Breathtaking, perfect, noble, lowly, delicious, sublime, moreover He was (unfortunately He was :( short time) talented!! And yes, He was very special and unique. In addition, He had a pure eradiation. He looked like an angel or prince..What a strapping figure..
I just finished reading a old book called valentino, then found this video. What a era. I love old movie history and this is my favorite from the 20s. He was something else.
@sylicone221 Yes, a few people did. There was also a rumor floating around that he had faked his death and that the body in the casket was a wax figure. That was a wild time.
he was a an advanced soul--believed in the immortality of the soul--really a mystic--few know this...most just know he was a handsome movie star. V. was also a fun, caring person with enormous charisma, of course.
The fact is there is as much evidence that Valentino was gay or bi as any evidence. The fact is anyone who knows is DEAD and what does it really matter? Why can't people focus on what they (Valentino, Rambova etc) accomplished in their lifetime ?- I have heard of faghags but I think we need a new name in our culture...corpsehag
I first saw him in 70's in a silent movie programme and i was clearly awaken of what cinema dit at the best in 20's. He will be my favourite timeless actor until i live
Ohhhh.........noone ever like him ever. My heart just goes wild. When Rudy kisses a woman, he envelops her first, then completely finishes the kiss(es.)
I dream of being kissed by him like that. He is just beautiful...
Rudolph is gorgeous.His smile is soo adorable, you cannot help but smile back. What a Beautiful man . I would have really loved if he had lived a full life ,we would have had many more of his brilliant work and many more gorgeous pictures of him to admire.He is definently the most handsome man i ever saw. He should be celebrated more.He was a major influence to many actors after him . Ahh I think i'm in love .
I truly think Rudy's life would make a fabulous opera. I don't mean anything tongue in cheek either. Something as fine as Carmen or Tosca, but telling his story. The next great Italian opera.
@sacred23ify He was not gay--where did you get this information, and is it based on facts? Gay men at the time were attracted to him (and still are), but there is no evidence he was gay. Gay men sent him underwear which they requested he wear, leave a deposit, and return to them. This really pissed him off. His underclothes were routinely stolen from his dressing room, so they posted guards. It's sort of like Justin Bieber today--whenever a male attracts females, other men claim he's gay.
@ccipollini1984 I've also read that after he became famous, it wasn't just his underwear that was stolen, but other personal items (jewelry, grooming things) in his dressing room when he was on set. People that worked at the studio were some of the culprits because anything belonging to him was a hot item. It would really be annoying not to be able to have any personal things without people trying to steal them. He really didn't enjoy his fame because of all the baggage that came with it.
@ccipollini1984 I think nowadays if someone sent a celebrity an intimate item with a request to return it with bodily fluids, they might find themselves in trouble with the post office. I haven't heard about celebrities today having to guard against studio employees stealing their underwear, jewelry, hairbrushes, etc. I don't think that anyone today drives the sort of large-scale mass obsession that Valentino did. There are current celebrities that have obsessive fans, but not as many as RV.
@ccipollini1984 Yeah, I noticed, too late, that it was on today. I really ought to check TCM's listings the day before. So, how was it? I've read other reviews stating that Dexter doesn't look much like RV and that the film overall fell short of doing him justice. What's your opinion?
I have a whole vid coming up explaining it, but no being the patient type, I'll tell you. It was a goo d film as far as asthetics go. His look is more like Rudy then any actor I have ever seen on screen and certianly more then that 1977 travesty. As far as telling Rudy's story though, it was a disapointment. I hate Natacha, but she was a big part of his life and they completley axed her from the story. They invented some chick named "Joan Carlile" . WTF. I'd give it a C...
@ccipollini1984 Natacha died in1969, and prior to her death, her lawyers threatened anyone announcing plans to make a film of his life, which is why her part of the RV story is left out. She vacillated between extreme shame and defiance of her treatment of him. I think Jason Lee (Memphis Beat) bears a resemblance to RV. I agree with Michael Medved's comment that RV's true story is better than many fiction stories out there, and hope someday someone will do a film about him that does justice.
@ccipollini1984 You might want to add a footnote or edit this, because I think this fact is very important to know. Unless you research RV or read Ullman's or other books, you'd never know: 1) how she manipulated him to boost her career; or 2) many more films he could have made when he was "on strike"--no one knew it at the time, but he didn't have long to live and he was at the height of his career and wanted to do several major films that were never made. He had his choice of scripts.
Oh yes. There are numerous tales of how she hindered him from several film projects because they did not suit her wants or how she wanted him seen. Such is the case with the "Hooded Falcon", which I feel would have been a great film. He thought well ahead of his time and should have been allowed to spead his wings abit more. I get so irate when people have the nerve to say "Natacha MADE his career". What a load.
@ccipollini1984 RV grew his beard in preparation for this role, and when he stepped off the ship returning from Europe, a large group of women were there and swooned over how he looked in a beard. The American Master Barber's Assn. threatened to boycott Paramount films unless he shaved. They cancelled the film anyway. Even a fake beard would have influenced mens' fashion. This was the power of film and his influence at the time. He named his home after this film that was never made.
@ccipollini1984 If any woman "made" his career, it was June Mathis, not Natacha. June recognized the special something that she saw when he was doing smaller roles and convinced the studio to give him the part of Julio in the Four Horsemen. He was so good, they stopped production to re-write the script to give his character a bigger role.
These are the true facts. The "press" of Rudy's time hated him and made all kinds of insults against him, the most vicious being the "pink powder puff" remark made by that rotten Chicago reporter. This hurt Rudy to the core, right to the very end. The men were so jealous of him it is just a crime.
I feel so bad for him. So sad. I love him, adore him; noone ever - ever - like him.
No wonder Rudy was such a legend. Noone matches him since then; he is unique. There was always a sadness about him, you could see it in his face. I feel so bad he died at such a young age. They let him lie in that NY hospital until it was too late for proper treatment.
Wow! He just envelops a girl when he kisses her. Just love that look of his...what a forever legend.
Rudolph Valentino's father's family were Russian Gypsy Circus entertainers.. Rudolph did try the high wire when he was younger. Much of what is known about Rudolph was fabricated by the studios. That is why, when he returned to his 'home town' in Italy, no one knew who him or his family.
His father was a former cavalry officer and his mother a french dame, all the papers of his family are in the Castellaneta town archive, it's impossible build legend on Valentino.
@Miauriceful Since I've never been to Castellaneta, I don't know what's in this "archive". The Guglielmi family moved to Taranto when Rudy was 6 because his father, a veterinarian, was involved in an animal research project seeking a cure for cattle malaria, which he contracted, and from which he died when Rudy was 11. He really grew up in Taranto. His father was not a performer, but treated circus animals as a veterinarian.
Really wrong, Rudy's father was a Cavalry Officer. Guglielmi family was a well know family from Martina Franca (Taranto) with some aristocratic ancestry.
His mother was french and was the maid of honour of the local Marquise. The complete name of Rudy was "Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Pierre Filibert Guglielmi di Valentina D'Antonguella". His father was Givanni Guglelmi and his mother Marie Gabrielle Bardin.
@Miauriceful I don't disagree. The di Valentina was a papal title bestowed on one of his ancestors by the pope at the time. The d'Antonguella designation is a left-over from the days before Italy was united by the Lateran Treaty of 1860. While all other feudal rights were taken away, those entitled to use the title could still do so. This was his aristocratic ancestry. Wasn't his mother's last name Barbin?
@Miauriceful a woman lyke natasha hell no pardon if i say NO NO and NO he should've just stayed with his first lady,anyays i've read that nr was effed up to him and made him look bad infront of his friends(wat a pain in the behind 4 rudy)I still can't believe he loved her poor kidd
@Kathylouu From what I've read, he was sad because: 1) he disappointed his mother, who was widowed when he was 11. He didn't apply himself in school and got in a lot of trouble, so on the advice of his uncles, she scraped together the money to send him to America. When he told her he was acting in films, she said this was not an honorable way to earn a living. She died right before he hit it big; 2) Many people used him, including Natacha, who cheated on him and aborted 3 babies.
@msrudyfan Yes, to all the above....he was a melancoly person who hid this with a jolly sense of humor (loved to make spagetti, work on cars). This is lovely music by the way---which movie?
I don´t know about you but indeed look at that face!, I mean It´s incredible how actors from the past are not similar from current actors. Valentino has a face of silent movies and there is some mystery in it.
On the contrary, Kim Novak was very underated! She was beautiful, mysteryous, vulnerable, cool, ladylike, sexy. She was a good actress too. Her plantinum hair and dark eyebrows are glamorous. Jean Harlow and Kim remind me of each other, meaning their blonde look. And I have always thought Valentino was so handsome and sexy.
@jig9578 Everyone has their opinion. If all KN ever did was "Vertigo", I would agree with you. She is all those things in this role, which becoming Madelyn required. In other roles, she loses her mystique and her bleached hair, which leaves less of an impression of her as an actress. I admit having a bias about bleached hair. I think some of the most beautiful women are not bleached, such as Elizabeth Taylor, Heddy Lamarr, Vivien Leigh, Gene Tierney, Halle Berry and Angelina Jolie.
In fact...the role of a man rescuing a woman is still the norm. If you pay close attention to our films these days...most of them havnt changed much, since Rudolf Valentino. He started all that. thats what an absolute hunk of total manhood he is. :D
Did you gouys know that WOMEN dominated holywood before Rudolf Valentino. Its a completely bygone era. They were many of them lesbian..not all of course...but you will notice in many of the old studio photographs...men are in a subservient position to women. Even Rudolf was photographed this way...as if he were worshipping them..or under their power. Rudolf changed all that.. His name began to be listed first.
@binkydonna I have a slightly different take on your observation. In RV's case, the studios simply refused to believe that he was talented. "The Four Horsemen" changed that. Next, they refused to believe he could maintain such popularity. He proved them wrong. I personally think the studio bosses and directors, who were male, were threatened by womens' reaction to him. One thing I read said that RV should be thrilled to be making out with Gloria Swanson, so they shouldn't pay him as much.
@msrudyfan But u see...he shud have been THILLED to be making out with Gloria Swanson. Women really dominated the scene back then. I think we BOTH have good points. Ill see if I can find a really good page about him I found some years ago......some cool old studio photographs as well.
@binkydonna He eventually became friends with GS, but there was tension at the time of filming "Beyond the Rocks" because she came on to him and he turned her down. At that time, NO ONE turned down GS--well, RV did, saying he was in love with NR and wasn't interested. The pay disparity was unfair--he made a few hundred a week, she made multiple thousands a week, and he was the big draw for the film. I'd be pissed off, too.
@msrudyfan That is very interesting. I thought Gloria and Rudy were friends before BTR, as she claims in her bio. What is your source for this incident of her coming on to Rudy, as I'd like to learn more. Thanks.
I just saw the movie Valentino and the actor they got to play him did this man no justice as far as looks go. Their is no comparison, now I know their is no comparison anyway because we are talking about one of the most beautiful beings to ever exist but they at least could have tried to hit the nail on the head instead of completely missing.
@TheGreatZurEnRaah no shit. I commented on the same guy before. He looks more like George Hamilton than Valentino. That's like getting Whoopi Goldberg to portray Halle Berry
Except for that fuc#ing double arrow icon for the Google ad at the bottom of the frame everything was perfect. Lovely video. Some pics I've never seen before. (i hate advertisers and the people who take their money and invade every free space to promote a product - HATE them). Sorry for the rant but I thought the arrows distracted from an otherwise beautiful video.
He was such a beautiful man, but also a beautiful soul. Whenever I hear him sing or see his film, despite his "stardom" I still still a vulnerable young man, lost in the world. The world was not ready for him. I just want to hold him close and let nothing harm him.
That's my romantic meandering...;)
FYI-NEVER see the 1977 film Valentino. His life was NEVER that manic and the rough looking Rudolph Neryouv is not who I think when i think rudy. Nobody- in ANY time- can capture him.
@ccipollini1984 Very well said. :-) That '77 film is AWFUL!! It doesn't do Rudy any justice. RN was an outstanding ballet dancer, but his tango scenes fell way short of Rudy's tango dancing. And you're absolutely right, he couldn't capture the essence of RV. As handsome as RN was, he couldn't hold a candle to RV.
I have no issue with people being gay, as i myself am gay, but I doubt Rudy was. mabye he screwed around to do a little social climbing, But I don't belive he was gay
@nineviah thanks for the info. I always thought it was Rudy himself and the other two were his parents. I never payed attention to the guy to the left of him otherwise i would have known it was Rudolph.
@msrudyfan While I find Vertigo overrated, Obsession is a desperate attempt to emanate Hitch. Maybe it is underrated. The film runs into its most severe problem concering incest.
@marekerhardt My point was that I think that the music for "Obsession" is much better than the film, unlike "Vertigo"--the film and score are both good, in my opinion. Maybe I like it more than you because of the nostalgic autos, hair and clothes, Jimmy Stewart and views of fabulous San Francisco all of which appeal to me. I think that Kim Novak is overrated.
@msrudyfan Miss Novak looks artificial as a blonde compared to the overrate Grace Kelly and underrated "Tippi" Hedren. You opinion does have much merit. The surreal elements in Vertigo are better executed. It looks more expensive and professional despite its greater age. Matte paintings in old movies offer surreal feelings.
@marekerhardt I don't think Novak is anywhere near as talented as the other two. I agree that the platinum blonde hair looks artificial, especially with black eyebrows, but then all fake blonde hair looks bad, in my opinion. Adult women simply do not naturally have white or pastel yellow hair and it usually clashes with their skin tones. Black roots really look bad. "Vertigo" is excellent for many reasons, but most of all, Jimmy Stewart and his passion for and obsession with Madelyn.
Such a beautiful man, and also a beautiful human being. He came off as tough, manly and refined. He was actually sensitive, vulnerable and horribly eager to please. The woman he was with were shrews and harpies and took advantage of what a genuine person he was. Whenever I see footage of him, I just wish I had been around in those times and held him near me so the world would not be as cold to him as it was.
There is something about Valentino that baffles me. His eyes. So small and mystical. Like some ancient being from another time entirley. His look, the structure of his face. A living breathing work of art so divine and beautiful that he eclipsed all male stars or his time and any future time well before his passing. Johnny Depp, Brtad Pitt, George Clooney, Errol Flynn, Clint Eastwood Robert Pattinson-grovel at the feet of the GREAT Valentino!
A mi tio abuelo,Paco Conde(q a sus 90 años reside en Barcelonay goza de gran salud aun), lo llamaban en su juventud el Rudolph Valentino de Sevilla por lo apuesto y atrayente q era.
keital10 - He shouldn't have died. It's always bad doctors. I shouldn't be nasally incapacitated, banned from limosine, moon roofs, only to have my head blown away.
From the compassionate lover - I know amber alerts. good day sirs!
Rudolph was definitely NOT gay. We shouldn't apply that accusation on people who are dead and can't defend themselves. We should stick with some of today's actors/actresses who don't care to publicly blast their sexual orientation to the world.
Rudolph was definitely NOT gay. We shouldn't apply that accusation on people who are dead and can't defend themselves. We should stick with some of today's actors/actresses who don't care to publicly blast their sexual orientation to the world.
This is one of the most beautiful and moving tributes to Valentino I have seen. The music and photos are wonderful. You obviously spent a lot of time and effort in creating this and it is a masterpiece--thank you. I have only one comment-- I think the photo of the boy with his parents is actually his nephew Jean Valentino, son of Alberto and Ada Valentino, and not Rudy. This child looks like other photos of Jean I have seen.
Why was he down on the ground crying next to the dead bull?..I hope it was because he could see the maddness of stabbing an animal to death....I am sorry to take away the hard work you did on your video but so called bullfighting is against every fiber of my being..
Valentino was misunderstood as a sensitive passionate artistic Italian who liked the finer things in life he was accused of being 'a pink powderpuff' and ended up having to 'butch himself up' taking on manly pursuits like boxing. Men put this image about because they were jealous and their women were constantly reminding them by going gaga over Rudy all the time.
Rudy is my ideal of a man he was also into spiritual issues and they say his ghost haunts Hollywood - I wouldn't be scared
Male audiences were offended by Valentino's extravagant dress, colorful spats, make-up, and willingness to display his body on screen in such films as The Sheik and Blood and Sand . Hollywood's first queer film star, Valentino disrupted his era's rigid codes of sex and gender. Valentino's sexuality remains ambiguous, but rumors of his homosexuality were rife among Hollywood gay circles, despite (or because of) his marriages to and divorces from Jean Acker and Natacha Rambova, both lesbian.
again, I respected Valentino's work. He was very attractive. I have no reason to believe he was gay. He died way too young and had alot more to offer Hollywood. However, a lot of guys who are ''pretty boys'' with feminine complexions are mistakingly misjudges as being ''gay''. Even Zac Efron has been called ''gay'' by some. I have no reason to believe he is, but unfortunately people are going to believe what they want without any proof.
@msmithstud so WHAT if Valentino was gay? In 1924, Valentino recorded an explicit account of a one night stand with another man in his journal. (Greif, Martin, The Gay Book of Days, New York: Carol Publishing Group, p. 81, ISBN 0-8184-0384-5) The tone of your post suggests that Valentino (or Zac Efron) being gay is somewhat unfortunate.
@tklogan111809 i was merely stating that ''pretty boys'' or men who are not masculine are stereotyped by many as being gay. Since gay people are gay ''not by choice'' , it would be unfair to label them as unfortunate.
@msmithstud hmmm you're double talking. Your original post made it seem "unfortunate" to label him as gay, as if being gay is a negative thing. Now you write that "it would be unfair to label them (gays) as unfortunate." You obviously playing with words to disguise the fact that you don't like very much the idea of Valentino being gay. Just admit that you're prejudiced. In case I'm correct (I might not be) I have news for you: Valentino have ADMITTED having had sex with men. That's being gay.
Why is such a big deal made about his sexuality anyways? Men liked/lusted after him, Women obviously liked him and he loved them in return. Why is it so important for certain people to make such a big deal over his sexuality. Do they themselves question their own sexuality?
I personally don't believe he was gay or even bi sexual but lots of people do think he was, so good for them, they can have their opinions all they want, this is a free country. The real problem is this: (part 2 follows)
Some tasteless, nasty individual(s) (I get to call them that because I read one of their x-rated "I really want to be gay myself but I'm in the closet and don't want my family and coworkers to know") kind of book, threw the name Rudolph Valentino in there and told in lurid detail about every pubic hair God decided to give him. I'm sure they hopped up and down in their seat when the first check came in from the publisher. (part 2 follows)
Part 3 - I've followed this one particular person and every attempt to write him and have him site references gets you one of three things
1 - Ignored
2 - Threatening emails
3- Very, very nasty name calling and/or cursing out.
So in summary a couple of closeted gay guys wrote some trashy novels back in the late 70's and the populace took it as GOLD....we walk amongst those who have no spine or brain of their own to use. Bad guy thinks he wins and the masses buy into it. :(
@thelonelyslayer i can understand people questioning his sexuality. I'm not saying he was gay or bi, but a lot of men who have a very attractive or ''pretty boy'' quality to them are stereotyped as ''gay''. If he was gay, I could understand keeping it in the closet since he would have been blacklisted in Hollywood. Nowdays when an actor or celebrity comes out , it's no big deal.
@msmithstud Well, i don't understand why it is questioned when there is no evidence to suggest a certain lifestyle. We should go by what we know Rudy did. He had wives/girlfriends. He wanted children, but naively he didn't choose the right women.
@80stimeagain personally, it's not big deal to me, but a lot of leading men in those days were apparently in the closet: Clark Gable, Marlon Brando, James Dean, Rock Hudson, Raymond Burr and so on. These rumors always tend to come about after the person dies.
@msmithstud Yes, rumors/gossip lways start with many people. I don't know as much about those actors you mentioned. I know Rock Hudson was gay of course. There are a lot of gay actors, but there is nothing i have read to make me assume Rudy was gay too. If you're not a big Valentino fan, you won't really care if Rudy was gay or not. But, after you find out more about Rudy, the whole gay discussion just gets old. To me, Rudy's sexuality is not in question.
@msmithstud none of those actors you mentioned were completely gay except Rock Hudson, the rest are mabye bisexual if not simply just not afraid to experiment
@80stimeagain I agree totally with you! I Rudy's beauty was so breathtaking that gay men secretly wished he was gay as well!!! Most likely a man started the rumor. And real Rudy fans know very well that Natascha was the love of his life!
@80stimeagain I don't know either, but from what I've read, he locked eyes with her and was mesmerized. He handed over his career to her--things like the faun photos and Monsieur Beaucaire were her idea and hurt his image. I recently read that Nita Naldi is the one who spread the story about Natacha's 3 abortions, and there is conflicting information as to whether he knew about this. No one ever really understands why someone loves someone else. They were a mismatch and it couldn't last.
@msrudyfan I don't understand why Rudy wanted Natacha so much. Rudy wanted a family some day, and Natacha never wanted kids. Rudy felt he had no control over his life while he was with Natacha. Life was moving too fast for him. Yes, there were rumors about Natacha having abortions and her cheating. We don't know if these are true. I can't remember how long they knew each other, but maybe Natacha was Rudy's longest romantic experience.
@80stimeagain I think Rudy was a typical Italian man with a strong sense of family. Natasha wanted a career and good for her! I don't really think she was a bitch but just very strong minded - probably one of the reasons Rudy loved her. What a pity they couldn't be together such a beautiful couple aesthetically and spiritually in tune but on a practical biological level it couldn't work.
@Lovingsundays I agree with much of what you say. I have to say, though, I'm convinced NR was very much a bitch. During their time together, she strongly influenced him and controlled his career to the point where she almost destroyed it. She sought creative control over almost every aspect of his films, not out of misguided efforts to help him, but for her own selfish motives. Through Rudy she sought to have the career she desparately craved. She used him as a means to an end.
@Lovingsundays Pt. 2 When Rudy realized the truth, he saved his career from ruin by negotiating a contract that barred her from having anything to do with his films. When NR learned this, she immediately left him and filed for divorce. Rudy was devastated, but NR didn't care she had broken his heart. Rudy's love for her clearly wasn't enough. Her career was all that mattered to her, even if she destroyed someone to have it. As far as I'm concerned she was quite a nasty woman.
+ Enigmatico - Magnetico
(more enigmatic than magnetic ... this is the real source of his charm)
yallowrosa 3 days ago
Was Valentino gay??
piposk1 2 weeks ago
Breathtaking, perfect, noble, lowly, delicious, sublime, moreover He was (unfortunately He was :( short time) talented!! And yes, He was very special and unique. In addition, He had a pure eradiation. He looked like an angel or prince..What a strapping figure..
Why are not more like Him??
Angelic beautiful, noble man..♥♥♥♥♥
Zsad15 1 month ago
A truly wonderful video so beautifully done. Valentino was very special and this is a great tribute thank you for uploading the video-slides.
jonflynn1 1 month ago
number one fan ?: Charles montgomery burns!
lilbeigehood 2 months ago
Its a certain mistique about him. He dress the part perfectly
Its more to him then the words alone would tell. He has a story behind his figure/character
And that's because he honestly knew what was giving (offering), because that what was he offering, was from knowing to what is offering sincerely
Thats my opinion to why in his every role (part) he looks different and with alot of hidden meaning (mistique)
meroawrr 2 months ago
Nicely put together video.
aitch3 2 months ago
I just finished reading a old book called valentino, then found this video. What a era. I love old movie history and this is my favorite from the 20s. He was something else.
johnnyo1421 3 months ago
bellissimo
iomariacri 3 months ago
is it true a lot of girls killed themselves cuz of his death?
sylicone221 3 months ago
@sylicone221 Yes, a few people did. There was also a rumor floating around that he had faked his death and that the body in the casket was a wax figure. That was a wild time.
xander7ful 1 month ago
he was a an advanced soul--believed in the immortality of the soul--really a mystic--few know this...most just know he was a handsome movie star. V. was also a fun, caring person with enormous charisma, of course.
windstorm1000 3 months ago
@windstorm1000 The piece is "Valse Lente" from the film "Obsession", and was written by Bernard Herrmann. The music is better than the film
msrudyfan 3 months ago
The fact is there is as much evidence that Valentino was gay or bi as any evidence. The fact is anyone who knows is DEAD and what does it really matter? Why can't people focus on what they (Valentino, Rambova etc) accomplished in their lifetime ?- I have heard of faghags but I think we need a new name in our culture...corpsehag
WGBudd801 3 months ago
I first saw him in 70's in a silent movie programme and i was clearly awaken of what cinema dit at the best in 20's. He will be my favourite timeless actor until i live
NathLorda 3 months ago
after 100yrs,he still can attract lady,what a guy he is? who can do that?
can tom cruise or brad pitt can do that? i dont think so...
singularku 3 months ago
nadie me creeria que este tipo es mi tio bisabuelo
argentinooo723 4 months ago
A twenties 'chic' cool dude whose early death was in part due to a bad woman and the jealousy of potato heads.
MikeMuk1 4 months ago
he is so hot, i would have paid all the money i could ever have made in my life to have a single touch of his lips with mine
noseqladilla 4 months ago 2
lindoooooooooo
tubeyoujim 4 months ago
grande musicaaaaaaa
flamenco69100 5 months ago
Ohhhh.........noone ever like him ever. My heart just goes wild. When Rudy kisses a woman, he envelops her first, then completely finishes the kiss(es.)
I dream of being kissed by him like that. He is just beautiful...
dovecast1 5 months ago
@dovecast1 I read Luka Magnotta is Rudolph Valentino's cousin.
PINKSUNSET66 4 months ago
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Rudolph is gorgeous.His smile is soo adorable, you cannot help but smile back. What a Beautiful man . I would have really loved if he had lived a full life ,we would have had many more of his brilliant work and many more gorgeous pictures of him to admire.He is definently the most handsome man i ever saw. He should be celebrated more.He was a major influence to many actors after him . Ahh I think i'm in love .
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DameHollywood 5 months ago
No one could hold a candle to the most handsome man ever Errol Flynn!!
greg4161 6 months ago
I truly think Rudy's life would make a fabulous opera. I don't mean anything tongue in cheek either. Something as fine as Carmen or Tosca, but telling his story. The next great Italian opera.
ccipollini1984 6 months ago
Thumbs up if Sophie Kinsella's Twenties Girl novel brought you here..
abigailrussel 6 months ago
gary cooper in the 20's was better looking, don't u think?
xltoday 6 months ago
grande video, bellissima musica, unico vero divo
flamenco69100 6 months ago
exquisito comecoños
joanignasice 7 months ago
rudolph valentino is very handsome. but in inside.. he's a gay.. ouch.
sacred23ify 7 months ago
@sacred23ify He was not gay--where did you get this information, and is it based on facts? Gay men at the time were attracted to him (and still are), but there is no evidence he was gay. Gay men sent him underwear which they requested he wear, leave a deposit, and return to them. This really pissed him off. His underclothes were routinely stolen from his dressing room, so they posted guards. It's sort of like Justin Bieber today--whenever a male attracts females, other men claim he's gay.
msrudyfan 7 months ago 2
@msrudyfan
The underware thing. That's disgusting. I'd be pissy too.
ccipollini1984 7 months ago
@ccipollini1984 I've also read that after he became famous, it wasn't just his underwear that was stolen, but other personal items (jewelry, grooming things) in his dressing room when he was on set. People that worked at the studio were some of the culprits because anything belonging to him was a hot item. It would really be annoying not to be able to have any personal things without people trying to steal them. He really didn't enjoy his fame because of all the baggage that came with it.
msrudyfan 7 months ago
@msrudyfan
The celeb obsession was just as intense then as it is now. The only differance is that now, it's more well documented.
ccipollini1984 7 months ago
@ccipollini1984 I think nowadays if someone sent a celebrity an intimate item with a request to return it with bodily fluids, they might find themselves in trouble with the post office. I haven't heard about celebrities today having to guard against studio employees stealing their underwear, jewelry, hairbrushes, etc. I don't think that anyone today drives the sort of large-scale mass obsession that Valentino did. There are current celebrities that have obsessive fans, but not as many as RV.
msrudyfan 7 months ago
@msrudyfan
I just watched Valentino, with Anthony Dexter. I'm doing a film reiew and putting it on my channel. It just has to load..
ccipollini1984 7 months ago
@ccipollini1984 Yeah, I noticed, too late, that it was on today. I really ought to check TCM's listings the day before. So, how was it? I've read other reviews stating that Dexter doesn't look much like RV and that the film overall fell short of doing him justice. What's your opinion?
msrudyfan 7 months ago
@msrudyfan
I have a whole vid coming up explaining it, but no being the patient type, I'll tell you. It was a goo d film as far as asthetics go. His look is more like Rudy then any actor I have ever seen on screen and certianly more then that 1977 travesty. As far as telling Rudy's story though, it was a disapointment. I hate Natacha, but she was a big part of his life and they completley axed her from the story. They invented some chick named "Joan Carlile" . WTF. I'd give it a C...
ccipollini1984 7 months ago
@ccipollini1984 Natacha died in1969, and prior to her death, her lawyers threatened anyone announcing plans to make a film of his life, which is why her part of the RV story is left out. She vacillated between extreme shame and defiance of her treatment of him. I think Jason Lee (Memphis Beat) bears a resemblance to RV. I agree with Michael Medved's comment that RV's true story is better than many fiction stories out there, and hope someday someone will do a film about him that does justice.
msrudyfan 7 months ago
@msrudyfan
Oh you're right! I forgot completley that NAST-acha was still alive when they made this. Damn, I put that in my video. Oh well...
ccipollini1984 7 months ago
@ccipollini1984 You might want to add a footnote or edit this, because I think this fact is very important to know. Unless you research RV or read Ullman's or other books, you'd never know: 1) how she manipulated him to boost her career; or 2) many more films he could have made when he was "on strike"--no one knew it at the time, but he didn't have long to live and he was at the height of his career and wanted to do several major films that were never made. He had his choice of scripts.
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Oh yes. There are numerous tales of how she hindered him from several film projects because they did not suit her wants or how she wanted him seen. Such is the case with the "Hooded Falcon", which I feel would have been a great film. He thought well ahead of his time and should have been allowed to spead his wings abit more. I get so irate when people have the nerve to say "Natacha MADE his career". What a load.
ccipollini1984 7 months ago
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@ccipollini1984 RV grew his beard in preparation for this role, and when he stepped off the ship returning from Europe, a large group of women were there and swooned over how he looked in a beard. The American Master Barber's Assn. threatened to boycott Paramount films unless he shaved. They cancelled the film anyway. Even a fake beard would have influenced mens' fashion. This was the power of film and his influence at the time. He named his home after this film that was never made.
msrudyfan 7 months ago
@ccipollini1984 If any woman "made" his career, it was June Mathis, not Natacha. June recognized the special something that she saw when he was doing smaller roles and convinced the studio to give him the part of Julio in the Four Horsemen. He was so good, they stopped production to re-write the script to give his character a bigger role.
msrudyfan 7 months ago
@msrudyfan
These are the true facts. The "press" of Rudy's time hated him and made all kinds of insults against him, the most vicious being the "pink powder puff" remark made by that rotten Chicago reporter. This hurt Rudy to the core, right to the very end. The men were so jealous of him it is just a crime.
I feel so bad for him. So sad. I love him, adore him; noone ever - ever - like him.
dovecast1 4 months ago
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you need to do some research. he was not now nor was he ever gay.
ccipollini1984 7 months ago
@sacred23ify no lol he wasn't. he was a ladies man..
thelovelymurder 7 months ago 2
Yes, he is unique...and he was natural at being unique; he wasn't made up or fake in any way. Where are the men like this today, might I ask?
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dovecast1 8 months ago
No wonder Rudy was such a legend. Noone matches him since then; he is unique. There was always a sadness about him, you could see it in his face. I feel so bad he died at such a young age. They let him lie in that NY hospital until it was too late for proper treatment.
Wow! He just envelops a girl when he kisses her. Just love that look of his...what a forever legend.
dovecast1 8 months ago
Rudolph Valentino's father's family were Russian Gypsy Circus entertainers.. Rudolph did try the high wire when he was younger. Much of what is known about Rudolph was fabricated by the studios. That is why, when he returned to his 'home town' in Italy, no one knew who him or his family.
ibbiwho 8 months ago
@ibbiwho
His father was a former cavalry officer and his mother a french dame, all the papers of his family are in the Castellaneta town archive, it's impossible build legend on Valentino.
Miauriceful 8 months ago
@Miauriceful Since I've never been to Castellaneta, I don't know what's in this "archive". The Guglielmi family moved to Taranto when Rudy was 6 because his father, a veterinarian, was involved in an animal research project seeking a cure for cattle malaria, which he contracted, and from which he died when Rudy was 11. He really grew up in Taranto. His father was not a performer, but treated circus animals as a veterinarian.
msrudyfan 1 month ago
@msrudyfan
you really should write book on Rudy. Your knowledge of him rivals any book that's out.
ccipollini1984 1 month ago
@msrudyfan
Really wrong, Rudy's father was a Cavalry Officer. Guglielmi family was a well know family from Martina Franca (Taranto) with some aristocratic ancestry.
His mother was french and was the maid of honour of the local Marquise. The complete name of Rudy was "Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Pierre Filibert Guglielmi di Valentina D'Antonguella". His father was Givanni Guglelmi and his mother Marie Gabrielle Bardin.
Miauriceful 1 month ago
@Miauriceful I don't disagree. The di Valentina was a papal title bestowed on one of his ancestors by the pope at the time. The d'Antonguella designation is a left-over from the days before Italy was united by the Lateran Treaty of 1860. While all other feudal rights were taken away, those entitled to use the title could still do so. This was his aristocratic ancestry. Wasn't his mother's last name Barbin?
msrudyfan 1 month ago
@msrudyfan
No, it was Bardin.
Miauriceful 1 month ago
There was something very sad about him. I'm a big Rudie fan. Wonder if anyone ever knew what it was.
Kathylouu 9 months ago
@Kathylouu
He was just a little short-sighted, this prevented him from entering the Naval Academy.
No joke, he was a nice guy, very lovely, he had no problems. Only he needs to have a strong woman by his side, a woman like Natascha Rambova.
Miauriceful 8 months ago
@Miauriceful a woman lyke natasha hell no pardon if i say NO NO and NO he should've just stayed with his first lady,anyays i've read that nr was effed up to him and made him look bad infront of his friends(wat a pain in the behind 4 rudy)I still can't believe he loved her poor kidd
LUCKYSONNY3 6 months ago
@Kathylouu From what I've read, he was sad because: 1) he disappointed his mother, who was widowed when he was 11. He didn't apply himself in school and got in a lot of trouble, so on the advice of his uncles, she scraped together the money to send him to America. When he told her he was acting in films, she said this was not an honorable way to earn a living. She died right before he hit it big; 2) Many people used him, including Natacha, who cheated on him and aborted 3 babies.
msrudyfan 4 months ago
@msrudyfan Yes, to all the above....he was a melancoly person who hid this with a jolly sense of humor (loved to make spagetti, work on cars). This is lovely music by the way---which movie?
windstorm1000 3 months ago
@Kathylouu You picked up on that too. Lots of reasons--his mother's death hit him hard certainly--maybe not finding the right soul mate was another.
windstorm1000 3 months ago
Happy Birthday Rudy!
ccipollini1984 9 months ago
This just too beautiful....I never get tired of it.
starrynightz 9 months ago
i might sound strange but he was very cute!!
i mean look at pic 1:37!! so so handsome!!!
cenalover386 9 months ago
I don´t know about you but indeed look at that face!, I mean It´s incredible how actors from the past are not similar from current actors. Valentino has a face of silent movies and there is some mystery in it.
MANUELFARINELLI 10 months ago 3
He was gorgeous!
magyarwho 10 months ago
What an utterly beautiful man........aaahhhhh
shugabeargirl 10 months ago 2
On the contrary, Kim Novak was very underated! She was beautiful, mysteryous, vulnerable, cool, ladylike, sexy. She was a good actress too. Her plantinum hair and dark eyebrows are glamorous. Jean Harlow and Kim remind me of each other, meaning their blonde look. And I have always thought Valentino was so handsome and sexy.
jig9578 10 months ago
@jig9578 Everyone has their opinion. If all KN ever did was "Vertigo", I would agree with you. She is all those things in this role, which becoming Madelyn required. In other roles, she loses her mystique and her bleached hair, which leaves less of an impression of her as an actress. I admit having a bias about bleached hair. I think some of the most beautiful women are not bleached, such as Elizabeth Taylor, Heddy Lamarr, Vivien Leigh, Gene Tierney, Halle Berry and Angelina Jolie.
msrudyfan 10 months ago
I just love him he was the ultimate male soo fascinating,beauitful.Rudolph has an aura about him that you can't find anywhere today.
valentinomonroe1 10 months ago
In fact...the role of a man rescuing a woman is still the norm. If you pay close attention to our films these days...most of them havnt changed much, since Rudolf Valentino. He started all that. thats what an absolute hunk of total manhood he is. :D
binkydonna 11 months ago
Did you gouys know that WOMEN dominated holywood before Rudolf Valentino. Its a completely bygone era. They were many of them lesbian..not all of course...but you will notice in many of the old studio photographs...men are in a subservient position to women. Even Rudolf was photographed this way...as if he were worshipping them..or under their power. Rudolf changed all that.. His name began to be listed first.
binkydonna 11 months ago
@binkydonna I have a slightly different take on your observation. In RV's case, the studios simply refused to believe that he was talented. "The Four Horsemen" changed that. Next, they refused to believe he could maintain such popularity. He proved them wrong. I personally think the studio bosses and directors, who were male, were threatened by womens' reaction to him. One thing I read said that RV should be thrilled to be making out with Gloria Swanson, so they shouldn't pay him as much.
msrudyfan 10 months ago
@msrudyfan But u see...he shud have been THILLED to be making out with Gloria Swanson. Women really dominated the scene back then. I think we BOTH have good points. Ill see if I can find a really good page about him I found some years ago......some cool old studio photographs as well.
binkydonna 10 months ago
@binkydonna He eventually became friends with GS, but there was tension at the time of filming "Beyond the Rocks" because she came on to him and he turned her down. At that time, NO ONE turned down GS--well, RV did, saying he was in love with NR and wasn't interested. The pay disparity was unfair--he made a few hundred a week, she made multiple thousands a week, and he was the big draw for the film. I'd be pissed off, too.
msrudyfan 10 months ago
@msrudyfan Yes. It was different times. Gone now.
binkydonna 10 months ago
@msrudyfan That is very interesting. I thought Gloria and Rudy were friends before BTR, as she claims in her bio. What is your source for this incident of her coming on to Rudy, as I'd like to learn more. Thanks.
teadororudy 10 months ago
I just saw the movie Valentino and the actor they got to play him did this man no justice as far as looks go. Their is no comparison, now I know their is no comparison anyway because we are talking about one of the most beautiful beings to ever exist but they at least could have tried to hit the nail on the head instead of completely missing.
TheGreatZurEnRaah 11 months ago
@TheGreatZurEnRaah no shit. I commented on the same guy before. He looks more like George Hamilton than Valentino. That's like getting Whoopi Goldberg to portray Halle Berry
msmithstud 11 months ago
Except for that fuc#ing double arrow icon for the Google ad at the bottom of the frame everything was perfect. Lovely video. Some pics I've never seen before. (i hate advertisers and the people who take their money and invade every free space to promote a product - HATE them). Sorry for the rant but I thought the arrows distracted from an otherwise beautiful video.
beeba77 11 months ago 7
@beeba77
agee with you wholeheartedly,only the arows don't bother me as much, as the actual ad, which I ALWAYS have to close, just to see those arrows.
alifefullofmusic 4 months ago
@alifefullofmusic - I know exactly what you mean and I agree. - Good point.
beeba77 4 months ago
Olá estou numa busca deseperada do filme A vida de rodolfo Valentino como eu consigo esse filme dele?
Obrigado.
belusca1 1 year ago
You haven't made it in Hollywood unless you have a gay rumor, and if the actor is gay, are they no longer beautiful, no longer an artist?
Deepstarr7020 1 year ago
Join my Valentino facebook group! Rudolph Valentino Appreciation Society.
ccipollini1984 1 year ago
I promptly died at 0:20 He was a handsome man... <3
SpockLover27 1 year ago
I am i a way glad Valentino left this world when he did. He was very spiritual and the other side needed him more it seems.
ccipollini1984 1 year ago
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He was such a beautiful man, but also a beautiful soul. Whenever I hear him sing or see his film, despite his "stardom" I still still a vulnerable young man, lost in the world. The world was not ready for him. I just want to hold him close and let nothing harm him.
That's my romantic meandering...;)
FYI-NEVER see the 1977 film Valentino. His life was NEVER that manic and the rough looking Rudolph Neryouv is not who I think when i think rudy. Nobody- in ANY time- can capture him.
ccipollini1984 1 year ago 4
@ccipollini1984 Very well said. :-) That '77 film is AWFUL!! It doesn't do Rudy any justice. RN was an outstanding ballet dancer, but his tango scenes fell way short of Rudy's tango dancing. And you're absolutely right, he couldn't capture the essence of RV. As handsome as RN was, he couldn't hold a candle to RV.
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Rudy was gay. Samuel Seward documented it and took a lock of pubic hair as trophy.
almosteva 1 year ago
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Rudy was gay. Samuel seward doctumented it and took a lock of pubic hair as trophy.
almosteva 1 year ago
@almosteva
I have no issue with people being gay, as i myself am gay, but I doubt Rudy was. mabye he screwed around to do a little social climbing, But I don't belive he was gay
ccipollini1984 1 year ago
i recently had 1:36 tattooed on my right shoulder
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nineviah 1 year ago
the dark-haired boy 0:14 is Rudy's nephew Jean Valentno.
Rudolph - the left of him.
nineviah 1 year ago
@nineviah thanks for the info. I always thought it was Rudy himself and the other two were his parents. I never payed attention to the guy to the left of him otherwise i would have known it was Rudolph.
msmithstud 1 year ago
With the OBSESSION Music to 1976's Brian De Plama Homage film to Hitch. GREAT!
marekerhardt 1 year ago
@marekerhardt The music is more memorable than the film, which isn't true with other Bernard Herrmann scores for such films as "Vertigo".
msrudyfan 10 months ago
@msrudyfan While I find Vertigo overrated, Obsession is a desperate attempt to emanate Hitch. Maybe it is underrated. The film runs into its most severe problem concering incest.
marekerhardt 10 months ago
@marekerhardt My point was that I think that the music for "Obsession" is much better than the film, unlike "Vertigo"--the film and score are both good, in my opinion. Maybe I like it more than you because of the nostalgic autos, hair and clothes, Jimmy Stewart and views of fabulous San Francisco all of which appeal to me. I think that Kim Novak is overrated.
msrudyfan 10 months ago
@msrudyfan Miss Novak looks artificial as a blonde compared to the overrate Grace Kelly and underrated "Tippi" Hedren. You opinion does have much merit. The surreal elements in Vertigo are better executed. It looks more expensive and professional despite its greater age. Matte paintings in old movies offer surreal feelings.
marekerhardt 10 months ago
@marekerhardt I don't think Novak is anywhere near as talented as the other two. I agree that the platinum blonde hair looks artificial, especially with black eyebrows, but then all fake blonde hair looks bad, in my opinion. Adult women simply do not naturally have white or pastel yellow hair and it usually clashes with their skin tones. Black roots really look bad. "Vertigo" is excellent for many reasons, but most of all, Jimmy Stewart and his passion for and obsession with Madelyn.
msrudyfan 10 months ago
@msrudyfan I agree 100%. Ialso adore Rudy!!!!!! THANXXXXXX
marekerhardt 10 months ago
He will always be amazing.
George Vreeland Hill
GeorgeVreelandHill 1 year ago
how handsome :)
16reynoso 1 year ago
Such a beautiful man, and also a beautiful human being. He came off as tough, manly and refined. He was actually sensitive, vulnerable and horribly eager to please. The woman he was with were shrews and harpies and took advantage of what a genuine person he was. Whenever I see footage of him, I just wish I had been around in those times and held him near me so the world would not be as cold to him as it was.
ccipollini1984 1 year ago
1:36 is my favorite.
msmithstud 1 year ago
Great job.
49bobbyk 1 year ago
There is something about Valentino that baffles me. His eyes. So small and mystical. Like some ancient being from another time entirley. His look, the structure of his face. A living breathing work of art so divine and beautiful that he eclipsed all male stars or his time and any future time well before his passing. Johnny Depp, Brtad Pitt, George Clooney, Errol Flynn, Clint Eastwood Robert Pattinson-grovel at the feet of the GREAT Valentino!
ccipollini1984 1 year ago 18
@ccipollini1984 Couldn't agree more! He is simply the most stunning man I have ever seen. R.I.P Rudy:-(
CalliopeCarina 1 year ago
@ccipollini1984 I agree.He was a real talent.
cunningsophie 9 months ago
@ccipollini1984 because he is a latin lover they cant be that kind of supermans they white dudes
TheSatanas666 8 months ago
@TheSatanas666
yeah...
ccipollini1984 8 months ago
@ccipollini1984 Cary Grant still the Greatest....
ASSBANG6969 8 months ago
@ASSBANG6969
Then go watch a video about Cary Grant...
ccipollini1984 8 months ago 3
I Live 50 meters away from his home in Taranto :)
Maz75 1 year ago
@Maz75
I would make weekly pilgrimages!
ccipollini1984 1 year ago
A mi tio abuelo,Paco Conde(q a sus 90 años reside en Barcelonay goza de gran salud aun), lo llamaban en su juventud el Rudolph Valentino de Sevilla por lo apuesto y atrayente q era.
felixdelvalletorres 1 year ago
Valentino's a PRETTY! (u know, in the book pretties)
Mistress1657 1 year ago
Assomiglia all'Arcuri
diegomipiego2006 1 year ago
R. Valentino & H. Ledger...two very perfect specimens taken way too early....
TheSpaLife88 1 year ago
keital10 - He shouldn't have died. It's always bad doctors. I shouldn't be nasally incapacitated, banned from limosine, moon roofs, only to have my head blown away.
From the compassionate lover - I know amber alerts. good day sirs!
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Rudolph was definitely NOT gay. We shouldn't apply that accusation on people who are dead and can't defend themselves. We should stick with some of today's actors/actresses who don't care to publicly blast their sexual orientation to the world.
Smalltowngal29 1 year ago 4
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Rudolph was definitely NOT gay. We shouldn't apply that accusation on people who are dead and can't defend themselves. We should stick with some of today's actors/actresses who don't care to publicly blast their sexual orientation to the world.
Smalltowngal29 1 year ago 4
great guy video
10000109105710000 1 year ago
Errol Flynn was far more handsome and charming
greg4161 1 year ago
What a beautiful creature.
starrynightz 1 year ago
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80stimeagain 1 year ago
Such magnetisumn!
foxylorri64 1 year ago
does anyone know the name of the movie at :50
msmithstud 1 year ago
@msmithstud That's a film that Rudy and Dorothy Dalton starred in called "Moran of the Lady Letty" from 1922.
Tecun85 1 year ago
@Tecun85 thanks for clarifying. I remember the movie barely. Some of it took place on a boat. That's all I can remember.
msmithstud 1 year ago
first teen idol!!
frostowl1309 1 year ago
This is one of the most beautiful and moving tributes to Valentino I have seen. The music and photos are wonderful. You obviously spent a lot of time and effort in creating this and it is a masterpiece--thank you. I have only one comment-- I think the photo of the boy with his parents is actually his nephew Jean Valentino, son of Alberto and Ada Valentino, and not Rudy. This child looks like other photos of Jean I have seen.
msrudyfan 1 year ago
Why was he down on the ground crying next to the dead bull?..I hope it was because he could see the maddness of stabbing an animal to death....I am sorry to take away the hard work you did on your video but so called bullfighting is against every fiber of my being..
DramaDon83 1 year ago
So gorgeous, words can't describe him...I'm in total awe....
IrishEyez01 1 year ago
Wow, what a looker!! Recent Hollywood actors PALE in comparison.
Korea4Me 1 year ago
@Korea4Me what about Johnny depp and leonardo dicaprio?
unfortunatebeam 1 year ago
Valentino was misunderstood as a sensitive passionate artistic Italian who liked the finer things in life he was accused of being 'a pink powderpuff' and ended up having to 'butch himself up' taking on manly pursuits like boxing. Men put this image about because they were jealous and their women were constantly reminding them by going gaga over Rudy all the time.
Rudy is my ideal of a man he was also into spiritual issues and they say his ghost haunts Hollywood - I wouldn't be scared
Lovingsundays 1 year ago 3
what a beautiful face to grace the screen!
i love rudolph valentino (:
MustHaveKandy 1 year ago 4
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Male audiences were offended by Valentino's extravagant dress, colorful spats, make-up, and willingness to display his body on screen in such films as The Sheik and Blood and Sand . Hollywood's first queer film star, Valentino disrupted his era's rigid codes of sex and gender. Valentino's sexuality remains ambiguous, but rumors of his homosexuality were rife among Hollywood gay circles, despite (or because of) his marriages to and divorces from Jean Acker and Natacha Rambova, both lesbian.
EutuveX 1 year ago
again, I respected Valentino's work. He was very attractive. I have no reason to believe he was gay. He died way too young and had alot more to offer Hollywood. However, a lot of guys who are ''pretty boys'' with feminine complexions are mistakingly misjudges as being ''gay''. Even Zac Efron has been called ''gay'' by some. I have no reason to believe he is, but unfortunately people are going to believe what they want without any proof.
msmithstud 1 year ago 4
@msmithstud I agree with you.
80stimeagain 1 year ago
@msmithstud so WHAT if Valentino was gay? In 1924, Valentino recorded an explicit account of a one night stand with another man in his journal. (Greif, Martin, The Gay Book of Days, New York: Carol Publishing Group, p. 81, ISBN 0-8184-0384-5) The tone of your post suggests that Valentino (or Zac Efron) being gay is somewhat unfortunate.
tklogan111809 11 months ago
@tklogan111809 i was merely stating that ''pretty boys'' or men who are not masculine are stereotyped by many as being gay. Since gay people are gay ''not by choice'' , it would be unfair to label them as unfortunate.
msmithstud 11 months ago
@msmithstud hmmm you're double talking. Your original post made it seem "unfortunate" to label him as gay, as if being gay is a negative thing. Now you write that "it would be unfair to label them (gays) as unfortunate." You obviously playing with words to disguise the fact that you don't like very much the idea of Valentino being gay. Just admit that you're prejudiced. In case I'm correct (I might not be) I have news for you: Valentino have ADMITTED having had sex with men. That's being gay.
tklogan111809 11 months ago
@msmithstud The guy looks like a common peasant. Nothing more. He appealed to base instincts of plebs.
doehlg 11 months ago
Why is such a big deal made about his sexuality anyways? Men liked/lusted after him, Women obviously liked him and he loved them in return. Why is it so important for certain people to make such a big deal over his sexuality. Do they themselves question their own sexuality?
I personally don't believe he was gay or even bi sexual but lots of people do think he was, so good for them, they can have their opinions all they want, this is a free country. The real problem is this: (part 2 follows)
IrishEyez01 1 year ago
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Some tasteless, nasty individual(s) (I get to call them that because I read one of their x-rated "I really want to be gay myself but I'm in the closet and don't want my family and coworkers to know") kind of book, threw the name Rudolph Valentino in there and told in lurid detail about every pubic hair God decided to give him. I'm sure they hopped up and down in their seat when the first check came in from the publisher. (part 2 follows)
IrishEyez01 1 year ago
Part 3 - I've followed this one particular person and every attempt to write him and have him site references gets you one of three things
1 - Ignored
2 - Threatening emails
3- Very, very nasty name calling and/or cursing out.
So in summary a couple of closeted gay guys wrote some trashy novels back in the late 70's and the populace took it as GOLD....we walk amongst those who have no spine or brain of their own to use. Bad guy thinks he wins and the masses buy into it. :(
IrishEyez01 1 year ago 4
stupendo...........grazie
antoniettadag 1 year ago
Robert Pattinson, Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt you got NOTHING on Valentino!
I'd go gay for him in a second.
84ccipollini 1 year ago
Rudolph was such a beautiful man. But it's rather pointless to pine over a man who was dead decades before i was ever even born. *sigh*
thelonelyslayer 1 year ago
@thelonelyslayer i can understand people questioning his sexuality. I'm not saying he was gay or bi, but a lot of men who have a very attractive or ''pretty boy'' quality to them are stereotyped as ''gay''. If he was gay, I could understand keeping it in the closet since he would have been blacklisted in Hollywood. Nowdays when an actor or celebrity comes out , it's no big deal.
msmithstud 1 year ago
@msmithstud Well, i don't understand why it is questioned when there is no evidence to suggest a certain lifestyle. We should go by what we know Rudy did. He had wives/girlfriends. He wanted children, but naively he didn't choose the right women.
80stimeagain 1 year ago
@80stimeagain personally, it's not big deal to me, but a lot of leading men in those days were apparently in the closet: Clark Gable, Marlon Brando, James Dean, Rock Hudson, Raymond Burr and so on. These rumors always tend to come about after the person dies.
msmithstud 1 year ago
@msmithstud Yes, rumors/gossip lways start with many people. I don't know as much about those actors you mentioned. I know Rock Hudson was gay of course. There are a lot of gay actors, but there is nothing i have read to make me assume Rudy was gay too. If you're not a big Valentino fan, you won't really care if Rudy was gay or not. But, after you find out more about Rudy, the whole gay discussion just gets old. To me, Rudy's sexuality is not in question.
80stimeagain 1 year ago
@msmithstud none of those actors you mentioned were completely gay except Rock Hudson, the rest are mabye bisexual if not simply just not afraid to experiment
unfortunatebeam 1 year ago
@80stimeagain I agree totally with you! I Rudy's beauty was so breathtaking that gay men secretly wished he was gay as well!!! Most likely a man started the rumor. And real Rudy fans know very well that Natascha was the love of his life!
shelayne4 1 year ago
I don't understand Rudy's fascination with Natacha. They were different, but he sure had a thing for her even after they divorced.
80stimeagain 1 year ago
@80stimeagain I don't know either, but from what I've read, he locked eyes with her and was mesmerized. He handed over his career to her--things like the faun photos and Monsieur Beaucaire were her idea and hurt his image. I recently read that Nita Naldi is the one who spread the story about Natacha's 3 abortions, and there is conflicting information as to whether he knew about this. No one ever really understands why someone loves someone else. They were a mismatch and it couldn't last.
msrudyfan 1 year ago
@msrudyfan I don't understand why Rudy wanted Natacha so much. Rudy wanted a family some day, and Natacha never wanted kids. Rudy felt he had no control over his life while he was with Natacha. Life was moving too fast for him. Yes, there were rumors about Natacha having abortions and her cheating. We don't know if these are true. I can't remember how long they knew each other, but maybe Natacha was Rudy's longest romantic experience.
80stimeagain 1 year ago
@80stimeagain I think Rudy was a typical Italian man with a strong sense of family. Natasha wanted a career and good for her! I don't really think she was a bitch but just very strong minded - probably one of the reasons Rudy loved her. What a pity they couldn't be together such a beautiful couple aesthetically and spiritually in tune but on a practical biological level it couldn't work.
Lovingsundays 1 year ago
@Lovingsundays I agree with much of what you say. I have to say, though, I'm convinced NR was very much a bitch. During their time together, she strongly influenced him and controlled his career to the point where she almost destroyed it. She sought creative control over almost every aspect of his films, not out of misguided efforts to help him, but for her own selfish motives. Through Rudy she sought to have the career she desparately craved. She used him as a means to an end.
TheLadyMalfoy 1 year ago 4
@Lovingsundays Pt. 2 When Rudy realized the truth, he saved his career from ruin by negotiating a contract that barred her from having anything to do with his films. When NR learned this, she immediately left him and filed for divorce. Rudy was devastated, but NR didn't care she had broken his heart. Rudy's love for her clearly wasn't enough. Her career was all that mattered to her, even if she destroyed someone to have it. As far as I'm concerned she was quite a nasty woman.
TheLadyMalfoy 1 year ago 5