Ven. Dhammavuddho 29 - More criticisms of the Mahayana

[cittamagga]

Mahayana is not Buddha's teaching but the Bodhisatta's teaching. Mahayana sutta can't be called sutta, just creative story such as Vimalakirti.

[88nsb]

I am a buddhist but never fight over Mahayana or Therava traditions. In both traditions, I only follow the Buddha's advice:"Do good, avoid evil and keep the mind pure." We should not condemn Mahayana or Theravada because of other's criticism. I enjoyed attending services in both traditions and have no problem lsitening to chantings and dharma talks from monks of both traditions because all are equally enlightening.

[deathlupa]

To don the monk's robes and insult the buddha's teachings? For he other than a buddha has no rights to deem which sutra is authentic. Anyone has proof mahayana sutras are not authentic? Please. Themorningcoffee is right, the buddha taught many dharma doors to suit people of different capacities. If mahayana is not right for you, please keep it to yourself. You donning the monk's robes and speaking with such ignorance in public can only cause people to disregard the teachings.

[alovelytime]

this man knows nothing.

approve this comment if you know buddhism.

why do you fear and censor?

because you know nothing, thats why.

[davevontexas]

I'm immensely grateful that this guy would hand down his oral tradition to a random internet chump like me.

I'm honored.

[ruzickaw]

1. Why all this useless discussion?

All the Mahayana Sutras are later inventions and have little to do with the original teaching of Buddha. And even most of the sutras in the Pali canon were made up by sometimes narrow minded monks.

2. In a society like the Hindu where only men were allowed to read the holy scritures, obviously it was unthinkable that a woman could become a Buddha.

Not because of menstruation, but because women were held in ignorance.

[dorianleakey]

The point is that the Mahayana in this Sutra critiscizes Theravada, so to say he is showing ignorance, and being sectarian, by pointing out Mahayana criticisms of Theravada is not fair. Of course who ever named this clip is the guilty party here. If it was called discussing Mahayana, few would have got upset.

I am a Mahayanist by the way.

[shanghaimanify]

@dorianleakey Actually the Vimalakirti Sutra comes from the far east of India, while Theravada was basically in southwest India. Totally different parts of India. Theravada was just one of 18 sects in India. The Vimalakirti comes from a totally different sect, and there was no interaction between these two. The difference here is between sravaka practitioners and bodhisattva practitioners. He is indeed showing ignorance because he has not even understood the point of the story he is telling.

[jmlee369]

What the sutras say is that a woman cannot be a samyaksam buddha i.e a Buddha that establishes the dharma where there was no dharma before. The reason for this I think it because the beings of such a dharmaless age would live in a society where a female would not be much respected.

[chewydavis]

maybe i heard him wrong, but at the end of the discussion didn't he say that according to theravada tradition and suttas, a female cannot become a buddha but only an arahant? If so that seems quite rediculous because that would imply that gender is static throughout transmigrating births.

[Paxcounate]

No it just means that in a female incarnation one cannot become a Buddha. Siddartha Gotama may well have been a women in the life preceeding the one we know of but due to the physical problems so often associated with a womens body, i.e. menstration e.t.c. it would not be appropriate for a Buddha to be in female form.

Essentially we are neither male nor female... hope this was of benefit...

[yadsik]

It is also because people do not respect women, so it is nothing wrong with women, it is wrong with the perception of society. In a Matriarchal society, only women would be Buddhas.

[MrGunwitch]

@chewydavis Its in the suttas. Educate yourself before you speak.

[BarbarraBay]

@MrGunwitch the reflection by chewydavis was valid. there was no need to cesnure them because they do not have blind faith in the suttas. MN 115 does explain a female cannot be a Sammasambuddha, which means becoming Buddha without a teacher & then starting the Buddhist religion in the world. But a female can certainly become an arahant (fully enlightened being). This is a subtle distinction, Chewydavis' questioning was valid and there was no need to censure them.

[TheMorningCoffee]

Notice how anyone who has defended mahayana on this comment board is severely downrated. It is such a shame that so many Theravadians are so judgemental and ignorant and they fail to see that the core truths in both Mahayana and the Theravada traditions are one and the same but just have different specifics.

[tsheringwangdi1974]

i definately know that buddha never preached on criticing others. what do u get of criticing mahayana religion? that was not expected from a venerable monk like u! we should all live in harmony and the main concept of mahayana is the working of the mind. prayers , dieties, prayer flags etc are all secondary.

[mu1707]

After having practice mahayana via zen meditation for several years and switching to theravada I´m very glad to find this clear analyse. Modern values often seems to contradict with the old Theravada e.g. the role of women. For me, having studied psychoanalysis espacialy narzissm in psychoanlytic schools at the same time practicing mahayana, I had to realise, that mahayana loses important aspects of buddhas teaching. You are coming alone.

[ystar]

Neither tradition is infallible in word. Despite what conflicting scriptures say, the most basic of teachings make clear that Buddha in his enlightened and impartial wisdom would never have considered women unable to attain enlightenment and Buddhahood. This is important to remember when we come across pronouncements that are revealed to be false under the light of skepticism - we must be a light unto ourselves.

[netelsg]

I'm from Mahayana Pureland buddhism (reciting Amitabha Buddha's Name) and I'm now enlightened. Mahayana Buddhism is true teachings of the Buddha too. You have not practice Mahayana hard enough to realise your buddha nature.

I verify Mahayana sutras to be true.

[badkamma]

sadhu sadhu sadhu

[Chichiri520]

Have you no life then to make videos critizing the Mahayana? Go practice Dhamma/Dharma instead. The Mahayana has worked for tons of sincere practicioners through the ages just like Theravada. May you find peace and be free from ignorance.

[Paxcounate]

No it just means that in a female incarnation one cannot become a Buddha. Siddartha Gotama may well have been a women in the life preceeding the one we know of but due to the physical problems so often associated with a womens body, i.e. menstration e.t.c. it would not be appropriate for a Buddha to be in female form. Essentially we are neither male nor female... hope this was of benefit...