Yet another example of cops making laws up to suit there own whims. What the cop said about audio recording in public is ABSOLUTELY FALSE. As long as the person recording the audio is part of the conversation, he does NOT have to have the permission of the other individuals to record video or audio in public. The Supreme Court has also affirmed this and stated ruled that public audio and video recording is NOT a violation of wiretapping laws because it's not wiretapping! Imagine that...
rofl you can take your procedure and shove it up your pig ass bitch i do what i want and guess what if somebody want to give you a minature bible they have that right jehova witnesses do it but oh no everybody wants to pin the christians fuck you all and davidd 320 you are one of the biggest bitches ive ever heard.
I'am for First Admendment rights, but I agree with the police officers on this one. Bible thumpers should not have the right to force their beliefs on you no matter if they do it on public or private property. It should be illegal for them to do that. Freedom of Religion should mean that you have the right to practice the beliefs you want to practice not the ones some streetside or door to door preacher wants you to practice. It's about time a cop brings these fools down a peg or two.
I don't think this guy is very articulate, and you've got no fundamental right to use a bullhorn, but passing out tracts, even if the school has a rule, it's not right, contrary to 1st amendment.
How many times do they have to tell you dumb ass, you can't do that kind of stuff on campus without permission. You are disturbing other students, and also making a fool of yourself. Those police officers should have taken you into custody and beat the crap out of you for just being stupid. You don't understand English.
Being a publicly funded university does not make the campus public property. It's a private institute which is open to the public (students). I'm sure Penn State has it has it's own set of rules. If you want to pass out religious crap, first, learn how to speak English clearly. Second, peddle your "religion" elsewhere, or just dump it into the trash can. Typical "Occupy" scum.
All universities have rules while on their campus. I know Michigan does. While a public university they have rules for where you can exorcize "free speech" on campus. You can be banned from University grounds. This is a dumb video and obviously the people filming don't know the rules and laws regarding this.
Wire tapping laws only apply to what can be reasonably considered "private" conversations. Conversations held in public, where anyone can over hear what is being said, are not protected by these wire tapping laws. The Supreme Court has already ruled on this. Audio and Video recording, in areas freely accessible to the public, is a right protected under the 1st amendment.
These campus officers are correct. The school can set rules to be followed within their area of responsibility and if you do not abide by those rules then you can be kicked out. And if you don't leave when asked, then you can be charged with trespassing. It's just like you can't go into a government building and do whatever you want, even though it's technically public property.
@stoshd well the guy recording is still obnoxious and unnecessary. And the other officer in the video... the supervisor, also said that it is a Pennsylvania law...
That said; Title 18, Part II, Article F, Chapter 57, Subchapter A, "you may be able to record in-person conversations occurring in a public place without consent. However, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any conversation that common sense tells you is private."
It's only freedom of the press if you're in fact a member of the press. You identify yourself as "preaching" and state that you're distributing religious tracts. You're not a credentialed member of the press. Sorry~ you're in fact in the wrong. They recieved a noise compliant. You're disturbing the peace on private property and closing on obscructing a police officer which could be considered disorderly conduct.
in the video, the officer says "that's without my consent... you're in violation of wiretap act: you're not allowed to record people's voices without their consent." he needs to be arrested. he is obnoxious, annoying, and uploaded this while still in full knowledge of the fact that the officer did not consent to it. that is way worse than accidentally recording an undercover officer who suddenly screeched his car in front of you.
I am a Christian and Im all for the Gospel being preached everywhere, but the way the man in this video went about it was the wrong way. Brother, how do you suppose your message came across to those officers? There they sat trying to explain what was going on as you sat there and whined about your "rights." In some countries, you could've been killed right then and there for preaching. Respect God given authority, win them over with humility, not arrogance. Maybe then your message will be heard.
why does every little twit with a camera think he has the freedom to do what ever they want, trying to make trouble wherever you go... blood sucking people like you are looking for ANYTHING to try and make into some type of case or lawsuit. give it a rest ffs. hassling security guards on a college campus is rediculous...
@Icewzrd Well, in all honesty the guard should know his "rules" not make a hazy guess as to what they are and tell someone if they will go to jail. I don't agree blasting religion to everyone, maybe a tent for those who want the info but, they had all rights.
Penn State is a publicly funded university which makes it public property. Basically Penn State wants to have it's cake and eat it too. It wants to be publicly funded while also enjoying the benefits of being a private enterprise. Sorry that combination does not work.
The wiretapping claim is completely bogus. Not only has this "wiretapping" claim for filming in public been proven bogus again and again. Glick vs Cunniffe also demonstrates that filming in public is a 1at amendment right.
It's private property designated for public use. There are rules for the campus that you need to follow. Follow them or you'll be asked to leave. If you then refuse to leave, you'll be charged with tresspassing...What is so hard to understand.
Penn State is a private land grant university, state affiliated, and it is not adminsitered by the state of Pennsylvania. The property is private, and private property rights trump your first amendment claims.
The wiretapping claim the cops are trying to make are bogus. Public or private property does not matter; in a scenario where people do not have the reasonable expectation of privacy, they cannot use a wiretapping claim.
Penn State actually is a private university; they are not part of the state system of higher education.
The cop was wrong about the wiretapping claim and filming audio.
So the reality is that your First Amendment Rights end where private property begins. You are only permitted to speak or use a bullhorn as long as the trustees of that property allow it. The reality is that using a bullhorn on an academic campus is just bad form.
should write there state legislature and demand a law that will allow you to video and audio the cops in public doing their jobs. As long as it is does not interfere with that job. Next is what the cops need to do to sizes the video for evidence.
The university police were right on everything except the fact that the wiretap law doesn't apply in this case.
The wiretap laws state that you cannot record a private conversation between two people without the consent of one of the people. In this case....YOU were the person giving consent and were legally recording this officer.
In a nut shell : This is private property with public access and you have to adhere to the rules of the University. The State does not participate in day to day operations of the school, it merely supports it in various forms such as public funding for an example. You People were wrong and out of touch with reality and the true meaning of the 1st amendment.
Advertizing/soliciting is not the same as protesting r expressing your freedom of speech. ALSO in public open space you can record and audio, wiretapping is WIRETAPPING. Freedom of Press is a nice fast way to shut them up.
it's private property.. dude wake up,,, I have nothing against teaching about anything but you do realize it's private property not public.. you should have went and got a permit to even be there in the first place,, dude you have to go to that school and they are there to protect the people there be cause it's private property . go to the end of the road where it's public property and do your preaching you will be within the law.. thanks
dumb person trying to be a smart person behind a camera.... some advice, shut the fuck up, your making yourself look like an idiot. defend your bill of rights but only when they are being violated. here is not the case. the officers are being fair with you. same rules apply to most if not all college level campus'
state affiliation??? is a citizen a usa citizen affilitaed with the goverenment.?? if we are equal in the eyes of the law. why cant people just ignore the relegious tracts?again are not citizens also afiliated with the state like it or not??????
fucking college kids, think they know everything... it's PRIVATE PROPERTY... the university owns it, not the state.... and while you're on their property, you have to follow their rules, or you can be asked to leave, or charged with trespassing. how hard is that to understand?
@timeisupUS you ask a low level campus cop a kind of confusing question, over and over again... after he said he's called his supervisor out (which in cop lingo means he doesnt know)... and then take what he says as being an complete and utter lie? the cameraman was purely looking to get something on film here... nothing else
@airforceranger48 u r a dumb fuck.......the cops intervened with them...................the police told different things.............although they were all very nice..............they should have went and found out the laws that applied.........the guy never(did i say never) got a straight answer
@andy2038 how did he not get a straight answer??? he was told it was private property, which it is... and he was also told that it was illegal to record someone without their consent... which it is in PA. looks to me like the cops were doing their job, and he's just another DUMB college kid, trying to prove how smart he is. are you really going to say, that because one low level cop didnt know the right answer, that his "rights" were violated (and even then, it wouldn't be the first amendment)
@airforceranger48 man come on.....did you watch it?............he was told it was public he was told it was private never got an answer that anyone could count on...........so let me tell you ...i am 21 years old..........i am 37 years old.......i am 43 years old..............now you tell me how old i am..................comprehend what you see
and he could be arrested for violation of the wiretap act, just for posting this on youtube... not likely, but could happen... as the police made it VERY clear in the video, that they didnt give consent, and yet, he still posted it.... so, i will put you both in the same category... ignorant ass holes
Penn state does not care about your rights or the Constitution. Just your money. Your rights be damned. That's what you get for going to Penn state and other so called "ivy league" Universities. You have no rights, and they don't care about individual rights. Just give your money and "Shut the Hell Up" attitude. Also, now your in debt.. Not worth going to these kinda colleges at all. Waste of money. Waste of time. Waste of your rights...
I wouldn't use a bullhorn because that would be causing a disruption. Just like I can play music in the car but I can't blare it full blast for the neighbors to hear. I would ask for the Dean instead of just talking to the officers.
Do they receive federal funding? Probally, so go file a complaint with the Department of Justice, and Dept of Education this way they can be striped of federal funding. Courts have ruled that religious pamphlets rather it be Latter Day Saints, Watchtower, or other religious pamphlets that are offered free is not soliciting and therefore subject to the 1st admendment protections by Constitutional law. Wiretapping refers to recording a wire conservation, not a on street encounter.
advice? grow the fuck up. you pay to go to college, therefore its private. Wire tap laws are in existence for audio only, you do need permission, and noise compliance is also a law in most every state. Therefore, you are illegally doing your bible thumping, and you CAN be arrested to answer your question asked 1 million fuckin times
this cop is wrong. you do not need someones permission to take audio. you merely need to inform them that you are recording. your using the camera in his full view was his information and his continuing the conversation was his consent. so fuck him
@PittsburghCopBlock actually you are wrong... PA's "wire type law" is what is known as a 2 part consent law... meaning that it is illegal to record someone's audio, WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT. look it up. title 18, article F, chapter 57, subchapter b. Jesus... soo much mis information, and speculation on this video... do some god damn research before you speak
@airforceranger48 sir i make my living by recording police in pa. the cop is free to walk away if he dont want recorded. him continuing the convo while knowing they are recording he is giving his consent. i KNOW the law. and no law or policy can trump the constitution. this cop is wrong and so are you. they are in public with no reasonable expectation of privacy
@PittsburghCopBlock i've seen your videos, and i HIGHLY doubt you make a living off of them. or that you "know the law"... i have been in law enforcement for 10 years (and no, i dont stand up for every cop out there, and i believe HIGLHLY in protecting individuals rights), and like i said, research the law, especially the title i provided for you previously. the bill of rights are not the only laws out there, and they dont give you the right to do any damn thing you want.
@PittsburghCopBlock soooo... if we have the right to bare arms, why is it a criminal charge to carry a concealed weapon without a permit in most states? same exact principle. i'm not trying to name call or defend the "blue wall"... i'm the first person to call out an officer who is in the wrong... but i will tell you this, the maker of this video was wrong, and you are wrong.
Wow, I have seen videos of stupid security but this one rates pretty high. I worked in law enforcement here in Ca and in intelligence gathering.They are Penn State campus police not city cops, they cannot pursue criminals off Penn state property. The officers all contradicted each other trying to guess if its public or private property, they dont even know! Recording audio and video in public is legal because there is no expectation of privacy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It;s very simple. No bull horn on campus! No handing out any literature; religious or otherwise without written permission from Penn. State. It is public property over which Penn State Univ has some rules which are recognized by the state of Penn. You are allowed to video & audio tape as long as all parties being taped are made aware of the fact they are being taped. There is no wiretapping or eavesdropping law in Penn as long as the rule(s) are being followed. Cop was not being honest
you guys are so ignorant, you don't even listen what people around you are talking. First of all this is not a public property. This is open for the public property. What's that mean is that you have your rights like on public property, but also you have to obey the rules of the property... Like some of the officers said in video. That is consider as soliciting but after you continue to do it your way you will be arrested for trespassing.
Douchebag cop is also WRONG (or lying) about the Penn Wiretap law. See Robinson v. Fetterman (2005). The individual troopers in that case were ordered to pay a total of 41,000 to the plaintiff for violating his civil rights.
Once again, Police officers showing their ignorance and overly creative interpretation of the wiretap laws. Additionally, it does not matter if the property is privately owned, what is relevant is that it is normally open to the public.
"The more an owner, for his advantage, opens up his property for use by the public in general, the more do his rights become circumscribed by the statutory and constitutional rights of those who use it." (Marsh v. Alabama)
Violation of wire tapping? LMAO....So when they record us wuth their dash cams....we can sue them? Oh....well.....ummmm......not raelly.....only we can break the law....hypocrites. Narrow is the path that leads to everlasting life and few there be that find it, wide is the path that leads to death and destruction and MANY go thereinat.
Universities have a lot of rules that are different than other places.As well as my private properties.You can't come on my property and say anything you want.I don't care what the constitution says.Buy your own property,pay your own taxes,say what you want there.I can make a rule saying you can't carry a gun on my land.It doesn't matter what permit you have.It doesn't apply on my lands.People have a lot of growing up to do.
"I don't care what the constitution says' Well that's lame. Let me put it to you this way... If something was to go to court, that constitution, ALWAYS wins! So it makes no difference if you don't care or not, because in the end, you lose.
"Wiretap" laws being used to arrest people recording police has been thrown out in every court - in public places, every court recognizes that nobody has a reasonable right to expect privacy, so wiretapping laws do not apply. Congress met a year ago to discuss and confirm exactly that.
Even JUDGES are saying, "fuck the cops!" What hope can these assholes stand on now?
@DVaughnII While I support civil rights, it is wrong to publicly preach at pedestrians and people minding their own business. Why? Because your asserting your religion on others forcefully and violating their rights to freedom of religion, and you're causing a public disturbance. That's why. Anyone who does it should be fined. Period.
Personally I'm totally sick of jesus freaks and bible thumpers shoving their religion down my throat at every turn, then whining about civil rights. Bullshit.
@GeneralHoohah As I am tired of hearing liberals preach the generalized assumption (brought to you by the leftist media) how everything in our country is wrong and should be changed even if it means to peoples right, how guns are the source of all problems. I hate bible thumpers to but libtards piss me off even more.
@tehatemachine I support the 2nd amendment completely, and I'm liberal. You can't stereo type people like that. Someone may be mostly liberal but it doesn't mean ALL their opinions are liberal. People never fall completely into one group or another in politics, its mostly a thick gravy of lots of gray areas.
But I do want religion stripped away from the government so its impartial and doesn't waste time with idiotic issues motivated by religion like gay rights, abortion, etc.
@GeneralHoohah Then I hope you feel the same way about gay and lesbian parades doing the same thing forcing their views and almost religion down our throats.
I can't stand being preached at either, but if we shut down their constitutional rights, then you can expect yours to be completely trampled too. It's understandable to prohibit amplification (bullhorns etc), but they have every right to be on public property and speaking about what is important to them. If it's private property, then it's another matter completely.
@oneNonBeliever Well if we completely got rid of every trace of religion, we wouldn't have to put up with it anymore. :) Man... that would be PARADISE!!!
@GeneralHoohah You can be "totally sick of jesus freaks and bible thumpers" all the fuck you want, but like it was stated Penn St. isn't private nor public property. If your against civil rights then maybe you should go live in a different country just sayin. Im totally sick and tired of stupid fucks whom are sideline bitch commentators. Why not state what you stand for and then see where the dice rolls??
Thumbs up to the cops, they were proper and respectful. If all the youtube vids showed cops like these then less people would be hating on them. Pennsylvania is one of the 12? states where you cannot audio record without both parties consent, so more props for the cop not lying.
@degenret01 Sorry, but the only reason those cops where respectful was from the lack of knowledge on their part. They didn't know how to respond to his questions, and to me it seemed like they where very unexperienced...the only reason they where nice.
@Ham549 the wire tap law also includes recording meetings etc. so technically it would be illegal to record this conversation without their permission on the campus which is private property. Im pretty sure its a different story on public property.
@degenret01 why do ppl have to be thick , the cop was polite and clear. if you use the bullhorn agaisnt the rules you will be trespassed. and yes, if youre on private property in Pa you need consent to record. the problem is that this is public property. and passing out leaflets is not soliciting - they are not asking for money.
@degenret01 yeah I got that, I wrote my comment before the video was thru. at a point one cop said where they were standing was public. later another said it was in fact campus property. athough it looks very much like a public street. I have often been told that I was on private property when it was public.
If you're using the bullhorn, you're violating ordinances that cover Disturbing the Peace, and you CAN be arrested no matter what you're saying over that bullhorn.
There are COPS not PIGS... They seemed pretty nice and helpful, I understand you didnt want your rights violated but you could have given them an easier time.
It's private property. As long as you are there by your own consent then legally they are allowed to impose whatever rules they wish as long as it isnt inflicting harm onto others, nor yourself.
Incorrect assessment. Just because a property is "Private Property" does not mean your civil rights are automatically curtailed. If the property is regularly open for use by the public, your rights do not end where the property line begins. See Marsh v. Alabama, 326 U.S. 501 (1946). "The more an owner, for his advantage, opens up his property for use by the public in general, the more do his rights become circumscribed by the statutory and constitutional rights of those who use it."
@eluminated even on public property the management of said property can impose the rules for they are in care of the property that tax payers pay for. Assuming the university here is ran on tuition it is also up to the management. Public or private you still need a permit to do what you wish. Public being that almost anyone can get a permit and private being at the discretion of the owner.
You must be a christian terrorist because your bullhorning your recording police and handing out very dangerous christian literature.These cops are jokers they can't just use the terrorist act against you especially if they have dealt with earlier in the week and had no reason to think you were terrorists.u are on public proprty nothing they told u is true,unless u step onto their property.
Thats the reason y People get arrested by bothering police men they can't even do they job without people like u just screws up everyone's day dam I hate people that do things like this & put on youtube.
Thats the reason y People get arrested by bothering police men they can't even do they job without people like u just screws up everyone's day dam I hate people that do things like these & put on youtube.
However, when authorized by the Justice Department and signed by a United States District Court or Court of Appeals judge, a wiretap order permits law enforcement to intercept communications for up to thirty days.
The Wiretap Act broadly prohibits the intentional interception, use, or disclosure of wire and electronic communications unless a statutory exception applies. . In general, these prohibitions bars third parties (including the government) from wiretapping telephones and installing electronic "sniffers" that read Internet traffic.
The law does not cover oral communications when the speakers do not have an "expectation that such communication is not subject to interception under circumstances justifying such expectation." Therefore, you may be able to record in-person conversations occurring in a public place without consent.
I agree with the guy at the top who posted. I'm not a religious person at all, and if fact, I'm usually protesting religious people, but I think taking away peoples' rights is horrible. Because if you can't say what you want to say (which might sound good to me for a second), pretty soon I won't be able to say what I want to say (which I'm obviously against).
your on public property but your on school campus why are you being hard headed its the campus's rules, go give out your papers out someone else other than the campus, and he was right you where in violation of wiretapping law, get it right
@santiago2331 I'm pretty sure that the wiretapping law doesn't apply in public. Hes just giving them a hard time, but one officer said it was public property and then the other saw it was private property...
@DrummingBonham Hey dumbfuck,i meant inside or outside you retard,not specific states.Also Zeppelin groupie,more states have wiretapping laws than just New Hampshire,stop being a ignorant pimple on someones ass and learn state and FEDERAL laws!
@tonydio666 No because the wiretap law is only in every state to make it illegal to wiretap someones phone calls. the other part of the law that states choose is if you can use camera's, audio recorders, cell phones and the amount of people you need to consent. new hampshire, DC, and Massachusetts needs consent of all party.. those are facts btw, and um ? led zeppelin hasnt been a full band for 30 years so how the fuck am i a groupie?
@DrummingBonham You said in your previous post i am a liar,New Hampshire is the only state that has the wiretap law. It's ironic you have added Massachusetts to the list of states now.Who's the liar? LOL- I'm from Chicago,i know when Bonham died and when Zeppelin died,you know what the refference was to i'm sure.
@THUMPBUMPDUDE No... while you have every right to assemble is a PUBLIC forum.. private property is another matter. So you're saying a group of people can gather outside anywhere? At any time? And say whatever they want? Sorry sir, the rights of the law abiding citizens around said group would trump an angry mob.
Try going to a private, well-populated venue.. and screaming fire. See how well that works out with your definition of "constitutional rights" .. or just go back to Glenn Beck.
i like how they dont answer your questions i would have chewed them out id be like i answered your questions with the utmost respect and honesty can i have the same respect from you officer .. DOES MY 1st amendment apply to this SCHOOLS POLICY OR IS SCHOOL POLICY GREATER THAN THE CONSTITUTION and he would have answered cuz i would have repeated over and over and over and over till he answered
Penn State is a quasi-government agency as they are sponsored & funded by taxpayer dollars as well as a taxing agent. They cannot create rules impede with your rights as an American. Including your Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion AND consent is not required of any parties if the parties do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy for their non-electronic communication. See definition of “oral communication,” 18 Pa. Cons. Stat. § 5702.
This is stupid cuz these guys with the camera are jsut asking over and over"so you said this" which clearly the officers stated to them multiple times, these students are fucking stupid. GTFO..they r so anoyying.
@thatsmynamebud1 :these students are trying to get a confirming answer "has the 1st amendment been outlawed?". I think the officers are beyond annoying to the extent of deprivation of rights. "You might get arrested"? Sounds like a game to me. 'Flip me a doobie and I'll let you go'? I seen you last week, i didn't do anything then (i was still wasted from the night before), but today I've changed my mind (ACID). Idiots in uniform carrying guns paid with student loans.
@mydogR3X What...the...fuck...are you talking about? you sound like a robot....i didn't understand one word of that and idk what the hell your trying to tell em lol. not being mean, just curious.
I like that fact that you sought to defend your rights. However, there is a 'fighting words' clause that prohibits speech that may incite a riot. The not recording audio is bs though.
@cav1967 the constitution and bill of rights does not state what you mention here, therefore it is not a law that need be followed. "fighting words clause" is not constitutional, so is not a law
The supreme court has ruled that in certain cases, it is constitutional to require protesters to register for permits for certain actions. Even if this were not true, you're blaming the officers for university policy. You try to trap them into saying something wrong in order to make them look bad. I'm definitely in favor of free speech, but you're trying to create a free speech problem where there isn't one.
so funny he is a SECURITY OFFICER FOR A COLLEGE thats a perfect example of a man who failed in high school and couldnt get into a criminal justice program so he became a SECURITY GUARD HAHAHA
HEY, SON--PEOPLE ARRE BEING BEATEN DEAT, SHOT DEAD, INCARCERATED, EXECUTED---WE NEED TO ADDRESS THESE
postpile 2 hours ago
I can't believe I made such a bad typo. That should have been written "their" and not "there." LOL
typhon3808 18 hours ago
Yet another example of cops making laws up to suit there own whims. What the cop said about audio recording in public is ABSOLUTELY FALSE. As long as the person recording the audio is part of the conversation, he does NOT have to have the permission of the other individuals to record video or audio in public. The Supreme Court has also affirmed this and stated ruled that public audio and video recording is NOT a violation of wiretapping laws because it's not wiretapping! Imagine that...
typhon3808 18 hours ago
rofl you can take your procedure and shove it up your pig ass bitch i do what i want and guess what if somebody want to give you a minature bible they have that right jehova witnesses do it but oh no everybody wants to pin the christians fuck you all and davidd 320 you are one of the biggest bitches ive ever heard.
irishpker27 2 days ago
I'am for First Admendment rights, but I agree with the police officers on this one. Bible thumpers should not have the right to force their beliefs on you no matter if they do it on public or private property. It should be illegal for them to do that. Freedom of Religion should mean that you have the right to practice the beliefs you want to practice not the ones some streetside or door to door preacher wants you to practice. It's about time a cop brings these fools down a peg or two.
davidd320 2 days ago
I don't think this guy is very articulate, and you've got no fundamental right to use a bullhorn, but passing out tracts, even if the school has a rule, it's not right, contrary to 1st amendment.
boatbrain1 5 days ago
The officer is scared of making a mistake on camera.
Foxpoop 1 week ago
what dumbasses. wow. I have never seen such idiocy
bigbadbull82 1 week ago
How many times do they have to tell you dumb ass, you can't do that kind of stuff on campus without permission. You are disturbing other students, and also making a fool of yourself. Those police officers should have taken you into custody and beat the crap out of you for just being stupid. You don't understand English.
MrJack65721 1 week ago
Being a publicly funded university does not make the campus public property. It's a private institute which is open to the public (students). I'm sure Penn State has it has it's own set of rules. If you want to pass out religious crap, first, learn how to speak English clearly. Second, peddle your "religion" elsewhere, or just dump it into the trash can. Typical "Occupy" scum.
agenthoit211 2 weeks ago
Shoving your agenda down your own throats douches
chowner 2 weeks ago
All universities have rules while on their campus. I know Michigan does. While a public university they have rules for where you can exorcize "free speech" on campus. You can be banned from University grounds. This is a dumb video and obviously the people filming don't know the rules and laws regarding this.
dabeev 2 weeks ago
Wire tapping laws only apply to what can be reasonably considered "private" conversations. Conversations held in public, where anyone can over hear what is being said, are not protected by these wire tapping laws. The Supreme Court has already ruled on this. Audio and Video recording, in areas freely accessible to the public, is a right protected under the 1st amendment.
CaughtNTheCrosshair2 2 weeks ago
These campus officers are correct. The school can set rules to be followed within their area of responsibility and if you do not abide by those rules then you can be kicked out. And if you don't leave when asked, then you can be charged with trespassing. It's just like you can't go into a government building and do whatever you want, even though it's technically public property.
1775novten 3 weeks ago
This camera guy needs to be choked to death. Could anyone be more stupid?
robonthedrums6942 1 month ago
Doesn't this guy remind you of the security guard from "Something about Mary"(movie). Dufus
ElBravoDaniel 1 month ago
Amendment rights also need to be practiced with due regard or comon sense. You guys manipulate rights and make yourselves look stupid as hell.
runningwolfkenpo 1 month ago
u mest ur self up
DjKushKushDGIT 1 month ago
These cops shoul of been doing something better with their time...... like catching CHILD MOLESTERS!!!!!!
blcrites4 1 month ago
all of this is useless unless someone is arrested..right?
springboro45342 1 month ago
insert penn state joke here...
bakonfreek 1 month ago
@bakonfreek
From Penn State to State pen
hfurjiskkr5 1 week ago
@stoshd well the guy recording is still obnoxious and unnecessary. And the other officer in the video... the supervisor, also said that it is a Pennsylvania law...
>_>
Dumb cops lie about the laws
ryandonian 1 month ago
That said; Title 18, Part II, Article F, Chapter 57, Subchapter A, "you may be able to record in-person conversations occurring in a public place without consent. However, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any conversation that common sense tells you is private."
01Eldar 1 month ago
It's only freedom of the press if you're in fact a member of the press. You identify yourself as "preaching" and state that you're distributing religious tracts. You're not a credentialed member of the press. Sorry~ you're in fact in the wrong. They recieved a noise compliant. You're disturbing the peace on private property and closing on obscructing a police officer which could be considered disorderly conduct.
01Eldar 1 month ago
@stoshd not sure if trolling, or just stupid.
in the video, the officer says "that's without my consent... you're in violation of wiretap act: you're not allowed to record people's voices without their consent." he needs to be arrested. he is obnoxious, annoying, and uploaded this while still in full knowledge of the fact that the officer did not consent to it. that is way worse than accidentally recording an undercover officer who suddenly screeched his car in front of you.
ryandonian 1 month ago
also, has this guy been arrested yet?
i remember the guy that was innocently recording his motorcycle riding when a cop pulled a gun on him, and got arrested for wire-tapping.
that officer did not give this guy his consent to record his voice... this is more of a case than the motorcycle one.
ryandonian 1 month ago
Thank God i'm Atheist.
yes,.....^^^ i know.
ryandonian 1 month ago
Was it you guys in the story here -
pennrecord com/news/arrests-over-cell-phone-videotaping-of-police-lead-to-increasing-number-of-lawsuits/
withmyeye 1 month ago
And this is why I cant stand evangelists. Thank God I'm Episcopalian.
DAllen1738 1 month ago
if i seen this guy i would punch him in the face
jjmusicpro 2 months ago
I am a Christian and Im all for the Gospel being preached everywhere, but the way the man in this video went about it was the wrong way. Brother, how do you suppose your message came across to those officers? There they sat trying to explain what was going on as you sat there and whined about your "rights." In some countries, you could've been killed right then and there for preaching. Respect God given authority, win them over with humility, not arrogance. Maybe then your message will be heard.
jim112342 2 months ago
why does every little twit with a camera think he has the freedom to do what ever they want, trying to make trouble wherever you go... blood sucking people like you are looking for ANYTHING to try and make into some type of case or lawsuit. give it a rest ffs. hassling security guards on a college campus is rediculous...
Icewzrd 2 months ago 2
@Icewzrd you are being presuptuous
pressbox1492 2 months ago
@Icewzrd ..... Get a real job, you wanna be cop. You are an idiot!
billwho62 3 weeks ago
@Icewzrd Well, in all honesty the guard should know his "rules" not make a hazy guess as to what they are and tell someone if they will go to jail. I don't agree blasting religion to everyone, maybe a tent for those who want the info but, they had all rights.
xNTEPxOBL1V14X3 2 weeks ago
Penn State is a publicly funded university which makes it public property. Basically Penn State wants to have it's cake and eat it too. It wants to be publicly funded while also enjoying the benefits of being a private enterprise. Sorry that combination does not work.
The wiretapping claim is completely bogus. Not only has this "wiretapping" claim for filming in public been proven bogus again and again. Glick vs Cunniffe also demonstrates that filming in public is a 1at amendment right.
snarky77005 2 months ago 2
It's private property designated for public use. There are rules for the campus that you need to follow. Follow them or you'll be asked to leave. If you then refuse to leave, you'll be charged with tresspassing...What is so hard to understand.
thebatman101069 3 months ago 2
Penn State is a private land grant university, state affiliated, and it is not adminsitered by the state of Pennsylvania. The property is private, and private property rights trump your first amendment claims.
The wiretapping claim the cops are trying to make are bogus. Public or private property does not matter; in a scenario where people do not have the reasonable expectation of privacy, they cannot use a wiretapping claim.
Momusism 3 months ago
Penn State actually is a private university; they are not part of the state system of higher education.
The cop was wrong about the wiretapping claim and filming audio.
So the reality is that your First Amendment Rights end where private property begins. You are only permitted to speak or use a bullhorn as long as the trustees of that property allow it. The reality is that using a bullhorn on an academic campus is just bad form.
Momusism 3 months ago
Keep in mind federal law is above state law
TheBarerOfBadNews 3 months ago
should write there state legislature and demand a law that will allow you to video and audio the cops in public doing their jobs. As long as it is does not interfere with that job. Next is what the cops need to do to sizes the video for evidence.
samten10a 3 months ago
The university police were right on everything except the fact that the wiretap law doesn't apply in this case.
The wiretap laws state that you cannot record a private conversation between two people without the consent of one of the people. In this case....YOU were the person giving consent and were legally recording this officer.
dustindammeier 3 months ago
IF YOUR ON PRIVATE PROPERTY DO AS THEY WISH OR GET OFF !!
akaknocksville 3 months ago
In a nut shell : This is private property with public access and you have to adhere to the rules of the University. The State does not participate in day to day operations of the school, it merely supports it in various forms such as public funding for an example. You People were wrong and out of touch with reality and the true meaning of the 1st amendment.
hawkerdoo 3 months ago
Advertizing/soliciting is not the same as protesting r expressing your freedom of speech. ALSO in public open space you can record and audio, wiretapping is WIRETAPPING. Freedom of Press is a nice fast way to shut them up.
MiamiRSVP 3 months ago
brah i swear your twisting all their words. you should just shut up this is my freedom of speech "your voice is fricken irritating" how about that
Princessmascardo1 3 months ago
Dvaughnll you need to go back to college! and try majoring in law. mahalo!
Princessmascardo1 3 months ago
pen state is that were the fags are
galegregory97comcast 3 months ago
it's private property.. dude wake up,,, I have nothing against teaching about anything but you do realize it's private property not public.. you should have went and got a permit to even be there in the first place,, dude you have to go to that school and they are there to protect the people there be cause it's private property . go to the end of the road where it's public property and do your preaching you will be within the law.. thanks
MOfus101 3 months ago
dumb person trying to be a smart person behind a camera.... some advice, shut the fuck up, your making yourself look like an idiot. defend your bill of rights but only when they are being violated. here is not the case. the officers are being fair with you. same rules apply to most if not all college level campus'
killednemo65 3 months ago
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killednemo65 3 months ago
@1Shiznit if it were public property then anyone would be able to attend classes . it is affiliated with the state but it is privately run.
timeisupUS 3 months ago
state affiliation??? is a citizen a usa citizen affilitaed with the goverenment.?? if we are equal in the eyes of the law. why cant people just ignore the relegious tracts?again are not citizens also afiliated with the state like it or not??????
stealthgerm 3 months ago
fucking college kids, think they know everything... it's PRIVATE PROPERTY... the university owns it, not the state.... and while you're on their property, you have to follow their rules, or you can be asked to leave, or charged with trespassing. how hard is that to understand?
airforceranger48 3 months ago
@airforceranger48 it was confusing only because one of the cops said it was public property
timeisupUS 3 months ago
@timeisupUS you ask a low level campus cop a kind of confusing question, over and over again... after he said he's called his supervisor out (which in cop lingo means he doesnt know)... and then take what he says as being an complete and utter lie? the cameraman was purely looking to get something on film here... nothing else
airforceranger48 3 months ago
@airforceranger48 u r a dumb fuck.......the cops intervened with them...................the police told different things.............although they were all very nice..............they should have went and found out the laws that applied.........the guy never(did i say never) got a straight answer
andy2038 3 months ago
@andy2038 how did he not get a straight answer??? he was told it was private property, which it is... and he was also told that it was illegal to record someone without their consent... which it is in PA. looks to me like the cops were doing their job, and he's just another DUMB college kid, trying to prove how smart he is. are you really going to say, that because one low level cop didnt know the right answer, that his "rights" were violated (and even then, it wouldn't be the first amendment)
airforceranger48 3 months ago
@airforceranger48 man come on.....did you watch it?............he was told it was public he was told it was private never got an answer that anyone could count on...........so let me tell you ...i am 21 years old..........i am 37 years old.......i am 43 years old..............now you tell me how old i am..................comprehend what you see
andy2038 3 months ago
and he could be arrested for violation of the wiretap act, just for posting this on youtube... not likely, but could happen... as the police made it VERY clear in the video, that they didnt give consent, and yet, he still posted it.... so, i will put you both in the same category... ignorant ass holes
airforceranger48 3 months ago
Penn state does not care about your rights or the Constitution. Just your money. Your rights be damned. That's what you get for going to Penn state and other so called "ivy league" Universities. You have no rights, and they don't care about individual rights. Just give your money and "Shut the Hell Up" attitude. Also, now your in debt.. Not worth going to these kinda colleges at all. Waste of money. Waste of time. Waste of your rights...
cshawn07 3 months ago
you CANNOT destribute religious views or other views cos u r living in a POLICE NAZI REGIME thats why!!!
321billygoat 3 months ago
Bicycle cops are basically reject cops.
SCHIZOPHRENlC 3 months ago
I wouldn't use a bullhorn because that would be causing a disruption. Just like I can play music in the car but I can't blare it full blast for the neighbors to hear. I would ask for the Dean instead of just talking to the officers.
willdav713 3 months ago
Do they receive federal funding? Probally, so go file a complaint with the Department of Justice, and Dept of Education this way they can be striped of federal funding. Courts have ruled that religious pamphlets rather it be Latter Day Saints, Watchtower, or other religious pamphlets that are offered free is not soliciting and therefore subject to the 1st admendment protections by Constitutional law. Wiretapping refers to recording a wire conservation, not a on street encounter.
willdav713 3 months ago
i like these vids when a smart person is behind the camera, not the case here
gta4drpepper 3 months ago
hate people who preach for rights but yet don't know them their self
puff420x 3 months ago
this student is a fucking idiot....university area is a private property.
2971dean 3 months ago
this student is a fucking idiot....
2971dean 3 months ago
Changing the words around my ass, i fucking hate cops, we seriously have no fuckin rights these days..... its sad..
bashiersoto 3 months ago
Those cops always dodging the questions.
GreanGrow 3 months ago
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advice? grow the fuck up. you pay to go to college, therefore its private. Wire tap laws are in existence for audio only, you do need permission, and noise compliance is also a law in most every state. Therefore, you are illegally doing your bible thumping, and you CAN be arrested to answer your question asked 1 million fuckin times
gudenkau 3 months ago
wow some of the nicest cops ive ever seen. In La their slammin you on a hood by now. Your harassing them bro.
SoundboyEnt 3 months ago
So these poor young people cannot hear about God. They are taught all about liberal ideals that will destroy them eventually.
darthspeaks 4 months ago
You are looking to be persecuted. Not looking to preach Jesus.
Would we be arrested for passing religious flyers
Would we be arrested for filming
Would we be arrested for preaching with bullhorn
JOSEtheHELPER 4 months ago
Contact the American Center For Law and Justice
educatedman76 4 months ago
See, religion just causes problems.
anoray6 4 months ago
Was there a court case?
filoIII 4 months ago
this cop is wrong. you do not need someones permission to take audio. you merely need to inform them that you are recording. your using the camera in his full view was his information and his continuing the conversation was his consent. so fuck him
PittsburghCopBlock 4 months ago
@PittsburghCopBlock actually you are wrong... PA's "wire type law" is what is known as a 2 part consent law... meaning that it is illegal to record someone's audio, WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT. look it up. title 18, article F, chapter 57, subchapter b. Jesus... soo much mis information, and speculation on this video... do some god damn research before you speak
airforceranger48 3 months ago
@airforceranger48 sir i make my living by recording police in pa. the cop is free to walk away if he dont want recorded. him continuing the convo while knowing they are recording he is giving his consent. i KNOW the law. and no law or policy can trump the constitution. this cop is wrong and so are you. they are in public with no reasonable expectation of privacy
PittsburghCopBlock 3 months ago
@PittsburghCopBlock i've seen your videos, and i HIGHLY doubt you make a living off of them. or that you "know the law"... i have been in law enforcement for 10 years (and no, i dont stand up for every cop out there, and i believe HIGLHLY in protecting individuals rights), and like i said, research the law, especially the title i provided for you previously. the bill of rights are not the only laws out there, and they dont give you the right to do any damn thing you want.
airforceranger48 3 months ago
@PittsburghCopBlock soooo... if we have the right to bare arms, why is it a criminal charge to carry a concealed weapon without a permit in most states? same exact principle. i'm not trying to name call or defend the "blue wall"... i'm the first person to call out an officer who is in the wrong... but i will tell you this, the maker of this video was wrong, and you are wrong.
airforceranger48 3 months ago
Wow, I have seen videos of stupid security but this one rates pretty high. I worked in law enforcement here in Ca and in intelligence gathering.They are Penn State campus police not city cops, they cannot pursue criminals off Penn state property. The officers all contradicted each other trying to guess if its public or private property, they dont even know! Recording audio and video in public is legal because there is no expectation of privacy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrBigoutlaw 4 months ago
It;s very simple. No bull horn on campus! No handing out any literature; religious or otherwise without written permission from Penn. State. It is public property over which Penn State Univ has some rules which are recognized by the state of Penn. You are allowed to video & audio tape as long as all parties being taped are made aware of the fact they are being taped. There is no wiretapping or eavesdropping law in Penn as long as the rule(s) are being followed. Cop was not being honest
ohannahdad 4 months ago
you guys are so ignorant, you don't even listen what people around you are talking. First of all this is not a public property. This is open for the public property. What's that mean is that you have your rights like on public property, but also you have to obey the rules of the property... Like some of the officers said in video. That is consider as soliciting but after you continue to do it your way you will be arrested for trespassing.
vesnavukojcic 4 months ago
Douchebag cop is also WRONG (or lying) about the Penn Wiretap law. See Robinson v. Fetterman (2005). The individual troopers in that case were ordered to pay a total of 41,000 to the plaintiff for violating his civil rights.
Stalicone 4 months ago
Once again, Police officers showing their ignorance and overly creative interpretation of the wiretap laws. Additionally, it does not matter if the property is privately owned, what is relevant is that it is normally open to the public.
"The more an owner, for his advantage, opens up his property for use by the public in general, the more do his rights become circumscribed by the statutory and constitutional rights of those who use it." (Marsh v. Alabama)
Stalicone 4 months ago
Looks like 3 campus cops trying to do their jobs and you guys kept pushing them. Good job on proving your point.
Boona9 5 months ago
@Boona9 Lol these werent campus cops. These were city police officers.
Si13ntKi11 4 months ago
Violation of wire tapping? LMAO....So when they record us wuth their dash cams....we can sue them? Oh....well.....ummmm......not raelly.....only we can break the law....hypocrites. Narrow is the path that leads to everlasting life and few there be that find it, wide is the path that leads to death and destruction and MANY go thereinat.
shadapple 5 months ago
It's not soliciting unless you are trying to sell a service or product.
shadapple 5 months ago
Universities have a lot of rules that are different than other places.As well as my private properties.You can't come on my property and say anything you want.I don't care what the constitution says.Buy your own property,pay your own taxes,say what you want there.I can make a rule saying you can't carry a gun on my land.It doesn't matter what permit you have.It doesn't apply on my lands.People have a lot of growing up to do.
Ms703703 5 months ago
@Ms703703
"I don't care what the constitution says' Well that's lame. Let me put it to you this way... If something was to go to court, that constitution, ALWAYS wins! So it makes no difference if you don't care or not, because in the end, you lose.
fmnma1 5 months ago
this shit head didnt have shit to do but bothering the police..acting like he knows the law....
police561 5 months ago
THIS ASSHOLE WITH THE CAMERA IS JUST TRYING TO START SHIT !!
akaknocksville 5 months ago
"Wiretap" laws being used to arrest people recording police has been thrown out in every court - in public places, every court recognizes that nobody has a reasonable right to expect privacy, so wiretapping laws do not apply. Congress met a year ago to discuss and confirm exactly that.
Even JUDGES are saying, "fuck the cops!" What hope can these assholes stand on now?
galathonredd 5 months ago
@DVaughnII While I support civil rights, it is wrong to publicly preach at pedestrians and people minding their own business. Why? Because your asserting your religion on others forcefully and violating their rights to freedom of religion, and you're causing a public disturbance. That's why. Anyone who does it should be fined. Period.
Personally I'm totally sick of jesus freaks and bible thumpers shoving their religion down my throat at every turn, then whining about civil rights. Bullshit.
GeneralHoohah 5 months ago
@GeneralHoohah As I am tired of hearing liberals preach the generalized assumption (brought to you by the leftist media) how everything in our country is wrong and should be changed even if it means to peoples right, how guns are the source of all problems. I hate bible thumpers to but libtards piss me off even more.
tehatemachine 4 months ago
@tehatemachine I support the 2nd amendment completely, and I'm liberal. You can't stereo type people like that. Someone may be mostly liberal but it doesn't mean ALL their opinions are liberal. People never fall completely into one group or another in politics, its mostly a thick gravy of lots of gray areas.
But I do want religion stripped away from the government so its impartial and doesn't waste time with idiotic issues motivated by religion like gay rights, abortion, etc.
GeneralHoohah 4 months ago
@GeneralHoohah Then I hope you feel the same way about gay and lesbian parades doing the same thing forcing their views and almost religion down our throats.
freespeachrulez 4 months ago
@GeneralHoohah
I can't stand being preached at either, but if we shut down their constitutional rights, then you can expect yours to be completely trampled too. It's understandable to prohibit amplification (bullhorns etc), but they have every right to be on public property and speaking about what is important to them. If it's private property, then it's another matter completely.
oneNonBeliever 4 months ago
@oneNonBeliever Well if we completely got rid of every trace of religion, we wouldn't have to put up with it anymore. :) Man... that would be PARADISE!!!
GeneralHoohah 4 months ago
@GeneralHoohah You can be "totally sick of jesus freaks and bible thumpers" all the fuck you want, but like it was stated Penn St. isn't private nor public property. If your against civil rights then maybe you should go live in a different country just sayin. Im totally sick and tired of stupid fucks whom are sideline bitch commentators. Why not state what you stand for and then see where the dice rolls??
kenjiro2004 4 months ago
@GeneralHoohah Couldn't have said it better myself.
SoundboyEnt 3 months ago
That's what I like to see - pigs squirming oink oink !!!
ThomasAUSTRALIA1 6 months ago
I don't see any violation of the First Amendment. Or any amendment
Mzec0708 6 months ago
You are a moron. Go join a church.
shawngee1 6 months ago
Thumbs up to the cops, they were proper and respectful. If all the youtube vids showed cops like these then less people would be hating on them. Pennsylvania is one of the 12? states where you cannot audio record without both parties consent, so more props for the cop not lying.
degenret01 6 months ago 6
@degenret01 Sorry, but the only reason those cops where respectful was from the lack of knowledge on their part. They didn't know how to respond to his questions, and to me it seemed like they where very unexperienced...the only reason they where nice.
KingKova7 6 months ago
@degenret01 Freedom of the press overrides that rule. This law is only meant to apply to phone conversations.
Ham549 3 months ago
@Ham549 the wire tap law also includes recording meetings etc. so technically it would be illegal to record this conversation without their permission on the campus which is private property. Im pretty sure its a different story on public property.
timeisupUS 3 months ago
@degenret01 why do ppl have to be thick , the cop was polite and clear. if you use the bullhorn agaisnt the rules you will be trespassed. and yes, if youre on private property in Pa you need consent to record. the problem is that this is public property. and passing out leaflets is not soliciting - they are not asking for money.
timeisupUS 3 months ago
@timeisupUS A private university is NOT public ground.
degenret01 3 months ago
@degenret01 yeah I got that, I wrote my comment before the video was thru. at a point one cop said where they were standing was public. later another said it was in fact campus property. athough it looks very much like a public street. I have often been told that I was on private property when it was public.
timeisupUS 3 months ago
If you're using the bullhorn, you're violating ordinances that cover Disturbing the Peace, and you CAN be arrested no matter what you're saying over that bullhorn.
NinjaRider777R 6 months ago
There are COPS not PIGS... They seemed pretty nice and helpful, I understand you didnt want your rights violated but you could have given them an easier time.
OooHesGood 7 months ago
It's private property. As long as you are there by your own consent then legally they are allowed to impose whatever rules they wish as long as it isnt inflicting harm onto others, nor yourself.
killerrey 7 months ago 15
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@killerrey
Incorrect assessment. Just because a property is "Private Property" does not mean your civil rights are automatically curtailed. If the property is regularly open for use by the public, your rights do not end where the property line begins. See Marsh v. Alabama, 326 U.S. 501 (1946). "The more an owner, for his advantage, opens up his property for use by the public in general, the more do his rights become circumscribed by the statutory and constitutional rights of those who use it."
Stalicone 4 months ago
@killerrey It's Penn State university, it's not privately owned, and it's not private property.
senselocke 4 months ago
@killerrey Not true, it's public property. The cop even says so.
eluminated 3 months ago
@eluminated even on public property the management of said property can impose the rules for they are in care of the property that tax payers pay for. Assuming the university here is ran on tuition it is also up to the management. Public or private you still need a permit to do what you wish. Public being that almost anyone can get a permit and private being at the discretion of the owner.
killerrey 3 months ago
kkeep up the fight i do the same anytime i see a cop violate rights(which is alot)
FPU4eva 7 months ago
They do not need to be spamming religion anyway. Tryn to scare people into religion so they come to church and give them 10%
Derail07 7 months ago
It's private property.
akima57185 7 months ago
These cops should train other cops on being patient and professional..
arpus9091 7 months ago
Jesus the cops don't know shit, none of their stories pan out... good god, watching these cops talk made me lose 20 IQ points.
student908065 8 months ago
I don't see where FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS or CNN are ever required to ask everyone around them if they can record audio in a public place.
MrBullfrog9876 8 months ago
You must be a christian terrorist because your bullhorning your recording police and handing out very dangerous christian literature.These cops are jokers they can't just use the terrorist act against you especially if they have dealt with earlier in the week and had no reason to think you were terrorists.u are on public proprty nothing they told u is true,unless u step onto their property.
2wheels88 8 months ago
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Thats the reason y People get arrested by bothering police men they can't even do they job without people like u just screws up everyone's day dam I hate people that do things like this & put on youtube.
dre8431 8 months ago
Thats the reason y People get arrested by bothering police men they can't even do they job without people like u just screws up everyone's day dam I hate people that do things like these & put on youtube.
dre8431 8 months ago
However, when authorized by the Justice Department and signed by a United States District Court or Court of Appeals judge, a wiretap order permits law enforcement to intercept communications for up to thirty days.
briliberty1776 8 months ago
The Wiretap Act broadly prohibits the intentional interception, use, or disclosure of wire and electronic communications unless a statutory exception applies. . In general, these prohibitions bars third parties (including the government) from wiretapping telephones and installing electronic "sniffers" that read Internet traffic.
briliberty1776 8 months ago
The law does not cover oral communications when the speakers do not have an "expectation that such communication is not subject to interception under circumstances justifying such expectation." Therefore, you may be able to record in-person conversations occurring in a public place without consent.
mobgrazer 9 months ago 2
<3 THIS
UFCownage 11 months ago
I agree with the guy at the top who posted. I'm not a religious person at all, and if fact, I'm usually protesting religious people, but I think taking away peoples' rights is horrible. Because if you can't say what you want to say (which might sound good to me for a second), pretty soon I won't be able to say what I want to say (which I'm obviously against).
GodPrefersAnAtheist 11 months ago
DVaughnll you are a fucking dumb ass, the rules of the college is the law of the city, state AND government
floridaman2000 1 year ago
@floridaman2000 wrong
OrangeUCrazy 1 year ago
These types of Videos are So important to help protect our rights!
Thanks for posting.
ThinkReal 1 year ago
That's university park PENN STATE YEH!
AjfromDamons 1 year ago
instead of violating school rules and argueing with rent a cops why dont you jus go talk to 1 of the 327382 girls that passed by in this video
cletedawgthewalmart 1 year ago
your right who ever is in this film and who ever says different is just plain wrong like the cops were
MrTwisted66 1 year ago
your on public property but your on school campus why are you being hard headed its the campus's rules, go give out your papers out someone else other than the campus, and he was right you where in violation of wiretapping law, get it right
santiago2331 1 year ago
@santiago2331 I'm pretty sure that the wiretapping law doesn't apply in public. Hes just giving them a hard time, but one officer said it was public property and then the other saw it was private property...
dbrandinni 1 year ago
@dbrandinni The wiretap law includes anywhere and everywhere.
tonydio666 10 months ago
@tonydio666 no it doesnt you liar! wiretap law is only in new hampshire
DrummingBonham 9 months ago
@DrummingBonham Hey dumbfuck,i meant inside or outside you retard,not specific states.Also Zeppelin groupie,more states have wiretapping laws than just New Hampshire,stop being a ignorant pimple on someones ass and learn state and FEDERAL laws!
tonydio666 9 months ago
@tonydio666 No because the wiretap law is only in every state to make it illegal to wiretap someones phone calls. the other part of the law that states choose is if you can use camera's, audio recorders, cell phones and the amount of people you need to consent. new hampshire, DC, and Massachusetts needs consent of all party.. those are facts btw, and um ? led zeppelin hasnt been a full band for 30 years so how the fuck am i a groupie?
DrummingBonham 9 months ago
@DrummingBonham You said in your previous post i am a liar,New Hampshire is the only state that has the wiretap law. It's ironic you have added Massachusetts to the list of states now.Who's the liar? LOL- I'm from Chicago,i know when Bonham died and when Zeppelin died,you know what the refference was to i'm sure.
tonydio666 9 months ago
@DrummingBonham Why dont you re-read that.. I said those other states needed consent...
DrummingBonham 9 months ago
@santiago2331 wiretapping laws can not override the US Constitution. id take that one to court any day,
OrangeUCrazy 1 year ago
lol its a RULE, the First Amendment to the CONSTITUTION overrides it
THUMPBUMPDUDE 1 year ago
@THUMPBUMPDUDE No... while you have every right to assemble is a PUBLIC forum.. private property is another matter. So you're saying a group of people can gather outside anywhere? At any time? And say whatever they want? Sorry sir, the rights of the law abiding citizens around said group would trump an angry mob.
Try going to a private, well-populated venue.. and screaming fire. See how well that works out with your definition of "constitutional rights" .. or just go back to Glenn Beck.
ShotgunForFun 1 year ago
Wiretap laws are for instances of secretively intercepting voices, NOT in public when no one has no expectation of privacy. This is CRAP.
samjessjack1 1 year ago
i like how they dont answer your questions i would have chewed them out id be like i answered your questions with the utmost respect and honesty can i have the same respect from you officer .. DOES MY 1st amendment apply to this SCHOOLS POLICY OR IS SCHOOL POLICY GREATER THAN THE CONSTITUTION and he would have answered cuz i would have repeated over and over and over and over till he answered
camboishawt 1 year ago
Penn State is a quasi-government agency as they are sponsored & funded by taxpayer dollars as well as a taxing agent. They cannot create rules impede with your rights as an American. Including your Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion AND consent is not required of any parties if the parties do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy for their non-electronic communication. See definition of “oral communication,” 18 Pa. Cons. Stat. § 5702.
Coalbunny 1 year ago
This is stupid cuz these guys with the camera are jsut asking over and over"so you said this" which clearly the officers stated to them multiple times, these students are fucking stupid. GTFO..they r so anoyying.
thatsmynamebud1 1 year ago
@thatsmynamebud1 :these students are trying to get a confirming answer "has the 1st amendment been outlawed?". I think the officers are beyond annoying to the extent of deprivation of rights. "You might get arrested"? Sounds like a game to me. 'Flip me a doobie and I'll let you go'? I seen you last week, i didn't do anything then (i was still wasted from the night before), but today I've changed my mind (ACID). Idiots in uniform carrying guns paid with student loans.
SLAVERY v Freedom
mydogR3X 1 year ago
@mydogR3X What...the...fuck...are you talking about? you sound like a robot....i didn't understand one word of that and idk what the hell your trying to tell em lol. not being mean, just curious.
thatsmynamebud1 1 year ago
if you are on PRIVATE property you can be tresspassed, thats about it
WONDOCTORJ 1 year ago
you're trespassing only when you don't follow bullshit rules that violate the bill of rights? come on!
greenhorns99 1 year ago
I like that fact that you sought to defend your rights. However, there is a 'fighting words' clause that prohibits speech that may incite a riot. The not recording audio is bs though.
cav1967 1 year ago
@cav1967 the constitution and bill of rights does not state what you mention here, therefore it is not a law that need be followed. "fighting words clause" is not constitutional, so is not a law
greenhorns99 1 year ago
The supreme court has ruled that in certain cases, it is constitutional to require protesters to register for permits for certain actions. Even if this were not true, you're blaming the officers for university policy. You try to trap them into saying something wrong in order to make them look bad. I'm definitely in favor of free speech, but you're trying to create a free speech problem where there isn't one.
oliverbloom 1 year ago
so funny he is a SECURITY OFFICER FOR A COLLEGE thats a perfect example of a man who failed in high school and couldnt get into a criminal justice program so he became a SECURITY GUARD HAHAHA
DenGual10 1 year ago
I mean if its the universities rules. They kind of are breaking those. The officers are being mostly reasonable it seems
TheNinjarocker4 1 year ago