i remember when i was young....teachers often hit the other kids ..me included...and some of them smelled of drink on a monday morning...what a sweet education i had..oh yes the good old days
the thinking stops when the indoctrination begins, you state in the end. iI see it the other way 'round: the thinking begins when the indoctrination starts. We need education where common sense is taught.
I would not let my children darken the doors of a school. The Parents should be the only ones to educate the children least they forget where they have came from.
Fundamentally flawed logic. My government has gone into debt even after STEALING the money that I've paid into Medicare. These people are thieves and liars, but that does not give any evidence that Medicare is a flawed system. Am I spoiled because my government ripped me off?
You're calling government family through this whole video. That's not what I was taking from it, however. I've been watching this video and beginning to think of statism as a religion.
Well, since you're directly replying to my comment, I'll watch that, but if it's spam, I will come back for you and there will be sanctions. SANCTIONS, I TELL YOU!
You can't separate the two. If you accept principle of non-aggression (morality), it logically follows that you accept a free-market economic position.
Freedom can only exist in the absence of coercion and force. Markets exist where people exchange resources and ideas.
Free markets exist where people exchange resources and ideas without the use of coercion and force. To oppose free-markets is to advocate the use of coercion and force, which is not consistent with his moral position
@KyleSkullz I disagree, a "market" only exist because of scarcity
Best example, music CDs in the 90s was a booming market. Technology and abundance changed that. Today there is no market for "music CDs". Is life better without a CD market? Yes, everything has no value if we shared it, Is this socialist? No, it is reality.
Btw, markets are inherently coercive, parasitical and exploitative. My Econ professor says "eh.. it tis all zabut ze profit regardless if kids are dyzin in zhe streets"
It's how markets work. Consumers demand faster, better and cheaper solutions and the market supplies it because there is demand for it.
"Btw, markets are inherently coercive, parasitical and exploitative."
Nonsense. Markets merely exist where people are exchanging resources and ideas. Freedom exists where coercion and force do not. Free markets exist where people are exchanging resources and ideas without the use of force and coercion.
This is demonstrably false. Although it is shrinking significantly, there is still most definitely a market for cds. People also enjoy paying for digital downloads, on networks like Itunes and Napster. Some musicians like Radiohead and NIN have started their own unique business models.
Technology changes markets, yes... but it's still markets. I recommend you check out Hazlitt's "Economics in one lesson". :-)
And the internet itself, is the closest representation of a free-market that the world has. This is where the world comes to share resources, ideas and information. No matter how much the government tries to regulate it, no matter how many file sharing companies get sued, there is always a new alternative popping up.
Stop being so smug when all you do is labeling me.
I took a class in anthropology to find out if we always did live in scarcity. No we did not. Scarcity caused agriculture to develop. Professor Blaker : 514 487 5460, He will tell you EGALITARIAN societies were far better of then dumb "markets"
Free Market is a contradiction, when are things free in a market? (neoclassical propaganda)
The internet, is not a free market. It the internet. Is a car a dog? apples and oranges
Even if he does. So what? So what?? His facts and theories are nullified?
Well you know what If i can share i will share. Call it socialist or wtv. If i can share anything to anyone I would. (our class donated 20 box of can food this semester, from our wallets)
btw Cro Magnon man looked like us except fossils show they are Taller and Healthier. They lived in Egalitarian societies.
It means he doesn't practice what he preaches. Economic Egalitarianism.
"Well you know what If i can share i will share."
So do I. That doesn't mean I should be able to force you or your professor to share what you have rightfully earned. That is your choice, not mine. ;-)
" They lived in Egalitarian societies."
If you want to live like a primitive man, don't let me stop you. :-)
Since when sharing or playing nice is AKA imprisonment and torture. Btw, sweety I am referring to values that were taught to us in kindergarten. :) something Stef mentioned as well
All you capitalist and socialist are so closed minded. Always a damn left and right paradigm with the all of you.
Btw there were no prisons in Egalitarian Societies. ok Cupcakes...
@jystyle "Sharing" is imprisonment/torture when refusing to do so results in imprisonment, and death if imprisonment is resisted, i.e. taxation. "Sharing everything" is just a crude and simplistic way of endorsing marxism, so I don't see why you think you're some massive freethinker outside the box or beyond left/right. The duration you use "shared" goods for is the duration it's your property, unless anyone can take anything from you at any time. You can't escape the need for property ownership
@LTBL88 Yeah Cro Magnon man and Marx were really tight.
Stop labeling. You are so brainwashed. Taxation is not sharing you moron that is force coercion. Its like saying Raping is like having Sex.
"Kantian" philosophy of Universality. Read some Immanuel Kant. I do not see any wrong in sharing. If i don't hurt anyone its ok. and the reverse is true.
"Polynesians societies were based on sharing."
Btw are you a believer? in the "Invisible Hand of the market" lol if yes hahahah....
Caplan argues that parents spend too much time trying to influence how their kids will turn out as adults. Using research on twins and adopted children, Caplan argues that nature dominates nurture and that parents have little lasting influence on many aspects of their children's lives. He concludes that parents should spend less time and energy trying to influence their children.
Stefan saids that if you change the family then you change the government, but acording to psychohistory families have over time treated their kids better and better so why isn't the government getting better and better?
If you're a multinational corporation, definitely no.
In fact, jobs move much faster than people can. That is actually a problem. Immigration policy itself is, between all nations, a hindrance to employment. You might have to learn another language & will learn another culture. WHY throw in insane barriers to the poorest on top? Why? Just to stifle the labour-market but aid mega-corporations.
I remember when I was young and my parents would take me to disney, when they ran out of money to buy stuff I would say "Just go to the ATM." and they would say they couldn't because they didn't have moneyto get out. I of course didn't understand the concept and would cry and say but look at the other people that just walk up to the ATM and get money! Just go to the ATM ! It gives free money! "God" how dumb I was. & blood isn't always thicker than water, tho my parents always say it is. NOPE.
While I agree with a lot of the ideas presented in this video, Stefane fails to mention the growing wealth gap between the rich and poor at the expense of the middle class and the role governments and corporations played in this transition towards inequality. In case some of you haven't noticed, transnational corporations have undermined the nation-states ability to manage itself. I argue that this is primarily a consequence of the movement to free capital started by Reagan/Thatcher in the 80s.
@publicz indeed Stefan seems to have an idea that corporations without governments can do no wrong, nor can the monopolize a market. His arguments in a video some months ago about this were weak. In a real market, a producer-controlled market, you can fight a corporation only by being one. And not a competing producer: you need to produce their raw materials, not do the same things they do in a cartel. Cartels once formed are pretty much immortal. If you harm all members at once, you win.
@ytgv3fc7 Well for a start Stef doesn't believe there would be corporations without a government. What is a "producer-controlled market"? The market consists of all who are or might produce or consume the product, which producers control all these? Why do you say you can only fight a corporation by being one? Where's your evidence for this? And where is your evidence for non-government supported cartels being "immortal" or even non-ephemeral?
@publicz Stefan discusses the topics you mentioned in other videos and podcasts - this particular video is on the psychological relationship people have with the state. I encourage you to check out his other videos.
Very nice. The government doesn't own a country. It has no justifiable claim over the land. The government simply claims it does and that you are living on its land.
Why do love it or leave it circle-jerkers fail to realise this?
The parallels between the state and the family are fascinating. Thanks for this video. It seems that before we end the coercive state, we must end the coercive family.
i generally agree although i would place the family in higher regard than the state. after, the state didn't bring me into existence quite the same way my parents did
@originalmiller well of course they didn't do it entirely with virtue. no one is perfect. and yeah i'm being a lawyer for my parents right now, lol. but hey it's not like i already existed and then they came to tyrannize me. at least they created me. i mean damn if i have to choose my tyranny, on average, i'd rather be tyrannized by those who created me than by strangers
Nick Rocafella said this to arron russo in that documentary film when they funded women's Lib, they get to tax the mothers income, the mothers and fathers are out at work which breaks up the family so the kids get brainwashed in the schools and tv, they look to the state as family.
I was with you up until the point about education. How else would you propose we get them educated? You cannot trust the majority of parents to do it themselves. This just added a whole other argument to your message without any context.
@casey17p "How else would you propose we get them educated?" You're asking the wrong question. It's the wrong question because it's none of your nor anyone else business, in the first place, how or even if people would choose to educate their children. To me, the question in and of itself is shades of statism. Further, what do we learn now, in K-12, that is of any real value? Reading, writing and arithmetic (that means basic math, by the way)? Anything else? Such things are easily taughtElswhere
@casey17p Also note that his point was specifically about public education. You ask your q as if there were no other alternative, which is obviously false.
@casey17p Hello, I think this is an issue of economics just like most issues are. Before public education children were being educated (95% literacy rates The Transformation of the American Economy, Robert Higgs). Education is something that everybody wants for their children so with things that everybody wants, I think it is within our rational imagination to imagine an education market emerging if the state subsides. Also, social pressure works wonders on parents who are irresponsible. Thanks
While I agree with pretty much everything in the video. However, speaking strictly about rights, parents indeed own the house (provide services and goods to children) and as such, children live on their parents' property and have to thereby obey the rules. As children own themselves, parents may not aggress against them. This is not the same with State because the State did not homestead or voluntarily acquired the property it claims to own or control.
@FlailingJunk all of life is a negotiation, but there are natural hierachies in life at all levels- which is why I have a deference for my parents and elders while in no way dependent on them.
The way to kill the state is simple - change to a private currency. As private currencies like bitcoin gain momentum, it will kill off the state as it kills the US dollar.
It is already a private currency, otherwise, why would the state have debts? Debts to who? To a privately own banking cartel! Your notion that the dollar is a US currency is wrong, its the feds paper system and the US borrows it from the feds at interest. Again if it would be US property, it would not need to be loaned, it would be issued interest free and there wouldnt be a national debt!
@dutchtruthseeker No the Fed Notes not a private currency at all. The Federal Reserve was and is a creation of Congress and has government created laws forcing people to use their paper. The government forces you to pay taxes with them. That's not private. The profits from the system are private, but the theft mechanism itself is public. Jesus...I shouldn't have had to explain that...
@MoneyIsSilver "The Federal Reserve was and is a creation of Congress and has government created laws forcing people to use their paper."
By congress scumbags that where working for the interest of a privately own banking cartel, not the public. And if the public where forces to use their paper, then where comes public into play. "Their paper" like in... not public!
The government is working for the money interests of privately owned coorperations, that are owned by the elites. Not the public!
@MaxStirner4Lyfe Exactly, it would always work for the money interests, because they are bound to a money system to, to survive. Its self interest to do so in a system where money is needed to stay alive!
So what would be the point to change one privately owned currency into another, as to what mr. moneyissilver is proposing?
SO change the old currency that is controlled by private interest, into a new one, you still end up being controlled by the elites.
@dutchtruthseeker It's still a government currency - what's your point? Are you trying to compare Federal Reserve Notes as something completely private? They're not. All government is private with that logic since its all private individuals that reap the benefit of the theft.
@MoneyIsSilver My point is, I dont see any changes when you change one privately owned currency, used publicly, under the tread of force, by another. So, you 'kill the gov.', then what? Gov. working for the elites, what will change if these elites can create a new one? Remember, gov. employees are ppl to, and are bound to money for survival. So the elites just buy off other ppl to do their bidding again, but only under an other name, with an other currency, which THEY still control. No change!
@dutchtruthseeker You're fucking stupid. If you can't see the difference between a Federal Reserve Note that has no value of its own but needs the government to start wars globally to force its use, and something of value like silver or bitcoins that needs no government force to be circulated - then you are just stupid idiot fuck. Kill yourself.
@MoneyIsSilver Judging by your reply i deeply feel threatened by YOU! So now you force me to follow your idea or i should kill myself. You are a arrogant piece of shit that THINKS he know something. Your ego is so large, its blocking your own humanity! Problem is, you cant see past your own beliefs and threaten every one that is question your BELIEFS.
BELIEF ME OR DIE, that what i taste from you, you are a dangerous asshole, and can only talk down to other because you THINK your better.
@MoneyIsSilver "something of value like silver or bitcoins"
And here your wrong, you THINK it has value, you belief it, i dont! And for that i should die? You are worse that a religious fanatic.
For me, it has no VALUE, its the exact same for me then the EURO, which i am forced to use now! The only thing that changes for me is the name. IT has no real value, for me. The only thing that has value, is LIFE!
I think that ppl that value pretty stones like you do, are simple minded primitives.
@dutchtruthseeker You're getting dumber by the minute. Silver has value even to you, jackass - you couldn't be writing these stupid comments without it cause your keyboard uses silver. Again, you're a fuckin idiot.
@MoneyIsSilver Look silverback is drumming his chest again, look at the empty bluf.
Apples and peers! Sure silver is useful, but to me it has no intrinsic value. Its just a form of metal, like gold, it has good properties for space travel for ex., thus useful, but no real value.
Its just a belief system you chose to belief in, And i dont! And you condemn who does not belief in what you belief. You do the exact same as a priest that threaten with hell if i dont belief in what he beliefs.
Ohhh thats a bloody good argument against isnt it. Hmm, but that is mainly down to having to bail out banks and provide stimulus programs caused by the free market. So, thats the free markets fault, plus debt is not really that big a problem. Britain has had debt for 60 years from WW2, or do you think Government should simply say sorry rest of the free world no money to fight Hitler, tough titties, we just can't afford to go into a little bit of debt.
For foreigners and the local rich yes, but my cousin was middle class. For millions and millions who live in poverty medicine just isnt an option, its fucked up when youre in a situation where you have to choose between saving your son or being able to pay for something as simple as rent. That is a choice that someone in a welfare state never has to make.
Sure, but that's life. Deal with it. If you can't afford something, that doesn't give you the right to steal it from someone else. Welfare states don't solve that problem either. To believe so is to believe that government can suspend reality. That's called magic.
That is horrible. Can I ask if you had to watch someone die and you had the cure would you give it him or would you tell him sorry but human life is worth x amount of dollars. Government helps as many as it can because thats what being human is to show sympathy and empathy towards our fellow man, to help not kill.
Though if it was you I bet you would want help wouldnt you? Or would you graciously accept death as hey its life deal with it Is that your opinion on the holocaust too
Lol, you're epitomizing the tantrum throwing, selfish mentality that Stef exposed in this video. You might want to watch it again, and again, and again and keep watching it until you realize that the ridiculous caricature you just made of me is simply you evading the real issues. Sure didn't take long for you to break down like this.
I have watched it like 20 times when replying. I believe Stef is wrong, it is not wrong at all to throw a "tantrum", the welfare state is not a privelege it is a human right worth fighting for. And conversely then when you try to overthrown the state are you surely not throwing a temper tantrum yourself? Be it violent or not? So in fact hes being rather hypocritical
@MrMelvincommie You don't have a right, human or otherwise, to my property or body, therefore you are wrong about the welfare state. It's quite simple: self ownership and allodial property rights coupled with the non-aggression principle.
Stefan, although you make some fantastic observations do you not think that those who control the gov (from 'above' it) deliberately model the gov on this kind of family relationship so that we end up relating to it and interacting with it in *precisely* that way?
Because this 5yo relationship to parents is something we all have within us, therefore as a basis for controlling humanity it's perfect b/c the template is already hard wired within us - all they have to do is arrest our development!
I think you had to go one step further and say that if you want a healthy country or healthy world you should first be a healthy individual.
This is basicly what meditation gurus are saying to the west, if you want any change you have to start at yourself and you will influence your family and then families will influence a society and societies infuence eachother.
It is the law of one, everything is connected but we don't see it often times.
This is ridiculous, the state has been used as a force for evil, but the world is better off with it. If the state is so evil and useless then how did it even come about in the first place? Without a state to provide merit and public goods then they would be underconsumed and not provided by the free market, people who cant help themselves will simply starve to death or die from whatever disease they have. Of course to an anarchist thats completely fair because at least theyre free, free to die.
@MrMelvincommie Oh no, the same process that delivers Doritos, laundry detergent, plasma screen televisions, books, chairs, lamps, video games, and silverware can't be trusted with the more important things in life. How did Nazism come about? Just because something exists is not evidence of its inherent usefulness. You say it wouldn't be provided on a free market, which may be false because removing the state frees up capital. Don't use America as evidence, it isn't free market.
@MrMelvincommie Better off with the state? I'd like to ask the 300 million dead in the last century that question but I can't because statism killed them all. If you think that these murders were all justified then I'm very scared of you. I fear the state and all those who support it, I think anyone who truly believes in human rights should be terrified of them and know that the state is their mortal enemy.
hmm very nice use of emotion to make me sound like a monster, but is it not states that fund the World Food Program or World Health Organisation who have saved millions and millions of lives, raised standards of living and created futures for those without a hope. Now if you really think that it is evil to help those in need who dont have the ability to save themselves, then truly it is not you who should be feared? PS the watchman state protects your rights from other people
@MrMelvincommie But how has the state performed the tasks you claim? Murdered millions and stolen from the survivors under the threat of imprisonment. People care about the poor not the state as an entity, people demand the state take care of the poor but how does the state do this? It takes 60% of our earnings through direct and indirect taxes, consumes most of it and dishes out very little inefficiently. A voluntary organisation would be better not one based on theft surely?
Hmm that is a good argument but vountary are just that, they rely on the kindness and generosity of others, something which is certainly lacking in most people. The voluntary organisations you speak of actually rely on over 50% of their funding from the state. I live in the UK, in my country I pay taxes for a health care service which is superior to any market based one except Japan, all the best ones are provided by you guessed it the state, they provide for more for less.
Check the rankings man, the majority are welfare states, eg 1 is France Singapore is 7. It is not a complete failure, my cousin died of cancer in India because he couldn't afford the drugs to treat it, this wasn't terminal cancer. His parents couldnt even afford the painkillers to ease his suffering. They sold everything they had to cover the medical bills. In the UK the state would have provided that treatment free of charge :/
Wrong again commie. The most recent rankings place Singapore on top. France is largely privatized as well, with over 90% of the population purchasing private health care.
And no, the state can't provide ANYTHING free of charge.
@MrMelvincommie It's one of those things where people compare the NHS to the American system and say that the American system is representative of the "free market." In reality, America spends about the same percentage per capita GDP on health care as many "socialist" countries. What plagues the American system is restriction; restriction of supply of doctors, of medicine, and insurance options (i.e., not free market). Also Americans live less healthy lifestyles.
Again I did not mention America, if you look at the rankings for best healthcare systems in the world the majority are ones from welfare states. The worse ones are ones in which the Government is either non-existent or has little intervention in the market.
@MrMelvincommie There is no truly free market health system on Earth to compare it with as they are all heavily regulated and the UK is one of the worst in Europe, ask any German if they'd have surgery in a UK hospital, they'll cringe. Voluntary is not voluntary if it's subsidised by theft, without the states existence then we'd have voluntary. Stefan teaches philosophy for free, I use my knowledge of psychology to help the depressed for free, if you care about the poor what do you do to help?
That is fantastic that you do that, its nice to see that some people will help others, I myself am a student I learn skills to serve the people I also volunteer at my local charity shop, its little I know. If you look at the ranking for best healthcare systems the majority come from welfare states. Plus ask someone from Sudan where hed prefer to get treatment hell say UK everytime. Does it matter it I help personally, thats not a selfless act, taxes help the poor just as much.
@MrMelvincommie Taxes do however have the negative effect of creating the poor too unfortunately. Before the introduction of the Welfare State (dole lol) England was actually reducing the poverty line by about 1 or 2% every year through a thriving free market enterprise. The introduction of the dole lowered the middle class earnings into the working class and forced poverty on our nation. Now we have a huge dependent class many of whom have never worked and don't intend to, sad really.
Yes if taxes are too high there is little incentive for enterprise and thus growth slows down etc tec. That was down to the introduction of supply side economics in this case brought about by the Government provision of education which allowed greater social mobility and growth and also from improved regulations which also helped boost productivity and improve the standard of living. Plus the standard of living has only really advanced incredibly post 1945 to such a huge extent.
@MrMelvincommie It's evil to coerce people to fund them via taxes. And no, it is not "me" or anyone who opposes such corrcion who needs to be feared. It is do-gooder nutcases who try and coerce you for your - or someone else's - nebulous "own good".
I am not coerced, I freely choose to belong to the state and not because I am brainwashed.Though if the state can brainwash me? Then how are you sure that you yourself are not being brainwashed to believe it is evil? I logically believe in the state. I believe in helping people, but I am one man, my resources are limited, but pooled together they can used more effeciently and help more people. Im sorry if I wish to help my common man whereas you it seems you would rather leave him be
@shinom0ri Just browse through his channel. Stef has proposed solutions in many video's as well as in books on his site. It's easier to convey 1 idea per video than try to cram the entire range of philosophical idea's into one package.
@shinom0ri I think you've misunderstood the problem. The point Stef is making is if parents "rationalize" their actions to their children by using force or any other means besides reason, then children will grow up believing societies should be run the same way. Politics currently leverage this type of parenting mentality to create a new generation of adults (or "children of the state"). The solution is then to alter parenting to adopt more reasoning to raise future state-resistant adults.
Yes, insightful, but unfortunately the same population which can hardly be trusted with the vote can neither be trusted with a total free market society.
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youneekk 7 months ago
Humanity as a whole, including myself are worthless meat sacks and if not exterminated outright, deserve to be farmed. I look forward to my end.
rockman1969 8 months ago
@rockman1969 Seek psychiatric help to deal with the child abuse you've experienced.
Motherlandpluto 8 months ago 3
@rockman1969 Doing the propaganda for the NWO? The worthless are the one that govern us, The awful part is that many humans have given up.
Louaner 1 week ago
awesome vid.
vllmer 8 months ago
i remember when i was young....teachers often hit the other kids ..me included...and some of them smelled of drink on a monday morning...what a sweet education i had..oh yes the good old days
ShitJitsu 9 months ago
Brilliant! I loved it. So very much on the spot.
heikophilo 9 months ago 2
the thinking stops when the indoctrination begins, you state in the end. iI see it the other way 'round: the thinking begins when the indoctrination starts. We need education where common sense is taught.
MartijndeGraaf1001 9 months ago
I would not let my children darken the doors of a school. The Parents should be the only ones to educate the children least they forget where they have came from.
btigtime2 9 months ago
Fundamentally flawed logic. My government has gone into debt even after STEALING the money that I've paid into Medicare. These people are thieves and liars, but that does not give any evidence that Medicare is a flawed system. Am I spoiled because my government ripped me off?
Lunarwill 9 months ago 2
we are programmed indeed. How do we change the programming... check: desteniiprocess
MartijndeGraaf1001 9 months ago
Stefbot, couldn't have said it better myself. thx for posting!!
lindabebe835 9 months ago 2
nice sin city reference at 2:37
tarnationstation 9 months ago
This is sad but true.
Paralyt1c 9 months ago
You're calling government family through this whole video. That's not what I was taking from it, however. I've been watching this video and beginning to think of statism as a religion.
TheCeejReturns 9 months ago
@TheCeejReturns
you might enjoy this...
watch?v=85bRel33Wd8 :-)
DaleFischerK 9 months ago
@DaleFischerK
Well, since you're directly replying to my comment, I'll watch that, but if it's spam, I will come back for you and there will be sanctions. SANCTIONS, I TELL YOU!
TheCeejReturns 9 months ago
@TheCeejReturns
lol, not spam, i swear. :-)
It shows the parallels between statism and religion.
DaleFischerK 9 months ago
@DaleFischerK
That's like saying, "the parallels between Christianity and religion."
TheCeejReturns 9 months ago
I got to say stef knows best when it comes to morality!
But i still disagree strongly on his views of Economics but morality ;) is a good start
jystyle 9 months ago
@jystyle
You can't separate the two. If you accept principle of non-aggression (morality), it logically follows that you accept a free-market economic position.
Freedom can only exist in the absence of coercion and force. Markets exist where people exchange resources and ideas.
Free markets exist where people exchange resources and ideas without the use of coercion and force. To oppose free-markets is to advocate the use of coercion and force, which is not consistent with his moral position
KyleSkullz 9 months ago
@KyleSkullz I disagree, a "market" only exist because of scarcity
Best example, music CDs in the 90s was a booming market. Technology and abundance changed that. Today there is no market for "music CDs". Is life better without a CD market? Yes, everything has no value if we shared it, Is this socialist? No, it is reality.
Btw, markets are inherently coercive, parasitical and exploitative. My Econ professor says "eh.. it tis all zabut ze profit regardless if kids are dyzin in zhe streets"
jystyle 9 months ago
@jystyle
"No, it is reality."
It's how markets work. Consumers demand faster, better and cheaper solutions and the market supplies it because there is demand for it.
"Btw, markets are inherently coercive, parasitical and exploitative."
Nonsense. Markets merely exist where people are exchanging resources and ideas. Freedom exists where coercion and force do not. Free markets exist where people are exchanging resources and ideas without the use of force and coercion.
KyleSkullz 9 months ago 3
@jystyle
Your cd example only demonstrates how markets work. Yes, old models die and get replaced with newer, better, more efficient ones. :-)
"markets are inherently coercive"
I think you need to look up the definition of coercive.
TheCapitalistdog 9 months ago 2
@jystyle
"Today there is no market for "music CDs"."
This is demonstrably false. Although it is shrinking significantly, there is still most definitely a market for cds. People also enjoy paying for digital downloads, on networks like Itunes and Napster. Some musicians like Radiohead and NIN have started their own unique business models.
Technology changes markets, yes... but it's still markets. I recommend you check out Hazlitt's "Economics in one lesson". :-)
TheCapitalistdog 9 months ago 4
@jystyle
And the internet itself, is the closest representation of a free-market that the world has. This is where the world comes to share resources, ideas and information. No matter how much the government tries to regulate it, no matter how many file sharing companies get sued, there is always a new alternative popping up.
That's free-markets, not a Zeitgeist fantasy. :-)
TheCapitalistdog 9 months ago
@TheCapitalistdog
Stop being so smug when all you do is labeling me.
I took a class in anthropology to find out if we always did live in scarcity. No we did not. Scarcity caused agriculture to develop. Professor Blaker : 514 487 5460, He will tell you EGALITARIAN societies were far better of then dumb "markets"
Free Market is a contradiction, when are things free in a market? (neoclassical propaganda)
The internet, is not a free market. It the internet. Is a car a dog? apples and oranges
jystyle 9 months ago
@jystyle
You didn't respond to any of my points. Have your professor call stefan and debate and see what happens. :-)
"Free Market is a contradiction"
define a free-market.
TheCapitalistdog 9 months ago
@jystyle
" Professor Blaker : 514 487 5460, He will tell you EGALITARIAN societies were far better"
I bet your professor makes more money than I do. :-)
TheCapitalistdog 9 months ago
@TheCapitalistdog "I bet your professor makes more money than I do."
No doubt. And if some college offered him more money or better benefits, he'd move.
That professor is a CAPITALIST!
CurtHowland 9 months ago
@TheCapitalistdog Stop being so presumptuous.
Even if he does. So what? So what?? His facts and theories are nullified?
Well you know what If i can share i will share. Call it socialist or wtv. If i can share anything to anyone I would. (our class donated 20 box of can food this semester, from our wallets)
btw Cro Magnon man looked like us except fossils show they are Taller and Healthier. They lived in Egalitarian societies.
jystyle 9 months ago
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@jystyle
"Even if he does. So what? So what??"
It means he doesn't practice what he preaches. Economic Egalitarianism.
"Well you know what If i can share i will share."
So do I. That doesn't mean I should be able to force you or your professor to share what you have rightfully earned. That is your choice, not mine. ;-)
" They lived in Egalitarian societies."
If you want to live like a primitive man, don't let me stop you. :-)
TheCapitalistdog 9 months ago
@jystyle Want to share? Great - just don't force everyone else to share under threat of imprisonment and death if the imprisonment is resisted
LTBL88 9 months ago
@LTBL88
Since when sharing or playing nice is AKA imprisonment and torture. Btw, sweety I am referring to values that were taught to us in kindergarten. :) something Stef mentioned as well
All you capitalist and socialist are so closed minded. Always a damn left and right paradigm with the all of you.
Btw there were no prisons in Egalitarian Societies. ok Cupcakes...
jystyle 9 months ago
@jystyle "Sharing" is imprisonment/torture when refusing to do so results in imprisonment, and death if imprisonment is resisted, i.e. taxation. "Sharing everything" is just a crude and simplistic way of endorsing marxism, so I don't see why you think you're some massive freethinker outside the box or beyond left/right. The duration you use "shared" goods for is the duration it's your property, unless anyone can take anything from you at any time. You can't escape the need for property ownership
LTBL88 9 months ago
@LTBL88 Yeah Cro Magnon man and Marx were really tight.
Stop labeling. You are so brainwashed. Taxation is not sharing you moron that is force coercion. Its like saying Raping is like having Sex.
"Kantian" philosophy of Universality. Read some Immanuel Kant. I do not see any wrong in sharing. If i don't hurt anyone its ok. and the reverse is true.
"Polynesians societies were based on sharing."
Btw are you a believer? in the "Invisible Hand of the market" lol if yes hahahah....
jystyle 9 months ago
watch?v=jlc6FSfuwss
A little counter balance.
safeinsuburbia 9 months ago
George Mason University:
Caplan argues that parents spend too much time trying to influence how their kids will turn out as adults. Using research on twins and adopted children, Caplan argues that nature dominates nurture and that parents have little lasting influence on many aspects of their children's lives. He concludes that parents should spend less time and energy trying to influence their children.
safeinsuburbia 9 months ago
Good presentation. When do we hear about the Unicorns? I like Unicorn stories.
Now, where are your twin studies to back it up? Or was this a "mind experiment"?
Science, statistics, objective reasoning. Remember those, philosopher?
Continued....
safeinsuburbia 9 months ago
“The future of humanity passes by way of the family.” - Pope John Paul II
scary shit
Stereotuna 9 months ago
Awesome!
DrPhallus 9 months ago
Stefan saids that if you change the family then you change the government, but acording to psychohistory families have over time treated their kids better and better so why isn't the government getting better and better?
DaveElectric 9 months ago
@DaveElectric
Would you prefer living under the government of the US 100 years ago?
FlailingJunk 9 months ago
@FlailingJunk Yes, but I wouldn't want to live under a family that lived 100 years ago. Thus the flaw in Stef's logic.
DaveElectric 9 months ago
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@DaveElectric
You know how I know that you are a white man?
FlailingJunk 9 months ago
I call VIRAL!
furyofbongos 9 months ago
noone talks about interest free debt? isnt that the bigger problem
TOURNAMENTPOKER 9 months ago
what about the banking system?
TOURNAMENTPOKER 9 months ago
Nice video Stef you are doing really good work Thank you.
madmikeof74 9 months ago
crystal clear.
erbeeflower 9 months ago
Why is it so hard to get people to end questions with question marks?
Seriously though good video
sharperguy 9 months ago
"It's fairly hard to leave the country"
If you're poor, yes.
If you're rich, no.
If you're a multinational corporation, definitely no.
In fact, jobs move much faster than people can. That is actually a problem. Immigration policy itself is, between all nations, a hindrance to employment. You might have to learn another language & will learn another culture. WHY throw in insane barriers to the poorest on top? Why? Just to stifle the labour-market but aid mega-corporations.
ytgv3fc7 9 months ago in playlist 1 2011 05may 18 2
I remember when I was young and my parents would take me to disney, when they ran out of money to buy stuff I would say "Just go to the ATM." and they would say they couldn't because they didn't have moneyto get out. I of course didn't understand the concept and would cry and say but look at the other people that just walk up to the ATM and get money! Just go to the ATM ! It gives free money! "God" how dumb I was. & blood isn't always thicker than water, tho my parents always say it is. NOPE.
frsupermoon 9 months ago 19
@sephethus haha, in 6 mins no less!
stefbot 9 months ago 13
Is that a TWISTED SISTER PIN on your UNIFORM?!!
TotalAnomy 9 months ago
While I agree with a lot of the ideas presented in this video, Stefane fails to mention the growing wealth gap between the rich and poor at the expense of the middle class and the role governments and corporations played in this transition towards inequality. In case some of you haven't noticed, transnational corporations have undermined the nation-states ability to manage itself. I argue that this is primarily a consequence of the movement to free capital started by Reagan/Thatcher in the 80s.
publicz 9 months ago
@publicz indeed Stefan seems to have an idea that corporations without governments can do no wrong, nor can the monopolize a market. His arguments in a video some months ago about this were weak. In a real market, a producer-controlled market, you can fight a corporation only by being one. And not a competing producer: you need to produce their raw materials, not do the same things they do in a cartel. Cartels once formed are pretty much immortal. If you harm all members at once, you win.
ytgv3fc7 9 months ago in playlist 1 2011 05may 18
@ytgv3fc7 Well for a start Stef doesn't believe there would be corporations without a government. What is a "producer-controlled market"? The market consists of all who are or might produce or consume the product, which producers control all these? Why do you say you can only fight a corporation by being one? Where's your evidence for this? And where is your evidence for non-government supported cartels being "immortal" or even non-ephemeral?
newperve 9 months ago
@publicz Stefan discusses the topics you mentioned in other videos and podcasts - this particular video is on the psychological relationship people have with the state. I encourage you to check out his other videos.
clemonsx90 9 months ago
Stefan, you're brilliant. Excellent video. Keep it up.
TrokaAndTheMind 9 months ago
@misesghost Do you think you're teaching me something?
MoneyIsSilver 9 months ago
Very nice. The government doesn't own a country. It has no justifiable claim over the land. The government simply claims it does and that you are living on its land.
Why do love it or leave it circle-jerkers fail to realise this?
JakkaLakkaDingDing 9 months ago
Very good comparison, except the fact that I don't pay for my parent's salary but I pay the government to run the country.
rathikari 9 months ago
Excellent
MrDorkusMaximus 9 months ago
As of now 11 children watched this video.
carcabe 9 months ago
Great video -- concise, to the point and all true!
talakala 9 months ago
Brilliant!
weaver613moongypsy 9 months ago
Nice observation. My parents are normal, they are also screwed, this is very similar to my government.
aghoranathi 9 months ago
almost missed this video because it didn't have your face as a thumbnail!!
ZARBONZARBON 9 months ago
Govt is the Father and you are the unwanted stepchild.
defgill 9 months ago
As usual, brilliant.
RuddODragonFear 9 months ago
The parallels between the state and the family are fascinating. Thanks for this video. It seems that before we end the coercive state, we must end the coercive family.
ericfontainejazz 9 months ago
THERES ALOT OF PALPABLE TRUTH IN WAT WAS JUST SAID... IM GLAD HE PUTS IT ALL INTO WORDS FOR ME...
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deadindisguise 9 months ago
speechless
Romie82o 9 months ago
i generally agree although i would place the family in higher regard than the state. after, the state didn't bring me into existence quite the same way my parents did
dmsthneez 9 months ago
@dmsthneez I also hope your family, with virtue earned your affection in ways that the state never could.
originalmiller 9 months ago
@originalmiller well of course they didn't do it entirely with virtue. no one is perfect. and yeah i'm being a lawyer for my parents right now, lol. but hey it's not like i already existed and then they came to tyrannize me. at least they created me. i mean damn if i have to choose my tyranny, on average, i'd rather be tyrannized by those who created me than by strangers
dmsthneez 9 months ago
Don't forget Big Brother!
kensei85 9 months ago 2
Nick Rocafella said this to arron russo in that documentary film when they funded women's Lib, they get to tax the mothers income, the mothers and fathers are out at work which breaks up the family so the kids get brainwashed in the schools and tv, they look to the state as family.
UrharRar 9 months ago
I was with you up until the point about education. How else would you propose we get them educated? You cannot trust the majority of parents to do it themselves. This just added a whole other argument to your message without any context.
casey17p 9 months ago
@casey17p "How else would you propose we get them educated?" You're asking the wrong question. It's the wrong question because it's none of your nor anyone else business, in the first place, how or even if people would choose to educate their children. To me, the question in and of itself is shades of statism. Further, what do we learn now, in K-12, that is of any real value? Reading, writing and arithmetic (that means basic math, by the way)? Anything else? Such things are easily taughtElswhere
regresseur 9 months ago
@casey17p Also note that his point was specifically about public education. You ask your q as if there were no other alternative, which is obviously false.
regresseur 9 months ago
@casey17p Hello, I think this is an issue of economics just like most issues are. Before public education children were being educated (95% literacy rates The Transformation of the American Economy, Robert Higgs). Education is something that everybody wants for their children so with things that everybody wants, I think it is within our rational imagination to imagine an education market emerging if the state subsides. Also, social pressure works wonders on parents who are irresponsible. Thanks
originalmiller 9 months ago
the state as, "family"?
The State is GOD!
rickster348 9 months ago
While I agree with pretty much everything in the video. However, speaking strictly about rights, parents indeed own the house (provide services and goods to children) and as such, children live on their parents' property and have to thereby obey the rules. As children own themselves, parents may not aggress against them. This is not the same with State because the State did not homestead or voluntarily acquired the property it claims to own or control.
rumco 9 months ago
@rumco
If you chose to have kids its your responsibility to reason and negotiate with them, not order them around.
FlailingJunk 9 months ago 23
@FlailingJunk I entirely agree. I was merely explaining the rights concept behind it regardless of morality, social norms etc.
rumco 9 months ago
@rumco
A child who you chose to create is not the same as an adult who has chosen to come onto your property.
FlailingJunk 9 months ago
@FlailingJunk What about rape?
rumco 9 months ago
@rumco
This is me not taking you seriously.
FlailingJunk 9 months ago
@FlailingJunk all of life is a negotiation, but there are natural hierachies in life at all levels- which is why I have a deference for my parents and elders while in no way dependent on them.
kfrb1 9 months ago
@FlailingJunk amen to that!
stefbot 9 months ago
Great video....
TheCapitalistdog 9 months ago
The way to kill the state is simple - change to a private currency. As private currencies like bitcoin gain momentum, it will kill off the state as it kills the US dollar.
MoneyIsSilver 9 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver "change to a private currency"
It is already a private currency, otherwise, why would the state have debts? Debts to who? To a privately own banking cartel! Your notion that the dollar is a US currency is wrong, its the feds paper system and the US borrows it from the feds at interest. Again if it would be US property, it would not need to be loaned, it would be issued interest free and there wouldnt be a national debt!
dutchtruthseeker 9 months ago
@dutchtruthseeker No the Fed Notes not a private currency at all. The Federal Reserve was and is a creation of Congress and has government created laws forcing people to use their paper. The government forces you to pay taxes with them. That's not private. The profits from the system are private, but the theft mechanism itself is public. Jesus...I shouldn't have had to explain that...
MoneyIsSilver 9 months ago 16
@MoneyIsSilver "The Federal Reserve was and is a creation of Congress and has government created laws forcing people to use their paper."
By congress scumbags that where working for the interest of a privately own banking cartel, not the public. And if the public where forces to use their paper, then where comes public into play. "Their paper" like in... not public!
The government is working for the money interests of privately owned coorperations, that are owned by the elites. Not the public!
dutchtruthseeker 9 months ago
@dutchtruthseeker Why would it work for anyone else?
MaxStirner4Lyfe 9 months ago
@MaxStirner4Lyfe Exactly, it would always work for the money interests, because they are bound to a money system to, to survive. Its self interest to do so in a system where money is needed to stay alive!
So what would be the point to change one privately owned currency into another, as to what mr. moneyissilver is proposing?
SO change the old currency that is controlled by private interest, into a new one, you still end up being controlled by the elites.
dutchtruthseeker 9 months ago
@dutchtruthseeker It's still a government currency - what's your point? Are you trying to compare Federal Reserve Notes as something completely private? They're not. All government is private with that logic since its all private individuals that reap the benefit of the theft.
MoneyIsSilver 9 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver My point is, I dont see any changes when you change one privately owned currency, used publicly, under the tread of force, by another. So, you 'kill the gov.', then what? Gov. working for the elites, what will change if these elites can create a new one? Remember, gov. employees are ppl to, and are bound to money for survival. So the elites just buy off other ppl to do their bidding again, but only under an other name, with an other currency, which THEY still control. No change!
dutchtruthseeker 9 months ago
@dutchtruthseeker You're fucking stupid. If you can't see the difference between a Federal Reserve Note that has no value of its own but needs the government to start wars globally to force its use, and something of value like silver or bitcoins that needs no government force to be circulated - then you are just stupid idiot fuck. Kill yourself.
MoneyIsSilver 9 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver Judging by your reply i deeply feel threatened by YOU! So now you force me to follow your idea or i should kill myself. You are a arrogant piece of shit that THINKS he know something. Your ego is so large, its blocking your own humanity! Problem is, you cant see past your own beliefs and threaten every one that is question your BELIEFS.
BELIEF ME OR DIE, that what i taste from you, you are a dangerous asshole, and can only talk down to other because you THINK your better.
dutchtruthseeker 9 months ago
@dutchtruthseeker I'm glad you feel threatened, retard.
MoneyIsSilver 9 months ago
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@MoneyIsSilver
You're fucking stupid.
you are just stupid idiot fuck.
Kill yourself.
I'm glad you feel threatened, retard.
You're getting dumber by the minute
Again, you're a fuckin idiot.
Look at the way you talk to ppl you dont even know, and who dont belief in what you belief.
You have a superior complex, your ego is blocking my sun! You have serious problems dude, seek help, seriously!
dutchtruthseeker 9 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver "something of value like silver or bitcoins"
And here your wrong, you THINK it has value, you belief it, i dont! And for that i should die? You are worse that a religious fanatic.
For me, it has no VALUE, its the exact same for me then the EURO, which i am forced to use now! The only thing that changes for me is the name. IT has no real value, for me. The only thing that has value, is LIFE!
I think that ppl that value pretty stones like you do, are simple minded primitives.
dutchtruthseeker 9 months ago
@dutchtruthseeker You're getting dumber by the minute. Silver has value even to you, jackass - you couldn't be writing these stupid comments without it cause your keyboard uses silver. Again, you're a fuckin idiot.
MoneyIsSilver 9 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver Look silverback is drumming his chest again, look at the empty bluf.
Apples and peers! Sure silver is useful, but to me it has no intrinsic value. Its just a form of metal, like gold, it has good properties for space travel for ex., thus useful, but no real value.
Its just a belief system you chose to belief in, And i dont! And you condemn who does not belief in what you belief. You do the exact same as a priest that threaten with hell if i dont belief in what he beliefs.
dutchtruthseeker 9 months ago
very true
TokenPictures111 9 months ago
Emmanuel Todd wrote a book on family structure as forming the basis of the type of government countries adopt.
burlearth 9 months ago
@blapgat
Ohhh thats a bloody good argument against isnt it. Hmm, but that is mainly down to having to bail out banks and provide stimulus programs caused by the free market. So, thats the free markets fault, plus debt is not really that big a problem. Britain has had debt for 60 years from WW2, or do you think Government should simply say sorry rest of the free world no money to fight Hitler, tough titties, we just can't afford to go into a little bit of debt.
MrMelvincommie 9 months ago
@blapgat
For foreigners and the local rich yes, but my cousin was middle class. For millions and millions who live in poverty medicine just isnt an option, its fucked up when youre in a situation where you have to choose between saving your son or being able to pay for something as simple as rent. That is a choice that someone in a welfare state never has to make.
MrMelvincommie 9 months ago
@MrMelvincommie
"its fucked up when"
Sure, but that's life. Deal with it. If you can't afford something, that doesn't give you the right to steal it from someone else. Welfare states don't solve that problem either. To believe so is to believe that government can suspend reality. That's called magic.
17Spartacus76 9 months ago
@17Spartacus76
That is horrible. Can I ask if you had to watch someone die and you had the cure would you give it him or would you tell him sorry but human life is worth x amount of dollars. Government helps as many as it can because thats what being human is to show sympathy and empathy towards our fellow man, to help not kill.
Though if it was you I bet you would want help wouldnt you? Or would you graciously accept death as hey its life deal with it Is that your opinion on the holocaust too
MrMelvincommie 9 months ago
@MrMelvincommie
Lol, you're epitomizing the tantrum throwing, selfish mentality that Stef exposed in this video. You might want to watch it again, and again, and again and keep watching it until you realize that the ridiculous caricature you just made of me is simply you evading the real issues. Sure didn't take long for you to break down like this.
17Spartacus76 9 months ago
@17Spartacus76
I have watched it like 20 times when replying. I believe Stef is wrong, it is not wrong at all to throw a "tantrum", the welfare state is not a privelege it is a human right worth fighting for. And conversely then when you try to overthrown the state are you surely not throwing a temper tantrum yourself? Be it violent or not? So in fact hes being rather hypocritical
MrMelvincommie 9 months ago
@MrMelvincommie You don't have a right, human or otherwise, to my property or body, therefore you are wrong about the welfare state. It's quite simple: self ownership and allodial property rights coupled with the non-aggression principle.
ryanswan0 9 months ago
@MrMelvincommie
"the welfare state is not a privelege it is a human right worth fighting for"
LMAO! You have a RIGHT to other people's stuff?
You're not a child, you're just a run of the mill criminal.
17Spartacus76 9 months ago
@17Spartacus76 I don't think anyone is going to listen to you if you call them a criminal so what is your purpose?
originalmiller 9 months ago
@originalmiller
A is A
17Spartacus76 9 months ago
@blapgat
To help those at the bottom, the ones which the free market ignores.
MrMelvincommie 9 months ago
Stefan, although you make some fantastic observations do you not think that those who control the gov (from 'above' it) deliberately model the gov on this kind of family relationship so that we end up relating to it and interacting with it in *precisely* that way?
Because this 5yo relationship to parents is something we all have within us, therefore as a basis for controlling humanity it's perfect b/c the template is already hard wired within us - all they have to do is arrest our development!
theawecabinet 9 months ago
Another great one Stef. Thanks so much
daizee106 9 months ago
Very good... thank you so mutch!!!
MrGromli 9 months ago
I think you had to go one step further and say that if you want a healthy country or healthy world you should first be a healthy individual.
This is basicly what meditation gurus are saying to the west, if you want any change you have to start at yourself and you will influence your family and then families will influence a society and societies infuence eachother.
It is the law of one, everything is connected but we don't see it often times.
colloredbrothers 9 months ago
Yes yes and yes. I wish more people would notice these parallels.
LiberAnarchy 9 months ago
I love it when people give examples to illustrate abstractions.
TackleTheWorld 9 months ago
lets privatise everything!!!! integrate market and society absolutely!!! I want to wake up in tesco on a paved planet, yay.
meadowsirl 9 months ago
This is ridiculous, the state has been used as a force for evil, but the world is better off with it. If the state is so evil and useless then how did it even come about in the first place? Without a state to provide merit and public goods then they would be underconsumed and not provided by the free market, people who cant help themselves will simply starve to death or die from whatever disease they have. Of course to an anarchist thats completely fair because at least theyre free, free to die.
MrMelvincommie 9 months ago
@MrMelvincommie Oh no, the same process that delivers Doritos, laundry detergent, plasma screen televisions, books, chairs, lamps, video games, and silverware can't be trusted with the more important things in life. How did Nazism come about? Just because something exists is not evidence of its inherent usefulness. You say it wouldn't be provided on a free market, which may be false because removing the state frees up capital. Don't use America as evidence, it isn't free market.
AtheistAltar 9 months ago
@MrMelvincommie Better off with the state? I'd like to ask the 300 million dead in the last century that question but I can't because statism killed them all. If you think that these murders were all justified then I'm very scared of you. I fear the state and all those who support it, I think anyone who truly believes in human rights should be terrified of them and know that the state is their mortal enemy.
frostyuk2007 9 months ago
@frostyuk2007
hmm very nice use of emotion to make me sound like a monster, but is it not states that fund the World Food Program or World Health Organisation who have saved millions and millions of lives, raised standards of living and created futures for those without a hope. Now if you really think that it is evil to help those in need who dont have the ability to save themselves, then truly it is not you who should be feared? PS the watchman state protects your rights from other people
MrMelvincommie 9 months ago
@MrMelvincommie But how has the state performed the tasks you claim? Murdered millions and stolen from the survivors under the threat of imprisonment. People care about the poor not the state as an entity, people demand the state take care of the poor but how does the state do this? It takes 60% of our earnings through direct and indirect taxes, consumes most of it and dishes out very little inefficiently. A voluntary organisation would be better not one based on theft surely?
frostyuk2007 9 months ago
@frostyuk2007
Hmm that is a good argument but vountary are just that, they rely on the kindness and generosity of others, something which is certainly lacking in most people. The voluntary organisations you speak of actually rely on over 50% of their funding from the state. I live in the UK, in my country I pay taxes for a health care service which is superior to any market based one except Japan, all the best ones are provided by you guessed it the state, they provide for more for less.
MrMelvincommie 9 months ago
@MrMelvincommie
Lol, the NHS is a total failure. The best health care systems in the world are almost completely private. See Singapore.
17Spartacus76 9 months ago
@17Spartacus76
Check the rankings man, the majority are welfare states, eg 1 is France Singapore is 7. It is not a complete failure, my cousin died of cancer in India because he couldn't afford the drugs to treat it, this wasn't terminal cancer. His parents couldnt even afford the painkillers to ease his suffering. They sold everything they had to cover the medical bills. In the UK the state would have provided that treatment free of charge :/
MrMelvincommie 9 months ago
@MrMelvincommie
Wrong again commie. The most recent rankings place Singapore on top. France is largely privatized as well, with over 90% of the population purchasing private health care.
And no, the state can't provide ANYTHING free of charge.
17Spartacus76 9 months ago
@MrMelvincommie It's one of those things where people compare the NHS to the American system and say that the American system is representative of the "free market." In reality, America spends about the same percentage per capita GDP on health care as many "socialist" countries. What plagues the American system is restriction; restriction of supply of doctors, of medicine, and insurance options (i.e., not free market). Also Americans live less healthy lifestyles.
AtheistAltar 9 months ago
@AtheistAltar
Again I did not mention America, if you look at the rankings for best healthcare systems in the world the majority are ones from welfare states. The worse ones are ones in which the Government is either non-existent or has little intervention in the market.
MrMelvincommie 9 months ago
@MrMelvincommie There is no truly free market health system on Earth to compare it with as they are all heavily regulated and the UK is one of the worst in Europe, ask any German if they'd have surgery in a UK hospital, they'll cringe. Voluntary is not voluntary if it's subsidised by theft, without the states existence then we'd have voluntary. Stefan teaches philosophy for free, I use my knowledge of psychology to help the depressed for free, if you care about the poor what do you do to help?
frostyuk2007 9 months ago
@frostyuk2007
That is fantastic that you do that, its nice to see that some people will help others, I myself am a student I learn skills to serve the people I also volunteer at my local charity shop, its little I know. If you look at the ranking for best healthcare systems the majority come from welfare states. Plus ask someone from Sudan where hed prefer to get treatment hell say UK everytime. Does it matter it I help personally, thats not a selfless act, taxes help the poor just as much.
MrMelvincommie 9 months ago
@MrMelvincommie Taxes do however have the negative effect of creating the poor too unfortunately. Before the introduction of the Welfare State (dole lol) England was actually reducing the poverty line by about 1 or 2% every year through a thriving free market enterprise. The introduction of the dole lowered the middle class earnings into the working class and forced poverty on our nation. Now we have a huge dependent class many of whom have never worked and don't intend to, sad really.
frostyuk2007 9 months ago
@frostyuk2007
Yes if taxes are too high there is little incentive for enterprise and thus growth slows down etc tec. That was down to the introduction of supply side economics in this case brought about by the Government provision of education which allowed greater social mobility and growth and also from improved regulations which also helped boost productivity and improve the standard of living. Plus the standard of living has only really advanced incredibly post 1945 to such a huge extent.
MrMelvincommie 9 months ago
@MrMelvincommie It's evil to coerce people to fund them via taxes. And no, it is not "me" or anyone who opposes such corrcion who needs to be feared. It is do-gooder nutcases who try and coerce you for your - or someone else's - nebulous "own good".
Moragauth 9 months ago
@Moragauth
I am not coerced, I freely choose to belong to the state and not because I am brainwashed.Though if the state can brainwash me? Then how are you sure that you yourself are not being brainwashed to believe it is evil? I logically believe in the state. I believe in helping people, but I am one man, my resources are limited, but pooled together they can used more effeciently and help more people. Im sorry if I wish to help my common man whereas you it seems you would rather leave him be
MrMelvincommie 9 months ago
@MrMelvincommie
Give me liberty or give me death.
thegillotine09 9 months ago
@thegillotine09 Just take liberty! ;)
theawecabinet 9 months ago
@MrMelvincommie Fuck you. I own me. Not you or your precious violent government.
canubelieve 9 months ago
*Standing ovation*
vspqbd 9 months ago 52
I like when you do videos like theese Stef. Or, I like most of your videos, they make sense to me...
STAB1L 9 months ago 37
May I be blunt for a moment? You've showed the problem, where is the solution?
If you believe that the modeling of a state after a family is wrong/unpractical ect, what exactly would you propose instead?
shinom0ri 9 months ago
@shinom0ri I would suggest checking out his other videos and also his free books at his website: freedomainradio.
Loyal2Liberty 9 months ago
@shinom0ri Just browse through his channel. Stef has proposed solutions in many video's as well as in books on his site. It's easier to convey 1 idea per video than try to cram the entire range of philosophical idea's into one package.
0rthogonal 9 months ago
@shinom0ri I think you've misunderstood the problem. The point Stef is making is if parents "rationalize" their actions to their children by using force or any other means besides reason, then children will grow up believing societies should be run the same way. Politics currently leverage this type of parenting mentality to create a new generation of adults (or "children of the state"). The solution is then to alter parenting to adopt more reasoning to raise future state-resistant adults.
whitechocolatespace 9 months ago
I disagree!
xknowledgeisfreex 9 months ago
@xknowledgeisfreex You disagree? Great. Why? (omg)
janporra 9 months ago
@xknowledgeisfreex Oh, sorry. X doesn't get the square.
Ovalshine 9 months ago
that metaphor is like a smack in the face
you've outdone yourself yet again steffan
peace and love from scotland
Mikeyculley2332 9 months ago
Great job! This is one of your bests, a true instant FDR classic!
N7a7v7i 9 months ago
I have a bias towards Ron Paul. He reminds me of my grandpa.
twn5858 9 months ago
One of your best, Stefan
BookofNick 9 months ago
damn, I'll never go into debt. Apparently the earth dissolves to the core :P
networkedfreedom 9 months ago
Been waiting for this, and you did not disappoint. Great video.
drogden 9 months ago
I can always count on an enlightening thought from Freedomain Radio!
StatelessLiberty 9 months ago
Yes, insightful, but unfortunately the same population which can hardly be trusted with the vote can neither be trusted with a total free market society.
mouthpiece200 9 months ago