Hydrogen Powered Small Engine

[johnnytwox]

Delay your timing too top dead center



[davedoggy]

sounds like you popped the head gasket or a valve there at the end of the video next time, use a briggs....

[1627Jim]

I address this to ZagdaGreat who after his 40 years still has a limited vocabulary,

a foul one. If you want to be constructive then clean up your language. Your intelligents is showing.

[charlestrubl]

you are cute!

[hillybilly99999]

Dude you need to control the total air consumption as well as fuel to air ratio to be able to change engine speed or "throttle up " something like the butterfly valve in the throat of the original carb, notice even fuel injected engines have air control valves

or a throttle body. ignition curve is largely irrelevant optimizing it would optimize power output but control the air and you'll control the speed, some chainsaw coils have a built in advance curve. pretty cool. Good luck.

[TonberryCactaur]

Very cool video, though you're way passive aggressive with your comment replies. Just ignore people who are being asses.

[MicroFarad2]

Pardon my ignorance, but is this a four stroke or two stroke engine? I would like a reply soon, if possible, because I am doing a report on hydrogen as a fuel.

[Outkaststormrage]

not that it matters.. but I believe that engine is from a snowblower or some sort of a coldweather application due to the lack of a air filter.

[nickmannable]

This was really cool! I always thought you had to have a special engine in order to use hydrogen as a fuel. Very cool! Thanks for sharing!

[thered702]

So, how do you attach the hho generator? I am making mine now, I have a 5hp techumseh that I am using for a water powered gokart or minibike. But not familiar with how to set up the throttle. Should I just add the hho generator to the engine or should I forget about gas alltogether?

[zell21955]

I did this just with my v6 mustang.

[bisken123]

I think i comes of a snowblower

[Fleshcucumber1]

your engine quit because it ran out of gasoline...the bottle was just for aesthetics...LOL

[douro20]

Pure hydrogen isn't a very good motor fuel- it takes more hydrogen to make the same amount of power than with any other fuel. However, wood gas (hydrogen, carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide) has an energy density quite similar to natural gas and can be made quite easily- the technology was invented in Germany as a way to power their vehicles during fuel shortages.

[HHO2011]

Hi im new on youtube, just wanted to make a channel for posting hydrogen videos and stuff. Btw, check my channel i put some cool hydrogen links up (including running a car on water)

[FlickTricksOffical]

these engines will blow a rod like nothing

[powd3rdayz]

Wow, I can't believe the comments on here. People really have a hard on for themselves. Anyways.... Great video, I am always inspired by hydrogen projects like this. Hopefully some day you could make the hydrogen gas on demand, using electrolysis. If I could recommend anything It would be a back draft prevention system of some type. All in all, great work sir.

[SmallWorldTreks]

Great video! A nice simple description of how you made it work. Best on youtube!

[SmallWorldTreks]

Great video! A nice simple description of how you made it work. Best on youtube!

[AlexandruVatamanu]

like your rig. simple. hydrogen gets in, air ventures through carburetor intake; mixes on the way in; plug sparks, all works. they do say modify the spark timing, coldn't tell which way though; hydrogen flashes really fast, intake valve should be closed by then; would be cool to see more

[AlexandruVatamanu]

like your rig. simple. hydrogen gets in, air ventures through carburetor intake; mixes on the way in; plug sparks, all works. they do say modify the spark timing, coldn't tell which way though; hydrogen flashes really fast, intake valve should be closed by then; would be cool to see more

[paladain55]

whoa. know that is dangerous. i suggest you use a flash back arrestor to keep it from blowing up that canister and sending shrapnel everywhere... have fun and be safe.

[hempster1956]

Perhaps filter the hydrogen through gasoline and use the resulting gases as fuel? Or if this would cause polluted water (unhealthy or undrinkable) as an exhaust forget I even mentioned it

[hempster1956]

Perhaps filter the hydrogen through gasoline and use the resulting gases as fuel?

[hempster1956]

Perhaps filter hydrogen through gasoline and use the resulting gas for fuel

[hempster1956]

perhaps arreate gasoline with hydrogen and use that gas for a fuel. 

[dzgfdg]

hydrogen is not the way

[739199]

@dzgfdg Why is that? when It burns it turns into water? how is that bad?

[dzgfdg]

@739199 well if you can get hydrogen from other ways that are more efficient then electrolysis, then i say go for it. But as for now, electrolysis only wastes electricity because you are converting energy into another form. When you convert energy, you will ALWAYS lose some amount of energy. If you want to go "green" then get an electric scooter or car or something, but not hydrogen. Oh, and you can never compress hydrogen and store them, so batteries are somewhat more reliable.

[739199]

@dzgfdg Well true, but would you like refueling your car like this ( Ohh I add copper sulfate in this tank and I add iron oxide in this one. Wait for it to mix and hopefully be able to start. This way once perfected it would be easy as adding water because once hydrogen burns and mixes with oxygen, it produces dihydrogen oxide (water) and you can reuse its remains in a way. If we could perfect it burning and collecting water then into hydrogen, we're set!

[dzgfdg]

@739199 agreed

[Cyborg1170]

Its Robin Williams



[icefisherman]

I really enjoyed this video! I don't know much about hydrogen powered engines, but i know a 3hp tecumseh like the back of my hand. I grew up racing microds (similar to 1/4 midgets) powered by these engines. If that has a solid-state ignition the easiest way to adjust the spark timing is to have some offset flywheel keys made. I can't remember what offset=degree of advance or retard but its only about .005" for a couple degrees. just thought i would throw that out there for you.

[duane403]

got no oil over heating duuur

[colin340]

i was wondering if there was a belt attached but u cleared that up for me lol

[tjinga2u1]

impressive,now you could use it to make electricity :P attach a few altinators your geting agood bit of electrcity and it looks pretty strong so i bet (probaly dont) if you had about 20altinators atttachem make a box you have a generator that works off the sun :P indirectly of coarse but clean.20 of them generate about 220 volts amps im not sure.

[PoliomanGamer]

How much did the cells cost?

[PoliomanGamer]

how do you convert it? I have this idea to develop a 25hp to run a volkswagen beetle

[ke4uyp]

A car that gets 20 miles per gallon only requires 6.4 ounces of gasoline per minute traveling 60 mph. Yet this tiny 6.4 ounces of gasoline produces 6010 BTU per. minute. It takes 524 liters per. minute of Uncompressed Hydrogen to equal 6.4 ounces of gasoline. I can guarantee you it cost more money to make 524 liters of Uncompressed Hydrogen than it does to make 6.4 ounces of gasoline.

[kooleokid100]

8:06 fail but good job ive never meade a engine but i have made a hydrogen torch its pretty sweet.

[gokartbuyer]

i give it 10 runs before the tecumshit throws a rod.

[DoNotuseEbid]

did you make your own HHO?

[adventurerules]

Nice work man! I have a 13 HP new motor that I want to do this with. For the purpose of doing research can you give the links for the two innovators who you mentioned please?

[knineu02]

Nobody is saying you can't run on hydrogen, it's been done for a long time. They are saying the a jelly jar filled with water and connected to your alternator cannot improve mileage. Helpful hint: It doesn't.

[TheLordZixx]

See how we have effecient means of using other sources of energy than fossil fuels!

[Caesarlll]

Id like to use this in my aquarium :D

[stonerj0e]

this shit makes me laugh . what a waste !

[joelito101]

Good job...

[HEINZUNIMOG]

how do you avoid flash back to the tank .

[RAZcracK]

Great work !!!

The little engine working with gasoline was 3 hp , how much it is now working with hydrogen ... I think hydrogen produces less power when you convert this kind of engines ...

I am interesting to convert my 125 cc little motorcycle to hydrogen ... You think it is possible and it will worth it? By gasoline it has 8-9 hp . How much hp would it be after i convert it to hydrogen ...

Too much questions i know but i'm really insterested on making it ... And once more Congratulations ...

[BavarianOwl]

your getting too much water vapor into the system make sure you use a bubbler and keep the water level way lower than the hyg gas intake hose ohh and besides the fact that you rock ,,i just wanna say dont listen to any body trying to slow you down or get in your way just f...ing do the damn thing

[Felipecabesas]

Don't let anyone tell you it can't be done>love that:)

Hey any Links to start reading up on a project like this, you know to learn properties and stuff needed.

Thanks

[DRWebster93]

Thats a snowblower engine. I can tell because of the shroud around the carb, and the lack of an air filter.

[thundercomputer]

now i want to see this run off of a HHO cell. has anyone done something similar? (links?)

[vancouverbluz]

how the hell are you getting the Hydrogen in there, i don't see any hoses to a tank. Is it liquid hydrogen?

[thelonewolf267]

did you watch the whole video?!

[ihelk]

you dont see the small tube?

[jemmismagic]

thats really cool, good idea and yet it works fin

[945TurboIC]

Engine probably from a snow thrower because of the keycontrolled ignition switch.

[JTyler52]

@945TurboIC Yea I thought snowblower too because of how the whole engine is set-up and plus tecumseh is known for snowblowers.....but if you look the throttle is on the side of the engine so idk dosnt seem very handy for a snowblower or a garden tiller.

[AdirondackNY]

anyone brave enough to post ideas should be praised for their efforts. the only way we are going to get through this energy problem is to share ideas and build on it

[LiquidChem]

@AdirondackNY either that, or, ... make everyone realize how there is in fact no energy problem or crisis whatsoever, that its all a big scam for our money... We have hundreds, yes hundreds of ways to make free energy. We can now power the entire planet for free with devices, but the almighty power of the rulers and money prevails, controlling us, and keeping these things secret. More and more, people are starting to realize that we CAN do this, and they cant stop us anymore. Spread awareness.

[ZAGTHEGREAT]

Ha Ha You called an internal combustion engine a "moter." Also: When opening a hydrogen canister, it should only be turned CCW 1/2-3/4 turn. NEVER all the way!

[tikijason]

Good to know, hey, where's your video so I can see how you do it properly? You didn't send a link...

[ZAGTHEGREAT]

I worked with alternative fuel sources on internal combustion engines for more than 40 years. This includes CNG, LP, diesel and electric vehicles. I am retired now and I don't do videos. I still occationally teach and do consultive work. You sound like you have potential in your research.  I will offer two points for you to consider in your future endeavers. Use the correct nomenclature so you don't sound like an idiot. Second, stop using baling wire to jury rig your projects. Good Luck!

[supersvinet1]

reg: zagtheuseless

u are so full of it.

glad ur not my teacher.

ive read ur comments on ur channel.

completely useless.

have a nice day dickhead

[ZAGTHEGREAT]

Supershithead, Thanks for those kind words. Are you always so bitter? Why? I believe I detect a little jelousy and resentment in you thoughts. I can't beat your ass because I am too old and can't see well, but I can out perform you on a intellectual basis without any effort whatsoever. When you get a little older and mature, you will hopefully see the world a little differently. Dont continue to hate everyone who is mentally superior to you. They can be of great help in times of need.

[NamesROverated]

and you shouldn't laugh at someone for a small mistake

[LiquidChem]

@ZAGTHEGREAT millions of people call an engine a motor, because thats exactly what it is, silly. [Motor: machine that converts other forms of energy into mechanical energy and so imparts motion] duh

[Pateraak1423]

@ZAGTHEGREAT correction "MOTOR" and yes, while not the correct scientific term, the word motor may be used to describe/refer to the internal comustion engine

[ZAGTHEGREAT]

@Pateraak1423 Thanks for your most intelligent reply. I will use the old adage " If you can't beat them, join them." So, from now on,"Motor" and "Engine" is the same thing. I will now use the same moronic logic to refer to the following: Chicken/Turkey: same thing, Pork/Beef: same thing, Male/Female: same thing, Pots/Pans: same thing, Car/Truck: same thing, Iron/Steel: same thing, Plastic/Rubber: same thing. I am so glad you have corrected me in my misunderstanding...........

[Pateraak1423]

@ZAGTHEGREAT ummm, no its called 'laymans term' foe example, the average man/woman on the street might not know what neurosurgery is, but will understand us if we say 'brain surgery'

[ZagdaGreat]

@Pateraak1423 Well, now that makes it so very clear since you explained it so well. So, when I say you have the intelligence of a "baboon" or a "gorilla," while not scientifically the same thing, the average man/woman will understand it is correct, because I am using "laymen's terms." Thanks for the clairification.

[Pateraak1423]

@ZagdaGreat yes, another example being if i called you an 'awkward moron' or a 'pedantic twat' while not strictly the same thing, the average person will look at this comment and realise you are one, no problem.

[ZagdaGreat]

@Pateraak1423 Oh real intelligent. Take my comments and reverse them to make a reply. Look, you fukin dumbasses, I give up and don't want to read any more of your replies. If you want to call an electric motor an "engine" or a diesel engine a "motor" then PLEASE go ahead and sound like an IDIOT! I don't care anymore! For those who understand, no explaination is needed. For those who don't, no explanation is possible!

[ZagdaGreat]

@mooreonic Yes, a d/b you could never measure up to. Do everyone a favor and stay moronic. People like you are dangerous when they are taught anything. Better to remain an ignorant cunt.

[ZagdaGreat]

@mooreonic Too late for that Pal, you have been a douche' bag all your life. No change in sight.....

[waqasyuri9]

@ZAGTHEGREAT HA HA YOU SPELLED MOTOR "MOTER" !!!!!!!!!!!!

[paulie2022]

@ZAGTHEGREAT look dude if u gona dis peps at least have some proof that u know what u saycos to be fair this vid is ace

[tikijason]

that's correct.

[ZagdaGreat]

@tikijason Yes, he has always been a doushe'bag

[ZagdaGreat]

@tikijason Yes, of course that is correct......

[tractorking93]

did u run that with no carb?

[gmc07joe]

Dean Foods called they want their crate back!

[DataMatrix47]

I don't know if it's true, but I've heard that running an internal combustion engine (especially two-stroke) on gas such as propane or hydrogen wears off the engine more quickly, because the petrol or diesel lubricates the engine. If this is correct, it would be a good thought to add nozzle to automatically squirt engine oil into the intake (just a tiny bit) to keep the engine lubricated.

[impaledsanity]

is it a briggs

[lazzer408]

Nope.

[Magganrchy]

If you wouldn't mind... I'm curious about how many Liters of gas your motor burns each minute.

I'm attempting to replicate, and then eventually hopefully scale up, but i want to use a, HHO generator instead of a bottle.

thank you

[sheik480]

Well, that depends. Usually, with utility engines, you can multiply the horsepower by 56.6 to roughly determine how many liters you need to flow to produce that much horsepower at whatever rpm your engine makes that much horsepower at (this is when using gasoline. When using hho, I don't know how much horsepower it will produce). Or you can take the displacement in cc's, multiply it by whatever rpm's you want to run it at, and divide it by 2000. I hope this helps.

[zppz]

you look a bit like Robin Williams

[tikijason]

thanks. i think. :)

[HHOhybridBuilder]

Hi there, just like to help.First of all that tank does not contain HHO but instead H2. On your regulator I saw it was on 35PSI setting.The engine is running too rich. Try to set the regulator about 10 to 15 PSI or maybe 5 to 10 psi. In this setting the oxygen hydrogen mixture must be almost perfect. Good luck and be extremely careful.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Any additional progress since this video?

[vekalist]

i thought it was smaller, like a size of my hand... until you went to start it. :D

[BulldogHHO]

You did good by showing everyone that a 4stroke engine can run on hho alone,Your problems are simple,it is all in your carberation system and your pressure regulation which is easy to controll,once I master correct penmanship you shall figure this out:o) good luck and stay safe.

[dfsh69]

looooooooooooool 3 hp

[tikijason]

I'm not sure why you're making fun of this video, so I went to check out your uploaded videos to see what I'm doing wrong. And there was nothing there...

[dude00074]

@tikijason he isn't its just pretty funny that its only 3 hp i mean thats pretty weak and its also a small engine. im not criticizing your vid, just pointing a few things out.

[triggerhappy77707]

The reason it does not throttle correctly, is because the hydrogen/air mixture. On a regular gas carb, the throttle just opens and closes a little metal thing, the more the metal thing is open, the more air is allowed to flow, which allows it to suck the gas harder, which of course, sucks more gas :P. So, what you should have is maybe some sheet metal to go over the intake, and adjust it to change the mixture for each cycle. But what do i know? i am only 15:P.

[jasonjh4g63]

Very nice but the backfire is a timing issue do to the hydrogen's ability to flash point quicker then gas. You need to delay the firing long enough for the piston to get past top dead center and start its down stroke so retard the timing a bunch. On top of that 4 stroke engines were never designed to run hydrogen. The detonation problem comes from the exhaust valve getting to hot and preigniting the hydrogen prematurely. Wankel rotary motors were originally designed for hydrogen!

[triggerhappy77707]

Yea, but since the only way to adjust timing is to move the magneto, which is hard and time comsuming, you can just convert it to run on an ignition coil from a car. I have some experience(check my channel) with ignition coils and high voltage. A simple way to do this is have a reed switch(basically, when a magnetic field is present, it touches two peices of metal and closes a circuit) that turns a relay on and off, that switches twelve volts into the ignition coil. Lemme know and i will help :P

[triggerhappy77707]

Yea, lemme finish what i was saying. Anyway, with a reed switch, when the magnet on the flywheel passes the switch, it closes, causing the relay to close, which the sends electricty through the igntion coil that makes the high voltage to cause the spark plug to spark. A better thing to use would be transistor or mosfet instead of relay, cause the contacts on the relay will wear out fast, on a mosfet or transistor would not, but that is more sophisticated and stuff.... with the reed switch....

[triggerhappy77707]

.....all you have to do is change position where the magnet passes to adjust timing! It is quite simple really. But, you will have to use a 12 volt battery for the ignition coil and relay(if you use one) power supply. Or you could just use a small dc power supply that puts out 12 volts and maybe 5 or 10 amps. Ok, so maybe this is a *little* to much just to have an engine run on hydrogen, but i would do it... FOR THE LULZ :P nah, because it is fun and something different.

[krankiev]

You need an airflow control. Plain and simple. Try adapting a carb instead of not using one.

[triggerhappy77707]

Well, crap. i should have read this before saying all that :P. But yea, just have the hydrogen go into the carb. To adjust throttle though, you will have to adjust the flow of hydrogen as well as the air flow valve(throttle on carb) on the carburetor.

[cyborgtroy]

Make it a go-kart!

[Slick5923]

Very cool! Now make a Hydrogen generator system that runs off of solar panels! Then you could step up your system to run a pickup truck engine. The Hydrogen generator system Could fit in the bed of the truck and the solar panels on top of the bed.  FREE GAS!

[cyborgtroy]

Or build a way bigger one on your roof and fuel up at home.

[jamesb1221222]

heh, true.. im gonna try it on my 3 horse motor then since it has a bad carburetor. thanks for the info

[jamesb1221222]

ok. that sounds alright. also, you could have ran the tubing right through where the air filter was on the carburetor so you would have throttle control

[tikijason]

True, but... the throttle control is much more precise with the needle valve, with the added bonus that you can shut the gas off at any time, and quickly. That is definitely a plus. Plus, it looks cooler stripped down. Just my two cents' worth.

[jamesb1221222]

how much did that bottle of hydrogen cost? i want to try this on my briggs 18hp VTWIN

[tikijason]

The bottle was about $200, filled, and the regulator another $100. Hope this helps.

[moss1transcendant]

yea its the engine timing they are mostly electronic ignition these days. was nice to see it running, i have to build ashed so ican mess about too . i have a lawn mower engine and would love to make various hho cells. there are many different ways to go .

[xuserx2000]

looks like a two cycle engine...what are you using for lubricant, since you aren't using 2cycle oil/gas mixed...?

That would also be a problem..

[kiarra00]

This engine is a 4stroke, so it has the oil in the crankcase

[spikonaleash]

i like the little back fire it did

[toxicfrost123]

how much

[BasementBen]

Would u happen to know how many LPM a 4 HP engine requires to run on full throttle using hydrogen gas, or biogas?

Thanks much.

Ben

[tikijason]

Not exactly LPM, I'm dealing with a pressurized tank so my measurements are in PSI. Sorry I can't help you out. Good Luck

[sheik480]

A 4hp utility engine (most people use utility engines for home projects) would need about 225 l/m to make peak horsepower.

[palehorsepalerider]

you have a couple flash back arrestors on that line. One at engine one at tank reg.

[tikijason]

Stay tuned - I have ruled Hydrogen out as a fuel alternative where I live (nowhere to buy it except for welding supply houses - expensive!) but am going to try E85 (ethanol %85). This requires a conversion kit for my car and who knows, I may start distilling it myself legally. I'll post a video of my ethanol conversion in the next week. Watch for it! Thanks for all the support!!

-tikijason

[adam3176]

Well yes and no. If it was on a foot peddle valve and the pressure was high going to the valve the throtle responce would be to sensitive. You have more control with lower pressure..

But Hey i would like to see another video if you made one. I would like to see that thing run agian.

[adam3176]

Bring the pressure down to 5psi going in, 10 will build up and choke the engine. gotta retime that thing. HATS OFFF. lets to a car?

[lazzer408]

Pressure doesn't really doesn't matter. You need to know the volume.

[slider1860]

Jason, I saw a video o Stan Meyer and he was talking about the problem with the burn rate being faster than gas so he was talking about mixing with an inert gas to slow the rate down to that of gasoline. Basically he was forcing more air to mix with the hydrogen.

[MichaelJPierce]

if you look at his patent, its not just air. He cycles in the exhaust from burned hydrogen back into the mix as well, or at least thats how I interrupted the images. The text reads "Non-combustible gas", but from what I've been reading isn't the byproduct from burning hydrogen steam?

[slider1860]

That is what I think that he was doing also. Kind of like an EGR valve on a car.

[MichaelJPierce]

any idea how to measure burn rate in order to make adjustments?

[HHOhybridBuilder]

Hi Jason just make sure that storage tank will not suck any amount of oxygen. If it did so you will be airborn. Be extremely carefull.

[Darkfoster22]

I don't work on small engines much.But have to see what your dealing with.Take off the black cover on the front side.

Hydrogen Fuel - Engine Fundamentals #3

Must see Vid

[toxicfrost123]

did you have to change the timing on it?

[Darkfoster22]

Yes you have to change the timing H2 burns much faster timing sould be about 1-5 BTC

[toxicfrost123]

how can i do that? any links? thanks

[fordwillkillyou]

Should have used a Briggs though briggs can take anything!

[cricketol]

as water you can store it it does not blow up and to compress take a metal tank and build the hho gen in it but make it so you can get to the gen ez

[tikijason]

Sorry, I don't follow. As I understand it, it takes quite an amount of electricity to generate the HHO. As in, so much, that to make it that way is very ineffecient cost-wise. As for storing it in a metal tank, my tank is holding 2,200 psi of the stuff and there's no way that a "bubbler" will produce that kind of pressure. Please help me if I am wrong. Thanks.

[HHOhybridBuilder]

Hi Jason, Just make sure that storage tank will not suck oxygen. If it did so you will be sky high BOOM. Be extremely CAREFULL

[winvistainfo]

How would it suck oxygen? At 2,200 psi, it is hardly a vacuum...

[cricketol]

no it takes 1.7 volts per pair of plats amps make the rest. the amps are what you really what not the volts. the volts eat the plats as i under stand it

[winvistainfo]

If that is how you are going to make the hydrogen, you might as well just use an electric motor - it would be far more efficient than using electrolysis to make hydrogen to burn in an ICE.

HHO generators are absolutely not a solution to our dependence on oil! For practical use you need to store it. Your simple HHO generator you put on your car hardly makes up for the inefficiency of your car alternator. It's just a band-aid.

[mustangified]

well, we are kinda screwed that way. Hydrogen cars are an easier solution because not much would change in converting your car to run on hydrogen. However, Hydrogen is a pain in the ass to produce through Electrolysis. But that is where Nuclear energy would help. We could construct Nuclear power-plants, but Green-Peace gets in the way too much.

The best bet for the next 50 years would be hybrids, with engines that cut out cylinders (for trucks and Suvs).

[cricketol]

the only reason you think it is not cheap is because you did not make the Hydrogen you goit it out of that can and not out of water with is pretty cheap ... i built a hho gen for under 20 dollors

[tikijason]

Cool. Now tell me how you compress and store that gas.

[cricketol]

you dont need to store it .. if u dont need anymore turn off the cell and leave it as water

[Johanoeberg]

Best hydrogen video I ever seen on youtube, in terms of openness and showing everything, no monkeybuisness! Just hate when people are showing a dirty engine compartment with no controll and saying it runs on hydrogen (Even water!), just laughable

[NBoole]

for control, I would recommend continuing to use some sort a carburetor. If you take a pipe, put a butterfly valve at one end to control the airflow, a flange to mount it to the engine at the other, and tap the hydrogen line with a different valve between the butterfly valve and the engine, you should be able to keep it pretty well controlled. The control mechanism described ought to also work with other fuels. I know, of course, that its somewhat primitive in design.

[abanyai123]

Nicely done sir! What fun!  You'll need to delay that timing....your flame front is hitting the piston too early I would guess. Keep up the good work!

P.S. Ignore that guy's "moisture in the intake" suggestion further down. That's a good way to blow a head gasket or hydraulic-lock an engine.

[stronglungs]

does it take 10L/min or more to run a car?

[sheik480]

Waaayyyy more. An 1800cc or 1.8 L engine will use ~750L/min at idle.

[clackdwack]

what is your method of creating hydrogen?? and then storing

[tikijason]

I don't yet - right now I am using gas from a commercial tank. Now that I know this works, I'll try gas production soon. Thanks for the question.

[electric789]

the site teslatech info might be a possible help

[waynedavisband]

timing prob,,take the flywheel off and remove the shear pin file it down to let the flywheel move more toward top dead center

[electric789]

you can get a adjustable timing thing from the local auto parts store. it will delay or advance it. i have a friend with one and he has a little meter with a little knob to adjust the timing ahead or back.

[h2opower]

Don't forget the engine timing for the burn rate of hydrogen is much faster than that of gasoline.

[tikijason]

Thanks for the tip, I was anticipating doing that next. Do you have any experience in the timing of an engine like this? Many thanks!

[must3232]

One thing that you could try that I always wanted to do is add a small amount of steam to the intake while you are trying to run it on hydrogen. In a gas engine the moisture starts to bog down the engine depending on how much moisture is going in. so if the hydrogen burned faster than the moisture may help to reduce the rate so that the engine will run more smoothly. Finding the correct ratio would be troublesome

[h2opower]

Not with one that small, but if memory serves me right, the spark part of it is the timing too.

I am trying to get an 1800cc engine working on force or drawn injection as done by Stanley Meyer and Daniel Dingle. But first I must get the WFC working corectly. I still have a lot of testing to be done, both of them seem to have done just about the same thing in two different ways. I have mixted both of them and am trying to see if I can get 10L/min or more. Good luck on you work.