Makes total sense; however, finding this average for different bullets is troubling. I suspect each bullet weight may as to the seating depth. That said, is using an average that might very 1 to 3 thousandths acceptable for bench shooting, and if so, how or why? Why not treat each weight with the same consideration for distance, as the bolt never changes, why use an average? That's puzzling to me...lol Please respond, as we eagerly await an answer.
So you only want to turn the lock ring slightly each time you put your die back in the press, resize, and recheck your brass in the chamber. Only move the ring about 2-4mm each time and you can probably get 0.001 or .002" accuracy. I use this method to set the shoulder bump as well as seating the bullet depth.
@tcombest Thanks for the quick reply! I'm using unfired brass but I'm pretty sure I need to bump the shoulder. I just ordered a Redding body die to do the bumping, so I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks again.
@tcombest Also using a comparator to measure shoulder length, my fired cases come out to 1.6240 and with my Die bottoming out on the shellholder with unfired brass the most I can bump it back is 1.6210. Am I supposed to FL resize before using the body die to bump the shoulder? thanks!
So you only want to turn it slightly each time you resize and recheck the brass in your chamber. I use this method to figure out the correct bump on my shoulders as well as the correct seating depth of the bullet. You will be amazed at the accuracy you can get by using this method.
Most likely yes. If this is fired brass, your shoulders are probably blown all the way forward. At this point, it is a great time for you to set your shoulder bump. You can back out your die that you use to adjust the bump, then resize and see if it is still tight. Then, go in slightly with your die and recheck. I try and bump my shoulders about .002". You can get that accuracy with this method. Every full turn of your die locknut is about .040". So you only want to turn it slightly each time y
I'm trying this method with my firing pin removed and my bolt is loose like yours without a round in the chamber, but when I put a round in, it never gets loose. I even tried it with just the brass with no bullet in it and my bolt never free falls like yours does. Is it because I need to push the necks on my cases back or something? thanks.
I haven't directly compared. I use a Bat action. With the firing pin removed, it is just so easy to FEEL .001". The Hornady may be fine. It just didn't seem to give .001" consistency for me. I'm not trying to knock Hornady.
Have you compared results with your method here with the results using the Hornady gauge using the same bullet? Just curious. By the way, great video. I really enjoyed watching it.
Yes. I own a Hornady gauge. I've always questioned the accuracy of the gauge and you need a threaded brass for each caliber you shoot. I shoot about 8 different calibers. My method also works extremely well (.001 thousandth) for determining shoulder bump. You just have to find what method you feel most comfortable with.
I understand this process is for match grade ammo with precise headspace chambering. BUT,.... I have a 7.62N chambered bolt action rifle. If I load a .308WIN FMJ 145gr bullet. Will it fit? I dont want to discuss chamber pressures because I spoke about CUP vs PSI for hours, only to find the bullets are pretty much the same. I just want to know if .308headspace will fit in a 7.62n Bolt action rifle.I understand the opposite direction you get headspace issues. 7.62N rnd in a .308 rifle.
why the firing-pin removal, other than safety of course. I would think the shell-ejector (on rem-700) would interfere also, it has a heavy spring... Now I have to figure out how to do this on a savage...
That is a good and interesting technique that I have not seen before, but I am going to certainly try it. Good clear explanantion - thank you for sharing.
Makes total sense; however, finding this average for different bullets is troubling. I suspect each bullet weight may as to the seating depth. That said, is using an average that might very 1 to 3 thousandths acceptable for bench shooting, and if so, how or why? Why not treat each weight with the same consideration for distance, as the bolt never changes, why use an average? That's puzzling to me...lol Please respond, as we eagerly await an answer.
Kindly said
1LonePuma 1 month ago
So you only want to turn the lock ring slightly each time you put your die back in the press, resize, and recheck your brass in the chamber. Only move the ring about 2-4mm each time and you can probably get 0.001 or .002" accuracy. I use this method to set the shoulder bump as well as seating the bullet depth.
tcombest 2 months ago
@tcombest Thanks for the quick reply! I'm using unfired brass but I'm pretty sure I need to bump the shoulder. I just ordered a Redding body die to do the bumping, so I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks again.
Srzbiznz 2 months ago
@tcombest Also using a comparator to measure shoulder length, my fired cases come out to 1.6240 and with my Die bottoming out on the shellholder with unfired brass the most I can bump it back is 1.6210. Am I supposed to FL resize before using the body die to bump the shoulder? thanks!
Srzbiznz 1 month ago
@Srzbiznz oh yeah and even at the 1.6210 length, with no bullet in the chamber I still can get my bolt to free fall like yours.....
Srzbiznz 1 month ago
So you only want to turn it slightly each time you resize and recheck the brass in your chamber. I use this method to figure out the correct bump on my shoulders as well as the correct seating depth of the bullet. You will be amazed at the accuracy you can get by using this method.
tcombest 2 months ago
My previous message got cut off....
tcombest 2 months ago
Most likely yes. If this is fired brass, your shoulders are probably blown all the way forward. At this point, it is a great time for you to set your shoulder bump. You can back out your die that you use to adjust the bump, then resize and see if it is still tight. Then, go in slightly with your die and recheck. I try and bump my shoulders about .002". You can get that accuracy with this method. Every full turn of your die locknut is about .040". So you only want to turn it slightly each time y
tcombest 2 months ago
I'm trying this method with my firing pin removed and my bolt is loose like yours without a round in the chamber, but when I put a round in, it never gets loose. I even tried it with just the brass with no bullet in it and my bolt never free falls like yours does. Is it because I need to push the necks on my cases back or something? thanks.
Srzbiznz 2 months ago
I haven't directly compared. I use a Bat action. With the firing pin removed, it is just so easy to FEEL .001". The Hornady may be fine. It just didn't seem to give .001" consistency for me. I'm not trying to knock Hornady.
tcombest 2 months ago
Have you compared results with your method here with the results using the Hornady gauge using the same bullet? Just curious. By the way, great video. I really enjoyed watching it.
gilream 2 months ago
Yes. I own a Hornady gauge. I've always questioned the accuracy of the gauge and you need a threaded brass for each caliber you shoot. I shoot about 8 different calibers. My method also works extremely well (.001 thousandth) for determining shoulder bump. You just have to find what method you feel most comfortable with.
tcombest 2 months ago
Have you tried the Hornady OAL gauge? Makes all of this very quick.
joewaco 2 months ago
Thanks for the video, this helps us newbies!
masterkick 2 months ago
I'm a newbie reloader and didn't have a clue on how deep to seat the bullet. Thank you. Good vid!!
jm2588 3 months ago
PS,....sweet rifle!
doomsdaymachine619 3 months ago
I understand this process is for match grade ammo with precise headspace chambering. BUT,.... I have a 7.62N chambered bolt action rifle. If I load a .308WIN FMJ 145gr bullet. Will it fit? I dont want to discuss chamber pressures because I spoke about CUP vs PSI for hours, only to find the bullets are pretty much the same. I just want to know if .308headspace will fit in a 7.62n Bolt action rifle.I understand the opposite direction you get headspace issues. 7.62N rnd in a .308 rifle.
doomsdaymachine619 3 months ago
nice work man cheers i will try that good job
123pekoe69 4 months ago
nice video lots of info there thank you!!!!
trappingnut41mt 4 months ago
Love the calibre and that bullet seating method. Nice video of a very nice setup.
shootNbreeze 5 months ago
why the firing-pin removal, other than safety of course. I would think the shell-ejector (on rem-700) would interfere also, it has a heavy spring... Now I have to figure out how to do this on a savage...
67dodgepolara 8 months ago
hey ,nice video!
can you tell me please how to extract the projectile from the brase?
thanks
akhladi2 9 months ago
@akhladi2 .... get a bullet puller
drummerlars 9 months ago
I've seen and read about several methods but I like this one best.
gmoore9449 11 months ago
that was great! thanks so much!
Manzgear 1 year ago
Good video, thanks for the help.
mtroutbum 1 year ago
That is a good and interesting technique that I have not seen before, but I am going to certainly try it. Good clear explanantion - thank you for sharing.
Lightyear66 1 year ago
Great way to set seating depth. Thanks for the info. Well done. Well spoken. A real help.
vintagesportsman 1 year ago