Валова - Васильев в техническом плане превосходили Гордееву и Гринькову. Они сочетали в себе силу, мощь, атлетизм и одновременно элегантность. Их все программы технически сложнее программ Гордеевой и Гринькова - поддержки, прыжки, подкрутки. Таких никто не делал.
Васильев конечно талантливый фигурист и тренер, но такой кобель. Ну ладно Тотьмянина, она действительно классная фигуристка и сильная женщина, мне такие нравятся, но что он в этой сучке Мухортовой нашел?
Ужасные костюмы и компановка музыки. Технически они откатали чище Г&Г, но ПП последних была намного интереснее, а об артистичности и говорить нечего! Ни одна пара в мире не превзошла в этом плане Г&Г!
Moskvina really struggled with the "branding" of this couple after G&G began to dominate...and I am glad this style, though not my personal favorite for them, worked! One of the best moments in the history of fig skating, in my opinion.
The new system stinks. Skaters can't afford to have any artistry/interconnecting moves because they're too busy/worried @ wracking up points. G&G were all too often the winners in a ' popularity contest." This pair as well as M&D had it all over them. It's easy to fling a 80 pound female around. V&V and M&D were better matched.
I agree about the new system ruining the artistic side of figure skating but I disagree with G&G often being winners of a popularity contest (I'm not saying it didn't happen) but I think most of their wins were deserved.
G&Gs title at the 1990 worlds was definitely unfair. M&D skated them under the table.
Oh that title in 1990 was a joke wasn't it? Their performance looked like a run-through in practice where one is to keep going in spite of errors and mistakes. I was as stunned as anybody when M&D received the bronze. Brasseur/Eisler definitely benefitted from the " home-ice," advantage.A silver was a gift in the sense that they skated much slower than the Russians.Made no mistakes but everything seemed to be telegraphed ahead of time.Also very deliberate in their moves.A great team though.
@libralady1010 I agree, Worlds 90 was a joke. M&D should have won Gold, The Canadians 2nd and Selezneva/Makarov 3rd even though I did not like their routine much and the music was awful.
@libralady1010 I would have had Miskutienok & Dmitriev 1st at the 1990 Worlds, Selezneva & Makarov 2nd (or maybe even 1st), Gordeeva & Grinkov 3rd (4th in the long program), Brasseur & Eisler 4th (3rd in the long program but losing bronze due to short program placings). The judging was awful. The old Selezneva & Makarov and newcoming Miskutienok & Dmitriev were pushed aside to prop up the faltering legends and the hometown kids.
@russianskatingfan I couldn't agree more.G&G were overrated in my book& while I like Lloyd&Isabelle,they skated SO SLOW,it almost seemed like a 7:00 minute LP.It's a shame M&D didn't place higher@1990 Worlds.' G&G had the'88 Olympic title propping them up.Brassuer& Eisler had the home ice advantage.Had great lifts but they were so slow in their stroking-esp.their back stroking.G&G-my OMG! horror show @ 90's.Selezneva&Makarov;screwed royally as M&D were.Bronze medal!...pfttt!
Brilliant. Yes, most of their technical difficulty was in the 1st 1/2 of the programme but the power and drive in this routine were outstanding. Final Countdown is a fabulous piece of music and they really deserved this win. Great way to finish their amateur careers. They don't have performances like this anymore with the silly new marking system. Bring back the old 6.0 !
Валова - Васильев в техническом плане превосходили Гордееву и Гринькову. Они сочетали в себе силу, мощь, атлетизм и одновременно элегантность. Их все программы технически сложнее программ Гордеевой и Гринькова - поддержки, прыжки, подкрутки. Таких никто не делал.
ghtgjlfdfntkm1 3 months ago
What is interesting, is that, with very few tweaks, this program would win in this season!
muscleboi4use 11 months ago
Мои любимые фигуристы. В их катании сочетается мощь, грация и красота. Я люблю все их программы начиная с ЧМ-83.
gjuhfybxybr 1 year ago
Васильев конечно талантливый фигурист и тренер, но такой кобель. Ну ладно Тотьмянина, она действительно классная фигуристка и сильная женщина, мне такие нравятся, но что он в этой сучке Мухортовой нашел?
borisgolovin 1 year ago
Ужасные костюмы и компановка музыки. Технически они откатали чище Г&Г, но ПП последних была намного интереснее, а об артистичности и говорить нечего! Ни одна пара в мире не превзошла в этом плане Г&Г!
alishavalath 1 year ago
@alishavalath
Почему ужасные. Техника исполнения всех программ у них всегда была намного выше, чем у Гордеевой и Гринькова. Это говорят специалисты.
ghtgjlfdfntkm1 3 months ago
Moskvina really struggled with the "branding" of this couple after G&G began to dominate...and I am glad this style, though not my personal favorite for them, worked! One of the best moments in the history of fig skating, in my opinion.
nondescriptnyc 1 year ago 5
The new system stinks. Skaters can't afford to have any artistry/interconnecting moves because they're too busy/worried @ wracking up points. G&G were all too often the winners in a ' popularity contest." This pair as well as M&D had it all over them. It's easy to fling a 80 pound female around. V&V and M&D were better matched.
libralady1010 2 years ago 3
I agree about the new system ruining the artistic side of figure skating but I disagree with G&G often being winners of a popularity contest (I'm not saying it didn't happen) but I think most of their wins were deserved.
G&Gs title at the 1990 worlds was definitely unfair. M&D skated them under the table.
MelleAndKev 2 years ago 5
Oh that title in 1990 was a joke wasn't it? Their performance looked like a run-through in practice where one is to keep going in spite of errors and mistakes. I was as stunned as anybody when M&D received the bronze. Brasseur/Eisler definitely benefitted from the " home-ice," advantage.A silver was a gift in the sense that they skated much slower than the Russians.Made no mistakes but everything seemed to be telegraphed ahead of time.Also very deliberate in their moves.A great team though.
libralady1010 2 years ago 3
@libralady1010 I agree, Worlds 90 was a joke. M&D should have won Gold, The Canadians 2nd and Selezneva/Makarov 3rd even though I did not like their routine much and the music was awful.
premierrules 1 year ago
@libralady1010 I would have had Miskutienok & Dmitriev 1st at the 1990 Worlds, Selezneva & Makarov 2nd (or maybe even 1st), Gordeeva & Grinkov 3rd (4th in the long program), Brasseur & Eisler 4th (3rd in the long program but losing bronze due to short program placings). The judging was awful. The old Selezneva & Makarov and newcoming Miskutienok & Dmitriev were pushed aside to prop up the faltering legends and the hometown kids.
russianskatingfan 2 months ago 2
@russianskatingfan I couldn't agree more.G&G were overrated in my book& while I like Lloyd&Isabelle,they skated SO SLOW,it almost seemed like a 7:00 minute LP.It's a shame M&D didn't place higher@1990 Worlds.' G&G had the'88 Olympic title propping them up.Brassuer& Eisler had the home ice advantage.Had great lifts but they were so slow in their stroking-esp.their back stroking.G&G-my OMG! horror show @ 90's.Selezneva&Makarov;screwed royally as M&D were.Bronze medal!...pfttt!
libralady1010 2 months ago
The new system is not perfect, but it's better than the old 6.0 placement BS. It too often WAS a popularity contest!
nepadude 2 years ago
elena valova is my skating coach!
its soo weird to see her in these videos cause i cannot picture her doing any of that now!
wow i love elena. haha
mcklinds 3 years ago 4
she's my coach too!
chicagochick27 2 years ago
really? sweeeet. wait, do you skate down at rmu island sports center?
mcklinds 2 years ago
Brilliant. Yes, most of their technical difficulty was in the 1st 1/2 of the programme but the power and drive in this routine were outstanding. Final Countdown is a fabulous piece of music and they really deserved this win. Great way to finish their amateur careers. They don't have performances like this anymore with the silly new marking system. Bring back the old 6.0 !
premierrules 3 years ago 11
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Eww noo not the old system. It was just a popularity contest.
xoxoskate 2 years ago
they are brilliant!!!!! wow :-O
schwarzeprinzessin 3 years ago 4
What a way to end their career. Bravo! The ironic thing is this is probably the only skater
(s) in history to both lose the Worlds after winning an Olympic gold (84) and win the Worlds after losing the Olympic gold (88).
ants2876 3 years ago 13
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that was so front-loaded
sekretaznman81 3 years ago
they did the axel entry twist lift.
MissFit29 3 years ago 4
Interesting... no split triple twist?
yodabeesh 3 years ago