Beginning Wing Tsun Techniques : Practicing Wing Tsun on a Woo

[MrSilverfox333]

Nice moves, i pratice wooden dummy too and i'm always creating new techniques to try out.

[nguyenmonkey]

My friend told me he tried this and it hurts. Does it really? If it does i understand because i guess it would build the strength in your arms and hands? So is this suppose to hurt or bruise purposely?

[SereneFX]

Although you may be fast but you are hitting the dummy with your fist which is important than open palm.

[azetic]

The other reason that there are WC/WT/VT names, it is because besides different pronounciations and spellings ( Cantonese and Mandarin) in English, people also want to dintinguish and commercialize their MA systems, also people add their own understandings and interpretations on their MA systems. Same as in Karate, there are different styles (ryu). Everyone says that his style is the best, tests and time will prove. If you fail, don't blame whatever style you learn, but blame yourself.

[azetic]

WC/WT/VT are only different spellings of the same style of chinese MA. The different spellings are due to Cantonese and Mandarin pronounciation difference. People also want to use different spellings to distinguish and commercialize their MA system. Before Mr. Ip Man passed away, Wing Chun probably was the only one English spellings (Cantonese pronounciation). Wooden dummy training is not unique in WC, style like Choy Lei Fut, Seven Star Praying Mantis also have wooden dummy practice.

[azetic]

A teacher said that WC/WT/VT is considered to be a half soft , half hard martial art. WC is not as soft as Tai Chi etc. (soft style MA) , but not as hard as some hard style MA ( Choy Lei Fut ? Seven Star Praying Mantis?) WC/WT/VT all came from the same origin. Mr. Ip Man was the grand master in Hong Kong credited to the spread of WC started in 1950's . Different people uses different English pronounciation to distinguish and commercialize their WC system. In Chinese, the name is same.

[azetic]

"Speed " and " Hard Body Conditioning " are the very very last thing you want when training on the WC /WT/VT wooden dummy ! People are misled to believe that if you hit hard, hit fast, then you master the wooden dummy technique well.... Totally wrong ! you walk into the wrong path. It is the subtlety (subtle movements) of the body alignments, angles of body, foot works, entry technique, deflection and body, arm,hands, legs and centre line , intercept and attack co-ordination practice.

[pinoytouch81]

speed is key to win a fight no matter what martial art,then power comes in. having a good structure will give you more strength... but u might want to say that in front of his face and he'll most likely show you how much structure he has lol.

[aviationboy100]

Slow down bro! very nice though. You could kill someone with that rapid fire. :D

[nashorie]

well done dude

[Priyagoei]

Great videos! Thanks so much for showing us.

[Trixter003]

so.. u just follow the kung fu groove with that? hehe ?

help! i wanna learn badly!

[owner8515]

are u kidding me?! he is showing off more than teaching!

[siulamtau]

and i didn't mean it to sound bad, but it just seems so.....wacky i guess. i've seen ip ching and ip chun use the wooden dummy and it doesn't look half as crazy as this guy seems to get.

[siulamtau]

man he looks retarded when on the wooden dummy...haha

[wildvenisson]

@siulamtau its a form of hard body training, your bones are made of up of thousands of cells that, when broken by trauma, repair themselves and are made stronger by extra deposits of calcium. By using the wooden dummy it means his arms will genuinely become stronger. No matter how he looks if he punches you, you'll feel it.

[siulamtau]

@wildvenisson yes, i know this. but i just meant his overall form. it just plain lacks good kung fu.

[nightfire4107]

he's fast, but bad form. i've seen better wing chun

[Gunslinger800]

Dont want to give this guy to much of a hard time, but this looks really messy. Maybe its me, but i actually couldnt see any of the dummy forms here. It looked to me as if he was just making it up, throwing in the moves wherever he felt like. Check out the original 88mm video of ip man performing the dummy and tell me this isnt bad. He wasnt turning in his stance (as far as i could see) - and what looked like the Po pai section was also particularly bad.

[xtm951]

@Gunslinger800 you know that most martial arts coriography doesn't use real kung fu because not all real kung fu looks good on film...

[Gunslinger800]

@xtm951 Hi. Sorry im not really sure what you mean. All i meant with my comment was that this guy in the video is claiming to demonstrate the Wing Chun dummy forms. He doesnt seem to be doing that, and his footwork isn't fantastic either. Surely if this guy is making educational videos teaching people wing chun he should actually do wing chun?

[xtm951]

@Gunslinger800 nvm, if you can't understand my first statement, obviously your brain cannot comprehend the words your are reading as of now.

[Gunslinger800]

@xtm951 Mate, theres no need to get childish! Obviously i understand the words, what im saying is the your not making much sense. You say this is choreography, fair enough. Im just saying it looks as if hes made this up since hes not performing the actual forms which is pretty shitty when hes supposed to be showing people how to do wing chun.

[Gunslinger800]

@xtm951 Your saying this was choreography intended was to make his dummy form look better on film? Well, he has to know this video is going to attract the attention of people who do the art, plus this is supposed to be about teaching people who would like to do WC what the art is all about. With that in mind, surely he should just to the forms rather then this. Unless, he doesnt know the forms.

[xtm951]

@Gunslinger800 NVM, god damnit. LOOK, if your gonna talk to me, type NORMALLY. not fucken paragraphs...

[Gunslinger800]

@xtm951 Sorry mate, obviously you brain cant comprehend the words. Damn it. Next time ill make an effort to simplify if for you.

[xtm951]

@Gunslinger800 cool story, bro

[Gunslinger800]

@xtm951 Thanks mate. 

[jamira66]

WING TSUN is the best martial art ever, good for girls too, I bet everyone to fight with me and be sure I will hurt if I want, I am a Wing Tsun girl student and I had my good results... so do not talk if you don't know that Wing Tsun is...

[Beastmast3r5254]

Alright, 3 questions, if I get a wing chun dummy, where can I get one, how much does it usually cost, and to get it to hold still when I hit it, do I NEED a rack like the one he has here? Or is it not required to make it stable?

[Mishima898]

At the end of the day he is showing you a taste of Yong Chun, however as a newcomer to Yong Chun I don't find this video particularly helpful because all is doing here is showing off that he can hit the targets fast.

Real martial arts is not about what master you trained with or going to train with, who got rejected from which school etc. Martial arts is a way of life; attitude, respect in all matters of life, if do Yong chun to show off you will never understand the true meaning.

[BrutalToothFZR1]

This guy looks super gay slapping the wood. I am guessing he knows all about wood too....

[zipdrive011]

With dedicated training, his techniques will developed from blunt to sharp and his circles will get smaller and smaller. With pondering, his moves will be more sensitive!

[Thedingen]

you are fast..

[Daroga1]

I would like to learn this Style because it incorporates Palm Strikes, which is a great fighting stlye

[sihingmark]

sad. My sifu had issues with him over 10 years ago with his crap. nothing has changed. keanu reeves wannabe. he was rejected as a student by Sigung Chan. dont belive me?? look at his web page. he still has pictures up like he was accepted. sorry negative. Sigung Chan was the lead interpreter and head representative. sorry if I seem like im being rude, but this guy needs to take down his banner. period!!

[GermanAirsoftSniper]

daaamn!

yeah basically wing chun is just all about speed and not giving your opponent the chance to defend or anything. just everything about : everything away from your center, defend and attack, bring him to the floor and paralize!

i do it since i'm 16 and its awesome when your little brother wants to hit you or something!XDDD i think its the most effective and controlled style of martial arts! 1000 points for the master here!^^

[synkronyk]

you're cluless then. This guy is shit.

[PollyX5]

@synkronyk

Based on what prejudices do you conclude this? Please provide premisses & not just your uninformed opinion, then people might actually learn from your superiority.

[SuckkerFree215]

You sure showed that dummy who is boss!

[Dungarth]

Wing Chun is good for improving speed and co-ordination, but don't rely on it in a real fighting situation

In a real fighting situation you are better off learning Sanda/Sanshou and Muay Thai.

[rAFiCoRe]

since when is the wooden dummy called woo?

[Fupper16]

this taught me nothing ...

[Alex96712964]

dude u are so good .. I wish i could go lessons and teach me that tecknique . Unfortunately my dad dont let me to go because he think i will leave with broken face ...

[velociti85]

ha ha ha ha ha ha this guy has no technique he is fast yes but he isnt doin it right just watching the way his hands move he is making stuff up there are alot of posers out there this is one of them stick with the teachings of master IP man

[PollyX5]

@velociti85

Well, he isn't walking a kata, if that is what you require for a technique to seem 'right'.

[hulkout666]

@velociti85 A sure way to spot a Wing Chun bullshitter is to watch his hips and how he steps. This guy's hips are inwards. In that position, your structure sucks. You must maintain a pelvic tilt for the proper power and rooting His stepping also sucks. When you step, you should not bounce up and down like that. You should maintain the same level and actually sink a bit when you attack. I don't even need to see his hands. The waist down tells the whole story!

[freesoul299]

Yeh dude u got a nice speed, but for God sake buy a new dummy, coz this one makes alot of noise !!

[wkiddot]

Maybe the worst dummy form I ever seen... Why is he in such a hurry and there is no power what so ever

[Joneshing]

I agree with P22 in that, this guy's pronunciation and form are sloppy, but dismissing a style like wing chun as "making no logistical sense" is a huge generalization that shows P22 doesn't know what he's talking about, and like many people has a bias for the style he does. And if you want to talk about any style thats choreographed, any style with forms is essentially choreographed, its how you extract the techniques that counts.

[P22sh00ter]

completely pointless mcdojo bullshit.

[seaponk]

i wanna see you fight this guy

[P22sh00ter]

ok? some of us actually practice a worthwhile fighting style. Choreographed hand motions that make no real logistical sense aren't going to help anyone in a fight.

[seaponk]

i dont think that is coreographed. he does what he wants to do, blocks what he wants to block. and i still want to see you fighting this guy

[musicispower84]

I know, right? So many people talk shit on this thing and what they dont know is that if they really try to fuck with this kat, they'd get handled like nothing. This guy seems like the real deal. I'd love to learn from him. He's like Keanu Reeves with muscles and actual wing chun skill.

[bigfatdick5000]

any subject that reaches a segment for show on expertvillage, you know it has become too popular....

[pokemonmage4]

How much does it cost to buy a wooden thing? i want to practice.

[nightfire4107]

$800-$1000 Expensive!

[SuperNinja2000]

high end is like 1500 for a free standing, and about 800 with out a stand.

[musicispower84]

Shit! That's expensive.... But if I was a passionate Wing Chun practitioner and I was really good, like not necessarily black sash skill, but decent, I'd spend the money.

[seaponk]

i think you could try to build one

[emamally]

THANKS FOR SHARING

[willstemichrollen]

He is fast but i can't say that he has got structure.

[PollyX5]

@willstemichrollen

? This isn't actual beginners technique. Perhaps it requires a trained eye to see what you don't ?

[Cineczek1500100900]

@willstemichrollen That's right because the mainly idea of Mook yan Chong is the build of structure of your body, and that's the way you are totality

[bout2layitout]

superman

[simbenghweeroy]

i hope i can have that dummy at home.........

[elharto]

wow wicked skill man I hope I can be as good as that on the dummy someday.

[SWEETO117]

very good deflection but very poor striking techniquie.

[DarknessPrey]

if u dont have a woo, what else can u use?

[MikeTheQuiver]

Maybe, if you cut a tree...So it will have the same priority it may work?

[martyn500]

SO many of these videos on Martial arts have negative comments about them.

People just love to critisise.

If you can do better, then make a video series yourself.

[TheBull2241]

@martyn500

I support what you said 1000%

[m049980]

all the kicks are missing from the wooden dummy.

[regondi]

He's just demonstrating not running the form.

[k3vin00123]

show off >.>

[STEPHENPOH8888]

punch so fast how can learn?

[wolfsaiga]

well u watch the other videos, this video is like the final completion of ur knowledge, truthfuly only thing u would like to learn from this tipe of fighting would be the blocks, well its my own preference cuz i prefer gentle hand technique over rough attacks, so no punching for my with knuckles

[kingwong2005]

COOL !

[zigzagzig40]

If i ever win the lottery i will spend my time training with top Wing Tsun teachers around the world...I think i just witnessed one of these great teachers in action

[notjustastoner]

lol

[Volgeblanc]

Mook Yan Chong is an excellent training device for the arms and for the close-range kicking techniques. Can be practice at different speeds and blindfolded for extra-sensitivity training.However, one must be cautious about using it for "toughening" the arms or using full knuckle punches. This is just a regular execution. Nothing extraordinary.

[mpopeube]

That was the best wooden dummy form demonstration I've ever seen, but I am only a beginner, and I've only seen one by Yip Man, and one by Dunn Wha, a Moy Yat student. The speed witnessed visually here, and from the rapping sounds of the wooden arms let me understand how useful techniques used in this rapid performance would be at disabling an attacker within kicking, punching and elbowing range.

[urfaceismessed]

your good

[anthonyr1]

you're wrong...he's fast..speed does not equal proficiency, in fact it demonstrates the opposite

[regondi]

and how do you figure that? Speed is the result of thorough understanding, which comes from slow practice.  So please tell me how your comment makes any sense.

[anthonyr1]

anyone can do something fast...doesn't nessicarily mean it will be technically sound...I do agree with you, but his comment of being good because he's fast is off the mark in my estimation...