10 Yes, but it is only Christians who believe their children could possibly face an eternity of torture, dumbshit.
Fishqueen1972 4 days ago
@lolasorocks10 How about women who use protection ... They also kill a lot lives... semen is full of little guys. It is as much as alive and human then a 1 week foetus. How about those women who use protection ? They kill the opportunity to create life. The life wants to grow, but she kills it right at the beginning. She also a murderer ?
aegisknox 5 months ago 5
@aegisknox Are you a fucking retard? Women don't kill sperm. Sperm isnt even life until it fertilizes an egg. Killing an OPPORTUNITY is better than killing a BABY. And even if it's considered 'killing' the man would be 'killing the sperm too.
lolasorocks10 1 week ago
@aegisknox Also if you consider using a condom 'killing' sperm than masterbating is killing too? Exactly dumb fuck. Fuck off.
lolasorocks10 1 week ago
@aegisknox if semen is a bunch of little guys then I murder millions of people every day
bunghole211 5 days ago
@lolasorocks10, Thank you. If the girl didn't want to have the baby, she shouldn't have had sex or she should have took precautions cause last time I checked birth control, condoms, female condoms, etc. were all pretty damn effective.
Skullz930 5 months ago
@lolasorocks10 Are you eating flesh?
If thats the case you should consider stopping. Because then you support the killing of cows, pigs, sheeps etc. A 10-12 week old child is not capable of thinking higher then a cow. Humans first begin to get conscious when they are arround 16-18 weeks in the mothers belly. Sometimes it akes 20-24 weeks...
As long as you eat cow, pig and sheep, you support me.
VictumRoManius 2 months ago 3
@VictumRoManius Your analogy is horrid.
xFightingFalcon 3 weeks ago
@xFightingFalcon No it's not. A 12 week old fetus has not even conciousnes.
A cow has at least a developed brain. Humans first get brain activity when they are between 22-26 weeks old in the mothers belly.
If you call that murder you should consider to call masturbation murder to. Because when you masturbate, you kill tens of thousands of your possible kids you could have had.
VictumRoManius 3 weeks ago
@VictumRoManius If they outcome of masturbating was the same as having sexual intercourse with a woman, then women wouldn't be going through the hassle of carrying a fetus in their stomach for nine months.
xFightingFalcon 3 weeks ago
@VictumRoManius Personally I can not compare a cows life to that of a human's. A full grown cow may have a developed brain, which it obviously should. However a developing child would obviously still be developing. Human beings are the only form of intelligent life on Earth. You won't see a cow inventing anything will you? But that child very well could.
xFightingFalcon 3 weeks ago
@xFightingFalcon Thats exactly the point. That fetus will be an intelligent human being in the future. At the time the abortion is caried out, the child has no brain activity. If you masturbate, you kill thousands of human beings who MAY had done something important in human history. We cannot let thoughts about the future controll our lifes here and now. Usually woman have a good reason to take abortion.The child MAY become a new Einstein. But the child MAY also become a street thug.
VictumRoManius 3 weeks ago
@VictumRoManius Did the 21 week old baby born in Germany have brain activity?
tazluvpizza 2 weeks ago
@VictumRoManius What the fuck is wrong with you? You think humans and animals are the same thing? Human life is more important that animals. So you'd rather kill your own baby than a chicken? Waste yute.
lolasorocks10 1 week ago
@lolasorocks10 Yes I think that. Only reason I would save a human instead of a dog is because I am a human myself.
As mentioned, a fetus which is not older then some weeks CANNOT think. There is NO brain activity.
If you think people feel with heart, you are wrong to. Emotions also come from brain.
They dont have brain activity and thus they cannot feel or think...
I almost believe that people like you are 5-6 week old fetuses with no brain activity...
VictumRoManius 1 week ago
@lolasorocks10 "It is not right to chose when someone dies".. Therefore society itself is the embodiment of murders. We condemn "someone" to death everyday. Sometimes abortions are necessary. What if a young girl was sexually abused, should she keep that baby when it was not the product of "love and passion between two beings"?... Not saying you're young by believing in "pro-life" but maybe you should think before labelling "pro-abortioners" murderers. You don't know what their reason was..
JesyJaY935 1 week ago
@JesyJaY935 Girls usually get their periods at around 13 so thats when they can get pregnant. I know a girl who got pregnant at 13/14 and she kept her baby. If you KILL a fetus/baby the you are a MURDERER. KILLING human life=MURDER. They don't have a reason to kill a baby. Your'e acting as if the only options are KEEP or KILL the baby. Just because something bad happened to the girl (rape) doesn't mean she has to do something bad to the baby. It wasn't the baby's fault she got raped.
lolasorocks10 1 week ago
@lolasorocks10 So she should keep the baby and go to school with a huge stomach and have to suffer through emotional trauma for the rest of her life? Sure, we're not blaming the baby.. But why give her that responsibility when she doesn't need it in the first place? She could give it up for adoption but she'd STILL have to keep it for 9 months.. The only options ARE keep or discard the fetus. Unless you can think of another option but whatever.. I'm not here to change nobody's mind.
JesyJaY935 6 days ago
@JesyJaY935 Yes she should! The only way I could see that she wouldnt have to is in rape. But if it was her choice to have sex and not us protection, then she should face the consequences.
bob75ify 2 days ago
I am all for abortion I'm pro choice great video
FoxyAngie1000 9 months ago
abortion is like religion, it doesnt fucking matter, and people wont stop fucking talking and bitching about it
babykillerbuttfuck 9 months ago
@babykillerbuttfuck; you sound like an absolute scourge to society!
graysonTW 9 months ago
Again I MUST stress... I am using YOUR logic, not mine.
dobadriver 9 months ago
how come its ok to kill a stalk of brocolli but not a fetus? that brocolli will never grow up to murder anyones whole family but that baby might. i am very pro abortion. it lowers the crime rate. less unwanted children, less crime. its a fact. it happened in new york but rudy took all the credit.
steb413 10 months ago
Abortion is not murder. What gets terminated is a small group of cells without rights or a voice. Its not being denied these rights or voice, it just has no use for them because it is not a separate entity from its host that does have rights and a voice. If your arguement involves god, you lose because god is dead. Or he never lived, hey maybe god IS abortion...
steb413 10 months ago
@steb413 So you're saying killing a mentally handicapped person in a coma isnt murder because they don't have rights or a voice?
lolasorocks10 1 week ago
People are crazy... For some reason, individuals commenting really want to tell this dude how to believe... If he is for abortion, he is for it... The logic in the defense of pro-lifers is illogical (real word?) Benjamin Wirtz compared an actual human being to a fetus... A fetus is just a mass of cells that cannot live outside of the womb, that's why there are limits... But you all don't look at that because you're all to filled with ignorance, intolerance, and the inability to actually think!
RoxiiYolii 10 months ago
@RoxiiYolii
If my brother was aborted he would have never existed. I would have been born after and therefore never have know him. It doesn't matter if it's a group of cells, it's what those sells have the potential to be. This is a future human with every right to life but it's taken away because some people wanted to screw without thinking about the consequences. I know exactly what it is and it's peoples lack of responsibilty that leads them to believe its abortion is right.
dobadriver 10 months ago
@dobadriver
Do you know that as much as 25% of pregnancies end in miscarriages anyway... Do you know that their are so many unwanted children that are brought into this world, who are abused... Do you know that the world is already overpopulated... Do you know that you don't have the right to tell some one what to do with their body... Do you know that you haven't got the right to tell someone what to feel... I'm just sayin'... Please don't respond to this... Thanks...
RoxiiYolii 10 months ago
@RoxiiYolii
It's peoples lack of responsibility that leads people to believe abortion is right. If you don't want children there are procedures you can take to prevent that. So if someone i know is shoving a needle full of heroine into their arm I have no right telling them not to do it according to your logic? There are a lot of people that are abused that grow up to be fine people. I was abused and told I wasn't wanted and I'm glad I'm alive. Just sayin... please don't respond to this..thnx
dobadriver 9 months ago
Wow... Really... Someone having an abortion is different from a heroine addict... Grow up... Address the issues... Abortion is the for the person who is pregnant to decide... There are regulations that are in place so that it is not done at an inhumane time... I'd ask you not to respond again, but I can see by your logic that you must be a teenager, or at least you act like one... I could be rude but I won't, just do the world a favor and drop your holier than thou attitude...
RoxiiYolii 9 months ago
@RoxiiYolii
What are you talking about? You're the one calling people crazy. You're saying I'm ignorant and intolerant because I don't believe abortion is right? You say the world is overpopulated... wrong, you say that it's okay because these kids will be abused( so basically it's better for them to not live anyway?) wrong again. I never told anyone what to do with their body. I'd just hope after getting an abortion they take proper procedures to sterilize themselves.
dobadriver 9 months ago
@dobadriver
Hi IGNORAMOUS... Do you know that by the year 2050 the earth, as a whole, is going to have to find a completely different means to feed the population because the population boom is too great for it to sustain... Yes RETARD, it is much better, look at the Nix case, this child was eventually killed from YEARS of abuse, not months... And in saying to get sterilized, you are in fact telling someone what to do with their body... ANYTHING ELSE YOU BUFFOON...
RoxiiYolii 9 months ago
@RoxiiYolii
What have I said that gives me a holier than thous attitude? You made ludicrous comments then tell me not to respond lol, that's just stupid. You are the one that needs to address the issue. You can also see that I'm questioning your logic, of course heroine and abortion is different but in the end, according to your logic, nobody has the right to tell them what to do so If someone wants to abort, let them. And if someone wants to do heroine, let them, pro choice right?
dobadriver 9 months ago
@dobadriver
By the by... Are you just stupid for no reason... First, let's play a game called spell check when we post... Second, grab a dictionary, because it may do you some good... Third and finally, were you ever dropped on your head as a child, because I am curious now...
RoxiiYolii 9 months ago
@RoxiiYolii
You have some serious psychotic issues. You said the earth was over populated, it is not, it will in the future but as of now it is not overpopulated. So therefore you were wrong. I said i would hope people would get sterilized, i never said they had to. Saying abortion is right because kids get abused is stupid. Many children that get abused are wanted, they are abused because the parents have issues with themselves, not just because they didn't want a kid.
dobadriver 9 months ago
@dobadriver THE EARTH IS NOT OVERPOPULATED LMFAO!!!!!! Did you really made that statement?
DannyCreator91 9 months ago
@DannyCreator91
Um, it's not. Yes, there are countries that are but that doesn't make abortion right. I live in Canada, you are not gonna sit there and tell me my country is overpopulated. IF the worlds resources were spread evenly we could accommodate everyone. The population curve is going down, people are having less and less children. You wanna support population countrol then you are opening up a whole new bag of shit that will only cheapen life further.
dobadriver 9 months ago
@dobadriver "The population curve is going down, people are having less and less children."
Just to clarify that... the world's population is still increasing - and fast. What is true however, is that the UN's population data suggests that we might be able to see when the population will peak. Google "UN population estimates" for some serious data here.
Gnomefro 9 months ago
@dobadriver The UN low reproduction estimate will peaks in the mid 2030s somewhat over 7 billion. The Mid estimate approaches stability a bit after 2050 around 9 billion. The high estimate does not stabilize within a reasonable time frame and is around 10-11ish billion at 2050.
Gnomefro 9 months ago
@Gnomefro
And abortion is all about population control? If it sucks to be born poor then why don't we just do some population control, go around and kill every poor person on this planet. That way if you can't pay your bills you are killed. There will be enough jobs for people that wanna work and countries will not have to waste money on poor places like Haiti and so on. If abortion is right due to overpopulation then lets take the next step and eliminate the poor...... wooh
dobadriver 9 months ago
@dobadriver Spreading the world's resources evenly is both a pipe dream and a ridiculous notion of fairness that ignores property rights and rights to own production while setting up a new principle that implies that having as many children as possible is the best way to increase wealth in developing countries.
Sorry, that's a recipe for disaster. Population control wins hands down. The fair way to do it is to make sure each country is held responsible for feeding its own population.
Gnomefro 9 months ago
@RoxiiYolii
I can tell your argument is weak. You are responding in anger which is connected to fear. You know the holes in your logic and you can't have a nice civil talk with me on here without calling me names. You are also really funny and I wish for you to keep responding. You are actually attacking my spelling meanwhile you can't even use the words " there and their " properly. I didn't know that spelling was such an important topic to discuss when speaking of abortion. You are a clown.
dobadriver 9 months ago
@dobadriver ... This is not anger, but frustration...You are part of the special breed of people...Okay, I see... What's cool is that the more replies I get from you, the more idiotic you appear... Which only means that I was correct in my presumption of you originally...There is nothing in any statement I made that is false, look it up on line if you have to, but you won't because that is the type of person that you are...Congratulations!!! Pssst, you should reread this entire conversation...
RoxiiYolii 9 months ago
@RoxiiYolii
lol, keep talking. I find you pretty comical.
dobadriver 9 months ago
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@RoxiiYolii
lol, keep talking. I find you pretty comical.
dobadriver 9 months ago
So then by your logic, someone who is completely paralyzed, say like Stephen Hawking, except they also are severly mentally handicapped and so are not self aware. They have no right to life because they can't feel and are not self aware, according to your logic
BenjaminWirtz 10 months ago
if your pro abortion then why dont you get a girl and get her pregnant and abort it. You think its a good thing then go fucking do it you hypocrit.
CurlyFries120 10 months ago
You do understand that there is a difference between being Pro-choice and being Pro-abortion, right?
lucasboden 10 months ago
Watch an ultrasonic abortion. It is just a cruel if not more than slaughtering cows.
lucasboden 10 months ago
0:20-0:44 It's ok aslong as they don't feel. Oooh I see, so it's alright for me to murder someone as long as I knock them out cold in a painless way first. Well in that case I think I'll head down to the coma ward of my local hospital and have a little shooting spree, just for fun. After all, none of them can feel it can they?
lizzyluv96 10 months ago
amen :) i agree 100%
peacefromvermont 10 months ago
"To me the fact that it feels is morally relevant, regardless of whether it is a human or another animal. So, an embryo that doesn't feel has no moral relevance whatsoever if we look at it logically. It only becomes relevant once it feels. Vegetarians don't blindy worship 'life'. So as long as it doesn't feel we can't do anything wrong to it, so abortion is ok."
Why is killing an embryo only morally relevent once it feels? Is killing ok as long as the thing killed does not feel it?
funkymonkeytheist 10 months ago
Unbelievable, I am wondering if the person talking in the video with such a arguments is a human. So sad to see all the stupid excuses that are used to cover a criminal act as the abortion is. Well each person live according to their conscience. we cannot teach the world to have ethic in their files.
danielitaiyta 11 months ago
@danielitaiyta Just because it is legal people assume that is a right and just thing. Some people make it sound almost noble when it indeed is NOT. There is no justification to kill their developing flesh and blood just as a means of birth control. If it is used for the right reasons (such as the mother's health is at risk) than abortion (really early on) is necessary.
soccerbabey 11 months ago
I had an abortion not too long ago due to some circumstances. Abortion is not bad nor evil. You're absolutely right, it is a PERSONAL CHOICE AND NOT A LEGAL DEBATE. You don't know what you would do until you're in that situation. So cram it you anti abortion cock suckers!!
missbabydollbuck 11 months ago
@missbabydollbuck It wasn't bad or evil to you because you knew you could get back to your promiscuity and you were able to erase your responsibility. If it was a risk to your health it wasn't bad or evil. But if you did it just as a means of birth control, I pity you. I really do.
You are the mother of a dead child.
R.I.P. missbabydollbuck's child.
soccerbabey 11 months ago
@soccerbabey Shut the fuck up. you aren't making my mad and the child wasn't developed dumbass. LOL xD. Being that it makes you so upset, i'll make sure I send you a video.
Im a mother of one child. The other one wasn't even a human being.
Thank you. Oh and btw. If you ever said that shit to my face, which you wouldn't.......so many ppl including me would kick your ass:)
missbabydollbuck 11 months ago
@missbabydollbuck You said "the child wasn't developed" and you used the word child! you are contradicting your whole argument you stupid girl! People like you shouldn't HAVE children in the first place. I'm sure being on welfare doesn't heighten your trailer trash standards because you probably spend your money on booze and drugs. Like I said I pity you for being a half brained petri dish of sexually transmitted diseases. you must be foaming at the cooter. btw you don't scare me slutcake. ;)
soccerbabey 11 months ago
@soccerbabey You're really immature. I just skimmed through your paragraph about nothing. LOL xD I have no STD's lol. Wow "slutcake" are you serious?? How immature can a person be?? haha. OH and anyone can kick someone's ass without being angry. I can laugh at your stupidity while I do it:)
missbabydollbuck 10 months ago
@missbabydollbuck I'm immature? Your a twenty-something year old that doesn't have general knowledge! My paragraph was about nothing? You are ramming so many contradictions up your ass that you are appearing to be more and more pathetic. 'Shut the fuck up'? I can see a really intelligent person saying that! I must be so stupid that I speak in full sentences that make sense. You should really look into the usefulness of commas, semi-colons, etcetera.
soccerbabey 10 months ago
@soccerbabey I'm not 20 something you idiot. LOL Know the facts K? K.
I love how ppl try to tell someone off and have no idea what they're talking about. I'm 18.
Oh and I do use many punctuation marks. What are you like a 13 yr old kid trying to get attention?? Please don't embarrass yourself anymore, or do:)
missbabydollbuck 10 months ago
@missbabydollbuck Oh really? You act more like you are prepubescent in the way you desperately try to counterattack the points I'm making. Two children at eighteen? Wow, mom and dad clearly didn't do a good job; for the fact that you are still not TRYING to make yourself sound smarter. Me and everyone else can't take you seriously when you don't spell out okay with just a lazy "K". It isn't that hard! Wait, maybe it is for someone that probably doesn't know how to do her own laundry.
soccerbabey 10 months ago
@soccerbabey LOL. Everyone write "OK" when they're typing/talking to someone on the pc you idiot. Get up to date:)
Oh and by the way. My dad died and my mom is a stupid slut that I don't give a fuck about so you can insult them all you want.
I live on my own and do my own laundry and pay my own bills unlike you who probably doesn't know how to wash a dish and relies on mommy and daddy for everrrrrrrrrrrything.
Grow the fuck up:)
Thank you:D
missbabydollbuck 10 months ago
@missbabydollbuck Okay, then! I guess you aren't going to stop spelling like a nitwit! Yup let me unjam my telegraph machine because I'm so 'not up to date' that I access Youtube.
You must support yourself by social benefits and food stamps then! And picking up a shirt from the floor doesn't count as laundry, bimbo.
soccerbabey 10 months ago
@missbabydollbuck I'm not making you mad. REALLY? ANOTHER contradiction! At the end why would you say that you would "kick" my ass? Surely, people don't beat others up without being angry at them!
soccerbabey 11 months ago
@missbabydollbuck LOL You continue to entertain me. Please continue:) This is hilariiiiiiiiiiious:D
missbabydollbuck 10 months ago
Pro abortion and pro choice are not the same.
liverbitz91 11 months ago
if people were so against abortion there would be safe clinics to have if safely done. Because people want to make it illegal bad things happen to women
mkatz2395 1 year ago
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LOL, you decide not to eat a hamburger, now you are smarter than Jesus Christ. You are a joke man.
MrLovelife777 1 year ago
Actually, the baby does feel pain, and even if it didn't, you ruin the chance of a great life!
TheProLifeDude 1 year ago
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@TheProLifeDude says: you ruin the chance of a great life!
~~~~~~~~~~~ You can also prevent a horrid life...so whats your point?
Sueezee1 11 months ago
one question: what about late term abortions? You know, i believe abortion should be legal to an extent, to the point where the fetus is barely developing, but if it is late term or at the point where the woman is pretty much going through labor, (note:she had 9 months to make her choice) then they shouldnt have the right for LATE term abortions.
so i dont know, i am morally against it, but if ALL abortion is made ILLEGAL, then there will be chaos
appleman1324 1 year ago
@appleman1324 against it as a choice i will not choose for my wife to do. the "chaos" is the fact that women will do self abortions if there are no clinics. I heard of how women would do such things, and many women kill themselves when they do abortion with hangars and tissues.
appleman1324 1 year ago
Dont try to say that late term abortions aren't any different, just to keep your conscience clean because the child might bear a slight resemblance to you at that point. You're either for it or against it! People like you are what's wrong with this country, wont take a stand for anything. You want to pass legislature left and right because you don't want to step up and take action. I think you might be a communist. And for the record, I support abortion!
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killedfetus 1 year ago
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Quote from somewhere else "Do you think that jamming a pair of scissors through the skull of a baby and sucking its brains out with a vacuum an ethical practice?"
Why so much confusion. If a girls rights are about destroying the life of an unborn baby, then what about the rights of the unborn, what of their rights. If it is okay to end the life inside how is it less okay than outside!? Perhaps parents should have the right to end the life of their aged children given this absurd logic!!!?
NearDeathExperienc 1 year ago
Pro-abortion? You first!
bugsz1 1 year ago
None of this matters to most pro-lifers. Their "reasoning" comes from their religious faith and is hence, irrational.
quidproquo2004 1 year ago
@quidproquo2004 you know your momma and i did the dirty dirty two weeks ago, and we just found out that your gonna have another sibling, cause we choose life! boo abortion!! (your momma agrees)
MrJettaguy 1 year ago
@MrJettaguy Please show your comment to your English teacher. She might appreciate the challenge of transforming it into something less embarrassing.
quidproquo2004 1 year ago
@MrJettaguy Yes! Congratulations! I think abortion is a horrid thing too
TheProLifeDude 1 year ago
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@TheProLifeDude says: I think abortion is a horrid thing too
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Then dont do it!
Sueezee1 11 months ago
I think its disgusting that pro lifers wouldn't be for animal rights more than anything! that's a war they CAN win!
TheJameySuede 1 year ago
I am Pro Abortion and Vegetarian 15 years, I never even thought of there being a conflict??
TheJameySuede 1 year ago
@TheJameySuede Just curious here. When you say vegetarian, does that mean you're also for animal rights? I'm just asking for a clarification. I don't know if vegetarianism is becoming a new term for animal rightists. If you are pro abortion and animal rights, I agree completely.
vgman94 1 year ago
@vgman94 Not sure if this is a logic trap or not?, so I'll go ahead and answer both ways, I can't see how you could be vegetarian and not be for animal rights? That's an odd question to me.And if this is a veiled attack, Yes I do care more about animals than I do about humans, but really, its both on a fairly low level.
TheJameySuede 1 year ago
@TheJameySuede Uh, no. It wasn't a logic trap. I was just curious as it seems a lot of people are vegetarian for other reasons, but not animal rights. And LOL at the last sentence.
vgman94 1 year ago
From the Elliott Institute,it mentions that their is no cause of death that states abortion.Even though the cause of hemorrhage,shock,were due to the abortion.But the coroner will list death by hemorrhage,not abortion.The cover Up-Why US Abortion Mortality Statistics are meaningless by David C.Reardon PhD.Reardon believes that AB provid.are collaborating with Pop.control zealots to conceal risks of AB to advance their own financial & social engineering agendas.Follow the money trail!
122651Lil 1 year ago
and im sure if the woman dies of a hemorrhage in labor, they will also list hemorrhage. doesnt matter. there is no cover up, and its not about money. young women or girls can have afford abortions without ever consulting their parents--thats how inexpensive abortion is. you are morally opposed to abortion and so, will make anything up or grasp at any straw to validate a view you would have regardless of facts.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo I agree with you I'm intelligent, but NOT devious.So I don't have the capacity or the desire to make anything up.I'm interested in TRUTH.I directed you to Life Dynamics who uncovered rhe CDC cover up on under reported complicationrom abortion, and the ties to the abortion industry.AB Industry profits from the LIES.Pro Life Organizations are non profit organizations that do not make money.The only incentive is for TRUTH.
122651Lil 1 year ago
i didnt say you were intelligent. if you were genuinely interested in the truth, you wouldnt be pulling information from obviously biased, outdated, illogical sources. after the first three things you lead me to turned out to be bogus, i decided it was a waste of time to keep reading the material you suggested. i wouldnt say youre devious, just very misguided--but this is common with antiabortionists.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo No, you have no objectivity, No amount of proof will you accept, because you would much rather keep up the LIE of abortion.I will take it that you think I'm intelligent,being you think I could cook such fantastic facts such as I've voluminously presented to you.You've provided no proof of your own to legitimatize anything you've said.Wheres your proof.
122651Lil 1 year ago
lol, you dont have any proof. you are incapable of identifying proof. the only person clinging to lies is you. no, i dont think youre intelligent. what do i have to prove? i dont care if people have abortions or have kids. i see no good reason to stop people from having abortions; random correlations and outdated, incorrect information (which is all youve managed to provide) are not good reasons to force a childbirth on a woman.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo You provide none of your own, and you tell me this.You are just blowing lots of hot air.I saw what you wrote to the individual on the Silent Scream Video, that you said was "just propaganda".Obviously your Not into the TRUTH, I've said my peace and you all have a nice life.And thank your mother for her wisdom in giving birth to you.It seems she at least got it rightGod Bless You, I will pray for your wisdom.Bye!
122651Lil 1 year ago
what do i need to justify? im not telling people what to do. im not into truth because i think the silent scream is propaganda? lol. i would try to explain why thats illogical, but you wouldnt even understand, sadly. yes, pray, pray, pray--im sure itll make a difference!
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo If an abortionist can see the light, their is potential for you too.I will say a Novena for you.What do you need to justify, we'll if you think I'm wrong, its up to you to prove it.Whech you haven't done, all you said was you didn't believe the sighted examples.I gave you LOTS of data.I'm finished, if you don't want to produce that your right.But you have NOT contoured anything that I've stated, so that being said with your own studies.
122651Lil 1 year ago
depends on what youre wrong about. im not saying youre wrong for not wanting to have an abortion--thats your business--but if youre saying its wrong for anyone to have an abortion, then it is you who must prove it. youre categorically opposed to abortion; not just for yourself. im not categorically opposed to anything here; if you want a child, have one, if you want an abortion, have one. aside from the fact that abortion being deadlier is a lie, i know that isnt even why you oppose abortion.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
There is much documented proof that abortion hurts women.Society put it's head in the sand,ignoring how harmful abortion is to women over the yrs.It has killed her maternal spirit,and replaced it with a callousness.Who would not try to save someone from on coming train,knowing if you didn't try she would surely die.Abortion is that speeding train that about to destroy the women.We as a society have suffered,it threatens our survival, because of the potential loss of talent.Wheres the compassion?
122651Lil 1 year ago
Idisagree; David Reardon PhD"Ignoring facts,abortion supporters claim that abortion is safer than childbirth.However a recent Gov't study in Finland shows woman who abort are 4times more likely to die in the following years than woman who carry their preg. to term.This proves beyond a show of doublt that abortion is Not safer than childbirth".Reardon believes that abortion providers are collaborating with population zealots to conceal the risk of abortion in order their own financial agenda.
122651Lil 1 year ago
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4 times more likely to die of what?
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
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4 times more likely to die... from what?
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
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4 times more likely to die from what?
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
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4 times more likely to die of what?
Pelonetillo 1 year ago