They still should have flown the plane. They have their attitude indicator that shows level flight and they have their engine thrust indicators that show power. With those two instruments they can fly. Modern pilots are so spoiled by automated flight systems, that when those systems quit, they are overwhelmed by having to do actual hands on flying. Instead of looking through manuals to find out why the autopilot isn't working, they should have been flying the plane.
@david230196 No that was not possible, because they didn´t know or saw later, that the only choice was going back to airport. The way ahead was full of cumulonimbus, there was no way around them.- They just forgot pitch´n power.
Pilot error then. If they follow standard procedure for loss of flight controls, tilt the nose up set engine power to 85% they should of been able to ride this out.
Although the pilots had very much hours on that kind of aircraft, I think they did never experience what stall really means and what is the right thing to do to get back airflow over the wings. As an former RC pilot I had made much experience with that phenomenon. I think stall and getting out of stall is not a situation that is taught in Airbus`s simulators because the Flight Computer( I call him `Hell`) will not allow this situation( if it can!). But this was alternate law!
@steuererhoehung bull shit all commercial pilots are well familiar with the dynamics of a stall and stall aversion and are supposed to undergo rigorous training no matter the aircraft (boeing airbus MD whatever). Pilots on airbus' participate a lot more during landing and take off so suggesting that they wouldnt be taught how to identify and avoid a stall is absolutely ludicrous.... these pilots just fucked up and air france sucks, nothing to do with standard airbus training
as demonstrated in your own video, if you follow the procedures, nothing happens. Pitch & Power is key. Hence not the pitots caused the stall, but the pilot.
They still should have flown the plane. They have their attitude indicator that shows level flight and they have their engine thrust indicators that show power. With those two instruments they can fly. Modern pilots are so spoiled by automated flight systems, that when those systems quit, they are overwhelmed by having to do actual hands on flying. Instead of looking through manuals to find out why the autopilot isn't working, they should have been flying the plane.
theknightlynews 1 week ago
@theknightlyne Yes, you`re 100% right.
steuererhoehung 1 week ago
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333hughesj 2 weeks ago
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333hughesj 2 weeks ago
Silly pilots ,... If only they had changed their course ! You can't fly accros a cumulonimbus !
david230196 3 weeks ago
@david230196 No that was not possible, because they didn´t know or saw later, that the only choice was going back to airport. The way ahead was full of cumulonimbus, there was no way around them.- They just forgot pitch´n power.
steuererhoehung 1 week ago
Pull the noise up I. Fly a Boeing 747 American airlines
masonhowell558 1 month ago
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333hughesj 2 weeks ago
@masonhowell558 I guess you don't realize that American doesn't have any 747s.
theknightlynews 1 week ago
Pilot error then. If they follow standard procedure for loss of flight controls, tilt the nose up set engine power to 85% they should of been able to ride this out.
shells075 1 month ago
haha 06:00 ... Guy says "So when things go f... very wrong"... I think he ment "fucked up!"
Zapust 2 months ago
If liquid super-cold water could freeze the pitot tubes like this, what's to say they could not also overwhelm wing anti-ice?
rolfen 3 months ago
@rolfen anti icing is powered by exaust hot air from throttles. Pitot is powered by electricity only and is maybe to weak.
steuererhoehung 1 week ago
msm coisa que passou na globo
JoaoBatist4 5 months ago
Although the pilots had very much hours on that kind of aircraft, I think they did never experience what stall really means and what is the right thing to do to get back airflow over the wings. As an former RC pilot I had made much experience with that phenomenon. I think stall and getting out of stall is not a situation that is taught in Airbus`s simulators because the Flight Computer( I call him `Hell`) will not allow this situation( if it can!). But this was alternate law!
steuererhoehung 6 months ago
@steuererhoehung bull shit all commercial pilots are well familiar with the dynamics of a stall and stall aversion and are supposed to undergo rigorous training no matter the aircraft (boeing airbus MD whatever). Pilots on airbus' participate a lot more during landing and take off so suggesting that they wouldnt be taught how to identify and avoid a stall is absolutely ludicrous.... these pilots just fucked up and air france sucks, nothing to do with standard airbus training
angryman1007 6 months ago
@steuererhoehung Yes , exactly.
steuererhoehung 1 week ago
as demonstrated in your own video, if you follow the procedures, nothing happens. Pitch & Power is key. Hence not the pitots caused the stall, but the pilot.
mhoerster 6 months ago
ass the way ya do it. Just be as quick as a flash.
Don't hang about,just in an out.
An always ask for...............cash.
rw5791 7 months ago