IJN Battleship HARUNA wreck at Kure

[kskk9368]

Japs got what they deserved, it's too bad U. S. didn,t kill a few more. Japs still cry today about a- bomb. Jap Army slaughtered millions. Japs still are RACISTS today. BONZAI to all Japs.

[LeGiiTuhMate]

If they were smart they should have raised every Battleship, (Japanese) That sank like that in Shallow water, Raise it, repair it, and make it into a Marite-Time Mueseam. ( I know I didn't spell acouple words right, But you people get my point right? )

[1138thz]

@Darthvader710

Sould I be concerned with the opinion of an asshole with downs syndrome like you Douchevader? I think not.

[1138thz]

@Darthvader710

Pull your head out of your ass punk! 

[NezbittheGreyKitten]

@Darthvader710 bahahah you dumb fuck! the Wehrmacht did not have anything to do with death camps..

[Soundwave3591]

@1138thz even today, if a westerner goes to japan, they can expect to be gawked at like some mutant. i went to Tokyo a few months before the Quake, and an old couple actually took a Picture of me after staring at me for like 10 minutes! I was like "i CAN'T be the first white guy you've ever seen"

the Japanese are Racist even today.

[1138thz]

@Soundwave3591

I've had similar experiences when I was stationed in Japan (USMC). I can't say how many times I entered a restaurant and been informed that "this restaurant for Japanese people on-re." My procedure is to cough and spit on the the floor and then apologies (fuck em). It would have served those sawed off racist bastards right if we hadn't nuked them maintained the blockade and the fire bombing and let the Russians annihilate all 3 million of the Japs on Hokkaido Island.

[scottduncan44]

The Haruna was one of the Kongo battlecruiser s which were what I consider the most succesful battlecruisers built.. They had a very eventful war.

[MrFreedomrequired]

wow way too stupid for a BB...of course it was sunk

[GustaviusDeeva]

@TectonicPower why dont you go to a deathcamp to see innocent people dying sisne you seem to like death of innocent so much.

[FRAGIORGIO1]

For everybody's information, Fleet Admiral Chester Nimitz (from Texas) saved the IJNS Mikasa, Admiral Togo's flagship at Tsushima (1905) from ruin in memory of the great naval traditions of Japan.

[FRAGIORGIO1]

@TectonicPower That's a disgusting attitude!  You ought to be ashamed of yourself for being so inhumane.

[pramboy09]

@chrysanthos66 what the fuck are you talkng about???? for starters i'm from new zealand, but you think after years of fighting the japanese the americans would give a fuck about an old japanese battleship??, yeah after 66 years after the war ended we all would love some piece of history look at but in 1945 using her as a target made sense.

[TectonicPower]

@dividednation44 Long live Cesium-134/147 and Iodine-131. Another earthquake-tsunami might help you to appreciate reality. Enjoy your mutated raw fish with isotope enhanced wasabi.

[dividednation44]

@TectonicPower i am not japanese but...

long live the current flood in amerika

fuck you

[FRAGIORGIO1]

@dividednation44 Rotten attitude. I don't wish ill to any nation and its people.

[FRAGIORGIO1]

@TectonicPower  You have a rotten attitude too, just because of one or a few dumbbells you don't have to go toxic. Japanese people are friendly people for the most part. Every country has some losers.

[lambhdeargh]

@TectonicPower So glad you see the death of innocent children, women, men, and the odd pow to your liking. Maybe you should have joined the Nazi party too!

[Soundwave3591]

@lambhdeargh if the A-bombs had not been dropped, the US would have invaded japan, resulting in the death of millions more. and more people died in the firebombings than in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. the A-bombs were horrible, yes, particularly the afteraffects. but lets not forget, the Japanese murdered millions of innocent Chinese civilians, and treated Allied POW's worse than the Nazis's treated jews. people tend to forget that.

[lambhdeargh]

@Soundwave3591 OK, since Japan was attempting to sue for peace, prior to the dropping of the bomb, it was unnessesary to drop the bomb! Even according to Henry Stimson it was unnessary to drop that weapon, but military hounds bayed for the blood!

[Soundwave3591]

@lambhdeargh Japan WASN'T attempting to sue for peace. they even wanted to keep going after the bombs fell! only the intervention of the Emperor prevented further slaughter, and even then, the military tried to stop his surrender Message. the Japanese were the bloodthirsty ones. thier sense of honor and military pride would not allow them any less than total destruction of the enemy, even if it meant the annihalation of Japan.

[lambhdeargh]

@Soundwave3591 I think you might want to read Henry Stimson's war diarys, Japan was suing for peace and had approached Russia to broker a peace deal on 22nd of june 1945, Stimson recorded it in his diary on 16th july. I would also suggest you read Gar Alperovitz book "the decision to use the atomic bomb". As for the military, it is now widely accepted by most historians, that it was only a small clique who wished to continue to fight on, do your research.

[1138thz]

@lambhdeargh

I believe that it is you that should do some research sport. The Japanese high command wanted 'terms'. To wit: no occupation, no war crimes trials hence their so called 'surrender' proposal amounted to an armistice where the Japanese govt would remain intact and also be allowed to keep the conquered territories still under their control. Those terms were unacceptable to the USA and the Allies so they got nuked to blast them out of their intransigent mind set. Do your research.

[lambhdeargh]

@1138thz Nope, you are wrong again, Japan wanted the retention of their Emperor, the rest was wishful thinking on their behalf and were willing to bargin to try to get a better deal, but the Emperor was key. I know it's distasteful to find out that your goverment killed people not to save lives, but just to prove a point to the USSR. I could supply you with many facts and figures, but, I get the feeling you are one of these people unintrested in a viewpoint opposed to your ingrained bias.

[1138thz]

@lambhdeargh

Nuking Japan was the lowest cost option in lives and money for the USA and that it may have reigned in Uncle Joe for a short time is just fine with me. And I never said that we intended to save Japanese lives only that nuking them had that unfortunate effect. Distasteful? You are mistaken, I am actually quite pleased with the results of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..It couldn't have happened to a more deserving group of murdering bastards. I just wish we would have Nuked Kyoto as well.

[lambhdeargh]

@1138thz You are quite the idiot then, it is accepted knowledge that Japan was beaten without the need for an invasion nor the atomic bomb, the idea that millions would die is a fallacy. Just because you are a racist, dosen't mean we have to accept your warped view of history, I get my knowledge from books, I would suggest you do the same! Mass murder is unnacceptable, no matter who commits the crime and the killing of civillians is murder. You fool.

[1138thz]

@lambhdeargh

Military hounds? Like Oppenheimer, Lawrence, Teller and the majority of the top scientists in the Manhattan project? In fact the military was split on the issue of nuking cities. Gen LeMay & Adm Leahy thought constant fire bombing in conjunction with the tight naval blockade was the right course and opposed the use of 'gadgets' as being 'dishonorable'. However, their plan would have killed 5 million Japanese via starvation, fire and high explosive death. Do your research!

[lambhdeargh]

@1138thz Actually Gen LeMay thought that the war would be over by Sept or Oct as there would be nothing left to bomb, Adm Leahy thought a blockade would cause Japans capitulation around Sept 45. Considering conventional bombing continued up until Japans surrender, your estimate of 5 million futher casualties is wildly innaccurate. I have done my research, I suggest you do too.

[uio890138]

This single ship is very symbalic of the entire Japanese navy at the end of WW2.

[dividednation44]

@uio890138 except for the yamato. one and only of the kind in the entire IJN

[uio890138]

@dividednation44 I mean symbolic in the sense that it was once a modern and awesome naval force feared by the entire free world, but now was battered, listing, and abandoned. The footage of this single ship speaks about the whole IJN at the end of WW2.

[dividednation44]

@uio890138 after bieng heavily outnumbered. numbers mean all.

indeed. it is tragic that it is now dead in the waters with no one in..... it was an awesom battleship. one of my absloute favourites of WW2

[Andrei613]

@dividednation44; Yamato had a sister ship, completed to the same design some months after her, the Musashi. So, in that sense, Yamato was not 'one and only of a kind' in the IJN. Plus, a third sister ship\s hull was used to build a carrier, the Shinano. So, that\s three...

[dividednation44]

@Andrei613 i meant yamato class, the 3rd one was yes, turned to be an aircraft carrier (the largest aircraft carrier in thee world) but it was sunk without even sailing out. fuck the US airforce. lol

[FRAGIORGIO1]

@dividednation44 The Shinano was going to be a sister ship of Yamato and Musashi, but was converted into an aircraft carrier, but was sunk easily because they protection systems didn't work.

[jukio02]

you guys are all fuckn racist, get over it, it was 70 fukn years ago. alot of you werent even born back then. today, japan is one of the nicest countries in the world, and their are very good allies with america. pathetic humans

[jukio02]

@jukio02 another thing, it was war. war is not pretty. plus you guys are one to talk, bombing nagasaki and hiroshima, killing thousands of innocent civilians. hyprocrites

[formeliandialogue]

@jukio02 Actually you're right...my comment was wrong and I admit it. The people who fund these wars are the International bankers and it's them I should be angry with not the Japanese people. Well said for fighting your corner.

[vonFisch]

RIP IJN

[PrepSurvivor]

At one point my uncle was stationed in Pearl Harbor and he witnessed a japanese tourist ask an old american (presumably a veteran) where the USS arizona memorial was located. The veteran quickly responded with RIGHT WHERE YOU FUCKING LEFT IT.

[bakathirteen]

Owned. XD

[jukio02]

@PrepSurvivor man, u guys are fukn racist, i wish i can meet you people, so i can put you in your place

[PrepSurvivor]

@jukio02

lol

Calm down there drama queen.

Although I'm sure you would "put me in my place" lol

You should observe the fact that the comment was a second hand story and not an outpouring of personal beliefs. Get over yourself.

[formeliandialogue]

Japs!!! My mum's uncle nearly died in a Jap prisoner of War camp and wished that he'd have been captured by the Nazi's instead. The Japs were the cruellest bastards ever and no Japanese relics should be saved at all. I'm sick of the sight of Jap produce and Jap people. Good British patriots were tortured to death by the Japs and I'm not going to let you slanty-eyed bastards forget it!

[jukio02]

@formeliandialogue racist

[tpsossff]

Good point. I wonder if deeper politics came into play here. The US electorate were dead against their country getting involved in a foreign war. Certainly if it hadn't all foreign assetts would have been lost to Japan, the Nazis and the communists.

I am not sure that the President and his inner circle were caught sitting on their hands.

[Greenhornet270]

fantastic post!!!

[jamessavik]

I saw a plate from the Haruna's china service on sale on Ebay.

[SuperHaloStarwarsFan]

lol if I'm not mistaken Haruna was a Kongo-class Battlecruiser, not a BB.

Anyway, cool vid. Nice footage :D

[Xigano1]

@SuperHaloStarwarsFan

She was upgradet and re-classified as battleship in 1928

[YappyRaccoon]

The pagoda tower is cool.

[RedRocker9957]

This is why you just don't mess with the United States. Period.

[tpsossff]

@RedRocker9957 Most Americans are obese and laugh at the millions kept hungry by US foreign policy.. Is that not why the Japs bombed their shackles off at Pearl???

Oh yes, big brave US of fucking A wasn't satified with beating them, they used two of their cities to test the MK2 and MK3 designs of nuclear bomb. Yeah don't mess with America ..... they are all nutters.

[miamimaverick1950]

@tpsossff STUDY HISTORY! the Japs of today are not the Japs of WW2 nor sadly are Americans. The Japs of WW2 were brave but very cruel. REad about the Batan death march or all the rape and murder in China on military orders or abuse and execution of POWs. They Attacked because they wanted China and Indonesian Oil & US objected. Overall they were worse than the Germans.

[tpsossff]

@miamimaverick1950

The Japanese people were the victims of a medeival regime that dehumanised their soldiers from an early age. Agree entirely about their cruelty to pows and civilians but political expediency let most of the guilty get away with it. Hiroshito should have been hung. Instead they were allowed to keep their bloody honour and their living god as McAuthur turned the surrrender into some quasi religeous ceremony. Was he seeking absolution for the US after the nuclear bombing?

[ugslamma]

@tpsossff Nutters I like that made me laugh never heard that one before,nutter here and not obese lololololol

[ugslamma]

@tpsossff  nutters...can't stop laughing

[tpsossff]

@ugslamma

Its English slang ..... meaning someone who is mad silly or strange. .. must look up the origin sometime. Nut is also a slang reference to the skull.

I apologise for my silly rant there, especially as I used bad language. If fact I have plenty of respect for Americans, those I have met have been the most hospitable people you could wish to meet. But politics sucks the world over what ever the flag.

[ugslamma]

@tpsossff Apology accepted my friend no hard feelings though it did make me laugh.Your correct about polotics nothing we can do but vote for who we believe in.

And there are a lot of heavy weights here I must admit though i'm not one.Have a nice day.

[ostrich67]

@tpsossff Read up on the history of imperial Japan from the Meiji Restoration onwards and you'll discover that they were emulating YOUR British Empire.

[tpsossff]

@ostrich67

Indeed they were and the Brit Empire was nothing to be proud of. But America must also ask why Pearl happened and why Japan attacked it.

[ostrich67]

@tpsossff Sounds like you're being fed some revisionist history. The fact is that Japan wanted to control all of Asia and be one of the greatest colonial powers in history. In order to do that they had to get rid of all the other colonial powers there including Britain, France, and Holland. The only nation that could possibly stop them was the US, which tried by sanctions and embargoes. Should they have done nothing and allow millions to die or live as near slaves?

[ostrich67]

@ostrich67 FDR's view on the war: ``I've tried to make it clear ... that while we're [Britain's] allies and in it to victory by their side, they must never get the idea that we're in it just to help them hang on to their archaic, medieval empire ideas ... I hope they realize they're not senior partner; that we are not going to sit by and watch their system stultify the growth of every country in Asia and half the countries in Europe to boot.''

[netherledy]

@ostrich67 I wonder if he would say the same now, as the balance of power moves inexorably to undemocratic China and away from the USA, fuelled by the greed and corruption of Wall Street?

[tpsossff]

@ostrich67

Given the cruelty they conducted their occupations the answer must be no. But I never understood why, to use the words of their own admiral, they awoke the sleeping bear filled with a terrible resolve. (Apologies if that is a misquote, I'll look it up.)

[pramboy09]

@tpsossff considering all the intel the americans had and intel given by the british prior to the japanese attack it should have never happened the way it did.

[jerkfacejim]

How cool is that???

[tpsossff]

Did it rot where is sank or was it recovered for scrap???

[RedRocker9957]

@tpsossff scrap.

[Brasstacks11]

Where is it located at?

[squadman33]

Looks top heavy

[pramboy09]

@squadman33 you should have seem the kirshima!

[98RamMagnum]

@pramboy09 Saying that implies they were different, there was nothing different about their superstructure being they were of the same class.

[pramboy09]

@98RamMagnum The nagato was a different class, her sister was mustu. Kirishima was a kongo class battleship.

[98RamMagnum]

@pramboy09 I know that, you said "@squadman33 you should have seen the kirishima!" after he said "looks top heavy", this video is showing the Haruna, which is one of the three sisters of the Kirishima.

[pramboy09]

@98RamMagnum Your right i did say that, don't know why i did, a few beers perhaps?

[Pacfanweb]

It's not still there, they raised it and scrapped it after the war.

[navnig]

did they not refloat her and sink here during the nuke tests at bikini?

[pramboy09]

@navnig no that was nagato

[dustystix76]

that would have been awesome to see if it was still there when i visited Kure about 8 years ago

[ijnfleetadmiral]

She definitely wouldn't look like this...I've seen a pic of KIKUZUKI - a destroyer sunk off Tulagi three years before HARUNA's loss - taken in 1993...most of her decks have collapsed and there is barely anything above the surface now..

[Udonis1989]

well it looks lika a really big diving submarine...

[weldon0m]

domo ari garto, mussi musta, ko ne chi wa

[TheZuikaku]

So sad. I bet there are ghosts in there.

[98RamMagnum]

Well, it's not there anymore, it was raised and broken apart for scrap, just like the majority of other ships sunk in shallow waters.

[SuperSchpalek]

..as german Tirpitz in Tromsö for example... Man, if some of those monsters would stay in their place!

[killersaad]

at Håkøya outside Tromsø.

[SuperSchpalek]

:-) Thanks! That's it! I have never been to Norway, I just know it from the books... Did they left something from the ship, or was it scrapped to the last screw?

[killersaad]

@SuperSchpalek Oslo bought some armor plates to cover the holes they digged in the streets

[inar64]

@SuperSchpalek i know there is a armor plate somewhere in germany(by the pier the Tirpitz was built at i think) and a 15"barrel also survives(not used on tirpitz) and a few main battery shells if i remember correctly. i may be wrong tho. and the armor plate might be bismarcks, but im quite sure it was tirpitz'

[Latvietis96]

Amazing

Such a huge ship left 4 dead...

[SFVAfilms]

That is some AWSOME footage! Thanks for posting that!!

[warp9p65]

The battleships Ise, Hyuga, and Haruna had all been bombed and had settled to the bottom on their keels with moderate to heavy damage. Only the battleship Nagato remained afloat and able to steam. All other Japanese battleships had been sunk in battle or, in the case of the Mutsu, by an internal explosion while at anchor in, I believe in 1943.

[alex568plank]

I believe that after the war, the Nagato was used as a target ship in one of the many A-bomb tests at Bikinni Atole. It is at the bottom of the lagoon and still 'hot'.

[jimmywrangles]

Almost right.

Recently divers have been allowed to dive the wreck as the radiation levels have now dropped sufficiently.

It's not easy to get permission from the US navy though because Bikini atoll is still an American base.

[ToonandBBfan]

Nice ship

[winchuni22]

Is the wreck still there?

[tpuhinesor]

Having seen, for the first time, the 3 IJN BB's at Kure, One can come to the conclusion it is a very shallow draft for these big ships. No one keeled over. I don't see that any of the Kure BB's were capable of going anywhere except the bone yard.

[Airbusa319thehornet]

Let's see... The Nagato was obviously still alive, I'm almost positive Ise survived, Haruna, however, I've only heard rumors but there's your proof! CHarbaugh55 has a good point. My favorite Jap ship, Yamashiro, even though she's gone at least she died with pride and aa a warrior. Nagato had a sad sad ending.

[tpuhinesor]

I've always been under the impression that the IJN NAGATO was the sole remaining IJN BB at the end of the war and she was towed to Bikini for testing in an A-bomb drop.

[bv141a]

I think Ise survived to reparate soldiers back to Nippon,then scrapped

[iowa61]

No. She steamed under her own power with a US crew. It was not a pleasant voyage...

[heymisterderp]

I wish some of the Japanese BBs were allowed to survive to be restored as museum ships.

[pramboy09]

@heymisterderp hard to do that considering all were sunk before the war ended exept this one and one used as a target at bikini

[DULDEN85]

@heymisterderp they were a sight..... shame we never built a Montana class

[kjetilott]

@heymisterderp like yamato

[evbot456]

@heymisterderp yea especially the Yamato if they could get it to the surface again...

[LeGiiTuhMate]

@heymisterderp I know :\ The Nagato could have been 1, It survived World War 2, But it sunk when it tried the BAKER test, ( Underwater Atomic Bomb )

[CHarbaugh55]

That's too bad, the Kongo Class Battleships were great ships (the first BBs to do 30+ knots). The Haruna deserved to die a better death than that, at least the other 3 ships of the class died a warrior's death, not rotting away with no fuel and being scrapped.

[77p09]

First comment :)