LMAO funny that the chart @ 4:26 shows the Egyptians coming from nothing, LOL, since when did the Egyptians become something other than the human race, or African? whomever created that chart know's the truth of where and whom the Egyptians are they belong on the right with the Cushites not spawning from thin air
Excuse me for reposting again. If you know & state that there is no evidence E-M35 came from a back migration, then can't go on to say E-M35 came from a back migration, that's inconsistent. That was my point.
@roidujour, but the thing is we do know that E-M35 occurred in situ in Africa & not from a back migration, because there are genetics papers which tell us where it originated and dispersed to. Hence the ancestral state of the lineage is to be found in Africa.
The whole Haplogroup E being Asian is funny to me because the people who mostly entertain that idea have an agenda but in doing so most Africans become Asians, but I'll say to anyone who believes that good luck finding any evidence..
Stop talking about E1b1b sub-haplogroups,talk about E1b1b in general.
The whole E1b1b born in Africa before entered Asia,and when that happen Afro-Asiatic languages werent around.That was over 20kya,10kya before Afro-Asiatic was born.
There are still lot Caucasus Genes flowing among E1b1b carriers,which mean they must got those genes somewhere outside of Africa.
If you still not satisfied that 20kya E1b1b was present outside of Africa,then explain how long they been there.
I think you were referring to this comment not showing ? where you wrote " there is no evidence that E-M35 is from a back migration because it did not come from a back migration, that's my point.
"there weren't any papers that proves Back Migration" + "E1b1b is the best example of the Back Migrations in Africa" = Contradiction.
So you can't continue to say that it did because you are being misleading "
actually you're right, the M35 Is Ethiopian, according to geneticists.
I never deleted any of your comment,instead the system is hiding some comments even the number of views.If you pay attention you will see that since last Thursday I had 301 views,but it still the same number.
Some of them lost their Asian phenotypes due to adaptation or mixing with either Nilo-Saharan or Niger-Cordofanian.
Ex: Ancient Egyptian mixed with Nilotic;Chadic speakers mixed with Nilotic and Niger-Congo;Mali Tuareg mixed with Nilotic;Somali-Oromo-Amharan mixed with Nilotic..etc.
And all these peoples still carried Asian Genes and DNA,you don't need rocket scientist to explain you these facts,it's so easy for a smart person to understand these facts.
E1b1a is found in moderrate frequencies in Northeast Africa. Roidujour did you read the link : nothing to say about it ? The guy is Ethiopian and has L2a/E1b1a haplogroup ahahahahah DOWN!!!!
Look,I knew much more about African genetic than you,believe me.
Look,this ancient marker A1b belonged to Bushmen,but was found among Afro-Asiatic such as Amhara 16%,Hausa 13%,Oromo 10%,but that doesn't mean they belong to that lineage,it mean admixture,understood?.
You talk like high school student,look,if you cant understand Afro-Asiatic classification and their origin,please don't wast your time talking bout it.
If you are Omotic speaker,then you are not Afro-Asiatic speaker.
@roidujour Ancient admixture with Bushmen ? I DOUBT it ! No scientist has ever affiliated a marker to an Ethnic group that's a MISTAKE. Haplogroup A is African so no surprise it's found everywere. A.A. speakers are original Africans with Asian admixture.
again I suggest you go study ancient history, the Sumerian were kushites not Semites. dumb dumb.
the kushites colonized Egypt, west asia as far as southern Asia.
look stop trying so hard to proof me wrong, because I said west african and african american have nothing to do with ancient egypt, history and genetics are on my side.
you're always welcome to proof me wrong by providing an actual proof !
@THEBADASSOROMO What genetic ? L2, L3 were part of Ancient Egypt : YES, L2, L3 are found amongst West and Central Africans including African Americans and Carribeans : YES. FACTS !!!!
Les langues A.A d'Afrique sont des langues Africaines qui ont subi une influence asiatique. Les langues A.A. sont originaires d'Afrique, elles ont eu un apport linguistique d'Asie.
Jamais,ts les langues AA sont d'origine Asiatic,arreter de gueuler.
How in the hell did Semitic had J1,J2?
How Berber had mt H1?
How Chadic had R1b ?
If Afro-Asiatic is African origin,then it mean Semitic should have African DNA instead of Asian,Chadic speaker should have African DNA marker instead of Euro-Asian,Berber should have African mt marker instead of Euro-Asian.
L2*/L3* has something to do with Ancient Egypt/Nubia ? HEEELLL YES ! W. and C.Africans maybe not related to A.Egypt/Nubia by language but by genetic OFCOURSE YEEEES LOL!!!! W.Africans were the first to use iron in Africa and they brought it to Nubians.
Nubian are Nilotic,and Nilotic civilization is nothing compared to Egyptian civilization.
You just don't get it,do you?. Nubian are ancient people,they ruled North Africa prior to Afro-Asiatic invasions.And Afro-Asiatic pushed them to the south,and then Nubian came back,other Nilotic run into Sahara never came back,some became Kanuri,and others became Songhay.
You are not smart enough to understand this my brother.
@roidujour Quel linguiste ou scientifique soutient réellement tes arguments ? Je pense personne ! Nubian civilization is nothing beside Egypt ? YOU MUST BE KIDDING ME, right ?? Lol va lire des livres et t'informer s'il te plait ! What is an Afro-Asiatic invasion ???? Ha ha ha !! !! MYTH ! Nothing to say about L2/L3 ?? OUUUPS lol
@roidujour Es-tu linguiste ? Tu es juste un noir (très NOIR) raciste qui se masturbe sur ces ancêtres et sur un passé glorieux !!!! Omotic people are A.A. Et jusqu'à ce que les pro la raiye complètement elle fera toujours parti de ce collectif que tu aime tant !!!!!!!!!
@roidujour Nubian civilization is OLDER than Ancient Egypt !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nubian civilization started way before the unification of southern Egypt. A.Egyptian story started in the south (lower Nubia). And the other way around. W.Africans C.Africans had great achivements, Nok culture : they were the first to use iron in africa.
The main point is All Afro-Asiatic speakers are Asian somehow Euro-Asian.
Just look at their DNA marker,beside Afro-Asiatic speaker where can you get these E3b,J1,J2,I,H1,R1b markers without Afro-Asiatic speakers.
It just a common sens,they speaking a language family that had strong connection to Asia,and they had markers that are almost absent in Africa,and common in Euro-Asia.
What is your problem about hating on peoples just because they happen to be little distanced from you?
@roidujour NO ! I'm against people like you trying to link a marker to a tribe that's really somewhat RACIST and with no scientific objectivity NO REALL GENECITIST has ever linked a marker to a people. Only fool like keep spreading that SHIT all over internet ? Where did you get those informations ?? In forums....am i wrong ??? LOL
What you show is that A.A speakers are very heterogeneous. That's true !
@roidujour You do not understand what they're writing; they say J,R,E are carried by many A.A speakers they did not link language with DNA you're making the confusion. YOUR VIDEO SHOW A.A SPEAKERS ARE HETEROGENEOUS.
well Nexusjk have to ask him or her self this question, If African American who are the descendant of the West African have any sort of connection with Ancient Egypt? how come West African, African American, have no M78 In them? after all M78 Is very common haplogroup In East African, North Africa, west Asia, Balkan and Europe.
funny tho i keep forgetting that Chadic speakers from the Sahel share mitochondrial Dna with the Cushites from East Africa. one thing I need to point out Is that the Borana Oromo In fact do have the highest frequencies of M78, while the Ethiopians Oromo have up to 79.5% M78 In them.
borana usually live In southern Ethiopia, but they also found In North Kenya and also some earea Inside Somalia. actually my father told me that Borana are Nomads so they never In one place for too long.
Borana Oromo are first Born Oromos and yes they do speak Cushitic Oromiffa, I am Mecca Oromo and I am also a first Born Oromo. we're called first Born Oromos because we descend from the first born.
I think that guy "NexusJk" is African America who trying to steal Afro-Asiatic heritages...lol
I don't know why African America don't like to connect themselves with whom they had ancestor around the West African Coastal region,instead they claiming to be a descendant of Egyptian who were Afro-Asiatic people...,but they failed...lol
@roidujour No, to answer your question : I AM NOT African American. I'm Sudanese, and from my dad side i have an Hamer heritage, my grandmother spoke hamer-banna. Afro-Asiatic are languages not ethnicity or race.
@roidujour Ha ha ha ha ! Are you a linguist ? I DOUBT IT ! And Linguist stated Omotic languages are part of Afro-Asiatic. You're so funny . Certains spécialistes s'accordent à dire que les langues Niger-Congo sont une branche des langues Nilo-Sahariennes, avec les langues on est jamais sûre de rien ! Et que veux-tu dire par "technically" arrête de prétendre tout connaitre si tes théories se limitent à rien de concret. Sur quoi tu te base pour dire que les lanques Omotic ne sont pas A.A ?
@roidujour You FAIL dude, can you make a video about how heterogeneous Afro-Asiatic speakers are...? Cause..when it comes to mtDNA, your theory goes DOWN ha ha ha !! !! !!
Yea,Chadic speakers sharing the same Mitochondria (L3f3 ) marker with Cushitic East Africans.
Do you know how?
The earliest mt-marker among Afro-asiatic descended from L3,so Chadic speaking women are the came from East Africa or north Africa,cause they clonized East Africa,North Africa and Asia thought.
L3 is the only African female lineages left Africa and populate the World.
Chadic are the only group carrying L3 marker in west Africa.
Are you African American?,then why you mentioning African American a lot?.
How many African American are there? > no more than 38 millions,please stop mentioning African American when you talking about Africans,cause their numbers are so minuscule compared to African one Billions people,ok?
@roidujour I know , but you were the one telling African American didn't have anything to do with A.Egyptians, and A.Nubians. This proves you're wrong. A bit like L2* type it on google and it will show the results those 2 are common amongst Africans.
Shared DNA marker with Afro-Asiatic won't make you Afro-Asiatic,otherwise Nubian will be classified as Afro-Asiatic,and Chadic speaker will be classified as European or Euro-Asian ...Fair enough?
African Americans are mainly from Coastal region of west Africa.And there is no bridge that stop gene flow in African continent prior to slavery,and yes they were mixed with Afro-Asiatic long before slavery.
You said Chadic speakers are Euros cause they share the R1b, and right after that you said Bantu SPEAKING people can't be related to other africans cause they don't speak the same language but they DO share common ancestors by genetic. Don't link language with ethnic group. If you are B* and i'm B* , it means we're more connected each other than you are to the other so called Afro-Asiatic speaker. Chadic speakers aren't ALLTHEWAY R* and they're not Euros.
Right,but if you want to talk about Africans,then you need to start from their respective tribe and languages.
Century ago,Anthropologist connected Cushitic languages together,Chadic languages together,Semitic languages together,and now Geneticist agreed 100% with the connection.
All Semitic had J1,J1 marker
All Cushitic had E1b1b1 marker
All Chadic had R1b marker,so on.
If you want to talk about Africa,then you should start by tribe,that's where Africans are related.
@roidujour Can you tell me wich geneticist ever said that ??? Why you're always talking about Y-DNA while it's not carried by women ? Cause it shows how stupid your theories are. Ethnic purity IS A MYTH. And Afro-Asiatic speakers are genetically VERY heterogeneous , do you see the distance between E and J, R and E, J and R ???
how can African American have any connection to Ancient Egypt, when African American who descend from West African have no M78 In them? Ancient Egypt, kingdom of Cush, Ancient Sumer , Ancient Greek and Roman, was built and ruled by the descendant of M78.
Did you saw the map of E-M78 ? What are you guys always talking about Y-CHROMOSOME DNA while women DO NOT HAVE IT AND EVEN DO NOT SHARE IT? Sis can you tell me what were ancient dna haplogroups of A.Egyptians and A.Nubians ? Are Nubians Afro-Asiatic ? Were A.Sumerians E-M78 ? I DO NOT THINK SO. A.Sumerians were J*.
You don't understand anything in this argument,you can criticized without sens.
You don't make any sens,cause Afro-Asiatic languages are younger than 10,000 years,so comparing them with E markers is fully ignorance.
This is what happen to E1b1b,they were born in Africa,and then moved to Asia as Out of Africa.
1000s later,they then moved back to Africa with different languages,different phenotypes,and different skills.That's why they are superior than those never left Africa
Mitochondria L3 is the only African mt marker found outside of Africa,and the only people carried that marker to Asia are East Africa not Bantu mt L2.
You are jealous about Afro-Asiatic prides,huh?
You want to drag all Africans in your basket,right?,but you cannot take J1,J2,H1,R1,I with you,cause those markers are not African .
@roidujour I have SO CALLED Afro-Asiatic in my heritage, so i don't really give a fuck about your pride, White poeple didn't built pyramids but they're still leaving in better conditions than most Africans. WHAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO DO IS FOCUSING on the present day.
@roidujour Omotic are not officially rejected. Et tant qu'ils ne le seront pas ils seront TOUJOURS A.A. And Cushitic are NOT the founder of Nubia : Nubians are Nilo-Saharan not A.A. And i have Hamer heritage, i also have west-central-african heritage.
@roidujour, Omotic is an independent language family within Afrasan and not Cushitic, as shown by linguists Harold Fleming & Lionel Bender. Most linguists accept Omotic, that is why it is classified as Afrasan & not Nilo-Saharan.
#1-Afro-Asiatic language family originated in Asia,not Africa.
#2-All other Afro-Asiatic branches scored at least 70% to 78% when compared to proto-Afrasian,excepted Omotic that scored very low (48%)in the comparison.
You talking to a guy who spent most of his time studying Afro-Asiatic languages.
I read Fleming,Bender,Greenberg..etc..
Omotic speaker where in fact Nilo-Saharan speakers who gradually shifted to Cushitic.
@roidujour, According to the linguists you just mentioned; Fleming, Bender & Greenberg, they all place origin of the Afrasan language family in Africa. Afrasan languages were brought to Asia from Africa.
How can people supposedly shift to a language (Cushitic) which they don't even speak? If you look up Cushitic languages you will not find any Omotic languages.
What group of Africans brought Afro-Asiatic to Asia or Mid East?,please make it little bit clear ,cause I am about to catch you.
DNA studies rejected African origin to Afro-Asiatic family.I will be greatful if you can provide me a typical group of African who took Afro-Asiatic into Asia.
Fleming,Bender,Greenberg are all great anthropologist,but they were wrong about the origin of AA family.
@roidujour Fleming, Bender & Greenberg were not wrong they are linguists who actually studied Afrasan languages. The linguistic data does not agree with you, but you just don't want to admit it. So now you're jumping to genetics.
However I will play along with the genetics game by saying that studies of the Y-Chromosome show that most African Afrasan speakers belong to Haplogroup E.
I didn't disagreed with their hard works,I just can't accept Afro-Asiatic origin being African(Ethiopian).
Fact 1 :All Cushitic speakers are herders.
Fact 2:Goats,Lambs,Cattle,are not African animals.
My question is this:what tribe of Ethiopia took Afrasian to Asia,please I want to know that.
The only E clade in Afrasian is E1b1b,and that marker was present outside of Africa for more than 18,000 years,while Afro-Asiatic languages are younger than 10,000 years.
You are stupid,the E1a frequencies in Egypt is not even 2% to consider it as associates.
Look,even Adam A1b which was associated to San and Bushmen was found among Afro-Asiatic speakers,due to A1b low frequencies among Afro-Asiatic speakers,it wasn't considered as associate.
What was the frequencies of E2, E1a among Somalis and Egyptian?,please tell me,cause I knew the frequencies was very low ,I mean lower than 2 %..
where did you read that Oromo and Somali have (E1a) In them?
oh btw the E-M78 is a commonly occurring subclade, widely distributed in North Africa, the Horn of Africa, West Asia, Middle East, Near East, up to Southern Asia, and all of Europe.
@THEBADASSOROMO E-M78 is found all over Europe amongst PEOPLE from SOUTHERN EUROPE, AND of African ORIGIN you won't find any E* amongst white natives CUT THE CRAP !
look I do not have the time for dimwit like you. now this from the geneticists,
(E-M78) is a commonly occurring subclade, widely distributed in North Africa, the Horn of Africa, West Asia, The Middle East & Near East "up to Southern Asia", & all of Europe. The European distribution has a frequency peak centered in parts of the Balkans and Italy, and declining frequencies evident toward western, central & northeastern Europe.
@roidujour , Accepting it is your choice however this doesn't change it's African origin. Concerning the E-M35 lineages in Asia, according to Underhill et al. (2001) "a mesolithic population carrying Group III lineages with the M35/M215 mutation expanded northwards from sub-Saharan to north Africa and the Levant". This Mesolithic movement, is in agreement with linguistics of the movement of Afrasan speakers from Africa & the divergence of ancestral Semitic from the Afrasan languages in Africa.
@roidujour, Ancestral Afrasan languages were spoken by hunters & gatherers not farmers or pastoralists (food producers). So bringing up Goats ect. isn't telling me anything.
The ancestor of Afrasian were hunters?,are you kidding me ?
Then who were agriculturalist,pastoralist (food producers)?
You didn't answer my question,I asked you to tell me the first Africans who took Afrasian to Asia.Just give an idea ,cause I knew most of you believed that Ethiopian took AA languages to Asia.
I want to know if Cushitic were responsible of taken Afro-Asiatic into Asia or Ethiopian Semitic were responsible .
Please break it down,so that I can understand you.
@roidujour, Reconstructions of Ancestral Afrasan consist of pre-food producing vocabulary: "More important, reconstruction of ancestral Afro-Asiatic (irrespective of its date) using all of the family’s members does not reveal terms for plant or animal domestication (Ehret, 1979, 1984, 1995, personal communication). In other words, speakers of Common or proto-Afro-Asiatic cannot be shown to have been food producers but were apparently intensive users of wild grasses." (Keita, 2005).
@roidujour I can say only what I have read, I have not read about any specific language families or ethnic groups bringing Afrasan languages, however what I have is that it was brought by immigrants from Africa.
"An origin of Afroasiatic along the African coast of the Red Sea, supported by comparative analyses (Ehret 1995; Ehret et al. 2004), is indicated in red, although other African origins of Afroasiatic have been proposed (e.g. southwest Ethiopia; Blench 2006)." (Kitchen et al., 2009)
"Go study more about AA languages and their original home."
Interesting you should say that, you said that you study Afrasan languages, I'm sorry but I don't buy it. The linguists you said you read, Fleming, Bender & Greenberg place the origin in Africa. When you realised this you quickly claimed they are all wrong lol. You also reject the work of Christopher Ehret, but now you want me to study more about the Afrasan language family & its origin LOL! Just amazing..
@PhineasGage22 Roidujour is a troll who uses the teacher-or student trick to discredit people example :"i read more about A.A. than you" and blablabla
Kid!,you have a spirit of argument,but all your words mean nothing.
Both of you and user named PhineasGage22 know nothing about Afro-Asiatic peoples.
Clearly peoples with distinctive DNA,distinctive languages,but you still claiming them,Shame on you.
All Afro-asiatic speakers came from Mid East to Africa,and created highly sophisticated civilization,where-area Pygmies,San-Bushmen and other still hunting .
You see clear evident about AA speaker's accomplishment.
@NexusJk, I think it's clear that his views seem to centre around ideology rather than facts, otherwise 'Roidujour' would have used linguistic data to explain his views on a discussion about language, yet has failed to do so, but we are supposed to believe that 'Roidujour' has studied Afrasan languages, yeah right lol!
The same Linguistics who said Chadic speakers came from Ethiopia are the same who said this:The closest related Chadic's R1b are found in the Middle East, and to a lesser extent southern Europe.They proposed that an Eastern Saharan origin for Chadic R1b would agree with linguistic theories such as those of Christopher Ehret, that Chadic and Berber form a related group within Afroasiatic, which originated in the area of the North Eastern Sahara.
@roidujour, I thought Ehret's work is "old"? Chadic may or may not have a relationship with Berber or Cushitic, depends on the linguist. I can play games to, let's say that Chadic is closer to Berber, why is the predominant lineage of Berber speakers E-M81?
you wrote " lets say that Chadic Is closer to Berber, why Is the predominant lineage of Berber speakers E-M81" actually not all Berber speakers are E-M81, so which Berbers are you talking about?
@THEBADASSOROMO Yes I know not all Berber speakers are E-M81, I only said that it's a dominant lineage, that is all. You can see some data in Cruciani et al., 2004 for example. This entire conversation seems to be all over the place, but my main issue is with the origin of Afrasan languages.
@roidujour sorry but nothing you are saying is showing me evidence of E-M78 in African Afrasan speakers being a result of a back migration from Asia. I want to read this information for myself, can you provide me a study?
Back Migration occurred 100s times,there were back migration 40kya,30kya,20kya,10kya,the most recent was 1400 years ago ( Arabs) .
E1b1b is one of the recent Back Migration,some of them dispersed in Asia,Greece all the way to Europe.Just Google E1b1b and see the distribution.
I am not telling you these facts,but I am teaching you a lot about yourself,cause you seems to be more interesting about these rather than criticism like NexusJK is doing.
Caucasus phenotypes appeared 30+kya,long after haplogroups DE left Africa,reason why Chinese and other far east Asian look closer to native African A.
So called Caucasus phenomena was first appeared on " I " marker,but that was 30kya,meanwhile E and it clades dominated Africa and Mid East,and pushed A marker South Africa.
Progressively,these new caucasian (I,J) invaded Mid East,mixed with predominate E1b1b,the most dominant E branch outside Africa.
@roidujour, Where's the study regarding E-M78? If you read it in a study then you should be able to tell me? Or are you going continue with the smoke & mirrors..
@roidujour,` I don't need further explanation, I already know about these lineages. What I would like is proof from you. Since you are suggesting that a lineage in African Afrasan speakers is from a back migration from Asia, then you need proof from a genetics paper. I can say a lineage back migrated from Mars, but I would need evidence, that is all I would like.
@roidujour, You haven't shown me a genetics paper which states that the E-M35 in African Afrasan speakers was introduced by a back migration from Asia. Which genetics paper did you get this information from? If you can't provide a source for your claim, then I'll have to take your claim as unfounded.
Nevertheless,there weren't any papers that proves Back Migration,it was done by researchers,and I am a researcher,I was investigated Afrasian movement for years.
Unlike you,I don't accept anything I read,I have to do my own search.
So called Caucasian Phenotypes appeared only outside of Africa,and those who happen to have these genes in Africa are mostly Afro-Asiatic speakers,and most of them are Back migration.
E1b1b is the best example of the Back Migrations in Africa.
nope, not all Berbers are E-M81, I suggest you provide an actual proof to support your claim. and also linguistically Chadic have nothing to do with Egyptians, since Egyptians speak Arabic. while Ancient Egyptians language Is mostly Cushitic Oromiffa.
Look,I don't care about all of you,cause none of you know something about AA migrations.
We all knew that Africa welcomed lot of Back Migration from Euro-Asia to Egypt.
Please tell me who are the descendant of these Back Migration peoples?.
Who care about Egypt being Arabs or Oromifia?,the points are these Chadic speakers ancestors didn't came to Africa by Airplane,they walked,and their Blueprints still in Egypt,Libya,Sudan.
@roidujour E1b1b is ISN'T Asian his Dad (E1b1) and lil Brother (E1b1a) are African. R*, J* could've been Asian, but E* noooooooooooooooooo fucking way lol
@roidujour, Where is the significant frequencies of E-M81 in the "Middle East"? I see what you are doing, you have to resort to claiming African markers as "back migratioins" without any proof. I can move the goal posts also, show me evidence that E-M78 lineages in African Afrasan speakers is also a result of a back migration into Africa.
E1b1b was born in Africa close to 30,000 years ago,and shared the a common father with E1b1a..etc..,before moved to Asia 18kya,and then moved back to Africa 9kya,this is fact.
And if you consider "E" itself as African,then you are crazy,cause "E" was also born in Asia before came back to Africa.
When that happen,there were no Caucasian around 60kya.
@roidujour, You need to provide evidence that the E-M78 carried by African Afrasan speakers is from a back migration into Africa, show me a study which says this.
You said the earliest Afro-Asiatic speakers were hunters not agriculturalist ?
Can you tell me one Afro-Asiatic speaker known as hunter?.
We all looking to Ethiopia when talking about Afro-Asiatic,so please tell me what Ethiopian tribe known to be hunters?
Afro-Asiatic is Mid Eastern Origin,the reason why there are lot of diversities in Africa was because of different location of their migration in that continent.
Go study more about AA languages and their original home.
@roidujour Genetically Chadic speakers have really nothing do to with African A.A. speakers who are mostly E* (it means they are more related to other E* from West Africa). Ethiopian E1b1b beside (SO CALLED) West African E1b1a have more to do than Chadic R*, FACTS !!!! Et prouve moi par A+B que Tutankhamon était R* , je vais t'envoyer une vidéo qui démontre qu'il n'y à pas de preuve réel.
@roidujour I think those markers were brought by Eurasian invaders. If no give me the exact date of back migration from A.A. : i think they were basically Africans and they had a linguistic/genetic migration from Asia. Black people (the ancestors of Chadic speakers were already there).
@roidujour New phenotypes was brought by eurasian invaders not from a come back from the dead of E1b1b ahahaha. Ne me parle pas du passé , cela remonte à plus de 3000 ans, ce qui compte c'est le présent, actuellement les Chadiens vous n'êtes pas prêt de redevenir blanc. LOL
Omotic got it sub-family membership through Cushitic branch not through proto-Afrasian,do you understand what that mean?
It mean that Omotic was joined languages ( Cushitic + Nilo-Saharan ),due to long interaction between two body systems (Nilo-saharan + Cushitic),these former Nilo-Saharan speakers merged almost unrecognizable in to Cushitic.
You need to read more,and more,and pay attention more,cause wikipedia cannot help you understand these.
@roidujour Bantu speakers from CENTRAL AFRICA DO share the L3 subgroups such as L3e, L3e1, L3f3 . L3e, L3f1b1 are found amongst African-Americans, Afro-Brazilians and other Carribeans i'm a member of Dna-Forums . com and i see many African-Americans sharing this haplogroup.
@roidujour L2* is a common haplogroup considerd Bantu by Genographic but it is really common amongst Afro-Asiatic : hard to believe ? BUT IT'S TRUE ! Read the article of Wikipedia about L2* ...they have quotes so do not come with shit like everybody use it and blablabla .
I think you were talking about E1b1b1g (E-M293) which a sub-clade of (E-M35) NOT (E-M78) .
actually Ancient Sumerian were (M78) that's why M78 and also M35 Is a common haplogroup In west Asia, specially In Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Balkan and Europe.
@THEBADASSOROMO E1b1b1g is the youngest. subclades of E* are only found in SOUTHern Europe and Asia because those two are near the African continent ! Elsewhere You'LL find NO E*. Et pourquoi tu ramène encore les y-chrom sur le tapis ??? ! Je te dis que ce n'est guère représentatif vu que seul les mâles en sont porteurs !!!!!!!! ALL E* haplogroup is of AFRICAN origin.
Europe, Asia? what are you talking about? E1b1b1g (E-M293) This sub-clade of E-M35 was announced in Henn et al. (2008), which associated it with the spread of pastoralism from Eastern Africa into Southern Africa. So far high levels have been found in specific ethnic groups in Tanzania and Southern Africa. Highest were the Datog (43%), Khwe (Kxoe) (31%), Burunge (28%), and Sandawe (24%). Henn et al. (2008) in their study also found two Bantu-speaking Kenyan males with the M293 mutation.
@THEBADASSOROMO A.Sumerians were J* i think, and do you have the results ? I bet no. And people from that era are mostly J*, like Arabic people they are mostly J* not E*.
I think you're not paying attention to history or to genetics , the Sumerian were not Semites, that's Is well known fact, so how can they be (J) ? nonsense arab's origin Is Yemen not modern day Iraq. oh people of that era were mostly Cushites since Cushites colonized most of west Asia up to some part of Southern Asia.
@THEBADASSOROMO Sumerians weren't Semitics cause their language wasn't semitic their language has NO CLASSIFICATION Semitic are languages : NOT ETHNIC.
@roidujour Dude, don't forget that CHAD is IN MIDDLE AFRICA and you SURE DO HAVE SO CALLED BANTU+WEST AFRICAN roots in your blood !!!!!! YES THAT'S A FACT !!!!!!!!!
@roidujour Tu ne sais jamais t'exprimer sans t'empêcher de t'attaquer à ma personne. Je ne te connais même pas et toi non plus d'ailleurs donc ne t'avise plus de critiquer. Tu ne connais pas grand chose alors ta superiorité linguistique tu te la garde. D'ailleurs les personnes comme toi qui croient que leur ancêtres ont apporté la civilisation; les personnes de langues Chadic n'ont pas d'écriture (si pour toi la civilisation se limite à la découverte de l'écriture)
LMAO funny that the chart @ 4:26 shows the Egyptians coming from nothing, LOL, since when did the Egyptians become something other than the human race, or African? whomever created that chart know's the truth of where and whom the Egyptians are they belong on the right with the Cushites not spawning from thin air
MaahesHeruAmun 3 months ago
@whistleblow
Cushitic speakers are not all ethiopian,they are also somalis,kenyan & tanzanian.
They all from back migration to africa,10,000 years ago.And they came to africa as mid easterns,with all mid eastern phenotypes.
They look the way are because of mixing with nilotic speaker ( nubian,dinka..and other omotic speaker).
Apparently,they don't look like their early ancestors who looks more mid easterns.
They are not alone,process like these happen before them,and after them.
roidujour 1 year ago
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PhineasGage22 1 year ago
My comments are not appearing for some reason..
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
Excuse me for reposting again. If you know & state that there is no evidence E-M35 came from a back migration, then can't go on to say E-M35 came from a back migration, that's inconsistent. That was my point.
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
You and I know little about how many times Back Migration occurred in Africa.
We still searching,and we will keep searching until we all satisfied.
I even doubt about the entire E marker to be Africa,cause I believe E was born in Asia or Africa.
Consider E to be Back migration?
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour, but the thing is we do know that E-M35 occurred in situ in Africa & not from a back migration, because there are genetics papers which tell us where it originated and dispersed to. Hence the ancestral state of the lineage is to be found in Africa.
The whole Haplogroup E being Asian is funny to me because the people who mostly entertain that idea have an agenda but in doing so most Africans become Asians, but I'll say to anyone who believes that good luck finding any evidence..
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
Stop talking about E1b1b sub-haplogroups,talk about E1b1b in general.
The whole E1b1b born in Africa before entered Asia,and when that happen Afro-Asiatic languages werent around.That was over 20kya,10kya before Afro-Asiatic was born.
There are still lot Caucasus Genes flowing among E1b1b carriers,which mean they must got those genes somewhere outside of Africa.
If you still not satisfied that 20kya E1b1b was present outside of Africa,then explain how long they been there.
roidujour 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22 ,
I think you were referring to this comment not showing ? where you wrote " there is no evidence that E-M35 is from a back migration because it did not come from a back migration, that's my point.
"there weren't any papers that proves Back Migration" + "E1b1b is the best example of the Back Migrations in Africa" = Contradiction.
So you can't continue to say that it did because you are being misleading "
actually you're right, the M35 Is Ethiopian, according to geneticists.
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
What comments?
I never deleted any of your comment,instead the system is hiding some comments even the number of views.If you pay attention you will see that since last Thursday I had 301 views,but it still the same number.
nothing changed.
Youtube is screwing up...lol
roidujour 1 year ago
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PhineasGage22 1 year ago
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PhineasGage22 1 year ago
Some of them lost their Asian phenotypes due to adaptation or mixing with either Nilo-Saharan or Niger-Cordofanian.
Ex: Ancient Egyptian mixed with Nilotic;Chadic speakers mixed with Nilotic and Niger-Congo;Mali Tuareg mixed with Nilotic;Somali-Oromo-Amharan mixed with Nilotic..etc.
And all these peoples still carried Asian Genes and DNA,you don't need rocket scientist to explain you these facts,it's so easy for a smart person to understand these facts.
All Afrasian speakers are Asian.
roidujour 1 year ago
E1b1a is found in moderrate frequencies in Northeast Africa. Roidujour did you read the link : nothing to say about it ? The guy is Ethiopian and has L2a/E1b1a haplogroup ahahahahah DOWN!!!!
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Look,I knew much more about African genetic than you,believe me.
Look,this ancient marker A1b belonged to Bushmen,but was found among Afro-Asiatic such as Amhara 16%,Hausa 13%,Oromo 10%,but that doesn't mean they belong to that lineage,it mean admixture,understood?.
You talk like high school student,look,if you cant understand Afro-Asiatic classification and their origin,please don't wast your time talking bout it.
If you are Omotic speaker,then you are not Afro-Asiatic speaker.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour Ancient admixture with Bushmen ? I DOUBT it ! No scientist has ever affiliated a marker to an Ethnic group that's a MISTAKE. Haplogroup A is African so no surprise it's found everywere. A.A. speakers are original Africans with Asian admixture.
NexusJk 1 year ago
Tu as lu l'article que je t'ai envoyé à propos de E1b1a ? Je te renvoie car tu semble avoir des troubles de la mémoire ha ha ha ha !
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk ,
again I suggest you go study ancient history, the Sumerian were kushites not Semites. dumb dumb.
the kushites colonized Egypt, west asia as far as southern Asia.
look stop trying so hard to proof me wrong, because I said west african and african american have nothing to do with ancient egypt, history and genetics are on my side.
you're always welcome to proof me wrong by providing an actual proof !
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO What genetic ? L2, L3 were part of Ancient Egypt : YES, L2, L3 are found amongst West and Central Africans including African Americans and Carribeans : YES. FACTS !!!!
NexusJk 1 year ago
Les langues A.A d'Afrique sont des langues Africaines qui ont subi une influence asiatique. Les langues A.A. sont originaires d'Afrique, elles ont eu un apport linguistique d'Asie.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Jamais,ts les langues AA sont d'origine Asiatic,arreter de gueuler.
How in the hell did Semitic had J1,J2?
How Berber had mt H1?
How Chadic had R1b ?
If Afro-Asiatic is African origin,then it mean Semitic should have African DNA instead of Asian,Chadic speaker should have African DNA marker instead of Euro-Asian,Berber should have African mt marker instead of Euro-Asian.
Go get some help my friend.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour YOU need help , i'm Out enough facts ahahaha
NexusJk 1 year ago
L2*/L3* has something to do with Ancient Egypt/Nubia ? HEEELLL YES ! W. and C.Africans maybe not related to A.Egypt/Nubia by language but by genetic OFCOURSE YEEEES LOL!!!! W.Africans were the first to use iron in Africa and they brought it to Nubians.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Nubian are Nilotic,and Nilotic civilization is nothing compared to Egyptian civilization.
You just don't get it,do you?. Nubian are ancient people,they ruled North Africa prior to Afro-Asiatic invasions.And Afro-Asiatic pushed them to the south,and then Nubian came back,other Nilotic run into Sahara never came back,some became Kanuri,and others became Songhay.
You are not smart enough to understand this my brother.
You have an empty brain...lol
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour Quel linguiste ou scientifique soutient réellement tes arguments ? Je pense personne ! Nubian civilization is nothing beside Egypt ? YOU MUST BE KIDDING ME, right ?? Lol va lire des livres et t'informer s'il te plait ! What is an Afro-Asiatic invasion ???? Ha ha ha !! !! MYTH ! Nothing to say about L2/L3 ?? OUUUPS lol
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Have ever read something about Nilotic peoples?,do even know why they coined Nilo-Saharan to Nubian languages?
You are the one need to read more,cause you seemed to be less smart person with Grand Esprit de critique.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour Dis moi réellement qui soutiens tes théories stupides ? Personne...alors j'attends toujours tes thoughts sur L2/L3. Ha ha ha !
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
C'est toi qui soutiens les theories stupide,puisque ne comprend rien dans tous ceci.
La famille Afro-Asiatic est une famille d'riginaire Asiatic,tous les locuteurs D'Afro-Asiatic sauf Omotic sont fortement connecter a Asie Orient.
Tu ne fais que de gueuler,et tu joue toujour dans la cour des grand en jouent ta tete..lol
Tu vas te faire calmer? ou je te force de calmer?...lol
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour Es-tu linguiste ? Tu es juste un noir (très NOIR) raciste qui se masturbe sur ces ancêtres et sur un passé glorieux !!!! Omotic people are A.A. Et jusqu'à ce que les pro la raiye complètement elle fera toujours parti de ce collectif que tu aime tant !!!!!!!!!
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Je suis fiere d'etre Africain,et fiere etre intelligent que toi.
Tu es nee pour etre stupide,raison pr lesquels tu joue ta tete ici dans les cours des superieur.
Je teferai un esclave de moi,si tu continue a m'ennuier.
saisis?
Je suis un haut linguist,et j'ai rejeter Omotic,par ce que Omotic ne qualifie pas mes classement d'Afro-Asiatic.
Il faut au moin 50% des mots Afro-asiatic presenter pour qualifier L'abonnement d'entrer dans la famille Afriasian.
Omotic = 35% = rejet.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour Mdr linguiste toi ? J'en doute fort , ton niveau de français est pathétiquement pitoyable. Je parle mieux français que toi .
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Regarder.?..lol
Tu joue ta tete dans la cour des grands,tu mes sent comme un bebe qui pleur pour rien.
Tu ne fais que de copier les postes de Wiki,and poste les ici sur Youtube.
Reveille toi,si non tu seras en retard.
I am tired with your unnecessary dialogues .
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour L3 A.A and only found amongst E., N.Africans and other A.A. speakers ??? I DOUBT IT ahahaah
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Aller faire PiPi...lol
roidujour 1 year ago
@NexusJk
They are Superior is thinking,they had very sophisticated tools,they (Afro-Asiatic peoples) built and ruled Ancient Egypt.
Nubian learned from Afro-Asiatic people.
Prove me wrong.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour Nubian civilization is OLDER than Ancient Egypt !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nubian civilization started way before the unification of southern Egypt. A.Egyptian story started in the south (lower Nubia). And the other way around. W.Africans C.Africans had great achivements, Nok culture : they were the first to use iron in africa.
NexusJk 1 year ago
L3e is central-african.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
The main point is All Afro-Asiatic speakers are Asian somehow Euro-Asian.
Just look at their DNA marker,beside Afro-Asiatic speaker where can you get these E3b,J1,J2,I,H1,R1b markers without Afro-Asiatic speakers.
It just a common sens,they speaking a language family that had strong connection to Asia,and they had markers that are almost absent in Africa,and common in Euro-Asia.
What is your problem about hating on peoples just because they happen to be little distanced from you?
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour NO ! I'm against people like you trying to link a marker to a tribe that's really somewhat RACIST and with no scientific objectivity NO REALL GENECITIST has ever linked a marker to a people. Only fool like keep spreading that SHIT all over internet ? Where did you get those informations ?? In forums....am i wrong ??? LOL
What you show is that A.A speakers are very heterogeneous. That's true !
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Look,I am not Keita,Cruciani or any pretended Anthropologist who put all these articles together,so take your hatred far away from me.
I saw your page,it full with hatred,I knew who you are,don't reveal yourself,cause I already knows you.
You are self hater,please don't hate me for interpreting Web posts or wiki posts.
Go to wiki or any sources you been fishing in and tell them to stop connecting DNA with languages,not me.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour You do not understand what they're writing; they say J,R,E are carried by many A.A speakers they did not link language with DNA you're making the confusion. YOUR VIDEO SHOW A.A SPEAKERS ARE HETEROGENEOUS.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
If Afro-Asiatic isn't languages related article ,then what's it?
If Afro-Asiatic brought J1,J2,R1b into Africa,then who are they?
You arguing for no reason,what is your problems?
I know you cannot denied Afro-Asiatic languages being different from yours,right?,then do you also think these peoples aren't different from you?
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour Lol...anyway.
NexusJk 1 year ago
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@roidujour ,
well Nexusjk have to ask him or her self this question, If African American who are the descendant of the West African have any sort of connection with Ancient Egypt? how come West African, African American, have no M78 In them? after all M78 Is very common haplogroup In East African, North Africa, west Asia, Balkan and Europe.
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
funny tho i keep forgetting that Chadic speakers from the Sahel share mitochondrial Dna with the Cushites from East Africa. one thing I need to point out Is that the Borana Oromo In fact do have the highest frequencies of M78, while the Ethiopians Oromo have up to 79.5% M78 In them.
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO
Where did Borana Oromo lives?,are they also Ethiopian or Somalis?
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour ,
borana usually live In southern Ethiopia, but they also found In North Kenya and also some earea Inside Somalia. actually my father told me that Borana are Nomads so they never In one place for too long.
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO
Oh!,are they also speak the same Oromo languages or they have their own dialect?
roidujour 1 year ago
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THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@roidujour ,
Borana Oromo are first Born Oromos and yes they do speak Cushitic Oromiffa, I am Mecca Oromo and I am also a first Born Oromo. we're called first Born Oromos because we descend from the first born.
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO
So you are Mecca Oromo,which mean you came from Mecca,Saudi Arabia,right?...lol
Do you know there is an ancient city in Saudi Arabia called Mecca?...lol
You originally came from Saudi Arabian penninsula...lol.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour ,
yes I am a Macca Oromo, no we we're not from Saudi Arabia lol.
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO
I think that guy "NexusJk" is African America who trying to steal Afro-Asiatic heritages...lol
I don't know why African America don't like to connect themselves with whom they had ancestor around the West African Coastal region,instead they claiming to be a descendant of Egyptian who were Afro-Asiatic people...,but they failed...lol
roidujour 1 year ago
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THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO
African American = self haters...lol
They dragging all Africans into their slavery.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour No, to answer your question : I AM NOT African American. I'm Sudanese, and from my dad side i have an Hamer heritage, my grandmother spoke hamer-banna. Afro-Asiatic are languages not ethnicity or race.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Look,not all Anthropologist accepted Omotic language as Afro-Asiatic.
Hamer language is Omotic,and Omotic speaker were former Nilo-Saharan speakers before shifted into Afro-Asiatic via Cushitic.
Technically Omotic are not Afro-Asiatic,they were totally influenced by Cushitic languages .
You have no idea about who I am,I don't care about your argument,cause they don't make any sens to me.
I sees Afro-Asiatic speakers through a different eyes other than yours.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour Ha ha ha ha ! Are you a linguist ? I DOUBT IT ! And Linguist stated Omotic languages are part of Afro-Asiatic. You're so funny . Certains spécialistes s'accordent à dire que les langues Niger-Congo sont une branche des langues Nilo-Sahariennes, avec les langues on est jamais sûre de rien ! Et que veux-tu dire par "technically" arrête de prétendre tout connaitre si tes théories se limitent à rien de concret. Sur quoi tu te base pour dire que les lanques Omotic ne sont pas A.A ?
NexusJk 1 year ago
@roidujour And not all anthropologist accepted A.A as a group.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@roidujour The Nilo-Saharan group is also not really accepted by all anthropologist some them want to link this group to Niger-Congo.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@roidujour You FAIL dude, can you make a video about how heterogeneous Afro-Asiatic speakers are...? Cause..when it comes to mtDNA, your theory goes DOWN ha ha ha !! !! !!
NexusJk 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO
Yea,Chadic speakers sharing the same Mitochondria (L3f3 ) marker with Cushitic East Africans.
Do you know how?
The earliest mt-marker among Afro-asiatic descended from L3,so Chadic speaking women are the came from East Africa or north Africa,cause they clonized East Africa,North Africa and Asia thought.
L3 is the only African female lineages left Africa and populate the World.
Chadic are the only group carrying L3 marker in west Africa.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour L3 is found in African Americans too.
NexusJk 1 year ago 2
@NexusJk
Are you African American?,then why you mentioning African American a lot?.
How many African American are there? > no more than 38 millions,please stop mentioning African American when you talking about Africans,cause their numbers are so minuscule compared to African one Billions people,ok?
Let's go back to Africa.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour No i'm not African American. L3 is a common haplogroup in Africa a bit like L2.
NexusJk 1 year ago 2
@NexusJk
Right,but L3 is an East African marker,check the map.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour I know , but you were the one telling African American didn't have anything to do with A.Egyptians, and A.Nubians. This proves you're wrong. A bit like L2* type it on google and it will show the results those 2 are common amongst Africans.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Shared DNA marker with Afro-Asiatic won't make you Afro-Asiatic,otherwise Nubian will be classified as Afro-Asiatic,and Chadic speaker will be classified as European or Euro-Asian ...Fair enough?
African Americans are mainly from Coastal region of west Africa.And there is no bridge that stop gene flow in African continent prior to slavery,and yes they were mixed with Afro-Asiatic long before slavery.
Fair enough?
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour CRAP CRAP AND CRAP
You said Chadic speakers are Euros cause they share the R1b, and right after that you said Bantu SPEAKING people can't be related to other africans cause they don't speak the same language but they DO share common ancestors by genetic. Don't link language with ethnic group. If you are B* and i'm B* , it means we're more connected each other than you are to the other so called Afro-Asiatic speaker. Chadic speakers aren't ALLTHEWAY R* and they're not Euros.
NexusJk 1 year ago 2
@roidujour Indo-European and Afro-Asiatic is not da same.
NexusJk 1 year ago 2
@NexusJk
Right,but if you want to talk about Africans,then you need to start from their respective tribe and languages.
Century ago,Anthropologist connected Cushitic languages together,Chadic languages together,Semitic languages together,and now Geneticist agreed 100% with the connection.
All Semitic had J1,J1 marker
All Cushitic had E1b1b1 marker
All Chadic had R1b marker,so on.
If you want to talk about Africa,then you should start by tribe,that's where Africans are related.
Understood?
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour Can you tell me wich geneticist ever said that ??? Why you're always talking about Y-DNA while it's not carried by women ? Cause it shows how stupid your theories are. Ethnic purity IS A MYTH. And Afro-Asiatic speakers are genetically VERY heterogeneous , do you see the distance between E and J, R and E, J and R ???
NexusJk 1 year ago
@roidujour I'm not talking about language , i'm talking about roots...L2/L3 are common dna haplogroups.
NexusJk 1 year ago 2
@NexusJk ,
how can African American have any connection to Ancient Egypt, when African American who descend from West African have no M78 In them? Ancient Egypt, kingdom of Cush, Ancient Sumer , Ancient Greek and Roman, was built and ruled by the descendant of M78.
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO Oh Really ? LOL
Did you saw the map of E-M78 ? What are you guys always talking about Y-CHROMOSOME DNA while women DO NOT HAVE IT AND EVEN DO NOT SHARE IT? Sis can you tell me what were ancient dna haplogroups of A.Egyptians and A.Nubians ? Are Nubians Afro-Asiatic ? Were A.Sumerians E-M78 ? I DO NOT THINK SO. A.Sumerians were J*.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO Is E-M78 found in Southern Africa ? YES !
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
You don't understand anything in this argument,you can criticized without sens.
You don't make any sens,cause Afro-Asiatic languages are younger than 10,000 years,so comparing them with E markers is fully ignorance.
This is what happen to E1b1b,they were born in Africa,and then moved to Asia as Out of Africa.
1000s later,they then moved back to Africa with different languages,different phenotypes,and different skills.That's why they are superior than those never left Africa
roidujour 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Have you ever heard of Out of Africa theories?.
Have you ever heard of Back to Africa's theories?
Do you know who involved in those migrations?
Mitochondria L3 is the only African mt marker found outside of Africa,and the only people carried that marker to Asia are East Africa not Bantu mt L2.
You are jealous about Afro-Asiatic prides,huh?
You want to drag all Africans in your basket,right?,but you cannot take J1,J2,H1,R1,I with you,cause those markers are not African .
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour I have SO CALLED Afro-Asiatic in my heritage, so i don't really give a fuck about your pride, White poeple didn't built pyramids but they're still leaving in better conditions than most Africans. WHAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO DO IS FOCUSING on the present day.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Omotic are not Afro-Asiatic,trust me,Omotic are Nilo-Saharan speakers,and then shifted to Cushitic languages.
Omotic speakers were in Ethiopia before Cushitic came to Africa,and pushed them into South,and influenced their languages.
Lot of linguistic rejected or removed Omotic from Afro-Asiatic.
Don't think you are Afro-Asiatic,cause if you are Hamer,then you are Omotic,and Omotic was excluded from Afro-Asiatic .
You don't see Omotic in my video,cause they are not Afro-Asiatic
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour Omotic are not officially rejected. Et tant qu'ils ne le seront pas ils seront TOUJOURS A.A. And Cushitic are NOT the founder of Nubia : Nubians are Nilo-Saharan not A.A. And i have Hamer heritage, i also have west-central-african heritage.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@roidujour L2* Bantu ? I DON'T THINK SO ahahahaahah if yes it means 2/4 (+/-) of AFRICA is BANTU ahahha lol L2* is widely distributed, right ?
NexusJk 1 year ago 2
@roidujour, NexusJk is correct Omotic languages are Afrasan ("Afro-Asiatic") languages.
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
I rejected Omotic language from Afro-Asiatic,because I studied Omotic,it's not Afro-Asiatic,but Nilo-Saharan speakers who shifted to Cushitic .
Just pay attention to my map at 0:02,you will see that Omotic derived from Cushitic not from Afro-Asiatic tree.
Omotic was rejected by lot of Linguistic due to controversial.
I will rather accept Beja than Omotic,cause Omotic membership score was very low among all Afrasian .
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour, Omotic is an independent language family within Afrasan and not Cushitic, as shown by linguists Harold Fleming & Lionel Bender. Most linguists accept Omotic, that is why it is classified as Afrasan & not Nilo-Saharan.
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
Have you paid attention to my map?
#1-Afro-Asiatic language family originated in Asia,not Africa.
#2-All other Afro-Asiatic branches scored at least 70% to 78% when compared to proto-Afrasian,excepted Omotic that scored very low (48%)in the comparison.
You talking to a guy who spent most of his time studying Afro-Asiatic languages.
I read Fleming,Bender,Greenberg..etc..
Omotic speaker where in fact Nilo-Saharan speakers who gradually shifted to Cushitic.
Go read more.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour, According to the linguists you just mentioned; Fleming, Bender & Greenberg, they all place origin of the Afrasan language family in Africa. Afrasan languages were brought to Asia from Africa.
How can people supposedly shift to a language (Cushitic) which they don't even speak? If you look up Cushitic languages you will not find any Omotic languages.
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
Afro-Asiatic was brought to Asia by Africans?
What group of Africans brought Afro-Asiatic to Asia or Mid East?,please make it little bit clear ,cause I am about to catch you.
DNA studies rejected African origin to Afro-Asiatic family.I will be greatful if you can provide me a typical group of African who took Afro-Asiatic into Asia.
Fleming,Bender,Greenberg are all great anthropologist,but they were wrong about the origin of AA family.
New DNA studies proved them wrong .
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour Fleming, Bender & Greenberg were not wrong they are linguists who actually studied Afrasan languages. The linguistic data does not agree with you, but you just don't want to admit it. So now you're jumping to genetics.
However I will play along with the genetics game by saying that studies of the Y-Chromosome show that most African Afrasan speakers belong to Haplogroup E.
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
I didn't disagreed with their hard works,I just can't accept Afro-Asiatic origin being African(Ethiopian).
Fact 1 :All Cushitic speakers are herders.
Fact 2:Goats,Lambs,Cattle,are not African animals.
My question is this:what tribe of Ethiopia took Afrasian to Asia,please I want to know that.
The only E clade in Afrasian is E1b1b,and that marker was present outside of Africa for more than 18,000 years,while Afro-Asiatic languages are younger than 10,000 years.
Can you explain?
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour I don't think so E1a is found amongst Egyptians, Morrocan Berbers...E2 is found amongst Somalis, Oromo. FACTS !!!!
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
You are stupid,the E1a frequencies in Egypt is not even 2% to consider it as associates.
Look,even Adam A1b which was associated to San and Bushmen was found among Afro-Asiatic speakers,due to A1b low frequencies among Afro-Asiatic speakers,it wasn't considered as associate.
What was the frequencies of E2, E1a among Somalis and Egyptian?,please tell me,cause I knew the frequencies was very low ,I mean lower than 2 %..
Give me a link!
roidujour 1 year ago
@NexusJk ,
where did you read that Oromo and Somali have (E1a) In them?
oh btw the E-M78 is a commonly occurring subclade, widely distributed in North Africa, the Horn of Africa, West Asia, Middle East, Near East, up to Southern Asia, and all of Europe.
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO All of Europe are you Kidding me ? Western/Northern Euros like French and British DO NOT CARRY E* subclades
NexusJk 1 year ago
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THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO E-M78 is found all over Europe amongst PEOPLE from SOUTHERN EUROPE, AND of African ORIGIN you won't find any E* amongst white natives CUT THE CRAP !
NexusJk 1 year ago
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@NexusJk ,
look I do not have the time for dimwit like you. now this from the geneticists,
(E-M78) is a commonly occurring subclade, widely distributed in North Africa, the Horn of Africa, West Asia, The Middle East & Near East "up to Southern Asia", & all of Europe. The European distribution has a frequency peak centered in parts of the Balkans and Italy, and declining frequencies evident toward western, central & northeastern Europe.
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@NexusJk .
oh who are the Native European? are you saying that the Italian, Greek, and southern European are not white?
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO No, i did not say they weren't white but they have Ethiopian DNA. Other euros do not share that kind of haplogroup.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@roidujour , Accepting it is your choice however this doesn't change it's African origin. Concerning the E-M35 lineages in Asia, according to Underhill et al. (2001) "a mesolithic population carrying Group III lineages with the M35/M215 mutation expanded northwards from sub-Saharan to north Africa and the Levant". This Mesolithic movement, is in agreement with linguistics of the movement of Afrasan speakers from Africa & the divergence of ancestral Semitic from the Afrasan languages in Africa.
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@roidujour, Ancestral Afrasan languages were spoken by hunters & gatherers not farmers or pastoralists (food producers). So bringing up Goats ect. isn't telling me anything.
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
The ancestor of Afrasian were hunters?,are you kidding me ?
Then who were agriculturalist,pastoralist (food producers)?
You didn't answer my question,I asked you to tell me the first Africans who took Afrasian to Asia.Just give an idea ,cause I knew most of you believed that Ethiopian took AA languages to Asia.
I want to know if Cushitic were responsible of taken Afro-Asiatic into Asia or Ethiopian Semitic were responsible .
Please break it down,so that I can understand you.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour, Reconstructions of Ancestral Afrasan consist of pre-food producing vocabulary: "More important, reconstruction of ancestral Afro-Asiatic (irrespective of its date) using all of the family’s members does not reveal terms for plant or animal domestication (Ehret, 1979, 1984, 1995, personal communication). In other words, speakers of Common or proto-Afro-Asiatic cannot be shown to have been food producers but were apparently intensive users of wild grasses." (Keita, 2005).
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
Ehret works are old,we have new discovered that rejected African origin of Afrasian.
Afrasian languages are very young to even mention something like pre-food vocabulary.
I asked you to give me a branch of Afrasian responsible of taken Afrasian into Asia,because I am 100% sure is not Berber neither Chadic branches.
Please clarify little bit,and give me a concrete idea how the transportation happen.
If Cushitic were responsible just tell me,cause I know I will catch you soon .
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour I can say only what I have read, I have not read about any specific language families or ethnic groups bringing Afrasan languages, however what I have is that it was brought by immigrants from Africa.
"An origin of Afroasiatic along the African coast of the Red Sea, supported by comparative analyses (Ehret 1995; Ehret et al. 2004), is indicated in red, although other African origins of Afroasiatic have been proposed (e.g. southwest Ethiopia; Blench 2006)." (Kitchen et al., 2009)
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@roidujour, Which new discoveries reject the African origin of Afrasan? Don't tell me we are playing the genetics game again..?
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@roidujour, @roidujour
"Go study more about AA languages and their original home."
Interesting you should say that, you said that you study Afrasan languages, I'm sorry but I don't buy it. The linguists you said you read, Fleming, Bender & Greenberg place the origin in Africa. When you realised this you quickly claimed they are all wrong lol. You also reject the work of Christopher Ehret, but now you want me to study more about the Afrasan language family & its origin LOL! Just amazing..
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22 Roidujour is a troll who uses the teacher-or student trick to discredit people example :"i read more about A.A. than you" and blablabla
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Kid!,you have a spirit of argument,but all your words mean nothing.
Both of you and user named PhineasGage22 know nothing about Afro-Asiatic peoples.
Clearly peoples with distinctive DNA,distinctive languages,but you still claiming them,Shame on you.
All Afro-asiatic speakers came from Mid East to Africa,and created highly sophisticated civilization,where-area Pygmies,San-Bushmen and other still hunting .
You see clear evident about AA speaker's accomplishment.
Good jobs,keep it up.
roidujour 1 year ago
@NexusJk, I think it's clear that his views seem to centre around ideology rather than facts, otherwise 'Roidujour' would have used linguistic data to explain his views on a discussion about language, yet has failed to do so, but we are supposed to believe that 'Roidujour' has studied Afrasan languages, yeah right lol!
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
Yea,you know that J1,J2,R1,H1,I marker...etc boycotted African origin of Afrasian.
Not just I read Flemming ,Ehret,Greenberg,I did my own research,cause I believed myself .
If Afrasian is African ,then why Chadic ,Semitic branches who supposed to come straight from Ethiopia had very different Haplogroup markers?
Can you explain why?
These Anthropologist said Chadic came from Ethiopian,but there were sign of Chadic migration out of Ethiopia,they shown very different root.
roidujour 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
The same Linguistics who said Chadic speakers came from Ethiopia are the same who said this:The closest related Chadic's R1b are found in the Middle East, and to a lesser extent southern Europe.They proposed that an Eastern Saharan origin for Chadic R1b would agree with linguistic theories such as those of Christopher Ehret, that Chadic and Berber form a related group within Afroasiatic, which originated in the area of the North Eastern Sahara.
They made mistake huh?
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour, I thought Ehret's work is "old"? Chadic may or may not have a relationship with Berber or Cushitic, depends on the linguist. I can play games to, let's say that Chadic is closer to Berber, why is the predominant lineage of Berber speakers E-M81?
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22 ,
you wrote " lets say that Chadic Is closer to Berber, why Is the predominant lineage of Berber speakers E-M81" actually not all Berber speakers are E-M81, so which Berbers are you talking about?
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO Yes I know not all Berber speakers are E-M81, I only said that it's a dominant lineage, that is all. You can see some data in Cruciani et al., 2004 for example. This entire conversation seems to be all over the place, but my main issue is with the origin of Afrasan languages.
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
Reason why I brought this,is to show you that Out of Africa occurred several time,some were successful,others died out.
Africa was birth place of humanity,but without Asia,mankind wouldn't have survived.
Tell me how many Africans carrying "A" marker,where were B,C?
Why Africa had only 3 Haplogroups,while Asia had dozens ?
E1b1b was in Asia 1000s years before Afrasian appeared in Mid East.
Long before,E1b1b dominated Mid East before Caucasus J,I, pushed them back to Africa.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour sorry but nothing you are saying is showing me evidence of E-M78 in African Afrasan speakers being a result of a back migration from Asia. I want to read this information for myself, can you provide me a study?
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
What?...lol
Back Migration occurred 100s times,there were back migration 40kya,30kya,20kya,10kya,the most recent was 1400 years ago ( Arabs) .
E1b1b is one of the recent Back Migration,some of them dispersed in Asia,Greece all the way to Europe.Just Google E1b1b and see the distribution.
I am not telling you these facts,but I am teaching you a lot about yourself,cause you seems to be more interesting about these rather than criticism like NexusJK is doing.
roidujour 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
Caucasus phenotypes appeared 30+kya,long after haplogroups DE left Africa,reason why Chinese and other far east Asian look closer to native African A.
So called Caucasus phenomena was first appeared on " I " marker,but that was 30kya,meanwhile E and it clades dominated Africa and Mid East,and pushed A marker South Africa.
Progressively,these new caucasian (I,J) invaded Mid East,mixed with predominate E1b1b,the most dominant E branch outside Africa.
I know what I was doing.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour, Where's the study regarding E-M78? If you read it in a study then you should be able to tell me? Or are you going continue with the smoke & mirrors..
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
Hey,why you talking about E-M78 ?
I thought you understood that E1b1b is the father of E-M78 sub-clade, and others.?,then why going around with me?,do you need more explanations?
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour,` I don't need further explanation, I already know about these lineages. What I would like is proof from you. Since you are suggesting that a lineage in African Afrasan speakers is from a back migration from Asia, then you need proof from a genetics paper. I can say a lineage back migrated from Mars, but I would need evidence, that is all I would like.
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
What evident?
I gave you more evident than you ever asked for.
The stunned evident is more E1b1b lineages found outside of Africa,all the way to Greece and further to Western Europe.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour, You haven't shown me a genetics paper which states that the E-M35 in African Afrasan speakers was introduced by a back migration from Asia. Which genetics paper did you get this information from? If you can't provide a source for your claim, then I'll have to take your claim as unfounded.
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
Nevertheless,there weren't any papers that proves Back Migration,it was done by researchers,and I am a researcher,I was investigated Afrasian movement for years.
Unlike you,I don't accept anything I read,I have to do my own search.
So called Caucasian Phenotypes appeared only outside of Africa,and those who happen to have these genes in Africa are mostly Afro-Asiatic speakers,and most of them are Back migration.
E1b1b is the best example of the Back Migrations in Africa.
roidujour 1 year ago
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@roidujour, there is no evidence that E-M35 is from a back migration because it did not come from a back migration, that's my point.
"there weren't any papers that proves Back Migration" + "E1b1b is the best example of the Back Migrations in Africa" = Contradiction.
So you can't continue to say that it did because you are being misleading.
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
Yea,Berber are E-M81 which is also Back Migration marker.
Linguistically,Chadic languages are more related to Berber,Egyptian than they related to Cushitic.
Tell me,how can Afro-Asiatic being African origin,if you and I knew that R1b,H1,J1,J2,I markers are not African.
Can you tell who are descendant of "Back Migration from Asia to Africa",are they Bushmen or San or so called Bantu or Nubian?
E1b1b is the only marker found outside of Africa,and they been there more than 15kya
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour ,
nope, not all Berbers are E-M81, I suggest you provide an actual proof to support your claim. and also linguistically Chadic have nothing to do with Egyptians, since Egyptians speak Arabic. while Ancient Egyptians language Is mostly Cushitic Oromiffa.
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO
What claim?
Did you just said Egyptian are Arabs?
Look,I don't care about all of you,cause none of you know something about AA migrations.
We all knew that Africa welcomed lot of Back Migration from Euro-Asia to Egypt.
Please tell me who are the descendant of these Back Migration peoples?.
Who care about Egypt being Arabs or Oromifia?,the points are these Chadic speakers ancestors didn't came to Africa by Airplane,they walked,and their Blueprints still in Egypt,Libya,Sudan.
roidujour 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO
Hey stop segregating E1b1b sub-clades,it doesn't matter how many sub-clades E1b1b had,they are all the same,and shared the father. E1b1b1b (E-M81) E1b1b1c (E-M123) E1b1b1d (E-M281) E1b1b1e (E-V6) E1b1b1f (E-P72) E1b1b1g (E-M293).
I don't need any proof other than DNA,I do believe E1b1b was raised outside of Africa,I am 100% sure.
All these craps NexusJk,PhineasGage22 surrendered to truth,cause they can denied AA being Asian,but they cant denies these DNA being Asian.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour E1b1b is ISN'T Asian his Dad (E1b1) and lil Brother (E1b1a) are African. R*, J* could've been Asian, but E* noooooooooooooooooo fucking way lol
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PhineasGage22 1 year ago
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@roidujour, Where is the significant frequencies of E-M81 in the "Middle East"? I see what you are doing, you have to resort to claiming African markers as "back migratioins" without any proof. I can move the goal posts also, show me evidence that E-M78 lineages in African Afrasan speakers is also a result of a back migration into Africa.
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
Have you ever heard of "Back Migration theories"?
Do you believe that Asian came to Africa?
If so,then you need to believe this:
E1b1b was born in Africa close to 30,000 years ago,and shared the a common father with E1b1a..etc..,before moved to Asia 18kya,and then moved back to Africa 9kya,this is fact.
And if you consider "E" itself as African,then you are crazy,cause "E" was also born in Asia before came back to Africa.
When that happen,there were no Caucasian around 60kya.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour, You need to provide evidence that the E-M78 carried by African Afrasan speakers is from a back migration into Africa, show me a study which says this.
PhineasGage22 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
You said the earliest Afro-Asiatic speakers were hunters not agriculturalist ?
Can you tell me one Afro-Asiatic speaker known as hunter?.
We all looking to Ethiopia when talking about Afro-Asiatic,so please tell me what Ethiopian tribe known to be hunters?
Afro-Asiatic is Mid Eastern Origin,the reason why there are lot of diversities in Africa was because of different location of their migration in that continent.
Go study more about AA languages and their original home.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour Genetically Chadic speakers have really nothing do to with African A.A. speakers who are mostly E* (it means they are more related to other E* from West Africa). Ethiopian E1b1b beside (SO CALLED) West African E1b1a have more to do than Chadic R*, FACTS !!!! Et prouve moi par A+B que Tutankhamon était R* , je vais t'envoyer une vidéo qui démontre qu'il n'y à pas de preuve réel.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Aller Chier!
Pour causer,tu es le priemier,mais tout ce que tu dis n'ont pas de sens.
Tu es malade,vas te faire soigner.
You watched Tut 's R1b video,you knew the reality,you just can't understand that Egypt was built by Afro-Asiatic people.
I really hate both Afrocentrist and Eurocentrist,cause all of you are dumb.
Neither Afrocentro nor Eurocentro ever participated in building A.Egypt.
Ancient Egypt is clearly native Afro-Asiatic speakers works .
Stay away from A.Egypt.
roidujour 1 year ago
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NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Who were Euro-Asian invaders?,and what languages did they brought to Africa?
What Genetic markers did they brought to Africa?
Please tell me.
You believed Euro-Asian came to Africa,but denied their descendant ( R1b=Chadic,J1=Amhara,H1=Berber) to claim their ancestors..lol so silly .
What are their DNA markers,if you believed Euro-Asian came to Africa?
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour I think those markers were brought by Eurasian invaders. If no give me the exact date of back migration from A.A. : i think they were basically Africans and they had a linguistic/genetic migration from Asia. Black people (the ancestors of Chadic speakers were already there).
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
You are space waster ,go get something important to do.
You have peoples with clears evident,but you still finding they way to denied them.
If you don't believe in science,then why talking about science.?
How can someone will have Euro-Asian DNA marker,speakers languages similar to Asian and not being a descendant of Asian or Euro-Asian?
These Chadic are Back Migration from Asia to Africa less than 7000 years ago.
If you don't like it then get out here,and stop wasting my time.
roidujour 1 year ago
@NexusJk
You said: an Haplgroup is use to find out your ancestors migration. Color doesn't count.
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Then where these Chadic speakers came from,if you want to trace their R1b marker?
Please tell me where these Chadic speakers came from,don't judge their appearances,use their Haplogroups DNA marker (R1b) not their skin color.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour New phenotypes was brought by eurasian invaders not from a come back from the dead of E1b1b ahahaha. Ne me parle pas du passé , cela remonte à plus de 3000 ans, ce qui compte c'est le présent, actuellement les Chadiens vous n'êtes pas prêt de redevenir blanc. LOL
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Tu es malade,persone ne parle pas de couleur,ont parlait d'origine des langue ,genetique,peux m'importe de lla couleur de peaux.
roidujour 1 year ago
@PhineasGage22
Omotic got it sub-family membership through Cushitic branch not through proto-Afrasian,do you understand what that mean?
It mean that Omotic was joined languages ( Cushitic + Nilo-Saharan ),due to long interaction between two body systems (Nilo-saharan + Cushitic),these former Nilo-Saharan speakers merged almost unrecognizable in to Cushitic.
You need to read more,and more,and pay attention more,cause wikipedia cannot help you understand these.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour Bantu speakers from CENTRAL AFRICA DO share the L3 subgroups such as L3e, L3e1, L3f3 . L3e, L3f1b1 are found amongst African-Americans, Afro-Brazilians and other Carribeans i'm a member of Dna-Forums . com and i see many African-Americans sharing this haplogroup.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@roidujour L2* is a common haplogroup considerd Bantu by Genographic but it is really common amongst Afro-Asiatic : hard to believe ? BUT IT'S TRUE ! Read the article of Wikipedia about L2* ...they have quotes so do not come with shit like everybody use it and blablabla .
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk ,
Is E-M78 Found In Southern Africa? NO.
I think you were talking about E1b1b1g (E-M293) which a sub-clade of (E-M35) NOT (E-M78) .
actually Ancient Sumerian were (M78) that's why M78 and also M35 Is a common haplogroup In west Asia, specially In Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Balkan and Europe.
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO E1b1b1g is the youngest. subclades of E* are only found in SOUTHern Europe and Asia because those two are near the African continent ! Elsewhere You'LL find NO E*. Et pourquoi tu ramène encore les y-chrom sur le tapis ??? ! Je te dis que ce n'est guère représentatif vu que seul les mâles en sont porteurs !!!!!!!! ALL E* haplogroup is of AFRICAN origin.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk
Europe, Asia? what are you talking about? E1b1b1g (E-M293) This sub-clade of E-M35 was announced in Henn et al. (2008), which associated it with the spread of pastoralism from Eastern Africa into Southern Africa. So far high levels have been found in specific ethnic groups in Tanzania and Southern Africa. Highest were the Datog (43%), Khwe (Kxoe) (31%), Burunge (28%), and Sandawe (24%). Henn et al. (2008) in their study also found two Bantu-speaking Kenyan males with the M293 mutation.
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
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@THEBADASSOROMO Answer to my questions please.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO A.Sumerians were J* i think, and do you have the results ? I bet no. And people from that era are mostly J*, like Arabic people they are mostly J* not E*.
NexusJk 1 year ago
@NexusJk ,
I think you're not paying attention to history or to genetics , the Sumerian were not Semites, that's Is well known fact, so how can they be (J) ? nonsense arab's origin Is Yemen not modern day Iraq. oh people of that era were mostly Cushites since Cushites colonized most of west Asia up to some part of Southern Asia.
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO Sumerians weren't Semitics cause their language wasn't semitic their language has NO CLASSIFICATION Semitic are languages : NOT ETHNIC.
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THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO J* was their long before semitic languages, FACTS !!!
NexusJk 1 year ago 2
@THEBADASSOROMO Just like E1b1a was there BEFORE bantu languages even exist!!!!
NexusJk 1 year ago 2
@NexusJk
Proving you that All Afro-Asiatic speakers are Asian who moved to Africa no longer than 10,000 year ago.
Goat,Limb,Cow are not African Animals,so who brought them to Africa?
Afro-Asiatic speakers did,you can only find these Animal around Afro-Asiatic speakers.
Beside Fulani and Tutsi,there are no other non A.A,with such Animal in Africa.
I told you,and I will keep teaching you about AA origin.They are not indigenous Africans,but a recent movemt from Asia to Africa,less than 10,000 yo.
roidujour 1 year ago
@roidujour Dude, don't forget that CHAD is IN MIDDLE AFRICA and you SURE DO HAVE SO CALLED BANTU+WEST AFRICAN roots in your blood !!!!!! YES THAT'S A FACT !!!!!!!!!
NexusJk 1 year ago
@roidujour Tu ne sais jamais t'exprimer sans t'empêcher de t'attaquer à ma personne. Je ne te connais même pas et toi non plus d'ailleurs donc ne t'avise plus de critiquer. Tu ne connais pas grand chose alors ta superiorité linguistique tu te la garde. D'ailleurs les personnes comme toi qui croient que leur ancêtres ont apporté la civilisation; les personnes de langues Chadic n'ont pas d'écriture (si pour toi la civilisation se limite à la découverte de l'écriture)
NexusJk 1 year ago