Channel3000..com--Nov. 2010: "Beil [WSEU dir.] has been at the bargaining table with state officials for months, so the governor-elect [Walker] asking them to step away, doesn't sit well...."
".....state workers might have an agreement with the current administration [Doyle]in the next 10 days..."
Notice the time it takes to "negotiate" with unions and their "you are on our time" mentality?
They agree to concessions NOW but before they made news it was "fund our Viagra taxpayers".
hopefully the parents will take over and homeschool their children,save the tax payers a lot of money,then maybe the kids will learn to read by the 9th grade,and maybe be taught they didn't come from a monkey
Companies send jobs overseas because they will work for much less than you or I can legally be paid. Corporations exist to produce as much profit as possible. American workers will NEVER be able to compete with the sheer desperation of a worker in the third world.
Also, thugs? Really? I've known a lot of teachers and not one was particularly thuggish. Even the ones in the union.
Hey...... Fire the Dem. Senators and teachers .... Hire the unemployed... Did you see the communist and socialist signs in the crowd? Scary what people will believe in when they feel worried about jobs... They make pro-rated --- 9 months of teaching-- $118,000 and year.... How about you ?
Most (99.6%) don't get it. The Rep & Dems are BOTH working together to turn our govt into a fascist police state. Why did the new 'tea party' Reps vote to renew the unlawfull, and UNpatriotic Patriot bill? Why is Barney Frank working on a new way govt can be involved in financing low income people into houses? (It worked so well the last time.) A union is an economic Militia and one of the few tools that exists to fight tyranny in govt. If Barney Frank has his way no one will own a home.
i disagree COMPLETELY. democrats and GOP have fundamentally different philosophies...even if there are corrupt democrats, there are still those like Bernie Sanders, a socilast by the way, who is a true blue
Social media like Face Book and Twitter have been used to revolutionize societies. Maybe they should be tried in the U.S. Rewrite and reintroduce the “Employee Freedom of Choice” Act so it uses the Internet to allow workers to request and conduct a vote on union representation in truly secret elections where bosses can’t identify and fire union organizers. Make corporations bargain with unions 30 days after workers vote in a union. A REAL secret ballot to make the Chamber of Commerce happy!
Dale your comparison of the tea party to the idiot that shot Congress women Giffords in the head just shows how nieve you are. There isn't one shred of evidence that liked the shooter to the tea party or Sarah Palin or any other conservative. If there would of been MSNBC, CNN and every other media outlet would still be telling us that several times a day. He was crazy, atheist, so more than likely he was a Democrat.
Unions make up 2% of the population and they think they should get paid better, and have better benefits than everyone else at the expense of YOU the taxpayer. And if they don't get what they want they will break the law, sacrifice childrens eductaion, and the Democratic lawmakers who support these THUGS will run away to Illinois like little babies. And who do you think is paying for these lawmakers to stay in Illinois? Thats right the Democratic Party. This should piss everyone off.
i think in America, everyone who can work should have the right to work and earn a good living. i think the capitalist system in America doesn't even work as well as the communist/capitalist system in China, or else we'd be in surplus and china be in deficit...of course electing a monkey brained president who wasted 3 trillion on a phony war while doling out trillions in Tax Cuts doesn't help our case either...stop labeling and look at the evidence...GOP + Tea Party = screw UPS
@dalecampbl9 Your true colors are shown you are a communist....typical union worker. Amercia has the best system in the world and that is why people from around the world flock here. Do you see a mass migration of people to China....NOPE. Obama has spent more in two years than all the Presidents previous combined. You really don't have a clue but that is what I would expect from a liberal Democrat.
i told you stop labeling me with one label fits all...I like socialist policies, I also like capitalist policies...I'll make that very clear...it's like saying if I like chocolate, I can't like vanilla...that your TEA PARTY...you slap a label and hope that is the most derogatory label ever and hope that no other labels stick...it's stupid because you make it seems like I can't think for myself....go screw yourself you villainous tea party supporter...your kind has crossed the line enough times
@dalecampbl9 o.k. u are a capitialist and socialist not my label but yours. This country was a Democracy founded on a capitialistic system. Socialism will destroy this nation. Name one socialist country in the world that has done well. It doesn't work u make have a government that makes everyone equal.
this nation was also founded on slavery and the 3/5 clause, but we don't see that any more do we? we PROGRESSED past it buddy...you party likes to bring back oligarchy, buddy....face the music, GOP stands for rule of rich over all...rich buys politicians, rich buys judges and you dumb shits willingly go with it
it's funny how you mention "ME" the tax payer...you know something...your political party has been wasting my tax money long enough. I want you guys to keep pissing off the working people by pulling these stunts so the middle class will start voting the pathetic Tea Party out of office. You are nothing but a billionaire back phony grass roots party that parades blasphemizing the whole idea behind the real tea party.
@dalecampbl9 Billionaire??? I am a middle class small business owner who is sick and tired of watching a Democratic president and congress spend my grandchildrens future away on social programs that don't work. What has the federal government ever done that saved money? The government and its social programs are not the answer and never will be. Obama care will cost trillions and our healthcare will decline. Hasn't worked anywhere in the world and won't here. Just one example.
u are super rich or a sucker 4 the tea party...you are the later. just because America is the greatest place to work doesn't MEAN IT CANNOT BE IMPROVED....why are you tea party people sooo self-defeatist...so unwilling to be better...i mean you talk about poor people being lazy and unwilling to improve..your party is based on the unwillingness to improve and the erosion of all liberal social progress....while Egypt got rid of totalitarian rule, you like billionaires to rule over you.
WTF are you talking about? You want the teachers unions to retain their rule over the taxpayer. You want to talk about totalitarian rule? Look no further that the union tax leeches. I don't want any of the services these public union have to offer, nor would I ever put a child in one to be indoctrinated.
look no further than bail out banks who took our billions and converted them to bonuses..and how did they get htis hand out? because earlier they paid lots of money to push these pro billionaire politicians into office...and you blame the teacher's unions as if they have the ability to bring down the country's financial systems and then ask for and successfully receive billions in bail out? ARE YOU FUCKEN BLIND!!!!!!!!
the tea party might be made up of ignorants, but it's whole purpose is pretty much what HItler's SS did, to intimidate, to inspire people to shoot Giffords in the head, to talk non-sense 24/7 with the hopes that the middle class will be confused as to what the real perpetrator is. But the middle class aint stupid...we know...WE KNOW that millionaires and billionaires back the tea party, we know it's all propaganda and we know the GOV'T is made up of US for US, not for just the top 1%.
@dalecampbl9 You say that the tea party is based on intimidation.....what are you union THUGS led by the greatest intimidator (Richard Tumka) doing in Madison right now. This is the greatest show of intimidation now in our nation. Threatening the governor to do what you union THUGS want at the expense of the tax payers. We are a Democracy the Governor and Wisconsin lawmakers were voted in and are trying to balance a budget.
has any union member every shot a congresswomen in the head? THUGS? what you expect anyone to buy that label? thugs!!? you ever live around thugs..you think you still be alive if you lived around thugs..if society was full of thugs at the work place? Typical GOP Fear Rhetoric...WMD...TERROR.. .THUGS...COMMUNISM...hoping that label with dubious meanings will cloud better judgment...we have the right to protest..it's constitutional...aren't you a tea party constitutional law expert?!
even the KKK can parade around and it's constitutional. let me tell you something, a lot of people in USA are complacent and they don't vote...but remember when you start messing with the very fundamental core of people's livelihoods and you let guys like Bernie Madoff work the system to embezzle so much money from hard working people, and then turn around and call the same hard working people "LAZY" that's a recipe to get thrown out....Walker purposefully screwed up the budget to do this
when Bush was wasting (happily, compellingly) wasting 3 trillion on a phony war in Iraq...and its fucken phoney because we have dictators everywhere...so why the fucke iraq...becuz we know it's not WMDs, beacuse we still haven't found any and we've bombed that place to shit. Where were the "tea party" guys when bush was wasting 3 trillion and THEN ADDING TRILLIONS IN tax...as if WARS magically fund themselves?!?!?! There were tea party, because the millionaires and billionaires didnt back them
in a DEMOCRACY if we dictate that no one gets rich then it's law...if we dictate that NO ONE gets to get rich selling phony derivatives or through a bubble economy..it's law...and how fears that? those who sell phoney derivatives, love to pollute hte weath and stymie electrical car developments, those who love to set up bubble economies...and those who buy our supreme court judges and politicians. people on here, esp, if you are a LIBERAL..go out and vote these fuckers out in next election
only in America are we so fat and stupid that we don't see...see that when a Radio pesonnnel like Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh gets paid ... MILLIONS JUST TO TALK...you know something is up...this can't be right? are they Jesus that they get this much money? no...they talk because they are the speakers for the RICH...the new oligarchy who like the nobles of France pre-Napoleon screwed that country to hell...but history repeats itself...and rich oligarchy wants to the do the same to USA.
the billionaires and millionaires like the KOCH brothers are scared as hell, they want to destroy democracy...if democracy dictates socialism then we are socilaist..no questions asked...that's why democracy is good, it's not a matter of debate, it's a matter of voting...and the billionaires know this, this is why they try SOOO hard to destroy the middle class wealth through a 3 trillion waste of a war, and erosion of all social progress..so they can remain in power and screw u in the ass more.
im a republican and a state employee in florida. I look at it as do the right thing and it seems my partry isn't doing what is right. Cut the spending take away welfare before you cut hard working citizens money and benefits.
according to the GOP, if you don't work for minimum wage and work 60 hrs a week in dangerous work conditions...YOU AIN'T WORKING HARD ENOUGH...I mean...can you honestly not SEE THAT COMING SOON as the reason to take away all social progress in labor. America needs to purge itself of rich punks who think they are above democracy and the rule of honest/fair laws and this is a fight the GOP/Tea Faggets have taken to the middle class and the poor class. Class warfare is inevitable, wake up dude!!!
Just wondering, where do these people expect the money to come from? Do they want the Peoples Taxes to Increase? Do they feel they are Entitled to have these Jobs and why don't they just quit if the job is no good?
Yes they want everyone else to pay for them. They don't care where the money comes from. Just bankrupt the whole country so they can live comfortably. Rome is burning people. Hey people figure out how to manage money and live within you means!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't spend more than you make.
creating derivatives and then getting rich off of it by hedging bets that the ECONOMY WILL TANK and then actually causing the economy to tank...that' sTAKING AND NOT GIVING. WHY DON'Y you screw your head on straight buddy.
"I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the public sector. A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government."President FDR
Richard Trumka is a thug communist union leader. He is also buddies with our wonderful Presdent. The two together will destroy this nation. All you brillent liberals please tell me what the Governor is suspose to do if Wisconsin is broke and can't pay their bills. Continue to pay you thugs even more money.....hell no. Thank God for the governor of Wisconsion!!!! The tea party will be in town to take you on and we will win because the people of the nation are on our side. Can't wait for 2012!
I own a small buisness and do you think I would ever hire union workers. Look no farther than Wisconsin. Thugs will run your business and if you don't like it to bad. Unions destroy what ever they touch. Do you wonder why companies send jobs overseas.......look no farther than Madison would you want these thugs working for you?
I have some friends who ancestors were communist that came over here from Russia in the 1920's. Their goals were to set up and run unions. These unions were to bring down the West from within. They went to Detroit because at that time Detroit was the industrial might of the USA. think Henry Ford auto plants. They were successful. These unions and the corrupt Democrat politicians have destroyed Detroit. Look up any youtube of Detroit and see the abandon and burned out buildings.
@frio109 Unions are totally based off of a marxist ideology. Everyone gets paid the same, so it doesn't matter how hard you work you will get paid the same. So what do we have...union workers that do as little of work as possible and want maiximum pay and benefits....and this my friends is what we have in Wisconsin and is the face of the Democratic party. If you truely do want to save America you will fight agaisnt unions.
hey dude when you are 50 and can no longer compete against me, I'm gonna fucken gut your wealth and steal all your money...."legally" of course through faulty invest schemes you can't see coming even if it was right in front of your eyes...and then don't go crying about communists...go cry at your stupidity for a purely "survival of the fittest" country. if you want to talk the talk....u better walk the walk...you act like some haughty ass punk with your high in the air...wait until u get it
there are roughly 355,000 union members in wisconsin. let's say they all have one million dollars in net worth which is a high estimate. think about it, one million? that would make their worth around 355 million dollars.
the net worth of the koch brothers is about 17.5 billion dollars
scott walker's net worth is about 100 million. this one individual has almost 1/3 the high estimate worth of the wis union members.
well i have my own business too! does that mean i want to go into unions? maybe later if i'm successful enough, i would definitely look into it. i would probably make a cooperative. i'm not into keeping all the wealth like these nutty billionaires and their puppet politicians.
i was in a union and i was subject to being fired, but in the end, my managers and i learned how to work together.
fuck conservatives...they are nothing but party for the ultra rich oligarchies...things dont work because corrupt fuckers who have too much money like Madoff think they are above democracy and above the law. we should shoot those guys. i'm serious
Every Conservative person in the United States that can go to Wisconsin to protest these Union THUGs should go. This is ground zero if Obama and his union henchmen THUGs get their way over the WILLL of th PEOPLE they will do this in every state and America will be finished. This will be a civil war.
u are nothing but a corporate paid scumbag who is on here writing lies. you want to worship the rich? i want to worship democracy. and democracy demands UNIONS.
@dalecampbl9 No I own a small business and if my workers ever formed a union I would close my business before the unions destroyed it and I had to file bankrupcy. Please name one industry where unions haven't destroyed it or they are now subsidised by the federal government. These isn't one, they destroyed the Auto industry, the airline industry (except southwest that isn't union) is broke, states can't pay public sector unions such as Wisconsin, union are the scurge of the earth.
sounds and looks like he went to the public school,time to home school your kids, or pay a teacher ,or send to private school,no more taxpayers money for unions
This governor was elected by you citizen of Wisconsin. You guys like so many in this country wanted changes in governement. Now since the changes dose not favor you unions folks at all, you guys go out protesting like spoil brats You guys should be kicking youself stupid for voting this crazy right tea bagger in the first place. This just the beginning for the fight for the middle class family. Stay the course people!!
@ShinjukuHH Of course it's anti-democracy. The Republicans of today hate democracy, because people have equal rights in democracy. They think democracy is synonymous with communism. They prefer a system in which a person's power is entirely determined by the amount of money they have. And since a totally unregulated market inevitably concentrates most wealth in the hands of the few, this produces a society where a few people wield all the power.
rich hate democracy because they know they are only 2% of the vote...that's why GOP have been trying to weaken education and bankrupt the treasury (3 trillion into Iraq)...more costs to enroll into public universities. it's amazing, they are so successful. Americans need to realize that, it is possible to live a GOOD LIFE without having to work for minimum wage and working 80 hr weeks...it's called threatening the rich with CARING about DEMOCRACY
@frio109 Do you people not keep up on the news??? Just wondering! They offered the 12% to pay for healthcare and they offered the 5% of their pay. That is what they wanted after all because they "say" it's all about money. Now they offered the money but wanted to keep their right to collective bargain and the governer said nope! So really it's not about the money. They could have offered to give up the collective bargaining and keep the money and it would have been done. Pay attention!
@frio109 Thank God we have unions that protect from people that think like you is all I have to say. I'm not even going to debate someone who wouldn't care if the truth kicked them in the ass. Your reasoning makes no sense at all. You are a chearleader for big corporation the richest of the rich that are still taking money even though it's not there. You people on the right wont' be happy even when this country is run like Walmart. Then you will just find something else to fuck up.
This is an economic Patriot Act Bill. Deny the citizens their rights because the govt claims it needs more control due to economic chaos. Give up your rights for security, give up your rights due to State fiscal irresponsibility, next give up your rights to freely marry and have children. The govt will need to regulate who can procreate. NEVER relinquish any right. To do so, you endanger all rights.
we are the "GOVT' you moron...anyone in America who doesn't believe they were given a right to be a part of the gov't should get deported...if you are communist you are a part of the gov't, if you are a corporate fascist like GOP is you are also a party of hte gov't ... if u think of the GOV'T as some "third party entity" off in the distance you are a true IDIOT and you deserve to go through K -12 all over again for free. Morons. As part of gov't we vote, and "communists" win. SO be it.
All they have to do is study the economics, and how free market system works, and all the libs who say they love freedom will have a better understanding. then libs will be a free market supporters. They can study how the big government taxation works against property owners, and libs will be free market supporters.
@tuubydude I'm against this protest, because unions under the government programs, and schools should be demolished, because the public should be able to decide on their tax dollars. Love it , hate it. truth be told.
@macdogq Your against peoples fundamental rights because the govt misspent money they owed to people so now they don't want to pay? That is screwed up on so many levels.
@tuubydude The founding fathers were almost to a man against big government. Adams publish "Thoughts on Government" in 1776 that if a Continental government was formed that it should sacredly be confined to certain enumerated powers.
@macdogq Again! Pay attention! It's not about the money. Your neocon heros want them to give up their rights. They already offered the money but wanted to keep their rights to collective bargaining. Your tea baggin hero governor said no. Now had they offered to give up their rights and keep the money he would have jumped on it like flies on shit. If you got your news from more than one freaking station you would know theis things.
@tuubydude Fire the protestors. Why should they keep demanding that taxpayers pay for THEIR health care and pensions. They can pay like everyone else. If they don't like it? Fire them and their communist unions.
The right for Average Americans to not lose their homes from increasing property taxes should be a right as well ... Thank you Gov. Walker ... you are doing a great thing for the private sector!
"It was the tip of the iceburg." I put my pizza down, called my mom and dad for some gas money, because I'm an RA and that's not really a job, and I came down to show my support. I mean, we have to stand up. I'm a social arts major and I need someone to take care of me when my parents refuse to pay my bills any longer.
Channel3000..com--Nov. 2010: "Beil [WSEU dir.] has been at the bargaining table with state officials for months, so the governor-elect [Walker] asking them to step away, doesn't sit well...."
".....state workers might have an agreement with the current administration [Doyle]in the next 10 days..."
Notice the time it takes to "negotiate" with unions and their "you are on our time" mentality?
They agree to concessions NOW but before they made news it was "fund our Viagra taxpayers".
11KmPerSec 11 months ago
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hopefully the parents will take over and homeschool their children,save the tax payers a lot of money,then maybe the kids will learn to read by the 9th grade,and maybe be taught they didn't come from a monkey
MrOne4truth 1 year ago
Companies send jobs overseas because they will work for much less than you or I can legally be paid. Corporations exist to produce as much profit as possible. American workers will NEVER be able to compete with the sheer desperation of a worker in the third world.
Also, thugs? Really? I've known a lot of teachers and not one was particularly thuggish. Even the ones in the union.
bakerblake 1 year ago
Hey...... Fire the Dem. Senators and teachers .... Hire the unemployed... Did you see the communist and socialist signs in the crowd? Scary what people will believe in when they feel worried about jobs... They make pro-rated --- 9 months of teaching-- $118,000 and year.... How about you ?
ultraconservrepub 1 year ago
watch?v=oxE7wozxLtg
FDR knew what to do
hellorodney 1 year ago
Most (99.6%) don't get it. The Rep & Dems are BOTH working together to turn our govt into a fascist police state. Why did the new 'tea party' Reps vote to renew the unlawfull, and UNpatriotic Patriot bill? Why is Barney Frank working on a new way govt can be involved in financing low income people into houses? (It worked so well the last time.) A union is an economic Militia and one of the few tools that exists to fight tyranny in govt. If Barney Frank has his way no one will own a home.
Aluminumatti 1 year ago
i disagree COMPLETELY. democrats and GOP have fundamentally different philosophies...even if there are corrupt democrats, there are still those like Bernie Sanders, a socilast by the way, who is a true blue
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
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Social media like Face Book and Twitter have been used to revolutionize societies. Maybe they should be tried in the U.S. Rewrite and reintroduce the “Employee Freedom of Choice” Act so it uses the Internet to allow workers to request and conduct a vote on union representation in truly secret elections where bosses can’t identify and fire union organizers. Make corporations bargain with unions 30 days after workers vote in a union. A REAL secret ballot to make the Chamber of Commerce happy!
1293drive 1 year ago
Dale your comparison of the tea party to the idiot that shot Congress women Giffords in the head just shows how nieve you are. There isn't one shred of evidence that liked the shooter to the tea party or Sarah Palin or any other conservative. If there would of been MSNBC, CNN and every other media outlet would still be telling us that several times a day. He was crazy, atheist, so more than likely he was a Democrat.
zzot2 1 year ago
Unions make up 2% of the population and they think they should get paid better, and have better benefits than everyone else at the expense of YOU the taxpayer. And if they don't get what they want they will break the law, sacrifice childrens eductaion, and the Democratic lawmakers who support these THUGS will run away to Illinois like little babies. And who do you think is paying for these lawmakers to stay in Illinois? Thats right the Democratic Party. This should piss everyone off.
zzot2 1 year ago
i think in America, everyone who can work should have the right to work and earn a good living. i think the capitalist system in America doesn't even work as well as the communist/capitalist system in China, or else we'd be in surplus and china be in deficit...of course electing a monkey brained president who wasted 3 trillion on a phony war while doling out trillions in Tax Cuts doesn't help our case either...stop labeling and look at the evidence...GOP + Tea Party = screw UPS
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
@dalecampbl9 Your true colors are shown you are a communist....typical union worker. Amercia has the best system in the world and that is why people from around the world flock here. Do you see a mass migration of people to China....NOPE. Obama has spent more in two years than all the Presidents previous combined. You really don't have a clue but that is what I would expect from a liberal Democrat.
zzot2 1 year ago
i told you stop labeling me with one label fits all...I like socialist policies, I also like capitalist policies...I'll make that very clear...it's like saying if I like chocolate, I can't like vanilla...that your TEA PARTY...you slap a label and hope that is the most derogatory label ever and hope that no other labels stick...it's stupid because you make it seems like I can't think for myself....go screw yourself you villainous tea party supporter...your kind has crossed the line enough times
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
@dalecampbl9 o.k. u are a capitialist and socialist not my label but yours. This country was a Democracy founded on a capitialistic system. Socialism will destroy this nation. Name one socialist country in the world that has done well. It doesn't work u make have a government that makes everyone equal.
zzot2 1 year ago
this nation was also founded on slavery and the 3/5 clause, but we don't see that any more do we? we PROGRESSED past it buddy...you party likes to bring back oligarchy, buddy....face the music, GOP stands for rule of rich over all...rich buys politicians, rich buys judges and you dumb shits willingly go with it
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
it's funny how you mention "ME" the tax payer...you know something...your political party has been wasting my tax money long enough. I want you guys to keep pissing off the working people by pulling these stunts so the middle class will start voting the pathetic Tea Party out of office. You are nothing but a billionaire back phony grass roots party that parades blasphemizing the whole idea behind the real tea party.
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
@dalecampbl9 Billionaire??? I am a middle class small business owner who is sick and tired of watching a Democratic president and congress spend my grandchildrens future away on social programs that don't work. What has the federal government ever done that saved money? The government and its social programs are not the answer and never will be. Obama care will cost trillions and our healthcare will decline. Hasn't worked anywhere in the world and won't here. Just one example.
zzot2 1 year ago
u are super rich or a sucker 4 the tea party...you are the later. just because America is the greatest place to work doesn't MEAN IT CANNOT BE IMPROVED....why are you tea party people sooo self-defeatist...so unwilling to be better...i mean you talk about poor people being lazy and unwilling to improve..your party is based on the unwillingness to improve and the erosion of all liberal social progress....while Egypt got rid of totalitarian rule, you like billionaires to rule over you.
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
@dalecampbl9
WTF are you talking about? You want the teachers unions to retain their rule over the taxpayer. You want to talk about totalitarian rule? Look no further that the union tax leeches. I don't want any of the services these public union have to offer, nor would I ever put a child in one to be indoctrinated.
arnobp 1 year ago
look no further than bail out banks who took our billions and converted them to bonuses..and how did they get htis hand out? because earlier they paid lots of money to push these pro billionaire politicians into office...and you blame the teacher's unions as if they have the ability to bring down the country's financial systems and then ask for and successfully receive billions in bail out? ARE YOU FUCKEN BLIND!!!!!!!!
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
@dalecampbl9 kill all union scum Banks will prevail HAHAHA
biggerturtle 1 year ago
the tea party might be made up of ignorants, but it's whole purpose is pretty much what HItler's SS did, to intimidate, to inspire people to shoot Giffords in the head, to talk non-sense 24/7 with the hopes that the middle class will be confused as to what the real perpetrator is. But the middle class aint stupid...we know...WE KNOW that millionaires and billionaires back the tea party, we know it's all propaganda and we know the GOV'T is made up of US for US, not for just the top 1%.
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
@dalecampbl9 You say that the tea party is based on intimidation.....what are you union THUGS led by the greatest intimidator (Richard Tumka) doing in Madison right now. This is the greatest show of intimidation now in our nation. Threatening the governor to do what you union THUGS want at the expense of the tax payers. We are a Democracy the Governor and Wisconsin lawmakers were voted in and are trying to balance a budget.
zzot2 1 year ago
has any union member every shot a congresswomen in the head? THUGS? what you expect anyone to buy that label? thugs!!? you ever live around thugs..you think you still be alive if you lived around thugs..if society was full of thugs at the work place? Typical GOP Fear Rhetoric...WMD...TERROR.. .THUGS...COMMUNISM...hoping that label with dubious meanings will cloud better judgment...we have the right to protest..it's constitutional...aren't you a tea party constitutional law expert?!
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
even the KKK can parade around and it's constitutional. let me tell you something, a lot of people in USA are complacent and they don't vote...but remember when you start messing with the very fundamental core of people's livelihoods and you let guys like Bernie Madoff work the system to embezzle so much money from hard working people, and then turn around and call the same hard working people "LAZY" that's a recipe to get thrown out....Walker purposefully screwed up the budget to do this
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
when Bush was wasting (happily, compellingly) wasting 3 trillion on a phony war in Iraq...and its fucken phoney because we have dictators everywhere...so why the fucke iraq...becuz we know it's not WMDs, beacuse we still haven't found any and we've bombed that place to shit. Where were the "tea party" guys when bush was wasting 3 trillion and THEN ADDING TRILLIONS IN tax...as if WARS magically fund themselves?!?!?! There were tea party, because the millionaires and billionaires didnt back them
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
in a DEMOCRACY if we dictate that no one gets rich then it's law...if we dictate that NO ONE gets to get rich selling phony derivatives or through a bubble economy..it's law...and how fears that? those who sell phoney derivatives, love to pollute hte weath and stymie electrical car developments, those who love to set up bubble economies...and those who buy our supreme court judges and politicians. people on here, esp, if you are a LIBERAL..go out and vote these fuckers out in next election
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
only in America are we so fat and stupid that we don't see...see that when a Radio pesonnnel like Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh gets paid ... MILLIONS JUST TO TALK...you know something is up...this can't be right? are they Jesus that they get this much money? no...they talk because they are the speakers for the RICH...the new oligarchy who like the nobles of France pre-Napoleon screwed that country to hell...but history repeats itself...and rich oligarchy wants to the do the same to USA.
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
the billionaires and millionaires like the KOCH brothers are scared as hell, they want to destroy democracy...if democracy dictates socialism then we are socilaist..no questions asked...that's why democracy is good, it's not a matter of debate, it's a matter of voting...and the billionaires know this, this is why they try SOOO hard to destroy the middle class wealth through a 3 trillion waste of a war, and erosion of all social progress..so they can remain in power and screw u in the ass more.
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
im a republican and a state employee in florida. I look at it as do the right thing and it seems my partry isn't doing what is right. Cut the spending take away welfare before you cut hard working citizens money and benefits.
k9rambo30 1 year ago
according to the GOP, if you don't work for minimum wage and work 60 hrs a week in dangerous work conditions...YOU AIN'T WORKING HARD ENOUGH...I mean...can you honestly not SEE THAT COMING SOON as the reason to take away all social progress in labor. America needs to purge itself of rich punks who think they are above democracy and the rule of honest/fair laws and this is a fight the GOP/Tea Faggets have taken to the middle class and the poor class. Class warfare is inevitable, wake up dude!!!
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
Sit down and talk like the democrats did with Health Care?????????? What a joke how soon we forget!!!!
MYVIDEOSROCKIFIED 1 year ago
Sit down and talk like the democrats did with Health Care?????????? What a joke how soon we forget!!!!
MYVIDEOSROCKIFIED 1 year ago
Union membership in this country is sinking faster than Teddy Kennedys car!
IP0Monsturd 1 year ago
Just wondering, where do these people expect the money to come from? Do they want the Peoples Taxes to Increase? Do they feel they are Entitled to have these Jobs and why don't they just quit if the job is no good?
rocksiphone 1 year ago
Yes they want everyone else to pay for them. They don't care where the money comes from. Just bankrupt the whole country so they can live comfortably. Rome is burning people. Hey people figure out how to manage money and live within you means!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't spend more than you make.
MYVIDEOSROCKIFIED 1 year ago
Taking and not giving... How about we get government workers to contribute to Social Security like the rest of us.
Or do we have some animals are more equal than others?
eklerr 1 year ago
creating derivatives and then getting rich off of it by hedging bets that the ECONOMY WILL TANK and then actually causing the economy to tank...that' sTAKING AND NOT GIVING. WHY DON'Y you screw your head on straight buddy.
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
"I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the public sector. A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government."President FDR
BlackRepublican2010 1 year ago
Richard Trumka is a thug communist union leader. He is also buddies with our wonderful Presdent. The two together will destroy this nation. All you brillent liberals please tell me what the Governor is suspose to do if Wisconsin is broke and can't pay their bills. Continue to pay you thugs even more money.....hell no. Thank God for the governor of Wisconsion!!!! The tea party will be in town to take you on and we will win because the people of the nation are on our side. Can't wait for 2012!
zzot2 1 year ago
zzot2 are you being paid by GOP or Tea Party groups to post so many posts on here?!?!?!
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
I own a small buisness and do you think I would ever hire union workers. Look no farther than Wisconsin. Thugs will run your business and if you don't like it to bad. Unions destroy what ever they touch. Do you wonder why companies send jobs overseas.......look no farther than Madison would you want these thugs working for you?
zzot2 1 year ago 9
@zzot2
I have some friends who ancestors were communist that came over here from Russia in the 1920's. Their goals were to set up and run unions. These unions were to bring down the West from within. They went to Detroit because at that time Detroit was the industrial might of the USA. think Henry Ford auto plants. They were successful. These unions and the corrupt Democrat politicians have destroyed Detroit. Look up any youtube of Detroit and see the abandon and burned out buildings.
frio109 1 year ago
@frio109 Unions are totally based off of a marxist ideology. Everyone gets paid the same, so it doesn't matter how hard you work you will get paid the same. So what do we have...union workers that do as little of work as possible and want maiximum pay and benefits....and this my friends is what we have in Wisconsin and is the face of the Democratic party. If you truely do want to save America you will fight agaisnt unions.
zzot2 1 year ago
@zzot2 I totally agree, I hate Unions and communist. I have seen what they have done to this country.
frio109 1 year ago
hey dude when you are 50 and can no longer compete against me, I'm gonna fucken gut your wealth and steal all your money...."legally" of course through faulty invest schemes you can't see coming even if it was right in front of your eyes...and then don't go crying about communists...go cry at your stupidity for a purely "survival of the fittest" country. if you want to talk the talk....u better walk the walk...you act like some haughty ass punk with your high in the air...wait until u get it
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
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@zzot2
there are roughly 355,000 union members in wisconsin. let's say they all have one million dollars in net worth which is a high estimate. think about it, one million? that would make their worth around 355 million dollars.
the net worth of the koch brothers is about 17.5 billion dollars
scott walker's net worth is about 100 million. this one individual has almost 1/3 the high estimate worth of the wis union members.
you wanna call the unions a bunch of thugs.
BULLSHIT!
sk8bow 1 year ago
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@zzot2
well i have my own business too! does that mean i want to go into unions? maybe later if i'm successful enough, i would definitely look into it. i would probably make a cooperative. i'm not into keeping all the wealth like these nutty billionaires and their puppet politicians.
i was in a union and i was subject to being fired, but in the end, my managers and i learned how to work together.
I'M FOR THE UNIONS!
sk8bow 1 year ago
don't hire anyone, just hire illegals and pay them 1 dollar an hr and work them 80 hrs a week, I bet you like that huh?
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
@zzot2 Fire the unions.
frio109 1 year ago
fuck conservatives...they are nothing but party for the ultra rich oligarchies...things dont work because corrupt fuckers who have too much money like Madoff think they are above democracy and above the law. we should shoot those guys. i'm serious
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
@dalecampbl9 What you should have said is that Liberals are useful idiots for Communist.
frio109 1 year ago
Every Conservative person in the United States that can go to Wisconsin to protest these Union THUGs should go. This is ground zero if Obama and his union henchmen THUGs get their way over the WILLL of th PEOPLE they will do this in every state and America will be finished. This will be a civil war.
zzot2 1 year ago
u are nothing but a corporate paid scumbag who is on here writing lies. you want to worship the rich? i want to worship democracy. and democracy demands UNIONS.
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
@dalecampbl9 No I own a small business and if my workers ever formed a union I would close my business before the unions destroyed it and I had to file bankrupcy. Please name one industry where unions haven't destroyed it or they are now subsidised by the federal government. These isn't one, they destroyed the Auto industry, the airline industry (except southwest that isn't union) is broke, states can't pay public sector unions such as Wisconsin, union are the scurge of the earth.
zzot2 1 year ago
sounds and looks like he went to the public school,time to home school your kids, or pay a teacher ,or send to private school,no more taxpayers money for unions
MrOne4truth 1 year ago
Andrew looks VERY chic in that red bandanna.
pedro97w 1 year ago
This governor was elected by you citizen of Wisconsin. You guys like so many in this country wanted changes in governement. Now since the changes dose not favor you unions folks at all, you guys go out protesting like spoil brats You guys should be kicking youself stupid for voting this crazy right tea bagger in the first place. This just the beginning for the fight for the middle class family. Stay the course people!!
mazillo311 1 year ago
All this is NOT about their pay - it's about thier universal right to organize.
I think most of the demonstrants are ok with some parts in the bill - but banning teacher-unions? No way!
This bill is 100% anti-democracy!
ShinjukuHH 1 year ago
@ShinjukuHH Of course it's anti-democracy. The Republicans of today hate democracy, because people have equal rights in democracy. They think democracy is synonymous with communism. They prefer a system in which a person's power is entirely determined by the amount of money they have. And since a totally unregulated market inevitably concentrates most wealth in the hands of the few, this produces a society where a few people wield all the power.
We are moving - quickly - towards fascism.
melosebrainuhoh 1 year ago
rich hate democracy because they know they are only 2% of the vote...that's why GOP have been trying to weaken education and bankrupt the treasury (3 trillion into Iraq)...more costs to enroll into public universities. it's amazing, they are so successful. Americans need to realize that, it is possible to live a GOOD LIFE without having to work for minimum wage and working 80 hr weeks...it's called threatening the rich with CARING about DEMOCRACY
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
give us more money we can sweep floors!!! lol country is doomed, nation of takers!!
acup79 1 year ago
Great opportunity for Wisconsin to reduce it's budget. ..
FIRE EVERY ONE OF THESE PUKES.
pedro97w 1 year ago
yes the old neo con lol god man a rep who votes dem please think about the neocon issue lol
393cj 1 year ago
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what a putz is this guy a union man ? ahh the budget deal there bitching about is down the road
393cj 1 year ago
what a putz is this guy a union man ? ahh the budget deal there bitching about is down the road
393cj 1 year ago
If the teachers don't want to start contributing to their health care and pensions then it is time to start firing them and their communist unions.
frio109 1 year ago
@frio109 Do you people not keep up on the news??? Just wondering! They offered the 12% to pay for healthcare and they offered the 5% of their pay. That is what they wanted after all because they "say" it's all about money. Now they offered the money but wanted to keep their right to collective bargain and the governer said nope! So really it's not about the money. They could have offered to give up the collective bargaining and keep the money and it would have been done. Pay attention!
rodzmen1 1 year ago
@rodzmen1 If the teachers had offer it then this would be over. FIRE THEM
frio109 1 year ago
@frio109 Thank God we have unions that protect from people that think like you is all I have to say. I'm not even going to debate someone who wouldn't care if the truth kicked them in the ass. Your reasoning makes no sense at all. You are a chearleader for big corporation the richest of the rich that are still taking money even though it's not there. You people on the right wont' be happy even when this country is run like Walmart. Then you will just find something else to fuck up.
rodzmen1 1 year ago
This is an economic Patriot Act Bill. Deny the citizens their rights because the govt claims it needs more control due to economic chaos. Give up your rights for security, give up your rights due to State fiscal irresponsibility, next give up your rights to freely marry and have children. The govt will need to regulate who can procreate. NEVER relinquish any right. To do so, you endanger all rights.
Aluminumatti 1 year ago
we are the "GOVT' you moron...anyone in America who doesn't believe they were given a right to be a part of the gov't should get deported...if you are communist you are a part of the gov't, if you are a corporate fascist like GOP is you are also a party of hte gov't ... if u think of the GOV'T as some "third party entity" off in the distance you are a true IDIOT and you deserve to go through K -12 all over again for free. Morons. As part of gov't we vote, and "communists" win. SO be it.
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
All they have to do is study the economics, and how free market system works, and all the libs who say they love freedom will have a better understanding. then libs will be a free market supporters. They can study how the big government taxation works against property owners, and libs will be free market supporters.
macdogq 1 year ago
anyone who is against the protesters are not awake to what is really going on.
tuubydude 1 year ago 2
@tuubydude I'm against this protest, because unions under the government programs, and schools should be demolished, because the public should be able to decide on their tax dollars. Love it , hate it. truth be told.
macdogq 1 year ago
@macdogq Your against peoples fundamental rights because the govt misspent money they owed to people so now they don't want to pay? That is screwed up on so many levels.
tuubydude 1 year ago
@tuubydude Let us cut taxes, and people would have more control of their dollars.
macdogq 1 year ago
@macdogq This is not part of the educators creed.Increased taxation seems to be more in line with thier goals.
Pomiferous 1 year ago
@macdogq Agreed. Limited govt works best. it keeps the people from being enslaved and allows them the ability to prosper though their own efforts.
tuubydude 1 year ago
@tuubydude The founding fathers were almost to a man against big government. Adams publish "Thoughts on Government" in 1776 that if a Continental government was formed that it should sacredly be confined to certain enumerated powers.
frio109 1 year ago
@macdogq Again! Pay attention! It's not about the money. Your neocon heros want them to give up their rights. They already offered the money but wanted to keep their rights to collective bargaining. Your tea baggin hero governor said no. Now had they offered to give up their rights and keep the money he would have jumped on it like flies on shit. If you got your news from more than one freaking station you would know theis things.
rodzmen1 1 year ago
@tuubydude Fire the protestors. Why should they keep demanding that taxpayers pay for THEIR health care and pensions. They can pay like everyone else. If they don't like it? Fire them and their communist unions.
frio109 1 year ago
@frio109 Talk to me in 20 years when you have a little life experience.
tuubydude 1 year ago
@tuubydude Please fill us in on all the specific details involved...
Pomiferous 1 year ago
The right for Average Americans to not lose their homes from increasing property taxes should be a right as well ... Thank you Gov. Walker ... you are doing a great thing for the private sector!
ben5017 1 year ago
"It was the tip of the iceburg." I put my pizza down, called my mom and dad for some gas money, because I'm an RA and that's not really a job, and I came down to show my support. I mean, we have to stand up. I'm a social arts major and I need someone to take care of me when my parents refuse to pay my bills any longer.
jamm830 1 year ago 30
@jamm830 I want to live off of Obama money and sleep on the couch. That has to be a human right, right?
frio109 1 year ago
& if it wasn't for shop Stewards you would be A used Tampon!
hardcorenyc 1 year ago
Andrew looks like the lazy son/nephew/son-in-law of a shop steward. There was an "Andrew" in every union shop I worked in.
IP0Monsturd 1 year ago