That could very well be......... But there are so Many artists with the same ways of painting as him... I think your on the right track but if you get any more evidence just let me know! Because I don't know about you but I love Vincent he is my romodel! 😄 if you don't mind me asking.... Would you like to share the cost of this painting?
oke first off all, to determine if a painting is the stile off Vincent is very diffucult,he not allways painted in stripes, so the stile of your painting could be possible, the face : yes it does look like Vincent, (you could make a better video,with a HD camera) oke do i believe that its an original Van Gogh? Yes i believe its very possible.
go look the right people here in holland, should be not very difficult. good luck
All these people suggesting you take it to the Vincent van Gogh Foundation and museum Are not all that up on the way that organization really works. All one would have to do to see what their expertise is really about is to get yourself the video of Me, My Brother's and My Father's Van Gogh. This little educational film put out by Riverain Prod. Ltd. 205 Cordova St. Winnipeg. MB, then they could see for themselves what others with Vincent's art is face with.
Bueno, ¿quien no quisiera encontrarse un Van Gogh desconocido?. Sería noticia mundial. Y no dejaría de valer muchos millones de dolares. Sí que debe haber más de uno sin descubrir (aparte de los que fueron destruidos en las Guerras del siglo XX).
Por lo que veo, sí podría tratarse de un retrato de la época; pero no veo rasgos faciales similares a ninguno de los autoretratos que dejó Vincent.
Parece mas el rostro de Paul GAUGIN.
Recomiendo realizar análisis de Rayos X... para ver lo que subyace.
Lastly, i lived 10 years at Asnieres sur Oise very close to Auvers sur Oise. Coincidences do happen... Auvers is a very lovely village especially this time of year. Van Gogh and his brother Theo are buried side by side there. Vincent died on the 29th July 1890, from a self inflicted gunshot wound to the stomach.
In 10 years that Vincent Willem Van Gogh painted 1880/90 until his death at Auvers sur Oise, he painted 880 paintings...his catalogue raisone states this. However, in Auvers he spent just 2 months and painted somewhere like 70/80 paintings and many drawings...which means that he could paint fast and prolifically, so... It is very possible that many early paintings have disappeared, lost, rotted, destroyed...or...found. Keep looking you never know
Having looked at petroz.com and more detail of this painting which is very lightly painted. Van Gogh always finished off his work. This portrait does not look like Vincent Van Gogh... The face the eyes, the hat, the level of completion... It seems to be a study painting, a rough, Van Gogh only did finished pieces. He was hyper prolific! Fast painter. He could paint a landscape in 3 hours in the blazing sun. Why these certainties? No expert can be 100% certain. However, as i am an artist, my Gra
Bloody ipad... Found a Van Gogh in the Paris flee market...they were certain it was real. It even looked real, old linen, style oriinal view, the chassis (stretcher) was properly aged, and they had huge difficulty in getting the expertx to accept it. Also, in Van Gogh's letters over 800 letters where he just about mentions all his work his feelings and his needs for art materials etc there was no mention...at the Van Gogj Museum it will be most certainly refused, because the Van Gogj decendant
It is not van Gogh. It is Heinricht Luuten, a minor painter, born in Prague, who lived and worked in Basil, and who primarily painted landscapes, with the exception of 18 self-portraits which he executed between the ages of 18 and 45. His larger landscapes generally sell in the range of $1,500-3,500 USD, his portraits in the range of $600-1,200 USD.
I'd hang on to the painting and if possible get it into the hands of some qualified persons here in the U.S. I've studied van Gogh and he could have done any style. We think he did 100's of "realistic" paintings and it's assumed today most were destroyed. But as a "realist" van Gogh didn't have it for his times. impressionism was his only chance for sales so he went that way. His earlier paintings have mostly disappeared and many were simply destroyed because they were considered to be so bad.
good I agree with Rometschmeister that you need to take it to Amsterdam to the VanGogh museum. I am sure they get a lot of photographs of "lost Van Gogh" paintings. Be persistent until someone looks at it.
i just uploaded a video of an oil painting that took me 5 months to finish.
i would like to get some feedback on it. so if everyone that reads this could check it out and let me know what you think it would help me out! the video is called -- monumental oil painting- from start to finish. thanks everyone!
this is a joke aye !!! how did he get into swiss bank and whys he on utbe absolute piss he would be national if he had a painting like that the world would know wot an a******e DONT GIVE HIM UR MUNI IF U GO ONTO HIS WEBSITE HE IS DEF A CON MAN ARSEHOLE !!!!!
this painting as it is shown there- is in poor conditions- the light has to be diffirent and the person should just talk not show himself, that i can see what a painting it actually is. hang it on the wall, put a good light on it. her it is most of the time in shadow.
Vincent had a preiod of Arles, in that time he painted more nature. hits pianting may be by that period- but one s gotta see it...as it is presented here- you may not claim anything.
I would get that authenticated, I wouldn't be certain that it is his but even if it isn't and still proves to be a 19th century 20th century painting, could still be worth something good.
It doesn't look like his style. It seems too subdued, without the impasto brushwork. It looks too institutional. You can tell a van Gogh immediately. Sorry. Why hasn't he submitted it to Christie's or Sotheby's? They'd surely have it appraised if it was a suspected van Gogh.
Definately not a Van Gogh, All paintings he did from that period in time, Vincent was still learning. The reason he was in Paris was to hopefully meet the NEW Impressionists he has heard much about and also he was there to meet painters who would tell him if he was good. He never sold a painting and he only gave one away! The story of the cabaret is false.
FALSE, BECAUSE ....... Vince had his brother who already was established as an Art Dealer and would have never had his brother show his work at a cabaret, especially with Lautrec in the center of it all, Lautrec painted Vincent but that was it! even Lautrec never exhibited at a CABARET!
Cabaret....... Theo would have never allowed for such a place to have kept his brothers work, he was in love with Vincent art, even though he could not make him a single sale. This painting is of a fine art painter...
It resembles Van Gogh, but surely there is no way to tell without an extensive study of the piece by experts. At the time Van Gogh lived, a lot of painters used that kind of canvas, Van Gogh didn't often stretch his own, it could have easily been purchased.
It's just a painting (maybe from the XIX century) of a moustached man with a hat...Neither the style nor the colors (not even the man portrayed) resembles van Gogh. A hoax, no doubt.
it is probably worth $10... and if it actually was real, one hundred thousand at most... not one hundred million. there are only 6 paintings that have EVER sold for over $100 million
I agree with Rometschmeister that you need to take it to Amsterdam to the VanGogh museum. I am sure they get a lot of photographs of "lost Van Gogh" paintings. Be persistent until someone looks at it.
I think you should not touch it when you are pointing to its attributes. Vincent wrote to his brother about the paintings he was working on and described them. I also think you should take it to Amsterdam.
Thank you lizardgirl for your comfort, i hope some day you can see it for real. If you come to Geneva, I would be glade to show it to you and your friends, because it is a little gem.
I did send a picture to the Vincent van Gogh museum in Amsterdam, to Mr Louis van Tilborgh who after examining the photograph answered "that this work cannot be attributed to Vincent van Gogh"!!!
He did not explain why nor wanted to see the painting.
@petrozfineart This is a problem so it might pay you to pay for it to be expertised privately? I have to be honest - it does not seem to be him or a painting by him as we see it here. It might be better to do some great close-up clearer pics? The Van Gogh Museum have to check so many they just don't have time to explain why they say no, although I still think they should. Appeal with extra evidence and they may look at it again though. x
It couldn't be a copy because there is no other version of this portrait and if it was a fake it would be recorded in Delafaille's inventory book of fakes.
I just started to show it and the interest is already great, my goal is to find a way to exhibit the portrait in a world tour.
I recently showed it to Mr Yves Calmejane who was writing a book about self portraits "Histoire de moi ou histoire des autoportraits" Thalia Editions December 2006.
So did you find out if it was the real thing or just a copy? I'm a Van Gogh fan and this caught my attention a lot. Please let me know about the results.
There are many things left to discover about one of the most famous painters in the world.
A young art lover, Jules Petroz, has recently discovered in a flea market a portrait which could be dated from the Parisian period of Van Gogh. If it was a self-portrait, it would be the fortieth. The small painting has character; dark coloured and the gaunt face could correspond to the artist's look when arrived in Paris, he was sheltered by his brother Theo.
He arrived broke from Anvers and physically diminished. Very little is known from this period, most of what we know being based on the brothers's reciprocal letters.
After quarrelling with girlfriend Agostina Segatori, (the 'Tambourine' holder, a cabaret in Montmartre where Vincent had hanged most of his latest works), he came back to collect his works; alas! The cabaret had shut down, the lady gone and the paintings sold for a few francs to a junk dealer...
That could very well be......... But there are so Many artists with the same ways of painting as him... I think your on the right track but if you get any more evidence just let me know! Because I don't know about you but I love Vincent he is my romodel! 😄 if you don't mind me asking.... Would you like to share the cost of this painting?
HappyCrazee64 2 weeks ago
oke first off all, to determine if a painting is the stile off Vincent is very diffucult,he not allways painted in stripes, so the stile of your painting could be possible, the face : yes it does look like Vincent, (you could make a better video,with a HD camera) oke do i believe that its an original Van Gogh? Yes i believe its very possible.
go look the right people here in holland, should be not very difficult. good luck
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All these people suggesting you take it to the Vincent van Gogh Foundation and museum Are not all that up on the way that organization really works. All one would have to do to see what their expertise is really about is to get yourself the video of Me, My Brother's and My Father's Van Gogh. This little educational film put out by Riverain Prod. Ltd. 205 Cordova St. Winnipeg. MB, then they could see for themselves what others with Vincent's art is face with.
vanrijngo 8 months ago
Bueno, ¿quien no quisiera encontrarse un Van Gogh desconocido?. Sería noticia mundial. Y no dejaría de valer muchos millones de dolares. Sí que debe haber más de uno sin descubrir (aparte de los que fueron destruidos en las Guerras del siglo XX).
Por lo que veo, sí podría tratarse de un retrato de la época; pero no veo rasgos faciales similares a ninguno de los autoretratos que dejó Vincent.
Parece mas el rostro de Paul GAUGIN.
Recomiendo realizar análisis de Rayos X... para ver lo que subyace.
Venceremos1960 9 months ago
Auvers sur oise
Whatever3114 9 months ago
Lastly, i lived 10 years at Asnieres sur Oise very close to Auvers sur Oise. Coincidences do happen... Auvers is a very lovely village especially this time of year. Van Gogh and his brother Theo are buried side by side there. Vincent died on the 29th July 1890, from a self inflicted gunshot wound to the stomach.
Whatever3114 9 months ago
In 10 years that Vincent Willem Van Gogh painted 1880/90 until his death at Auvers sur Oise, he painted 880 paintings...his catalogue raisone states this. However, in Auvers he spent just 2 months and painted somewhere like 70/80 paintings and many drawings...which means that he could paint fast and prolifically, so... It is very possible that many early paintings have disappeared, lost, rotted, destroyed...or...found. Keep looking you never know
Whatever3114 9 months ago
Having looked at petroz.com and more detail of this painting which is very lightly painted. Van Gogh always finished off his work. This portrait does not look like Vincent Van Gogh... The face the eyes, the hat, the level of completion... It seems to be a study painting, a rough, Van Gogh only did finished pieces. He was hyper prolific! Fast painter. He could paint a landscape in 3 hours in the blazing sun. Why these certainties? No expert can be 100% certain. However, as i am an artist, my Gra
Whatever3114 9 months ago
Bloody ipad... Found a Van Gogh in the Paris flee market...they were certain it was real. It even looked real, old linen, style oriinal view, the chassis (stretcher) was properly aged, and they had huge difficulty in getting the expertx to accept it. Also, in Van Gogh's letters over 800 letters where he just about mentions all his work his feelings and his needs for art materials etc there was no mention...at the Van Gogj Museum it will be most certainly refused, because the Van Gogj decendant
Whatever3114 9 months ago
There was a similar story about 8 years ago a group of 3 french amateur art collectors 'found' a Van Gogj
Whatever3114 9 months ago
I'm definitely glad I came along your video, thanks!
postercheckout 11 months ago
It is not van Gogh. It is Heinricht Luuten, a minor painter, born in Prague, who lived and worked in Basil, and who primarily painted landscapes, with the exception of 18 self-portraits which he executed between the ages of 18 and 45. His larger landscapes generally sell in the range of $1,500-3,500 USD, his portraits in the range of $600-1,200 USD.
cosg9531 11 months ago
the reason he made this video is because he trys to make us believe that this is a real van gogh s , so he could get some value out of it.....
kondino 1 year ago
regardless of whether this is a Van Gogh or not its lovely all the same
bohemiangirl19 1 year ago
I feel this is a painting of Van Gogh, by another painter. Not contemporary, but a great find!
Hlejames 1 year ago
I'd hang on to the painting and if possible get it into the hands of some qualified persons here in the U.S. I've studied van Gogh and he could have done any style. We think he did 100's of "realistic" paintings and it's assumed today most were destroyed. But as a "realist" van Gogh didn't have it for his times. impressionism was his only chance for sales so he went that way. His earlier paintings have mostly disappeared and many were simply destroyed because they were considered to be so bad.
biggestdigger 1 year ago
i want to buy
wally52212 1 year ago
sorry, but this painting is NOT van Vincent van Gogh!
cornellart 1 year ago
good I agree with Rometschmeister that you need to take it to Amsterdam to the VanGogh museum. I am sure they get a lot of photographs of "lost Van Gogh" paintings. Be persistent until someone looks at it.
kaimalee 1 year ago
thank Why not take it to the van gogh museum in Amsterdam and have it evaluated there?
soclives182 1 year ago
@petrozfineart yerright u wish...
xXSTONERXx2010 1 year ago
Vincent Van goth uses bright colours if you look at this picture compared with other self portraits you would no this is fake
WelliesOfWellington 1 year ago
hey everyone!
i just uploaded a video of an oil painting that took me 5 months to finish.
i would like to get some feedback on it. so if everyone that reads this could check it out and let me know what you think it would help me out! the video is called -- monumental oil painting- from start to finish. thanks everyone!
N8wood1 1 year ago
I'm an art history student. This is not a van Gogh. Let the master rest in peace and go get a job.
badshans 1 year ago
this is a joke aye !!! how did he get into swiss bank and whys he on utbe absolute piss he would be national if he had a painting like that the world would know wot an a******e DONT GIVE HIM UR MUNI IF U GO ONTO HIS WEBSITE HE IS DEF A CON MAN ARSEHOLE !!!!!
coleen42 1 year ago
this painting as it is shown there- is in poor conditions- the light has to be diffirent and the person should just talk not show himself, that i can see what a painting it actually is. hang it on the wall, put a good light on it. her it is most of the time in shadow.
Vincent had a preiod of Arles, in that time he painted more nature. hits pianting may be by that period- but one s gotta see it...as it is presented here- you may not claim anything.
paganviodio 1 year ago
I would get that authenticated, I wouldn't be certain that it is his but even if it isn't and still proves to be a 19th century 20th century painting, could still be worth something good.
anikinippon 1 year ago
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blackdog128 2 years ago
holland wooowt!
mathijs1995U 2 years ago
PLZ ADD ME
MrUtubemaster123 2 years ago
Fake or not, still worth keeping.
zoldessandor 2 years ago 2
van cutted his ears o.o
Iceloverz 3 years ago
It looks a lot like that "Manet" you found.
crackedgnome 3 years ago
Or even more like Paul Gauguin
fromheretoglory 3 years ago
It looks more like Paul Cezanne
fromheretoglory 3 years ago
Its not a van Gogh..............noway
pentogram23 3 years ago
It doesn't look like his style. It seems too subdued, without the impasto brushwork. It looks too institutional. You can tell a van Gogh immediately. Sorry. Why hasn't he submitted it to Christie's or Sotheby's? They'd surely have it appraised if it was a suspected van Gogh.
myview28 3 years ago
look at his early work
mymustang65 3 years ago
grazie per il video!
ANTICHITASCIPPA 3 years ago
that could be any one srry
TONIO1O 3 years ago
if u study van gogh's painting style. u will know that this art work does not belong to his. good try anyway
shlsyk 4 years ago 3
Dear shlsyk thank you for your comment but it is a little short could you develop your argumentation.
jules
petrozfineart 4 years ago
If you will kindly remit $25,000 (US), I will do my best to determine whether this painting is a real Van Gogh.
konzwambii 4 years ago
Definately not a Van Gogh, All paintings he did from that period in time, Vincent was still learning. The reason he was in Paris was to hopefully meet the NEW Impressionists he has heard much about and also he was there to meet painters who would tell him if he was good. He never sold a painting and he only gave one away! The story of the cabaret is false.
medavog 4 years ago
FALSE, BECAUSE ....... Vince had his brother who already was established as an Art Dealer and would have never had his brother show his work at a cabaret, especially with Lautrec in the center of it all, Lautrec painted Vincent but that was it! even Lautrec never exhibited at a CABARET!
medavog 4 years ago
Cabaret....... Theo would have never allowed for such a place to have kept his brothers work, he was in love with Vincent art, even though he could not make him a single sale. This painting is of a fine art painter...
medavog 4 years ago
The title picture looks like you have swallowed the painting !
Cheers.
from,
del-boy.
W1window 4 years ago
fake or not, still worth keeping.
beeb1421 4 years ago
It resembles Van Gogh, but surely there is no way to tell without an extensive study of the piece by experts. At the time Van Gogh lived, a lot of painters used that kind of canvas, Van Gogh didn't often stretch his own, it could have easily been purchased.
gagli010 4 years ago
I give £1.99
it's signed "wood woodpecker"
vonhatenfeld 4 years ago
Oh another Gachet fake ! Mais cela ressemble plus à un portrait de Gauguin qu'à Van Gogh ! Keep it in the safe.
gachetdoc 4 years ago
How much do you want for it harry?
homegrownpa 4 years ago
Big deal! I found a signed copy of Rabbit by Chas n Dave down our car boot. Beat that!
harryshand 4 years ago
It's just a painting (maybe from the XIX century) of a moustached man with a hat...Neither the style nor the colors (not even the man portrayed) resembles van Gogh. A hoax, no doubt.
iondanu 4 years ago 2
Come to Scotland, show me this painting. If it is original I will make you rich beyond the dreams of averis.
KJS72 4 years ago
i'll buy it i'm gonna give you £5
ioplk90 4 years ago
it is probably worth $10... and if it actually was real, one hundred thousand at most... not one hundred million. there are only 6 paintings that have EVER sold for over $100 million
rjt123456 4 years ago
Van gogh was one of them if he gets 2-300 000 $ for it if it is real
but I doubt it
aviomaster 4 years ago
I agree with Rometschmeister that you need to take it to Amsterdam to the VanGogh museum. I am sure they get a lot of photographs of "lost Van Gogh" paintings. Be persistent until someone looks at it.
inkrambles 4 years ago
..why in the hell is he touching the painting with his fingers?????
...the oils on his fingers will darken the paint and ruin it; if it really is a vah gogh...this guy don't know anything about art.
actiondirector 4 years ago
yes, I will try to do some forensic research on this painting. joseph
fotojb 4 years ago
Mr. Petroz, please goto vangoghfoto.c You can see exactly how Vincent looked.
Good luck, Joseph
fotojb 4 years ago
Nice!!!!!:-)
OrestPintor 4 years ago
I think you should not touch it when you are pointing to its attributes. Vincent wrote to his brother about the paintings he was working on and described them. I also think you should take it to Amsterdam.
rometschmeister 5 years ago
i think he really is in hes basement
XAVIERCUERVO 5 years ago
Van Gogh is my favorite artist. What a priceless find you have there provided it is an original of course. I wish you the best of luck.
lizardgirl4 5 years ago
Thank you lizardgirl for your comfort, i hope some day you can see it for real. If you come to Geneva, I would be glade to show it to you and your friends, because it is a little gem.
petrozfineart 5 years ago
Why not take it to the van gogh museum in Amsterdam and have it evaluated there?
lizardgirl4 5 years ago
I did send a picture to the Vincent van Gogh museum in Amsterdam, to Mr Louis van Tilborgh who after examining the photograph answered "that this work cannot be attributed to Vincent van Gogh"!!!
He did not explain why nor wanted to see the painting.
thanks for your mail
petrozfineart 5 years ago
@petrozfineart This is a problem so it might pay you to pay for it to be expertised privately? I have to be honest - it does not seem to be him or a painting by him as we see it here. It might be better to do some great close-up clearer pics? The Van Gogh Museum have to check so many they just don't have time to explain why they say no, although I still think they should. Appeal with extra evidence and they may look at it again though. x
Samua3 1 year ago
Believe me...this is NOT from Vincent
cornellart 1 year ago
It couldn't be a copy because there is no other version of this portrait and if it was a fake it would be recorded in Delafaille's inventory book of fakes.
I just started to show it and the interest is already great, my goal is to find a way to exhibit the portrait in a world tour.
I recently showed it to Mr Yves Calmejane who was writing a book about self portraits "Histoire de moi ou histoire des autoportraits" Thalia Editions December 2006.
petrozfineart 5 years ago
So did you find out if it was the real thing or just a copy? I'm a Van Gogh fan and this caught my attention a lot. Please let me know about the results.
chikapicante 5 years ago
Pages 224-225
A fortieth self portrait ?
There are many things left to discover about one of the most famous painters in the world.
A young art lover, Jules Petroz, has recently discovered in a flea market a portrait which could be dated from the Parisian period of Van Gogh. If it was a self-portrait, it would be the fortieth. The small painting has character; dark coloured and the gaunt face could correspond to the artist's look when arrived in Paris, he was sheltered by his brother Theo.
petrozfineart 5 years ago
He arrived broke from Anvers and physically diminished. Very little is known from this period, most of what we know being based on the brothers's reciprocal letters.
After quarrelling with girlfriend Agostina Segatori, (the 'Tambourine' holder, a cabaret in Montmartre where Vincent had hanged most of his latest works), he came back to collect his works; alas! The cabaret had shut down, the lady gone and the paintings sold for a few francs to a junk dealer...
petrozfineart 5 years ago
How much would this be worth?
michael007gg 5 years ago