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The differences between the technik of Joo and some legends like Ting Song is to big for comparison. How can you even compare a modern chopper like Joo to any old-fashioned Chinese chopper?
don't listen to these guys, its easy to conclude that defenders will never win anything after watching this video...but people forget that speed glue has been used against defenders until recently. It is not so easy to smack away at Joo's under spin chops anymore, which gives defenders a fighting chance!
btw, mr tyoungos, if you played with Joo you probably wouldn't be able to get the ball over the net. Joo's backspin chops are extremely heavy and pressures their opponents to push and lift, which he then counter drives to take the point
Joo's "modern" chopper style is nothing new, young man! He's just a Korean re-invention of the famous Chinese chopper Ting Song in 1990's. Like Joo, Ting Song beat some of the world's top players of his time including Jan-Ove Waldner & Jörgen Persson, and yet didn't win any gold medal from any event in WTTC. After 4 decades of international TT experience, the Chinese realize that a defensive chopper style of any kind simply doesn't work a fool's game. No more chopper to present China!
in case you don't know what "modern" defensive play means, it means that the defensive player attacks just as well as any other offensive player, only difference is he uses heavy underspin balls to set up his drives. Ding Song was Joo's idol, but he was a CLASSIC defender, he would only attack loose balls and chop all the way. Joo attacks ANY pushes that his opponents makes, thats why his opponents have no choice but to continue looping at him until they are forced to push again
btw, you say China realize def style doesnt work a fool's game...thats y there are no more choppers to represent China?
Dude...like i said, you dont know CRAP about table tennis. WHY are there less defenders now? its not because the style doesn't work, its just harder and takes longer to develop. pros take HOURS n hours every day developing offensive skills....now plus defensive world class skills on top of offensive training...foot work, low chops, floats...kids can't learn def too early too
Defensive table tennis is a fool's game. It may make you look unusual, but it is not practical. Sun Tzu's The Art of War says, "Frequent defense leads one to a loss..... When you defend everywhere, you are weak everywhere..... The best defense is offense."
take your art of war theory to a real war zone...Joo se hyuk is a modern defender, This match was a long time ago. Joo beat ma lin a good number of times and just recently beat world no 2 Ma long in the China vs world Tournament. So don't talk crap and say defensive table tennis is a fools game
the goal is to get the opponent to hit a bad shot, or miss the ball. you can do that either with strong, fast topspin or with slow, very spinny backspin. don't think of it in terms of "attack" or "defense".
yeah i love his style of play and i agree but he needs to produce some top spins at least...you can't be defensive all the time because the game is changing and players are developing new skills quickly just my opinion :)
well, not true...you always have a chance to attack and some instances in the video you can see he doesn't attach when he can...point is he needs to learn to attack some returns :)
@stevema2 Joo Se Hyuk actually has a very respectable topspin loop attack and he uses it at times. You see him use it a lot more against only slightly weaker players than Wang Liqin. Look for him playing Samsonov, for example. But he uses it now and then even against the likes of Ma Long.
hmmm.... you sure about that. You might wanna do some research. Joo Se Hyuk already defeated the TOP Chinese players including Ma Lin, Wang Hao & Ma Long. Joo is Ma Lins nightmare.
Well, he's facing a higher ranking guy, but hasnt beat him, no. It'll happen though, Joo keeps going up in ranks steadily, his all around game improves and he's learned to bait people more.
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MrGimli2 10 months ago
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Compantino 1 year ago
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The differences between the technik of Joo and some legends like Ting Song is to big for comparison. How can you even compare a modern chopper like Joo to any old-fashioned Chinese chopper?
Compantino 1 year ago
don't listen to these guys, its easy to conclude that defenders will never win anything after watching this video...but people forget that speed glue has been used against defenders until recently. It is not so easy to smack away at Joo's under spin chops anymore, which gives defenders a fighting chance!
chimstership 1 year ago
Joo back-spins are nothing because wang's forehand is too strong.
cooiyoung 1 year ago
This fuckn china spin table tennis. Defense is the best!
DeutscheBankAkte 1 year ago
dude in black wasnt trying to hard
YEKEHTSIOJOMRUOY024 2 years ago
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FU you guys that talk shit about JOO SE HYUK
He is the best. def pwnes...
Matrixponnoob 2 years ago
im not a big fan of defensive players
but anybody who says being defensive is a waste of time, ur defo wrong
joo is a very gd player defensive or offensive
tabletennisperson 2 years ago
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btw, mr tyoungos, if you played with Joo you probably wouldn't be able to get the ball over the net. Joo's backspin chops are extremely heavy and pressures their opponents to push and lift, which he then counter drives to take the point
chimstership 2 years ago
Joo's "modern" chopper style is nothing new, young man! He's just a Korean re-invention of the famous Chinese chopper Ting Song in 1990's. Like Joo, Ting Song beat some of the world's top players of his time including Jan-Ove Waldner & Jörgen Persson, and yet didn't win any gold medal from any event in WTTC. After 4 decades of international TT experience, the Chinese realize that a defensive chopper style of any kind simply doesn't work a fool's game. No more chopper to present China!
tyoungos 2 years ago 18
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in case you don't know what "modern" defensive play means, it means that the defensive player attacks just as well as any other offensive player, only difference is he uses heavy underspin balls to set up his drives. Ding Song was Joo's idol, but he was a CLASSIC defender, he would only attack loose balls and chop all the way. Joo attacks ANY pushes that his opponents makes, thats why his opponents have no choice but to continue looping at him until they are forced to push again
chimstership 2 years ago
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btw, you say China realize def style doesnt work a fool's game...thats y there are no more choppers to represent China?
Dude...like i said, you dont know CRAP about table tennis. WHY are there less defenders now? its not because the style doesn't work, its just harder and takes longer to develop. pros take HOURS n hours every day developing offensive skills....now plus defensive world class skills on top of offensive training...foot work, low chops, floats...kids can't learn def too early too
chimstership 2 years ago
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Compantino 1 year ago
Defensive table tennis is a fool's game. It may make you look unusual, but it is not practical. Sun Tzu's The Art of War says, "Frequent defense leads one to a loss..... When you defend everywhere, you are weak everywhere..... The best defense is offense."
tyoungos 2 years ago 23
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dude...you know NOTHING about table tennis.
take your art of war theory to a real war zone...Joo se hyuk is a modern defender, This match was a long time ago. Joo beat ma lin a good number of times and just recently beat world no 2 Ma long in the China vs world Tournament. So don't talk crap and say defensive table tennis is a fools game
chimstership 2 years ago
@tyoungos Ahem, dude. Guy's ranked in the top ten in the world...
cukka99 10 months ago
why does this guy always defend? did he never learn how to attack the ball? this is weird :)
stevema2 2 years ago
the goal is to get the opponent to hit a bad shot, or miss the ball. you can do that either with strong, fast topspin or with slow, very spinny backspin. don't think of it in terms of "attack" or "defense".
gsofficial 2 years ago
yeah i love his style of play and i agree but he needs to produce some top spins at least...you can't be defensive all the time because the game is changing and players are developing new skills quickly just my opinion :)
stevema2 2 years ago 10
Because Joo Se Hyuk is playing against Wang Liqin, he doesn't have much chance to attack!
LegIsLate 2 years ago
well, not true...you always have a chance to attack and some instances in the video you can see he doesn't attach when he can...point is he needs to learn to attack some returns :)
stevema2 2 years ago 29
@stevema2 Joo Se Hyuk actually has a very respectable topspin loop attack and he uses it at times. You see him use it a lot more against only slightly weaker players than Wang Liqin. Look for him playing Samsonov, for example. But he uses it now and then even against the likes of Ma Long.
cukka99 10 months ago
if 1 wrong move of lob, de ball will spin downwards
kelvin1303 2 years ago
Joo Se Hyuk is the best,
Joo Se Hyuk es el mejor jugador del mundo.
tomaaimbesil 2 years ago
lol you just watched him get utterly destroyed and yet you're saying he's the best? lol wang liqin > hyuk thanks!
quick41 2 years ago 4
Wang Liqin has the best forehand.
LegIsLate 3 years ago 8
Wang Liqin has way too much fun with playing choppers.
gsofficial 2 years ago 4
Joo se Hyuk is Good but he does not stand a chance against those best chinese players.
bjazzechan 3 years ago
hmmm.... you sure about that. You might wanna do some research. Joo Se Hyuk already defeated the TOP Chinese players including Ma Lin, Wang Hao & Ma Long. Joo is Ma Lins nightmare.
quickzilver333 3 years ago 4
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ACBmutie 2 years ago
And recently Hyuk beat Wang Liqin too
ACBmutie 2 years ago
Are you serious? Wang Liqin IS one of those best chinese players. Again, he defeated Ma Lin at the WTTC 2009. (Chen Qi as well)
taufoofar 2 years ago 2
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korea sucks
chinajapanboyz0129 3 years ago
i wonder whos the next wang ligin for the chinese team...i dont thing wang hao has the potential to be the next wang...lets see who...
manunited36 3 years ago
ma long without a doubt, or maaaaaaaybe chen qi but i wouldn't count on that.
NexxtGen 3 years ago 2
i watched this match on dvd in wang liqin just pissed on joo like he was nothing, wang is way too gd for choppers
paddyakasoldier 3 years ago
ese joo se hyuk corta demasiado duro pero wang liqin no le como a eso...!
solodechecho 3 years ago
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does anyone here knows the thickness of feint long 3 joo uses?
torpengchikbuoy2 3 years ago
It annoys the crap out of me that Joo loses every damn time he meet Wang!
KillingMesh 3 years ago
Well, Wang is a much better player so it's to be expected.
MJGriftz 3 years ago
Well, he's facing a higher ranking guy, but hasnt beat him, no. It'll happen though, Joo keeps going up in ranks steadily, his all around game improves and he's learned to bait people more.
Opalance 3 years ago
It's the worst match-up someone who can consistently smash him off the table wang doesn't care for chopping or pimples just KILL!
daz45 3 years ago 2
Wang Liqin makes playing against those nasty pimples look so easy...
Oirik 3 years ago
wow this match is probaly very good
ttttt242 3 years ago
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KOVACProduct 3 years ago
wang liqin's forehand is becoming better and better ...
Ahuri974 3 years ago 2
I dunno.. if you look at his match against Andrei Filimon, its the contrary. His forehand has lost its oomph.. maybe he's getting old? :)
iGookie 3 years ago 2
Wang Liqin IS getting old. But he's still the greatest player since Waldner. He's the chinese version of him.
taufoofar 3 years ago 4
liqin absolutely dominated joo
U2B8 3 years ago 4
joo got pawned
MDSguy 3 years ago
Yes he did. :-)
cmetsbeltran15 3 years ago