It's too bad that the world isn't filled with logical people like these two. I honestly was reminded of the conversations that I have with my own friends. We bring concerns to each other, and proceed to humbly enlighten the other. And I do feel bad for Professor Dawkins since he has to deal with morons most of the time.
I think this might be the end state of religion in the future, i think most religious people are afraid of losing the community and the tradition rather than the actual belief. This could be like methadon for a crack addict :)
I find marking time and marking space meaningful and adds value to life. I was brought up Jewish, and I want to retain a Jewish identity, its philosophy, its community, without subscribing to rituals I don't understand. I often see objections to circumcision; if you don't find meaning or value in that, don't do it.
I have probably been harsh in my previous comments - but since the Palestinians have been side stepped in the addressed issues? (feel free to spew propaganda)
@TheMassiveToe Most of your points are fair (eg not all Jews support what Israel has done to the Palestinians). However it seems to me that there are traditions/memes in Jewish culture which strengthen/reinforce existing human tendencies toward us and them tribalism. These type of memes (which are of course present in many other cultures) have an impact in the wider world. I think such matters deserve mention and consideration.
@STRUTTER777U Tribalism!? Sooner or later we should question it, surely - if we are to progress beyond our current sad condition. It is an attractive stratergy. It has a price. It's attractions and prices have been played out for millions of years. Let's talk about it.
@Prunesqualer agreed, but it should be possible to have pride in your tribe but also respect for other tribes. i think the big problem and probably the definition of tribalism is the idea of us and them, and the implication that us (or we) are better than those people (them). Perhaps tribes will become more and more inclusive to the point that it doesn't exist anymore on this planet... perhaps proof of alien life will fuel this change...
The rabbi seems a bit strange to me. Many of the jewesh traditions were founded on self deception and flat out lies about the nature of reality. We all evolved in Africa, so think about your heritage in that sense.
Great interview and one to get you thinking. Interesting to hear her comparing Christmas (built on falsehoods) to her Jewish traditions (also built on falsehoods). It just doesn’t quite make sense to me. As an Atheist I just about tolerate Christmas once a year but certainly wouldn’t put up with performing a multitude of pointless religious traditions all year round. Slightly hypercritical of me perhaps?
People listen to Professor Richard Dawkins because he presents EVIDENCE, which can be tested. Even if he's making money, so what. Those with whom he debates are religious charlatans and frauds. Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris and Dennett have had no equals in debate with any person of faith. It's because they can underpin their arguments with reason and evidence, and they're not assholes!
The woman's an idiot. Hitchens would have had her for breakfast. It's typical of those who observe faith, their arguments are skewed, I'll thought out, and half baked. Dawkins should have told her to shut the fuck up. Jews as a "people" are responsible for inflicting centuries of pain and misery by mutilating the genitals of children. Disgusting and shameful.
People that listen to Dawkins are as blind as people that listen to Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity. Its about saying whatever people want to hear and they make a lot of money doing so. Don’t you think Dawkins is getting over the top?
Is it just me, or others can see it as well, that Dawkins is getting more and more uncomfortable during this Interview. At the end he looks very nervous and confused. Something is very wrong...
She's wrong when she says Judaism is not a "creed" - an incompetent woman. God ultimately wants all to announce the creed of God in Judaism, and the "Jewish people" is not an exclusivity game but an idiomatic message to propagate the message of the Lord for all peoples. The Jewish people is a figure of speech, not a reality, so this is used to invite all of humanity to come under Judaism since humanity is God's creation. This woman is uneducated.
@BlueDemeter LOLL thats hella funny. I think she is trying to hypnotize him, so she can put him to sleep, and bake him in the oven. She looks hungry but that's not unusual..
So is Judaism turning into a culture and philoshophy and debying its theological teaching and background? or she her opinions doesn't reflect other rabbi's ideas?
Just because you think you have vision does not mean you put forth the justification of speaking about it! Free atheism! Going against it just condemns religosity to its beginning! Define atheism as term for term; a spoken concept is realized when it has the power to relize it; this is not the definition to religion!
Decisive justification should be defined! Some should not ramble on about concepts they share in certain moteifs that do not differ with each others lives. Reasoning is not blind, it does have a starting point; just define the starting point, this is what religion has done over the years, most of it is not about belief - philosophically speaking! It runs on like most ramblings and that is where the trouble starts! Atheism from the beginning has been definined; what happens if it hasn't?Realized
This is our rabbi! She officiated at our wedding, our sons funeral and our other sons naming! This is so cool! I shared it with my FB and I think there were a few people who were shocked to find out that they were at an atheist ceremony! They did not notice the lack of god, and everyone thought the ceremonies were beautiful!
@forseyworsey Maybe they didn't notice because they're no mind pricks that have been programmed not to think for themselves, but to let others do their thinking for them. Maybe that's why they didn't notice. You could have stood up there and babbled on about bullshit for four hours and they wouldn't have noticed. But if you got up and questioned any of them about the damages inflicted by their common beliefs, you will find out just how patient these people really are.
Hmm, I think you guys are a bit too hard on her. She doesn't seem to be much of a skeptic, and perhaps has some lingering dogmatism about her... But she certainly isn't an awful person, and she does seem to have an open mind. At least in her case, unlike most people, any faith that she might be clinging onto is in no position to harm anyone but herself, it would seem. But come on, we've seen all of 20 minutes of this woman, don't pick HER of all people to troll.
I don't understand all the hatred towards this lady. She promoting a warm community without a god. I don't see anything wrong with that. Despite its irrationalities, the communities religions promote are actually very healthy. It has been shown in studies that the longest living people tend to belong to a religious group. They live longer not because people pray for them but because they keep themselves engaged in warm community all the way to their oldest of ages.
@DExxxxxTR So, then, religions have nothing to do with living longer.
People with some genes, given good/safe circumstances, live 30-60 years longer than the average. And the probability of their offspring also living longer is higher.
In short, living very long has nothing to do with superstitions. It's mostly a combination of: ---- luck (where you're born, etc.), genes (born with less sickly genes, etc.), taking care of the self (living healthily, mentally & bodily, etc)...
@HenryDavidT Yes, I do agree with you. Like you pointed out, there are many reasons that people live longer than others. One of those reasons that you mentioned is mental health. My point is that religious COMMUNITIES are mentally healthy, not the superstitious part of religions. I did not say that if you belong to a religious group you are guaranteed to live longer. She is not promoting a superstitious church that worships a god. However, she is following cultural rituals.
@HenryDavidT There is a video of Dan Dennett on this channel where he actually discusses this topic. I think the name of the video is 'Good Reason for believing in God'. He discusses all the good reasons for religion. If you know Dennett, then you know he is a hard-core Atheist so he is not in any way suggesting you take up a religion. He discusses what good things Atheist can take from religion. One of those is community.
@HenryDavidT I think I suggested the wrong Dan Dennett video. It might be 'Evolution of Religion'. They are all very long so I just skipped through them. I will go back later this evening and watch them again and let you know the right one. Regardless of which video he discusses it, Dan is always fun to listen to.
@HenryDavidT Okay, I found the video. It is not on this channel but search youtube for 'Daniel C. Dennett on What Should Replace Religions'. It is a very good lecture.
@klhcc Didn't you hear the bit about the criterion she uses for whether to observe a tradition or practice? She specifically said that she does not hold onto restrictive practices that undermine human dignity. Religion restricts and corruptions life WHEN it's attached to religious dogma. I'm with Dawkins in that I don't feel attached to traditions or cultural practices, but if other people do I think that's just dandy.
@klhcc Actually, she does NOT think Jews are the chosen people. She's a Humanistic Rabbi, and Humanistic Judaism, which is non-theistic, explicitly repudiates the position that Jews are chosen people.
@klhcc You are wrong by saying she thinks she is one of the 'chosen people', she merely said that being Jewish is a religion and/or also a nationality.
@Meskiagkasher JUdaism is a religion, Israeli is a nationality, but you can be Jewish and be English or American or Italian or any number of different nationalities. To be a muslim is strictly belonging to the Islamic faith. To be a Christian is to belong to the Christian faith.
@klhcc she never said that she thinks that jews are the chosen people, she simply upholds judaistic tradition in her household and community, which is a quite noble thing to do. And if she chooses to not use electricity during sabbath, so what? It is her choice. Fact of the matter remains that she does not impose the torah and its falsehood upon her kids, or others. I see absolutely nothing wrong with her way of life/thinking, and I think your just trying to find a reason to criticize her
@killerinstinct1337 She selectively upholds judaic traditions. The trends show that her children, will observe even fewer of those traditions - until....
@killerinstinct1337 "And if she chooses to not use electricity during sabbath, so what? It is her choice." But it is rather odd isn't it? It's interesting to contemplate WHY people feel better if they follow bizarre archaic traditions/superstitions - no electricity one day a week, don't eat animals with cloven feet, stand on one leg on Tuesdays wearing a pink hat (I made that last one up but it's really no less pointless!)
@ryko26 To my understanding of this video, I suppose it's because she values the social gatherings or celebrations that the jewish lifestyle provides.
@klhcc well i'm an atheist jew & i don't see myself as "chosen". in fact, every jew i know (which is Many) don't see themselves as "chosen". u completely misunderstood her views. she lives in a culture, a way of life, while thinking about each aspect of it whether its dignified, meaningful etc. that's a very open way of thinking, more so than ur way of thinking which is "she is a jew, mad bitch". she said herself, "3 jews, 5 opinions", us jews are Open-Minded, strongly dialectical in culture.
what a backward talking, passively positioned, blatantly fabricated opinion she has constructed. she is either not a true practicing member of the Jewish faith or the most missguided jew at temple. how do people like this manage to accomplish anything?
hahahahah JEW IS AN ETHNICITY?!! WHAT A LOAD OF FUCKING SHIT!!! this bitch is retarded... the only REAL ETHNIC jews are against israel. dont believe me? look it up. the ONLY REAL ETHNIC SEMITIC JEWS, are the only ones who know the truth and they dislike dumb bitch white whores like her
JESUS CHRIST IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY HIM. JOHN 14:6. See my videos page for PROOF Jesus is real. Of course you atheist always find an excuse not to believe though sigh
@roac7777 partially true - there was no evidence that Jesus ever was, let alone what his sexual orientation or perversions were. I just embellished the story a bit just as the Gospel writers did.....I am sure that the Holy Spirit is probably talking through me.
she has shown that religion is about community as much as it is about theology, it's a way of supporting the old and sick people in a society, a place to celebrate marriages, births and so on. Dawkins lives in a society that does all the same things, but if you look at what happens in the secular society, it often doesn't do them as well. The Rabbi is a leader of a community, she does what she is meant to do.
there is no jewish "people" (least of all a chosen one)
jewish holidays, clothing rules, dietary laws, etc are derived from judaism, every aspect that would make up a "culture" is entirely religious among jews. if you remove that you have a non-religious jew. but where would be the difference to a non-religious catholic or protestant or muslim? there is none. what is left is just a person with no particular affiliation.
@nubl37 LOL you super fucking failed. How did she own him about christmas? christmas is a fiscal holiday you dumb fuck. and our NATIONS and STATES propagate it by making it a stat holiday. I know millions of atheists who still adhere to the demands of capitalism by buying their loved ones GIFTS on christmas. Jesus wasn't even born on that day, and quite probably jesus wasn't born at all. they are 2 separate things. educate yourself retard. christmas is ANCIENT SIBERIAN SHAMANISTIC RITUAL
watched, then read comments. what in the world? from what I could gather, it sounds like she's a naturalist who adheres to the culture but not the religion. It's just that her culture is intertwined with religion. she says some stupid things(lawl, dawkins have religion), but she says a lot of stuff that isn't stupid.
@Meskiagkasher how christians follow a creed, how jews are a people (which relates to her main point). Basically, what she's saying is she's trying to separate her culture from the religion she doesn't believe in. Trying to take what's culturally important to her away from something that most consider strictly religious.
To me, all life evolved from the planet we now find ourselves living on. This is self evident. We mirror the earth. Look at the circulatory system of the earth and then, observe your systems of rivers and creeks inside you(veins, arteries, etc.) furthermore study a leaf for example or any other living thing. Our chemical make up is similar to our planet. Our tears are the same ph as salt water. We are of the earth and we act as though we are silly monkeys wearing different hats (religions for
When you learn to love it doesn't make any difference whether being jewish is good or bad, right or wrong, when you truly love, then everybody is worthy regardless of how they define themselves. I am a Jewess and a Woman and a Human Being in no particular order. There is no one way, if science becomes the one and only way, then that will just be another form social control.
So being Jewish is an ethnicity. Alright that's fine. It's a Semitic (aka middle eastern) ethnicity..... Am I the only one who's noticed that this woman doesn't appear to be of middle eastern decent? I dunno. Seems kinda like she wants to be able to claim some sort of special status beyond her culture and beliefs. Falsely giving herself extra credibility. Makes her seem like a stuck up bitch from where I'm sitting. /shrug
I have many times thought "not having a belief, is still just another belief". That train of thought really allows people to respect other people culturally
@Meskiagkasher Lool, I didnt mean it like that. I just found it useful when your finding a tremendous amount of difficulty communicating with someone with such a whacked ideology such as religion.
@rednecktrucker1969 Listening to her, I get the impression that all she wants to keep is the traditions of the Jewish faith but literally discard the faith. It appears that to keep a culture while discarding the irrational parts of the culture seems rationally honest. It would be like Christians meeting at a church while discarding the superstition of their god and keeping the community fellowship and morals in a new secular rational setting. Perhaps it can work. Don't know.
I am an atheist. I confront religious ideas, I crush religious arguments and stupidity and I enjoy doing it. For the people who say she is crazy or stupid must have not heard the same talk I have. She makes much more sense then your complaints about her. All she is saying is they still do the customs IF they are acceptable because they have a connection with it that’s it. There was no talk about superstition or dogma and she clearly wasn't moving the goal post. You guys are the ass hats.
meskiakasher, I am not convinced youtube is any less "fake" than the Jewish religion or joining a golf club or watching Big Brother on TV. The point about this programme is that it shows two people having a grown up discussion, where adults respect each other's differences.
meskiagkasher, she is speaking from a non intellectual point of view about the human need for community and culture as well as being respectful towards the Christian and the atheist, what more could you want than that?
well done Tamara, you show very clearly the need for culture, community, shared interests as shared by Dawkins - brilliant job done, you can speak to another human being with dignity, self control and intelligence, look how some people only insult because they don't know how else to communicate, how sad is that.
@Xytos you're just making a fool of yourself. Did you even listen to the talk or you just browse videos judging people? They are two people having a respectful conversation. And here you come refering to her look as if it had any relevance to the issues and making Dawkins into an unreachable king. Dawkins chose to interview her.
She says that contrary to Christians, "Jews are a people". This is BS!!! To understand that one just have to read the book "The Invention of the Jewish People", by Shlomo Sand, Professor of History at Tel Aviv University.
@dohngl - "Did she really ask Dawkins if he practiced any religion?" "Practice" does not equate to "believe". There are a number of atheists (of course, small in percentages) who *practice* the religion with their families and communities, yet are still staunch NON-believers. She asked a perfectly valid question. "Practice" in this context is purely related to family/community traditions. As she continued, she further asked specifically about family and community. Weren't you listening?
@BigMTBrain I do accept your point on the semantics of religious practice but come on! Dawkins is the best known atheist on the planet. Two minutes of research on the man she was talking to would have told her this was a silly question.
@dohngl -This is all certainly a minor issue, but when the question hadn't crossed your mind before, what's better than asking the source directly? We all know a great deal about Dawkins' professional life and philosophies, but only an extreme few of us would know anything about his family life and practices. As humans, we quite often presume based on other knowns. However, when trying to reach the heart of a matter for concrete answers and to inform our logic, we must ask explicitly.
I think she is nuts, moving the goal posts, confusing issues, and not listening to Dawkins at all. I like how Dawkins just let the issues slide and let her have her say rather than get that gooey mess of sentimental rationalizations all over him. The one thing she does remind me of, however, is the history of Judaism redefining its god over and over again per its situation and needs of the community.
Is one's sense of personal identity assigned from one's past, or are we self-determining? Is it defined historically- one's heritage? Or is it defined under the environmental and social conditions one grows up around? Is divisive thinking the result of globalization- a response to a world because more and more interconnected and interdependent?
@rpm297 personal identity are neuron interactions in the brain that get set, defined, grow and die over the course of an individuals life. We are as a matter of physical reality - apes. Beyond that any effort to laminate historical cultural BELIEFS onto personal identity is just that. It is no different than insisting on having to wear a special brand of shirt or shoes. The fact that people will kill to have those shoes (I literally mean shoes) or belong to a religious group IS the evidence.
Jewish nationality.. lol.. What a joke. There a more black jews than the supposed tribe of israel. I think their orthodox teachings are wider spread then some fucked up sect of kabala.
@odykay yes - but I wasnt referring to her being blindly deluded- I was referring to her arrogance- relgion or no- her arrogance is repugnant- its never a good or attractrive quality
This woman is such a cretin, I can see how uncomfortable Dawkins looks sitting there, I bet he wonders what he is doing talking to this misguided fool.
Her question "Do you practise any religion?" implies that she has no knowledge or interest in who he is or what he is about, or that she is stupid.
lewisner 3 weeks ago
It's too bad that the world isn't filled with logical people like these two. I honestly was reminded of the conversations that I have with my own friends. We bring concerns to each other, and proceed to humbly enlighten the other. And I do feel bad for Professor Dawkins since he has to deal with morons most of the time.
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huwrj 3 weeks ago
I think this might be the end state of religion in the future, i think most religious people are afraid of losing the community and the tradition rather than the actual belief. This could be like methadon for a crack addict :)
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huwrj 3 weeks ago
I find marking time and marking space meaningful and adds value to life. I was brought up Jewish, and I want to retain a Jewish identity, its philosophy, its community, without subscribing to rituals I don't understand. I often see objections to circumcision; if you don't find meaning or value in that, don't do it.
marasu66 4 weeks ago
I have probably been harsh in my previous comments - but since the Palestinians have been side stepped in the addressed issues? (feel free to spew propaganda)
Prunesqualer 4 weeks ago
@Prunesqualer The Palestinians have nothing to do with these matters. There is Judaism and there is Israel, and these are not the same.
Jews existed even when there was no Jewish state, so we can be Jewish without reffering to Israel or the Palesitnian conflict.
Jews don't define themselves by being "Anti-Palestinians" (We are not anti-Palestinians, in fact), so we don't have to mention them all the time.
There is more to Judaism than just a political conflict occuring in a specific location.
TheMassiveToe 3 weeks ago
@TheMassiveToe Most of your points are fair (eg not all Jews support what Israel has done to the Palestinians). However it seems to me that there are traditions/memes in Jewish culture which strengthen/reinforce existing human tendencies toward us and them tribalism. These type of memes (which are of course present in many other cultures) have an impact in the wider world. I think such matters deserve mention and consideration.
Prunesqualer 3 weeks ago
@Prunesqualer Not all Jews support what the Arab Palestinians have done to the Jews.
STRUTTER777U 3 weeks ago
@STRUTTER777U Tribalism!? Sooner or later we should question it, surely - if we are to progress beyond our current sad condition. It is an attractive stratergy. It has a price. It's attractions and prices have been played out for millions of years. Let's talk about it.
Prunesqualer 2 weeks ago
@Prunesqualer agreed, but it should be possible to have pride in your tribe but also respect for other tribes. i think the big problem and probably the definition of tribalism is the idea of us and them, and the implication that us (or we) are better than those people (them). Perhaps tribes will become more and more inclusive to the point that it doesn't exist anymore on this planet... perhaps proof of alien life will fuel this change...
DjDedan 2 weeks ago
I have some idea of what humanism represents (and atheism). I am less sure about this Jewishism. I suspect it amounts to tribalism.
Prunesqualer 4 weeks ago
OOOOOH ain’t it good to belong (‘cept if you don’t)
Prunesqualer 4 weeks ago
7:19 Woah this part gets awkward.
"I hope you'll consider me a friend"
"Very much so." *OVER SMILE*
TweekDash 1 month ago
is that the magic of reality on the table?
shutmoonshyflower 1 month ago
This woman is insane. There is NO such thing as a female "rabbi" wtf?
nopecharliesnoangel 1 month ago
That's not Kosher dude...
dave474c 1 month ago
3.24 "But I'm still a scientist."
Pause.
"Yes......" He doesn't seen all that convinced.
Smithpolly 1 month ago 9
she is like the nodding dog, churchill Oh no no no no no no no no
RoyalArtillery 1 month ago
she sounds a bit loopy lol
GeorgeTheJoker780 1 month ago
If religion would evolve Tamara Kolton would be a very good example for an intermediate form, sadly I think it doesn't or in a wrong direction :)
Chris197980CH 1 month ago
Everyone is a "people" with a land. The land is called Earth.
MrJuno6 1 month ago
The rabbi seems a bit strange to me. Many of the jewesh traditions were founded on self deception and flat out lies about the nature of reality. We all evolved in Africa, so think about your heritage in that sense.
northoforacle 1 month ago
How nice!
kasuskasus 1 month ago
first time i see Prof. Dawkins stutter for a minute...
asisalhov 1 month ago
@CityOfTheGo411 nah, she just has a metal dildo
Meskiagkasher 1 month ago
Bobble head!
waitwhatwasthat 1 month ago
She sounds like she's full of SHIT.
23skeedoo 1 month ago
God she has that sickly sweet religious mannerism about her, its all a bit too close to religion for me.
discipleoftheteapot 1 month ago
Great interview and one to get you thinking. Interesting to hear her comparing Christmas (built on falsehoods) to her Jewish traditions (also built on falsehoods). It just doesn’t quite make sense to me. As an Atheist I just about tolerate Christmas once a year but certainly wouldn’t put up with performing a multitude of pointless religious traditions all year round. Slightly hypercritical of me perhaps?
aaronbr00ker 1 month ago
You could see how tempted Richard was to leg it when she asked to be his friend
drsmithification 1 month ago
Her continuous head bobbing and void like assurance is uncanny...
H4NN1B4LCL 1 month ago
Does anyone else think she looks like one of those mean fat little girls in grade school who would always cut in the Lunch Line?
BallerandRunner 1 month ago 3
@BallerandRunner
Not everyone that understands English is an Americunt.
nopecharliesnoangel 1 month ago
dawkins is so troubled person ,you can see that a mile
greenscorpio1967 1 month ago
Martinjackson909
People listen to Professor Richard Dawkins because he presents EVIDENCE, which can be tested. Even if he's making money, so what. Those with whom he debates are religious charlatans and frauds. Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris and Dennett have had no equals in debate with any person of faith. It's because they can underpin their arguments with reason and evidence, and they're not assholes!
shzode 1 month ago
agree with killerinstinct: if only there were more like her it wouldn't be so hard to be a freethinker in america
gotaiwo 1 month ago
The woman's an idiot. Hitchens would have had her for breakfast. It's typical of those who observe faith, their arguments are skewed, I'll thought out, and half baked. Dawkins should have told her to shut the fuck up. Jews as a "people" are responsible for inflicting centuries of pain and misery by mutilating the genitals of children. Disgusting and shameful.
shzode 1 month ago
People that listen to Dawkins are as blind as people that listen to Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity. Its about saying whatever people want to hear and they make a lot of money doing so. Don’t you think Dawkins is getting over the top?
martinjackson909 1 month ago
@martinjackson909 why are people that listen to dawkins blind? why are people that listen to limbaugh blind?
egokick 1 month ago
@martinjackson909 Marty, here you are on another video, babbling the same crap.
216trixie 1 month ago
1:05 "The famous Jewish thing is that you put 3 Jews in a room, you get 5 opinions."
You throw a penny on the floor in between 2 Jews and they will fight for its possession.
Aeros802 1 month ago
Is it just me, or others can see it as well, that Dawkins is getting more and more uncomfortable during this Interview. At the end he looks very nervous and confused. Something is very wrong...
coolwebmaster 1 month ago
you will NEVER find a muslim atheist. i'm still surprised how this woman could totally ignore the torah to become an atheistic jewish traditionalist.
halflifeproductionz 1 month ago
@halflifeproductionz "you will NEVER find a muslim atheist". Not even in America or Europe? It is very rare to find.
martinjackson909 1 month ago
She's wrong when she says Judaism is not a "creed" - an incompetent woman. God ultimately wants all to announce the creed of God in Judaism, and the "Jewish people" is not an exclusivity game but an idiomatic message to propagate the message of the Lord for all peoples. The Jewish people is a figure of speech, not a reality, so this is used to invite all of humanity to come under Judaism since humanity is God's creation. This woman is uneducated.
BallerandRunner 1 month ago
Is it only me or she looks a bit fake?
BlueDemeter 1 month ago
lol is she trying to hypnotize him?
BlueDemeter 1 month ago
@BlueDemeter LOLL thats hella funny. I think she is trying to hypnotize him, so she can put him to sleep, and bake him in the oven. She looks hungry but that's not unusual..
BallerandRunner 1 month ago
So is Judaism turning into a culture and philoshophy and debying its theological teaching and background? or she her opinions doesn't reflect other rabbi's ideas?
BlueDemeter 1 month ago
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Her head keeps moving...it makes me uncomfortable.
FluffMachine 1 month ago
Just because you think you have vision does not mean you put forth the justification of speaking about it! Free atheism! Going against it just condemns religosity to its beginning! Define atheism as term for term; a spoken concept is realized when it has the power to relize it; this is not the definition to religion!
in2dionysus 1 month ago
Decisive justification should be defined! Some should not ramble on about concepts they share in certain moteifs that do not differ with each others lives. Reasoning is not blind, it does have a starting point; just define the starting point, this is what religion has done over the years, most of it is not about belief - philosophically speaking! It runs on like most ramblings and that is where the trouble starts! Atheism from the beginning has been definined; what happens if it hasn't?Realized
in2dionysus 1 month ago
This is our rabbi! She officiated at our wedding, our sons funeral and our other sons naming! This is so cool! I shared it with my FB and I think there were a few people who were shocked to find out that they were at an atheist ceremony! They did not notice the lack of god, and everyone thought the ceremonies were beautiful!
forseyworsey 1 month ago 2
@forseyworsey Maybe they didn't notice because they're no mind pricks that have been programmed not to think for themselves, but to let others do their thinking for them. Maybe that's why they didn't notice. You could have stood up there and babbled on about bullshit for four hours and they wouldn't have noticed. But if you got up and questioned any of them about the damages inflicted by their common beliefs, you will find out just how patient these people really are.
NanoHorizon 1 month ago
Hmm, I think you guys are a bit too hard on her. She doesn't seem to be much of a skeptic, and perhaps has some lingering dogmatism about her... But she certainly isn't an awful person, and she does seem to have an open mind. At least in her case, unlike most people, any faith that she might be clinging onto is in no position to harm anyone but herself, it would seem. But come on, we've seen all of 20 minutes of this woman, don't pick HER of all people to troll.
TheErotemeSays 1 month ago
I find her truly slimy, creepy, slyly dishonest & unctuous.
MichaelKingsfordGray 1 month ago
I don't understand all the hatred towards this lady. She promoting a warm community without a god. I don't see anything wrong with that. Despite its irrationalities, the communities religions promote are actually very healthy. It has been shown in studies that the longest living people tend to belong to a religious group. They live longer not because people pray for them but because they keep themselves engaged in warm community all the way to their oldest of ages.
DExxxxxTR 1 month ago
@DExxxxxTR So, then, religions have nothing to do with living longer.
People with some genes, given good/safe circumstances, live 30-60 years longer than the average. And the probability of their offspring also living longer is higher.
In short, living very long has nothing to do with superstitions. It's mostly a combination of: ---- luck (where you're born, etc.), genes (born with less sickly genes, etc.), taking care of the self (living healthily, mentally & bodily, etc)...
HenryDavidT 1 month ago
@HenryDavidT Yes, I do agree with you. Like you pointed out, there are many reasons that people live longer than others. One of those reasons that you mentioned is mental health. My point is that religious COMMUNITIES are mentally healthy, not the superstitious part of religions. I did not say that if you belong to a religious group you are guaranteed to live longer. She is not promoting a superstitious church that worships a god. However, she is following cultural rituals.
DExxxxxTR 1 month ago
@HenryDavidT There is a video of Dan Dennett on this channel where he actually discusses this topic. I think the name of the video is 'Good Reason for believing in God'. He discusses all the good reasons for religion. If you know Dennett, then you know he is a hard-core Atheist so he is not in any way suggesting you take up a religion. He discusses what good things Atheist can take from religion. One of those is community.
DExxxxxTR 1 month ago
@HenryDavidT I think I suggested the wrong Dan Dennett video. It might be 'Evolution of Religion'. They are all very long so I just skipped through them. I will go back later this evening and watch them again and let you know the right one. Regardless of which video he discusses it, Dan is always fun to listen to.
DExxxxxTR 1 month ago
@HenryDavidT Okay, I found the video. It is not on this channel but search youtube for 'Daniel C. Dennett on What Should Replace Religions'. It is a very good lecture.
DExxxxxTR 1 month ago
I get the impression that she just accepts any old idea, even as a deep metaphor.
KayAteChef 1 month ago
Even without a god, she still thinks she's one of the 'chosen' people - which is creepy.
Religion restricts & corrupts life but she still holds onto those stupid restrictions - madness!
Peace.
klhcc 1 month ago 22
@klhcc Didn't you hear the bit about the criterion she uses for whether to observe a tradition or practice? She specifically said that she does not hold onto restrictive practices that undermine human dignity. Religion restricts and corruptions life WHEN it's attached to religious dogma. I'm with Dawkins in that I don't feel attached to traditions or cultural practices, but if other people do I think that's just dandy.
Marguereth 1 month ago
@klhcc
It's like football teams to her, she wants HER people to be at the top of the league.
I think she may of had too many briscits.
HowardWolowitzFan 1 month ago
@klhcc Actually, she does NOT think Jews are the chosen people. She's a Humanistic Rabbi, and Humanistic Judaism, which is non-theistic, explicitly repudiates the position that Jews are chosen people.
pwizenberg 1 month ago
@klhcc Did she say that she's still one of the chosen people? Where did she say that?
BigDiamondCutter 1 month ago
@klhcc You are wrong by saying she thinks she is one of the 'chosen people', she merely said that being Jewish is a religion and/or also a nationality.
roac7777 1 month ago
@roac7777 well, she's wrong about that. judaism as well as "jewishness" are no nationality.
Meskiagkasher 1 month ago
@Meskiagkasher JUdaism is a religion, Israeli is a nationality, but you can be Jewish and be English or American or Italian or any number of different nationalities. To be a muslim is strictly belonging to the Islamic faith. To be a Christian is to belong to the Christian faith.
roac7777 1 month ago
@roac7777 And? To be a Jew is strictly belonging to the Jewish faith.
Meskiagkasher 1 month ago
@Meskiagkasher Not so
roac7777 1 month ago
@roac7777 only nazis and jews claim otherwise.
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@Meskiagkasher Your ignorance is overwhelming, do not get lost in thought, you would be in unfamiliar territory.
roac7777 1 month ago
@klhcc You are a stigmatic idiot
Forkroute 1 month ago
@klhcc she never said that she thinks that jews are the chosen people, she simply upholds judaistic tradition in her household and community, which is a quite noble thing to do. And if she chooses to not use electricity during sabbath, so what? It is her choice. Fact of the matter remains that she does not impose the torah and its falsehood upon her kids, or others. I see absolutely nothing wrong with her way of life/thinking, and I think your just trying to find a reason to criticize her
killerinstinct1337 1 month ago 4
@killerinstinct1337 what a crock. I will listen to part 1 before finishing this one. clicked out at 2:41 drowned from her crock.
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@killerinstinct1337 She selectively upholds judaic traditions. The trends show that her children, will observe even fewer of those traditions - until....
lourak 1 month ago
@killerinstinct1337 "And if she chooses to not use electricity during sabbath, so what? It is her choice." But it is rather odd isn't it? It's interesting to contemplate WHY people feel better if they follow bizarre archaic traditions/superstitions - no electricity one day a week, don't eat animals with cloven feet, stand on one leg on Tuesdays wearing a pink hat (I made that last one up but it's really no less pointless!)
ryko26 1 month ago
@ryko26 To my understanding of this video, I suppose it's because she values the social gatherings or celebrations that the jewish lifestyle provides.
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BallerandRunner 1 month ago
@klhcc well i'm an atheist jew & i don't see myself as "chosen". in fact, every jew i know (which is Many) don't see themselves as "chosen". u completely misunderstood her views. she lives in a culture, a way of life, while thinking about each aspect of it whether its dignified, meaningful etc. that's a very open way of thinking, more so than ur way of thinking which is "she is a jew, mad bitch". she said herself, "3 jews, 5 opinions", us jews are Open-Minded, strongly dialectical in culture.
oc00011 1 month ago
what a backward talking, passively positioned, blatantly fabricated opinion she has constructed. she is either not a true practicing member of the Jewish faith or the most missguided jew at temple. how do people like this manage to accomplish anything?
SnoopyA1979 1 month ago
hahahahah JEW IS AN ETHNICITY?!! WHAT A LOAD OF FUCKING SHIT!!! this bitch is retarded... the only REAL ETHNIC jews are against israel. dont believe me? look it up. the ONLY REAL ETHNIC SEMITIC JEWS, are the only ones who know the truth and they dislike dumb bitch white whores like her
PersiaWithoutISLAM 1 month ago
at 3:31 he is just like oh damn, what am I going to say to this crazy woman.
MrSixsa 1 month ago
I am a humanist Jew, and this women is a retard.
1646Alex 1 month ago
what is this tribal nonsense????
stephenexmachina 1 month ago
A lot of babbling on about Babylon.
LAnonHubbard 1 month ago
Jesus can go to hell.
dstroyer01 1 month ago
@dstroyer01 He already went there...they didn't want him.
mwildish 1 month ago
JESUS CHRIST IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY HIM. JOHN 14:6. See my videos page for PROOF Jesus is real. Of course you atheist always find an excuse not to believe though sigh
kobe88us 1 month ago
@kobe88us " Of course you atheist always find an excuse not to believe though sigh"
We don't need excuses, we ask for plausible reasons to believe. I don't accept the words or writings of other humans on how to appease a deity.
What is your reason to believe?
hawklord2001 1 month ago
@kobe88us Jesus was a rampant homosexual and child molester. Why would you worship such a person?
1n354a 1 month ago
@1n354a There is no historical evidence that Jesus was either a child molester or a homosexual. Not that there is anything wrong in being homosexual.
roac7777 1 month ago
@roac7777 partially true - there was no evidence that Jesus ever was, let alone what his sexual orientation or perversions were. I just embellished the story a bit just as the Gospel writers did.....I am sure that the Holy Spirit is probably talking through me.
1n354a 1 month ago
@1n354a There is no god.
roac7777 1 month ago
@kobe88us Fail
kphilpott77 1 month ago
she has shown that religion is about community as much as it is about theology, it's a way of supporting the old and sick people in a society, a place to celebrate marriages, births and so on. Dawkins lives in a society that does all the same things, but if you look at what happens in the secular society, it often doesn't do them as well. The Rabbi is a leader of a community, she does what she is meant to do.
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susancrayner1 1 month ago
She's a moron.
joe84au 1 month ago
So, birthright? Given by whom?
mikeybear69 1 month ago
Whenever i hear a woman wanting to 'go on a journey' i can't help but be reminded of Bette Middler in 'down and out in beverly hills'
tehKap0w 1 month ago
read, what i've written here before.
there is no jewish "people" (least of all a chosen one)
jewish holidays, clothing rules, dietary laws, etc are derived from judaism, every aspect that would make up a "culture" is entirely religious among jews. if you remove that you have a non-religious jew. but where would be the difference to a non-religious catholic or protestant or muslim? there is none. what is left is just a person with no particular affiliation.
Meskiagkasher 1 month ago
she destroyed dawkins with the point about christmas, what a hypocrite! hang your head in shame richard
nubl37 1 month ago
@nubl37 lol
laugurinn 1 month ago
@nubl37 LOL you super fucking failed. How did she own him about christmas? christmas is a fiscal holiday you dumb fuck. and our NATIONS and STATES propagate it by making it a stat holiday. I know millions of atheists who still adhere to the demands of capitalism by buying their loved ones GIFTS on christmas. Jesus wasn't even born on that day, and quite probably jesus wasn't born at all. they are 2 separate things. educate yourself retard. christmas is ANCIENT SIBERIAN SHAMANISTIC RITUAL
PersiaWithoutISLAM 1 month ago
watched, then read comments. what in the world? from what I could gather, it sounds like she's a naturalist who adheres to the culture but not the religion. It's just that her culture is intertwined with religion. she says some stupid things(lawl, dawkins have religion), but she says a lot of stuff that isn't stupid.
osaka35 1 month ago
@osaka35 yes? what is the stuff that isn't stupid?
Meskiagkasher 1 month ago
@Meskiagkasher how christians follow a creed, how jews are a people (which relates to her main point). Basically, what she's saying is she's trying to separate her culture from the religion she doesn't believe in. Trying to take what's culturally important to her away from something that most consider strictly religious.
osaka35 1 month ago
@osaka35 what? jewishness is entirely derived from judaism.
Meskiagkasher 1 month ago
@Meskiagkasher If you're trying to say that you're only jewish if you follow/believe the jewish religion, then no, that concept is horribly wrong.
osaka35 1 month ago
This is so strange...
But a friend is a friend.
Aphexexmachina 1 month ago
To me, all life evolved from the planet we now find ourselves living on. This is self evident. We mirror the earth. Look at the circulatory system of the earth and then, observe your systems of rivers and creeks inside you(veins, arteries, etc.) furthermore study a leaf for example or any other living thing. Our chemical make up is similar to our planet. Our tears are the same ph as salt water. We are of the earth and we act as though we are silly monkeys wearing different hats (religions for
ScottWelchGuitar 1 month ago
What a weird ass bitch
conman2317 1 month ago
When you learn to love it doesn't make any difference whether being jewish is good or bad, right or wrong, when you truly love, then everybody is worthy regardless of how they define themselves. I am a Jewess and a Woman and a Human Being in no particular order. There is no one way, if science becomes the one and only way, then that will just be another form social control.
susancrayner1 1 month ago
Holy shit....why the hell is Dawkins interviewing this crack pot?
sangsomlipo 1 month ago
@sangsomlipo maybe he thought she could sell him some drugs?...
clearly this woman has no grasp of *anything*.
Meskiagkasher 1 month ago
So being Jewish is an ethnicity. Alright that's fine. It's a Semitic (aka middle eastern) ethnicity..... Am I the only one who's noticed that this woman doesn't appear to be of middle eastern decent? I dunno. Seems kinda like she wants to be able to claim some sort of special status beyond her culture and beliefs. Falsely giving herself extra credibility. Makes her seem like a stuck up bitch from where I'm sitting. /shrug
Arikiel 1 month ago
@Arikiel there is no such thing as a semitic ethnicity. there are only semitic languages.
Meskiagkasher 1 month ago
I have many times thought "not having a belief, is still just another belief". That train of thought really allows people to respect other people culturally
36squared 1 month ago
@36squared why? because respect is only possible for poeple who hold a belief?
Meskiagkasher 1 month ago
@Meskiagkasher Lool, I didnt mean it like that. I just found it useful when your finding a tremendous amount of difficulty communicating with someone with such a whacked ideology such as religion.
36squared 1 month ago
Are those "Bit O Honeys" in the bowl there???
garrett2104 1 month ago
Crappy sound, but what an amazing woman!!!
Cheers
ekhaat 1 month ago
I have not heard such new-age crap since I was a wiccan. Don't fall for it!!!
Hitch was right, "religion poisons everything"
rednecktrucker1969 1 month ago 8
@rednecktrucker1969 Listening to her, I get the impression that all she wants to keep is the traditions of the Jewish faith but literally discard the faith. It appears that to keep a culture while discarding the irrational parts of the culture seems rationally honest. It would be like Christians meeting at a church while discarding the superstition of their god and keeping the community fellowship and morals in a new secular rational setting. Perhaps it can work. Don't know.
BigDiamondCutter 1 month ago
I am an atheist. I confront religious ideas, I crush religious arguments and stupidity and I enjoy doing it. For the people who say she is crazy or stupid must have not heard the same talk I have. She makes much more sense then your complaints about her. All she is saying is they still do the customs IF they are acceptable because they have a connection with it that’s it. There was no talk about superstition or dogma and she clearly wasn't moving the goal post. You guys are the ass hats.
moety2 1 month ago 2
meskiakasher, I am not convinced youtube is any less "fake" than the Jewish religion or joining a golf club or watching Big Brother on TV. The point about this programme is that it shows two people having a grown up discussion, where adults respect each other's differences.
susancrayner1 1 month ago
@susancrayner1 but YouTube makes no claims about being a people, or having an ancient history, or about a deity, now does it?
and I seriously doubt that Kolton is grown up or deserves respect for her weird views.
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susancrayner1 1 month ago
Wow, she's fucking stupid. How the hell can she ask if Dawkin was religious? Does she live under a rock?
SolomonKull 1 month ago
@SolomonKull Oh, I think she knew, she was just making a point.
But I think you are rude.
ekhaat 1 month ago
The only thing I agree with from her, is that Judaism isn't a religion so much as it is a culture, where Christianity is a religion.
boburanus69 1 month ago
@boburanus69 judaism is not a culture. it's an attitude.
Meskiagkasher 1 month ago
meskiagkasher, she is speaking from a non intellectual point of view about the human need for community and culture as well as being respectful towards the Christian and the atheist, what more could you want than that?
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@susancrayner1 if one has already recognized judaism and jewishness as something fake, why hold on to it? aren't there better communities than these?
Meskiagkasher 1 month ago
huh...what a monologue... :D a professional deformation of mrs. Kolton...blah, blah...
efkagore 1 month ago
that was nice
TheJMan11000111 1 month ago
well done Tamara, you show very clearly the need for culture, community, shared interests as shared by Dawkins - brilliant job done, you can speak to another human being with dignity, self control and intelligence, look how some people only insult because they don't know how else to communicate, how sad is that.
susancrayner1 1 month ago
@susancrayner1 yet she presents pure intellectual rubbish. subsequently the dignity is not that important.
Meskiagkasher 1 month ago
i dont get why this fat bitch gets to talk to the great richard dawKing
Xytos 1 month ago
@Xytos and I don't get why a rude person like you would poison his commentsection with your vommit
ekhaat 1 month ago
@Xytos you're just making a fool of yourself. Did you even listen to the talk or you just browse videos judging people? They are two people having a respectful conversation. And here you come refering to her look as if it had any relevance to the issues and making Dawkins into an unreachable king. Dawkins chose to interview her.
MarcoArsenault 1 month ago
She says that contrary to Christians, "Jews are a people". This is BS!!! To understand that one just have to read the book "The Invention of the Jewish People", by Shlomo Sand, Professor of History at Tel Aviv University.
237Michael 1 month ago
Wow. I cant listen to hear without wanting to slap her and say " SAY SOMETHING NOT REHEARSED!"
baronsengir187 1 month ago
Did she really ask Dawkins if he practiced any religion?
What rock has she been hiding under?
dohngl 1 month ago 33
@dohngl - "Did she really ask Dawkins if he practiced any religion?" "Practice" does not equate to "believe". There are a number of atheists (of course, small in percentages) who *practice* the religion with their families and communities, yet are still staunch NON-believers. She asked a perfectly valid question. "Practice" in this context is purely related to family/community traditions. As she continued, she further asked specifically about family and community. Weren't you listening?
BigMTBrain 1 month ago
@BigMTBrain I do accept your point on the semantics of religious practice but come on! Dawkins is the best known atheist on the planet. Two minutes of research on the man she was talking to would have told her this was a silly question.
dohngl 1 month ago
@dohngl -This is all certainly a minor issue, but when the question hadn't crossed your mind before, what's better than asking the source directly? We all know a great deal about Dawkins' professional life and philosophies, but only an extreme few of us would know anything about his family life and practices. As humans, we quite often presume based on other knowns. However, when trying to reach the heart of a matter for concrete answers and to inform our logic, we must ask explicitly.
BigMTBrain 1 month ago
this women is a boring turd.
ianixon 1 month ago
...she talks weird
agent12803 1 month ago
She throws around the word "science" as if her religion is on equal grounds. Her religion is not on equal ground at all.
a1mint 1 month ago
I think she is nuts, moving the goal posts, confusing issues, and not listening to Dawkins at all. I like how Dawkins just let the issues slide and let her have her say rather than get that gooey mess of sentimental rationalizations all over him. The one thing she does remind me of, however, is the history of Judaism redefining its god over and over again per its situation and needs of the community.
Prelude610 1 month ago 40
@Prelude610 agreed, I posted a video reply to this, but they did not accept it....lol
rednecktrucker1969 1 month ago
Is one's sense of personal identity assigned from one's past, or are we self-determining? Is it defined historically- one's heritage? Or is it defined under the environmental and social conditions one grows up around? Is divisive thinking the result of globalization- a response to a world because more and more interconnected and interdependent?
rpm297 1 month ago
@rpm297 personal identity are neuron interactions in the brain that get set, defined, grow and die over the course of an individuals life. We are as a matter of physical reality - apes. Beyond that any effort to laminate historical cultural BELIEFS onto personal identity is just that. It is no different than insisting on having to wear a special brand of shirt or shoes. The fact that people will kill to have those shoes (I literally mean shoes) or belong to a religious group IS the evidence.
generationalist 1 month ago
Jewish nationality.. lol.. What a joke. There a more black jews than the supposed tribe of israel. I think their orthodox teachings are wider spread then some fucked up sect of kabala.
ChristopherLuck 1 month ago
Her: Do you practice any religion?
Him: .... no..
bukifuriku 1 month ago
her arrogance is beyond irritating
dancingnancy09 1 month ago
@dancingnancy09 At least she doesn't honestly believe the religion she follows.
odykay 1 month ago
@odykay yes - but I wasnt referring to her being blindly deluded- I was referring to her arrogance- relgion or no- her arrogance is repugnant- its never a good or attractrive quality
dancingnancy09 1 month ago
Prof Dawkins patience with utterly annoying people should be a subject of study in its own right.
Englansi 1 month ago
This woman is such a cretin, I can see how uncomfortable Dawkins looks sitting there, I bet he wonders what he is doing talking to this misguided fool.
angryafghan 1 month ago 2