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  • And then he died.

  • I would love to see the face of Mendez, Nakariakov, or Marsalis by about 3:20 on this piece.

  • This is sick good. Slurring some of those disjunct intervals at this speed is just crazy.

  • The clarinet, buffoon, and violin players have it EASY on this song, they just go

    dum - dum - dum

  • @DancingSpiderman What's a buffoon?

  • @lolmanlolify Q: What's a buffoon?

    A: A big fat woodwind instrument. Sounds kinda like an oboe, only more better. There's the Buffoon, and then, there is the Contra-Buffoon.

    Thanks for tuning in. I'll take the next student's question....

  • @DancingSpiderman I think you mean Bassoon.

  • @zacman727 you're correct. I meant Bassoon. And, its cousing, the ContraBaffoon. haha.

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  • AGH i'm getting dizzy!

  • WHEW! 

  • I am mostly a saxophone player, but having played trumpet on the side, I cannot stress enough how impossibly crazy awesome this is. Moto Perpetuo is a hard piece for a violin player, but to do it on trumpet, slurred, circular breathing, with virtually no mistakes, at a pretty peppy tempo, and still include proper dynamics, articulation, and placing of notes is unimaginable.

    I once tried to play this on Soprano Saxophone and practically exploded.

  • I'm willing to bet there are probably fewer than 20 trumpet players alive on the planet currently who could play this double tongued or slurred while circular breathing for over 4 minutes.

    Double tonguing hard I admit but think about the level of difficult that comes in slurring. You can't afford to miss one partial or breathe in the wrong place or it's all over.

    It's easy for a saxophone player to comment but how about fellow trumpeters? We know what bitch those drills were as kids.

  • Good observation about comparison freaks. I always found it harder to double tongue scales up and down than slurring...but then again, my name isn't on the list of trumpet players you listed here.

  • @OR5519 if you think that sluring while circular breathing is easier than tounguing, then you haven't done any circular breathing.

  • mendez and marsalis both amazing players

  • Hey dude, get your facts straight. Neither Mendez or Nakariakov did it in one take. If you listen to Mendez' recording you can tell that it was obviously edited. Nakariakov did the same thing. I don't know for sure, but I think Wynton did it in one take. I think this because it's all slurred and would be very tough to edit together.

  • Oh my godness!!! :D

    who knows some techniques for learning circular breathing?

  • @92makedon watch some videos on it. Basically get lots of air, puff up your face cheeks, and only use the force of your mouth to get rid of that air while inhaling with your nose. It's incredibly tricky at first, but over time and with practice you'll get eventually. I've been playing for 15 years.

  • I actually like this slurred version. It sounds better to me. It's like the difference between listening to Itzhak Perlman playing this or Flight of the Bumblebee and listening to Menuhin play them. Perlman attack is so present that it is not as enjoyable while Menuhin's sound almost legato. I prefer Menuhin's and I prefer this.

    Regardless of the technical aspect.

  • when we learn this the first time, we play legato for practice , but moto perpetuo pieces have a 200 year tradition of being played separate notes spiccato--so Wynton , play whatever you want, play it backwards, but that is not the music.. it sounds wrong, and everybody else is killing themselves not for fun, but to give respect to the composer, Paganini.

  • @w8sted1

    Moto perpetuo was created for violin so you need to call up Rafael Mendez and Sergei and tell them "that is not the music". Tell them to grab a violin and play it if they want the *correct* music. You're being an idiot and giving no way to artistic creativity. People like you destroy the essence of musical ability like you get paid to. Chill the fuck out and enjoy the music.

  • @James9533 Why would I criticize Mendez and Sergei, you idiot-- you didn't understand my post.. They are doing the music justice by double-tonguing and playing the notes separate Meantime, Wynton decides, "I don't care what the composer wanted , because I am Wynton- I can play a waltz in 4 if I want to so i proclaim that this piece should be done LEGATO--well good for you wynton but that is not the music and the other guys, mr. chill the fuck out, fuck you right back, do it right. Get it?

  • I like how people are treating what Wynton's doing as if any trumpet player could do this. That's bull shit. Slurring on the trumpet isn't like slurring on a clarinet or a saxophone, it's ALL lips. And all lips for 4:30 minutes straight. Not only that but he still has a clear tone at the end as if he could do this for hours on end. I doubt more than 10 trumpet players in the world could even play this rendition of the song to be honest.

  • I don't like so much this slurring version.

  • y porq el no usa ataque??

  • He is slurring. Mendez is tounging. HUGE difference

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  • Spudro spädre

    Ythotha

  • Like butter.

  • If you guys are referring to the Sergei Nakariakov Version, first off you should know that that particular recording is from his Carmen Fantasie CD, his 3rd album released which I have right here in my hands. Inside, the cover explains that the molto perpetuo was composed by the famous violinist panganini, because everthing written for violin at the time wasn't hard enough!! Enough said, they removed Sergei's inhalation to imitate what it would sound like on a violin---that is, nonstop motion!!

  • I should also add that slurring this mother is not easy. Double tonguing is much easier, if you can take the strain on your tongue for 4 1/2 minutes!

  • Bullshit

  • Where do you get your facts? Everything that I've heard says Mendez took four takes. Obviously still great. And It's impossible to double tongue and circular breath at the same time, try it. So Mendez and Nakariakov edited theirs, it's very easy to tell with Mendez. I think Marsalis did his in one take since he slurs it, but I can't be sure. All these recordings are great and I wish I could play like any of them of course. I just think you should double check your sources.

  • Hmm.... I dunno. Not to take anything away from Wynton, but how in the world do you double tongue for that long without your face and tongue turning to mush!! And then circular breathing on top of that? Are you kidding?? Like I said, not to take anything away from Mr. Marsalis himself, but that Sergei recording is pretty ridiculous.

  • Finnally someone that agrees with me! But sometimes I dont like how mendez attacks some of his notes in alot of his playing it feels to me kinda like a punch in the face if you know what I mean.

  • Rafael was a complete original. He didn't shy away from his "roots" as a mariachi type musician. Nor did he see any need to change his style regardless of the music being played. This worked for him essentially all of the time, except for when he played the Haydn. That was technically correct, but stylistically pretty terrible. Only Al Hirt had a worse version of the Haydn.

  • prodigioso!!!!

  • he actually takes an accidental breath in the middle

  • nobody like mendez in technique

  • it would seem that playing like this is easier than tonguing it like Mendez, and this is not nearly as crisp and clean as mendez.

  • Son de risa sus comentarios, seguro ninguno ha intentado jamás tocar "picado" en cada nota al estilo de Méndez, algo que por supuesto jamás podría hacer Marsalis.

  • Wynton here played the piece in legatto using cuircular breathing, no doubt.

  • did he play this using the circular breathing technique that rafael mendez used?

  • yes:D without circular breathing you can't play this piece

  • I knew a guy who tried playing Moto Perpetuo without circular breathing.

    HE DIED.

    The End.

  • Funny!

  • @DancingSpiderman kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

  • @DancingSpiderman i know another one. he didn't die. he's a VIOLINIST

  • @BackSideJazz haha

  • can any of u do it...no i cant so injoy the talent that ull never have

  • Does anyone know where I can find the sheet music for this?

  • Just do a Google search.

  • rafael probably was aiming for a tone better fitted for the Mexican songs that he grew up with.  all he had inferior recording when he recorded it. (just a guess don't know when he recorded it though)

  • E' il più grande di tutti perchè semplicemente fa bene tutto.

  • Wynton is good no doubt, but the best trumpet performance of "Moto Perpetuo" by far , is by Rafael Mendez. Rafael's "staccato" is much clearer and sharper!

  • I don't know... Sergei's is staccato and with much better time and more musicality than Mendez. Rafael is a beast, no doubt, but I think it's pretty easy to argue a case for any one of the great artists that have recorded this incredibly challenging piece.

  • rafael's tone isn't that great, and he kept falling offbeat. i prefer sergei's as well.

  • Mendez's version is too marichachi [sp].

    Naka...kov's is the bestest on the YourTube.

  • too mariachi???...are you serious? what kind of cooment is that...more respect to the Maestro Mendez please

  • shut the hell up wtf dancing spiderman is your name? wtf

  • It's a dark, smoking tone that I don't think is perfect for all situations necessarily, but he deserves considerable respect. He's done more than just about anyone alive for music.

  • well it isn't that easy to keep the best tone in the world going that fast WHILE circular breathing

  • His tone is very clear, but I really don't prefer the way Moto Perpetuo sounds slurred. It just feels too sloppy.

  • I agree with you matthew348, everyone has their own unique style.  That's what makes Wynton so great.

  • Why do so many people critisize about little technical difference between players. All these players are immensely better than most and they all play with dirrerent styles. Can we not just accet that and enjoy waht they perform?

  • idk what to say. this version is a bi mor pleasant to listen to but its not nearly as clean and impressive as mendez or nakariakov

  • You can hear where he's breathing, he get's a bit fuzzy tone:P WOnderful playing!

  • remember the syncopation! syncopation, remember the syncopation!

  • I dont think he's double tounging. Thats one of the hard parts about this piece (aside from the circular breathing). I think Mendez does it the best.

  • your right hes just sluring it.

  • @ThatCubeGuy he is just slurring it? If you play trumpet (I'm not assuming that you don't), than you should know that 4 1/2 of straight slurs will burn more 4 1/2 minutes of straight double tonguing. I agree with Mr Bosnian78.. everyone has their own unique style

  • It's like runnibg the 4 minute mile or swimming the Channel. A great accomplishmrnt but you get exhausted just listening... But WOW!!

  • Wow. Wish I could play like Wynton. Or Sergei. I think I like the tongued version though better than this one though.

  • Why are 99% of the comments comparisons? Sure a lot of critics out there, and I'm willing to bet not one can get through measure 12 of this piece!

  • @Bixachmo exactly. people should just enjoy the music

  • re-recording is possible?

  • Not really terrible, but Rafael Mendez did it right. Listen to his version then tell me Winton was better....

  • Winton is better...

  • paganini wrote this to be played staccato.

  • If Mr Marsalis wanted it staccato he would have done it.

    What you all fail to notice is this! Can you tell where he takes his breaths?

    This circular breathing st its best. Try it! A violinist or pianist does not need to worry about breathing.

  • tplr2 im sorry, i am just saying paganini wrote another way to be played, i love trumpet but i cant play it, and i cant circular breath either (ive tried a couple times with a straw and water lol), i play piano, and his circular breathing is exceptional, actually i am a big fan of wynton, mendez and nakariakov, if you want to recommend some more trumpetist or records of marsalis (i have carnaval and the one with arturo sandoval) i would appreciate it very much, greetings and thank you very much.

  • Be careful if you say anything about wynton where one of his fans can hear you might get lynched. The truth is most of his rabid fans have only ever heard him and aren't what you would call musically savy. Like you I enjoy Marsalic AMONG others. However he is taking liberties in this piece that ruin the effect. This is supposed to tick along quickly not smear and slur all over.

  • haha lo van a linchar jaja, pero al fin y al cabo el tiene razon fue escrito para tocarse en staccato

  • If you speak English well enough to read my post, you speak English well enough to reply in English. If not I doubt your opinion on what I said matters....

  • i can read english but i cant speak english jo jo jo

  • All evidence to the contrary...

  • It's true that a violinist doesn't need to worry about breathing, but bow control is a pretty close analog to that - e.g. bow/breath speed, bow/breath pressure, bow/breath conservation, etc.

  • yeah but try circular breathing while double tonguing. instead of slurring through a bunch of notes. kinda loses it's purpose

  • Rarael Mendez el mejor 111111111111111111111111111111­111111111111111

  • Just ask wynton what he thinks about mendez.

  • noobs slur it.

    mendez wins.

  • lol this is just a (not-that)fast-slurred-low-una­ccurate shi.t . Listen to nakariakov to see how this piece has to be played

  • there is now way this is nearly as impressive or amazing as mendezs version (mendez pwns all)

  • it was still exellent. but the moto perpetuo should be sppicatto for violin/viola so it should be double tonguedon trumpet.nevertheless amazing.

  • I can't tell which one I like more, Mendez or Marsalis. They're both good in different ways. I think Marsalis' version is more pleasant to listen to, but Mendez's is a much more impressive display of technique.

  • listen to Sergei Nakariakov play it. double tongued, but very smooth.

  • finally someone with a brain. THANK YOU!!!

  • Hi everybody.....

    You guys really thin Wynton can't do it in the Rafael style....I mean tounging evry note?

    Wynton is the best trumpetplayer ever....he can do the Moto Perpetuo in every style we wanna hear! By the much cleaner and more nice to listen the way Wynton recorded the song on Carnaval!

    Keep up the posts!

    Frank

  • i couldn't agree with you more! Wynton is amazing! he's probably done this song in the bathtub, the Mendez style for 'cause he got bored of cleaning his a**!! haha

  • i personaly like this version better

    because it blends better witht he backround

    it might not be as hard

    but is nicly done aswell

  • very imprsive but i think mendez's version was much cleaner and overall better

  • this is dumb!! hes not even tounguing the notes like rafael mendez!!

    still pretty impressive haha

  • Dude how does he do the circular breathing? And then the note and tounging and such? This is one of my fave songs off the carnival album

  • You can practice circular breathing with a glass of water and a straw. Just practice keeping the bubbles bubbling. I know it sounds rediculous, but it really works!!! It was recommended to me by my old middle school band director who could circular breathe.

  • He's god damn right!! Worked perfect for me, i learned Cicular breathing perfectly in just a few months;)

  • even tho i believe rafaels was more difficult cuz he tounged every note, wynton did good.

  • Rafael Mendez's solo is even better than this. He circular breathed the entire solo and tounged all of the notes, unlike Wynton Marsalis here. Although I do like the slurring better because it seems to flow more with the background parts. Way to go Wynton!

  • While Mr. Mendez did have the ability to circular breathe, I do believe he admitted at some point that his recording of Moto Perpetuo was spliced together for the 1961 Decca release. Myabe this was due to lack of recording technology, who knows, but Wynton does play it well. It would have been nice to hear the latter play it staccato and achieve the same perfection of performance.

  • Hmm that could be true; however, I'll might look into it sometime, but I'll take your word for it as of now. Even so, he did do a wonderful job in playing so I still tip my hat off to him. Now that you mention it, it does sound a little strange but that might just be the uploading of the file. Strange but it brings some curiosity into me so I'll see what I can find.

  • straordinario!!

    il massimo del virtuosismo

  • ENGLISH!

  • putz de mais !

    esse pra mim é o melhor trompetista do mundo!

  • This is amazing, true. The best recording is by Rafel Mendez. I hear he worked on it for years. He double tongued the whole thing with a cup mute too. It's literally perfect, not a single note cracked!! Even at the high 'E'.

  • Yes, that recording is amazing... but he did it open (ie no mute)

  • That...was frickin' insane!!!!!

    Made my chops burn just listening to it!

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