The MACD (in yellow at the bottom) is not MACD H(istogram) as Elder plots it. It is the main MACD line itself plotted as a histogram -- something suggested by Gerald Appel.
In Appel's teachings about the MACD he shows lines as divergences even though they don't break the zero line. Therefore i didn't require it of the MACD scan.
For the MACDH scanner, yes, it requires breaking the back of the bear/bull ala Elder.
I'm confused. At 5:53, UUP, at the right edge, there's a 'buy' signal. Prices have sunk to a new low, but as Alex Elder explains, for there to be a proper bullish divergence, the histogram needs to have risen above the zero line "breaking the back of the bear" before making a higher low. This hasn't happened. Also, in the middle of the chart prices have made a lower low, but both MACD H and line have made much lower lows than the earlier splash of bearishness. Similar issues on other charts.
@bunniesonprozac I actually find RSI 14 divergences more reliable... I do use MACd however with multiple time frames for intraday trading. Of course you need to watch the Advancers vs decliners and ad volume. I also watch the vix, tick and trin.
The problem I have with divergences is twofold. Firstly, even though MACD H may tick up after forming a higher low, price very often just continues on the downtrend before reversing (if it indeed does so). Stop placement is very tricky -too close and you're stopped out before the trend reverses, too far away and the risk-reward ratio negates the trade. Even worse on uptrends -without meaningful overhead resistance you may as well stick a pin in the chart for your stop.
The MACD (in yellow at the bottom) is not MACD H(istogram) as Elder plots it. It is the main MACD line itself plotted as a histogram -- something suggested by Gerald Appel.
In Appel's teachings about the MACD he shows lines as divergences even though they don't break the zero line. Therefore i didn't require it of the MACD scan.
For the MACDH scanner, yes, it requires breaking the back of the bear/bull ala Elder.
Good questions, thanks for asking!
BackTestingReport 2 years ago
I'm confused. At 5:53, UUP, at the right edge, there's a 'buy' signal. Prices have sunk to a new low, but as Alex Elder explains, for there to be a proper bullish divergence, the histogram needs to have risen above the zero line "breaking the back of the bear" before making a higher low. This hasn't happened. Also, in the middle of the chart prices have made a lower low, but both MACD H and line have made much lower lows than the earlier splash of bearishness. Similar issues on other charts.
bunniesonprozac 2 years ago
@bunniesonprozac I actually find RSI 14 divergences more reliable... I do use MACd however with multiple time frames for intraday trading. Of course you need to watch the Advancers vs decliners and ad volume. I also watch the vix, tick and trin.
NYredwhiteandblue 1 year ago
@NYredwhiteandblue
The problem I have with divergences is twofold. Firstly, even though MACD H may tick up after forming a higher low, price very often just continues on the downtrend before reversing (if it indeed does so). Stop placement is very tricky -too close and you're stopped out before the trend reverses, too far away and the risk-reward ratio negates the trade. Even worse on uptrends -without meaningful overhead resistance you may as well stick a pin in the chart for your stop.
bunniesonprozac 1 year ago