great review guys I really enjoyed it. I have a mesa lonestar classic right now, I love the clean tones and the features but when distorted chords sound very mushy without alot of note articulation. I was thinking about trading it for an orange which I love but Id be loosing the clean tones and versatility of the mesa. do you think this pedal can help take the "blanket" off my amp's distorted tones?
DO NOT BUY THIS PEDAL WORK GREYT BUT HAVE BIG PROBLEM, FIRST YOU cANT FIND TO BUY TUBE SEcOND TRANSFORMATOR WILL BURN ABOUT 1 YEAR BOSS IS THE BEST !!! AND IF YOU LOSE YOUR ADAPTER YOU cANT FIND IT BEcAUSE IS FUcKING 16V LONG LIVE BOSS PEDALS !!!
@ProGuitarShopDemos Hi, I got one question: I bought this one, but it says 16 volt on the back. Will the t-rex chameleon or voodolab pp 2 or mxr mc 403 do the job?
@Crysis153 No, they won't because the Twin Tube Classic requires 16 VAC/ 600mA. Stick with the provided AC power supply or a power unit capable of 16 volts AC. Thanks,
I have one of these, I play through a Blues Junior and the tone is awesome. Tones from blues to classic and heavy rock are easily achievable. My Blues Junior becomes a three channel amp.
i have a fender deluxe tube amp and i want a distortion thats crystal clear but has some hair and grit to it sounding like steve vai kind of distortion but a little more hair and balls to it any advice
@insidegoodoutsidebad I'd recommend the Visual Sound Jekyll & Hyde... 2 pedals in 1 for $150 new, and it can go from crystal clear boost to face melting high gain. It's my go-to distortion box, i just wish PGS carried them!!!
@thisplacesucksbig strange comment post. MG100 is a solid state more 'modern' sound but u r checking a demo for classic tube gain. If you are looking for more classic sound, suggest an amp change. The MG head isnt a terrible solid state, but the matched cab speakers are lacking severely. Just adding a pedal isn't going to warm them up. Either upgrade the cabinet, or you can probably do even money for a used 2X12 peavey classic / crate palomino or similar.
You need to have an imagination to watch pedal demos. If you've asked yourself (or the online demo maker) "why doesn't my pedal sound like this?", you've failed to consider all the variables. Your computer speakers might be coloring the tone. The studio space, mic, outboard chain, mix-down, and transfer may be changing the tone. The guitar, amp, and player will effect the tone. Maybe before posting a complaint about the pedal you should try different speaker loads, amps, and guitars.
I have this pedal and it doesn't sound the same like in the video. I use the pedal for an extra overdrive on my other built in amp models instead. When it's on clean and i turn on the pedal it doesn't sound so good. Any advice?
@SuperFatboy777 - Amp models? Our first piece of advice would be to consider getting a decent tube amp. It will change your life, and your pedals will be much happier too. Thanks!
@ProGuitarShopDemos Yeah, you can't drive the front-end of most transistor amps. The 2011 Peavey Transistor amps might be the first ones that shocked me by actually sounding not-shite when driven.
@reno145 - 65Amps is the name of the company that makes the Soho model amplifier. The name of the company bears no relation to the wattage of the amp. Thanks!
Listen guys if you guys run a distortion preamp / pedal through a solid state you will propably gonna have better distortion than your amp. But you won't get tube saturation. It won't sound like a tube amp cause the tube characteristics are found mostly on power section. That offcourse doesn't mean that preamp section is not important. Anyway ss amps are mainly for home use so a good preamp will give a very good practice tone but not the saturation we all love
@bonjovifan89 I have it, and I use it for clean boost with my classic 30. On the rhythm channel, it's clean with the gain at around 10'oclock to 12'oclock (depending on output of pickups) and with the volume up all the way, it still multiplies your signal by about 4X. The best part, the "classic" is ALL tube. The "mayhem" and "Blue" models have Op-Amp input stages, but this one is like adding an extra pair of dual triodes to the preamp section of your amp. So you get only the BENEFITS of boost.
Has anyone seen a schematic for this pedal? Does anyone happen to know if it has any SS devices in the signal path? I know the power supply contains chips and diodes, but that only reduces the "sag" some. It isn't going to have the same tone suckage of a transistor on the front end. Also, anyone know of any mods for this pedal?
well it is a tube overdrive rather than a solid state circuit. depends on the sound you want bro. I personally have 2 tube driven pedals on my board, as well as a tube amp hahaha
Anyone got any opinions on a tube overdrive preamp?? Im looking for my overdrive than a distortion to run on my top boost channel on my ac30. It worked for STP but finding a varidrive is very hard these days. any suggestions on an equivilent???
No, they are designed for the wider string spacing of tremolos, locking or not. Even some hardtail guitars have that and need trembuckers for perfect alignment of strings and polepieces. An exception is the original Duncan Trembucker model, now called Parallel Axis, which was designed to also compensate for the thinner sound of many Floyd Rose guitars. After that, guitarists asked for traditional HBs with the new, wider spacing. I'd recommend these TB-versions for Strats.
I think this pedal if intended to use with a Strat would need something in front of it to punch up the single coil pups. An LPB-1 or one of Seymour's Pickup Booster pedals. I'd be interested to hear what it sounds like with a hotted up Strat.
I got the pedal but it's giving me a lot of feedback. I have 5 guitars and a brand new vox tube amp that is in perfect condition. I also plugged in every one of the guitars and I still get a high pitched noise, and a lot of feedback when I don't hold the strings down. What could it be? Does anyone have an opinion. I thoght it would be the pickup height but all of them are setup right, I also thought it could be the output jack but those are fine as well. Checked the pots (fine). HELP?!?!!?
low quality cables are sometimes responsible for feedback. try using expensive ones (all elixir, george l, dimargio, monster cables would do) and if that doesn't work try getting a noise supressor/dehumbucker/gate <---any of these will eliminate feedback (i personaly prefer the dehumbucker cause the signal doesn't get affected at all by the pedal
...It's not equipment problems. Most likely a setting problem. Do you have the volume up all the way or something? I get problems with whenever I let go of my strings with a distortion pedal on *NOT THIS PEDAL AT ALL, I DON'T HAVE ONE OF THESE*, the harmonic feedback just springs out of nowhere. Roll back on the volume on the amp, if the feedback drops off quite a bit, if not completely, then that's what it is.
I notice no one demos this with a single coil strat. I had this pedal and loved some things about it but was bummed the lead channel has a massive suckout in the midrange that took away ALL that great strat tone. Seems this pedal was voiced for humped up humbuckers only. If Seymour would redesign this with a mid-shift option I'll buy and so will a lot of others! The other thing I really liked was the rhythm channel could start out clean and rich, most tube pedals are nothing but saturated crap
Pbass19 and liberty falls are both wrong. Pbass, I have played this through tube amps and solid state amps. It sounds good through a Hotrod deville, bad through a JCM200, good through a Crate GFX212, bad through a Frontman212. It depends on the individual amp. And as for refusing to play through anything solid state, well I guess that means the twin tube is your only pedal? If you put a solid state pedal in front of a tube amp, it's not tube tone. There's good SS amps and bad tube amps.
exactly. Through a fender fontman 100h it sounds pretty bad, but through a peavey solid state it sounds decent, but through my Supro it sounds FANTASTIC.
Pardon my ignorance, but can you run other pedals after this if you're using it as a preamp, or would they sound shitty and/or be damaged by the high levels? I'm guessing digital wouldn't work, but analog would. HELP!
That's a question to which there's no real right answer. This pedal has a shitload of gain, and is capable of driving a line level signal if the volume and gain are both all the way up. I'd say turn off the pedal, play a chord, turn it on, play the same chord. Adjust the gain where you want it, then the volume until you have the same approximate volume in bypass and with the pedal on. Then you know you aren't putting any more current in to your pedals than the guitar does by itself.
the only REAL test is to put that shit through a solid state amp to test if its REALLY gonna make a great difference in sound. If it can warm up a solid state amp as well give it a tube feel, then its worth it. Its cheating by testing it with a expensive boutique amp
In my opinion i find that this pedal sounds better through a solid state amp. I own this pedal and have played it through both my SS Flextone III and my All Tube Fender Supersonic. I don't like it as much in front of my tube amp.
Except for all those jazz players who are playing Polytones. Or the other guys using JC120s as their clean tone. Or the Death Metallers using solid state for their stuff. Your generalization fails.
As for the jazz, clean tones don't carry much saturation. As for the metal, heavily distorted tones don't need the dynamics and extension clarity that power tubes provide. If you're gonna play with partially overdriven tones or play chords with extensions overdriven your gonna lose alot of clarity at high volumes without power tubes.
no matter what you do, you can't make a solid state amp sound and act like a tube amp. A tube pedal will help, but in the end it would sound even better through a tube amp.
yes itll sound better through a tube amp. I have a mesa lonestar classic, a top of the line tube amp and I plan on buying a seymour duncan TT for this reason: I love tube tone and cranking a 100 watt amp isnt always available. now I dont have to buy a smaller amp for practice and can get the tone I want at bed room levels. also I can use it as an overdrive for live shows so it works all around even if you have a quality amp already
Have this in front of my lonestar and like it much better, plan on getting the twin tube blue as well. It adds alot of grit, but this video doesnt really do it justice, I think his amp has a weird mid spike, non-theless gotta love andy for everything that he does for us !
Anyways I post a clip of it through the lonestar if you like, let me know, I'll be glad to !
I just got one of these on ebay $177. Its great on my little cheap Johnson tube amp. I can crank up the volume and gain on this and turn down the volume on the amp and get great breakup at low volume. Total control over distortion. I don't think you can get this quality sound with non tube pedals. Not with Boss anyway I own those to. Turn your amp volume way down to start because this thing really cranks it up. +74 to +98 db gain.
so try the TTClassic in different positions: before EQ, After EQ, Before Tube PreAmp, After Tube PreAmp... they all will give different sounds, also the pickup is very important so try using brand pickups, i recomend using Rockfield Mafias, or SH-5 or SH-6, those have worked great for me
This is a nice souding classic souding overdrive type pedal. I would be real interested in a demo of Seymour Duncan's SFX-11 Twin Tube Blue pedal just so that we could hear the tonal differences between the two.
Thanks guys, you do a great job at showing the available gear for folks.
To be honest... from my own experience, I solid state preamp through a tube power amp sounds TONS better than a tube preamp through a solid state power amp...
The real "saturation" comes from the power tubes...
That's only if the SS preamp is boosting the signal. It's about even number harmonics, and you get those if your distortion is from overloaded tubes, whether its preamp tubes or power tubes. If you back off the gain on a TS-5, but turn up the output level, your power tubes are giving even harmonics. If you turn the level to that of a clean guitar, but the distortion is coming from the gain inside the preamp (including pedals in this) then you are getting the sterile distortion of the ss pedal.
good report.. i also heard that preamp distortion alone is not warm and compressing.. just buzz... the pro sound is from saturating the power tubes... so how can you do that, are there pedals to saturate power tubes or can you only do that by cranking the volume? and btw.. then i don't get how master volume pots should help for a good sound at bedroom level.. would mean it is just preamp distortion??? thanks for clarification. i plan on buying an attenuator for my tube amp.
If you pair the english muff'n with a ge-7 u can get a better sound out of it,
but ud be better off going with the twin tube or the ibanez. I think the ibanez tube king is just so unique with its void feature that it is a definite must. No need for a noise suppressor. total plug and play awesomeness
the problem with other tube pedals, like the overdrive king, is that they use full size tubes (usually 12AX7). Those cannot get get nice and hot on the 9 volts those pedals run off. Therefore you cant acquire the true feel of a real tube amp being pushed. The Twin Tube uses sub-miniature tubes and much more voltage (16v) to give you the hot tube feel everyone craves.... true story.
I fear I would bump the knobs with my foot onstage. But it sounds great. I bet it's just the thing infront of something like a Bassman head, or a similar clean Fender tone.
I think it sounds awesome with strats. it really warms up the tone of single coil and makes them sound fatter. although some people dont like it as it EQs the really jangly bell like shimmer strat sounds out.
That's why we did the Twin Tube Blue. It's like the polar opposite on Strats. Its Robert Cray and Buddy Guy heaven. Not tyring to spam, just agreeing with you!
I own it. I play it with a SS Crate with a 65watt and 12" driver. Let it get warm. The longer the better. I'll turn it on an hour before I play. It certainly makes that Crate sound alot better.
It really does sound nice! My only concern is that the tubes are said to be "not user replaceable". That could be a pain (and expensive) to have to ship the unit someplace every year or two to have new tubes put in. Otherwise (for me) a purchase would be a no-brainer.
The tubes are supposed to last even longer that the unit itself, which lasts forever anyways. I've got one of these... and, in my opinion, nothing comes closer to a hot tube amp. Crazy versatility too. Rhythm channel is like a TS808 with a ton more range, and the Lead is just saturated sonic gold. Best pedal ever. Man, Duncan should be paying for this or something.
The tubes are supposed to last longer that the unit itself, which lasts a looong time. In my opinion, nothing is closer to a tube amp on fire. Crazy versatility too. The rhythm channel is like a TS808 with a ton more range. The Lead is just saturated sonic gold. Best pedal ever. Man, Seymour should be paying me or something.
tubes supposed to last longer? since when? all tubes have to be adjusted every now and then (or whatever it's called), it's surely so when it comes to tube amps, so what about effect units...
allth3s4me, these are special military-spec tubes that last longer than 12AX7s. Also, you're thinking of rebiasing, which is for power tubes, not preamp tubes, and even then, only when you replace them with a new set. None of those are issues you'd have with this pedal.
I have played for over 30 years and know this to be the much ballyhooed "vintage" sound every magazine raves about as well as guitar and amp makers try to keep up with.
Look at most rock videos and many of the players are in the death metal zone, rendering the vintage sound useless.
So, who buys this stuff? Old guys who can't afford the real thing or is it a novelty?
Nice, two tubes, six knobs, great breakup and not hard to dial in a killer tone. I'm sure this baby could make a solid state amp sound so nice. I'm really happy with what Seymour Duncan doing, their new Tremolo is great too. F**k that lead section sounds great!
how does this works together with the ibanez ts8 tubescreamer? does it works nice to play for exaple vinnie moore? or something more modern like petrucci's sound? thanks
probably pretty good since the fender blues deluxe has a pretty nice clean tone. I'm going to get this for my lonestar classic pretty soon. The clean tones on the amp are unreal, couple that with this stomp box and I'll have the best of both worlds. not that the distortion channel on the lonestar is bad at all
Proguitarshop is amazing, i really appreciate the fact that they really read the comments on their videos and help the potencial costumers with their decisions!
And, as well, that's really good "upselling" right there hahaha
The Twin Tube Classic has plenty of sustain on its own. If you listen to the clean tone, there isn't any compression or added gain. With a Les Paul, you'll get a little more sustain. However, there is plenty of gain available for screaming single coils! Thanks,
great review guys I really enjoyed it. I have a mesa lonestar classic right now, I love the clean tones and the features but when distorted chords sound very mushy without alot of note articulation. I was thinking about trading it for an orange which I love but Id be loosing the clean tones and versatility of the mesa. do you think this pedal can help take the "blanket" off my amp's distorted tones?
BlueAvenue22 1 week ago
DO NOT BUY THIS PEDAL WORK GREYT BUT HAVE BIG PROBLEM, FIRST YOU cANT FIND TO BUY TUBE SEcOND TRANSFORMATOR WILL BURN ABOUT 1 YEAR BOSS IS THE BEST !!! AND IF YOU LOSE YOUR ADAPTER YOU cANT FIND IT BEcAUSE IS FUcKING 16V LONG LIVE BOSS PEDALS !!!
MilanMilicevic 2 months ago
@MilanMilicevic YOUR POINTS ARE MUCH MORE VALID WHEN YOU DON'T TYPE LIKE THIS !!!
gdrugg2006 3 weeks ago
Catscratch fever!!!!!!
slapmaster691 2 months ago
@ProGuitarShopDemos Hi, I got one question: I bought this one, but it says 16 volt on the back. Will the t-rex chameleon or voodolab pp 2 or mxr mc 403 do the job?
Many thanks in advance
Crysis153 2 months ago
@Crysis153 No, they won't because the Twin Tube Classic requires 16 VAC/ 600mA. Stick with the provided AC power supply or a power unit capable of 16 volts AC. Thanks,
PGS
ProGuitarShopDemos 2 months ago
Fatal flaw of any twin tube: You can't replace the tubes yourself. You have to send it to Seymour Duncan in order to get replacement tubes.
mr4y 6 months ago
Are you going to review the Twin Tube Blue pedal?
philbio66 7 months ago
Do you guys have a favorite dirty pedal/s?
HandRpuffin 8 months ago
I have one of these, I play through a Blues Junior and the tone is awesome. Tones from blues to classic and heavy rock are easily achievable. My Blues Junior becomes a three channel amp.
Wi66pro 8 months ago
very clear and good review!
TheBlackxism 9 months ago
i LOVE THIS PEDAL... i want it in my rig but i cant find it anywhere for an affordable price for me D:
thatcoolG 10 months ago
@thatcoolG I'm selling one for 150 on ebay right now, three weeks old, been played twice, check it out ~ PilotSSW
pilotSSW 9 months ago
i have a fender deluxe tube amp and i want a distortion thats crystal clear but has some hair and grit to it sounding like steve vai kind of distortion but a little more hair and balls to it any advice
insidegoodoutsidebad 1 year ago
@insidegoodoutsidebad I'd recommend the Visual Sound Jekyll & Hyde... 2 pedals in 1 for $150 new, and it can go from crystal clear boost to face melting high gain. It's my go-to distortion box, i just wish PGS carried them!!!
NHBluesMan 1 year ago
Are you planning to review the Seymour Duncan Twin Tube Blue Pedal?
philbio66 1 year ago
good demo. i'm sold on this. i think i will order it. anyway theres a lot of know it alls leaving comments.
t0psecretshit 1 year ago
Are you guys gonna demo some Wampler pedals, namely the Plextortion? They're great pedals ay!
philbinator1977 1 year ago
Can you plug this straight into a cabinet?
wilfredomiguelcastro 1 year ago
I have an MG100HDFX I wonder how this would sound with it? I also use a Les paul custom with standard PU's
thisplacesucksbig 1 year ago
@thisplacesucksbig strange comment post. MG100 is a solid state more 'modern' sound but u r checking a demo for classic tube gain. If you are looking for more classic sound, suggest an amp change. The MG head isnt a terrible solid state, but the matched cab speakers are lacking severely. Just adding a pedal isn't going to warm them up. Either upgrade the cabinet, or you can probably do even money for a used 2X12 peavey classic / crate palomino or similar.
frankbarbarino 1 year ago
Hey! Really appreciate great videos. By the way what is the name of the great song you use for the intro in all clips?
zifirblues 1 year ago
Dear ProGuitarShop,
Please do another demo of this pedal with the DRR. The demos with the 65 amps are so much worse sounding than the DRR ones.
Thanks
favre4ever1995 1 year ago
@favre4ever1995 This is an old demo, they cleaned up a lot of recording techniques since then. It really has little to do with the amp.
phriend2spin 1 year ago
After how long these tubes need to be replaced? And are the tubes easily accessed?
Zeiler91 1 year ago
Not enough gain for my taste but if you play rock, go for it!
killthepixelnow 1 year ago
You need to have an imagination to watch pedal demos. If you've asked yourself (or the online demo maker) "why doesn't my pedal sound like this?", you've failed to consider all the variables. Your computer speakers might be coloring the tone. The studio space, mic, outboard chain, mix-down, and transfer may be changing the tone. The guitar, amp, and player will effect the tone. Maybe before posting a complaint about the pedal you should try different speaker loads, amps, and guitars.
blueblackred11 1 year ago 3
I have this pedal and it doesn't sound the same like in the video. I use the pedal for an extra overdrive on my other built in amp models instead. When it's on clean and i turn on the pedal it doesn't sound so good. Any advice?
SuperFatboy777 1 year ago
@SuperFatboy777 - Amp models? Our first piece of advice would be to consider getting a decent tube amp. It will change your life, and your pedals will be much happier too. Thanks!
-PGS Video Crew
ProGuitarShopDemos 1 year ago 25
@ProGuitarShopDemos Yeah, you can't drive the front-end of most transistor amps. The 2011 Peavey Transistor amps might be the first ones that shocked me by actually sounding not-shite when driven.
TheGzeus 10 months ago
so really u could use this and plug in headphones? or ur car :)
ZenGuy12 1 year ago
Nice demo. Just one issue: 65 WATT not 65 amp!
reno145 1 year ago
@reno145 - Nope. The 65Amps Soho is only 20 watts. Thanks!
ProGuitarShopDemos 1 year ago 21
@ProGuitarShopDemos Thanks for the info. Then say it is a 20 WATT amplifier. No offense, but that is one of my musical pet peeves.
reno145 1 year ago
@reno145 - 65Amps is the name of the company that makes the Soho model amplifier. The name of the company bears no relation to the wattage of the amp. Thanks!
-PGS Video Crew
ProGuitarShopDemos 1 year ago 32
@ProGuitarShopDemos he-s just a dumb-ass (in other words, his bottom end isnt as smart as other peoples')
TheFunnyzach 5 months ago
@reno145 LOL, the make of the amp is 65amp.
alexthemod1 1 year ago
@reno145 moron
brownbigb 1 year ago
@reno145 hahahahaha
deadheadman66 1 year ago
@reno145 Wheeey!
xPORTERLOOx 5 months ago
How would it sound if i used it with my bugera v22?
Acer6828 1 year ago
yeah that neck pickup sounds blah
brianwurst1234 1 year ago
How does one "scoop" the mids without having a mid control? Or is that even possible?
doctorgone 1 year ago
Listen guys if you guys run a distortion preamp / pedal through a solid state you will propably gonna have better distortion than your amp. But you won't get tube saturation. It won't sound like a tube amp cause the tube characteristics are found mostly on power section. That offcourse doesn't mean that preamp section is not important. Anyway ss amps are mainly for home use so a good preamp will give a very good practice tone but not the saturation we all love
topografer 1 year ago
The only problem I have with these reviews is that this guy doesnt use a pick & seldom uses the bridge pickup. Apart from that, I love this channel
Zevonfan524 1 year ago
man and this pedal is only goes for $140 used on ebay! I need to get my hands on one!
bonjovifan89 1 year ago
@bonjovifan89 I have it, and I use it for clean boost with my classic 30. On the rhythm channel, it's clean with the gain at around 10'oclock to 12'oclock (depending on output of pickups) and with the volume up all the way, it still multiplies your signal by about 4X. The best part, the "classic" is ALL tube. The "mayhem" and "Blue" models have Op-Amp input stages, but this one is like adding an extra pair of dual triodes to the preamp section of your amp. So you get only the BENEFITS of boost.
punkeratheart 1 year ago
This. Fucking. Rules!
Jordantm0 1 year ago
Has anyone seen a schematic for this pedal? Does anyone happen to know if it has any SS devices in the signal path? I know the power supply contains chips and diodes, but that only reduces the "sag" some. It isn't going to have the same tone suckage of a transistor on the front end. Also, anyone know of any mods for this pedal?
punkeratheart 1 year ago
I'd like to hear thos pedal on a solid state amp like a fm100h or similar.
ArielsSmartyPants 1 year ago
It turned my son's solid state 75W line 6 into a nice sounding hybrid.
Works great.
bigtiii 1 year ago
Would this pedal do fine to gain Fender Twin Reverb?
BlisterOnTheMoon 1 year ago
@BlisterOnTheMoon yeah fender amps take pedals very well
popomczowzow 1 year ago
@BlisterOnTheMoon
the reason i'm buying one is because i saw a guy using it in front of a twin reverb, it's amazing...
vitorp69 1 year ago
I travel a lot and never work with an amp of my choice (never tube). This looks like a decent way to bring tube gain with me.
Semach4444 2 years ago
This pedal is vaguely intimidating.
JSGuitar80 2 years ago
Search YouTube for Gjika Mini Amp. It is a real powertube distortion pedal! Rare find!
rtaylo30 2 years ago
this a great pedal,
but I found that the OCD V3 is a better pedal,
not as much stuff you can do with it,
but it gave me more tone. You can't really push this pedal to far,
it only gives a lil overdrive,
if you really want to saturate it,
you need a good booster or an eq after the pedal to really make it scream
minibikedude04 2 years ago
I couldn't agree with you less. The OCD can't give anything useful above 12 o'clock on the gain knob. This pedal shits on the OCD for saturation.
BluPup8 1 year ago
Do the Twin Tube Blue You Guys!!!!!!!!
Timzsk8 2 years ago
no i'd go with this depending on what you play
Luckums135 2 years ago
do you think this pedal is better than maxon od-9 pro +?
I just can't decide
Sweetsonofabitch 2 years ago
well it is a tube overdrive rather than a solid state circuit. depends on the sound you want bro. I personally have 2 tube driven pedals on my board, as well as a tube amp hahaha
bassandguitargreg 1 year ago
Anyone got any opinions on a tube overdrive preamp?? Im looking for my overdrive than a distortion to run on my top boost channel on my ac30. It worked for STP but finding a varidrive is very hard these days. any suggestions on an equivilent???
ThisCoverBlows 2 years ago
i got one of these bad dads on order right now, should have it in a couple days! cannto wait to hear what this will sould like with my strat.
timshreds734 2 years ago
Too bad there is now way to scoop the mids
doctorgone 2 years ago
Adjust that from the amp itself.
clintonpuah 2 years ago 2
So seymour duncan trembuckers are only for locking tremolo equipped guitars? "Vintage" Tremolo equipped guitars get regular spaced humbuckers?
PrsFenderJackson1980 2 years ago
yep
fenderbender28 2 years ago
@PrsFenderJackson1980
No, they are designed for the wider string spacing of tremolos, locking or not. Even some hardtail guitars have that and need trembuckers for perfect alignment of strings and polepieces. An exception is the original Duncan Trembucker model, now called Parallel Axis, which was designed to also compensate for the thinner sound of many Floyd Rose guitars. After that, guitarists asked for traditional HBs with the new, wider spacing. I'd recommend these TB-versions for Strats.
65Custom 2 years ago
This pedal is a bad clone of a Siegmund double drive.
Ilovemyfender2 2 years ago
I think this pedal if intended to use with a Strat would need something in front of it to punch up the single coil pups. An LPB-1 or one of Seymour's Pickup Booster pedals. I'd be interested to hear what it sounds like with a hotted up Strat.
RandyWayneFricke 2 years ago
I got the pedal but it's giving me a lot of feedback. I have 5 guitars and a brand new vox tube amp that is in perfect condition. I also plugged in every one of the guitars and I still get a high pitched noise, and a lot of feedback when I don't hold the strings down. What could it be? Does anyone have an opinion. I thoght it would be the pickup height but all of them are setup right, I also thought it could be the output jack but those are fine as well. Checked the pots (fine). HELP?!?!!?
ekserchina 2 years ago
How are you routing your signal,Front of the amp/effects loop,or routing through any rack units??
petiethepitt 2 years ago
how high do you have the gain and treble on the pedal and your amp?
mistersnaredrum 2 years ago
low quality cables are sometimes responsible for feedback. try using expensive ones (all elixir, george l, dimargio, monster cables would do) and if that doesn't work try getting a noise supressor/dehumbucker/gate <---any of these will eliminate feedback (i personaly prefer the dehumbucker cause the signal doesn't get affected at all by the pedal
indominesangel 2 years ago 2
do you have the mids cranked? are you standing in close proximity of the amp? is the treble cranked on the pedal? is your tone already saturated?
all these could be contributing factors to your feedback issue.
jhachey222 2 years ago
...It's not equipment problems. Most likely a setting problem. Do you have the volume up all the way or something? I get problems with whenever I let go of my strings with a distortion pedal on *NOT THIS PEDAL AT ALL, I DON'T HAVE ONE OF THESE*, the harmonic feedback just springs out of nowhere. Roll back on the volume on the amp, if the feedback drops off quite a bit, if not completely, then that's what it is.
Avak2 2 years ago
I notice no one demos this with a single coil strat. I had this pedal and loved some things about it but was bummed the lead channel has a massive suckout in the midrange that took away ALL that great strat tone. Seems this pedal was voiced for humped up humbuckers only. If Seymour would redesign this with a mid-shift option I'll buy and so will a lot of others! The other thing I really liked was the rhythm channel could start out clean and rich, most tube pedals are nothing but saturated crap
mKreifeldt 2 years ago
Pbass19 and liberty falls are both wrong. Pbass, I have played this through tube amps and solid state amps. It sounds good through a Hotrod deville, bad through a JCM200, good through a Crate GFX212, bad through a Frontman212. It depends on the individual amp. And as for refusing to play through anything solid state, well I guess that means the twin tube is your only pedal? If you put a solid state pedal in front of a tube amp, it's not tube tone. There's good SS amps and bad tube amps.
punkeratheart 2 years ago
exactly. Through a fender fontman 100h it sounds pretty bad, but through a peavey solid state it sounds decent, but through my Supro it sounds FANTASTIC.
minibikedude04 2 years ago
Pardon my ignorance, but can you run other pedals after this if you're using it as a preamp, or would they sound shitty and/or be damaged by the high levels? I'm guessing digital wouldn't work, but analog would. HELP!
Chumleh 2 years ago
That's a question to which there's no real right answer. This pedal has a shitload of gain, and is capable of driving a line level signal if the volume and gain are both all the way up. I'd say turn off the pedal, play a chord, turn it on, play the same chord. Adjust the gain where you want it, then the volume until you have the same approximate volume in bypass and with the pedal on. Then you know you aren't putting any more current in to your pedals than the guitar does by itself.
punkeratheart 2 years ago
i dont see why you couldnt... but why not put them in front of it? its generally better to put others before distortion in the chain anyway
Guitarguy46599 2 years ago
the only REAL test is to put that shit through a solid state amp to test if its REALLY gonna make a great difference in sound. If it can warm up a solid state amp as well give it a tube feel, then its worth it. Its cheating by testing it with a expensive boutique amp
RNRDOLL 2 years ago
In my opinion i find that this pedal sounds better through a solid state amp. I own this pedal and have played it through both my SS Flextone III and my All Tube Fender Supersonic. I don't like it as much in front of my tube amp.
pbass19 2 years ago
solid state sucks. anyone that gives a crap about their tone refuses to play through one.
libertyfalls 2 years ago
Except for all those jazz players who are playing Polytones. Or the other guys using JC120s as their clean tone. Or the Death Metallers using solid state for their stuff. Your generalization fails.
penguindredg 2 years ago 7
@penguindredg
As for the jazz, clean tones don't carry much saturation. As for the metal, heavily distorted tones don't need the dynamics and extension clarity that power tubes provide. If you're gonna play with partially overdriven tones or play chords with extensions overdriven your gonna lose alot of clarity at high volumes without power tubes.
intervalkid 1 year ago
BB King; Lab Series.
WyrmDL 2 years ago
Is this an amp, a pre-amp, a pedal or a toy?
EuropeFactor 2 years ago
I always thought that a "tube" pedal was meant to make a solid state amp sound like a tube amp. What's the point of putting this through a tube amp?
bilbomarks 2 years ago 2
true
sIash90 2 years ago
no matter what you do, you can't make a solid state amp sound and act like a tube amp. A tube pedal will help, but in the end it would sound even better through a tube amp.
rsl84416 2 years ago
yes itll sound better through a tube amp. I have a mesa lonestar classic, a top of the line tube amp and I plan on buying a seymour duncan TT for this reason: I love tube tone and cranking a 100 watt amp isnt always available. now I dont have to buy a smaller amp for practice and can get the tone I want at bed room levels. also I can use it as an overdrive for live shows so it works all around even if you have a quality amp already
AlexanderBlueAvenue 2 years ago
Have this in front of my lonestar and like it much better, plan on getting the twin tube blue as well. It adds alot of grit, but this video doesnt really do it justice, I think his amp has a weird mid spike, non-theless gotta love andy for everything that he does for us !
Anyways I post a clip of it through the lonestar if you like, let me know, I'll be glad to !
pilotSSW 2 years ago
@bilbomarks You add some more preamp to your amp.
StreakingInJanuary 1 year ago
I just got one of these on ebay $177. Its great on my little cheap Johnson tube amp. I can crank up the volume and gain on this and turn down the volume on the amp and get great breakup at low volume. Total control over distortion. I don't think you can get this quality sound with non tube pedals. Not with Boss anyway I own those to. Turn your amp volume way down to start because this thing really cranks it up. +74 to +98 db gain.
jackiewhitt 2 years ago
I certainly think SD tried hard and fell off the mark, plenty of other non tube pedals sound as good or better than this.
ChonnyChimole 2 years ago
u have to try it in person with a quality amp,
such as a fender tube or a Marshall or an orange.
a supro would make it sound good,
but of course what doesn't sound good through a supro haha
minibikedude04 2 years ago
so try the TTClassic in different positions: before EQ, After EQ, Before Tube PreAmp, After Tube PreAmp... they all will give different sounds, also the pickup is very important so try using brand pickups, i recomend using Rockfield Mafias, or SH-5 or SH-6, those have worked great for me
hostilekeldon 2 years ago
This is a nice souding classic souding overdrive type pedal. I would be real interested in a demo of Seymour Duncan's SFX-11 Twin Tube Blue pedal just so that we could hear the tonal differences between the two.
Thanks guys, you do a great job at showing the available gear for folks.
bombtek 2 years ago
I have this piece of kit, it's absolutely stellar. Best bit of gear I own, apart from my Les Paul '59
EuropeFactor 2 years ago
Does it work with solid state amps? please answer.
HarryBarber08 3 years ago
Actually it helps the solid state sound much better. I have a MG marshall and with this is sounds damn close to a tube marshall.
thisplacesucksbig 3 years ago
To be honest... from my own experience, I solid state preamp through a tube power amp sounds TONS better than a tube preamp through a solid state power amp...
The real "saturation" comes from the power tubes...
cybershane 2 years ago 7
what do u recon wud happen if u put a solid state pedal infront of a tube amp??
tiddlywinks98712 2 years ago
Wouldn't that be a really common combination
sdcnigga 2 years ago
That's only if the SS preamp is boosting the signal. It's about even number harmonics, and you get those if your distortion is from overloaded tubes, whether its preamp tubes or power tubes. If you back off the gain on a TS-5, but turn up the output level, your power tubes are giving even harmonics. If you turn the level to that of a clean guitar, but the distortion is coming from the gain inside the preamp (including pedals in this) then you are getting the sterile distortion of the ss pedal.
punkeratheart 2 years ago
good report.. i also heard that preamp distortion alone is not warm and compressing.. just buzz... the pro sound is from saturating the power tubes... so how can you do that, are there pedals to saturate power tubes or can you only do that by cranking the volume? and btw.. then i don't get how master volume pots should help for a good sound at bedroom level.. would mean it is just preamp distortion??? thanks for clarification. i plan on buying an attenuator for my tube amp.
GeekG 2 years ago
which pedal sounds better, this one or the radial tonebone trimode?..
yayayair 3 years ago
its all a matter of personal taste,
as for me i prefer the ibanez tube king,
its got a really punchy deep fat sound,
compared to the english muff'n,
which is super super gainy and grainy.
If you pair the english muff'n with a ge-7 u can get a better sound out of it,
but ud be better off going with the twin tube or the ibanez. I think the ibanez tube king is just so unique with its void feature that it is a definite must. No need for a noise suppressor. total plug and play awesomeness
minibikedude04 3 years ago
the problem with other tube pedals, like the overdrive king, is that they use full size tubes (usually 12AX7). Those cannot get get nice and hot on the 9 volts those pedals run off. Therefore you cant acquire the true feel of a real tube amp being pushed. The Twin Tube uses sub-miniature tubes and much more voltage (16v) to give you the hot tube feel everyone craves.... true story.
amateurlife 2 years ago 4
I fear I would bump the knobs with my foot onstage. But it sounds great. I bet it's just the thing infront of something like a Bassman head, or a similar clean Fender tone.
coronet67 3 years ago 2
then pop those off and put smaller ones on!
stupidplants 3 years ago
Mine sounds great in front of my Victoria Twin.
cousingrandpa 2 years ago
Cat scratch feveeeeeeeeeeeeer!!!
JeanEstienne 3 years ago
sounds very! but how it works with single coils? i have esp vintage distressed strato...
sbiidi 3 years ago
I think it sounds awesome with strats. it really warms up the tone of single coil and makes them sound fatter. although some people dont like it as it EQs the really jangly bell like shimmer strat sounds out.
AlexanderBlueAvenue 3 years ago
That's why we did the Twin Tube Blue. It's like the polar opposite on Strats. Its Robert Cray and Buddy Guy heaven. Not tyring to spam, just agreeing with you!
frankfalbo 2 years ago
I own it. I play it with a SS Crate with a 65watt and 12" driver. Let it get warm. The longer the better. I'll turn it on an hour before I play. It certainly makes that Crate sound alot better.
audio454 3 years ago
Ooh, could you demo the Mayhem next time?
wowurnotgood 3 years ago
It may be very nice feature in pair with solid state amp. Pluging it into "return" socket in amps effects loop make it work as hybrid amp.
Scumkill2 3 years ago
the only box distortion i liked was the H&K
Obelisk2290 3 years ago
It really does sound nice! My only concern is that the tubes are said to be "not user replaceable". That could be a pain (and expensive) to have to ship the unit someplace every year or two to have new tubes put in. Otherwise (for me) a purchase would be a no-brainer.
Tull1996 3 years ago 2
it says it has "bulletproof construction" no idea if that refers to the tubes though. I know some military tubes instead of being glass are metal.
LeviMan2001 3 years ago
Hey, tull1996.
The tubes are supposed to last even longer that the unit itself, which lasts forever anyways. I've got one of these... and, in my opinion, nothing comes closer to a hot tube amp. Crazy versatility too. Rhythm channel is like a TS808 with a ton more range, and the Lead is just saturated sonic gold. Best pedal ever. Man, Duncan should be paying for this or something.
amateurlife 3 years ago
hey tull1996,
The tubes are supposed to last longer that the unit itself, which lasts a looong time. In my opinion, nothing is closer to a tube amp on fire. Crazy versatility too. The rhythm channel is like a TS808 with a ton more range. The Lead is just saturated sonic gold. Best pedal ever. Man, Seymour should be paying me or something.
amateurlife 3 years ago
tubes supposed to last longer? since when? all tubes have to be adjusted every now and then (or whatever it's called), it's surely so when it comes to tube amps, so what about effect units...
allth3s4me 3 years ago
allth3s4me, these are special military-spec tubes that last longer than 12AX7s. Also, you're thinking of rebiasing, which is for power tubes, not preamp tubes, and even then, only when you replace them with a new set. None of those are issues you'd have with this pedal.
stratman9 3 years ago
Biased.
ColorSeepage 3 years ago
amazing sounding tube pedal
philbio66 3 years ago
This sounds great in front of a Line 6 flextone or crate powerblock
Mznblu247 3 years ago
cat scratch fever!!!!
australopitechus 3 years ago
I think a rally great instrument had a nice tone in the 70's and it has a nice tone in 2008 too. It's ageless. 'Vintage' it's not more than a word.
posztcsoper 3 years ago
Shiny!
Slayer166 3 years ago
I have played for over 30 years and know this to be the much ballyhooed "vintage" sound every magazine raves about as well as guitar and amp makers try to keep up with.
Look at most rock videos and many of the players are in the death metal zone, rendering the vintage sound useless.
So, who buys this stuff? Old guys who can't afford the real thing or is it a novelty?
alwaysopen 3 years ago
TED!!!!!
fakename7543 3 years ago
I have this one playing through a Line 6 Flextone III...great tone!
pbass19 3 years ago
Nice, two tubes, six knobs, great breakup and not hard to dial in a killer tone. I'm sure this baby could make a solid state amp sound so nice. I'm really happy with what Seymour Duncan doing, their new Tremolo is great too. F**k that lead section sounds great!
TheBlackCrayon77 3 years ago
i have this one in front of a fender blues deluxe...soundig awesome!!^^
fragmashine 3 years ago
Really? That's my next amp! lol Could you explain some of the tones you can get with that combination?
HelloImJonesy1 3 years ago
What voltage adaptor does this run on?
overdriveIII 3 years ago
16VAC
dyslexicunt 3 years ago
how long do tubes usaly last for fluent players and hobby players?
ic300x 3 years ago 2
2-3 years normally.
accuratedan 3 years ago
how does this works together with the ibanez ts8 tubescreamer? does it works nice to play for exaple vinnie moore? or something more modern like petrucci's sound? thanks
marshallpagoda 3 years ago
Great for 70's rock, thats about it.
krelbar 3 years ago
You say that like it's a BAD thing...
bigtophalloween 3 years ago
Well you cant do Death metal on it
KickAssCorporation 3 years ago
well who wants a nice tube distortion pedal for death metal?
death metal = randall + a guitar w/ EMGs
amarr1 3 years ago 6
wats a really good metal pedal, capable od death, thrash and metalcore????????
Maximusstriker 3 years ago
...Seymour Duncan Twin Tube Mayhem
TheEasyWay11 3 years ago 2
lol, it sounds like cat scratch fever
permadeth 3 years ago
How would this work on a tube amp? and on the delta blues style music?
ZombieGuitarPlaya 3 years ago
have you ever heard delta blues?
rixills 3 years ago
uno dei migliori pedali di tutti i tempi
plexi59 3 years ago
i agree
amarr1 3 years ago
how it will be sound with a fender blues deluxe??
fragmashine 3 years ago
probably pretty good since the fender blues deluxe has a pretty nice clean tone. I'm going to get this for my lonestar classic pretty soon. The clean tones on the amp are unreal, couple that with this stomp box and I'll have the best of both worlds. not that the distortion channel on the lonestar is bad at all
alexh889 3 years ago
Let us know when you are ready to pick up this pedal. We will get you a great deal on it. Just mention the video.
Thanks!
PGS
ProGuitarShopDemos 3 years ago
Proguitarshop is amazing, i really appreciate the fact that they really read the comments on their videos and help the potencial costumers with their decisions!
And, as well, that's really good "upselling" right there hahaha
Chus666 2 years ago
niiiiiiiiiiiiice!
tony93666 3 years ago
AAAHHHHHH!!!!!!
It's like a cream dream in a pedal!
I have to get one!
CityOfFallenAngels 3 years ago
does this beast actually have that much sustain? or is it just his guitar or amp or something?
nickvanhalen 3 years ago
The Twin Tube Classic has plenty of sustain on its own. If you listen to the clean tone, there isn't any compression or added gain. With a Les Paul, you'll get a little more sustain. However, there is plenty of gain available for screaming single coils! Thanks,
-PGS
ProGuitarShopDemos 3 years ago
I've got a fever...
dejaflu 3 years ago
....a fever for more cowbell???
ruizpipo 3 years ago 3
Haha well...that too, I guess, but mostly cat scratch fever.
dejaflu 3 years ago
hahahhahahaha
leofender22 3 years ago