When considering the issue of free will and evil, I would like to point out two ffacts:
1) The bible does not have the phrase "free will" in it at all. The concept of free will is a modern interpretation of certain bible passages.
2) When a person commits a crime, the victim has not been able to exercise free will. In other words, when someone molests a child, the biblical god gives the molester free will to commit the crime, but does not allow the victim free will to stop the crime.
Delusions help people deal with the cruelties of life!!
I am sure there will be Christians trying to say god has a plan for her in heaven but lets be real...This girl suffered unspeakable torture and where was this so-called god of mercy?
This crime makes me so sick! I am a Quadriplegic who was lucky enough to have recovered limited use of my hands...Most do not. This crime will bother me for some time. SAD!
I agree that this is very very sad, but being a Christian doesn't make me delusional. God can not be held accountable for someones actions because he gave us free will. It is because of free will that there is such evil in the world. I am praying for the soul of this little child. May she have a remarkable place in heaven with our lord and my her death not be in vain. I pray that she will help in the fight for children's rights and prevention/awareness of child abuse and neglect.
I understand you mean well but that kind of thinking seriously baffles me...How you can say the god of the Bible gives folks free will but will strike them dead for no obeying...If not, then he will burn them in hell! All mythologies are very interesting to me but I find it very odd in a modern world that there are so many who believe these deities are real.
I have nothing against religion until the hate campaigns; anti women's rights; anti-science; anti medicine;etc., that scares me!!
Agreed! When people take things to extreme is when it gets nuts. But God will not strike you dead for not obeying, that is people misinterpreting the Bible. God loves us and wants us to be with him and Hell is a place where he doesn't exist. I don't think that I'm irrational or simple for believing and having faith in something bigger then myself. For feeling that this sweet child is with my Lord and Savior instead of just being dead. I think it's a much harder choice to be atheist.
I am sorry but you are simply not talking about the Bible I read...The King James Version has god that is a bigoted evil rapist child molesting cold blooded murderer!
PLEASE don't do yourself a like that and try to redefine and pick and choose so that you feel comfortable with such evil! You can have very healthy spiritual life without that book! PLEASE!!
You know in your heart what I said is TRUE! Please dont say people are misinterpreting the BIBLE as you know this is not true!
I'm sorry that is what you got from reading the Bible. The God I've known my whole life is not Evil, and he brings a lot of people to do good things. What's so wrong with believing in something that brings good?And I have read the Bible, New and Old Testament, translation changes things around, trust me, plus the times are different. The New Testament brings us Jesus Christ and he certainly isn't evil, the furthest thing from it. I just don't think you should be knock people for their beliefs.
I am not against people believing what they want to. What I am against is using the Bible as cover to deny people equal rights to marry. Among many other things like public education and scientific research. If you keep your religion personal then I have no problem with that. Once religion is brought into the public then I have every right to criticize it and point out the very nasty "morals" it teaches.
I am sorry...You may feel good with your beliefs but to deny what is written in the Bible means you either have not read your Bible, or you are wilfully blocking it out, or you are lying to me and yourself! It is written and to dent what is written is extremely bad according to the bible itself. I understand you may not follow many of the laws of the Old Testament despite Jesus saying he did not come to destroy the Law but to fulfill it...And we both know he must return to fulfill it. Law Rules
I completely admit that there are awful things in the bible. I have read it and I know the kinds of things you are referring too. But you have to take into consideration the time it was written and the translation issues. Many things come out very different when you read them in the original Greek writing. And I completely agree that people shouldn't use their religion to keep things out of politics. But that isn't what you are fighting here, someone prayed for this little girls life....
And you decided to make fun of our beliefs by calling us delusional. That isn't fighting your cause, you are basically doing the same thing that you clam to hate. You can't blame Christians for all the bad there is in the world, and you should cherry pick things in the bible any more then I should. You are only choosing to see the bad things. I'm sorry but you are starting to come off a little contradicting. I just don't think you should go around making fun of people praying.
I'm also Pro gay marriage and don't like when people use my faith as a weapon to combat it. I agree with you there. But being a Christian is a choice, doesn't mean I'm an idiot or delusional or even in some sort of denial. I just choose to believe that there is a good force out there greater then us and my faith happens to be Catholic. Just like you've chosen yours, whatever that may be, but I don't want to sit by while you mock someone for praying. Especially for this child.
I know what I said is awful...However, here is why I say it. People who believe or have the view of so-called Christianity that you do are actually enabling those who follow what the Bible actually says & means (despite translation). I honestly think those like you who basically build their faith around the positive parts of Jesus teachings need to break form these people who actually adhere closer to the actual teachings of the Bible.
Until this break occurs then you and those like you are losing respect in this country! Look at all the polling data! People are growing tired of the Bronze Age hate, anti-science and ignorance that comes from Christians! There is no distinction as those who believe as you are lumped in because you claim adherence to the same book! Making excuses as many do for what the Bible says only empowers those who do adhere to the awful hateful and ignorant teachings.
So, the entire word and meaning of what it is to be a Christian is what? The fastest growing group in America is those who claim no religion! WHY? Because we are a smarter more informed society. People went on praising the Bible but not ever actually reading it and understanding it. But now it hard for those who thought they were so-called Christians to associate themselves with such Bronze Age thinking! People are understand there is a huge dif between "Religion" & "Spirituality"
I know many people who went to church and thought they were Christians. But after actually reading their Bibles or being asked to defend what is written in it simply quit trying. You do not need the Bible to have a healthy spiritual life. Yes, the Bible warns against that thinking but ALL RELIGIONS DO!!! It is how they survive! They are right and claim they OWN sole posession to the pathway to the afterlife! In reality it all made up by MEN!! Bronze Age Men!
Yes but Jesus Christ was a real person, and I believe very strongly that he was in fact the son of God. I don't think that everything in the Bible is as bad as you believe it to be. And I understand that there are others that read the Bible and take it to mean something that fits their views, but that's the way it was written. To be molded to fit you personal needs and what you think it means. Unfortunately some people read hate in the Bible and produce hate. They are the only ones I don't want
to be associated with. And it really saddened me that there is a growing group of people who don't believe in God or Jesus Christ because he can bring so much beauty and happiness to your life. I fear there are a lot of empty and sad people in this group, but that is my opinion. I don't think there is anything wrong in praying for someone or even talking to them about your personal morals based on your faith. However....
I believe in our Country and the freedom that the founding fathers had envisioned for her. And based on those principles I believe in Gay Marriage. I also don't think it's right to have Prayers in school either. I'm very much a liberal American who happens to have an unwavering faith in God. How can this be? I base myself on one strong story from the New Testament. When Jesus had the adulteress brought to him, he who is with out sin cast the first stone. I'm not a stone thrower. And that's where
I believe that a lot of my Christan brothers and sisters are failing. God was never judgmental, but he wasn't afraid to speak out, and to me there is a big difference in the two. Besides that, the republicans in the Nation have not done a very good job being representatives for the faith in my opinion. And for some reason there is an assumption that if you are Liberal you are neither patriotic or a good Christian. I think there are a lot of misconceptions in our country that make it hard for all
you sound ridiculous, substituting god for jesus "god was never judgemental,but he wasn't afraid to speak out" you mean jesus, right? or are you really as slow (small bus) as this makes you sound?
Pathetic. You don't t choose to believe in a religion but then choose not to believe in certain parts.
I have respect for people with strong beliefs in their religion and people who adhere strongly to their religious code....IE radical islam. At least they believe in something and stick to it.
Sorry to disappoint you but I'm not a sheep that listens to everything the Catholic Church tells me. For example they say that the Bible is a divine book written by God through man.....why wouldn't they tell you that? And up until recently the didn't believe in divorce for battered women.....hmm....And they still don't believe in the birth control. So I am a fence sitter because I believe in God and have some views different from what my church wants me to think? Whatever you say....
Why do you feel you need organized religion to believe in God?
The way I see it you can believe in a God but disagree with organized religion. Do you think God would look favorably upon someone who clings to an organized religion that they truly believe very little in?
Why do you assume that I don't believe in the Catholic Church? just because I don't agree with every single thing they preach doesn't mean that I believe very little in this form of organized religion. And I think God knows what's in my heart and knows me better then I know myself, so I think he'll make a decision based on this and not other things like my Youtube conversations with strangers or the inner political conflicts that I have with the Catholic Church.
@MetroDNews ...Interesting, in my opinion, people who adhere strongly to any religious code or belief have psychological issues that need science fiction and or magic for them to explain life for them. They scare the hell out of me.
I'd rather have a mind open with wonder, than closed with belief.
oh no,that's dead wrong
smurfsgot1 1 year ago
lol
enuvune 2 years ago
Poor little baby girl.
AgentFantastic 2 years ago
sad
gallyun1 2 years ago
When considering the issue of free will and evil, I would like to point out two ffacts:
1) The bible does not have the phrase "free will" in it at all. The concept of free will is a modern interpretation of certain bible passages.
2) When a person commits a crime, the victim has not been able to exercise free will. In other words, when someone molests a child, the biblical god gives the molester free will to commit the crime, but does not allow the victim free will to stop the crime.
Born0nly0nce 2 years ago
Freshen up the smell of a rotting corpse with the delightful aroma of moth balls! Good going!
BinkieMcFartnuggets 2 years ago
i can't believe the evil adopted mother left the child to die and was collecting ssi for the kid
clearwater04 2 years ago
i know the family and that's not the case.
denyados 2 years ago
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denyados 2 years ago
wow how low must humans sink?
jackeasyking 2 years ago 3
good question
gallyun1 2 years ago
That poor dear child. I hope the people who did that are punished to the fullest extent of the law!
gungagin 2 years ago 8
The adoptive mom was probably still collecting money for the child after death...sick people!!!
mattmurd0ck 2 years ago 7
You can bet that's the reason she was put into storage.
snowfan 2 years ago
yeah so sick. why were you watching this video again?
polyzygote 2 years ago
That is so fucked up. May her soul have everlasting happyness in Heaven.
dre8791 2 years ago 2
And what if heaven isn't real. then what happens?
d3v07 2 years ago
Delusions help people deal with the cruelties of life!!
I am sure there will be Christians trying to say god has a plan for her in heaven but lets be real...This girl suffered unspeakable torture and where was this so-called god of mercy?
This crime makes me so sick! I am a Quadriplegic who was lucky enough to have recovered limited use of my hands...Most do not. This crime will bother me for some time. SAD!
SkyDaddy7 2 years ago
I agree that this is very very sad, but being a Christian doesn't make me delusional. God can not be held accountable for someones actions because he gave us free will. It is because of free will that there is such evil in the world. I am praying for the soul of this little child. May she have a remarkable place in heaven with our lord and my her death not be in vain. I pray that she will help in the fight for children's rights and prevention/awareness of child abuse and neglect.
heatherjgarc28 2 years ago
I understand you mean well but that kind of thinking seriously baffles me...How you can say the god of the Bible gives folks free will but will strike them dead for no obeying...If not, then he will burn them in hell! All mythologies are very interesting to me but I find it very odd in a modern world that there are so many who believe these deities are real.
I have nothing against religion until the hate campaigns; anti women's rights; anti-science; anti medicine;etc., that scares me!!
SkyDaddy7 2 years ago
Agreed! When people take things to extreme is when it gets nuts. But God will not strike you dead for not obeying, that is people misinterpreting the Bible. God loves us and wants us to be with him and Hell is a place where he doesn't exist. I don't think that I'm irrational or simple for believing and having faith in something bigger then myself. For feeling that this sweet child is with my Lord and Savior instead of just being dead. I think it's a much harder choice to be atheist.
heatherjgarc28 2 years ago
I am sorry but you are simply not talking about the Bible I read...The King James Version has god that is a bigoted evil rapist child molesting cold blooded murderer!
PLEASE don't do yourself a like that and try to redefine and pick and choose so that you feel comfortable with such evil! You can have very healthy spiritual life without that book! PLEASE!!
You know in your heart what I said is TRUE! Please dont say people are misinterpreting the BIBLE as you know this is not true!
SkyDaddy7 2 years ago
I'm sorry that is what you got from reading the Bible. The God I've known my whole life is not Evil, and he brings a lot of people to do good things. What's so wrong with believing in something that brings good?And I have read the Bible, New and Old Testament, translation changes things around, trust me, plus the times are different. The New Testament brings us Jesus Christ and he certainly isn't evil, the furthest thing from it. I just don't think you should be knock people for their beliefs.
heatherjgarc28 2 years ago
I am not against people believing what they want to. What I am against is using the Bible as cover to deny people equal rights to marry. Among many other things like public education and scientific research. If you keep your religion personal then I have no problem with that. Once religion is brought into the public then I have every right to criticize it and point out the very nasty "morals" it teaches.
SkyDaddy7 2 years ago
I am sorry...You may feel good with your beliefs but to deny what is written in the Bible means you either have not read your Bible, or you are wilfully blocking it out, or you are lying to me and yourself! It is written and to dent what is written is extremely bad according to the bible itself. I understand you may not follow many of the laws of the Old Testament despite Jesus saying he did not come to destroy the Law but to fulfill it...And we both know he must return to fulfill it. Law Rules
SkyDaddy7 2 years ago
I completely admit that there are awful things in the bible. I have read it and I know the kinds of things you are referring too. But you have to take into consideration the time it was written and the translation issues. Many things come out very different when you read them in the original Greek writing. And I completely agree that people shouldn't use their religion to keep things out of politics. But that isn't what you are fighting here, someone prayed for this little girls life....
heatherjgarc28 2 years ago
And you decided to make fun of our beliefs by calling us delusional. That isn't fighting your cause, you are basically doing the same thing that you clam to hate. You can't blame Christians for all the bad there is in the world, and you should cherry pick things in the bible any more then I should. You are only choosing to see the bad things. I'm sorry but you are starting to come off a little contradicting. I just don't think you should go around making fun of people praying.
heatherjgarc28 2 years ago
I'm also Pro gay marriage and don't like when people use my faith as a weapon to combat it. I agree with you there. But being a Christian is a choice, doesn't mean I'm an idiot or delusional or even in some sort of denial. I just choose to believe that there is a good force out there greater then us and my faith happens to be Catholic. Just like you've chosen yours, whatever that may be, but I don't want to sit by while you mock someone for praying. Especially for this child.
heatherjgarc28 2 years ago
P.S. Sorry for the misspellings and errors. I'm trying to type fast!
heatherjgarc28 2 years ago
I know what I said is awful...However, here is why I say it. People who believe or have the view of so-called Christianity that you do are actually enabling those who follow what the Bible actually says & means (despite translation). I honestly think those like you who basically build their faith around the positive parts of Jesus teachings need to break form these people who actually adhere closer to the actual teachings of the Bible.
SkyDaddy7 2 years ago
Until this break occurs then you and those like you are losing respect in this country! Look at all the polling data! People are growing tired of the Bronze Age hate, anti-science and ignorance that comes from Christians! There is no distinction as those who believe as you are lumped in because you claim adherence to the same book! Making excuses as many do for what the Bible says only empowers those who do adhere to the awful hateful and ignorant teachings.
SkyDaddy7 2 years ago
So, the entire word and meaning of what it is to be a Christian is what? The fastest growing group in America is those who claim no religion! WHY? Because we are a smarter more informed society. People went on praising the Bible but not ever actually reading it and understanding it. But now it hard for those who thought they were so-called Christians to associate themselves with such Bronze Age thinking! People are understand there is a huge dif between "Religion" & "Spirituality"
SkyDaddy7 2 years ago
I know many people who went to church and thought they were Christians. But after actually reading their Bibles or being asked to defend what is written in it simply quit trying. You do not need the Bible to have a healthy spiritual life. Yes, the Bible warns against that thinking but ALL RELIGIONS DO!!! It is how they survive! They are right and claim they OWN sole posession to the pathway to the afterlife! In reality it all made up by MEN!! Bronze Age Men!
SkyDaddy7 2 years ago
Yes but Jesus Christ was a real person, and I believe very strongly that he was in fact the son of God. I don't think that everything in the Bible is as bad as you believe it to be. And I understand that there are others that read the Bible and take it to mean something that fits their views, but that's the way it was written. To be molded to fit you personal needs and what you think it means. Unfortunately some people read hate in the Bible and produce hate. They are the only ones I don't want
heatherjgarc28 2 years ago
to be associated with. And it really saddened me that there is a growing group of people who don't believe in God or Jesus Christ because he can bring so much beauty and happiness to your life. I fear there are a lot of empty and sad people in this group, but that is my opinion. I don't think there is anything wrong in praying for someone or even talking to them about your personal morals based on your faith. However....
heatherjgarc28 2 years ago
I believe in our Country and the freedom that the founding fathers had envisioned for her. And based on those principles I believe in Gay Marriage. I also don't think it's right to have Prayers in school either. I'm very much a liberal American who happens to have an unwavering faith in God. How can this be? I base myself on one strong story from the New Testament. When Jesus had the adulteress brought to him, he who is with out sin cast the first stone. I'm not a stone thrower. And that's where
heatherjgarc28 2 years ago
I believe that a lot of my Christan brothers and sisters are failing. God was never judgmental, but he wasn't afraid to speak out, and to me there is a big difference in the two. Besides that, the republicans in the Nation have not done a very good job being representatives for the faith in my opinion. And for some reason there is an assumption that if you are Liberal you are neither patriotic or a good Christian. I think there are a lot of misconceptions in our country that make it hard for all
heatherjgarc28 2 years ago
you sound ridiculous, substituting god for jesus "god was never judgemental,but he wasn't afraid to speak out" you mean jesus, right? or are you really as slow (small bus) as this makes you sound?
latinluvrxxx 2 years ago
Pathetic. You don't t choose to believe in a religion but then choose not to believe in certain parts.
I have respect for people with strong beliefs in their religion and people who adhere strongly to their religious code....IE radical islam. At least they believe in something and stick to it.
You're just a fence sitter.
MetroDNews 2 years ago
Sorry to disappoint you but I'm not a sheep that listens to everything the Catholic Church tells me. For example they say that the Bible is a divine book written by God through man.....why wouldn't they tell you that? And up until recently the didn't believe in divorce for battered women.....hmm....And they still don't believe in the birth control. So I am a fence sitter because I believe in God and have some views different from what my church wants me to think? Whatever you say....
heatherjgarc28 2 years ago
Why do you feel you need organized religion to believe in God?
The way I see it you can believe in a God but disagree with organized religion. Do you think God would look favorably upon someone who clings to an organized religion that they truly believe very little in?
MetroDNews 2 years ago
Why do you assume that I don't believe in the Catholic Church? just because I don't agree with every single thing they preach doesn't mean that I believe very little in this form of organized religion. And I think God knows what's in my heart and knows me better then I know myself, so I think he'll make a decision based on this and not other things like my Youtube conversations with strangers or the inner political conflicts that I have with the Catholic Church.
heatherjgarc28 2 years ago
@MetroDNews ...Interesting, in my opinion, people who adhere strongly to any religious code or belief have psychological issues that need science fiction and or magic for them to explain life for them. They scare the hell out of me.
I'd rather have a mind open with wonder, than closed with belief.
DAWNED 2 years ago
Funny you don't scare me.Nothing can seperate me from the love of God!!
destructionofarose 2 years ago
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heatherjgarc28 2 years ago