A 25% tax on the rich and a 10% tax on the lower earners just removes the incentive to be rich. This is why our wealth was outsourced in the first place. How would Obama's plan that you described with such austere hostility right after be any different if they are also penalizing the rich for being rich? Does an arbitrary difference in the amount stolen from citizens for the state make that much of a difference in the outcome? Probably not.
@thdremily Yeah, who needs to read stuff! STUPID IDIOT BITCH ASS READING TAKES TOO MUCH OF MY LIFE ALREADY WHO NEEDS TO READ WE NEED LEADERS NOT READERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111
@CommanderBlizzard i fucking hate that phrase. I can give you the names of my relatives lost to the Nazis and my grandparents got married in Auschwitz. I hope you feel like shit for what you said
America is broke because you think you are the world police and waste your money on rebuilding Afghanistan/Iraq while you can't even rebuild your own country. REDICULOUS! 4 trilion in Iraq, and for what, an Iran-friendly regime.
Good priorities 'right wingers', keep it up, see if you ever get out of debt while your military industrial complex profits on the heels of your illusions of moral grandeur.
@CoreyOgilvie I'm not for the wars but America could scrap it's entire military and still have a deficit. The problem is entitlement spending not military spending.
@CoreyOgilvie I admit the military spending has gone to far but we spend 20% on social security, 20% on medicare and medicaid, along with another 20% on other social services. On the other hand we spend about 19% of our budget on military spending. The biggest thing that needs to be done is cut entitlement spending in order to restore austerity.
Absurdly over-simplistic rendition of the debt crisis, dare I say the reason the US is in this pickle in the first place... Smart people resorting to fear-mongering and lies, this is very dangerous.
If people like this guy, and the US as a country, would for once look outside its borders at countries that ARE NOT in a debt crisis, they'll see what kind of tax system keeps a country afloat. When your rich pay half the taxes of the middle class, you'll never sustain a society, PERIOD.
@CoreyOgilvie I double fucking dare you to name a country worth a damn that isn't in economic trouble?
Not that any answer would suffice because America is a totally different animal that any other country. Many, many countries spend peanuts on their defense budgets because they know the US will protect them. Many countries economies are directly tied to the US for better or for worse. You can't compare apples to oranges and expect a valid conclusion.
@asdfhuliashduflasihf They're not. You're illustrating more and more that you have zero understanding what the US stands for.
The iraq war was a mistake, most of us agree with that--left and right.
Afghanistan's government protected terrorists who just murdered 3 thousand people, they got what they deserved. We shouldn't still be there, but they deserved to be bombed into dust. It had nothing to do with protection.
Even though it’s my first comment, I already illustrate more and more how ignorant I am of what US stands for? Oh dearie me. Actually, I think I have a decent grasp on what the US stands for. Kuwait want to have a word with me? To tell me what, the benevolent selflessness of the US? US intervened in the 1991 Gulf War not out of moral courage, but because of self-interest. Kuwait had very close relations with the West, and Hussein’s attack
@asdfhuliashduflasihf You know I'm really bored so I'll try. With Kuwait I would say 1) who cares if we were motivated by our self-interest. Didn't make any difference to the people of Kuwait why we were there but that we were. 2) There was a still a great deal of relative selflessness as our interest in keeping peace in the world as with Kosovo and Somalia in the 90s. As far as the WWII goes, thank you for conceding that the US sacrificed considerably for Western Europe.
posed a possible threat to US oil interest in the Middle East. Eagleburger argued that US acquiescence to Iraqi aggression would embolden Hussein and that Saudi Arabia might be attacked next, which was their main priority. Does Kuwait wish to tell me that? Well, I’m quite aware of how US protects its oil interests, thank you. Europe wants to tell me something as well? Perhaps to tell me about US help during WWII?
Oh yes, US was absolutely crucial in defeating the Axis powers, but what about after? US kept “losing” requests for aid by Russia and terminated Lend-Lease aid immediately after the war. Even traditionally pro-American British lamented that it “is aggravating to find that the reward for losing a quarter of our national wealth in the common cause is to pay tribute for half a century to those who have been enriched by the war.” So yes, I am acquainted
@asdfhuliashduflasihf Yes, we didn't help the Soviet Union after the war. Make no mistake we knew we were making a deal with the devil and we certainty weren't going to help them afterwards. Yes, we did terminate lend-lease after the war. That was the whole point, we lent supplies free of charge in an emergency and now that the crises was over we had the audacity to demand that we're compensated for lending material.
But of course, this is just one aspect. I could be ignorant of other important things of what “US stands for”. What else is there? Oh who could forget US bold efforts to protect the world from Communism? Who could forget the Bay of Pigs attack? I’m sure Cuba would like a word with you. Who could forget the Vietnam War, Johnson’s attempt to drive a wedge between the Soviet Union and China? I’m sure the local villagers
@asdfhuliashduflasihf Even still, we were the nation of the Marshall Plan and the Berlin Airlift with our men protecting the West from the Soviet Union. As far as Bay of Pigs, I think that the Cubans who almost drowned coming over here would say that they wished we had succeeded. Vietnam, Nicaragua, and Indonesia, yes we aren't perfect but we were trying to win the Cold War.
who suffer from the after effects of Agent Orange would also like a word with you. I’m sure Nicaragua is still waiting to have a word with the US, seeking compensation for all the damage that US sponsored as ruled by the ICJ, but we haven’t heard a thing from the US since 1986. The CIA was also complicit in stoking rumours of a Communist takeover in Indonesia, leading to the military slaughtering of millions of Chinese in 1965. I’m sure they would like
Finally, who can forget? US stands for DEMOCRACY, no? Yet it deposed Mossadeq in 1953 because of oil reasons, even though Mossadeq was a moderate that many historians believe could have introduced a democratic Iran. I’m sure many of Iranians today still remember the puppet Shah which US installed in his place. Also, I’m sure Algeria has a lot to tell you too about US tacit support for the military cancelling the 1992 elections,
@asdfhuliashduflasihf That being said, the US still won the Cold War. As far as Iran goes, yes we did some bad things to win the Cold war, but what would you have done differently without 20/20 hindsight. As far as the Algeria thing goes I must admit I don't know anything about it past the post 9/11 support, which yeah we were going to fight the formation of any new Islamic governments.
simply because the party that won was Islamist, along with The Philippines, where the US backed Marcos even though he was an oppressive tyrant.
So yeah, I’m pretty sure what the US stands for in terms of foreign policy; the broad sweep of abstract moral principles which the US extols is (more often than not) ultimately shaped by realpolitik and self-interest.
@asdfhuliashduflasihf So yes the US is flawed and I'm not going to lie we usually don't put our lives at risk if it isn't in our self-interest. Yet, ultimately we have opened countries for trade, brokered some peace in the middle east, helped to stop Hitler, stopped the Soviets, and given millions in aid. It's easy to cherry pick our failures but I ask you to name one group which has done better job as a world power: the UN, Britain, the Soviet Union, etc.
I've actually lost interest in this, I wrote it cos I had a lot of time on my hands and I was in a very bad mood that day. It's not particularly relevant to the video so I don't think I should drag on with it.
That being said, I don't agree with a fair bit of what you wrote. I'll either PM you my response or post it on your channel as a comment. I don't think the ppl here are too pleased with me ranting about a separate topic alrdy.
So much wrong with this man's view point where to start. But what's the point, even If bring fact after fact. People like him won't listen to facts. So have fun in la la land.
@mrburradasful Hello , so glad You put in your two cents worth,I suppose You can point out other videos that act as counter point........Fair and open minded.....I would appreciate
this. Perhaps on your channel ? If your view is powerful,then many excellent speakers should be highlights.
Y does China keep loaning out money they know they will never get back to us?
Seems kind of like a stupid move.
China:Mmmmm... Americas seems to be 35 trillion dollars in dept and there economy is failing and there leader keeps spending money that does not exist....O well, im sure that under these conditions the Americans will be able to pay us back right? I mean, there history and economy clearly shows they can and will. Right?
I certainly dont see how the Supreme Court would agree with the mandate requiring all Americans enter into contracts with private insurance companies for the purchase of their product until death. This isn't the same as states requiring auto insurance. For starters, driving is a privilege, not a right. Secondly, those who dont drive dont have to buy car insurance, so for those who equate Obamacare with auto insurance, thats comparing apples and oranges.
this video without a shadow of a doubt is created by Republicans. If both sides (Republicans and Democrats) shut up their prideful mouths and work together (like President Obama did say) us Americans all together Young and Old Black Asian Latino and White can exist as a people with our own cycle of money JOBS and medicare to love and care for each other better as a people but unfortunately Republicans has race issues and more...
@DemetriusEdge You are clearly a Liberal, so I will give you a short explanation (so don't over-think it and hurt yourself please) 1st off I can tell you're a liberal, because you separated races, and you started saying stuff about love and care (which are meaningless words in this sense. (Also I'm half Asian, Half white, so you can't use the race card on me.) And 2nd of all, We don't "shut our prideful mouths" because there is no such thing as compromise, it's a win or lose game.
@Nationofhonor lol you're a little to cocky grow up annnnnd Wow White and Asian who can't use the race card on that note Black and Asian and White and Asian mixed is almost my whole family so ooooooooh big deal "NOT" any way it doesn't matter what you reply back with because you're a puppet bye :)
@Nationofhonor I agree with this sentiment. It is a win or lose situation. If there is anything wrong with the right, it is that they have compromised too much already and they have indulged the Democrats too much. How's that working out fer ya? With a little more prodding from the only group that makes sense, the Tea party, they can grow a pair and become not just the party of no, but the party of F*** NO!
@DemetriusEdge We aren't going to compromise with stupid people, we are going to get a free market which will create wealth and lower the cost of living through competition and will make our country prosper, we are not going to compromise with the same idiots whose policies caused the bubble economy.
@DemetriusEdge It's funny that you can't debate with me so you make fun of my not having a picture for my account. It's not too late to become a conservative and have some intelligence, you don't have to stay diseased by the horrible mental condition that is liberalism all your life.
@d3ltadrive it's funny I use less time to reply back then you use to realize sad you are. Sad enough to have nothing more to do but waste your life thinking childishly upon how to insult me with false Medical information (get a life).
Paul Ryan's plan is a lot better then Obama's, but I still think it's too moderate. We need no federal income tax unless we are at war, which should only be entered if we are in immediate danger. We need to privatize social security and medicare, and we need to end corporatism and leave all companies open to free competition. We need 0 government regulation. We need Laissez Faire.
What is really scary is how many republicans no longer believe in the free market, or only pay it lip service. I watch the Republican debates and it sounds like they had their platform written by the democrat party. hiring subsidies, protectionist tariffs, and state run socialized health care, you can't fix the problems caused by socialist sabotage, with more socialism, only getting government out of the market altogether can bring this country back.
@jeebedon Let's leave the Gypsies out of this. The competitive system supplies your food. Does the grocery store cheat you? NO! It is regulated by its competitors, and medical practitioners will be limited by the same system under the Ryan plan.
Entitlements by their very nature are un-American. The only thing we're entitled to is equal opportunity. The same kind of opportunity as people like Steve Jobs, and Bill Gates who had humble beginnings.
Look at the top 10% of Americans and see how many of them started in the bottom 1/3. No where else can that happen except in a free capitalist society. Obama doesn't understand that. As to taking care of the less fortunate, that's up to us as a people, NOT the government as a collective.
He didn't even bother explaining Obama's plan into detail. He instead ridiculed it and never bothered to explain it in a serious way. This video was a complete joke.
@cyberlee Hard to explain in 4 minutes a 1,000+ page bill. I think the joke is on the people who passed it claim to have gotten it read in the few days before the vote.
GOP's Paul Ryan uses"projection"when ACCUSING Obama of"class warfare". CLASS WARFARE is what REPUBLICAN$ have been waging for the last 30 yrs. Since the Reagan& Bush tax cuts, the wealthest have been paying less tax than at anytime in America's history. More jobs have been lost in said period than at anytime since 1929. PAULIE,everyone form NY to Janesville,WI (your hometown)to Seattle knows that YOU are out to DESTROY MEDICARE..TAKE YOUR CORPORATE DONATIONS& RETIRE.YOU'RE FINISHED.
@Awesome61696, you asserted that, "Entitlements aren't at the root of our debt problems." You are partially correct, the root of the our problems is that we have disregarded the Constitutional limitation on spending...specifically that charity is not authorized. (I asked you earlier to find that clause which authorized this activity)
That includes SSI, Medicare, Welfare (corporate & individual), Foreign Aid, and any other "social" program.
@AWesome61696, your response that appeals to "every other first world country" having healthcare guaranteed by the government is a logical fallacy...just because everyone believes something is right doesn't make it so...to wit, most use to think the world was flat...were they right?
Let's start at the beginning: Please cite the specific authority in the Constitution granting the federal government the power to provide healthcare (or any charity for that matter) for the citizenry.
I didn't say "Government-run health care" is a Constitutional right...
I said that as a Constitutional right, an INDIVIDUAL can pursue "healthcare" as a part of his pursuit of happiness (as long as it doesn't infringe on another's rights). I also specifically said that it was not an entitlement (implying one must work and pay for his healthcare) and that it was THEFT if one was forced to pay for another individual's healthcare.
@NewWorldAhead, health care is a part of the pursuit of happiness...it is an individual right, not an entitlement whereby you force another person to use the products (money) of his life and liberty to make you happy! That's called theft.
As to "gay marriage", I don't care if you enjoy sticking your penis in a man's anus in your home...but stop forcing it on us as "normal"...it is not normative in nature, not consistent with your "god" evolution, & certainly an abomination to the one true God.
@tgrove2 No it's not. Health care is not a Constitutional right. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are. Government-run health care is not sustainable; look at any type of government-run entity, they perform poorly. I, as anyone else, has the right to protect the money I make from the work that I do. It's my right and duty to defend my private property.
@kesselster Healthcare should be a right. It's either a right or a guranateed service in every other first world country on the planet. Why shouldn't it be a right?
@AWesome61696 Because, if it's a right or a service, someone else must be legally bound to provide it. Plus, people constantly take advantage of social programs that already exist. In addition, those programs are poorly run, inefficient, and are unfair to those who pay and earn nothing back from those who take. One last point: look at Cuba's health care system, it's appalling. Look at North Korea's--well, just look at North Korea.
@kesselster Yes, the government should be legally bound to provide healthcare through paying for cheap insurance for people who can't afford it. That's exactly what Obamacare is all about, and thats why I support it. Cuba and North Korea are communist states, you shouldn't compare.
@AWesome61696 It simply won't work though. I was comparing their health care systems; you brought it up. I am well aware of what they are. And that is an appropriate comparison. Look at what the government runs.
@AWesome61696 "Sanity is not statistical," wrote George Orwell. Just because everyone else says something is right doesn't make it right. The guarantee of healthcare is a product of the entitlement society. Most of Europe is made up of these governments, and they're falling as fast, or faster, than the United States. Just look at Greece.
@gryphonlaments Entitlements aren't at the root of our debt problems. From 1945 to 1975, the USA paid down most of it's debt while expanding entitlements like Medicare. Ronald Reagan increased our debt four-fold because of military spending, not entitlement spending, and very expensive trickle-down economics. The Greek people don't have the American work ethic that allows our country to run relatively successful entitlement programs.
@AWesome61696 Military spending does have a huge effect on the debt, and in many cases more than that of entitlements, although you were incorrect in saying that Reagan quadrupled the debt, Bush the senior did. That is obviously not all that increases the debt though. Bush the Junior increased the debt by about $5.5 trillion in eight years where Obama increased it approximately $4 trillion in three, and the major part of the wars in Irag and Afghanistan were fought under Bush.
@AWesome61696 Obama being far more partial to entitlements, like Obamacare, has been far more detrimental to the economy. If he continues spending as he has, and wins the next election, we'll face 10 and a half trillion dollars added to the national debt since his inauguration. He has resorted to Keynesian tactics to fix our economic crisis, and, so far, it has done nothing but make the problem worse.
@gryphonlaments Entitlements being deterimental to the economy is bull. Entitlements increase the purchasing power of the lower-to-middle class and stimulate growth. He has spent alot, yes, and I agree that the debt should be brought down, but right now the govt. must spend alot. Keynesian economics is brillant when put into practice.
Obama is far more Clintonian than Keynesian. A Keynesian wouldn't cut entitlements like Obama has proposed for Medicare and Social Security.
@AWesome61696 Entitlements hardly increase the purchasing power of the lower to middle class. They still pay it in taxes, and this way it is directed to things which are merely "for their own protection." Take Obamacare for example. It is meant to protect people who get ill financially. We all still end up paying for it in taxes, and it destroys the competitiveness of health insurance provider. They know that people have to have health insurance, so they can jack up their prices.
@gryphonlaments Yes but richer people pay more in taxes, thus the entitlement programs in this country are mostly covered by the upper-income class. You're making a good argument with the healthcare issue, and your probably right. It does hinder on competition. But all Americans are entitlted to it.
ANDREW KLAVAN is a college drop-out. He is an uneducated BUM. Andrew is just mad because no one watches his movies or buys his books. He thinks no one likes him because he is racist. NOPE. No one likes you because you are a talentless hack. Like all miserable people you strive to 'bring down' the world around you.
How can u be a facist and a liberal? Two different thing dumbass. It wasn't liberal policy to have tax cuts, start two wars that we borrowed money from a communist country to pay for which we hate commies. I don't think the founding fathers would like corporations ruling America.
@korymettler actually ....liberal democrats ...tend to be fascist......and corporations have no power over you ..... absolutely no power over you ....think about (FORD) the company having power over you .....you delusional idiot
@korymettler If you hate corporations, then why are you posting on youtube? It is owned by google, a corporation. I won't believe that you dislike corporations till you stop posting on youtube.
Thanks to liberal policy the world economy is crashing. We must do two things to stop the meltdown NOW!!! Firstly, we need to raise all payroll taxes 10% for one year. We also need to stop (right now) wasteful handout programs like medicare, social security, unemployment,, etc. and lower the minimum wage to $2/hr so we can compete with China. I will work with Paul Ryan and my other republican colleagues and take immediate action on these proposals. God bless the GOP!
@NewWorldAhead 4 u, racism = disagreement. The moment a person differs from the Lefties that person is called a racist. Repubs, TP ppl, conservatives & Libertarians ALL are called racists, b/c they disagree & that is how it works.
Real racists = the Left. Why? B/c they dictate to Blacks & other non-Whites how to think & if they differ at all, they get called names such as Uncle Tom, , token, etc. Look at Alan West. Lefties have no respect for him, b/c he is Black & doesn't kiss their butts.
Dude, you are so full of the proverbial bull's doo doo that I won't even talk about it. I will let your comment stand. Teabaggers ARE racists, homophobes, xenophobes, and any other phobe there is . So take your Fox News shit and shove it up your... LOLOL
@NewWorldAhead No. Lefties are the real racists as they dictate to Blacks & other non-Whites are racists how to think via race. Here is the smoking gun: watch?v=MA-F5UW-XXk
Same applies to women so they are sexist too. Just look at the last election: No Repub woman got any respect from the Lefties. None, b/c they are women.
Gays? No one asks at TP events if a person is gay, so nice try. Now take your MSNBC BS and shove in the trash racist, bigoted, Left-wing Fascist thug.
@zegermans750 What racist caricature? I didn't think that depiction of a Chinese person was racist at all. Many peasants working in rice fields and others in various professions have hats like that. So what?
In Australia's medicare system, all money earners pay tax towards a national Medicare system, but if you earn over a certain amount (around $55,000 pa) you can also buy private health insurance, crediting this towards your tax deductions. This ensures that all citizens are covered for their essential healthcare needs - while those that wish to avail themselves of higher levels of health attention, can buy it. Like all essentially socialist-inspired systems, it works best when the economy works.
@GreatPOPMusicChannel I agree but that will never happen. I have great respect for Ron Paul but reason his ideas will never come to pass is bec they are too radical in the sense that Americans live in a dream world. In a world of unicorns and fairies, its hard to talk reality.So when Ron Paul talks reality, everyone goes crazy and that is why a common sense leader will NEVER get elected in a country that still believes in the tooth fairy. Paul Ryan knows how to take it one step at a time.
What specific authority within the U.S. Constitution grants the power to provide for these charities: SSI, Medicare, Obamacare, personal and corporate welfare, etc. (please be specific on article, section, and paragraph).
Our country is based upon life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness; what power has been granted to the federal gov't by the States to murder (take innocent life), to instill forms of slavery (take liberty), or steal (take the product of life and liberty)?
Oh, please you "holier than thou" corporate elitist hack. Who are you fooling? I know there is nothing in the Constitution that states the govt should provide SSI, Medicare etc. But let me tell you one thing, the middle class made this country and without those programs it will unmake it. You can keep professing your teabagging ways and try convincing me you are a regular working class person but I don't believe it. Most people on here are rich or somehow connected to money.
@NewWorldAhead Try a cogent (relevant/persuasive) response to my simple question:
The Constitution has several foundational principles; the Declaration of Independence specifies the following: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Do you accept and support the above "self-evident" truths, as true, or do you reject them?
Are you on crack dude? You again just proved yourself complete wrong! Life (health care), liberty (gay marriage, woman's right to choose) and pursuit of happiness (does not having health care make one happy)? LOLOLOL
You are all idiots who agree with this fucking pinhead. Ok, so you're ok with rich hedge fund managers, aristocrats and corporate elitists having tons of money, but you aren't ok with grandma having Medicare or SSI? We are the richest fucking country in the world and we can't help our needy? Funny how Germany, Japan, France etc. (who aren't as wealthy by the way) CAN assist the sick, poor and elderly. Hmmm. Now what morons? Pwned.
@NewWorldAhead You know.......if you TAX the rich who just happen to be small buisnesses that are included in that 250,000 a year income than they will be less likely to hire you. Just thought you should know that the so called RICH .they pay for 48% of Americans tax's and you want to punish them more..Start your own buisness and find out just how much you have to pay in to it JUST TO STAY AFLOAT. I am sure that you would rather keep some of that money that you have earned.
@NewWorldAhead Calling other people "idiots" doesn't make you smart. You have proved that. "Super Duper Rich". What is that anyway? The Top 5% income earners in the US pay for over 60% of US Tax Receipts. So you want to increase government spending and then make the top 5% pay for what? 70% 80% 90%? If you have any pertinent knowledge regarding recent CBO estimates, you would know that even if the top 5% are taxed 100% of their income, it would make little difference regarding the debt crisis...
@NewWorldAhead Do you understand the concept that spending LESS money has the same effect as raising revenue? Or are you really that ignorant? You are not even worth talking to. Sorry but I have wasted my time arguing with a brick wall. Probably my fault for giving you that much credit. Bye
Ok, so let me get this straight. By cutting taxes (revenue) from very rich people (some who ARE NOT corporations but just old money) which goes into the government (which the government pays for you SSI, Medicare, infrastructure, etc.), this is supposed to be better for us? I see, so less SSI and Medicare for the elderly, crappy roads etc., but giving rich people more money (instead of buying 8 yachts now they can buy 22), this is going to be better for us? LOLOLOL
@NewWorldAhead There will be no such thing as Medicare in 2017 because it is going bankrupt. CBO has estimated this already. You don't seem to understand that RICH people pay close to 60-70 % of tax receipts in this country. I asked you earlier. How much do you want them to pay? 100%? You didn't answer. Even if you say 100%, that is barely going to put a dent. Look at Paul Ryan's medicare solution, which benefits lower income earners while giving substantially less benefits to rich old people.
@NewWorldAhead Your feeble mind seems to think that the only "rich" people in this country are billionaire playboys with nothing productive to do. Let me ask you this. Where do you work? (If you even have a job). Unless you are self-employed, you are getting a paycheck from a company. That company is paying the 2nd highest corporate tax rate in the world [next to Japan]. You want them to pay more? I'm sorry to say but you'll loose your job if they pay any more. Not sure if you want that...
@NewWorldAhead And when I say less government spending, your narrow liberal view of thinking automatically tells you, that less gov. spending means less for SSI/Medi/Infras... You don't understand about tort reform, wasteful spending, reforming the tax code to cut on WASTEFUL spending, so money can actually GO TO SSI / MEDICARE/ INFRASTRUCTURE instead of being literally wasted in sustaining bureaucratic institutions. You don't understand the concept of efficiency. Putting $100 into an..cont'd
@NewWorldAhead 'cont'd. 80% efficient system will yield a $80 benefit. Putting $200 into a wasteful program with a 20% efficiency will only yield a $40 benefit. So even though you are spending twice as much money, you are only getting half the benefit. Its counter productive. Point being, even if you double the size of an inefficient government by taking EVERY SINGLE PENNY from "Rich billionaire playboys" and pump it into an inefficient system. The result will be less than satisfactory. Think
Look, Mr. Genius, all I know is that working class people are losing. When George Bush lowered taxes drastically (two times I might add), this economy should've been booming! Especially while we were fightting 2 wars which usually stimulate the economy (i.e, airplanes, construction, weapons etc.) Well, guess what? We almost went into a depression right before Obama came into office. Under advice from many leading economists, Obama initiated a stimulus which (cont.)
caused the country to go into a recovery, even though it was a slight one. Jobs are actually coming back, ever so slightly as well. Why is the recovery sluggish? Because of the tea bagging idiots that were elected by uninformed Americans who thought by electing them the economy would improve quicker. Ha! No such luck.
To answer your dumb question, I believe the tax code should be graduated. Higher earners paying a higher percentage tax rate and lower earners paying a lower one. If you make under 30,000, you should pay NADA. Now who's lowering taxes, me or you, Einstein?
@NewWorldAhead That is already the reality. I have no problem doing that. The PROBLEM, however, is that will NOT solve the $14 Trillion debt CRISIS. People making under 30,000 get FAT juicy tax refunds which I endorse. You want them to get more juicy refunds. I accept. That's fine. Now letsmove on to the actual elephant in theroom. Raising a littlebit of Revenuewill not turnoverour fiscal fiat based corrupt monetary system to magically cure itself. The problem with our economy is more tthn that.
@NewWorldAhead I didn't think it could happen but we agree. Btw: Who is "gutting Medicare"? Medicare is going to go INSOLVENT in 2017... that means Dead, Bankrupt. Obama's healthcare plan guts $500 Billion from medicare, and has NOT a single piece of legislation that saves medicare from going Bankrupt. I advise you to check out Paul Ryan's Medicare Bill, that gives more money to low income earners and saves it from bankruptcy. I agree with you on SSI though even though its also bankrupt.....
Paul Ryan is a douchbag. All he cares about are the fat cats and corporate elitists. We agreed until you mentioned him. His plan is the WORST possible solution. By raising revenue on the highest income earners and ending the wars, we will have enough money to fund Medicare.
explain 2 things for me please.....1.what is a corporation?.........2.why is there a line on my paycheck that says so much is taken out for SSI Medicare? (since the gov't pays for it,as you claim,it shouldnt be there)
Because it's taken out for YOUR benefit. No one should receive your SSI but you and no one should receive your Medicare but you since you've paid into the system.
ok cool,but you say "should",which implies that it is used for someone else rather than me only and what about that money in case i die before iam "elegible" to recieve my "benefits" from what i payed in,who gets it? or what about it when i do not make use of it (due to a lottery win as example) and there is still the question of what a corporation is
Well, that's my point. If we stick with Dems we will definitely have SSI and Medicare. Go with Repubs, and SSI will be sharply cut and Medicare will become a voucher program.
I dont see it like that,since the dems are in charge (with Obama) and they use it for someone else right now,iam sure there wont be any that i get,even i pay into it right now,anyhow guess i will see,so whats your definition of corporations ?
@NewWorldAhead cont'd. Taking all of Brad Pitts money isn't going to make a dent in the $14 Trillion debt or the $38 Trillion medicare unfunded liability or the other hundreds of trillions in health care costs, pension, etc. Just because you have failed at life and don't make a decent wage, doesn't mean you should take your frustrations on the "Super Duper Rich" and let the govt. take all their money, bec. even if they do.. it'll make no diff. Why? We have a spending problem. Not a revenue one.
I have succeeded in life because I have many people around me who support and love me. You, on the other hand, are a corporatist hack, trying to pass for a normal working class American. You are probably one of those people making over $250,000 and now you're crying cause the President and the S & P want to tax you some more, wahhhhhhhhhh cry baby, too damn bad.
@NewWorldAhead Nope you have proved yourself to be an idiot again. I am 21 years old and about to graduate from college with a Mechanical Engineering degree. My dad has been working for the past 35 years. I make over $250,000? I wish. My family has trouble paying bills at the end of the month. You don't know anything about me so don't pretend any different. I'm just smart enough to understand how the US government works. You apparently watch too much corporate media and are clearly brainwashed
Thanks to liberal policies America can no longer afford to pay for medicare, social security, unemployment and many other services. We also need to lower the minimum wage to $2/hr in order to compete with China and bring jobs back home. Fiscally responsible conservatives like Paul Ryan and Michele Bachmann know this and are currently
working to end these wasteful handout programs and bring the minimum wage down so that America can be great again. God bless the GOP!
@GOPkicksbutt Um. I agree with most of what you say, but lowering the minimum wage to $2 an hr would have most people starving to death. They would barely make enough to pay for gas. Granted that minimum wage should be for high school kids on a summer job or kids that are out of school. Higher paying jobs for a higher education. Was that what you were referring to?
One large mistake in this video @3:37. China doesn't want us to pay off the loan... They WANT us to keep paying interest on the loan. Why would a Credit Card company want you to pay off your card if you never miss a payment?
@ladefreakndah credit card companies don't have political designs. IF China ever decided to move against the United States, they could cripple us before even firing the first shot.
What...? Economic system failed because of greedy Rich people and stupid Poor people trying to live beyond their means..? Why, we can always use the same old get-out-of-jail-free card we've always used! That's right, folks!
WAR!
When things go really stinky and smelly America can just sit back waiting to be asked by the World to sort out all its problems by stepping in and fighting in one of those idiotic wars they started.
I always enjoy coming on this idiot Klavan's page to get a good laugh. It is PROVEN he is a corporate lobbyist trying to promote this idiotic plan of taking Medicare, Social Security and every other social safety net away from the working class. Interesting how he doesn't discuss revenue! The corporations and the rich are making MORE money than EVER before and are being taxed at the LOWEST rates than ever before. So who's listening to this snake oil salesman anyway? Oh, yea, other lobbyists lol
The gap between the rich and the poor means NOTHING.
If next year, the rich per capital increased 1 million dollars, the middle class per capital increased 10 thousand dollars, and the poor increased their per capital by 1 thousand dollars, the LEFT would BE EVEN MORE FURIOUS than before simply because the gap between the rich and the poor has widened even though all classes have benefited.
The gap between rich and poor means nothing. Get a clue
You could have done a good job of actually talking about the differences between these two plans, but instead you took an extremely biased view. (This is coming from an economist who actually supports the Ryan plan over Obama)
Don't forget about what Henry Morganthau, FDR's own treasury secretary, said in 1939 (facing 20% unemployment): "We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we ever have spent before and it does not work...I say after 8 years of this [FDR] Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started...and an enormous debt to boot!"
If we never had the Bush tax cut, Medicare part D (Pfizer approved), and these unpaid for wars (which were terribly handled by the Bush Admin). We wouldn't even have a debt crisis. If only Gore had got elected...
The Ryan plan should be called the road to serfdom. Yeah lets destroy medicare (the real death panels), increase military spending (700 billion a year ATT) and give the rich who now own 80% of all wealth another 10% tax break. Our children;s education and health care who needs it! The republicans of today are TRAITORS AND THIS DOUCHE IS THEIR SPOKESMAN!!!
There you go, free. Ten times more logical than LK's General Theory.
And you never read General Theory. You only read re-interpretations of General Theory. I have and it's more incoherent than the Bible.
Read Failure and General Theory. One makes sense, and one not only doesn't make sense, it's nigh insane.If you're drawn to reason you can and will realize you've been duped.
What always amazes me about Keynsian economic theory is that anyone actually believes it can work at all. If any individual or private company tried to spend their way out of debt, they'd end up bankrupt so fast it'd make their head spin. Only the feds are so far out in La-La Land that they think they can spend money they don't have and somehow make more money out of it. How in the hell did we let the federal government get this stupid?
Correction. Sorry, but I have made a mistake in my previous comment. Apparently, Keynesian economics believe that the economy should be driven by credit, not savings, so Klavan's depiction of Keynesian economics is frighteningly accurate. Credit driven growth is what caused the Great Depression (or more accurately, the cause of artificial growth), which is bad (obviously). Which probably proves Obama is an idiot who claims to be a student of history, who really doesn't know any history.
@Greedyspectator There are multiple theories on what caused the great depression. Some say it was the gap between rich and poor. Which is what is happening now. Some say Keynesian economics is what got us out of the GD. There is not enough consensus for anyone to say with 100% certainty.
@Greedyspectator you are so right man.That's what you get when they elect a community organizer who is only good in theory.Look at the state that is run by democrats its all bankrupt.
Thanks to liberal policies America can no longer afford to pay for medicare, social security, unemployment and many other services. We also need to lower the minimum wage to $2/hr in order to compete with China and bring jobs back home. Fiscally responsible conservatives like Paul Ryan and Michele Bachmann know this and are currently
working to end these wasteful handout programs and bring the minimum wage down so that America can be great again. God bless the GOP!
@rdubwiley Yup exactly. Just read the book please. The keynesians took control of the universities a long time ago probably beginning in the 60s and now they are waging full time war on little kids brains.
@rdubwiley From your profile, you're a college student who has probably been indoctrinated into the keynesian mindset. So please just read the The Failure of the New Economics by Henry Hazlitt. It offers the best expose of the fallacious keynesian model that I can think of
@shotsky94 I'm a Keynesian. I'm willing to read this book. Do you know where I can get it for free? I'm not willing to actually pay for it until I have some guarantee of quality.
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A 25% tax on the rich and a 10% tax on the lower earners just removes the incentive to be rich. This is why our wealth was outsourced in the first place. How would Obama's plan that you described with such austere hostility right after be any different if they are also penalizing the rich for being rich? Does an arbitrary difference in the amount stolen from citizens for the state make that much of a difference in the outcome? Probably not.
leeknivek 5 days ago
Did any one actually read @asdfhuliashduflasihf 's huge response? Or just assume that it was some angry rant that meant nothing and move on?
thdremily 5 days ago 2
@thdremily Yeah, who needs to read stuff! STUPID IDIOT BITCH ASS READING TAKES TOO MUCH OF MY LIFE ALREADY WHO NEEDS TO READ WE NEED LEADERS NOT READERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111
leeknivek 5 days ago
@leeknivek hahaha, indeed :)
thdremily 4 days ago
Lolocaust!!!
CommanderBlizzard 1 week ago
@CommanderBlizzard i fucking hate that phrase. I can give you the names of my relatives lost to the Nazis and my grandparents got married in Auschwitz. I hope you feel like shit for what you said
gabemondry 1 week ago
@gabemondry Lulz, sorry bro.
CommanderBlizzard 1 week ago
America is broke because you think you are the world police and waste your money on rebuilding Afghanistan/Iraq while you can't even rebuild your own country. REDICULOUS! 4 trilion in Iraq, and for what, an Iran-friendly regime.
Good priorities 'right wingers', keep it up, see if you ever get out of debt while your military industrial complex profits on the heels of your illusions of moral grandeur.
CoreyOgilvie 1 week ago
@CoreyOgilvie I'm not for the wars but America could scrap it's entire military and still have a deficit. The problem is entitlement spending not military spending.
666or999 1 week ago
@CoreyOgilvie I admit the military spending has gone to far but we spend 20% on social security, 20% on medicare and medicaid, along with another 20% on other social services. On the other hand we spend about 19% of our budget on military spending. The biggest thing that needs to be done is cut entitlement spending in order to restore austerity.
USfutbol 1 week ago
Absurdly over-simplistic rendition of the debt crisis, dare I say the reason the US is in this pickle in the first place... Smart people resorting to fear-mongering and lies, this is very dangerous.
If people like this guy, and the US as a country, would for once look outside its borders at countries that ARE NOT in a debt crisis, they'll see what kind of tax system keeps a country afloat. When your rich pay half the taxes of the middle class, you'll never sustain a society, PERIOD.
CoreyOgilvie 1 week ago
@CoreyOgilvie I double fucking dare you to name a country worth a damn that isn't in economic trouble?
Not that any answer would suffice because America is a totally different animal that any other country. Many, many countries spend peanuts on their defense budgets because they know the US will protect them. Many countries economies are directly tied to the US for better or for worse. You can't compare apples to oranges and expect a valid conclusion.
VegasBilgeRat 1 week ago
@VegasBilgeRat
If the Iraq and Afghan War are examples of America's protection, then I'd rather my country do without it thanks.
asdfhuliashduflasihf 1 week ago
@asdfhuliashduflasihf They're not. You're illustrating more and more that you have zero understanding what the US stands for.
The iraq war was a mistake, most of us agree with that--left and right.
Afghanistan's government protected terrorists who just murdered 3 thousand people, they got what they deserved. We shouldn't still be there, but they deserved to be bombed into dust. It had nothing to do with protection.
Kuwait wants a word with you. So does Europe.
VegasBilgeRat 1 week ago
@VegasBilgeRat
(Part 1)
Even though it’s my first comment, I already illustrate more and more how ignorant I am of what US stands for? Oh dearie me. Actually, I think I have a decent grasp on what the US stands for. Kuwait want to have a word with me? To tell me what, the benevolent selflessness of the US? US intervened in the 1991 Gulf War not out of moral courage, but because of self-interest. Kuwait had very close relations with the West, and Hussein’s attack
asdfhuliashduflasihf 1 week ago
@asdfhuliashduflasihf 7 fucking parts to your response? This isn't a forum debate, this is youtube. Say your piece and move on.
Oh and, umadbra? Got your sandy panties in a bunch real quick didn't I ?
VegasBilgeRat 1 week ago
@VegasBilgeRat
Pity.
asdfhuliashduflasihf 1 week ago
@VegasBilgeRat Only with stupid comments.
Nawor666 1 week ago
@asdfhuliashduflasihf You know I'm really bored so I'll try. With Kuwait I would say 1) who cares if we were motivated by our self-interest. Didn't make any difference to the people of Kuwait why we were there but that we were. 2) There was a still a great deal of relative selflessness as our interest in keeping peace in the world as with Kosovo and Somalia in the 90s. As far as the WWII goes, thank you for conceding that the US sacrificed considerably for Western Europe.
catholicguy20 5 days ago
@VegasBilgeRat
(Part 2)
posed a possible threat to US oil interest in the Middle East. Eagleburger argued that US acquiescence to Iraqi aggression would embolden Hussein and that Saudi Arabia might be attacked next, which was their main priority. Does Kuwait wish to tell me that? Well, I’m quite aware of how US protects its oil interests, thank you. Europe wants to tell me something as well? Perhaps to tell me about US help during WWII?
asdfhuliashduflasihf 1 week ago
@VegasBilgeRat
(Part 3)
Oh yes, US was absolutely crucial in defeating the Axis powers, but what about after? US kept “losing” requests for aid by Russia and terminated Lend-Lease aid immediately after the war. Even traditionally pro-American British lamented that it “is aggravating to find that the reward for losing a quarter of our national wealth in the common cause is to pay tribute for half a century to those who have been enriched by the war.” So yes, I am acquainted
asdfhuliashduflasihf 1 week ago
@asdfhuliashduflasihf Yes, we didn't help the Soviet Union after the war. Make no mistake we knew we were making a deal with the devil and we certainty weren't going to help them afterwards. Yes, we did terminate lend-lease after the war. That was the whole point, we lent supplies free of charge in an emergency and now that the crises was over we had the audacity to demand that we're compensated for lending material.
catholicguy20 5 days ago
@VegasBilgeRat
(Part 4)
with how US pursued its interests within Europe.
But of course, this is just one aspect. I could be ignorant of other important things of what “US stands for”. What else is there? Oh who could forget US bold efforts to protect the world from Communism? Who could forget the Bay of Pigs attack? I’m sure Cuba would like a word with you. Who could forget the Vietnam War, Johnson’s attempt to drive a wedge between the Soviet Union and China? I’m sure the local villagers
asdfhuliashduflasihf 1 week ago
@asdfhuliashduflasihf Even still, we were the nation of the Marshall Plan and the Berlin Airlift with our men protecting the West from the Soviet Union. As far as Bay of Pigs, I think that the Cubans who almost drowned coming over here would say that they wished we had succeeded. Vietnam, Nicaragua, and Indonesia, yes we aren't perfect but we were trying to win the Cold War.
catholicguy20 5 days ago
@VegasBilgeRat
(Part 5)
who suffer from the after effects of Agent Orange would also like a word with you. I’m sure Nicaragua is still waiting to have a word with the US, seeking compensation for all the damage that US sponsored as ruled by the ICJ, but we haven’t heard a thing from the US since 1986. The CIA was also complicit in stoking rumours of a Communist takeover in Indonesia, leading to the military slaughtering of millions of Chinese in 1965. I’m sure they would like
asdfhuliashduflasihf 1 week ago
@VegasBilgeRat
(Part 6)
to inform you how helpful the US has been.
Finally, who can forget? US stands for DEMOCRACY, no? Yet it deposed Mossadeq in 1953 because of oil reasons, even though Mossadeq was a moderate that many historians believe could have introduced a democratic Iran. I’m sure many of Iranians today still remember the puppet Shah which US installed in his place. Also, I’m sure Algeria has a lot to tell you too about US tacit support for the military cancelling the 1992 elections,
asdfhuliashduflasihf 1 week ago
@asdfhuliashduflasihf That being said, the US still won the Cold War. As far as Iran goes, yes we did some bad things to win the Cold war, but what would you have done differently without 20/20 hindsight. As far as the Algeria thing goes I must admit I don't know anything about it past the post 9/11 support, which yeah we were going to fight the formation of any new Islamic governments.
catholicguy20 5 days ago
@VegasBilgeRat
(Part 7)
simply because the party that won was Islamist, along with The Philippines, where the US backed Marcos even though he was an oppressive tyrant.
So yeah, I’m pretty sure what the US stands for in terms of foreign policy; the broad sweep of abstract moral principles which the US extols is (more often than not) ultimately shaped by realpolitik and self-interest.
asdfhuliashduflasihf 1 week ago
@asdfhuliashduflasihf So yes the US is flawed and I'm not going to lie we usually don't put our lives at risk if it isn't in our self-interest. Yet, ultimately we have opened countries for trade, brokered some peace in the middle east, helped to stop Hitler, stopped the Soviets, and given millions in aid. It's easy to cherry pick our failures but I ask you to name one group which has done better job as a world power: the UN, Britain, the Soviet Union, etc.
catholicguy20 5 days ago
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@catholicguy20
I've actually lost interest in this, I wrote it cos I had a lot of time on my hands and I was in a very bad mood that day. It's not particularly relevant to the video so I don't think I should drag on with it.
That being said, I don't agree with a fair bit of what you wrote. I'll either PM you my response or post it on your channel as a comment. I don't think the ppl here are too pleased with me ranting about a separate topic alrdy.
asdfhuliashduflasihf 5 days ago
@catholicguy20 No one seems to be able to answer that....
theXsynergy 4 days ago
So much wrong with this man's view point where to start. But what's the point, even If bring fact after fact. People like him won't listen to facts. So have fun in la la land.
mrburradasful 1 week ago
@mrburradasful Hello , so glad You put in your two cents worth,I suppose You can point out other videos that act as counter point........Fair and open minded.....I would appreciate
this. Perhaps on your channel ? If your view is powerful,then many excellent speakers should be highlights.
9avedon 1 week ago
Y does China keep loaning out money they know they will never get back to us?
Seems kind of like a stupid move.
China:Mmmmm... Americas seems to be 35 trillion dollars in dept and there economy is failing and there leader keeps spending money that does not exist....O well, im sure that under these conditions the Americans will be able to pay us back right? I mean, there history and economy clearly shows they can and will. Right?
DeaddudeRS 1 week ago
I certainly dont see how the Supreme Court would agree with the mandate requiring all Americans enter into contracts with private insurance companies for the purchase of their product until death. This isn't the same as states requiring auto insurance. For starters, driving is a privilege, not a right. Secondly, those who dont drive dont have to buy car insurance, so for those who equate Obamacare with auto insurance, thats comparing apples and oranges.
josephc28 2 weeks ago
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I'm still looking forward to The Cannibal Unicorn
bloodrunsclear 2 weeks ago
this video without a shadow of a doubt is created by Republicans. If both sides (Republicans and Democrats) shut up their prideful mouths and work together (like President Obama did say) us Americans all together Young and Old Black Asian Latino and White can exist as a people with our own cycle of money JOBS and medicare to love and care for each other better as a people but unfortunately Republicans has race issues and more...
DemetriusEdge 3 weeks ago
@DemetriusEdge You are clearly a Liberal, so I will give you a short explanation (so don't over-think it and hurt yourself please) 1st off I can tell you're a liberal, because you separated races, and you started saying stuff about love and care (which are meaningless words in this sense. (Also I'm half Asian, Half white, so you can't use the race card on me.) And 2nd of all, We don't "shut our prideful mouths" because there is no such thing as compromise, it's a win or lose game.
Nationofhonor 3 weeks ago
@Nationofhonor lol you're a little to cocky grow up annnnnd Wow White and Asian who can't use the race card on that note Black and Asian and White and Asian mixed is almost my whole family so ooooooooh big deal "NOT" any way it doesn't matter what you reply back with because you're a puppet bye :)
DemetriusEdge 3 weeks ago
@Nationofhonor I agree with this sentiment. It is a win or lose situation. If there is anything wrong with the right, it is that they have compromised too much already and they have indulged the Democrats too much. How's that working out fer ya? With a little more prodding from the only group that makes sense, the Tea party, they can grow a pair and become not just the party of no, but the party of F*** NO!
Ken1Nickels1 2 weeks ago
@DemetriusEdge We aren't going to compromise with stupid people, we are going to get a free market which will create wealth and lower the cost of living through competition and will make our country prosper, we are not going to compromise with the same idiots whose policies caused the bubble economy.
d3ltadrive 2 weeks ago
@d3ltadrive talk to me when you get a picture for your youtube
DemetriusEdge 2 weeks ago
@DemetriusEdge It's funny that you can't debate with me so you make fun of my not having a picture for my account. It's not too late to become a conservative and have some intelligence, you don't have to stay diseased by the horrible mental condition that is liberalism all your life.
d3ltadrive 2 weeks ago
@d3ltadrive it's funny I use less time to reply back then you use to realize sad you are. Sad enough to have nothing more to do but waste your life thinking childishly upon how to insult me with false Medical information (get a life).
DemetriusEdge 2 weeks ago
@DemetriusEdge I never spoke about medical information, I spoke about economic information.
d3ltadrive 2 weeks ago
Paul Ryan's plan is a lot better then Obama's, but I still think it's too moderate. We need no federal income tax unless we are at war, which should only be entered if we are in immediate danger. We need to privatize social security and medicare, and we need to end corporatism and leave all companies open to free competition. We need 0 government regulation. We need Laissez Faire.
d3ltadrive 3 weeks ago
What is really scary is how many republicans no longer believe in the free market, or only pay it lip service. I watch the Republican debates and it sounds like they had their platform written by the democrat party. hiring subsidies, protectionist tariffs, and state run socialized health care, you can't fix the problems caused by socialist sabotage, with more socialism, only getting government out of the market altogether can bring this country back.
halloranedward 4 weeks ago 2
An entire video of straw man arguments. Congratulations.
nixthenamed 1 month ago
@nixthenamed
Which part?
AUScorpion 1 month ago in playlist Andrew Klavan
@AUScorpion hey! no fair using logic and reason on liberals! that's cruel !
halloranedward 4 weeks ago
@Reido2828. Read Ryan's proposal yourself and see how you'll get gypped by the medical companies just so you can have access to basic medical needs.
jeebedon 1 month ago
@jeebedon Let's leave the Gypsies out of this. The competitive system supplies your food. Does the grocery store cheat you? NO! It is regulated by its competitors, and medical practitioners will be limited by the same system under the Ryan plan.
GarrettPetersen 1 month ago in playlist Andrew Klavan
Wow Klavan, hiw fair and balanced your smackdown coverage is! Not saying that Obamacare is a good plan, but this is just bad information rallying.
jeebedon 1 month ago
@jeebedon
Read the bill your self and see how FUCKED IT IS AND HOW BROKE WE'LL BE AT THE END:)
Reido2828 1 month ago
@jeebedon The sky is orange. See, I can make assertions without proof also!
david52875 1 month ago
cyberlee....you are a joke.
ROSKER48 3 months ago
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RON PAUL 2012!!!
Pathfinder634 3 months ago
Entitlements by their very nature are un-American. The only thing we're entitled to is equal opportunity. The same kind of opportunity as people like Steve Jobs, and Bill Gates who had humble beginnings.
Look at the top 10% of Americans and see how many of them started in the bottom 1/3. No where else can that happen except in a free capitalist society. Obama doesn't understand that. As to taking care of the less fortunate, that's up to us as a people, NOT the government as a collective.
DesertPirate55 3 months ago 2
He didn't even bother explaining Obama's plan into detail. He instead ridiculed it and never bothered to explain it in a serious way. This video was a complete joke.
cyberlee 3 months ago
@cyberlee um what? He did. Obama's plan is a joke.
solidstinch 3 months ago
@cyberlee Hard to explain in 4 minutes a 1,000+ page bill. I think the joke is on the people who passed it claim to have gotten it read in the few days before the vote.
JadeTsukiuta 1 month ago
GOP's Paul Ryan uses"projection"when ACCUSING Obama of"class warfare". CLASS WARFARE is what REPUBLICAN$ have been waging for the last 30 yrs. Since the Reagan& Bush tax cuts, the wealthest have been paying less tax than at anytime in America's history. More jobs have been lost in said period than at anytime since 1929. PAULIE,everyone form NY to Janesville,WI (your hometown)to Seattle knows that YOU are out to DESTROY MEDICARE..TAKE YOUR CORPORATE DONATIONS& RETIRE.YOU'RE FINISHED.
poindexterwitkowsky 3 months ago
@Awesome61696, you asserted that, "Entitlements aren't at the root of our debt problems." You are partially correct, the root of the our problems is that we have disregarded the Constitutional limitation on spending...specifically that charity is not authorized. (I asked you earlier to find that clause which authorized this activity)
That includes SSI, Medicare, Welfare (corporate & individual), Foreign Aid, and any other "social" program.
tgrove2 4 months ago
@AWesome61696, your response that appeals to "every other first world country" having healthcare guaranteed by the government is a logical fallacy...just because everyone believes something is right doesn't make it so...to wit, most use to think the world was flat...were they right?
Let's start at the beginning: Please cite the specific authority in the Constitution granting the federal government the power to provide healthcare (or any charity for that matter) for the citizenry.
tgrove2 4 months ago
This wuold be funny if it wasn't true. God help our Country.
patearp1 4 months ago
@Kesselster, a clarification:
I didn't say "Government-run health care" is a Constitutional right...
I said that as a Constitutional right, an INDIVIDUAL can pursue "healthcare" as a part of his pursuit of happiness (as long as it doesn't infringe on another's rights). I also specifically said that it was not an entitlement (implying one must work and pay for his healthcare) and that it was THEFT if one was forced to pay for another individual's healthcare.
We are on the same side :)
tgrove2 4 months ago
@tgrove2 Oh, okay, my mistake then. I've been debating on youtube all week. I apologize for my belligerence.
kesselster 4 months ago
@NewWorldAhead, health care is a part of the pursuit of happiness...it is an individual right, not an entitlement whereby you force another person to use the products (money) of his life and liberty to make you happy! That's called theft.
As to "gay marriage", I don't care if you enjoy sticking your penis in a man's anus in your home...but stop forcing it on us as "normal"...it is not normative in nature, not consistent with your "god" evolution, & certainly an abomination to the one true God.
tgrove2 4 months ago
@tgrove2 No it's not. Health care is not a Constitutional right. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are. Government-run health care is not sustainable; look at any type of government-run entity, they perform poorly. I, as anyone else, has the right to protect the money I make from the work that I do. It's my right and duty to defend my private property.
kesselster 4 months ago
@kesselster Healthcare should be a right. It's either a right or a guranateed service in every other first world country on the planet. Why shouldn't it be a right?
AWesome61696 4 months ago
@AWesome61696 Because, if it's a right or a service, someone else must be legally bound to provide it. Plus, people constantly take advantage of social programs that already exist. In addition, those programs are poorly run, inefficient, and are unfair to those who pay and earn nothing back from those who take. One last point: look at Cuba's health care system, it's appalling. Look at North Korea's--well, just look at North Korea.
kesselster 4 months ago
@kesselster Yes, the government should be legally bound to provide healthcare through paying for cheap insurance for people who can't afford it. That's exactly what Obamacare is all about, and thats why I support it. Cuba and North Korea are communist states, you shouldn't compare.
AWesome61696 4 months ago
@AWesome61696 It simply won't work though. I was comparing their health care systems; you brought it up. I am well aware of what they are. And that is an appropriate comparison. Look at what the government runs.
kesselster 4 months ago
@AWesome61696 "Sanity is not statistical," wrote George Orwell. Just because everyone else says something is right doesn't make it right. The guarantee of healthcare is a product of the entitlement society. Most of Europe is made up of these governments, and they're falling as fast, or faster, than the United States. Just look at Greece.
gryphonlaments 4 months ago
@gryphonlaments Entitlements aren't at the root of our debt problems. From 1945 to 1975, the USA paid down most of it's debt while expanding entitlements like Medicare. Ronald Reagan increased our debt four-fold because of military spending, not entitlement spending, and very expensive trickle-down economics. The Greek people don't have the American work ethic that allows our country to run relatively successful entitlement programs.
AWesome61696 4 months ago
@AWesome61696 Military spending does have a huge effect on the debt, and in many cases more than that of entitlements, although you were incorrect in saying that Reagan quadrupled the debt, Bush the senior did. That is obviously not all that increases the debt though. Bush the Junior increased the debt by about $5.5 trillion in eight years where Obama increased it approximately $4 trillion in three, and the major part of the wars in Irag and Afghanistan were fought under Bush.
gryphonlaments 4 months ago
@AWesome61696 Obama being far more partial to entitlements, like Obamacare, has been far more detrimental to the economy. If he continues spending as he has, and wins the next election, we'll face 10 and a half trillion dollars added to the national debt since his inauguration. He has resorted to Keynesian tactics to fix our economic crisis, and, so far, it has done nothing but make the problem worse.
gryphonlaments 4 months ago
@gryphonlaments Entitlements being deterimental to the economy is bull. Entitlements increase the purchasing power of the lower-to-middle class and stimulate growth. He has spent alot, yes, and I agree that the debt should be brought down, but right now the govt. must spend alot. Keynesian economics is brillant when put into practice.
Obama is far more Clintonian than Keynesian. A Keynesian wouldn't cut entitlements like Obama has proposed for Medicare and Social Security.
AWesome61696 4 months ago
@AWesome61696 Entitlements hardly increase the purchasing power of the lower to middle class. They still pay it in taxes, and this way it is directed to things which are merely "for their own protection." Take Obamacare for example. It is meant to protect people who get ill financially. We all still end up paying for it in taxes, and it destroys the competitiveness of health insurance provider. They know that people have to have health insurance, so they can jack up their prices.
gryphonlaments 3 months ago
@gryphonlaments Yes but richer people pay more in taxes, thus the entitlement programs in this country are mostly covered by the upper-income class. You're making a good argument with the healthcare issue, and your probably right. It does hinder on competition. But all Americans are entitlted to it.
AWesome61696 3 months ago
@NewWorldAhead...LOL 2 weeks to come up with that?! Come on man! Some simple concepts; the 3rd is conditional:
Life (either being alive or dead, not the quality of living)
Liberty (the right to do as you see fit as long as it doesn't take away another's rights)
Pursuit of Happiness (the right to the opportunity to do what you like)
Killing an unborn child denies the unalienable right to life, thus it is not a right at all.
tgrove2 4 months ago
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DownrightUprightShow 4 months ago
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ANDREW KLAVAN is a college drop-out. He is an uneducated BUM. Andrew is just mad because no one watches his movies or buys his books. He thinks no one likes him because he is racist. NOPE. No one likes you because you are a talentless hack. Like all miserable people you strive to 'bring down' the world around you.
Kingphilosophy 5 months ago
How can u be a facist and a liberal? Two different thing dumbass. It wasn't liberal policy to have tax cuts, start two wars that we borrowed money from a communist country to pay for which we hate commies. I don't think the founding fathers would like corporations ruling America.
korymettler 5 months ago
@korymettler actually ....liberal democrats ...tend to be fascist......and corporations have no power over you ..... absolutely no power over you ....think about (FORD) the company having power over you .....you delusional idiot
TheJasonDR 5 months ago
@korymettler If you hate corporations, then why are you posting on youtube? It is owned by google, a corporation. I won't believe that you dislike corporations till you stop posting on youtube.
acmna 5 months ago
You can always tell when you are winning an argument with a lefty, they play the racism card.
JackyB92 5 months ago
I'm pretty sure that you Sir are a funny, clever fuc*er.
Munnchbunnch 6 months ago
Thanks to liberal policy the world economy is crashing. We must do two things to stop the meltdown NOW!!! Firstly, we need to raise all payroll taxes 10% for one year. We also need to stop (right now) wasteful handout programs like medicare, social security, unemployment,, etc. and lower the minimum wage to $2/hr so we can compete with China. I will work with Paul Ryan and my other republican colleagues and take immediate action on these proposals. God bless the GOP!
GOPkicksbutt 6 months ago
nice racist chinese characture
zegermans750 6 months ago
@zegermans750
True... teabaggers are racists.... thanks for proving my point.
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead 4 u, racism = disagreement. The moment a person differs from the Lefties that person is called a racist. Repubs, TP ppl, conservatives & Libertarians ALL are called racists, b/c they disagree & that is how it works.
Real racists = the Left. Why? B/c they dictate to Blacks & other non-Whites how to think & if they differ at all, they get called names such as Uncle Tom, , token, etc. Look at Alan West. Lefties have no respect for him, b/c he is Black & doesn't kiss their butts.
Aegius 6 months ago
@Aegius
Dude, you are so full of the proverbial bull's doo doo that I won't even talk about it. I will let your comment stand. Teabaggers ARE racists, homophobes, xenophobes, and any other phobe there is . So take your Fox News shit and shove it up your... LOLOL
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
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@NewWorldAhead No. Lefties are the real racists as they dictate to Blacks & other non-Whites are racists how to think via race. Here is the smoking gun: watch?v=MA-F5UW-XXk
Same applies to women so they are sexist too. Just look at the last election: No Repub woman got any respect from the Lefties. None, b/c they are women.
Gays? No one asks at TP events if a person is gay, so nice try. Now take your MSNBC BS and shove in the trash racist, bigoted, Left-wing Fascist thug.
Aegius 6 months ago
I'm sorry, this isn't racist... it's sexist: Fuck you!
drewjohnson61 5 months ago
@zegermans750 What racist caricature? I didn't think that depiction of a Chinese person was racist at all. Many peasants working in rice fields and others in various professions have hats like that. So what?
You're just engaging in silly nit-picking.
Aegius 6 months ago
In Australia's medicare system, all money earners pay tax towards a national Medicare system, but if you earn over a certain amount (around $55,000 pa) you can also buy private health insurance, crediting this towards your tax deductions. This ensures that all citizens are covered for their essential healthcare needs - while those that wish to avail themselves of higher levels of health attention, can buy it. Like all essentially socialist-inspired systems, it works best when the economy works.
Countrygent100 6 months ago
You picked the wrong Paul.
edgarortega 6 months ago
Not one fact in the whole video, just propaganda.
sxewas 6 months ago
@sxewas grow up.
Jacob2Israel 6 months ago
@sxewas
thank you, I totally agree
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
Obama will not have a second term.
RedSkyNord 6 months ago
@GreatPOPMusicChannel I agree but that will never happen. I have great respect for Ron Paul but reason his ideas will never come to pass is bec they are too radical in the sense that Americans live in a dream world. In a world of unicorns and fairies, its hard to talk reality.So when Ron Paul talks reality, everyone goes crazy and that is why a common sense leader will NEVER get elected in a country that still believes in the tooth fairy. Paul Ryan knows how to take it one step at a time.
divinenuker 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead,
What specific authority within the U.S. Constitution grants the power to provide for these charities: SSI, Medicare, Obamacare, personal and corporate welfare, etc. (please be specific on article, section, and paragraph).
Our country is based upon life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness; what power has been granted to the federal gov't by the States to murder (take innocent life), to instill forms of slavery (take liberty), or steal (take the product of life and liberty)?
tgrove2 6 months ago
@tgrove2
Oh, please you "holier than thou" corporate elitist hack. Who are you fooling? I know there is nothing in the Constitution that states the govt should provide SSI, Medicare etc. But let me tell you one thing, the middle class made this country and without those programs it will unmake it. You can keep professing your teabagging ways and try convincing me you are a regular working class person but I don't believe it. Most people on here are rich or somehow connected to money.
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead Try a cogent (relevant/persuasive) response to my simple question:
The Constitution has several foundational principles; the Declaration of Independence specifies the following: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Do you accept and support the above "self-evident" truths, as true, or do you reject them?
tgrove2 5 months ago
@tgrove2
Are you on crack dude? You again just proved yourself complete wrong! Life (health care), liberty (gay marriage, woman's right to choose) and pursuit of happiness (does not having health care make one happy)? LOLOLOL
NewWorldAhead 4 months ago
You are all idiots who agree with this fucking pinhead. Ok, so you're ok with rich hedge fund managers, aristocrats and corporate elitists having tons of money, but you aren't ok with grandma having Medicare or SSI? We are the richest fucking country in the world and we can't help our needy? Funny how Germany, Japan, France etc. (who aren't as wealthy by the way) CAN assist the sick, poor and elderly. Hmmm. Now what morons? Pwned.
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead You know.......if you TAX the rich who just happen to be small buisnesses that are included in that 250,000 a year income than they will be less likely to hire you. Just thought you should know that the so called RICH .they pay for 48% of Americans tax's and you want to punish them more..Start your own buisness and find out just how much you have to pay in to it JUST TO STAY AFLOAT. I am sure that you would rather keep some of that money that you have earned.
Armysniper72 6 months ago
@Armysniper72
Well, I didn't say tax the working class... I said tax the super duper rich. Listen.
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead Calling other people "idiots" doesn't make you smart. You have proved that. "Super Duper Rich". What is that anyway? The Top 5% income earners in the US pay for over 60% of US Tax Receipts. So you want to increase government spending and then make the top 5% pay for what? 70% 80% 90%? If you have any pertinent knowledge regarding recent CBO estimates, you would know that even if the top 5% are taxed 100% of their income, it would make little difference regarding the debt crisis...
divinenuker 6 months ago
@divinenuker
Yes, idiot. Even the S&P says that revenues must be include in bringing up America's rating. Duh.
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead Do you understand the concept that spending LESS money has the same effect as raising revenue? Or are you really that ignorant? You are not even worth talking to. Sorry but I have wasted my time arguing with a brick wall. Probably my fault for giving you that much credit. Bye
divinenuker 6 months ago
@divinenuker
Ok, so let me get this straight. By cutting taxes (revenue) from very rich people (some who ARE NOT corporations but just old money) which goes into the government (which the government pays for you SSI, Medicare, infrastructure, etc.), this is supposed to be better for us? I see, so less SSI and Medicare for the elderly, crappy roads etc., but giving rich people more money (instead of buying 8 yachts now they can buy 22), this is going to be better for us? LOLOLOL
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead There will be no such thing as Medicare in 2017 because it is going bankrupt. CBO has estimated this already. You don't seem to understand that RICH people pay close to 60-70 % of tax receipts in this country. I asked you earlier. How much do you want them to pay? 100%? You didn't answer. Even if you say 100%, that is barely going to put a dent. Look at Paul Ryan's medicare solution, which benefits lower income earners while giving substantially less benefits to rich old people.
divinenuker 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead Your feeble mind seems to think that the only "rich" people in this country are billionaire playboys with nothing productive to do. Let me ask you this. Where do you work? (If you even have a job). Unless you are self-employed, you are getting a paycheck from a company. That company is paying the 2nd highest corporate tax rate in the world [next to Japan]. You want them to pay more? I'm sorry to say but you'll loose your job if they pay any more. Not sure if you want that...
divinenuker 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead And when I say less government spending, your narrow liberal view of thinking automatically tells you, that less gov. spending means less for SSI/Medi/Infras... You don't understand about tort reform, wasteful spending, reforming the tax code to cut on WASTEFUL spending, so money can actually GO TO SSI / MEDICARE/ INFRASTRUCTURE instead of being literally wasted in sustaining bureaucratic institutions. You don't understand the concept of efficiency. Putting $100 into an..cont'd
divinenuker 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead 'cont'd. 80% efficient system will yield a $80 benefit. Putting $200 into a wasteful program with a 20% efficiency will only yield a $40 benefit. So even though you are spending twice as much money, you are only getting half the benefit. Its counter productive. Point being, even if you double the size of an inefficient government by taking EVERY SINGLE PENNY from "Rich billionaire playboys" and pump it into an inefficient system. The result will be less than satisfactory. Think
divinenuker 6 months ago
@divinenuker
Look, Mr. Genius, all I know is that working class people are losing. When George Bush lowered taxes drastically (two times I might add), this economy should've been booming! Especially while we were fightting 2 wars which usually stimulate the economy (i.e, airplanes, construction, weapons etc.) Well, guess what? We almost went into a depression right before Obama came into office. Under advice from many leading economists, Obama initiated a stimulus which (cont.)
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
@divinenuker
caused the country to go into a recovery, even though it was a slight one. Jobs are actually coming back, ever so slightly as well. Why is the recovery sluggish? Because of the tea bagging idiots that were elected by uninformed Americans who thought by electing them the economy would improve quicker. Ha! No such luck.
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
@divinenuker
To answer your dumb question, I believe the tax code should be graduated. Higher earners paying a higher percentage tax rate and lower earners paying a lower one. If you make under 30,000, you should pay NADA. Now who's lowering taxes, me or you, Einstein?
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead That is already the reality. I have no problem doing that. The PROBLEM, however, is that will NOT solve the $14 Trillion debt CRISIS. People making under 30,000 get FAT juicy tax refunds which I endorse. You want them to get more juicy refunds. I accept. That's fine. Now letsmove on to the actual elephant in theroom. Raising a littlebit of Revenuewill not turnoverour fiscal fiat based corrupt monetary system to magically cure itself. The problem with our economy is more tthn that.
divinenuker 6 months ago
@divinenuker
I agree. But gutting SSI and Medicare isn't the answer. Raising revenue and cutting back on spending a bit and ending the wars would help.
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead I didn't think it could happen but we agree. Btw: Who is "gutting Medicare"? Medicare is going to go INSOLVENT in 2017... that means Dead, Bankrupt. Obama's healthcare plan guts $500 Billion from medicare, and has NOT a single piece of legislation that saves medicare from going Bankrupt. I advise you to check out Paul Ryan's Medicare Bill, that gives more money to low income earners and saves it from bankruptcy. I agree with you on SSI though even though its also bankrupt.....
divinenuker 6 months ago
@divinenuker
Paul Ryan is a douchbag. All he cares about are the fat cats and corporate elitists. We agreed until you mentioned him. His plan is the WORST possible solution. By raising revenue on the highest income earners and ending the wars, we will have enough money to fund Medicare.
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead Sorry no we won't. You just haven't done the math. Medicare is a 38 Trillion Dollar unfunded liability. Your dreaming.
divinenuker 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead LOL. The defense budget with libya and afghanistan only make up 16% of the deficit. Entitlements are the problem
ltkhokie1 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead
explain 2 things for me please.....1.what is a corporation?.........2.why is there a line on my paycheck that says so much is taken out for SSI Medicare? (since the gov't pays for it,as you claim,it shouldnt be there)
Hoschi0913 6 months ago
@Hoschi0913
Because it's taken out for YOUR benefit. No one should receive your SSI but you and no one should receive your Medicare but you since you've paid into the system.
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead
ok cool,but you say "should",which implies that it is used for someone else rather than me only and what about that money in case i die before iam "elegible" to recieve my "benefits" from what i payed in,who gets it? or what about it when i do not make use of it (due to a lottery win as example) and there is still the question of what a corporation is
Hoschi0913 6 months ago
@Hoschi0913
Well, that's my point. If we stick with Dems we will definitely have SSI and Medicare. Go with Repubs, and SSI will be sharply cut and Medicare will become a voucher program.
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead
I dont see it like that,since the dems are in charge (with Obama) and they use it for someone else right now,iam sure there wont be any that i get,even i pay into it right now,anyhow guess i will see,so whats your definition of corporations ?
Hoschi0913 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead cont'd. Taking all of Brad Pitts money isn't going to make a dent in the $14 Trillion debt or the $38 Trillion medicare unfunded liability or the other hundreds of trillions in health care costs, pension, etc. Just because you have failed at life and don't make a decent wage, doesn't mean you should take your frustrations on the "Super Duper Rich" and let the govt. take all their money, bec. even if they do.. it'll make no diff. Why? We have a spending problem. Not a revenue one.
divinenuker 6 months ago
@divinenuker
I have succeeded in life because I have many people around me who support and love me. You, on the other hand, are a corporatist hack, trying to pass for a normal working class American. You are probably one of those people making over $250,000 and now you're crying cause the President and the S & P want to tax you some more, wahhhhhhhhhh cry baby, too damn bad.
NewWorldAhead 6 months ago
@NewWorldAhead Nope you have proved yourself to be an idiot again. I am 21 years old and about to graduate from college with a Mechanical Engineering degree. My dad has been working for the past 35 years. I make over $250,000? I wish. My family has trouble paying bills at the end of the month. You don't know anything about me so don't pretend any different. I'm just smart enough to understand how the US government works. You apparently watch too much corporate media and are clearly brainwashed
divinenuker 6 months ago
@GreatPOPMusicChannel And getting rid of the damned Fed.
kesselster 7 months ago
Love Klavan. This man is a freaking genius.
FubarAlAkbar 7 months ago
Thanks to liberal policies America can no longer afford to pay for medicare, social security, unemployment and many other services. We also need to lower the minimum wage to $2/hr in order to compete with China and bring jobs back home. Fiscally responsible conservatives like Paul Ryan and Michele Bachmann know this and are currently
working to end these wasteful handout programs and bring the minimum wage down so that America can be great again. God bless the GOP!
GOPkicksbutt 7 months ago
@GOPkicksbutt Um. I agree with most of what you say, but lowering the minimum wage to $2 an hr would have most people starving to death. They would barely make enough to pay for gas. Granted that minimum wage should be for high school kids on a summer job or kids that are out of school. Higher paying jobs for a higher education. Was that what you were referring to?
Armysniper72 6 months ago
*below* It's not a mistake... he's speaking of our ability to pay the INTEREST on the loan... actually paying the principal? We're a long way off.
laughingtiger123 7 months ago
One large mistake in this video @3:37. China doesn't want us to pay off the loan... They WANT us to keep paying interest on the loan. Why would a Credit Card company want you to pay off your card if you never miss a payment?
ladefreakndah 7 months ago
@ladefreakndah credit card companies don't have political designs. IF China ever decided to move against the United States, they could cripple us before even firing the first shot.
TheSchaef47 7 months ago
What...? Economic system failed because of greedy Rich people and stupid Poor people trying to live beyond their means..? Why, we can always use the same old get-out-of-jail-free card we've always used! That's right, folks!
WAR!
When things go really stinky and smelly America can just sit back waiting to be asked by the World to sort out all its problems by stepping in and fighting in one of those idiotic wars they started.
Then, when everything's fixed up...
... they'll blame us! Fun!
Countrygent100 7 months ago
I always enjoy coming on this idiot Klavan's page to get a good laugh. It is PROVEN he is a corporate lobbyist trying to promote this idiotic plan of taking Medicare, Social Security and every other social safety net away from the working class. Interesting how he doesn't discuss revenue! The corporations and the rich are making MORE money than EVER before and are being taxed at the LOWEST rates than ever before. So who's listening to this snake oil salesman anyway? Oh, yea, other lobbyists lol
NewWorldAhead 7 months ago
@NewWorldAhead Your an idiot.
The gap between the rich and the poor means NOTHING.
If next year, the rich per capital increased 1 million dollars, the middle class per capital increased 10 thousand dollars, and the poor increased their per capital by 1 thousand dollars, the LEFT would BE EVEN MORE FURIOUS than before simply because the gap between the rich and the poor has widened even though all classes have benefited.
The gap between rich and poor means nothing. Get a clue
superlucci 7 months ago
Yeah, that's pretty accurate!
jepst41 7 months ago
You could have done a good job of actually talking about the differences between these two plans, but instead you took an extremely biased view. (This is coming from an economist who actually supports the Ryan plan over Obama)
pinkycatcher 7 months ago
Don't forget about what Henry Morganthau, FDR's own treasury secretary, said in 1939 (facing 20% unemployment): "We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we ever have spent before and it does not work...I say after 8 years of this [FDR] Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started...and an enormous debt to boot!"
CrimsonDynasty323 7 months ago
If we never had the Bush tax cut, Medicare part D (Pfizer approved), and these unpaid for wars (which were terribly handled by the Bush Admin). We wouldn't even have a debt crisis. If only Gore had got elected...
joshuancts 7 months ago
The Ryan plan should be called the road to serfdom. Yeah lets destroy medicare (the real death panels), increase military spending (700 billion a year ATT) and give the rich who now own 80% of all wealth another 10% tax break. Our children;s education and health care who needs it! The republicans of today are TRAITORS AND THIS DOUCHE IS THEIR SPOKESMAN!!!
joshuancts 7 months ago
@Distortion0
The Failure of the New Economics
google failureofneweconomics.pdf
There you go, free. Ten times more logical than LK's General Theory.
And you never read General Theory. You only read re-interpretations of General Theory. I have and it's more incoherent than the Bible.
Read Failure and General Theory. One makes sense, and one not only doesn't make sense, it's nigh insane.If you're drawn to reason you can and will realize you've been duped.
logim8 7 months ago
What always amazes me about Keynsian economic theory is that anyone actually believes it can work at all. If any individual or private company tried to spend their way out of debt, they'd end up bankrupt so fast it'd make their head spin. Only the feds are so far out in La-La Land that they think they can spend money they don't have and somehow make more money out of it. How in the hell did we let the federal government get this stupid?
frongjumping 7 months ago
Correction. Sorry, but I have made a mistake in my previous comment. Apparently, Keynesian economics believe that the economy should be driven by credit, not savings, so Klavan's depiction of Keynesian economics is frighteningly accurate. Credit driven growth is what caused the Great Depression (or more accurately, the cause of artificial growth), which is bad (obviously). Which probably proves Obama is an idiot who claims to be a student of history, who really doesn't know any history.
Greedyspectator 8 months ago
@Greedyspectator There are multiple theories on what caused the great depression. Some say it was the gap between rich and poor. Which is what is happening now. Some say Keynesian economics is what got us out of the GD. There is not enough consensus for anyone to say with 100% certainty.
joshuancts 7 months ago
@Greedyspectator you are so right man.That's what you get when they elect a community organizer who is only good in theory.Look at the state that is run by democrats its all bankrupt.
Mr1phoenix 7 months ago
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Thanks to liberal policies America can no longer afford to pay for medicare, social security, unemployment and many other services. We also need to lower the minimum wage to $2/hr in order to compete with China and bring jobs back home. Fiscally responsible conservatives like Paul Ryan and Michele Bachmann know this and are currently
working to end these wasteful handout programs and bring the minimum wage down so that America can be great again. God bless the GOP!
GOPkicksbutt 8 months ago
@Distortion0 - Google Peter Schiff was Right and read Ron Paul's book that was written in 2002
shotsky94 8 months ago
@rdubwiley Yup exactly. Just read the book please. The keynesians took control of the universities a long time ago probably beginning in the 60s and now they are waging full time war on little kids brains.
shotsky94 8 months ago
@rdubwiley From your profile, you're a college student who has probably been indoctrinated into the keynesian mindset. So please just read the The Failure of the New Economics by Henry Hazlitt. It offers the best expose of the fallacious keynesian model that I can think of
shotsky94 8 months ago
@shotsky94 If by indoctrinated you mean taught the standard model of economics everyone learns in macro. I'll take a look at it, though.
rdubwiley 8 months ago
@shotsky94 I'm a Keynesian. I'm willing to read this book. Do you know where I can get it for free? I'm not willing to actually pay for it until I have some guarantee of quality.
Distortion0 8 months ago