@BZLentertainment u fuckers eat shit moslem pedophiles not worth the steam of my piss to good for the cunt mohammmed a shit be on to drink;;;;;;;; fuck u dont forget the armenians the fucking turking murdered and now in africa killing millions I wish Israel does kill all the fucking moslems and destroy all the fucking mosques what you fuckers able to do Jack shit.... we eat u whore for breakfast
Iran should drop two nuclear bombs on Tel Aviv and Haifa.It is very easy to wipe of a tiny state like Israel.
Two nuclear bombs would erase their race.Europe have kicked the jew out like a peace of shit.Now it is the turn of the Middle East to kicke the JAHUDI.God is hating the jahudi.This is why God has punished them very hard and promised to spread them all over the world.And in fact they were lost for 2000 years.
@OrdNaor hatred? dumbass, look what you guys do all the time, attacking palestinians kids, beating harmless boys going to their school, watching a guarddog attacking harmless womens while enjoying the view, what hatred? what holocaust! you are starting all this shits and another one, blooddiamonds in congo? rings a bell in your head? all your doing....no wonder hitler wanted get ride of you people...only misfortune to the world society
@OrdNaor When i used the word "holocaust"? First of all read my message! I meaned: We(Turks) help you ever time ´cuz we are loving people, who are oppresing but some people of you thinking we are murder.
At first, you must look on the mirror and then you can talking with me about murdering people!
@jsbeard18 It was all in war time !!! What about the belgians killing in congo? The USA win Iraq, japan, indians, etc.. ; The french with almost whole africa?, the serbs in kosovo and bosnia??? Turks never kill hulmans if they don't attack them.
@jsbeard18 because this wasnt happened dumbass...those folks backstabbed us so we drove them away, some turkish people may have murdered them but you should expect that they also murdered turks...dont claim all the sad things and damages on the liars
its not war. u can't kill 1.5 million armenians and say, "yea it was war, they had shells and stray bullets fall on them."
they werent killed in the middle of battles and fighting, they were removed from their homes, and marched into the desert, shot and starved to death. because the turks thought "they were working against turkey with the russians".
there are arabs in israel...if israel is so evil, why haven't they killed the arabs in israel, for being traitors?
Movies are all Propaganda and unrealistic. Anybody can act like Rambo on a movie set . The reality is that Israel has over 200 nuclear weapons and some of them are on German built, super-silent submarines called "Dolphin Class" subs. So everybody can be screaming all this Rhetoric about "kicking ass" but the fact is Turkey has 0 nukes and Israel 200. You do not even have to do the math.
Very good, cant wait to watch that movie. Let's hear and see other side of the story. I'm seek and tired of this official version brought by media which mostly controled by jewish community. Shame on jews for all the misery they cause to palestines and others. Very few dare to openly condemn them. Well done Turks! May God help you! Down with the sionism!
oh to all you haters, just like how the germans today arent responsible for what happened in the past (or the americans for the treatment of slaves and native americans), then we cant expect a nation decades later to be responsible for the past either. why dont we talk about genocides happening today instead of dwelling on the long gone past?!
Has anybody ever suggested that any of the soldiers who boarded the ship initially were carrying and using automatic weapons! I guess the priorities for the film producers was to generate hate first , add drama second and to convey the truth last
I hope Israel release a film about the Armenian Genocide,
FYI the fictional storyline is a blatant rip off of 'Munich'
FYI: Valley of the Wolves is an ultra-nationalist, violence-addicted franchise produced by ultra-nationalist conservatives...its content is often almost racist & full of hate speech on any non-Turkish group, their messages are against a plural Turkey as well
@habby06 armenians killed thousands of muslims and ottomans had to mov them from anatolia to syria if there was an armenain genocide todey their population wouldn't be 8 million ok???also turks always help jews plz dont forget
@ultraturkishdelight sorry i don't buy into your propaganda. the turks committed a genocide against the armenians and have yet to apologize. the world knows it and is waiting...
@habby06 Turkey already made one, excellent movie where you can see how the armenians massacred turkish civilians. I am from east Anatolia, and there are lot of mass graves done by armenians. So stop blubbering about armenian genocide, If the ottomans would have done such thing, then there would be no ermenians around today.
@Ezzedeen01 Refusal to admit conflicting evidence displays the UNHRC report's bias on the investigation. In a court of law, the refusal to admit evidence that conflicts with, for instance, the prosecution's POV, is biased and not 'independent'.
1. Again you and other Israeli-firsters opinion that the report and the panel didn't admit conflicting evidence. The fact that they included the correspondence of the Israeli ambassador IN THE ACTUAL REPORT.
2. Actually the panel is and was unbiased and independent. They never indicated that they were "steered" but that they were independent and impartial throughout the mission
Poor Turks. How can they even start to get a grasp of reality if this is what they are fed. No wonder they get mad if genocide against Armenians is mentioned. Or Kurds. Or the fact that they may not be able to feed the whole world. Or that Ataturk's legacy is going to be lost- the way they are going now.
Once you start pulling wool over your eyes... you eventualy have to blow your lies out of every proportion. Like nazis. Like the lie this movie is trying to promote.
hahahahahaha, that guy looks like some weird mix between an arab and an albino fat kid. But I guess the Arabs need something to look up to. Most Arabs grow up in a world where they have nothing to look up to. Their dad failed to provide them with a proper house, food, and and life. Their countries failed to provide them with education or even a job. And their religion deceived them into believing things that most of the world finds comical.
All i hear is you whining. I made you look like an ignorant imbecile because you couldn't do a speck of research and relied on rhetoric, demagoguery, and opinion.
@Ezzedeen01 No, its the legal argument which says whether its legal or not.
No response to retorsion then.
Israel has no obligation to keep buying produce, which is the brunt of Gaza's economy, if its Hamas makes money off of taxes. Egypt can allow in more produce if its so concerned about Gazans. This answers the 'collective punishment' bit.
DOn't need to respond, the ICRC, UNHCR, and many other organizations have said all thats needed to be said in far better words.
2. Not according to the ICRC apparently. They being a highly intelligent organization don't eat the Israeli bullshit propaganda and pseudo facts and law the rest of the Israeli-firsters do
1. What did i tell you about researching your bullshit before you spew it? 3rd time its happened and 3rd time i have smacked you in the face with your words
2. Just waiting for you and other Israel-firsters to call the ICRC an anti-semitic organization, since that is your default when you can't win an argument.
Or how about calling the National Lawyers Guild anti-semitic even though they advocated for Jews and blacks to be admitted to the Bar when the ABA would not
1. Its only in your opinion and that of Israeli-firsters that that this report was pre-determined guilt.
2. The Geneva Convention is a legal document, stating that Israel has violated a legal document is a legal position. A bit confusing for rhetoric driven Israel-firsters, i know, but you'll get their
3. Just beating you to the punch, after all, apparently jews can be anti-semitic too
@Ezzedeen01 Sure GC is a legal document. The interpretation of 'collective punishment' and ignoring the practice of retorsion, against Hamas in this case, is legal opinion.
Can see the knee-jerk 'israel-firsters' being in the brunt of your posts, and hey, the anti-semitism card, yet again.
1. You said "ICRC has no legal stance" so again, i prove you wrong.
2. According to you and other Israeli firsters they are "ignoring the practice of retorsion"
3. No anti-semitism coming from me. I have yet to refer to Jews in an insulting manner. But calling me an anti-semite is knee jerk Israel-firster response
1. "The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said on Monday Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip violates the Geneva Conventions and called for its lifting."
14/06/2010
2. Apparently, its only known to Israeli-firsters like yourself
3. THen don't accuse me of playing the anti-semite card
@Ezzedeen01 Nowhere does it state that its illegal. Economic hardship occurs when there's a blockade, especially if Gaza's agriculture sector relies on trade with Israel.
You are playing the anti-semite card since you're falsely stating that I'm calling you an anti-semite. Simple.
But hey, this is only known to Hamas-firsters like yourself =P
1. Actually, the ICRC statement was published and republished by major credible news organizations including those in Israel, and is illegal because it violates the Geneva convention
2. Mr. Karl T. Hudson-Phillips and the rest of the panel were not firsters of any kind. Unbiased, independent, impartial, and no history of involvement in this conflict
@Ezzedeen01 ICRC refers to GC in terms of economic hardship and requests the blockade be lifted. Nowhere did it state the Al Jazeera headline of the blockade's legality.
I've argued the issues in the report, and yet you choose to argue about the people involved. The end result is what's in the report. The same issues on what was provided in the final Goldstone report applies here as well. Selectivity and questionable sourcing, hence bias.
1. Actually, Al Jazeera was not the only one to run the ehadline. Again the BBC and Reuters ran with a headline stating the ICRC believed Israel was breaking the law ie. ILLEGAL
2. The people involved are what influence the report. Impartiality, independence, and credibility are attached to this report and the only people arguing otherwise are Israeli-firsters. You keep moaning about selectivity but THAT IS YOUR OPINION
@Ezzedeen01 Al Jazeera ran the headline stating that it was illegal which the ICRC never stated, hence not a legal position.
This is already done and dusted. You can keep parroting the same thing in different ways, but the result is still the same, no legal position and the ICRC/UN never stated that the blockade was illegal.
@Ezzedeen01 Breaking a legal naval blockade with force is illegal.
ICRC states that it was committing hardships to the Palestinians, ie economy and called for the blockade's lifting. Never stated it was illegal. If ICRC stated it was illegal, that would be a legal stance.
News headlines don't support your position. Simple.
@jsbeard18 Dont telling meaningless storys! Show me your evidence? Only some without-knowing source pictures and some bloody message!
But we have all seen, how you killed innocent people! We have seen, how you bombed uno-schools! And we have seen that Europe and Usa doing nothing for it!
@jsbeard18 armenians where just bastard that backstabbed us, oh by the way we didnt murder armenians we just drove them out of our land.....spill bloods of kurds? no you mean those terrorist, not all kurds are terrorist and the same as those so called kurds that you think...you are huge dumbass...and doesnt know the real reason behind this war...moron
"A report by three U.N.-appointed human rights experts Wednesday said that Israeli forces violated international law when they raided a Gaza-bound aid flotilla killing nine activists earlier this year."
Deride the UNHRC as much as you want. they conducted an independent fact-finding mission headed by three prominent international jurists and all three came to the conclusion that the IDF broke International law.
Actually, the Chair of the report was a Mr. Karl T. Hudson-Phillips, and the other two Human rights experts were Desmond de Silva, Mary Shanthi Dairiam.
Since you don't bother to research any of the shit you spew, its no surprise when i make you look like an imbecile
@Ezzedeen01 A fact-finding mission with pre-determined guilt and the regular OCD by the UNHRC regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Easy to deride since the muppet on that commission tie in this 'breaking of international law' to the baseless allegation of 'collective punishment' whilst the practice of retorsion is perfectly legal.
The naval blockade is legal and so was the boarding of the aidless Mavi marmara.
1. Pre-determined guilt- NOPE, not if you read the mandate
2. If by puppet, you mean Mr. Karl T. Hudson-Phillip who is a retired judge of the ICC, then actually, that makes you look like an ignorant puppet.
3. Not according to the Red Cross, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, the National Lawyers Guild's International Committee, and many other organizations and persons agree its illegal
@Ezzedeen01 Condemnation before 'independent' investigation is pre-determined guilt.
UN itself, not the UNHRC, never determined the naval blockade was illegal. ICRC has no legal stance on the subject (go to their website if you wish). There are many legal arguments for and against the naval blockade and its legality. The bread and butter of the illegal stance is the baseless accusation of 'collective punishment' avoiding the question of retorsion.
1. No it is not since the three member panel were INDEPENDENT and given a mandate as to whether or not the raid broke international law or not. All three panelists were highy educated, highly independent, and highly skilled in the matters of international law
2. Well, this is a report of the UNHRC so you are wrong.
"The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said on Monday Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip violates the Geneva Conventions and called for its lifting. "
@Ezzedeen01 Didn't know a 3 member panel translates to 'independent'. So only if people agree with your stance, are they highly educated, highly independent (wtf does this mean?), and are the only ones that know international law. If you disagree with this position, they are propagandist, liars, schemers, etc.
I've read the report. Brunt of it includes conflicting 'eyewitness testimony'. Go ahead and read it. Evidence was omitted if it didn't agree with the UNHRC anti-Israel position.
1. Never said it did. I said the three member panel was given the freedom to deliberate without coercion or influence.
2. People are highly skilled and highly educated based on their experiences and education.
3. Strawman
4. Evidence omitted like all the cameras, audio and video equipment of the flotilla participants that was confiscated by the IDF and then "coincedentally" erased. Of course, the IDF then released their version and audio/video
1. Again, the OPINION of you and other Israeli firsters. So unbiased and open to both sides were the three member panel, they even included the correspondence letters of quote "His excellency Mr. Aharon Leshnoi-Yaar" who also slammed the panel like a good little Israeli.
2. Nope, Israeli firsters are characterized by demagoguery, a lack of facts, a sickening victim complex when they are the criminal
The co-founder of the ISM stated, " It is virtually impossible to hide footage...our ships get confiscated and the Israelis tear them apart looking for cameras, memory chips, etc. All our equipment is confiscated and gone through and erased."
This was corrobarated by others on the flotilla including an Italian Journalist. Lets not forget that 2 IDF soldiers have been convicted for credit card fraud, using credit cards STOLEN from the flotilla activists including the Italian.
1. SO i suppose the Italian Journalist was a Hamas apologist when he corroborated the confiscating and wiping of photo and video cameras.
2. Or perhaps Mr. Karl T. Hudson-Phillips who pointed this out to the Israeli ambassador in the correspondence found in the UNHCR report on the Gaza Flotilla
3. It Proves that the IDF like all criminals who commit credit card fraud are a) Criminals b) liers c) thieves
@Ezzedeen01 Oh whinge whinge about the IDF. Those who stole the credit cards were detained. Any other fallacious arguments you would like to put forth?
UNHCR report is biased based on the evidence ignored that didn't support its predetermined guilt and its abundant use of heresay 'eyewitness testimony'. I can point this out ad nauseum.
This Italian journalist witnessed the confiscation at most, which would be logical.
1. Criminals are criminals, however much you Israeli-firster support them
2. According to Israeli firsters like yourself. However, including correspondence of the Israeli ambassador with the Chair of the report in the actual report proves you wrong
3. And when he and other flotilla participants received (some have yet to receive their stolen posessions) they corroborated Mr. Shapiro's observation
@Ezzedeen01 I don't support credit card theft. You do however support this fallacious argument that since a few soldiers were involved in the theft, that this translates to the entire IDF being this way and responsible for these actions. Which is rubbish
UNHCR report is there for all to read. The brunt of the statements are made from eye-witness testimony.
Go discuss this on a neutral forum somewhere. Hamas-firster.
1. 2 soldiers were convicted of credit card fraud among the many soldiers who confiscated credit cards and video/photo cameras (which some have yet to be returned). Not returning stolen property is called theft
2. According to you and other Israeli-firsters
3. Don't need to. The 3 person panel were neutral, impartial, and independent. Only ignorant victim-complex israelis like yourself choose not to believe so.
@Ezzedeen01 Many? A few is many? Those soldiers were detained and charged.
Evidence confiscated by those running a legal and publicly declared naval blockade (San Remo 1994) is just that, confiscation.
Ah, so now I'm playing the victim. Not too bright I see. Didn't know they have internet in Khan Younis either based on all the whinging and Pallywood productions down there. Apparently Palestinian suffer more than anybody else in the world...
Just because you repeat a lie, doesn't mean its true. The panelists were impartial, independent, and credible, but you keep eating moon cheese Israeli-firster.
Oh and one more thing, none of the panelists were Hamas-firsters, but i will let you victim-complex degenerates continue to spew your ignorance
@Ezzedeen01 Hamas firster in Khan Younis telling me how it is.
You keep yapping on about panelists. Its the reports that display bias, not the panelists. Its the members of the panelists, ie expert witnesses and their weekly agenda that further shows a lack of being driven by Human Rights.
@Ezzedeen01 ICRC has no legal stance. Never states the blockade is illegal and still uses the baseless 'collective punishment' argument avoiding the legal practice of retorsion and that the hampering of Gaza's economy is solely based on Israel refusal to allow financial gain for Hamas.
Israel has no obligation to Gaza since there's no occupation. The blockade does not take away any function of government in Gaza, hence no occupation.
@Ezzedeen01 Nope, you've stated that the ICRC said the naval blockade is illegal. It isn't. Retorsion is legal. The argument of 'collective punishment' ignores all of this and simply states that since the economy in Gaza is suffering, which it has been since 2007 with Hamas's takeover, thereby the blockade is illegal.
Airspace is not a function of government. Not being able to fish beyond 8-10km offshore, is not a function of government.
1. According to you and other Israeli-firsters it isn't. According to the ICRC, the UNHCR, the National Lawyers Guild, and many others, it is.
2. Actually, Gaza was suffering under a blockade long before Hamas took over. Their was a blockade even when FATAH was FULLY in power in Gaza and even the former FATAH finance and economics minister (in Gaza) admitted that.
3. I never said they were, but Israel's control of Gazan airspace (b'tselem) is regarded as an occupation
2. The Fatah economic minister who was in the government previous the elections says otherwise
3. Maybe and maybe not. But it is occupation contradicting your statement in which you said, "Israel has no obligation to Gaza since there's no occupation. " Control of Gazan airspace (B'tselem) is occupation
@Ezzedeen01 Nothing contradicted. Gaza has control of all its functions of government and prior to Hamas's takeover in 2007, the PA was being transferred control of its airspace/sea according to the 1994 Jericho accords. Airspace is still not a funciton of government.
ICRC has no legal position. Stating that Gaza is suffering economic stagnation does not equate to stating a blockade is illegal.
1. You said Gaza was not under occupation. B'tselem disagrees with you and other Israeli-firsters andthe reality is that both airspace and seaspace are under Israel control therefore occupation continues (according to B'tselem)
2. "The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said on Monday Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip violates the Geneva Conventions and called for its lifting." 14/06/2010 That is a legal position because the Geneva convention is a legal doc't.
@tubeyou75 lol.. pretty rich.. i imagine you've seen a number of fictitious american propaganda films and shows. 24, The Sentinel, Transformers, The Patriot.. just to pick a few grains out of the bag.
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panafilmxxx 1 year ago
HAHAA! fuck israel to the fullest!!
wiiboii16 1 year ago
@BZLentertainment u fuckers eat shit moslem pedophiles not worth the steam of my piss to good for the cunt mohammmed a shit be on to drink;;;;;;;; fuck u dont forget the armenians the fucking turking murdered and now in africa killing millions I wish Israel does kill all the fucking moslems and destroy all the fucking mosques what you fuckers able to do Jack shit.... we eat u whore for breakfast
IWANTADINNERJACKET 1 year ago
GREAT MOVIE! FUCK ISRAEL.
0xTRX007 1 year ago
Iran should drop two nuclear bombs on Tel Aviv and Haifa.It is very easy to wipe of a tiny state like Israel.
Two nuclear bombs would erase their race.Europe have kicked the jew out like a peace of shit.Now it is the turn of the Middle East to kicke the JAHUDI.God is hating the jahudi.This is why God has punished them very hard and promised to spread them all over the world.And in fact they were lost for 2000 years.
CaptainBaseball 1 year ago
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panafilmxxx 1 year ago
@OrdNaor hatred? dumbass, look what you guys do all the time, attacking palestinians kids, beating harmless boys going to their school, watching a guarddog attacking harmless womens while enjoying the view, what hatred? what holocaust! you are starting all this shits and another one, blooddiamonds in congo? rings a bell in your head? all your doing....no wonder hitler wanted get ride of you people...only misfortune to the world society
12081985 1 year ago
@OrdNaor When i used the word "holocaust"? First of all read my message! I meaned: We(Turks) help you ever time ´cuz we are loving people, who are oppresing but some people of you thinking we are murder.
At first, you must look on the mirror and then you can talking with me about murdering people!
tekcarem 1 year ago
@OrdNaor Yes we are brainless people, because we help you in the WW2. We open our door for you!
tekcarem 1 year ago
Propaganda...
PKtheFirst 1 year ago
@PKtheFirst : yeah...propaganda against a bastard state!
Khalid4Truth 1 year ago
nice turkey. murder tens of millions of greeks, armenians, kurds, etc for hundreds of years until currently .....and now support the "palestinians"
you are moral motherfuckers
jsbeard18 1 year ago
@jsbeard18 It was all in war time !!! What about the belgians killing in congo? The USA win Iraq, japan, indians, etc.. ; The french with almost whole africa?, the serbs in kosovo and bosnia??? Turks never kill hulmans if they don't attack them.
muzzymemo 1 year ago
@muzzymemo
why will you not admit that you murdered 1.5 million armenians and hundreds of thousands of pontic greeks?
the germans admitted and apologized for killing 6 million Jews and millions of gypsies, gays, Russians, etc.
why cant u do that, its been like 100 years?
jsbeard18 1 year ago
@jsbeard18 because this wasnt happened dumbass...those folks backstabbed us so we drove them away, some turkish people may have murdered them but you should expect that they also murdered turks...dont claim all the sad things and damages on the liars
12081985 1 year ago
its not war. u can't kill 1.5 million armenians and say, "yea it was war, they had shells and stray bullets fall on them."
they werent killed in the middle of battles and fighting, they were removed from their homes, and marched into the desert, shot and starved to death. because the turks thought "they were working against turkey with the russians".
there are arabs in israel...if israel is so evil, why haven't they killed the arabs in israel, for being traitors?
jsbeard18 1 year ago
@OrdNaor Did the trailer hurt???
muzzymemo 1 year ago
@muzzymemo It actually did, my abs are sore from all the laughing... pathetic
MrClebercastilho 1 year ago
Dead terrorists make me smile.
citizenintime 1 year ago
Movies are all Propaganda and unrealistic. Anybody can act like Rambo on a movie set . The reality is that Israel has over 200 nuclear weapons and some of them are on German built, super-silent submarines called "Dolphin Class" subs. So everybody can be screaming all this Rhetoric about "kicking ass" but the fact is Turkey has 0 nukes and Israel 200. You do not even have to do the math.
LoverOfTheBandBoston 1 year ago
Very good, cant wait to watch that movie. Let's hear and see other side of the story. I'm seek and tired of this official version brought by media which mostly controled by jewish community. Shame on jews for all the misery they cause to palestines and others. Very few dare to openly condemn them. Well done Turks! May God help you! Down with the sionism!
MrBozbuach 1 year ago
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MrBozbuach 1 year ago
oh to all you haters, just like how the germans today arent responsible for what happened in the past (or the americans for the treatment of slaves and native americans), then we cant expect a nation decades later to be responsible for the past either. why dont we talk about genocides happening today instead of dwelling on the long gone past?!
suze7785 1 year ago
cant wait!
suze7785 1 year ago
@123Palestinian
thank you 123Palestinian for eloquently demonstrating what Israel is defending itself against.
oliveboy26 1 year ago
Has anybody ever suggested that any of the soldiers who boarded the ship initially were carrying and using automatic weapons! I guess the priorities for the film producers was to generate hate first , add drama second and to convey the truth last
I hope Israel release a film about the Armenian Genocide,
FYI the fictional storyline is a blatant rip off of 'Munich'
oliveboy26 1 year ago
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JoelBitarProductions 1 year ago
I cant wait to see the Israeli's getting gunned down muwahahhahahaha
ANZACJugger0 1 year ago
FYI: Valley of the Wolves is an ultra-nationalist, violence-addicted franchise produced by ultra-nationalist conservatives...its content is often almost racist & full of hate speech on any non-Turkish group, their messages are against a plural Turkey as well
monad85 1 year ago
I can't wait to see the movie about Turkey's brutal occupation of Kurdistan
habby06 1 year ago
@habby06 brutal occupation? You have kurdish channels, kurdisch schools, turkeys best singers are kurdisch singers, so what the fuck are you saying
muzzymemo 1 year ago
why are people talking about armenia, when the issue here is israel and palestine. This film looks amazing
farawladee 1 year ago
I can't wait until Turkey makes a movie about the Armenian genocide...
habby06 1 year ago
@habby06 yes u prostitue we will make a movie about turkish genocide killed by armenians in turkey and azerbaijan..foolish bastard..fuck u
ultraturkishdelight 1 year ago
@ultraturkishdelight please refer me to the turkish genocide... or is that more of your turkish propaganda?
habby06 1 year ago
@habby06 armenians killed thousands of muslims and ottomans had to mov them from anatolia to syria if there was an armenain genocide todey their population wouldn't be 8 million ok???also turks always help jews plz dont forget
ultraturkishdelight 1 year ago
@ultraturkishdelight sorry i don't buy into your propaganda. the turks committed a genocide against the armenians and have yet to apologize. the world knows it and is waiting...
habby06 1 year ago 2
@habby06 Turkey already made one, excellent movie where you can see how the armenians massacred turkish civilians. I am from east Anatolia, and there are lot of mass graves done by armenians. So stop blubbering about armenian genocide, If the ottomans would have done such thing, then there would be no ermenians around today.
AgaMemnon72 1 year ago
And lets not forgot that a lack of bias also contributes to independence and fairness.
None of the three panelists were anti-Israel to be sure and none of them were pro-palestinian either.
In essence they didn't have a perverbial "dog" in this fight so were free to rule whichever way they saw fit.
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Refusal to admit conflicting evidence displays the UNHRC report's bias on the investigation. In a court of law, the refusal to admit evidence that conflicts with, for instance, the prosecution's POV, is biased and not 'independent'.
Simple.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. Again you and other Israeli-firsters opinion that the report and the panel didn't admit conflicting evidence. The fact that they included the correspondence of the Israeli ambassador IN THE ACTUAL REPORT.
2. Actually the panel is and was unbiased and independent. They never indicated that they were "steered" but that they were independent and impartial throughout the mission
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
Poor Turks. How can they even start to get a grasp of reality if this is what they are fed. No wonder they get mad if genocide against Armenians is mentioned. Or Kurds. Or the fact that they may not be able to feed the whole world. Or that Ataturk's legacy is going to be lost- the way they are going now.
Once you start pulling wool over your eyes... you eventualy have to blow your lies out of every proportion. Like nazis. Like the lie this movie is trying to promote.
jakobsemedela 1 year ago
Israel had to do just that, as shown in the movie! Learn the right way, assholes!
Ustas65 1 year ago
hahahahahaha, that guy looks like some weird mix between an arab and an albino fat kid. But I guess the Arabs need something to look up to. Most Arabs grow up in a world where they have nothing to look up to. Their dad failed to provide them with a proper house, food, and and life. Their countries failed to provide them with education or even a job. And their religion deceived them into believing things that most of the world finds comical.
That movies is a comedy right?
joabl 1 year ago
LOLLLLLLLLLL.... hilarious Bullshit
gtabroker 1 year ago
LOL. this is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while from the arab world
phillyto 1 year ago
@phillyto
Yet another obvious moron who wouldn't know an Arab if he had the Atlas of People: A First Discovery Book shoved up his ass
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Whinge whinge is all I hear.
Continue with the arguments here all you wish in the Youtube comments area since this BS won't float on any forum or public discussion.
Muppet.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
All i hear is you whining. I made you look like an ignorant imbecile because you couldn't do a speck of research and relied on rhetoric, demagoguery, and opinion.
Bitch please!
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 So no rebuttal. Ta for the confirmation.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
Here's TWO rules of thumb little one
1. Just because Israel says its legal or illegal, doesn't mean it is
2. Next time, do your research and i won't have to make you look like a clown
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 No, its the legal argument which says whether its legal or not.
No response to retorsion then.
Israel has no obligation to keep buying produce, which is the brunt of Gaza's economy, if its Hamas makes money off of taxes. Egypt can allow in more produce if its so concerned about Gazans. This answers the 'collective punishment' bit.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
DOn't need to respond, the ICRC, UNHCR, and many other organizations have said all thats needed to be said in far better words.
2. Not according to the ICRC apparently. They being a highly intelligent organization don't eat the Israeli bullshit propaganda and pseudo facts and law the rest of the Israeli-firsters do
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 In other words, not that the naval blockade is illegal. Duly noted.
ICRC, still no legal stance.
Moving on.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
Oh yes it does as long as it states Israel is violating the Geneva convention
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. What did i tell you about researching your bullshit before you spew it? 3rd time its happened and 3rd time i have smacked you in the face with your words
2. Just waiting for you and other Israel-firsters to call the ICRC an anti-semitic organization, since that is your default when you can't win an argument.
Or how about calling the National Lawyers Guild anti-semitic even though they advocated for Jews and blacks to be admitted to the Bar when the ABA would not
lol, fun
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Obviously you cannot read. The argument is not about whether it was independent, but about pre-determined guilt.
ICRC still has no legal position, but thanks for the anti-semitic whinge. Never gets old
Any more strawman arguments and detractions you want to throw into the mix?
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. Its only in your opinion and that of Israeli-firsters that that this report was pre-determined guilt.
2. The Geneva Convention is a legal document, stating that Israel has violated a legal document is a legal position. A bit confusing for rhetoric driven Israel-firsters, i know, but you'll get their
3. Just beating you to the punch, after all, apparently jews can be anti-semitic too
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Sure GC is a legal document. The interpretation of 'collective punishment' and ignoring the practice of retorsion, against Hamas in this case, is legal opinion.
Can see the knee-jerk 'israel-firsters' being in the brunt of your posts, and hey, the anti-semitism card, yet again.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. You said "ICRC has no legal stance" so again, i prove you wrong.
2. According to you and other Israeli firsters they are "ignoring the practice of retorsion"
3. No anti-semitism coming from me. I have yet to refer to Jews in an insulting manner. But calling me an anti-semite is knee jerk Israel-firster response
3.
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 ICRC has no legal stance, it never stated the blockade to be illegal. You, however, falsely did attribute this to ICRC.
Retorsion still legal and the main body of the UN knows this.
Nobody called you an anti-semite. But waaah waaah go the sheep.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. "The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said on Monday Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip violates the Geneva Conventions and called for its lifting."
14/06/2010
2. Apparently, its only known to Israeli-firsters like yourself
3. THen don't accuse me of playing the anti-semite card
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Nowhere does it state that its illegal. Economic hardship occurs when there's a blockade, especially if Gaza's agriculture sector relies on trade with Israel.
You are playing the anti-semite card since you're falsely stating that I'm calling you an anti-semite. Simple.
But hey, this is only known to Hamas-firsters like yourself =P
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. Actually, the ICRC statement was published and republished by major credible news organizations including those in Israel, and is illegal because it violates the Geneva convention
2. Mr. Karl T. Hudson-Phillips and the rest of the panel were not firsters of any kind. Unbiased, independent, impartial, and no history of involvement in this conflict
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 ICRC refers to GC in terms of economic hardship and requests the blockade be lifted. Nowhere did it state the Al Jazeera headline of the blockade's legality.
I've argued the issues in the report, and yet you choose to argue about the people involved. The end result is what's in the report. The same issues on what was provided in the final Goldstone report applies here as well. Selectivity and questionable sourcing, hence bias.
You can keep arguing people involved though.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. Actually, Al Jazeera was not the only one to run the ehadline. Again the BBC and Reuters ran with a headline stating the ICRC believed Israel was breaking the law ie. ILLEGAL
2. The people involved are what influence the report. Impartiality, independence, and credibility are attached to this report and the only people arguing otherwise are Israeli-firsters. You keep moaning about selectivity but THAT IS YOUR OPINION
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Al Jazeera ran the headline stating that it was illegal which the ICRC never stated, hence not a legal position.
This is already done and dusted. You can keep parroting the same thing in different ways, but the result is still the same, no legal position and the ICRC/UN never stated that the blockade was illegal.
Nothing more to add.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
Far be it from me to stop you from dumbing down yourself, but just this once.
Breaking the law = ILLEGAL
OBEYING the law = legal
The ICRC stated Israel was breaking the law, the geneva convention to be specific, which is a legal document, therefore the ICRC has A LEGAL STANCE.
I have stated and restated the headlines all of which claim the ICRC states the blockade is illigal.
Yep, nothing more to add. My quote simple needs to be googled to prove my correctness
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Breaking a legal naval blockade with force is illegal.
ICRC states that it was committing hardships to the Palestinians, ie economy and called for the blockade's lifting. Never stated it was illegal. If ICRC stated it was illegal, that would be a legal stance.
News headlines don't support your position. Simple.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@phillyto Arab world??? Turks aren't arabs retard...
muzzymemo 1 year ago
@muzzymemo you're absolutely right. I meant Muslim/ Arab world. This is something typical that would come out of Iran as well. Not Arab, but Muslim
phillyto 1 year ago
@phillyto is it muslim or arab????? Make your discission TURKEY is a muslim country and has no arabian influence. Don't confuse turks with arabs!!
muzzymemo 1 year ago
HAHAHA piece of shit turkish army can't even put a hit squad together to take out Kurdish rebels.......
turks are so fucking retarded that to chase after 5 Kurdish PKK, they bomb and murder 20 Kurdish villages and they call Israel murderous.
FUCK turkey. FREE KURDISTAN!
jsbeard18 1 year ago
@jsbeard18 You know why?? Turkish army is using the PKK to test there weapons, etc.. fool.
muzzymemo 1 year ago
@muzzymemo
we use the PKK to test our weapons on Turkey too. Just like we support Kurds who do anti-Iran activities.
jsbeard18 1 year ago
@jsbeard18 You don't use your weapon ou use your women. Cowards
muzzymemo 1 year ago
@muzzymemo
u turks kill kurdish boys and girls and women in the villages. u erase entire kurdish villages, just like u killed the armenians.
jsbeard18 1 year ago
@jsbeard18 Dont telling meaningless storys! Show me your evidence? Only some without-knowing source pictures and some bloody message!
But we have all seen, how you killed innocent people! We have seen, how you bombed uno-schools! And we have seen that Europe and Usa doing nothing for it!
tekcarem 1 year ago
@tekcarem
we have evidence u murdered 1.5 million armenians and u still spill the blood of kurds.
jsbeard18 1 year ago
@jsbeard18 Yes! your evidence is only a story, which is written by authors who thinking like you
tekcarem 1 year ago
@tekcarem
we see everyday how turks muder kurds......its on television.
jsbeard18 1 year ago
@jsbeard18 haha really funny! you talking sh*t! You confuse Turkey with Israel!
Kurds are my brother. I can discuss allthing with them. But you must be silent. Everyday the land of palestine will smaller.
tekcarem 1 year ago
@jsbeard18 murder? proof...dumbass
12081985 1 year ago
@jsbeard18 armenians where just bastard that backstabbed us, oh by the way we didnt murder armenians we just drove them out of our land.....spill bloods of kurds? no you mean those terrorist, not all kurds are terrorist and the same as those so called kurds that you think...you are huge dumbass...and doesnt know the real reason behind this war...moron
12081985 1 year ago
Like watching an al-manar/pallywood production but with more financial backing and exaggerated and explosive action scenes.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
Versus the demagoguery and falsities so common in Israeli government and media propaganda.
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 I know. Its difficult dealing with actual video evidence regarding this flotilla incident. Its already passe and nobody gives a crap.
Nice try at turning the tables though...
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
UN experts: Israel flotilla raid broke int'l law
"A report by three U.N.-appointed human rights experts Wednesday said that Israeli forces violated international law when they raided a Gaza-bound aid flotilla killing nine activists earlier this year."
Cat got your tongue? lol
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 UNHRC? The one that Iran just got voted in to head committee on Women's rights?
Pure comedy that one still uses 'reports' from this loony bin, with Falk, d’Escoto, and Clark as their 'experts'?
Try again.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
Deride the UNHRC as much as you want. they conducted an independent fact-finding mission headed by three prominent international jurists and all three came to the conclusion that the IDF broke International law.
Actually, the Chair of the report was a Mr. Karl T. Hudson-Phillips, and the other two Human rights experts were Desmond de Silva, Mary Shanthi Dairiam.
Since you don't bother to research any of the shit you spew, its no surprise when i make you look like an imbecile
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 A fact-finding mission with pre-determined guilt and the regular OCD by the UNHRC regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Easy to deride since the muppet on that commission tie in this 'breaking of international law' to the baseless allegation of 'collective punishment' whilst the practice of retorsion is perfectly legal.
The naval blockade is legal and so was the boarding of the aidless Mavi marmara.
Try again.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. Pre-determined guilt- NOPE, not if you read the mandate
2. If by puppet, you mean Mr. Karl T. Hudson-Phillip who is a retired judge of the ICC, then actually, that makes you look like an ignorant puppet.
3. Not according to the Red Cross, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, the National Lawyers Guild's International Committee, and many other organizations and persons agree its illegal
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Condemnation before 'independent' investigation is pre-determined guilt.
UN itself, not the UNHRC, never determined the naval blockade was illegal. ICRC has no legal stance on the subject (go to their website if you wish). There are many legal arguments for and against the naval blockade and its legality. The bread and butter of the illegal stance is the baseless accusation of 'collective punishment' avoiding the question of retorsion.
Try again.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. No it is not since the three member panel were INDEPENDENT and given a mandate as to whether or not the raid broke international law or not. All three panelists were highy educated, highly independent, and highly skilled in the matters of international law
2. Well, this is a report of the UNHRC so you are wrong.
"The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said on Monday Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip violates the Geneva Conventions and called for its lifting. "
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Didn't know a 3 member panel translates to 'independent'. So only if people agree with your stance, are they highly educated, highly independent (wtf does this mean?), and are the only ones that know international law. If you disagree with this position, they are propagandist, liars, schemers, etc.
I've read the report. Brunt of it includes conflicting 'eyewitness testimony'. Go ahead and read it. Evidence was omitted if it didn't agree with the UNHRC anti-Israel position.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. Never said it did. I said the three member panel was given the freedom to deliberate without coercion or influence.
2. People are highly skilled and highly educated based on their experiences and education.
3. Strawman
4. Evidence omitted like all the cameras, audio and video equipment of the flotilla participants that was confiscated by the IDF and then "coincedentally" erased. Of course, the IDF then released their version and audio/video
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 The panel predominantly relied on testimony, often conflicting, from one side, and disregarded conflicting evidence and testimony.
What you've shown is that whoever disagrees is this 'israel-firster', a propagandist and so on.
Never did see anything in the report about video evidence being erased. I have the pdf and have read it, have you?
There hasn't been any conflicting evidence provided, outside of hearsay, that goes agaisnt the IDF's version of events.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. Again, the OPINION of you and other Israeli firsters. So unbiased and open to both sides were the three member panel, they even included the correspondence letters of quote "His excellency Mr. Aharon Leshnoi-Yaar" who also slammed the panel like a good little Israeli.
2. Nope, Israeli firsters are characterized by demagoguery, a lack of facts, a sickening victim complex when they are the criminal
3. check the correspondence,
4. Possibly because the IDF took cameras
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
The co-founder of the ISM stated, " It is virtually impossible to hide footage...our ships get confiscated and the Israelis tear them apart looking for cameras, memory chips, etc. All our equipment is confiscated and gone through and erased."
This was corrobarated by others on the flotilla including an Italian Journalist. Lets not forget that 2 IDF soldiers have been convicted for credit card fraud, using credit cards STOLEN from the flotilla activists including the Italian.
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Heresay by fanatical Hamas apologists ISM. Perhaps any other 'peace groups' you want to quote?
So what of the couple stolen credit cards from the thousands confiscated? Doesn't prove anything.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
1. SO i suppose the Italian Journalist was a Hamas apologist when he corroborated the confiscating and wiping of photo and video cameras.
2. Or perhaps Mr. Karl T. Hudson-Phillips who pointed this out to the Israeli ambassador in the correspondence found in the UNHCR report on the Gaza Flotilla
3. It Proves that the IDF like all criminals who commit credit card fraud are a) Criminals b) liers c) thieves
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Oh whinge whinge about the IDF. Those who stole the credit cards were detained. Any other fallacious arguments you would like to put forth?
UNHCR report is biased based on the evidence ignored that didn't support its predetermined guilt and its abundant use of heresay 'eyewitness testimony'. I can point this out ad nauseum.
This Italian journalist witnessed the confiscation at most, which would be logical.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. Criminals are criminals, however much you Israeli-firster support them
2. According to Israeli firsters like yourself. However, including correspondence of the Israeli ambassador with the Chair of the report in the actual report proves you wrong
3. And when he and other flotilla participants received (some have yet to receive their stolen posessions) they corroborated Mr. Shapiro's observation
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 I don't support credit card theft. You do however support this fallacious argument that since a few soldiers were involved in the theft, that this translates to the entire IDF being this way and responsible for these actions. Which is rubbish
UNHCR report is there for all to read. The brunt of the statements are made from eye-witness testimony.
Go discuss this on a neutral forum somewhere. Hamas-firster.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. 2 soldiers were convicted of credit card fraud among the many soldiers who confiscated credit cards and video/photo cameras (which some have yet to be returned). Not returning stolen property is called theft
2. According to you and other Israeli-firsters
3. Don't need to. The 3 person panel were neutral, impartial, and independent. Only ignorant victim-complex israelis like yourself choose not to believe so.
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Many? A few is many? Those soldiers were detained and charged.
Evidence confiscated by those running a legal and publicly declared naval blockade (San Remo 1994) is just that, confiscation.
Ah, so now I'm playing the victim. Not too bright I see. Didn't know they have internet in Khan Younis either based on all the whinging and Pallywood productions down there. Apparently Palestinian suffer more than anybody else in the world...
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. Theft according to the UNHCR report, however much you and others whine and moan about selectivity and such
2. Justifying and supporting a criminal act and then Israelis whining that they are the victims, not the flotilla participants is a victim-complex
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 UNHCR report uses conflicting eye witness testimony. All of which is heresay. Learn the concept.
Hamas-firster.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
Just because you repeat a lie, doesn't mean its true. The panelists were impartial, independent, and credible, but you keep eating moon cheese Israeli-firster.
Oh and one more thing, none of the panelists were Hamas-firsters, but i will let you victim-complex degenerates continue to spew your ignorance
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Hamas firster in Khan Younis telling me how it is.
You keep yapping on about panelists. Its the reports that display bias, not the panelists. Its the members of the panelists, ie expert witnesses and their weekly agenda that further shows a lack of being driven by Human Rights.
Back to Pallywood you go buddy...
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 ICRC has no legal stance. Never states the blockade is illegal and still uses the baseless 'collective punishment' argument avoiding the legal practice of retorsion and that the hampering of Gaza's economy is solely based on Israel refusal to allow financial gain for Hamas.
Israel has no obligation to Gaza since there's no occupation. The blockade does not take away any function of government in Gaza, hence no occupation.
Really simple to rebut.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. Actually, the Geneva convention is a legal document, and since the ICRC says Israel is violating this LEGAL document, thats a legal stance
2. Their still is an occupation according to B'tselem: Israel still controls the airspace and waterspace of the Gaza strip.
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Nope, you've stated that the ICRC said the naval blockade is illegal. It isn't. Retorsion is legal. The argument of 'collective punishment' ignores all of this and simply states that since the economy in Gaza is suffering, which it has been since 2007 with Hamas's takeover, thereby the blockade is illegal.
Airspace is not a function of government. Not being able to fish beyond 8-10km offshore, is not a function of government.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. According to you and other Israeli-firsters it isn't. According to the ICRC, the UNHCR, the National Lawyers Guild, and many others, it is.
2. Actually, Gaza was suffering under a blockade long before Hamas took over. Their was a blockade even when FATAH was FULLY in power in Gaza and even the former FATAH finance and economics minister (in Gaza) admitted that.
3. I never said they were, but Israel's control of Gazan airspace (b'tselem) is regarded as an occupation
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Blockade still isn't illegal.
Gaza wasn't under blockade until Hamas took over in 2007.
Gazan airspace is still not a function of government.
Ciao.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. According to the ICRC it is
2. The Fatah economic minister who was in the government previous the elections says otherwise
3. Maybe and maybe not. But it is occupation contradicting your statement in which you said, "Israel has no obligation to Gaza since there's no occupation. " Control of Gazan airspace (B'tselem) is occupation
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 Nothing contradicted. Gaza has control of all its functions of government and prior to Hamas's takeover in 2007, the PA was being transferred control of its airspace/sea according to the 1994 Jericho accords. Airspace is still not a funciton of government.
ICRC has no legal position. Stating that Gaza is suffering economic stagnation does not equate to stating a blockade is illegal.
bigjelmapro 1 year ago
@bigjelmapro
1. You said Gaza was not under occupation. B'tselem disagrees with you and other Israeli-firsters andthe reality is that both airspace and seaspace are under Israel control therefore occupation continues (according to B'tselem)
2. "The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said on Monday Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip violates the Geneva Conventions and called for its lifting." 14/06/2010 That is a legal position because the Geneva convention is a legal doc't.
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
2 hours of fictitious propaganda? No thank you.
tubeyou75 1 year ago
@tubeyou75
As fictitious propaganda as Abu Ghraib and Lynndie England
Americunt
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@Ezzedeen01 umad?
b1bIs1337 1 year ago
@b1bIs1337
Am i mad? No, just pointing out the hypocrites that Americunts are. Why do you ask?
Ezzedeen01 1 year ago
@tubeyou75 lol.. pretty rich.. i imagine you've seen a number of fictitious american propaganda films and shows. 24, The Sentinel, Transformers, The Patriot.. just to pick a few grains out of the bag.
JIMMYISFAT666 1 year ago
ahahaha only in the movies...
MrClebercastilho 1 year ago
@MrClebercastilho did the trailer hurt ??
muzzymemo 1 year ago