First Bus Leeds - another dangerous driver EO02FLE

[MrCyclesafe]

first bus drivers are crap ...... /watch?v=bRDX8z6WLQc

[Nigel16032009]

A suggestion: Keep clear of large vehicles! Is there really enough space at the bottom of Eastgate to do that? NO! So hold back and let the bus get out of the way.

Stupid Leeds City Council rebuilt (or should that be f***** up) Eastgate in the late 80's by narrowing the road as much as they could. If you look at photos from the 70's or even earlier you'll see it's a lot wider. Strange then that we now have more traffic! There's just no common sense in this world!

[CarpioMonstro]

wow, some right twat motorists here taring all cyclists with the same brush as the ones who run red lights with oncoming traffic, i'm a cyclist myself but not once have i disobeyed road signs and the such, i use the correct lanes and i always check for cars, the last time i nearly got hit i admit was partly my fault as i had no lights at 5:30 in the morning but the guy in the car saw me as i was passing his side road while i was on the main road yet still pulled out when i had right of way.

[TNT1m]

How did I got here

[1100HondaCB]

There are two things I hate in life: Cyclists and roundabouts. Roundabouts need to go as they have out stayed their welcome and clearly don't work. Cyclists are just pieces of shit.

[conkeroonee]

If a driver hits a cyclist the driver is always blamed. Some cycle riders seem to try to get hit to claim the compo.

[labyonnette]

If you can do nothing but moan about motorists BUY A FUCKING CAR

[brianm4242]

@labyonnette If you can do nothing than moan about cyclists then buy a bike!

[themanmaschine]

Cyclists are arrogant pains in the arse, and thanks to all of this green nonsense they now think they're invincible and have more right to use the road than anyone else, they just piss me off and I don't wonder that buses put the breeze up their kilts!

[labyonnette]

@themanmaschine I couldnt agree more. These bloody cyclist are self opiniontated, arrogant and agressive. The DO think they own the road and that they can do no wrong. Now they are all paranoid and wear helmet cams. What a buch of morons, give blood run over a cyclist

[conkeroonee]

Get knocked off your bike + claim £8k damages - result !! :D

[erroneousapostrophe]

Cyclists are fucking road vermin and should be gassed

[MintSauce42]

@erroneousapostrophe umadbro?

[erroneousapostrophe]

@MintSauce42 imatrollingdisvideaufknrtard

[MintSauce42]

@erroneousapostrophe Your trolling is bad and you should feel bad >:C

[erroneousapostrophe]

@MintSauce42 You should feel worse for responding and because you are a lard-eating unemployed northern inbred

[MintSauce42]

@erroneousapostrophe Yeah, you're really bad at this

[erroneousapostrophe]

@MintSauce42 Yet good enough to get several responses from you - thanks for your input.

[MintSauce42]

@erroneousapostrophe I try

[copey78]

You choose to ride a gay bike, so therefore put yourself in a vulnerable position. Don't complain when you have brushes with vehicles after you're holding them up. We're not in the 1950s you know, people have places to be and don't want to be stuck behind some faggot on a push bike.

[grogangreen]

The video doesnt show where either cycle or bus actually comes from, i assume the Solo ( Bus ) is coming from the Bus station as it route dictates and should be in the left hand lane, BUT the cycle is there so from the angle it looks like he is in the middle because he has given the cycle EXTRA room and yes he misjudges the cycles speed so you both meet at the corner. As a Leeds bus driver and club road cyclist who does 120 Miles + a week if i were driving the bus i would have slowed and waited.

[Dunn0999]

@twiggo66 Dude dont generalise cyclists, as one I obey the rules unfortunately I have been knocked down by a van that doesnt mean all van drivers are bad

[fatsamcastle]

@paulcowie95 you forgot cyclists, they're pretty bad.

[MyNameIsDuffmarn]

you had plenty of room pull the panties from your twat

[krytag]

You mentioned the law about giving room for cyclists. Let me tell you of other laws

YOU MUST GIVE WAY TO THE RIGHT AT ROUNDABOUTS AND AT JUNCTIONS.

YOU MUST USE A CYCLE LANE IF ONE IS PROVIDED

YOU MUST STOP AT TRAFFIC LIGHTS WHEN THEY SHOW RED If you stupid cyclists don't obey the law of the road DON'T COMPLAIN when you get cut up, this guy got what he deserved as do all you tax dodging law breakers

[Shocker9]

@krytag Are you sure you're posting to the correct video? He was clearly in the correct lane a long time before the bus cut him up. There was no cycle lane or traffic lights. I'm rather puzzled with your comment.

If your just moaning about some rules the minority break, lets talk about the dozen or so rules that you probably (with 99% certainty) break!

[Testedecazzo]

@krytag "YOU MUST USE A CYCLE LANE IF ONE IS PROVIDED" You don't have to use any cycle "facility" in the UK : )

[albiatl]

You want to hand this video to VOSA with details of time and place. That bus driver shouldnt be on the road, he will kill somone if he drives like that.And as for Fxxxt group.........................­....

[Andeezegirl]

Hope you reported them

[TheStefan188]

hope he really have seen you.if not,that's bad.give them school for teaching to watch more in mirrors,dead corner etc.

[MrFasttrack1]

I like cyclists who dont complain , I hate thoughs who do especialy 2 wheeled motorbikes they get on me nerves they should do what everyone else dose and get on with there days instead of complaining all the time

[leapoffaith20]

@MrFasttrack1 Yeh, well, I get angry when people try to kill me.

[Celebavari]

As a First Bus Driver looking at your clip I would agree with you that the bus clearly cuts you up. I always give room to cyclists but that's not to say that all cyclists are without their own faults - running red lights, overtaking on the near-side, deliberately making it difficult for buses to pull in to or pull out of bus-stops, or simply just dropping off the kerb straight into the path of buses. If I had the video footage I could show you many more horrors than the one you show.

[jbsoriginality]

@Mhayde rule number 400:... which is also how many cents are in a gallon of gas nowadays.He probably just enjoys a nice bike ride.

[fkmd]

Bloody Cyclists, always getting in the way. Don't pay road tax, yet think they own the place. Hope ya get run over next time.

[t1sutton]

@fkmd You've made yourself looking stupid. There is no road tax. It's gone ages ago. You're paying VED tax based on the CO2 emissions and fuel type. All of the normal tax payer are paying for the roads. He rides a bike, therefore he's paying £0 VED tax. Are you saying that electric cars who is paying £0 VED tax shouldn't be on the road too?

[1977fiero]

@t1sutton yeah good point ,going by the logic of fkmd that would mean those geewhiz cars arnt entitled to be on the road

[101heza]

@fkmd Its called VED tax now based on the amount of CO2 released by your vehicle and what fuel it uses.....a bicycle uses no fuel and emits no CO2 so they therefore do not need to pay VED Tax....and before you say they should help pay for the maintenance of the roads they do. Road maintenance is under the control of your local county council/authority and is payed for out of the Council Tax.

[battlestarone]

have stick up for first bus drivers here,there trained better than any other firm i know,most hold or will hold cpc and been through a smiths course,one bad apple,dont let it rot the barrel,however i see people on bike going through red lights every day,on pavments,maybe it time for bile usere to hold insurance and have to site a course before being allowed out on the highway,let see how many bike usere are killed every year where its there fault,and how many bus drivers were to blame,

[MrTorbayguy]

You need to get a life! The bus was miles away from you.

Bloody cyclists think they own the road, and they dont even pay a penny towards the up keep.

The only good cyclist, is the cyclist UNDER a bus.

[jayhelldee]

@MrTorbayguy when and if you have kids and they end up under a buss, i assume youll be still a happy chappy

[MrTorbayguy]

@jayhelldee Wont happen, because I have taught my kids how to use the roads properly, both walking and cycling.

[101heza]

@MrTorbayguy "they don't pay a penny towards the up keep"...um yes they do because road maintenance is carried out by the local authority and is paid for from Council Tax.....therefore every person helps pay for the up-keep including cyclists

[dingbatus2]

Bus drivers and taxi drivers in Leeds are on the very lowest rungs of human evolution ,although why anyone would wish to risk their life by biking in the town centre is beyond me. And I'd just like to point out, that the dumb cyclist who drove through a red light on Briggate/Boar Lane, deserved every bit of the pain he suffered when he was twatted into the railings by a pedestrian who was legally crossing the road on the traffic signals .Laptop 1 - plastic hat 0

[jayhelldee]

Simlar thing happend to me on my mountain bike. Because he couldnt drive over my head, he said i cut him up. i got in front of him and laid my bike in the middle of the road and jumped in the bus and told him what a kunto he was.

[MrTorbayguy]

@jayhelldee Id have punched you out mate if you came near my truck.

Cyclists are a bunch of tree hugging wankers.

[jayhelldee]

@MrTorbayguy Then youd be kissing goodbye to your truck and saying helloo to a spastic chair. Ehard fucktard

[MrTorbayguy]

@jayhelldee OMG what a surprise, a noisy tree hugger!

[MrTorbayguy]

@jayhelldee Id have punched you out mate if you came near my truck.

Cyclists are a bunch of tree hugging wankers.

[bikertom14]

Leedscyclist I love you! Keep it up and stay safe!

[MrJascol]

change your name to dick head cyclist, its you whats making them situations, dumbass

[ALANSWEETIES99]

Bus-driver wasn't wake up and stop look where we going. Is been bother with them!!!

[algothedon]

Bad move on the bus drivers part. Silly and dangerous, but pleas dont use sweeping generalistions against all bus drivers. You must get fed up of hearing all cyclists are this and that so dont do the same to bus drivers. As one myself i am very considerate to cyclists.

[earthfire1980]

oh man thats close....

touched a nerve with me, all to common in glasgow as well... think i will get a camera for when am out on my bike...

[robert16902008]

buses used to think they where the king of the road round my end until one got murdered for driving like this, now they all drive like grannies haha

[armours]

I appreciate your point, the bus should have alllowed you more space. Now I wish someone would tell car drivers that the Highway Code says they must allow buses to pull out of bus stops.

[whitbyjet65]

@armours Car drivers should let buses out, I agree, but bus drivers are bastards for setting off when a car is committed and along the bus's flanks. It was not indicating when you went to pass & the twat of a driver decides to pull out AFTER you've started overtaking.

[stevenmcg69]

yep i,ll give u that was kinda bad but how many times do u drive right passed red lights mount the kerb and get in bus and car drivers way?. if i was to take my car and drive like ppl on bikes i would get done for joyrideing

[andygoodyear]

@stevenmcg69 here here

[looneyzoo]

The driving standards in west yorkshire generally are shit, but leeds is particularly shocking. I drive for First Leeds, and thankfully was not trained by them as the training is lacking. First do not have any professionalism at all, they do not provide a good service, they show no courtesy on the roads at all and I am not proud to work for them. my advice boycott us and force them to listen, I personally hope they go bust!

[23Atlantean]

I dont need to watch the video again, I have formed my opinion, and I dont accept what you are stating, you shouldn't be even allowed topush a supermarket trolley around Asda, let alone be on the roads.

[23Atlantean]

So it looks like you know as much about me, as you do about been a competent cyclist, Not a lot.

Arseholes are like opinions, and I everyone has one.

Lets face it, you must have a very sad life, ride around with a camera strapped to you.

[23Atlantean]

What I do for a living has Jack Shit to do with you, you are danger to other road users,just deal with it, they are from my own observations, and I have nothing to do with this incident.

[leedscyclist]

@23Atlantean Wow - touched a nerve there! You are a bus driver and I claim my five pounds. Watch the video again; watch the position of the bus; watch my position. Then promise us all never to drive a large vehicle ever again with people in it.

[katherine3486]

@leedscyclist The bus will have cctv too. Did you contact First to report it?

[katherine3486]

@leedscyclist LeedsCyclist; Do you have a road licence or insurance or pay road tax? If you knocked someone down what would happen to you - would you loose your job? If you rode illegally (on pavements, across zebra crossings when lights are red, or through many red lights - as many cyclists do) would you go to court? Do you have mirrors to check behind you @junctions like this one? Were U indictaing 2turn left onto the Headrow &if not why didn't you put out your right arm to say keeping on?

[Artwa7mm]

@23Atlantean Were you the driver? lol... I back leedscyclist on this all the way.. My dads a London bus diver and has been for 33 years.. Not once has he had a collision with another road user.. that's because he's careful and doesn't rush.. no matter how of schedule he is!

[23Atlantean]

Look at the position you are before you approached the roundabout, not near the kerb, the highway code states that you indicate when leaving a roundabout that you signal to do this, when the bus passes you it has left and has no reason to have its indicator on.

You as are normal cyclists that use public roads are a clown, with no road sense, you must have serious problems socially to post it on here.

[leedscyclist]

@23Atlantean You have shown that you know nothing about road positioning. Every organisation from the police to the CTC to the Institute of Advanced Motorists advocates cycling around a metre from the kerb for increased visibility and safety.

Also, if you look at around 10 seconds in, you'll see that I'm in a lane that is for left turn or straight on and the bus is in a lane for straight on only, yet it turns left. Who's is in the wrong there? Are you a bus driver?

[DeadRiser1]

@leedscyclist And I learnt this the hard way :/

I was too close to the kerb, clipped it, and ended up with a concussion, hahahaha.

Not fun.

[Shocker9]

@leedscyclist They also recommend this to ensure stupid drivers don't try and squeeze past and push you in to the drains.

[TridentTrucking]

@leedscyclist when your driving a HGV or PSV its not always possible to use designated lanes sometimes you need the other side of the road to make a turn, however i will say this is very poor judgement by the bus driver

[MrJascol]

@23Atlantean i know, the way he rides a bike you would think it was him driving the bus, he doesn't even ride is bike safely for not only his sake but for other road users,on all his videos you can clearly see that he rides almost in the middle of the road.. hes bloody losers.

[bikerskierboarrder]

@23Atlantean you must have serious mental problems to not be able to see what the bus driver did wrong here. The driver should have waited to over take AFTER going completely through the turn. Cyclists are supposed to stay 1 meter away from the curb, for safety. Try picking up a book on road safety and try riding you cycle on the roads, then maybe you'll understand our position. You could easily kill us.

[2wheelsteve]

@23Atlantean Mate you did that to him knowing he couldnt catch you while I know you wouldnt do it to me when Im riding because I would catch you and Im not a whimp, the driving of this bus is shit selfish and extremly dangerous but because your not in any danger you dont give a fuck.

Children ride bikes on the road not having driving experience and you are the kind of twat that kills them.

Your on thin ice mate either your gonna kill someone or someone is gonna drag you out your cab

[stealth1692]

@23Atlantean lol is that you driving the bus

[growingvegetable]

Hmm - should have added. First Leeds customer service DO take cyclist complaints seriously.

Problem is that some of their drivers know perfectly well they can scare the .... out of a cyclist, and be off long before the cyclist can get their number.

[growingvegetable]

No, not whining; just pointing out a simple fact of life cycling in Leeds.

Arriva, Coastliner, Harrogate & District, or Keighley and District bus drivers are CONSISTENTLY courteous and careful of cyclists. A public thank you, from this cyclist to those companies and their drivers.

However, First Leeds doesn't maintain anything like the same high standards of professionalism and training. Some (not all) of their drivers are dangerous, aggressive, ....... cowboys.

[merlinbus]

Another whineing cyclist.

[1qaz0pllm]

Maybe try pedaling your electric bike ;)

[HLaB75]

Terrible driving.

Edinburgh is pretty lucky at the moment, most services are run by Lothian Buses who seem very vulnerable road user aware. There's also a small number of First service and whilst the minority are terrible on the whole they're not too bad.

[TheMightyAntar]

Clearly an inconsiderate driver who on this occasion showed little concern for a fellow road user. I'd write to the bus company and point out his lack of road sense. I'd also cycle a bit further out from the kerb. My experience is that while vehicle drivers will happily ignore the fact that they're squashing cyclists, they make damm sure they're not going to hit anything on their right.

[matty123429]

thats bad he should have knocked you off

[Jonster123]

Was on the bus the other day when a bus driver cut a cyclist up from turning. What did he do? Caught up with the bus and continuously banged the side of the bus with his lock haha.

[leedscboy]

THATS DISGUSTING!

[grinder223]

your probably one of those "cyclists" who sit in the middle of the road, holding everyone up, because you have the right to be there, roads are for all vehicles, I have seen on countless occasions cyclists unaware of red lights and in general the highway code, so get off your bloody bike and get the bus.

[jordanjdm]

@grinder223 Oh Im in a car, its faster, therefore i have more rights. Knob'ed

[grinder223]

aye thats what yer wife said

[fireamusmus]

if you were cycling round a corner and i had a bus to get round aswell i'd have done the same. cyclist are a bunch of pains in the fucking arses, it's bad enough coming across one in a car. must be 10 times worse in a bus.

[lsmike]

That's because you're probably a poor driver. Follow the highway code, and you won't have any problems with buses or cyclists.

[lsmike]

...yeah sure, you haven't got the cojones, although your comment rather proves my point.

[fireamusmus]

i just don't like self righteous cyclists

[lsmike]

I think that's your guilt complex.

[undocumentedspot]

ironically the bus says: "thinking of starting a business?" the answer probably : "think not, it is the beginning of your last day " .lol

[cleanupjapan]

These days, many drivers cannot think for anyone around them. What happen if his family is on the bike. Still doing same thing?

I am sure that they will slow down or maybe even wait for the bike. It's too late if you hit the bike or kill somebody. I don't understand why many drivers cannot understand. Yeah, many people think that "it does not happen to me".

[DelBoy170190]

From the camera angle, there is no evidence to suggest you were squashed against the railings or had too little space. In addition to this, I would question your motivation for filming your journeys, what are you trying to achieve? Does it not distract you/make it more difficult to cycle with a camera on your head? And yes, I'm a bus driver, but also a car driver, moped rider and cyclist; I just don't like stereotypes.

[leedscyclist]

Have a look again at the width of the road. I was indicating left and the bus driver turned in with me; there was no room for error if I had moved to the right or wobbled/fallen due to the usually poor surface of roads in Leeds. The camera makes no difference to how I cycle as it's on the side of my helmet. I'm a cyclist, driver, pedestrian too. I try not to stereotype but FirstBus in Leeds do not include cycle awareness; I have offered to take their drivers on a cycle ride through Leeds.

[fnslr308]

I love you

I cycle, I drive, I pedestrian

[fireamusmus]

why should they?, you dont own the flaming road. why don't cyclists get tought 'motor vehicle' awareness.

[downfader2]

I would say regardless of whether you think LC had space, etc, the Highway code does say not to overtake near or through junctions (the RAB being a junction afterall).

You could also argue why not film, when many people dont beleive you until you show them the videos. Motivation is often to campaign and educate, and for insurance purposes, rarely anything else.

[lsmike]

Oh come on, that was a terrible overtake!!

And I'm far from biased against bus drivers, I think on the whole they are far better than the average shown by car drivers. Enough that I've taken a letter of thanks and choco to several local bus garages on my route, they certainly earnt the compliment through their driving. Mind, they were rather flabbergasted.

[specialk1963]

thats the way too do it. next time he mite hit you lol

[MrOllie1983]

I think its unfair to say "classic" First bus driver. would this video be on here if it was a car had made this dangerous move?

[fireamusmus]

no coz cyclists are never wrong... they don't hurt the enviroment, they don't cause accidents, they don't have any training... and thier kids are picked on at school... so theyre aaaaallllll good :-)

[leedscyclist]

You really shouldn't say things like that when people can find out who you are and who you work for. Ten minutes of Googling and I feel I know you! Hope your interview with HR next week goes OK.

[fireamusmus]

go hug a tree you stupid fucker, get a life. when was the last time you left your keyboard?

[liam4vids]

If you can get the date and time this happened, First can backdate their drivers and the driver can be suspended and possibly forced to retake his test. That is well pout of order. You could have been killed. Optare Solo's (which is what the bus is) are small and easy to maneuvor (however you spell it) so he/she has no excuse.

[23Atlantean]

@liam4vids

What a penis, you are, you are talking claptrap

[leedscyclist]

@23Atlantean c

[tonka100200]

have a look at rule 212

[VolvoFH12580]

223 denotes must give way to busses pulling away from bus stops no bus stops in this clip.

[drovers5]

you stupid twat for filming while you are riding.should have ran you over.

[Long23]

Well, there's no audio so at least he wasn't balancing a sound man and all his equipment on the pillion too...

...or maybe he had a small camera on his helmet like so many of us do, so when a car hits us we can sue the shit out of you rather than have the police respond "well, there were no witnesses so it is your word against theirs." They cost a few quid, and they're worth the investment.

[drovers5]

do ya use it to fine yourself when you cyclist go through red lights and on paths and wrong way down one way streets shall i go on.................

[Long23]

Yes, I do, but I always let myself off on appeal because I produce the video evidence that shows I was actually stopped at the red light. Then I beat myself up in the cells before I get released, and then there's a dinosaur, and some surfing lap-dancers, and then I wake up.

It isn't a rule that cyclists ride like twats, just like it isn't a rule that all car drivers are incompetent (if you drive, I'm sure you've sworn at as many bad drivers as bad cyclists).

One of the crashes I had...

[Long23]

...on my bike was while I was waiting nicely at a red light - some tosser on a bike had decided to jump the light by squeezing between me and the cars at high speed. Shame I picked that moment to roll my bike six inches further from the pavement - his handle bars hit mine and as he was going full speed, he came off very nastily. The twat lay there bleeding as I rode off and my only helpful comment was "serves you right dickhead". A bad road user is a bad road user, bike, car or pedestrian.

[fireamusmus]

you've got a point sure wouldn't wanna get sued... better make sure you're dead :-)

[goodjob1983]

Basicaly the road is for AUTOMOBILES that have paid registration and cyclists cause accidents by not using common sense. I rekon cyclists have a death wish sometimes.

[leedscyclist]

Have a look at how vehicles are charged these days. Road Tax was abolished in 1936 (that's the year not the time). Vehicle Excise Duty is now based on emissions and my bike has zero emissions (except the day after a Guinness and curry session).

[fireamusmus]

haaaa your as funny as a bent wing mirror

[finbat]

In the UK cyclist have a right to use a road (as do pedestrians, horses and horse drawn carriages). You can only drive a vehicle on a road if you have a licence. What "common sense" was leedscyclist not using?

[atari111]

Al I wonder is how your recording that while riding your bike????

[MikeHuntagape]

yeah your right the bus driver should have stayed in the bus station until you had passed through headrow.

how could he have changed lanes for you when there was just one lane.

moaning twat

[BLAKEYBBLAKEY]

Bus drivers often do this sort of thing.

Pulling out from the bus stop before the car passes is a common one.

LORRY DRIVER'S ARE THE WORST!

Only the other day we saw a 40 tonne sugar-beet laden truck pull out of a junction near our house ON HIS MOBILE!!! He wasn't paying any attention and i shuddered to think what he could do to a person or a whole family if he was to hit them.I didn't have time to get his number.If that guy saw you then why did he narrowly miss crushing you to death!?

MMM?

[mattym1992]

The bus driver knows how to drive, there is no need to complain that's what wing mirrors are for. He would of hit you if you would of swerved but surely your not that dumb, If he would of hit you or your bike then you should be bothered plus you are being illegal filming it because it is a distraction.

[wilki31]

And just how many red lights do you cyclists run? I work in the building opposite Greggs on Eastgate and the number of near misses I have had with cyclists ignoring reds on the pedestrian crossings between there and the main shopping areas beggars belief. Are you all colour blind or just plain ignorant?

[leedscyclist]

Two years of commuting by bicycle into Leeds: Red lights run = 0; pavements cycled on = 0; cars I see illegally driving over the Headrow = at least 8 every evening (and that's in the few minutes I'm there).

[wilki31]

Good for you, can you teach the majority please! Re cars, completley agree, there was a bloke sat in his car next to my bus stop, on his phone, on Eastgate causing chaos. Bus drivers should be allowed a free scrape on these guys!

[leedscyclist]

It would be a real shame if you accidently took off his wing mirror!

[fatfellaonabike]

Terrible driving.

But more worrying are some of these idiotic responses. There really are some down right ignorant folk out there.

[leedscyclist]

Halwitt? What is a halwitt? Surely only a halfwit spells halfwit halwitt?

[mrgirder]

It's incredible that anyone posting comments on this video thinks that the cyclist is in the wrong.

[fireamusmus]

i don't but it's good fun winding them up ;-)

[6xxxabzxxx6]

My dad is a cyclist up stanningley road in leeds, hes saving money, not getting into debt with a car, not polluting and keep[ing fit, yet hes not alowed to go on the pavement when there are cars parked ALL up stanningley road because he might hit a pedestrian. he has almost been hit by double decker buses and lorries. its so irritating.

[melfiire]

how od u know he indercate u dumb fuck u was lookign in front of u dick head

[melfiire]

i rushed my last comment so dont start pulling down how its wrote

[leedscyclist]

@melfiire c

[melfiire]

exscumse me who told you that illegal are you a police officer? look how can it be more of a danger riding on the path then it is on the road a cyclist dont weigh more then 12 stone a car wieghs 2 tone bus,s around 12 tone wot more of a danger getting hit by a person or getting hit by a bus you answer that riding on a path is not anymore dangerous then a granny scooter and granny scooter wighs alot more then a bike thums me down but ti shows how small your brain is and how easy it is!

[gadgetmind]

I know it's illegal because I'm capable of reading The Highway Code. This document is required reading for motor-vehicle users in the UK and forms parts of the driving test.

Section 64

You MUST NOT cycle on a pavement.

[Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & R(S)A 1984, sect 129]

And there have been numerous studies on the relative dangers of cycling on the road versus off-road cycle paths, and the latter are more dangerous. Yes, this seems counter-intuitive, but it's also true.

[melfiire]

please just do your self a favour and keep off the road why complain ride on the path

[gadgetmind]

You do realise that you're recommending that someone do something that's actually illegal, don't you? It's also slow, dangerous (yes, more dangerous than riding on the road) and inconvenient for all concerned.

[jammiebeasts]

Moan moan moan thats all you hear, people only notice what happens to them and dont notice what they do to other people. Some people need to get out more. Also Rule 163 only applies if there is room to make such a move, thanks to council planners everything made tight and narrow, these 'perfect world' rules are just not possible anymore.

[gadgetmind]

Eh? Where do you get the bit about rule 163 not applying on a narrow road? The Highway Code says no such thing - read it!

If it isn't safe to pass THEN DON'T PASS! Shaving a few seconds off your trip is not worth endagering the life of another road user.

[tcbook]

I was on that bus!!! I took a picture of the driver for you; he was on his break... tcbook

[gadgetmind]

Wow, he was *very* close - even if you were touching the kerb he would have been within a foot of you. He definitely needs to improve his driving before he kills someone, and sadly I doubt this will happen unless the Police or the bus company have a word with him.

All the driver need to do was hang back for a few seconds until it was safe to pass. Very bad driving and totally unacceptable IMO.

[crazybella11]

there is no way that bus could have been as close as it seems, looking at the size of tht junction and the buses position passiing the cyclist im thinking that 12" is quite the exageration, Yes it was a close overtake but by no means was it as close as is made out

[leedscyclist]

So:

Was he in the correct lane? No.

Did he indicate? No.

Did he give the recommended space when overtaking? No.

Have a look at 0.15 on the vid and you'll see his front wheels are almost touching the double yellows. Was it 12", or 15", or just a mere 18" - that's still too damn close when you're on a bike.

[cafecremelad]

its ok saying bus drivers dont drive with care, ive seen loads of cyclists who do not obey the laws of the road such as going through red lights, not singalling passing cars too close, thinking they dont have to stop at give way lines to junctions

you get both good and bad bus drivers and cyclists - i dont see what use posting vids like this does... maybe someone shud post some of bad cyclists too to give a fair side for both

[knoweffecks]

True...and there is loads of vid's of poor cycling...filmed by none other than cyclists themselves...we get annoyed with stupid cyclists as well as stupid drivers...Posting vids like this helps to shame people, cyclists and drivers alike.

[nethalus]

Oh do they have to. Too many sodding cars on the road as there is. Cars cause traffic jams if there were less of them on the road, less jams.

[leedscyclist]

Getting an "arsehole" driver off the road does not mean another 30 cars - it means the bus company can give his job to a good driver.

As for the bus not being close, I think most people would agree that 12" is too close.

[nethalus]

Seeing as they are mega short at the depot that bus comes from I seriously doubt that will happen!

[magnatom]

Hmm. I seem to be getting lots of thumbs downs recently. I wonder if that's from bloodbus bus drivers. Bit sad if it is.

So if any bus drivers see this, would you agree that this driving was dangerous?

[nethalus]

Bloodbus forum has gorn!