what do you mean? He would have agreed more with ron pauls views than the other republican candidates thats for sure. I don't know what mentzer felt about foreign policy, but the whole free market ideas would have been spot on.
@steroidsR4fantastic You're right on the topic of free market. Sorry if I came off a bit cross, I just thought Mike could have been compared better to a different republican. (Yes, one that has a better foreign policy)
no, its fine. While i don't agree 100% of what Ron Paul says, he is the only republican running for president that actually follows the US constitution, so he will get my vote anyway.
Just out of general curiosity, what republican would you compare Mike Mentzer to?
Natulas machines are arguably the best and safest machines to work out on. Through yes you have to have the free weights but certain isolation moves are great.
I spoke to Boyer Coe via email and he stated that he couldn't put any weight on doing an Arthur Jones style HIT routine. He went back home and altered the routine slightly, adding more warm-up sets, and slowing the whole routine down so that he could put a greater effort into each working set. Doing this he gained weight.
Mike was into HLIT,which is good to use for a month or two when training,but, using HLIT as a steady diet per se, doesn`t work. The muscles have to be shocked all the time and that means knowing what your body is capable of when working out. Mike and Rays demise was really very sad for the entire BB community..
@dianabol75 That's actually incorrect. Neither died of heart attacks and both were off steroids for two decades at the time of death. I live in L.A. and the coroner investigated both deaths because they happened within 2 days. Mike died of "natural causes", but was a known substance abuser and suffered from bipolar disorder. Ray was on dialysis before he died due to a high protein intake bb'ers do to keep size. Ray probably died of deep depression knowing his caretaker (Mike) was gone. RIP
@ozwaldp Rumour for years was that Mike had been an amphetamine user through the 80's but I would have thought he was long off this stuff at the time of his death. Didn't know he was bipolar.
Spoke to him 15 years ago over the phone, absolute gentleman.
@dianabol75 there you go stating your facts that you think you know. just because they have died of heart attacks and steroids have been linked to heart disease so has a million other things. you have no proof of that claim of the fact that steroids gave them heart attacks. did you know that mike was a hardcore alcoholic also? and 2 brothers just happened to die of heart attacks? millions of people take juice but 2 brothers die of the same thing?
MrDecaPrick (Farshad86). Can't keep making up accounts and giving yourself thumbs up on your stupid youtube posts. Too bad stupidty isn't painful. Would you like a tylenol, idiot?
IM DESPERATE FOR A GIRL (OR GUY) TO TAKE AWAY MY VIRGINITY, check out my profile siteflirtbox.co.uk/dating/neilp77.html IMA NERDY FUCK, NEVER HAD ANY MUSCLES, NEVER MET ANY OF THE BODYBUILDERS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, IM A LIER, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
LLevo entrenando 20 años y las pocas veces que he usado maquinas nautilus apenas sentía nada y cuando subía el peso me lesionaba. No permiten la libertad de articulaciones que se tiene con los pesos libres. Pero no me extraña de Mentzer, era un tipo que se creía un pastor con ideas innovadoras que quiso hacerlas doctrinas tirando métodos de entrenamiento probados como el de Arnold por la borda. Se suele decir que cada uno tiene lo que merece
@char19822 No, he moved on to be the greatest mind in bodybuilding. Why would he continue competing for an organization that would rip you off. Look at 1981 Mr. O. after the so-called Arnold win. It's a total rip off too.
@Naturalhit I never said it wasn't a rip off, but I think you're forgetting about the amphetamines, running naked through the streets, end of world prophecies etc, look it up. I imagine this is why in his later years he looks a lot older than late forties and in terrible shape.
@char19822 Amphetamines yes is true. But running naked thru. the streets & world prophecies were false. Mike talked about that &mentioned how people (relation to Weider) made stories about him, including Dr. Darden about certain behaviors. Mike had himself committed in order to get better. But all this was due to the fact his mother died, his relationship w/ Ray was bismal & he broke up with his long time girlfriend, Kathy. But in a couple of years he was working for Iron Man mag.
@Dw9033 Mike may have been very upset after the decision in 1980. Now Arnold is the Governor of my state after Gray davis was recalled. The only problem is Arnold lost "Total Recall" of what he promised to do. Now my state is in a worse spot than it was financially , before he(Arnold ) was elected. He also admitted to leaving the state worse off, than before he was elected
yeah my gym has sojme of the old equipment the problem is well its just not as good as the new stuff i meen some of the old stuff is great but the new gym equipment is better there is more testing with them now days i think
Ive got the duo-squat, pullover and a few others at home.they are the best machines ever built. the duo squat, totally destroys your legs, its amazing, plus it works your heart too.
I live between a gym that uses Medx and one that has a lot of Hammer Strength. I am pretty lucky but, I need to hit the lotto and build the ultimate old school gym.
Cardio is useless for maintaining a healthy heart. To maintain a healthy heart you must challenge your muscles with high intensity training to challenge the cardiovascular system. I'm firmly against steroid use for myself as I am natural but there is no evidence to suggest steroids cause heart disease or heart attacks! Pro bodybuilders just do whatever their doc or trainer tells them to do. Most bodybuilders have serious heart conditions because of the excessive amounts of animal protein intake.
good point Dack. mentzer was addicted to many drugs, sufferd depression and many other problems.
steroids, for a part are safe, if used correctly. any abuse with anything is not safe, the required amount of steroids and stress on the heart than body builders go though, will more than likely shorten their life a vast ammount. Mentzer belived cardio was only to be done to rid 'excess fat', in that, he only did it prior to a show. Pros recomment cardio alongside weight training to help the heart.
Gregjocka22 - It's spelled 'tons' not "tonnes." Secondly, you start a new sentence with a CAPITAL letter, so Lay off the steriods stupid. Thirdly, as you have no idea about my physique how could you possibly know I am fat?
Finally, far too many pro-bodybuilders have had major heart surgery or died from serious health complications long before their time. Steriods and other physique enhancing substances will kill or ruin you sooner or later. Pro-bodybuilding is nothing more than a cult.
@bgibb101 haha you fucking argue with everyone, i think you are bullshitting about your "rich varied life" if your life was so fruitful you wouldnt be here having petty arguments with everyone and anyone. you do not have a science degree nor are you good looking, your a little geeky fat 52 year old professional TROLL! go eat some 'twinkies' or whatever u obese americans eat when ur trolling lol
@MorganDistortion - Thanks for proving just what a total loser you are. You cannot even answer me without throwing abuse and false accusations at me. Unless you have something intelligent to say, stay off the Internet and get a life.
@bgibb101 I'm not the one starting arguments with innocent people on youtube. all i did was put a nice comment on a video and you called me a whore for it
What exactly are you trying to do? Prove steroids are safe? Arnold had heart surgery too. Steroids are quite safe despite some side effects that are common, like testicular atrophy and hair loss. Steroid ABUSE is not safe, like the extremes that bodybuilders subject themselves to. And there is no debating that.
not quite true mike did a lot of other drugs and had personal stresses in life however steroids come and go and I am sure that wont have helped too ray had a genetic disorder again steroids dont help you out long term so your kinda right as to why they died they could have lived longer if wasnt fo the other drugs and personal issues but I think they would have had heart surgery too later on
what is up with all these people freekin out over steroid use?if you dont use steroids, good for you. if you do, good for you. if it works for you and it makes you feel healthy and strong then how can someone say to you it is wrong.its your life and your health do as you wish. dont listen to these manipulators, all they want to do is controll you. always remember all there power cant controll your mind unless you let it.
The best thing in life is health be yourself Players!
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look at the size of these guys,,and you think they use steroids,,you fucking asshole..ive seen bricklayers with bigger arms than these ,,"top bodybuilders",,,you need to get yourself a hobby ya smarmy bastard. ... dot dot dot,,
I love how these steroid-using losers always are in denial over deaths due to performance-enhancing drugs. I knew the Mentzer brother, Andreas Munzer and other bodybuilders who died young, and it WAS due to their steroid use.
Steroids are no where near as big as a problem as tobacco and alcohol. Im not saying that steroids CANT kill someone because they can. They dont kill as many people as the mainstreem media would want us to think. Need I remind you that bodybuilders take tons of shit, ranging from weight loss diuretics to drugs to dull the pain of overtraining to stuff for their blood lipid levels and all kinds of stuff. Im not trying to start an argument with you just an old fashion calm discussion.
ya' know...i hope you don't drink coffee or take aspirin or anything... but there is an old expression: "build a thousand bridges, suck one dick...you're not a bridge builder, you're dick sucker." you're hypocricy is that you watch these videos...
Get your facts straight first. I don't drink coffee. I sometimes use asprin if I have a headache. That's not cheating...I'm not suppose to have a headache, that wouldn't be normal. Also, I don't watch the videos...I leave comments. Nice try though. Good effort on trying to justify the use of steroids. Have fun cheating with steroids. BTW, we are still going to leave our messages. I'm really sorry that I have convicted you of your steroids use. Have a nice day.:)
Yeah...but in this video...boyer and mike are clearly off the juice....so how are they cheaters in this particular video?.....you slipped up this time steroidsr4losers.LOL
Firstly, they died within 36 hours of each other. Secondly, Ray had systemic multiple organ failure and was undergoing twice weekly dialysis and had Berger's disease, a blood clotting disorder. Mike had both chronic (BP & heart problems which both his father and grandfather had) and acute cardiac problems ie. he died of a heart attack. In terms of drug use, steroids would have played a minor part in his death, but not as much as being a smoker and his previous (heavy) amphetamine use.
What do you mean 'without any chronic diesease'? lol
If you knew anything about the Mentzers you'd know that they both suffered from the same genetic heart defect which killed their father, and ultimately them. This has all been officially recorded by the way, and conclusively agreed that steroids had nothing to do with it.
Well, that is what you would like to believe. However, similar to how Andreas Meunzer died a few years ago, only insiders know that both of these guy's organs started to fail due to steroid abuse.
steroids are not the only way to get in bodybuilder shape, plus they give you boobies. i just wanted to shed that hope for those who may be discouraged when they hear about steroids and how rampant the drug is supposedly gaining popularity. steroids are not the only way, and contrary to popular belief neither is working out for 2 hours a day. stimulate and shock the body for growth and get out of the gym. dont try to impress anybody with heavy weight, go for technique, then its about calories
Bodybuilding and going to the gym is something I've done since I was 16 and I'm 47 now. I have known many bodybuilders and it seems those who used anabolics and had to stop drop by the wayside. I spoke to Ian Dowe a Mr Universe winner and when he had to stop the juice and go natural he found it too much. He had been propped up by the juice for so long that without it he had no desire to train. Train natural and you can stay looking good into your 60's.
Here's a problem with Mike...if short and infrequent workouts were the way to go, then why did he look like crap for the last 10-15 years of his life? Why couldn't he find any time to train, even for 15 minutes?
From what I understand he had back surgery where his spine got infused. He has assistance that assist him with lifting things. Plus he got into a bad habit of smoking. He made it clear to Ironman in 1993 that he wants to be the one that does the research. Sort of like actors turn to directing a film instead of being in it.
i think the way to look at it is the same as if ur always doing suming (and bodybuilding ur thinking and doing pritty much all the time) and ur doing it for how long most pro's do it for then wen u retire u pritty much wud of had enough of it, look at arnie he looks terrible now and has done for ages, the only reason he was okay a while ago was cuz of films if he wasn't in them i expect he wudn't of been in a good shape
but yea i think any1 wud jus be like fuck it i had enough of that now
Here you can clearly see the mesomorphic rating of the Mentzers versus Boyer Coe - Mike and Boyer off the juice and look at their respective appearance. Coe is relatively stringy in appearance with an average structure and much less muscle density. The same Boyer Coe that was placed one ahead of Mike in the Sydney fiasco, yet thought he was hard done by...
He was hard done by. Watch him hit a side chest pose right next to Arnold. You can clearly see striations all over him while Arnold looked smooth. Why even compare Boyer to Mike anyway? They were both hard done by when looking at Arnold's condition. Besides, I thought they placed equally, anyhow. One more thing, you compare the Boyer of this video to Mike in this video, they are both far from their contest shapes. Back off, hater.
Ok - poor forearms, turtle-shell back, no quad outer sweep, poor abs, poor basic structure (compared to Mentzer anyway)not in the same league. Clearly mesomorph/ectomorph.
Boyer seems a decent guy but he has structural faults, and placed better than those sans, on several occassions. That is not hating kid, merely pointing out the obvious. Come back in 15 or 20 years when you actually KNOW something about bodybuilding...
well,my friends,this is the truth,what they say,not by chance they became champions...
kovacsarpad1990 2 months ago
Mike and Ray each died not that far apart if I remember correctly? Fricking steroids from when they were younger?
johnnykov 4 months ago
do this guys have sex whist training any one knows pls inbox me @ remmyjay0@yahoo.co.uk
Idele2 6 months ago
Boyer is off from roids in this video..
stwe132 7 months ago
When Mentzer lost in the Olympia in 1980, California also lost it's chance to have him as a Governor.
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I'm helping to expose the pussys that use steroids and other drugs!
Keep it clean!
steroidsR4pussys 8 months ago
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lol Mentzer would have kicked ass as governor, he would have been like a Ron Paul type politician
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@steroidsR4fantastic Yeah agreed :-) What you just said makes me want to train to failure.
kamagong78 4 months ago
@steroidsR4fantastic If Mike were around today he would not agree with Ron Paul at all... have you even studied either one's views?
HeroOfTimeO0 2 months ago
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what do you mean? He would have agreed more with ron pauls views than the other republican candidates thats for sure. I don't know what mentzer felt about foreign policy, but the whole free market ideas would have been spot on.
steroidsR4fantastic 1 month ago
@steroidsR4fantastic You're right on the topic of free market. Sorry if I came off a bit cross, I just thought Mike could have been compared better to a different republican. (Yes, one that has a better foreign policy)
HeroOfTimeO0 1 month ago
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no, its fine. While i don't agree 100% of what Ron Paul says, he is the only republican running for president that actually follows the US constitution, so he will get my vote anyway.
Just out of general curiosity, what republican would you compare Mike Mentzer to?
steroidsR4fantastic 1 month ago
hate these machines, its free weights all day long for me.
freqeist 10 months ago
Natulas machines are arguably the best and safest machines to work out on. Through yes you have to have the free weights but certain isolation moves are great.
Bigturns33 7 months ago
RIP, Mike, and Ray.
ftsjr 11 months ago
i did one set a month of each work out and i gained 10 pounds, i dunno why everyone is slating this tactic
sciencestudent342 1 year ago
What did Arnold do in his last week ???
jericho890 1 year ago
could you post the whole video?
1Grosvenor3 1 year ago
should be called: toeing the Nautilus line
RexConCueso 1 year ago
look at the guy at 00:1 LOL
aleksankazakov 1 year ago
@aleksankazakov dont you know who ray and mike menter are
AllanHable 1 year ago
@aleksankazakov dont you know who ray and mike menter are it was mike mentzer former olimpia
AllanHable 1 year ago
Was this from Arthur Jone's ill fated "Nautilus Television Studios"?
faffaflunkie 1 year ago
off the cycle
101Hitman 1 year ago
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nahatej 1 year ago
Thank you for posting this video. Boyer Coe looks nothing like his still pictures in magazines, he has a really beautiful face.
darlinkula1 1 year ago
man Ray and Mike look almost liek twins.you can barely tell them apart.lol
SpinDoctor91 1 year ago
такие долбоебы
MrDonGeorgeO 1 year ago
I spoke to Boyer Coe via email and he stated that he couldn't put any weight on doing an Arthur Jones style HIT routine. He went back home and altered the routine slightly, adding more warm-up sets, and slowing the whole routine down so that he could put a greater effort into each working set. Doing this he gained weight.
xanthromera 1 year ago
Mike was into HLIT,which is good to use for a month or two when training,but, using HLIT as a steady diet per se, doesn`t work. The muscles have to be shocked all the time and that means knowing what your body is capable of when working out. Mike and Rays demise was really very sad for the entire BB community..
realestatefla1 1 year ago
@dianabol75 take away steroids and of all the elite world athletes of all sports would be nothing...
shazam679 1 year ago
@shazam679 yES THAT WOLD BE FUKKING INTERESTIN!
saltfan2 1 year ago
@dianabol75 That's actually incorrect. Neither died of heart attacks and both were off steroids for two decades at the time of death. I live in L.A. and the coroner investigated both deaths because they happened within 2 days. Mike died of "natural causes", but was a known substance abuser and suffered from bipolar disorder. Ray was on dialysis before he died due to a high protein intake bb'ers do to keep size. Ray probably died of deep depression knowing his caretaker (Mike) was gone. RIP
ozwaldp 1 year ago
@ozwaldp Rumour for years was that Mike had been an amphetamine user through the 80's but I would have thought he was long off this stuff at the time of his death. Didn't know he was bipolar.
Spoke to him 15 years ago over the phone, absolute gentleman.
xanthromera 1 year ago
Bullsh*t
a68rebel 1 year ago
@dianabol75 HAHA!!! get out of here.
afterthefact15 1 year ago
@dianabol75 there you go stating your facts that you think you know. just because they have died of heart attacks and steroids have been linked to heart disease so has a million other things. you have no proof of that claim of the fact that steroids gave them heart attacks. did you know that mike was a hardcore alcoholic also? and 2 brothers just happened to die of heart attacks? millions of people take juice but 2 brothers die of the same thing?
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neilp77 1 year ago
does anybody know anything about the background music in this video? I prettya muc enjoy it
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MrDeca86 1 year ago
hi,
i have some of these machines in working order at my nz gym and fitness centre.
ive also done hit,h/d and art jones systems.
MrHeavyDutynz 1 year ago
LLevo entrenando 20 años y las pocas veces que he usado maquinas nautilus apenas sentía nada y cuando subía el peso me lesionaba. No permiten la libertad de articulaciones que se tiene con los pesos libres. Pero no me extraña de Mentzer, era un tipo que se creía un pastor con ideas innovadoras que quiso hacerlas doctrinas tirando métodos de entrenamiento probados como el de Arnold por la borda. Se suele decir que cada uno tiene lo que merece
gorkoleman 1 year ago
Boyer is totally totally totally OFF-SHAPE in this clip.
melkiemelkie 2 years ago 3
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rafalweb 2 years ago
mike look so good here! why did he retire so early? injury i heard? he looks tremendous here. wow
Dw9033 2 years ago
@Dw9033 No, he lost his marbles after losing to Schwarzenegger.
char19822 1 year ago
@char19822 No, he moved on to be the greatest mind in bodybuilding. Why would he continue competing for an organization that would rip you off. Look at 1981 Mr. O. after the so-called Arnold win. It's a total rip off too.
Naturalhit 1 year ago
@Naturalhit I never said it wasn't a rip off, but I think you're forgetting about the amphetamines, running naked through the streets, end of world prophecies etc, look it up. I imagine this is why in his later years he looks a lot older than late forties and in terrible shape.
char19822 1 year ago
@char19822 Amphetamines yes is true. But running naked thru. the streets & world prophecies were false. Mike talked about that &mentioned how people (relation to Weider) made stories about him, including Dr. Darden about certain behaviors. Mike had himself committed in order to get better. But all this was due to the fact his mother died, his relationship w/ Ray was bismal & he broke up with his long time girlfriend, Kathy. But in a couple of years he was working for Iron Man mag.
Naturalhit 1 year ago
@Dw9033 Mike may have been very upset after the decision in 1980. Now Arnold is the Governor of my state after Gray davis was recalled. The only problem is Arnold lost "Total Recall" of what he promised to do. Now my state is in a worse spot than it was financially , before he(Arnold ) was elected. He also admitted to leaving the state worse off, than before he was elected
Dakers11 1 year ago
i wonder if we can still get these equipments somewhere.
simkeith 2 years ago
yeah my gym has sojme of the old equipment the problem is well its just not as good as the new stuff i meen some of the old stuff is great but the new gym equipment is better there is more testing with them now days i think
daleyy1234 2 years ago
Ive got the duo-squat, pullover and a few others at home.they are the best machines ever built. the duo squat, totally destroys your legs, its amazing, plus it works your heart too.
coomohit 2 years ago
You have a goldmine at your house then! I have always loved the earlier Nautilus machines.
uncleavi2002 2 years ago
Yup! get a real buzz out of using these machines!
coomohit 2 years ago
I have used them myself back in the day.
I live between a gym that uses Medx and one that has a lot of Hammer Strength. I am pretty lucky but, I need to hit the lotto and build the ultimate old school gym.
uncleavi2002 2 years ago
Medx is the best.Most of the hammer is prety good too.
coomohit 2 years ago
i dont know but it will be awesome....u know, like a retro oldschool golden era gym....nice
androoide 2 years ago
Cardio is useless for maintaining a healthy heart. To maintain a healthy heart you must challenge your muscles with high intensity training to challenge the cardiovascular system. I'm firmly against steroid use for myself as I am natural but there is no evidence to suggest steroids cause heart disease or heart attacks! Pro bodybuilders just do whatever their doc or trainer tells them to do. Most bodybuilders have serious heart conditions because of the excessive amounts of animal protein intake.
Achillesreborn 2 years ago
The heart is a muscle...steroids can and often do cause an enlarged heart (i'm talking about the high doses bodybuilders use)
Ask any heart specialist.
Peter9761 2 years ago
good point Dack. mentzer was addicted to many drugs, sufferd depression and many other problems.
steroids, for a part are safe, if used correctly. any abuse with anything is not safe, the required amount of steroids and stress on the heart than body builders go though, will more than likely shorten their life a vast ammount. Mentzer belived cardio was only to be done to rid 'excess fat', in that, he only did it prior to a show. Pros recomment cardio alongside weight training to help the heart.
drummerja 2 years ago
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Ray and Mike where bums, they just drifted across the United States being worthless faggots till they both died of kidney failure.
KingUser2008 2 years ago
Gregjocka22 - It's spelled 'tons' not "tonnes." Secondly, you start a new sentence with a CAPITAL letter, so Lay off the steriods stupid. Thirdly, as you have no idea about my physique how could you possibly know I am fat?
Finally, far too many pro-bodybuilders have had major heart surgery or died from serious health complications long before their time. Steriods and other physique enhancing substances will kill or ruin you sooner or later. Pro-bodybuilding is nothing more than a cult.
bgibb101 2 years ago
@bgibb101 haha you fucking argue with everyone, i think you are bullshitting about your "rich varied life" if your life was so fruitful you wouldnt be here having petty arguments with everyone and anyone. you do not have a science degree nor are you good looking, your a little geeky fat 52 year old professional TROLL! go eat some 'twinkies' or whatever u obese americans eat when ur trolling lol
MorganDistortion 4 months ago
@MorganDistortion - Thanks for proving just what a total loser you are. You cannot even answer me without throwing abuse and false accusations at me. Unless you have something intelligent to say, stay off the Internet and get a life.
bgibb101 4 months ago
@bgibb101 I'm not the one starting arguments with innocent people on youtube. all i did was put a nice comment on a video and you called me a whore for it
MorganDistortion 4 months ago
What exactly are you trying to do? Prove steroids are safe? Arnold had heart surgery too. Steroids are quite safe despite some side effects that are common, like testicular atrophy and hair loss. Steroid ABUSE is not safe, like the extremes that bodybuilders subject themselves to. And there is no debating that.
bknives 2 years ago
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Steriods did them a lot of good didn't they? The Mentzer's are both dead in their 40's and Coe has underwent heart surgery.
bgibb101 2 years ago
not quite true mike did a lot of other drugs and had personal stresses in life however steroids come and go and I am sure that wont have helped too ray had a genetic disorder again steroids dont help you out long term so your kinda right as to why they died they could have lived longer if wasnt fo the other drugs and personal issues but I think they would have had heart surgery too later on
Dackhollywood1983 2 years ago
you could say the same for any sport, fucked up backs from football, death from motocross, foot problems from running, its all part of the game
JDilla2812 2 years ago 2
what is up with all these people freekin out over steroid use?if you dont use steroids, good for you. if you do, good for you. if it works for you and it makes you feel healthy and strong then how can someone say to you it is wrong.its your life and your health do as you wish. dont listen to these manipulators, all they want to do is controll you. always remember all there power cant controll your mind unless you let it.
The best thing in life is health be yourself Players!
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WhipLash558 2 years ago
Let's see them try it WITHOUT steroids.
Let's see them talk about steroids.
Stay natural buddy!
steroidsR4losers 2 years ago
Get a hobbie you pathetic cup of spunk
MikeMentzerWasMental 2 years ago
ha, they would never be able to.
WhipLash558 2 years ago
They can't look like that by lifting weights. They cheated by using steroids They must be "proud" to be cheaters.
Stay natural buddy!
steroidsR4losers 2 years ago
i look better than them and i dont use roids so what your talking is shit
Deathninja5 2 years ago
The comments here are so out of control and childish it's unreal. I wish this video interview here would have finished.
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look at the size of these guys,,and you think they use steroids,,you fucking asshole..ive seen bricklayers with bigger arms than these ,,"top bodybuilders",,,you need to get yourself a hobby ya smarmy bastard. ... dot dot dot,,
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steroidR4bigmen 2 years ago
SteroidsR4losers is a commenting cock-sucker! He takes viagra instead of vitamins.
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steroidsR4losers 2 years ago
Where did Boyer get that wig? Walmart? Bad piece.
nenzi671 2 years ago
where can i get this music?, I have to use it when im working out nxt!
thegenderbender109 3 years ago
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metzner brothers are dead ray cranked it so much with steroids he was on kidney dialsis another bad effect of being a steroid junky
johnny112233445566 3 years ago
i fisted ur mum in the ass
muscleoffigus 2 years ago
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SteroidsR4losers is unemployed and is wanted in several countries for male butt-rape.
steroidR4bigmen 3 years ago 2
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steroidsR4losers 3 years ago
I love how these steroid-using losers always are in denial over deaths due to performance-enhancing drugs. I knew the Mentzer brother, Andreas Munzer and other bodybuilders who died young, and it WAS due to their steroid use.
vilen25 3 years ago
Steroids are no where near as big as a problem as tobacco and alcohol. Im not saying that steroids CANT kill someone because they can. They dont kill as many people as the mainstreem media would want us to think. Need I remind you that bodybuilders take tons of shit, ranging from weight loss diuretics to drugs to dull the pain of overtraining to stuff for their blood lipid levels and all kinds of stuff. Im not trying to start an argument with you just an old fashion calm discussion.
helpcurecatholicism 2 years ago
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Steroids are for losers
steroidsR4losers 2 years ago
ya' know...i hope you don't drink coffee or take aspirin or anything... but there is an old expression: "build a thousand bridges, suck one dick...you're not a bridge builder, you're dick sucker." you're hypocricy is that you watch these videos...
revskull 2 years ago
Get your facts straight first. I don't drink coffee. I sometimes use asprin if I have a headache. That's not cheating...I'm not suppose to have a headache, that wouldn't be normal. Also, I don't watch the videos...I leave comments. Nice try though. Good effort on trying to justify the use of steroids. Have fun cheating with steroids. BTW, we are still going to leave our messages. I'm really sorry that I have convicted you of your steroids use. Have a nice day.:)
steroidsR4losers 2 years ago
Yeah...but in this video...boyer and mike are clearly off the juice....so how are they cheaters in this particular video?.....you slipped up this time steroidsr4losers.LOL
spade121981 2 years ago 4
They are steroids users.
steroidsR4losers 2 years ago
Not at this particular time they werent...
spade121981 2 years ago 2
HITpadawan sucks donkey dick!
venomattack51 2 years ago
vilen: yeah because only former bodybuilders get health problems in their 40's! Now the guys that abuse them....
pmango1000 2 years ago
SteroidsR4losers fucks fruit!
steroidR4bigmen 3 years ago
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steroidsR4losers 3 years ago
steroidsR4losers butt-rapes his father
steroidR4bigmen 3 years ago
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steroidsR4losers 3 years ago
Most likely. Ray and Mike Mentzer died within 2 weeks of each other mysteriously without any chronic disease.
SpeedKlz 3 years ago
Firstly, they died within 36 hours of each other. Secondly, Ray had systemic multiple organ failure and was undergoing twice weekly dialysis and had Berger's disease, a blood clotting disorder. Mike had both chronic (BP & heart problems which both his father and grandfather had) and acute cardiac problems ie. he died of a heart attack. In terms of drug use, steroids would have played a minor part in his death, but not as much as being a smoker and his previous (heavy) amphetamine use.
SYNERGISTIC123 3 years ago
What do you mean 'without any chronic diesease'? lol
If you knew anything about the Mentzers you'd know that they both suffered from the same genetic heart defect which killed their father, and ultimately them. This has all been officially recorded by the way, and conclusively agreed that steroids had nothing to do with it.
HITpadawan 3 years ago 2
Well, that is what you would like to believe. However, similar to how Andreas Meunzer died a few years ago, only insiders know that both of these guy's organs started to fail due to steroid abuse.
SpeedKlz 3 years ago
Which insiders would these be then kid?
HITpadawan 3 years ago
You clearly have very limited knowledge of pharmacology. Reasons cited supra.
SYNERGISTIC123 3 years ago
the guy interviewing looks like he's goin crosseyed... or falling asleep
123jozef 3 years ago
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steroidsR4losers 3 years ago
SteroidsR4losers has no testicles.
steroidR4bigmen 3 years ago
Boyer was so crap, he actually made Mentzer look good. Look at how small he was here and how big he was on another video. He really needed the juice.
sidewinder510 3 years ago
I've got a worthwhile comment... WHY does the interview end like this- where's part 2??
spritz0 3 years ago
Mentzer looked like the 'Hanson brothers' (from movie Slapshot) of bodybuilding. LOL.
Musk1e 3 years ago
Boyer wearing a hairpiece even way back then in '83. The one he has now looks like he stole it from Burt reynolds.
nenzi671 3 years ago
"Sport"...beauty pageant maybe.
Apjooz 3 years ago
rest in peace,Mike
adyfitness 3 years ago 4
what ever happened to Mr Coe?
kerry1111111 3 years ago
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Who cares.
snakemaster152 3 years ago
LOL. We agree on something.
SYNERGISTIC123 3 years ago
no doubt, he is a loser just like the rest of them that use steroids!
steroidsR4losers 3 years ago
Who cares.
steroidsR4losers 3 years ago
awesome video all great bodybuilders
tnt2005 3 years ago
Why does boyer coe look so scrawny here, when a couple yrs before he was so jacked...
greasegrunt 3 years ago
no juice...look at another video here on youtube where he's training with shawn ray and suddenly he's big again..back on the sauce again.
spade121981 3 years ago 4
WOW GENTLEMEN this is a Fantastic video, PUREHIT
AlexanderMonk 3 years ago
steroids are not the only way to get in bodybuilder shape, plus they give you boobies. i just wanted to shed that hope for those who may be discouraged when they hear about steroids and how rampant the drug is supposedly gaining popularity. steroids are not the only way, and contrary to popular belief neither is working out for 2 hours a day. stimulate and shock the body for growth and get out of the gym. dont try to impress anybody with heavy weight, go for technique, then its about calories
ketogenesis 3 years ago
Where is part 2?
sikboyuk 3 years ago
Bodybuilding and going to the gym is something I've done since I was 16 and I'm 47 now. I have known many bodybuilders and it seems those who used anabolics and had to stop drop by the wayside. I spoke to Ian Dowe a Mr Universe winner and when he had to stop the juice and go natural he found it too much. He had been propped up by the juice for so long that without it he had no desire to train. Train natural and you can stay looking good into your 60's.
silicon2001 3 years ago
I think drug abuse had something to do with poor health.
drumsanddrumming 3 years ago
Here's a problem with Mike...if short and infrequent workouts were the way to go, then why did he look like crap for the last 10-15 years of his life? Why couldn't he find any time to train, even for 15 minutes?
silicon2001 3 years ago
From what I understand he had back surgery where his spine got infused. He has assistance that assist him with lifting things. Plus he got into a bad habit of smoking. He made it clear to Ironman in 1993 that he wants to be the one that does the research. Sort of like actors turn to directing a film instead of being in it.
Naturalhit 3 years ago
i think the way to look at it is the same as if ur always doing suming (and bodybuilding ur thinking and doing pritty much all the time) and ur doing it for how long most pro's do it for then wen u retire u pritty much wud of had enough of it, look at arnie he looks terrible now and has done for ages, the only reason he was okay a while ago was cuz of films if he wasn't in them i expect he wudn't of been in a good shape
but yea i think any1 wud jus be like fuck it i had enough of that now
chazbinst 3 years ago
Sadly, Mke was involved in recreational drugs and suffered from depression. He spent little time in the gymnasium and became very unhealthy.
domers88 3 years ago
What rec drugs? Coke?
doctorspankluv 3 years ago
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steroidsR4losers 3 years ago
It's ok queerfag tranny. Stay a girlyman.
doctorspankluv 3 years ago
Well, he says that he is retired here , when was this taken? Didn't he go mad after he retired?
don7frye 3 years ago
85-90 were his dark years.
SYNERGISTIC123 3 years ago
They did'nt mention steroids.
silicon2001 3 years ago
silicon2001's only contribution to anything - STEROIDS, STEROIDS, STEROIDS, STEROIDS, STEROIDS, STEROIDS. Go away, idiot.
olympia80 3 years ago
You're right- maybe he smoked SILICON in 2001- now WE have to spread the rumor about him!!
spritz0 3 years ago
This is awesome. You should show the complete series of these.
Naturalhit 3 years ago
can u post more mentzer stuff, awesome
ttwarrior1 3 years ago
Here you can clearly see the mesomorphic rating of the Mentzers versus Boyer Coe - Mike and Boyer off the juice and look at their respective appearance. Coe is relatively stringy in appearance with an average structure and much less muscle density. The same Boyer Coe that was placed one ahead of Mike in the Sydney fiasco, yet thought he was hard done by...
olympia80 3 years ago
He was hard done by. Watch him hit a side chest pose right next to Arnold. You can clearly see striations all over him while Arnold looked smooth. Why even compare Boyer to Mike anyway? They were both hard done by when looking at Arnold's condition. Besides, I thought they placed equally, anyhow. One more thing, you compare the Boyer of this video to Mike in this video, they are both far from their contest shapes. Back off, hater.
SandyRoxMySox 3 years ago
Oh dear. Another dumb 19 year old kid...
Ok - poor forearms, turtle-shell back, no quad outer sweep, poor abs, poor basic structure (compared to Mentzer anyway)not in the same league. Clearly mesomorph/ectomorph.
Boyer seems a decent guy but he has structural faults, and placed better than those sans, on several occassions. That is not hating kid, merely pointing out the obvious. Come back in 15 or 20 years when you actually KNOW something about bodybuilding...
And Arnold 1980 was way better.
olympia80 3 years ago