Added: 1 year ago
From: NurdRage
Views: 125,209
Sort by time | Sort by thread (beta)

Link to this comment:

Share to:
see all

All Comments (582)

Sign In or Sign Up now to post a comment!
  • the gas is colorless and irritant

  • when i put my sodium free salt gas is produced in pretty large quantities. what is wrong? plz answer

  • Sweet! now i can go make a bomb

  • excuse me not to sound like an idiot, but, wtf is electrolysis?

  • @0cheeseburga if you dont know what electrolysis is please dont try anything this guy is doing. Ever. You sound like an idiot. Especially since you typed that in the comment box and not the google search field.

    What you could do is pay attention in 4th grade.

  • Soooo.... ummm.... Like Ninjas didn't have all of this advanced stuff so like is there anyway to do it from nature

  • @cloudwolfsa Fractional crystallisation of potassium nitrate from stale horse urine and compost was how they used to obtain the oxidant for combustible/explosive mixtures in Ye'olden days.

  • @BuzzTeddyHead Wow thanks... ummmm anyway I could obtain knowledge on this stuff???? No matter how far I've searched on the internet or in book stores either everything is up to date and have to buy...

  • @cloudwolfsa Well if all else fails you could break the piggy bank for a chemistry book. Theyre about 50 bucks. A used college book store is a good start. If that sounds like too much work for you, it probably is. Chemists make 100s of grand a year, do you? I doubt barnes and noble is going to have a book called KClO3 for dummies. if you dont know what diphenyl means or isomethyl, or words like that then you should learn more. there is no such thing as half assed chemistry

  • @cloudwolfsa I've quoted a book reference to that Bellend person in a response to one of their ignorant comments. I'm not sure how the library system works in the USA, but here, if you request a book they will order it in for you. Some of these old academic books cost a hell of a lot. Also you may want to research the old English friar Roger Bacon, who did a lot of work with saltpeter in the medieval age.

  • @BuzzTeddyHead Actually youre probably wrong, or your source is probably wrong.

    What is stale horse urine? Imagine the task of getting a horse to pee in a container.

    Do you know what fractional crystalization is?

    put top soil into a sieve on top of wood ash and pour hot water through it. ta da. no urine required

    Actually salt peter, as it was referred to in "ye olden days" is mined out of the ground. period. Boiling urine will eventually yield Phosphorous. thanks pbs

  • @blellblell In medieval Europe there were people employed specifically to collect urine from the towns folk who were ordered to leave it, by the crown, for collection. This was then used for the manufacture of potassium nitrate. Which is one of the most soluble nitrates.

    Source - Joseph LeConte (1862). Instructions for the Manufacture of Saltpeter. Columbia, S.C.: South Carolina Military Department. p. 14. Retrieved 2007-10-19.

  • @BuzzTeddyHead Urine has been used in the manufacture of gunpowder. Urine, a nitrogen source, was used to moisten straw or other organic material, which was kept moist and allowed to rot for several months to over a year. The resulting salts were washed from the heap with water, which was evaporated to allow collection of crude saltpeter crystals, that were usually refined before being used in making gunpowder. From wikipedia. All you had to do was look child !!

  • @BuzzTeddyHead

    Oh so its human urine now. Was it stale? Youre almost right. that was in the 1800s, not the middle ages. In the middle ages... 1270 was the middle ages right? they mined it and purified it. Period. no horse urine required.  no human urine required. Google salt peter mine. Then look at wikipedia and read as much as you can in 30 seconds, finally, pat yourself on the back for being literate and at least partially as knowledgable as a competent 8th grader

  • @blellblell Your method of what you consider to be fractional crystallisation, would just simply create a solution composed of all the soluble chemicals reduced from the wood ash, mainly potassium carbonate. Fractional crystallisation is the process of precipitating out chemicals depending on their differing solubility. As nitrates are much more soluble than other chemicals in the mixture they will be the last to precipitate out of solution.

  • @BuzzTeddyHead What I consider fractional crystalization? no. I never said it was fractional crystalization. Ever. Im starting to get it now... you dont read. Im not going to debate objective reality with you. I know what fractional crystalization is. You already said salt peter is very soluble. it is. My process (i wouldnt say my... id say THE) works. Period. Tell me what to do with stale urine to make saltpeter.

    OR, put water through topsoil then woodash, then boil the water

  • @blellblell As you know. Period. That saltpeter was mined from the ground. I shan't even bother telling you about the vast quantities of nitrate being collected from around the world from the guano of sea-birds. The Wars, the development of the Haber-Bosch process due to disruption of these shipping lanes etc. As you already seem to know it all. I do however, suggest you take your own advice from the comments above and buy a chemistry book. Then maybe take a giant leap and read it.

  • @blellblell If only your knowledge base was as expanded as your inflated sense of self importance. You would truly be a genius.

  • @cloudwolfsa so ummm.... like, no. Like, potassium chlorate is like um, an oxidizer.. and like, um... theres too many things that oxidize in nature.... and like... for the same, like, reason you cant find like, elemental aluminum but like, you can find like, bauxite ore, um... soooo.... like, you can find potassium... and like, chlorides. So um.... I hope that like, answered your stupid fucking like, question.... um. I still dont know what ninjas have to do with it.

  • real life walter white

  • @shenlong0 Hardly. Walter white wouldnt make KClO3, hed make KClO4. Guess why.

    thats perchlorate... im just saying, he was playing with fulminate... stands to reason

  • @NurdRage

    Is there anyway this can be done with calcium hypochlorite found in pool shock? I have seen a few threads about this but the material seems sketchy at best. Or is there a possibility that you could heat the calcium hypochlorite with KCl to form postassium hypochlorite and then heat further to form the chlorate? Thanks.

  • how much no salt and water did you mix together?

  • warning to all youtube users i boiled the bleach in a steel pot this will ruin the pot and your bleach

  • @MegaScienceguru i didthe same thing.... not my smartest moment

  • the only prob I see here is the bleach makes nacl and naclo3 sol righ, then you decant off the naclo3 solution leaving solid salt, some nacl is in the solution is as the chlorate no? you dont chill first to drop it but add kcl to swap. seems like it is fighting to make more nacl when its already max in solution, but some how the clorate drops out now instead of the salt, which is in excess? why is it only the salt would drop the firs time and only chlorate precipitates the other time? thanks

  • @demnlordd666 and don't get me wrong I am not bitching or correcting. I just don't understand why it dropps out salt first but not later. the chlorate content never changes. but salt is present, then dropped, then con. sol. is added again and only the chlorate drops now? just plain confusing

  • when you have sodium chlorate cant you just add  sugar and make a fire explosion

  • @elflordbob1 you mean potassium chlorate?? and yes, if the kcl03 is molten and you add sugar you wil get a quite violent reaction

  • @n8rman13

    it works with both i think

    sodium chlorate and potassium chlorate

  • @n8rman13 What? if its not molten, and you add sugar, you just made the classic solidox bomb as described in the A C B. Then if you add a spark youll definately get a violent decomposition reaction. I think another way to describe that reaction is an "explosion".

    Probably not a good idea to encourage chlorates to decompose. Heat helps them decompose... im sure heating oxidizers has its purposes, but youre going to be waving hello with your elbows if you dont figure out that its a nono

  • What does he mean by ''until you see crystals forming'' Where will they form?

  • @Randomviewer77 On the sides probably

  • @Randomviewer77 since youre stirring it they would be in suspension. Since theyre a precipitate they would be in suspension. They wouldnt be on the sides, the top, the edge or in any one place unless you stop stirring. Then depending on their density they either float or sink. They would be in suspension. Think snow globe.

  • Make it before my 14th birthday!

  • I don't know what the hell i'm gonna do with potassium chlorate, but i'm gonna make it!

  • Comment removed

  • I did this experiment, and when bleach is boiled precipitated sodium chloride had brown colour and i mixed solution with KCl and there was no KClO3. From 500ml of 5% NaClO i got about 30 ml of NaClO3 solution. Is possible that NaClO3 decomposed from solution?

  • @nikola96uf You probably don't have pure sodium hypochlorite bleach but contaminated with other stuff (like perfumes and so on). At least where I live, the best bleach I can get is the blue Danklorix bottle which has 2.8% NaOCl.

  • yes we would appreciate an electrolysis video please =)

  • electrolysis please

  • This procedure shattered on of my expensive pyrex dishes! What should I use instead?

  • This procedure shattered on of my expensive pyrex dishes!

  • @neodymiumpain Don't put consumer grade "pyrex" on a stovetop or hot plate. Either get lab grade borosilicate pyrex labware, or put the consumer grade stuff in the microwave. A microwave oven works fine for this process. Also I'd highly recommend chem resistant coveralls, gloves, faceshield and a respirator for anyone trying this, you are working with boiling bleach.

  • Question: I do not understand a step, which is made with potassium chloride?, poured into water and boil? or only mixed potassium chloride water and let it sit?

  • can you just light it instead of using acid

  • you haven't made it with electrolysis yet , so make it!!!

  • Make the damn electrolysis

  • would'nt sodium chlorate work as an oxidizer anyway? also, how would i do this with powder bleach stuff?

  • @flamingchucknorris mix bleach and water,i think it will work.

  • Nerdrage....how would I be able to produce the perchlorate? (making rockets)

  • @matchbox2022 you take the solution before cooled downand mix with 3% or more hydrogen peroxied then stir vigorously then cool

  • you haven't made it with electrolysis yet , so make it!!!

  • It's sodium hypochlorite bleach right???

  • Question: If I boil the sodium chlorate solution, having removed the sodium chloride crystals, will I get sodium chlorate crystals?

  • @jazerazo You can boil the solution to saturation, then cool it to well below 0 Celsius and most of the NaCl will precipitate out. Evaporating the remaining liquid will yield somewhat contaminated NaClO3 crystals. It's better to perform the metathesis reaction with KCl and precipitate KClO3, as it will come out of solution at a higher temperature than KCl and can simply be collected through filtration. KClO3 is also much less hygroscopic and therefore more useful in practical applications.

  • @CanadianPyro1 Thanks a lot for the info!

  • Can I use a substitute for KCl?

  • what potassium chloride percentage in the solution?

  • Comment removed

  • what is this for???

  • @mcwario13 to fight tooth decay.

  • @jjtheslayer69 really?

  • what about pottassium perchlorate?

  • You make Bill Nye look like a child

  • @escout123 You should have said "Dumb" instead of "Child."

  • @1tobedoneX or less intelligent

    

  • What is the name of the glass container you used boil the bleach in the beginning of the video?

  • @Toohigia The contain he used to boil the bleach is a crystallizing dish.

  • What is the name of the glass container you used boil the bleach in the beginning of the video?

  • You should do one on Cyanide.

  • Can you light it with a propane torch? Does the sulfuric acid have to be concentrated?

  • @jarheadwithm16 ya pretty much any flame will ignite the mixture. Only use H2SO4 if you need to know if the oxidizer is actually KClO3.

  • I HAVE Potassium perchlorate and others chemicals (In EU) labchemo@gmail.com :)))

  • i think this channel is watched by a lot of terrorist

  • In place of salt substitute you can get potassium chloride from fertiliser M.O.P (muriate of potash) which is almost pure and i buyed in india 50 kilogram for 5$ only

  • hey nurdrage !!!!!! i have a question for you.... what do you mix the salt substitute in to make the saturated solution????? please answer me man, thanks

  • @brassmonkey740 to make a saturated solution you just mix the kcl with water until it doesn't dissolve anymore, this is why it's called saturated...

  • @nurdrage alright so i have to mix it in water, thanks

  • great vid, very usfull info

  • is it necessary to use only glass equipments for boiling

  • @Narutopuneet yes, you can try stainless steel but it might corrode

  • thumbs up if nurdrage is the most awesome chemist on youtube

  • @brassmonkey740 and the most awesome chemist anywhere on the internet

  • @brassmonkey740 i think, in my opinion, it's between nurdrage and householdhacker. i'll let you decide

  • @brassmonkey740 totaly true he has the best videos and i always know what to do afther i watched his video

  • what in the world did you mix the salt substitute with to make a saturated solution man!!!!

  • what in the world do you mix the salt substitute with to make a saturated solution man!!!!!!!

  • Yay! now i know how to *cough**cough*kill*cough**coug­h* a gummy bear!

  • how many grams of potassium chlorate did you get when you made this video? what yields can I expect?

  • @cwgumby depends on your bleach concentration, and how long you cool/boil the solutions etc.

  • is potassium perchlorate the same as potassium chlorate or is there a slight difference? and is this stuff safe to handle?

  • @yoongies There is a big difference! Chlorate is ClO3- with chlorine in the +5 oxidation state, while perchlorate is ClO4- with chlorine in the +7 oxidation state. chlorate is cheap and easy to make. While perchlorate is a bit more expensive but is much more stable and slightly more powerful. You should never use anything sulfur related with chlorate as trace acids with in the sulfur form highly unstable chloric acid, but you can use sulfur with perchlorate as perchloric acid isn't so unstable.

  • hi! good job; we see this salt cristallize with a good yeld !

    End firing for the fun!

  • Is this your legit voice??

  • FAKE THIS SHIT DONT WORK!!!

  • @jamecrowley Your grammar doesn't work. You should get that checked out.

  • @utube8353 YO MOM DONT WORK BITCH 

  • @jamecrowley Haha, okay child. Whatever you say.

  • @jamecrowley She works at my house lmfao.

  • @FirstOneReady LMAO his mom be doing my dishes

  • Can i use potassium hydroxide KOH in place of potassium chloride KCl

  • @Narutopuneet yes, but that's a HUGE waste, as KOH is much much more expensive then KCl.

  • Can i use CaOCl2 thats is calcium bleach in place of sodium hypochlorate

  • @Narutopuneet yes but the procedure is much different.

  • @Narutopuneet please tell me the procedure. i am thinking that if i can use calcium hypochlorate and then heat it up to make calcium chlorate and calcium chloride then filter out the liquid add nacl to solution make sodium chlorate crystals will this happen please tell me

  • would this work with regular salt (sodium chloride) instead of sodium free salt (potassium chloride) to give you sodium chloride instead of potassium chloride?

  • Is this safe? because KClO3 is a nasty oxidixer and can be unstable.

    Thanks

  • why is your voice disgused? lmfao its so useless and makes it hard to understand. its not like you're making meth here

  • this shit is fake ive done it a thousand times it dont work

  • How about making Potassium Perchlorate

  • How much KClO3 did you get in the end?

  • Can i use potassium oxide mixed with water in place of kcl i have 68%k2o can i mix it with water then with boiled bleach solution

  • Where the other vid?

  • @uglybuddy6 this guy is fronton hes never gonna make the other video

  • what happens if you boil it too long?

  • in the experiments requiring potassium, couldnt you use instead of that salt substitute a potassium supplement you can purchase in almost every pharmacy?

  • does sodium chlorate behave like potassium chlorate? like does it oxidize stuff?

    so can we just transfer the solution after boiling and evaporate it?

  • @EPICGUYDUDE no there is a lot of sodium chloride in it.

  • Hello nurdrage! all your videos are freaking awesome! I will love to know if you are still planning on doing potassium chlorate through electrolysis. As you said that it was still more effective... Smoke bomb time baby!! :D

  • i understand nothing in these videos but watch all of them any way

  • @zipzapzupify perhaps you will learn something then

  • can this procedure be done in a metal pan?

  • @abomb757 I tried it, I ended up with many crystaline lumps with the consistancy of burned sugar, the stuff doesn't really come off with steel wool.

    (I later boiled sodium hydroxide with some interesting additives in the pan, the pan is now sitting inside a government-designated toxic waste disposal unit).

  • hello Nurdrage, today I make some potassium chlorate from bleach, I mix it with sugar and it works. I am really happy now, and would like to thank you for adding this video. Please make any video soon, I would really like to know how to make electrodes for chlorates and making electrolysis cell.

    ps.thank you.

  • Hi mr. NERD RAGE, Thanks 4 all your vids. I do have a question 4 u tho on this video. i have done the experiment and got the crystals, cleaned them with metho, let them dry, mixed them with sugar bout 50/50 and lit them with fuse but it only burnt with a bright yellow to white flame so i am not sure why i could not see the tell tail purple flame of potassium. i used pool bleach 125g/l sodium hypochlorite and kcl 97-98% and did the experiment as u say. Why am i not seeing purple flame?

  • hello can you show me and the ppl watching you where to get lquidnaitrogen

  • When the two solutions are combined, are they both hot or cold? Also, if I start with 1 litre of bleach, how far do I need to boil it before it is ready? 250ml? 100ml?

    Thanks

  • may i use any other source of potassium instead of potassium chloride i have potassium oxide please tell me if i can use potassium oxide

  • @Narutopuneet no you can not use potassium oxide. potassium oxide would react with water anyway to form potassium hydroxide. how ever you can make potassium chloride from it by reacting a solution of it with hydrochloric acid.

  • Hey nurdrage i think this can important for you and other..

    :The relativ atom masses are to handel (addit) with (g/mol=x*10^-36) for the exactly molecularmass, divide it by the number of atoms and verb they paralell to the exactly ratio you want. You can to addit the sames atoms before do the paralell verbs.

    It is a kind of magic sure.

    Amazon.de sell an periodensystem with relative atommasses and more (study knowledge).

    I like the texas instrument calculators (not the cheapest.)

  • @getdown1983

    The cat sours the basil. Yes?

  • Hey nurdrage,

    I did the experiment myself, however as I did not have a burner-pad, I cooked it closely over a really hot wood fire. I ended up with an almost iron-oxide colored solution, and after emptying it into the potassium chloride solution the crystals in the bottom of the can it was boiled in were the colour of burned sugar. Did I over/undercook it, Use too impure bleach, not use a hot enough fire, or some other factor?

  • wheres the electrolysis???????

  • Ooooooooooh yeah disproportionation BOOYAKASHA

  • hey nurdrage! got a question... i was experementing a little and realized that if you mix polyvinle alcohol (fake tears) and salt subsitute it will get very cold. can you plz tell me why it does that?

  • At which stage is the chlorine gas produced?

    (I would like some for my element collection)

  • @HLiNaKRbCsFrUun There are definatly better ways to make chlorine.

    Use some hydrochloric acid and bleach to make chlorine

  • Comment removed

  • Great video cant wait for the electrolysis video. I have seen others but i would prefer one from you guys as you seem like a reliable source. keep up the good work.

    chemistry rulez

  • Make HF

  • Hello, could someone help me please? im trying to get sodium chlorate by electrolysis of a hot sodium chloride + water solution. Im using a car battery for power and two carbon rods from old D cell batterys, should this be ok? Iv'e tried and the result's have not been to promising. Any help would be very welcome. Thank you.

  • Great vid. How pure Is the potassium chlorate, and about how much does this yield ?  -thanks

  • Really like your information

  • Great work! Keep it up!

  • Just wondering, but isn't this a carcinogen? I know potassium perchlorate is one

  • I was wondering, is there a way to separate the sodium chloride from the sodium chlorate?

  • @experthe that was just what I was wondering. The only way of separation of chlorides I found is with silver nitrate. Silver forms a non-soluble-in-water white substance of silver chloride which can be then filtered out. This is use, to check the presence of chlorides though, and is not so much usable to 'purify', since silver is very costly.

  • @experthe not really as sodium chlorate is very soluble, even in cold water, and sodium chloride's solubility doesn't change much with temperature.

  • @spotlightman1234

    Not true. I was producing some Potassium Chlorate myself, and for maximum sodium chloride solubility in water I used near-boiling water. The results yeilded a significand increase in solubility, I was able to add in at least one extra tablespoon of chloride in a 700ml solution.

  • could I mix a solution of sodium chlorate from weed killer with a solution of potassium chloride and get the same results?

  • Excuse me, Dr. Butyl Lithium. This MAY be completely unrelated, but do you have an address where I can send a letter to? I have an assignment where I need to write about one of today's leaders, and I chose you. :D

    If I don't turn in my letter in time, I'll be forced to accept a late grade and to switch leaders.

  • Comment removed

  • @HLiNaKRbCsFrUun I understand that, actually. I believe the N in his name is his actual surname.

  • Can you use iron pot for this one?

  • what is the potassium chloride solution ........salt and water?

  • Comment removed

  • okay what about using the powdered form of bleach containing a higher quantity of sodium hypochlorite?

  • "One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!" - Demoman

  • did you ever get around to making the potassium chlorate by electrolysis video?

  • @ILoveGirlsInGlasses :[ no i don't think he will.

  • would this work if you use calcium hyperchlorite(aq) and mix it with potassium chloride? or does calcium hyperchloride not decompose?

  • i have a question can u make potassium chlorate from potassium permanganate?

  • I really enjoy all of nurdrage's videos, but I must ask (and please do not take offence to this) why are most of your videos taped in a place that makes it look like you're using a meth lab?

  • @NegaSyrus5000 yea, every laboratory is a meth lab

  • can you buy potassium chloride?

  • I newly know that Potassium is more attracted to Chlorine than the Sodium.

    because Na has 0.9 electronegativity and K has 0.8 then Cl has 3.1 Na+Cl has 0.9:3.1 ratio of electnegativity while K+Cl has a 0.8+3.1 which is far ratio. Then that means K are attracted more to Cl because K has low electronegativity than the Na which means K easily gives up Electrons easily than the Na because the lower electronegativity, the more it gives easily electrons to Cl.

    Correct me if I'm wrong =) Ty

  • and now, POP IN A GUMMY BEAR!

  • what's the potassium chloride proportion needs to be used for bleach?

  • and how did he make the saturate the potassium??????????

  • What chlorine bleach did he use?

  • can you make a video on how to make1,3,5-Trinitroperhydro-1,3­,5-triazine

  • @tacoman8200

    Nurdrage doesn't make HEs. Try googling RDX synthesis!