this is a joke, in the sense that it really doesn't say anything other than the kung fu guy sucks absolute absolute balls. right after the take down, the dude moved IMMEDIATELY to side control and its pretty much over from there. its like beating on noobs.
Yea that s what happens if you only train forms-the kung fu guy could ve landed good kicks several times. Props to Thomas Fan, he had solid footwork, controlled his opponents movements and finally ended it with a nice armbar. Practitioners of asian styles should do more sparring sessions-else all their chi and "internal power" is useless...
@XFitness4LifeX practicing only one side of any fight is wasting your time. there will always be situations where things such as punches and kicks will not work, as you just saw in the video. and just so you know, ALL styles of asian martial arts cover sparrring DAILY during practice, unless it is a style we call "flowery fists" such as Wushu, which focuses more on impressive movements than actual fighting.
a counter/defense for that leg grab would have been easy. Drop your body weight, while simultaneously bringing your knee and elbow down into his head, neck, clavicle, or wherever you choose.
The guy in the chest protector had clearly very little experience in sparring, it was like he had no idea what to do when an actual, living breathing person was in front of him. This is the problem with form based martial arts, he's spent hours and hours practicing getting his forms just right to the air, whereas the other guy has spent countless hours wrestling and practicing with other people.
You guys debating about JKD should Google Bruce's essay titled "Liberate Yourself from Classical Karate". This essay, published in 1971 in Black Belt Magazine, clearly explains his thoughts on classical martial arts and "styles" in general.
@bboycrowm1 Is this based only on his use of the chest protector? Because his foot work, veeery few kicks and overall movement looks nothing nothing like Olympic or ITF TKD. And it's "Tae"not " Tai. And I don't think "thank you" is spelled r-e-t-a-r-d... childish.
I can see the bias even in the title. Here you have two guys of two differnt skill levels engaging in a sport. Two guys; one won, the other lost. The fighter won the match, not the art. Just in this sequence I saw many opportunities either person could have done real damage. This wasnt a guy, Thomas, with a name and his art fighting an unamed guy, but his art. Not very clever.
Bjj is good. But its hard to say nothing else stands a chance against it. In a street fight, weapons or multiple opponants. Bjj does hit back of head, eyes throat or groin.
People who are in denial of bjj say it's useless against multiple opponents. In reality, ALL fighting styles are useless against multiple opponents. When Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, etc beat up 10 guys, remember 1 thing. IT'S A MOVIE. It's CHOREOGRAPHED. If the striking arts are so effective, how come in the original UFCs, they couldn't beat up a SINGLE bjj opponent by the name of ROYCE GRACIE. BJJ rules.
@hondaciviccoupe10 BJJ doesn't suck, it's useful, but Royce Gracie wouldn't have stood a chance against Bruce Lee. Also, UFC is an american tournament. Most Asian martial art masters never heard of it.
@waterchainsawman I kind of agree with that but I must say that although Bruce Lee knew how to grapple, he was not the best ground fighter and i think had Royce taken him to the ground, he would get beaten. Yes, I have seen the scene of Bruce doing an armbar but it wasn't really the best armbar that anyone has seen. But I think with some training for Bruce Lee could definitely have been a formidable MMA fighter. Just my two cents :)
@SkemeKOS That's a classic MMA fan thought. You can't say people who doesn't know UFC suck at martial arts, since Asian martial art fans think the exact opposite way. Without talking about K-1 and other organisations.
@hondaciviccoupe10 why? cause they werent up for the gracie challenge i do Gracie Jiu Jitsu and when a bjj fighter meets a striker that has no idea what there doing on the ground fight is over 100 percent of the time. Bruce Lee would not stand a chance against Royce nor any UFC FIGHTERS cause bruce lee was a stand up fighter and kung fu or chinnese Martial artsTHOSE NOT WORK ANYWHERE STREETS CAGE RING W.E bjj never fails
@imKyurem If you knew anything about Bruce lee you wouldn't be thinking the way you do.
His whole style of art Jeet Kune Do is the essence of MMA - In fact I would go to say MMA Should simply go under the name of Jeet Kune Do since that's the basic Philosophy if that art.
If you would have looked Bruce trained in just about every aspect of fighting including ground work with Judo/Jui jitsu and wrestling experts. If your curious about what he really thought about martial arts go read his books
Each and every single one of them. If you know what JKD was about, you would know it's not actually a martial art. It IS a philosophy, that you should train multiple things and simply take the best ouf of them and combine them in to something that works for you.
Better known today as: crosstraining.
Now you name me one martial artist that does NOT crosstrain.
I agree, the concept of training everything is one of the most important things that Bruce Lee contributed to martial arts. That said the martial art JKD has rarely been seen in the world of mixed martial arts, to say that JKD = cross training and thus JKD is prevalent in MMA is much like saying Kicks = TKD thus TKD is prevalent in MMA. JKD is a great martial art and Bruce Lee was ages ahead in his thoughts about martial arts and training. (continued)
But unfortuanely JKD stopped evolving when he died and frankly there are evolved martial arts out there, that's why we see them in MMA, because of this great evolution of martial arts. (And also when you call someone else an idiot it just makes yourself look stupid.)
I had a bit of trouble understanding your last statement, but i'll try regardless. Now I don't know what I have to do with the evolution of JKD but we must look at it this was hybrid martial arts > traditional martial arts. Now JKD is certainly a hybrid martial art but it is a primitive hybrid martial art that has (from what I can tell) has stopped evolving. That's why we really don't see the martial art of JKD that prevalent in the world of modern MMA.
@assface567 it has not stopped evolving. jkd is something that will reflect the person himself, it can change according to the practitioner. each practitioner may put emphasis on styles or techniques that work for him
@TheStickeye You're wrong, and youre calling him an idiot? Bruce did not simply take the best of some things. It's also not something so arbitrary as do what works best for you. Go to the Bruce Lee Foundation website, Linda and Shannon Lee explain it.
Although relying on ground fighting as your main way of fighting is a bit impractical on the street....
For example, I would say the majority of attacks that occur on the street are involving multiple opponents so even if you are able to get one persone down to the ground and beat the crap out of him another opponent can always just smack you round the back of the head....
Put a Kung Fu man, a Karate man, a Mauy Thai man, a Judo man, an Aikido man, a totally untrained man, and a BJJ man in a room and let a bunch of Brawlers run in on them. Everyone will be able to escape the room except the BJJ asshole! LOL!
It's obvious you don't know a single thing about Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu--which, might I say, is universally the most effective art in self-defense--and probably the reason you hate it so much is because you keep getting your ass kicked by it. And you say Jiu-Jitsu was created with rules favoring only it, so tell me. Were those rules also implemented when Royce Gracie entered the UFC with Jiu-Jitsu? I'd say no, and he won almost three tournaments in a row and then the fourth with it
@HellfireDragone When u put a ground fighter vs strikers then the strikers will undoubtedly be in trouble. If BJJ beats a shit load of styles in competition then that doesn't mean shit! Hell wrestlers didn't know jack shit about BJJ in the early UFC and they got similar results. The problem w/ BJJ is that it threw many of the techniques found in Judo and Jiu Jutsu (namely nage waza) and focused only on single and dbl leg takedowns. This leaves a big hole in the strategy for self-defense.
@HellfireDragone There's a time when u need striking, there is a time when u need ground fighting and there is a time when u need to grapple on ur feet. BJJ/GJJ will shoot for a single or double leg every time because it works in competition. Say what u will, but that's all BJJ/GJJ give a shit about, winning competitions. Because that's how they get their false impression of superiority and keep the tuition coming. U'll catch a beer bottle in the back of ur head w/ those takedowns on the street!
Again, and don't mind if I quote myself--"It's obvious you don't know a single thing about Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu". Yes, those types of takedowns are effective in competitions, but if you knew a damn thing about Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, you'd quickly find there are hundreds of other different takedowns, most of which are created so you don't "catch a beer bottle in the back of your head".
Also, just because you see a BJJ guy use a two-leg takedown, it doesn't mean its the only thing he knows and practices, it means its the only thing he NEEDS because he knows the situation at hand and two-leg TDs are the best and easiest way of carrying out his takedown. And it's not a false impression of superiority, because--again I say this--Royce Gracie demonstrated its superiority in the first UFC tournaments and it evolved every single person's way of fighting
@HellfireDragone Every1 that knew the fight game always knew ground fighters could beat stand up fighters easily. Gracie just seized the opportunity to prove it to the millions of dumbasses that never had a clue. And he made shit loads of cash in the process. Any shit wrestler could have done the same thing. Styles r just like tools. They work in different situations. There r situations where BJJ is useless and situations were it excels. BJJ is not universal and therefore not superior.
Ah, yeah, what makes it superior is that its NOT universal. I work at a Gracie-certified Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu academy, so I think I would know what is effective in terms of self-defense and what isn't. People who own other dojos of all kinds of martial arts know who we are and what we do, and they wouldn't dare step into a fight with us, and you know why? Because they're scared of real Jiu-Jitsu and how effective it is, and I'm telling YOU this because this is what was told to US.
@HellfireDragone It doesn't matter if the NRA is afraid of u! The only thing that matters is, "Does the shit work in real self-defense?". The answer is sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. Because the situation determines whether or not it is safe to go on the ground. Sometimes its dangerous to go to the ground. When that happens then u have to rely on those arts u claim r afraid of u, don't u? Stop bragging like a little ass kisser fan boy over shit that's not important.
@osensei2987 So let me get this straight: you think that the ONE and ONLY aspect of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is ground fighting? Sure, it's a more important part of the system, but even its standing techniques can take care of punches and kicks. What makes it so far superior is that it is effective in ANY situation--FYI, this goes back to you not knowing a damn thing about it. Punch me, for example, and I'll take your arm and break it. Learn about it. And what's the NRA have to do with anything?
BJJ ball lickers will never understand. Beating a stand up stylist doesn't prove shit. It's like having a boxer vs a wrestler. The wrestler will always win. The problem is that u can't wrestle every time u have a fight. There are fighting situations in the real world were u have to avoid going to the ground at all cost. If ur caught in a situation like that then u better be able to stand up and rumble!
@importedinventions BJJ isn't well renown in China. But wherever it goes, it grows. Chinese do prefer this. They even have Beijing Jiu Jitsu. They realize their martial art sucks and it's watered down. It's going away for real warts to come in
@importedinventions Actually, it has a lot to do with it. Krav Maga was developed by a Hungarian boxer and wrestler. Krav Maga's striking techniques are just standard kickboxing, and their takedown/ground techniques are a mix of Judo, wrestling and Jiu-Jitsu. So basically Krav is just a combination of different martial arts put together (sounds a lot like Mixed Martial Arts), but more marketed toward self defense purists who are not interested in the sports/athletic aspect of the martial art.
@importedinventions I say it is watered down because the techniques they teach are sloppy. If you want to learn how to properly box and kick, take Muay Thai from an expert in THAT area, if you want to learn locks and throws learn BJJ from a BJJ instructor. The only thing Krav Maga does is it makes you think you're a human weapon who can easily disarm a gunman or fight off 10 attackers at once with your bare hands. And who told you that BJJ never works? Was it your Krav instructor?
@importedinventions And in the same situation Krav Maga will magically shield you from other people beating the shit out of you while you're trying to nut grab/squeeze someone's eyes out? No martial art is meant to protect you against multiple opponents as much as they want to advertise it. Best self defense in such situation is to run the hell away. And BJJ does not block your brain to the possibility of rearranging someone's face with your fists rather than trying to get a submission.
@importedinventions I've gotten my facts from the people who used to take Krav Maga classes and left because they've realized that all this "reality" based training that they did was a bunch of crap. Oh and those people are actual police officers and military sergeants who I train BJJ and Muay Thai with, but what would they know, they wouldn't know anything about "street" confrontations would they? They all have "ring mentality" as you call it. Keep on trolling human death machine!
@importedinventions I think you'll be the one getting shanked or shot in the face while trying to pull that shit you think will work in real life. Keep on playing with plastic knives and guns, superman. I'm looking forward hearing some of your made up stories about how you single handedly stopped a riot via rapid nut kicking and eye gouging. Keep on bitching about how Jiu-Jitsu doesn't work, just hope that you won't have to fight someone who really knows it.
@importedinventions I never claimed in this argument that BJJ is an end all fighting method. All of your desperate arguments consist of you insulting BJJ for the lack of the ability to kill 5 people at once. If you really think that you can easily subdue a gunman or a violent gang, make sure you get your head out of your ass first, or is that one of your secret deadly Krav techniques? If I get cornered I use what I can to save my life, wait, does that mean I am a Krav Maga expert too now?
@importedinventions Stop talking in circles. Instead of pointlessly bashing other martial arts, you should work on perfecting yours, now be a good troll and STFU.
@importedinventions I love how you're just running out of ideas to defend your lack of making good arguments. First you pedestal krav as an ultimate street fighting method, now you just rather shoot someone. I agree, we should stop this argument before I lose any more brain cells reading your bullshit. Go bash another another video claiming you're an expert. I'll go jerk off to some UFC videos while you find me some non staged Krav Maga videos, oh wait... THERE AREN'T ANY!
@AlexVictorEverett Krav is just like JKD to me. Everything + the kitchen sink! I see the same warmed over shit that ppl like Dan Inosanto teaches. Even fucking Kali sticks and Chi Sao! LOL! No one knows WTF it truly is. Soon as a SOB sees something that they think is good they add it to Krav! ROFLMAO! Honestly, the originator of Krav just used plain old karate techniques! Now it's chop sue!
@YourBrainOnReIigion Chinese martial arts is were most martial arts originated other than the original arts that came from India. Damn near every Eastern MA can be traced back to China. People will argue against it. But they're full of shit! All of the techniques in Judo, Jiu Jutsu, Aikido at al can be found Chi'Na, Shuajioux.
@YourBrainOnReIigion u can't compare one martial art vs another. Martial arts are not created equal. Different martial arts are used for different purposes. The situation determines which one is best and u can't prove that with competitions. It's like trying to say that a hammer is better than a screw driver.
@osensei2987 Yes you can. if I have a tool that does things better than another tool for the same situation, I definitely can compare and use the better. Both martial arts are used for combat. One does it better than the other. So the argument of saying a hammer to a screwdriver is flawed. Rather, comparing an old outdated car from the 30's to cars today.
@YourBrainOnReIigion Ok then ...! Mauy Thai or Karate? Both striking arts, both can function in long range, mid-range, or up close. Bet u say MT is better. That's just my prediction. But let's here it from u shall we? Which is better?
@YourBrainOnReIigion Furthermore, I hope ur not trying to suggest that BJJ is a modern style! Don't make me ROFL in ur face! BJJ is Judo ne waza! The same old shit that came from Jiguro Kano! Gracie couldn't compete in Judo! He kept getting his ass kicked. So he gave up and just focused on the ne waza aspect of Judo. Then he invented a sport having rules that favored his ne waza oriented style of Judo. And Gracies have been getting rich off ass kissers ever since.
@osensei2987 when did I say modern? that stuff was made in the 30's. Why would you roll on the floor in my face? you'd be on the floor dumbass. BJJ is so heavily modified it doesn't even look like it, further more it's effective and chinese use it instead of kung fu. Even japs use it now. HA
@osensei2987 I've trained in about everything and believe it comes down to various training methods of the arts. Take your classic Karate/TKD class with its predetermined sets of attacks and defenses. In most of those gyms a student will "spar" an average of 1 hour every two months. Sparring of course being the closest, safe, opportunity for students to practice there techiques against an unpredictable opponent. The grappling arts have an advantage in that EVERY class constists of "sparring"
@bullshidohunter Pitting 1 martial art vs another is deception. BJJ will win most of the time, but that really doesn't mean anything. Martial arts are used based on the situation u find yourself in. If you are a victim of a violent attack then the situation determines which martial art will be most effective. In some situations ground fighting is good. In another situation ur life might depend on being able to keep off the ground. The situation determines which tool works best.
@Frogalooninator actually, the part that traditional/japanese jiu jitsu requires more strenght is a myth. i've been practicing both jjj and bjj myself and notice no difference. jiu jitsu is a game of leverage and technique. it's individuals that put focus on strenght instead of leverage/technique themselves.
@Frogalooninator LMFAO okay just because they use leverage instead of strength, thats what makes it totally different? im glad you're going to stop because your killing me here. sorry bro but i think you need to learn a bit more about martial art's history, thanks for the replies anyway. twas interesting.
@Frogalooninator ahh again...i am only pointing out that BJJ comes from Jiu Jitsu which is Japanese, the name Jiu Jitsu is Japanese, a Japanese taught brazilians, Jiu Jitsu because of some shitty circus way back in the fricking shitty early 1900's. and then those ingonorant little chinchilla brazillians started to brand it there own. DONE
@ilovemmamuaythaibox Japanese JJ is different and more complete than BJJ. BJJ focuses on the ground almost exclusively because it is a sport that was designed to make money off of idiots that are easily convinced in its superiority over other martial arts. Japanese Jiu Jutsu incorporates strikes, kicks, joint locking and throwing in standing positions as well as ground fighting. BJJ threw most of those skills out because Gracie sucked ass at everything but the ground! LOL!
@osensei2987 thank you, finally someone that knows martial art's. and i totally agree with everything you said, gracie jiu jitsu hardly works anymore in the ufc, most fighters know how to get out of them 9/10 times
@importedinventions Thanks guys! I give BJJ credit for bringing ppls attention to ground fighting. But lets be honest! U need to know how to get back on ur feet if u end up on the ground. It's also good to know how to end a fight on the ground. But after you learn those two things the next 10 fucking yrs is spent learning strategies to use against other skilled grapplers. U only need that type of strategy for sports! 10yrs learning competition shit b4 u get ur black belt? No thanks!
@Frogalooninator bro seriously ufc isnt a anything goes sport, i hate it when people say that. They still have alot of rules so you just made a story up AGAIN. i dont need to do research, i've been surrounded by martial arts my whole life, i love ALL fight sports, even shitty UFC i like watching. I don't ridicule any fight sport, because thats all they are. SPORTS, not real fighting or martial arts. obviously you only got into a fight sport recently. because again you dont know shit...DONE
@Frogalooninator well unlike you i don't think out my response's like you have as we can see with you removing your comment up above (because you didn't like it or whatever) if thats all you can come up with, then i think you should stop commenting back because now you just sound like you are making this all up. The only thing that stands out in BJJ is that it wouldn't work in asia against REAL martial artist's, The creators of MARTIAL ARTS. BJJ is sloppy Jiu Jitsu
@Frogalooninator what ever man..they did not base it on judo, its jiu jitsu, they only call it brazilian because it was taught there a very long time ago...why else is it called brazilian? duh
@jamespohh And no one knows how your gonna react when it actually happens, its easy to say oh I'm just gonna do this or that, but you never know until it actually happens and yes I understand what you mean about using dirty techniques .
@jamespohh And no one knows how your gonna react when it actually happens, its easy to say oh I'm just gonna do this or that, but you never know until it actually happens and yes I understand what you mean about using dirty techniques .
@jamespohh My friends are dopes? lol you dont even know them, and seriously if you try to bite me, cheap shots to the groin or eye gouge me, Im gonna take your are put it behind my neckwhile my legs are locked then I'm gonna break there arm completely .
@jamespohh My friends are dopes? lol you dont even know them, and seriously if you try to bite me, cheap shots to the groin or eye gouge me, Im gonna take your are put it behind my neckwhile my legs are locked then I'm gonna break there arm completely .
Seriously? Here's what happens if you bite during that armbar, his heel goes up, his heel goes down, your lights go out. Sorry, but 'nibbling' is not going to stop anyone from breaking your elbow, ask any fighter. Pain only leads to more addrenalin, especially when it's a punk tactic like biting. Besides, there are alot of things the BJJ fighter could have done after the armbar to cause further damage.
Beautiful armbar. Besides that, weight class difference is obvious. And I think, in my opinion, that when another fighter hears their opponent is MMA, they get nervous cause they assume the first move they do will take you down. Kung Fu is a speed style, hitting mutiple times at close range. If the Kung Fu actually tried he might have been able to overwhelm the MMA guy before a successful counter. All in all the MMA guy should great control in his moves.
When someone gives up there neck on a leg grab like that you are putting your self in big danger. Someone could easily break someones neck like that. He had a good two seconds to snap it. Just saying.
Superior conditioning, sport rules, shitty opponent tech, watered down Judo-newaz can prevail under those conditions.Kung Fu guy was too afraid to strike and shouldn't have had armor. Simple kick to the nuts is all it takes.
Only a real fight, kung fu moves that have hurt and can finish the fight quickly. Because this is not the purpose of the demonstration, the practitioner of kung fu has little to do. So it is not possible to conclude that jiu jitsu is more efficient.
@pedrinho31 It really all depends on who is fighting and how they can read other peoples attacks and whether or not they can keep off the grou.d This Thomas Fan seems like an excellent fighter so he's probably a great challenge for a lot of people. Kung Fu is still very very effectiv but hey, people are allowed to believe what they want. I personally want the other guy on the ground, not myself.
BJJ 101, the armbar MMA 101 the takedown, if your a striker purist, you have zero defense against it unless your very creative. nothing wrong with kung fu, but people must cross train, and not train with people of the same discipline...find new ways to counter things.
Here is a woman that could probably take any BJJ guy also. Nothing against BJJ but this woman is not to be fucked with when it comes to grappling. Call it fake all you want, it's not. She is skillful and can take most men including myself.
This guy Thomas has extreme skills though. He gets his credit deserved. That arm bar was jaw dropping. I don't care who hes fighting, if someone can submit like that, it's mad skills.
Find someone with goood rooting ability and see how easy it is to take them down. You should have stopped down at Chen village and touched hands with one of them. Hong Kong? Really? You couldn't find a better place to represent your BJJ? LIke you know, BeIjing?
jiu jitsu can be used standing up (how I used it to face 3 guys in the street) if u can strike but not grapple, multiple opponents will take you down (remember, you never practice grappling and probably don't fight 5 times a class like a bjj guy) and stomp on you
As a martial artist, one must really be mindful of the old addage 'know ones enemy'. If you want to learn how to negate BJJ for example, you still have to become familiar with it, to deconstruct it. While sometimes helpful, and sometimes all too 'trending', BJJ forces those who prefer standup (in sport, or defense) to sharpen thier own skill. Nothing is good if you practise without constant considderation, BJJ, Jujutsu, Kungfu, boxing, all great, if you train mindfully.
Bjj greater then all
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ATiRAGEPRO 1 day ago
this is a joke, in the sense that it really doesn't say anything other than the kung fu guy sucks absolute absolute balls. right after the take down, the dude moved IMMEDIATELY to side control and its pretty much over from there. its like beating on noobs.
2DElectronGas 4 days ago
no takedown defense = no contest.
SteelCity1981 1 week ago
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How about posting the rest of the fight? I practice kung fu and one takedown means nothing to me
TheKungfuzen 1 week ago
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How about posting the rest of the fight? I practice kung fu and one takedown means nothing to me
TheKungfuzen 1 week ago
How about posting the rest of the fight? I practice kung fu and one takedown means nothing to me
TheKungfuzen 1 week ago
@TheKungfuzen Dude he armbarred him, the fight is over..
k00lkane 4 days ago
BJJ is king.
BeatRider44 3 weeks ago
0:20 Seconds of pure emotion ¬¬"
DeYviiSoN88 3 weeks ago
ive trainned with thomas out in hong kong his skills are ligit!
w8ngr 1 month ago
6 seconds from when they hit the floor to when the kung fu guy was tapping. Impressive groundwork.
BradyKnight 2 months ago
Yea that s what happens if you only train forms-the kung fu guy could ve landed good kicks several times. Props to Thomas Fan, he had solid footwork, controlled his opponents movements and finally ended it with a nice armbar. Practitioners of asian styles should do more sparring sessions-else all their chi and "internal power" is useless...
XFitness4LifeX 2 months ago
@XFitness4LifeX practicing only one side of any fight is wasting your time. there will always be situations where things such as punches and kicks will not work, as you just saw in the video. and just so you know, ALL styles of asian martial arts cover sparrring DAILY during practice, unless it is a style we call "flowery fists" such as Wushu, which focuses more on impressive movements than actual fighting.
puffpuffpass87 2 weeks ago
I've done BJJ for four years, it's the best.
Vorpalorb 2 months ago
a counter/defense for that leg grab would have been easy. Drop your body weight, while simultaneously bringing your knee and elbow down into his head, neck, clavicle, or wherever you choose.
LittleDanzig 2 months ago
The guy in the chest protector had clearly very little experience in sparring, it was like he had no idea what to do when an actual, living breathing person was in front of him. This is the problem with form based martial arts, he's spent hours and hours practicing getting his forms just right to the air, whereas the other guy has spent countless hours wrestling and practicing with other people.
WarriorBoy 2 months ago 9
wow kung fu is retarded. is it a martial art for babies?
SardonicFox1994 4 months ago
You guys debating about JKD should Google Bruce's essay titled "Liberate Yourself from Classical Karate". This essay, published in 1971 in Black Belt Magazine, clearly explains his thoughts on classical martial arts and "styles" in general.
FoneArc 4 months ago
hahaha TKD is a JOKE.
gargamel6699 4 months ago
everyone has to learn sometime...
mrpsb7 5 months ago
btw i have done kung fu and have at least five friends that do "tae kwan do" so i would no. and wtf did that last sentance even mean
bboycrowm1 6 months ago
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@bboycrowm1 hahaha you little bitch
MrNickDC 5 months ago
i think its childish u had to respond to my coment hahaha
bboycrowm1 6 months ago
he is not even a kung fu guy, he is a Bruce Lee wanna be, he cant even fight
911766 6 months ago
ur an idiot thats not kung fu thats tai kwan do retard
bboycrowm1 6 months ago
@bboycrowm1 Is this based only on his use of the chest protector? Because his foot work, veeery few kicks and overall movement looks nothing nothing like Olympic or ITF TKD. And it's "Tae"not " Tai. And I don't think "thank you" is spelled r-e-t-a-r-d... childish.
kunlao21 6 months ago 5
@kunlao21 ya no one cares how u spell it it was definintly TAE kwan do
FistoftheIronDragon 1 month ago
I can see the bias even in the title. Here you have two guys of two differnt skill levels engaging in a sport. Two guys; one won, the other lost. The fighter won the match, not the art. Just in this sequence I saw many opportunities either person could have done real damage. This wasnt a guy, Thomas, with a name and his art fighting an unamed guy, but his art. Not very clever.
CountVonBrink 7 months ago
Bjj is good. But its hard to say nothing else stands a chance against it. In a street fight, weapons or multiple opponants. Bjj does hit back of head, eyes throat or groin.
sirjarhead 7 months ago
Why on earth is he wearing a chest protector?? !! With a guy who doesn't plan to hit him lmao
jaffar1808 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter
Very well said my friend.
These noobs think that BJJ and GJJ(the original self defense form of BJJ) are the same thing and are all about winning competitions.
GJJ is for the streets.
SkemeKOS 7 months ago
People who are in denial of bjj say it's useless against multiple opponents. In reality, ALL fighting styles are useless against multiple opponents. When Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, etc beat up 10 guys, remember 1 thing. IT'S A MOVIE. It's CHOREOGRAPHED. If the striking arts are so effective, how come in the original UFCs, they couldn't beat up a SINGLE bjj opponent by the name of ROYCE GRACIE. BJJ rules.
hondaciviccoupe10 7 months ago
@hondaciviccoupe10 BJJ doesn't suck, it's useful, but Royce Gracie wouldn't have stood a chance against Bruce Lee. Also, UFC is an american tournament. Most Asian martial art masters never heard of it.
waterchainsawman 7 months ago
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@waterchainsawman I kind of agree with that but I must say that although Bruce Lee knew how to grapple, he was not the best ground fighter and i think had Royce taken him to the ground, he would get beaten. Yes, I have seen the scene of Bruce doing an armbar but it wasn't really the best armbar that anyone has seen. But I think with some training for Bruce Lee could definitely have been a formidable MMA fighter. Just my two cents :)
masterchief9064 7 months ago
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Bruce Lee and Royce Gracie would be a GREAT fight! Two legends!
If it goes to the ground, Id say Royce has the edge though.
Asian martial artists are behind the times, thats why theyve never heard of the UFC.
There are of course the REAL asian martial artists who know what the UFC is, and they fight in it.
The guys who dont know about it most likely suck badly.
SkemeKOS 7 months ago
@SkemeKOS That's a classic MMA fan thought. You can't say people who doesn't know UFC suck at martial arts, since Asian martial art fans think the exact opposite way. Without talking about K-1 and other organisations.
waterchainsawman 7 months ago
@hondaciviccoupe10 why? cause they werent up for the gracie challenge i do Gracie Jiu Jitsu and when a bjj fighter meets a striker that has no idea what there doing on the ground fight is over 100 percent of the time. Bruce Lee would not stand a chance against Royce nor any UFC FIGHTERS cause bruce lee was a stand up fighter and kung fu or chinnese Martial artsTHOSE NOT WORK ANYWHERE STREETS CAGE RING W.E bjj never fails
imKyurem 7 months ago
@imKyurem
Bruce Lee was an MMA fighter. He knew grappling and was a black belt in Judo. He learned wrestling from the legendary Gene Lebell.
But yeah, I still think the Gracies would beat Bruce on the ground. Bruce needed more time to improve his grappling.
SkemeKOS 7 months ago
@imKyurem If you knew anything about Bruce lee you wouldn't be thinking the way you do.
His whole style of art Jeet Kune Do is the essence of MMA - In fact I would go to say MMA Should simply go under the name of Jeet Kune Do since that's the basic Philosophy if that art.
If you would have looked Bruce trained in just about every aspect of fighting including ground work with Judo/Jui jitsu and wrestling experts. If your curious about what he really thought about martial arts go read his books
Xandralina69 7 months ago
Name at least 3 Jeet Kune Do mixed martial artists. Real world experience > Philosophy
assface567 7 months ago
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Each and every single one of them. If you know what JKD was about, you would know it's not actually a martial art. It IS a philosophy, that you should train multiple things and simply take the best ouf of them and combine them in to something that works for you.
Better known today as: crosstraining.
Now you name me one martial artist that does NOT crosstrain.
You just made yourself look like an idiot.
TheStickeye 7 months ago
I agree, the concept of training everything is one of the most important things that Bruce Lee contributed to martial arts. That said the martial art JKD has rarely been seen in the world of mixed martial arts, to say that JKD = cross training and thus JKD is prevalent in MMA is much like saying Kicks = TKD thus TKD is prevalent in MMA. JKD is a great martial art and Bruce Lee was ages ahead in his thoughts about martial arts and training. (continued)
assface567 7 months ago
But unfortuanely JKD stopped evolving when he died and frankly there are evolved martial arts out there, that's why we see them in MMA, because of this great evolution of martial arts. (And also when you call someone else an idiot it just makes yourself look stupid.)
assface567 7 months ago
@assface567 It only stopped evolving if you stop. Bruce's path stopped, but what he left us, if you truly get it, hasn't.
CountVonBrink 7 months ago
I had a bit of trouble understanding your last statement, but i'll try regardless. Now I don't know what I have to do with the evolution of JKD but we must look at it this was hybrid martial arts > traditional martial arts. Now JKD is certainly a hybrid martial art but it is a primitive hybrid martial art that has (from what I can tell) has stopped evolving. That's why we really don't see the martial art of JKD that prevalent in the world of modern MMA.
assface567 7 months ago
@assface567 it has not stopped evolving. jkd is something that will reflect the person himself, it can change according to the practitioner. each practitioner may put emphasis on styles or techniques that work for him
DonMega187 5 months ago
@TheStickeye You're wrong, and youre calling him an idiot? Bruce did not simply take the best of some things. It's also not something so arbitrary as do what works best for you. Go to the Bruce Lee Foundation website, Linda and Shannon Lee explain it.
CountVonBrink 7 months ago
kung fu is a joke
samcarr6 7 months ago
Although relying on ground fighting as your main way of fighting is a bit impractical on the street....
For example, I would say the majority of attacks that occur on the street are involving multiple opponents so even if you are able to get one persone down to the ground and beat the crap out of him another opponent can always just smack you round the back of the head....
Ice104 7 months ago
Put a Kung Fu man, a Karate man, a Mauy Thai man, a Judo man, an Aikido man, a totally untrained man, and a BJJ man in a room and let a bunch of Brawlers run in on them. Everyone will be able to escape the room except the BJJ asshole! LOL!
osensei2987 8 months ago
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It's obvious you don't know a single thing about Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu--which, might I say, is universally the most effective art in self-defense--and probably the reason you hate it so much is because you keep getting your ass kicked by it. And you say Jiu-Jitsu was created with rules favoring only it, so tell me. Were those rules also implemented when Royce Gracie entered the UFC with Jiu-Jitsu? I'd say no, and he won almost three tournaments in a row and then the fourth with it
HellfireDragone 8 months ago in playlist BJJ VS. Everyone else
@HellfireDragone When u put a ground fighter vs strikers then the strikers will undoubtedly be in trouble. If BJJ beats a shit load of styles in competition then that doesn't mean shit! Hell wrestlers didn't know jack shit about BJJ in the early UFC and they got similar results. The problem w/ BJJ is that it threw many of the techniques found in Judo and Jiu Jutsu (namely nage waza) and focused only on single and dbl leg takedowns. This leaves a big hole in the strategy for self-defense.
osensei2987 8 months ago
@HellfireDragone There's a time when u need striking, there is a time when u need ground fighting and there is a time when u need to grapple on ur feet. BJJ/GJJ will shoot for a single or double leg every time because it works in competition. Say what u will, but that's all BJJ/GJJ give a shit about, winning competitions. Because that's how they get their false impression of superiority and keep the tuition coming. U'll catch a beer bottle in the back of ur head w/ those takedowns on the street!
osensei2987 8 months ago
@osensei2987
Again, and don't mind if I quote myself--"It's obvious you don't know a single thing about Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu". Yes, those types of takedowns are effective in competitions, but if you knew a damn thing about Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, you'd quickly find there are hundreds of other different takedowns, most of which are created so you don't "catch a beer bottle in the back of your head".
HellfireDragone 7 months ago
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Also, just because you see a BJJ guy use a two-leg takedown, it doesn't mean its the only thing he knows and practices, it means its the only thing he NEEDS because he knows the situation at hand and two-leg TDs are the best and easiest way of carrying out his takedown. And it's not a false impression of superiority, because--again I say this--Royce Gracie demonstrated its superiority in the first UFC tournaments and it evolved every single person's way of fighting
HellfireDragone 7 months ago
@HellfireDragone Every1 that knew the fight game always knew ground fighters could beat stand up fighters easily. Gracie just seized the opportunity to prove it to the millions of dumbasses that never had a clue. And he made shit loads of cash in the process. Any shit wrestler could have done the same thing. Styles r just like tools. They work in different situations. There r situations where BJJ is useless and situations were it excels. BJJ is not universal and therefore not superior.
osensei2987 7 months ago
@osensei2987
Ah, yeah, what makes it superior is that its NOT universal. I work at a Gracie-certified Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu academy, so I think I would know what is effective in terms of self-defense and what isn't. People who own other dojos of all kinds of martial arts know who we are and what we do, and they wouldn't dare step into a fight with us, and you know why? Because they're scared of real Jiu-Jitsu and how effective it is, and I'm telling YOU this because this is what was told to US.
HellfireDragone 7 months ago
@HellfireDragone It doesn't matter if the NRA is afraid of u! The only thing that matters is, "Does the shit work in real self-defense?". The answer is sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. Because the situation determines whether or not it is safe to go on the ground. Sometimes its dangerous to go to the ground. When that happens then u have to rely on those arts u claim r afraid of u, don't u? Stop bragging like a little ass kisser fan boy over shit that's not important.
osensei2987 7 months ago
@osensei2987 So let me get this straight: you think that the ONE and ONLY aspect of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is ground fighting? Sure, it's a more important part of the system, but even its standing techniques can take care of punches and kicks. What makes it so far superior is that it is effective in ANY situation--FYI, this goes back to you not knowing a damn thing about it. Punch me, for example, and I'll take your arm and break it. Learn about it. And what's the NRA have to do with anything?
HellfireDragone 7 months ago
BJJ ball lickers will never understand. Beating a stand up stylist doesn't prove shit. It's like having a boxer vs a wrestler. The wrestler will always win. The problem is that u can't wrestle every time u have a fight. There are fighting situations in the real world were u have to avoid going to the ground at all cost. If ur caught in a situation like that then u better be able to stand up and rumble!
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importedinventions 8 months ago
When Chinese prefer BJJ over their own martial art, you know kung fu sucks
YourBrainOnReIigion 8 months ago
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@importedinventions BJJ isn't well renown in China. But wherever it goes, it grows. Chinese do prefer this. They even have Beijing Jiu Jitsu. They realize their martial art sucks and it's watered down. It's going away for real warts to come in
YourBrainOnReIigion 8 months ago
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@importedinventions Only the smart chinese, and those who know it
You mad?
YourBrainOnReIigion 8 months ago
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@importedinventions krav maga is just watered down bjj and muay thai.
AlexVictorEverett 8 months ago
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@importedinventions Actually, it has a lot to do with it. Krav Maga was developed by a Hungarian boxer and wrestler. Krav Maga's striking techniques are just standard kickboxing, and their takedown/ground techniques are a mix of Judo, wrestling and Jiu-Jitsu. So basically Krav is just a combination of different martial arts put together (sounds a lot like Mixed Martial Arts), but more marketed toward self defense purists who are not interested in the sports/athletic aspect of the martial art.
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@importedinventions I say it is watered down because the techniques they teach are sloppy. If you want to learn how to properly box and kick, take Muay Thai from an expert in THAT area, if you want to learn locks and throws learn BJJ from a BJJ instructor. The only thing Krav Maga does is it makes you think you're a human weapon who can easily disarm a gunman or fight off 10 attackers at once with your bare hands. And who told you that BJJ never works? Was it your Krav instructor?
AlexVictorEverett 8 months ago
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@importedinventions And in the same situation Krav Maga will magically shield you from other people beating the shit out of you while you're trying to nut grab/squeeze someone's eyes out? No martial art is meant to protect you against multiple opponents as much as they want to advertise it. Best self defense in such situation is to run the hell away. And BJJ does not block your brain to the possibility of rearranging someone's face with your fists rather than trying to get a submission.
AlexVictorEverett 8 months ago
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@importedinventions I've gotten my facts from the people who used to take Krav Maga classes and left because they've realized that all this "reality" based training that they did was a bunch of crap. Oh and those people are actual police officers and military sergeants who I train BJJ and Muay Thai with, but what would they know, they wouldn't know anything about "street" confrontations would they? They all have "ring mentality" as you call it. Keep on trolling human death machine!
AlexVictorEverett 8 months ago
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@importedinventions I think you'll be the one getting shanked or shot in the face while trying to pull that shit you think will work in real life. Keep on playing with plastic knives and guns, superman. I'm looking forward hearing some of your made up stories about how you single handedly stopped a riot via rapid nut kicking and eye gouging. Keep on bitching about how Jiu-Jitsu doesn't work, just hope that you won't have to fight someone who really knows it.
AlexVictorEverett 8 months ago
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@importedinventions I never claimed in this argument that BJJ is an end all fighting method. All of your desperate arguments consist of you insulting BJJ for the lack of the ability to kill 5 people at once. If you really think that you can easily subdue a gunman or a violent gang, make sure you get your head out of your ass first, or is that one of your secret deadly Krav techniques? If I get cornered I use what I can to save my life, wait, does that mean I am a Krav Maga expert too now?
AlexVictorEverett 8 months ago
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@importedinventions Stop talking in circles. Instead of pointlessly bashing other martial arts, you should work on perfecting yours, now be a good troll and STFU.
AlexVictorEverett 8 months ago
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@importedinventions I love how you're just running out of ideas to defend your lack of making good arguments. First you pedestal krav as an ultimate street fighting method, now you just rather shoot someone. I agree, we should stop this argument before I lose any more brain cells reading your bullshit. Go bash another another video claiming you're an expert. I'll go jerk off to some UFC videos while you find me some non staged Krav Maga videos, oh wait... THERE AREN'T ANY!
AlexVictorEverett 8 months ago
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importedinventions 8 months ago
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@AlexVictorEverett he gave up and removed all his comments
YourBrainOnReIigion 8 months ago
@AlexVictorEverett Krav is just like JKD to me. Everything + the kitchen sink! I see the same warmed over shit that ppl like Dan Inosanto teaches. Even fucking Kali sticks and Chi Sao! LOL! No one knows WTF it truly is. Soon as a SOB sees something that they think is good they add it to Krav! ROFLMAO! Honestly, the originator of Krav just used plain old karate techniques! Now it's chop sue!
osensei2987 8 months ago
@importedinventions Apparently I know more shit than you. Yeah you mad.
YourBrainOnReIigion 8 months ago
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@importedinventions I love how the entire time you don't provide any proof otherwise. Sorry, MMA and bjj is superior.
YourBrainOnReIigion 8 months ago
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@importedinventions You can provide links you ignorant fuck. Did your mom just let you use the internet today? LOL
YourBrainOnReIigion 8 months ago
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@YourBrainOnReIigion Chinese martial arts is were most martial arts originated other than the original arts that came from India. Damn near every Eastern MA can be traced back to China. People will argue against it. But they're full of shit! All of the techniques in Judo, Jiu Jutsu, Aikido at al can be found Chi'Na, Shuajioux.
osensei2987 8 months ago
@YourBrainOnReIigion u can't compare one martial art vs another. Martial arts are not created equal. Different martial arts are used for different purposes. The situation determines which one is best and u can't prove that with competitions. It's like trying to say that a hammer is better than a screw driver.
osensei2987 8 months ago
@osensei2987 Yes you can. if I have a tool that does things better than another tool for the same situation, I definitely can compare and use the better. Both martial arts are used for combat. One does it better than the other. So the argument of saying a hammer to a screwdriver is flawed. Rather, comparing an old outdated car from the 30's to cars today.
YourBrainOnReIigion 8 months ago
@YourBrainOnReIigion Ok then ...! Mauy Thai or Karate? Both striking arts, both can function in long range, mid-range, or up close. Bet u say MT is better. That's just my prediction. But let's here it from u shall we? Which is better?
osensei2987 8 months ago
@YourBrainOnReIigion Furthermore, I hope ur not trying to suggest that BJJ is a modern style! Don't make me ROFL in ur face! BJJ is Judo ne waza! The same old shit that came from Jiguro Kano! Gracie couldn't compete in Judo! He kept getting his ass kicked. So he gave up and just focused on the ne waza aspect of Judo. Then he invented a sport having rules that favored his ne waza oriented style of Judo. And Gracies have been getting rich off ass kissers ever since.
osensei2987 8 months ago
@osensei2987 when did I say modern? that stuff was made in the 30's. Why would you roll on the floor in my face? you'd be on the floor dumbass. BJJ is so heavily modified it doesn't even look like it, further more it's effective and chinese use it instead of kung fu. Even japs use it now. HA
YourBrainOnReIigion 8 months ago
@osensei2987 I've trained in about everything and believe it comes down to various training methods of the arts. Take your classic Karate/TKD class with its predetermined sets of attacks and defenses. In most of those gyms a student will "spar" an average of 1 hour every two months. Sparring of course being the closest, safe, opportunity for students to practice there techiques against an unpredictable opponent. The grappling arts have an advantage in that EVERY class constists of "sparring"
WalkerKumdo 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter Pitting 1 martial art vs another is deception. BJJ will win most of the time, but that really doesn't mean anything. Martial arts are used based on the situation u find yourself in. If you are a victim of a violent attack then the situation determines which martial art will be most effective. In some situations ground fighting is good. In another situation ur life might depend on being able to keep off the ground. The situation determines which tool works best.
osensei2987 8 months ago
Text book takedown-mount-armbar! Well done.
pragzter 9 months ago
@pragzter yeah BJJ is teh shit. it was actually takedown-side control-mount-arm bar :P
knpdyeballarice 9 months ago
@Frogalooninator you make me have an erection after you said that oooh yes i love you.
BloodCompaction 9 months ago
lol the bjj guy is like, bro! why all the protection? I'm not going to punch you.
esiosan 9 months ago
Nice Ouchi Gari to Juji Katame! Nice Judo!
wolfhammer2010 9 months ago
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@importedinventions and I am sure that BJJ people believe that Helio Gracie was floating over a pillow in the lotus position before he created water.
wolfhammer2010 8 months ago
@Frogalooninator actually, the part that traditional/japanese jiu jitsu requires more strenght is a myth. i've been practicing both jjj and bjj myself and notice no difference. jiu jitsu is a game of leverage and technique. it's individuals that put focus on strenght instead of leverage/technique themselves.
waldomarek 9 months ago
SUPER!
dieguitoarg123 10 months ago
ha! he totally got pwned at the end
Joel4941 10 months ago
@Frogalooninator and again you are twisting your words and mine, make up your mind, and i thought you were finished. GO AWAY
ilovemmamuaythaibox 10 months ago
@Frogalooninator LMFAO okay just because they use leverage instead of strength, thats what makes it totally different? im glad you're going to stop because your killing me here. sorry bro but i think you need to learn a bit more about martial art's history, thanks for the replies anyway. twas interesting.
ilovemmamuaythaibox 10 months ago
@Frogalooninator ahh again...i am only pointing out that BJJ comes from Jiu Jitsu which is Japanese, the name Jiu Jitsu is Japanese, a Japanese taught brazilians, Jiu Jitsu because of some shitty circus way back in the fricking shitty early 1900's. and then those ingonorant little chinchilla brazillians started to brand it there own. DONE
ilovemmamuaythaibox 10 months ago
@ilovemmamuaythaibox Japanese JJ is different and more complete than BJJ. BJJ focuses on the ground almost exclusively because it is a sport that was designed to make money off of idiots that are easily convinced in its superiority over other martial arts. Japanese Jiu Jutsu incorporates strikes, kicks, joint locking and throwing in standing positions as well as ground fighting. BJJ threw most of those skills out because Gracie sucked ass at everything but the ground! LOL!
osensei2987 8 months ago
@osensei2987 thank you, finally someone that knows martial art's. and i totally agree with everything you said, gracie jiu jitsu hardly works anymore in the ufc, most fighters know how to get out of them 9/10 times
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importedinventions 8 months ago
@importedinventions Thanks guys! I give BJJ credit for bringing ppls attention to ground fighting. But lets be honest! U need to know how to get back on ur feet if u end up on the ground. It's also good to know how to end a fight on the ground. But after you learn those two things the next 10 fucking yrs is spent learning strategies to use against other skilled grapplers. U only need that type of strategy for sports! 10yrs learning competition shit b4 u get ur black belt? No thanks!
osensei2987 8 months ago
the kungfu guy had no groundtechnique knowlegde
MaGaTsU117 10 months ago
Nice jiu jitsu!
PeidoLord 10 months ago
@Frogalooninator bro seriously ufc isnt a anything goes sport, i hate it when people say that. They still have alot of rules so you just made a story up AGAIN. i dont need to do research, i've been surrounded by martial arts my whole life, i love ALL fight sports, even shitty UFC i like watching. I don't ridicule any fight sport, because thats all they are. SPORTS, not real fighting or martial arts. obviously you only got into a fight sport recently. because again you dont know shit...DONE
ilovemmamuaythaibox 10 months ago
@Frogalooninator well unlike you i don't think out my response's like you have as we can see with you removing your comment up above (because you didn't like it or whatever) if thats all you can come up with, then i think you should stop commenting back because now you just sound like you are making this all up. The only thing that stands out in BJJ is that it wouldn't work in asia against REAL martial artist's, The creators of MARTIAL ARTS. BJJ is sloppy Jiu Jitsu
ilovemmamuaythaibox 10 months ago
@Frogalooninator what ever man..they did not base it on judo, its jiu jitsu, they only call it brazilian because it was taught there a very long time ago...why else is it called brazilian? duh
ilovemmamuaythaibox 10 months ago
dickheads need to get this straight....jiujitsu is japanese, not brazilian
ilovemmamuaythaibox 10 months ago
The kungfu/tkd guy did all he could.. can't blame him.. that's all he's got.
PokerVertigo 10 months ago
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@jamespohh And no one knows how your gonna react when it actually happens, its easy to say oh I'm just gonna do this or that, but you never know until it actually happens and yes I understand what you mean about using dirty techniques .
parks2000 10 months ago
@jamespohh And no one knows how your gonna react when it actually happens, its easy to say oh I'm just gonna do this or that, but you never know until it actually happens and yes I understand what you mean about using dirty techniques .
parks2000 10 months ago
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@jamespohh My friends are dopes? lol you dont even know them, and seriously if you try to bite me, cheap shots to the groin or eye gouge me, Im gonna take your are put it behind my neckwhile my legs are locked then I'm gonna break there arm completely .
parks2000 10 months ago
@jamespohh My friends are dopes? lol you dont even know them, and seriously if you try to bite me, cheap shots to the groin or eye gouge me, Im gonna take your are put it behind my neckwhile my legs are locked then I'm gonna break there arm completely .
parks2000 10 months ago
@ jamespohh
Seriously? Here's what happens if you bite during that armbar, his heel goes up, his heel goes down, your lights go out. Sorry, but 'nibbling' is not going to stop anyone from breaking your elbow, ask any fighter. Pain only leads to more addrenalin, especially when it's a punk tactic like biting. Besides, there are alot of things the BJJ fighter could have done after the armbar to cause further damage.
asquadjoey 10 months ago
@specialforces69 its not all that is needed, but its a great start.
ikcjjtt 10 months ago
Beautiful armbar. Besides that, weight class difference is obvious. And I think, in my opinion, that when another fighter hears their opponent is MMA, they get nervous cause they assume the first move they do will take you down. Kung Fu is a speed style, hitting mutiple times at close range. If the Kung Fu actually tried he might have been able to overwhelm the MMA guy before a successful counter. All in all the MMA guy should great control in his moves.
ScyllaIo 11 months ago
...Are you a retard dekal?
chris51ification 1 year ago
When someone gives up there neck on a leg grab like that you are putting your self in big danger. Someone could easily break someones neck like that. He had a good two seconds to snap it. Just saying.
dekal1 1 year ago
Superior conditioning, sport rules, shitty opponent tech, watered down Judo-newaz can prevail under those conditions.Kung Fu guy was too afraid to strike and shouldn't have had armor. Simple kick to the nuts is all it takes.
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mic69mist 1 year ago
why not learn kung fu and bjj ? anyway u cant use neck strikes in mma
danny5467 1 year ago
Only a real fight, kung fu moves that have hurt and can finish the fight quickly. Because this is not the purpose of the demonstration, the practitioner of kung fu has little to do. So it is not possible to conclude that jiu jitsu is more efficient.
pedrinho31 1 year ago
@pedrinho31 It really all depends on who is fighting and how they can read other peoples attacks and whether or not they can keep off the grou.d This Thomas Fan seems like an excellent fighter so he's probably a great challenge for a lot of people. Kung Fu is still very very effectiv but hey, people are allowed to believe what they want. I personally want the other guy on the ground, not myself.
dekal1 1 year ago
BJJ 101, the armbar MMA 101 the takedown, if your a striker purist, you have zero defense against it unless your very creative. nothing wrong with kung fu, but people must cross train, and not train with people of the same discipline...find new ways to counter things.
HomasterX 1 year ago
THAT WAS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
joey20112 1 year ago
The guy was completly clueless. He was just like "here, take my arm"
kamhal89 1 year ago
Here is a woman that could probably take any BJJ guy also. Nothing against BJJ but this woman is not to be fucked with when it comes to grappling. Call it fake all you want, it's not. She is skillful and can take most men including myself.
dekal1 1 year ago
This guy Thomas has extreme skills though. He gets his credit deserved. That arm bar was jaw dropping. I don't care who hes fighting, if someone can submit like that, it's mad skills.
dekal1 1 year ago
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dekal1 1 year ago
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dekal1 1 year ago
is he the triquest mma instructor?
23bilog23 1 year ago
Find someone with goood rooting ability and see how easy it is to take them down. You should have stopped down at Chen village and touched hands with one of them. Hong Kong? Really? You couldn't find a better place to represent your BJJ? LIke you know, BeIjing?
dekal1 1 year ago
@dekal1 There is a BJJ academy in Beijing too. Bjjchina dot com. They have had matches there too where BJJ and MMA fighters won.
Lordasia 1 year ago
@Lordasia Not in Chen Village. lol
dekal1 1 year ago
@dekal1 Maybe not but its not like the outcome is going to be different.
Lordasia 1 year ago
@Lordasia In case you didn't know they are grapplers over there. And can handle any BJJ guy thats steps to them.
dekal1 1 year ago
@dekal1 Proof please.
Lordasia 1 year ago
owned
jrod1845 1 year ago
jiu jitsu can be used standing up (how I used it to face 3 guys in the street) if u can strike but not grapple, multiple opponents will take you down (remember, you never practice grappling and probably don't fight 5 times a class like a bjj guy) and stomp on you
marsy91 1 year ago
Ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!! Kung fu only works on saturday afternoon 'blackbelt theater'!!
talon115 1 year ago
@cwkinser not much anymore, but i took kung fu, muay thai, and did wrestling briefly in college, but it wasn't my thing and i quit.
Guinea54 1 year ago
LOL, he brutalised this dude.
murphygp 1 year ago
The funny thing is that we don´t know how many years has that guy trained Kung Fu. He didn´t throw a single punch or kick.
Flavioxeneize 1 year ago
wow, shitted on!
antmartinez2323 1 year ago
As a martial artist, one must really be mindful of the old addage 'know ones enemy'. If you want to learn how to negate BJJ for example, you still have to become familiar with it, to deconstruct it. While sometimes helpful, and sometimes all too 'trending', BJJ forces those who prefer standup (in sport, or defense) to sharpen thier own skill. Nothing is good if you practise without constant considderation, BJJ, Jujutsu, Kungfu, boxing, all great, if you train mindfully.
hidarikikica 1 year ago