@ibrahimdesign word by word, I can't do, but I know it in english off by heart: Oh king of peace, grant us your peace confirm to us your peace and forgive us our sins/disperse the enemies of the church and fortify her to be unshakeable forever/emmanuel our god is among us now in his father's glory and the holy spirit/may he bless us all and purify our hearts and heal the sicknesses of our souls and bodies/we worship you oh Christ with your good father and the holy spirit forhaverisenandsavedus.
i know the daughter of an coptic priest. her family is one of the rare who kept the coptic tradition.
they speak it fluently. because i think there will be never again such a oppurtunity i just started to learn reading coptic and a little vocabulary from her :)
O King of Peace; Give us your peace Confirm your peace and forgive us our sins. Disperse churches enemies And fortify it and strengthen it Forever. Emmanuel our God; Now in our midst; In all His fathers glory; And the Holy Spirit. May he Bless us all, Purify our hearts; And heal the illness Of our bodies and souls. We worship you O Christ; With your gracious Father, and The Holy Spirit; For you have risen and saved us!
Wait, this is in Coptic? As in the ancient Coptic language of Egypt?? Wow! I assumed most Copts chanted their hymns in the pagan tongue of the Greeks.
@YemeniteChanter There's no such thing as a "pagan tongue." That said, after the dispute over Chalcedon a lot of anti-Greek sentiment arose in the Coptic church.
Perhaps I maybe mistaken, but do Coptics actually read and chant in the Coptic (language)? Because I assumed since Copts belonged to the Orthodox Church - they'd have to read in the Greek tongue. Thanks.
Orthodoxy is not inseparably tied to the Greek language. In the case of Egypt, it's a little confusing- there are two churches calling themselves "Orthodox", not in communion with each other: the anti-Chalcedonian Coptic church (which most Copts belong to) and the Chalcedonian Greek Orthodox Church. Both groups use multiple languages, depending on the territory. The Copts came to associate Greek with Byzantine imperialism and emphasized their Egyptian identity more.
I see. Great information and interesting info! So, if the 10 million Coptic-strong Christians in Egypt belong to either the Chalcedonian and anti-Chalcedonian churches, then I take it that the anti-Chalcedonian Coptics are the ones who conduct their services in Coptic (or Bohairic Egyptian)? And is the Orthodox Coptic Church of Alexandria more in line with the anti-Chalcedonian church?
@YemeniteChanter Yes, the Coptic Church is anti-Chalcedonian- they trace their line of Popes down to Dioscorus, whom they venerate as a saint, along with Severus of Antioch. The Chalcedonian Greek Orthodox Church is much smaller. Most of its membership is Arab Egyptian but I don't think they usually identify themselves as Copts. Both churches have missions throughout Africa which use various local languages.
@YemeniteChanter We chant the hymns in coptic, but many parts of the liturgy and other services are done in the native tongue. For example, in Egypt they pray in coptic and arabic, in canada we pray in english, coptic and arabic.
@albertcorn This Hymn is sung on Feasts in the at the same time the bread which will become the Eucharist comes into the Church and the Alter.. and it is also sung in weddings when the Bride and Groom come in.
This is the language of Egypt. This language belongs to all Egyptians regardless of the religion aspect. It is the language spoken by their ancestors for 1000 years. The work Copt originate from the Greek Agypto. Most of Egyptians were Christians, and overtime, it was used to refer to specifically the Christians of Egypt. God Bless Egyptians Christians and Moslems, they are all Copts!
Coptic chant is beautiful and a wonderful tool of evangelization. Imagine how much more powerful it could be in a fully unified, catholic, Church! Ut unum sint!
@hetismij21 I lived in Egypt for a year. Being a 20% minority in Egypt against both a majority Islamic population AND Islamic regime gives us Coptic Christians little room to denounce anything. Tight policies by the government regarding building churches, Islam being pronounced strongly in metros, echoing from the thousands of mosques five times everyday, taunts in the street are all things that Christians must consider there before speaking up. We will get there ;-).
god help us from the people who try to destroy our coptic nation. we will not give up and no one can scare us, for what do we have to be afraid of with jesus christ.
The followers of Islam who are slaughtering Christians in Somalia and it is only the Islamic faith which continues to kill apostates. Therefore, you had mass coverage about a pastor who was going to burn the Koran but you have a virtual silence about the annihilation of Christianity in Somalia and the burning of Bibles in Pakistan.
It appears that killing Christians in Somalia and burning Bibles in Pakistan is fine because we must not upset the religion of Islam.
Lyrics: Epouro enteti hirini moynan entek hirini semni nan entek hirini kanen novi nan evol gorh evol enni gaji enteti ekekleseya ari soft eros enneskem sha-eneh emmanoeel pennoti khen tenmeeti tino khen ep-oo ente peviot nem pi epnevma ethowab entefesmo eron tiren entef tovo ennen heet entev talet sho enni sho ni ente nen epsishi nem nen soma ten ho-osht emmok o pi ekhrestos nem pekyot en aghathos nem pi epnevma ethowab je ak (ee/tonk/masf/ashk) aksoti emmon
yeah right, you muslims should be happy cause it was you who killed our culture, our religion, language and our people! thanks to u copts are second hand sitizans in our own land!
Brothers and sisters u can now learn coptic as a everyday language not just a luturgic language, we have a yahoo and a facebook group, coptic fonts for yahoo and messenger and many courses with grammers and words :) anouk ou rem en kimi pe,
God Bless the Copts and their resistance to the obvious oppressor. Regards from your Orthodox brothers in Europe and may we one day find ourselves rejoicing together.
may God bless You all and inlight you 2 the right way !
Finaly we all Brothers, i hope you succsed to take you Rights of beleving ex. in the Egypt..those extremists are the first enemys of any things existing and they talk in our names..
You are a very classy individual, if more mouslems were more like you, the arab world will on today's map. Consider yourself blessed by the almighty for the wisdom and kind heart he had grant you to speak like that.
Emmanuel our God is now in our midst, with the glory of His Father and the Holy Spirit. May He bless us, purify our hearts, and heal the sickness of our souls and bodies. we worship You O Christ, with Your Good Father, and the Holy Spirit, for You have (come) and saved us
this is not about any pride !! you are monophisites !! long live Dioscor , Sever m and Eutichius !! may Saint Euphemya enlighten your minds to return to orthodoxy
we are not monophisites at all , we fully believe in the double nature of christ, by the way , i was told by one of the highest greek clergy men, that we are fully orthodox, it was a problem of semantics in the 4 th century to make believe wrongly that we are monphysists, by the way it is our people egyptians who gave refuge to christ and the holy family, please stop judging others, and do not forget that we are the first big country to be christians in history,"BLESSED BE EGYPT MY PEOPLE"bible
One small catch. If you are Orhodox you dont believe in the double Nature of Christ. You believe in the Holy Trinity of God. After all "his divinity never separated from his humanity, not for a moment or the twinkling of an eye." Sound familiar. Its part of the ORTHODOX CEED.
Dude God still loves you and you will be saved if you are looking for God. Just read your koran more and you see for own self if its right or if its wrong.
YOU SHOULD READ IT AND THINK BEFORE YOU FOLLOW A CHILD MOLESTER. HERE IS PROOF IN YOUR OWN HOLY BOOKS.
'A'isha reported that Allah's Apostle married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house AS A BRIDE WHEN SHE WAS NINE, AND HER DOLLS WERE WITH HER; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311)
I did read it and not in english, Arabic. We both know the ENGLISH version is a little different then the TRUE version.
We dont have anything like that in our Bible. look brother i truly do love you and pray for all the people around the world. God is love . and he Loves all so we As CHRISTIANS also love all as well..
We DO NOT believe in the "double nature of Christ". We believe in one nature of Christ just as Saint Cyril and the other Holy Fathers at Ephesus taught.
We are indeed not heretics believing in one strictly divine nature, but the Council of Chalcedon was indeed heretical.
@Rahula we copts believe in two natures but not seperated from each other.
pls be precise when it comes to theology , if we believe in one nature, so we are monophysits, but we are not monphysists! i insist that we do not believe in two SEPARATED NATURES, but two natures united not separted from each other, we pray this in our mass-
@ramses0101 Ramses you are correct we Believe in the Human and the Divine Nature of Christ united without confusion or alteration in ONE WILL (or one Nature).
The One Nature St Cyril talks about is the One will, meaning the Humanity did not separate from the Divinity for a moment or twinkling of an eye; neither did the Divinity eat and over power the Human nature (Nestorian teaching) Neither did the Divinity descend on the human nature during baptism (arainsim).. the last 2 are heracies.
@Pharaoh714 Yeah, now explain that to the Athos monks who still call us monophysites and hold back their bretheren from uniting the Orthodox church. I wonder how our Lord and Master feels about that?! Lord have mercy on us!
@GhinainanEvNoti woow thanks for such a wonderful chant. Newer heaerd such chant. God bless you true cristians. Lord bless us all. You left me with no words
@GhinainanEvNoti no my friend, they do not call us monophysite any more, and i got this information from the higest hierarchy in the oeucomenic council in geneva, be more tolerant with our greek orthodox brothers
@ramses0101 | am tolerant brother, I have many Greek Orthodox friends... but the Athos monks are still a thorn in "Orthodoxy's side" as well as a community of theologians from the EO who are going against the grain... I know this b/c I've had many debates with them on youtube and many other blogs. It's always a few that ruin it for the many!
Why do we start these stupid arguments on youtube about what it means to really be orthodox or christian? Can we put our pride and arrogance away for a few minutes so that we can love our brothers and sisters in christ?
i am orthodox from Romania !! coptic religion is not the true orthodox religion , but monophisits !! your saints are : Dioscor and Sever !! Dioscor killed saint Flavian and you believe in him as a saint !! saint Euphimia made a miracle once , to show you that you are wrong !! return and not forget that miracle !! you don t recognise the syonds , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 and believe in a wrong hristology !!
We believe in one nature, but so did Saint Cyril and the First Council of Ephesus.
Also, your claim that Saint Dioscorus killed Flavian is totally bogus, given that there were writings issuing from him several months after the Second Council of Ephesus.
No, we don't believe in the 4th-7th Councils. That is not a bad thing because they were in fact heretical.
@Rahula all that was more political rather than theology! we consider greeks and all orthodox churches as orthododx , not heretical ! LONG LIFE ORTHODOXY!
No, it was theology. You are right that the faith expressed by the Byzantines in our ecumenical dialogues is essentially orthodox. However, that does not mean the same was the case with the Council of Chalcedon. It was indeed heretical.
@naeel6150 There was a schism in 451 over the Council of Chalcedon. Some Copts accepted the Council and joined the Orthodox churches, while others did not and remained with the Oriental Orthodox group of churches, in my view a more ancient tradition. God seems to like having different churches, because one church by itself can't see the whole truth. We need different perspectives, but we all love the same Lord Jesus Christ.
The vast majority of Copts remained Oriental Orthodox. Those who became Chalcedonian were few and were primarily Greeks who had some particular connection to the Empire.
@Rahula Thank you for adding this important detail. To me it is further evidence that the Holy Spirit kept this Church separate and unique for a purpose, just as he did with many other branches of the one Church.
@Rahula There is a joke I like to tell. Grandmother is at a parade, and says, "Oh, look! Little Johnny is the only one marching in step!" In the same way you or I believe our church is the best, maybe the only one, but we tend to overlook our own faults and then see everyone else's clearly. But there are many different churches who believe they are the Body of Christ. Their doctrine is sound. On a few points we disagree, but if we love the Lord Jesus Christ, that is the first, best thing.
@saftaromanul You seem ignorant, and that's why your account got deleted. Do not make statements about something which you do not know, but ask questions and we would LOVE to answer them!! Peace and love to you my brother!
Thank you, Naeel6115, for the great hymn you shared with us!
Ramoozini1099, according to the scientists (e.g. Andreevsky, 1884), invaders influenced but were mostly absorbed by the native etnicity. So, people living on the Egyptian territory are mostly descendents of the ancient Egyptians. The word "Copt" means "The Egyptian", so formally muslims can be copts as well. Simply, nowadays we used to call Egyptian Christians as Copts.
I have a question regarding Copts and Egyptians in general. Are the Egyptian Muslims of the same Ethnicity of the Egyptian Christians ? Or are they mostly the descendents of the Arabian Islamic invaders ?
Because alot of Muslims in Egypt say that they are also Copts who converted to Islam after the 7th century. I hope i will get the answer soon. GOD Bless.
Dear Ramoozini, Thanks for an outstanding reply to ALGFUNK.
Copt comes from the greek word Coptus which means CHRISTIAN. Copts were about 99% of the population in Egypt before the prosecution They have been prosecuted until this very day. Coptics (Christian egyptians) are 100% Egyptians. There might be small percentage that were forced to convert to Islam during the Jezya time and thats why they became Muslims who could be from coptic Heritage. Egypt has and always will be a Christian Land.
Correction: Coptic means Egyptian, not Christian. So even the Muslim Egyptian is a Coptic. But they have a higher chance of having some Arab in them. But the Christian Coptic has a very high chance of being pure Egyptian!
@Ramoozini1099 Hi, yes Muslim egyptian are mixed with arabs, wheareas Coptic or even jewish(they were in Alexendria for the most, convert after Moussa.)are descent from Pharaonic civilisation.There is a video wich explain better than me if you want it! Sorry english isn t my first language
Oh your Allah prays on Mohammad daily LOOL. Thank God i know Islam like the back of my hand.
And also most of the stories concerning Jesus Christ in the Koran were taken directly from the Gnostic Gospels the ones that were not Cannonized , for example the Infancy Gospel of Thomas and the Protovangilian of Mary , the story of Jesus Christ creating Birds from clay in the KORAN is mentioned in the Infancy Gospel of Thomas hahaha. The Koran came with nothing new.
Thank you sir for replying to me. Most of the time i can't tell the difference between and Egyptian Christian and an Egyptian Muslim , because both look very Very similar ! The only time i can tell that one is Christian and one is muslim is by the names they have.
I think most Egyptian Muslims are of the same ethnicity as Egyptian Christians , but The Jizya made alot of Christians convert to Islam unfortuantely.
yes but some egyptian muslims have arab ancestary since muslims are allowed to marry other muslims while the copts have no arab blood wat so ever since its forbidden to marry anyone else at the tym that wasnt coptic orthodox but this is only 10 % of the population
Its not enough that Islam and Muslims cause problems and make life a living hell in every country they go and destroy every civilization and language they reach, but also have to defile and ruin this wall !
To this Algofink whatever his name is , JESUS CHRIST is God in the Flesh God from God light from light True God from True God ! Even though God revealed himself in the pure person of Jesus Christ , God was not limited in Christ ! God is everywhere and is all powerful and unlimited.
ALGfunk. Jesus Christ is God and took flesh to save humanity. It is not at all "IDIOTIC" to believe your listing. It is true and Christians accept this. Christ had to take on every aspect of our humanity (while still retaining his Divinity) in order to save us. And your ranting on Christianity only proves the insecurity you have of your own religion. You will get no one converted to Islam if you keep condemning others and promoting violence. May God forgive you for your unjust criticisms.
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I dont care what anybody says about ISLAM. It has to be sent from ALLAH! Mohammed must be the TRUE prophet! After all he married a 9 year old girl to save her. Not only that, but ISLAM teaches us to SAVE non believers. Look at Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam. (can you feel the sarcastic vibe?)
Bro . . to save a 9 year old by marrying her . . to having sex with a 9 year old. he could of taking her in as his daughter that sounds like saving her, regardless bro God nows everyones heart and if your a Good person with a Loving heart God will open your eyes. God bless you habibii
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You speak so "loving." Its very unlike what your child loving prophet Mohammed teaches.
Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah
Bro . . Explain to me how is there any love there. killing is not love at all. jews or any other sort of people. just look this wont hurt at all.. do this.. you wont lose nothing... while you pray .. either at night or in the morning .. Ask God Jesus to give you a sign . . ask him with your heart and soul and with all your mind . . and i grantee you you''ll get one. God bless habibii.
dear sir, i would be gratefull if you do not add coments here, it is a not a discussion here, it is a prayer. thank you for your understanding. lakom dinakom wa lana dinana.
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i'll tell u why muslims SHOULD NOT become "christians" since its IDIOTIC to believe God, is a human who was: -killed -stripped bear naked -spat one -came out of a vagina -used the toilette -ate for maintaining health -slept for rest Jesus is MERELY A PROPHET. Read that in ur bible. OH WAIT u have TONS. Read the OLD testament where Jesus says GOD IS ONE and that HE IS NOT god But ur new testament CHANGED all that. U can't even know ur own RELIGIOUS HISTORY
Wonderful Hymn. Actually this particular tune had been used by the Ancient Egyptians when they received their Pharaohs. When Egypt accept Christ and converted to Christianity. Most of the Ancient Egyptian Music was given Christian lyrics, and thus many beautifyl Ancient tunes have survived in the music of the Coptic Church - Adam
hello adam, where did you get this information? can you tell me about a book or a website about that? i thought it was the melodies in ancient temples!
I heard that the Coptic Christians adapted many elements from the ancient Pharaonic Egyptian traditions, but couldn't really confirm whether it was true.
That's what my " research " basically shows. The Coptic church basically Christianized the religion / cult of Osiris, Isis, & Horus ( Wsir, Aset, Heru - er ).
yes, but not only coptic church, early christianity. For example also in the thracian church. IN early Orphism Osiris and Dionisus, the Thracian god is same person...
There is connection too. Persian Empire were in connection with the Judaism, Oprhism (Alexander the Great asked the Oracle in Perperek, the ancient Thracian City of Orphism, later christian). But this all is because all have Common Begining. But for me the most pure and preserved concepts are in the early Christian Mysticism.
Some people have even gone so far as to say that Jesus' teachings ( Sermon on the Mount, Beatitudes, Parables ) were tinged by Hindu - Buddhist thought brought by merchants & travelers from India & the East, that they influenced early Christianity, too. The early Church supposedly believed in reincarnation. I have at least 2 books about " Missing Christianity ".
& a lot of Buddhists believe that Jesus is / was a " Boddhisatva ", an enlightened being who renounced Nirvana to come back & bring others to enlightenment. Not what I believe, personally, but I'm just quoting losely from their sources.
Coptic church is one of the oldest churchs in the world. It was established by St Mark the Apostle in the 1st Century. The Copts kept the same traditions, teachings,books and even hymns until this very day. They did not adopt any other religions in their church or any old religions such as Isis or Horus and Defiantly does not have any relationship with Buddhist teachings or Hindus. All their sources come from The Holy Bible
I certainly didn't intend any disrespect or offense. But I have read some very informed, " learned " sources in books & on the Internet that state that the Coptic church DID take ancient Egyptian myths from the cults of the gods & goddesses of the Pharaohs & nobles, & adapted them to the Gospel accounts in the Bible. It's called syncretism.
hahah no no i didnt mean to be soo defensive anyways. But I am coptic myself and there isnt anything we believe that isnt from the bible. Everything taught in our church including the Bible are from the old teachings of St Mark.
I love Coptic hymns. If I could forget English and learn Coptic as my main language I would. LONG LIVE COPTIC +
jellywafleproduction 2 weeks ago
i wonder what coptic would sound like if it wasnt spoken in an Egyptian Arabic accent.. xD
Lissou58 1 month ago
Beautiful! I'm a Catholic (Latin-Rite) seminarian, but I absolutely love the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox liturgies and hymns!
jedi1991 1 month ago
SERBIA SUPPORTED AND LOVE ORTHODOX COPTIC BROTHERS!
+ C C C C +
MegaMikss 2 months ago 3
END COPTIC PERSECUTION IN EGYPT. Peace!
Operaandchant90 3 months ago
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ameen brother
CopticArab 2 months ago
peace and love from your armenian brother in christ we will keep Christianity alive until the return of our lord
khamodaz 4 months ago
@ibrahimdesign ربنا يخليك god bless you :)
123apie 5 months ago
this is MAGNIFICENT.
does anyone have a word-by-word translation?
much love to my coptic brothers and sisters from a muslim egyptian.
muslim or christian: we're all egyptian!!! :)
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B3A5TMUPPET 4 months ago
@ibrahimdesign word by word, I can't do, but I know it in english off by heart: Oh king of peace, grant us your peace confirm to us your peace and forgive us our sins/disperse the enemies of the church and fortify her to be unshakeable forever/emmanuel our god is among us now in his father's glory and the holy spirit/may he bless us all and purify our hearts and heal the sicknesses of our souls and bodies/we worship you oh Christ with your good father and the holy spirit forhaverisenandsavedus.
wobblywindow 4 months ago
so beautiful IM PROUD TO BE A COPTIC!
123apie 6 months ago 16
@PETE1DUDE
i know the daughter of an coptic priest. her family is one of the rare who kept the coptic tradition.
they speak it fluently. because i think there will be never again such a oppurtunity i just started to learn reading coptic and a little vocabulary from her :)
BakinKoljac 6 months ago 2
wellaww 7 months ago
HELP THE COPTS! I PRAY FOR THEM!
ThaTruthSpeaker 8 months ago 3
LOVE
Loonygirl23 9 months ago
Beautiful hymnic singing--many thanks. It is inspiring that you continue to pray to God in Coptic language with these beautiful melodies.
KSudbury 11 months ago
Wait, this is in Coptic? As in the ancient Coptic language of Egypt?? Wow! I assumed most Copts chanted their hymns in the pagan tongue of the Greeks.
YemeniteChanter 11 months ago
@YemeniteChanter There's no such thing as a "pagan tongue." That said, after the dispute over Chalcedon a lot of anti-Greek sentiment arose in the Coptic church.
Cherubicon 11 months ago
@Cherubicon
Perhaps I maybe mistaken, but do Coptics actually read and chant in the Coptic (language)? Because I assumed since Copts belonged to the Orthodox Church - they'd have to read in the Greek tongue. Thanks.
YemeniteChanter 11 months ago
@YemeniteChanter
Orthodoxy is not inseparably tied to the Greek language. In the case of Egypt, it's a little confusing- there are two churches calling themselves "Orthodox", not in communion with each other: the anti-Chalcedonian Coptic church (which most Copts belong to) and the Chalcedonian Greek Orthodox Church. Both groups use multiple languages, depending on the territory. The Copts came to associate Greek with Byzantine imperialism and emphasized their Egyptian identity more.
Cherubicon 11 months ago
@Cherubicon
I see. Great information and interesting info! So, if the 10 million Coptic-strong Christians in Egypt belong to either the Chalcedonian and anti-Chalcedonian churches, then I take it that the anti-Chalcedonian Coptics are the ones who conduct their services in Coptic (or Bohairic Egyptian)? And is the Orthodox Coptic Church of Alexandria more in line with the anti-Chalcedonian church?
YemeniteChanter 11 months ago
@YemeniteChanter Yes, the Coptic Church is anti-Chalcedonian- they trace their line of Popes down to Dioscorus, whom they venerate as a saint, along with Severus of Antioch. The Chalcedonian Greek Orthodox Church is much smaller. Most of its membership is Arab Egyptian but I don't think they usually identify themselves as Copts. Both churches have missions throughout Africa which use various local languages.
Cherubicon 11 months ago
@YemeniteChanter We chant the hymns in coptic, but many parts of the liturgy and other services are done in the native tongue. For example, in Egypt they pray in coptic and arabic, in canada we pray in english, coptic and arabic.
marksoccer100 8 months ago 2
@YemeniteChanter greeks are not pagans for us , they are the light and the pride of orthodoxy!
ramses0101 10 months ago
a question, when do they sing this hymn in mass ? I am just trying to understand the place of the hymn in liturgy
albertcorn 11 months ago
@albertcorn This Hymn is sung on Feasts in the at the same time the bread which will become the Eucharist comes into the Church and the Alter.. and it is also sung in weddings when the Bride and Groom come in.
Pharaoh714 10 months ago
This is the language of Egypt. This language belongs to all Egyptians regardless of the religion aspect. It is the language spoken by their ancestors for 1000 years. The work Copt originate from the Greek Agypto. Most of Egyptians were Christians, and overtime, it was used to refer to specifically the Christians of Egypt. God Bless Egyptians Christians and Moslems, they are all Copts!
zaky2000 1 year ago 2
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this is amazing, also people check out my page i am a copt and i made a poem for the bombings that happened in alexandria
slyda92 1 year ago
Coptic chant is beautiful and a wonderful tool of evangelization. Imagine how much more powerful it could be in a fully unified, catholic, Church! Ut unum sint!
MeanEyedCats 1 year ago
We cant even replace a toilet seat without permission from the dictator.
emekonen 1 year ago
As close to Ancient Egypt as you can get !
fsalib 1 year ago
How beautiful is our language and faith !
fsalib 1 year ago
@hetismij21 I lived in Egypt for a year. Being a 20% minority in Egypt against both a majority Islamic population AND Islamic regime gives us Coptic Christians little room to denounce anything. Tight policies by the government regarding building churches, Islam being pronounced strongly in metros, echoing from the thousands of mosques five times everyday, taunts in the street are all things that Christians must consider there before speaking up. We will get there ;-).
hfarrell4138 1 year ago
god help us from the people who try to destroy our coptic nation. we will not give up and no one can scare us, for what do we have to be afraid of with jesus christ.
thenoobscape1 1 year ago 3
this is one of my favorite hymns along with ekesmaroot and the hiten or intercession hymns
coptic25love 1 year ago
A Gift to my coptic friends :)
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IlluminatiFromSatan 1 year ago
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christ prince of peace , have mercy on us
ramses0101 1 year ago
I love this la7n, Thank you for the post!
egyptianfaro 1 year ago 4
this is our language wake up egyption
arsanyful 1 year ago
O King of peace, grant us Your peace. Bestow unto us Your peace, and forgive us our sins.
Disperse the enemies of the Church, and with Your might, establish her forever.
Emmanuel our God is now in our midst, with the glory of His Father and the Holy Spirit.
May He bless us all and sanctify our hearts, and heal the sicknesses of our souls and bodies.
We worship you O Christ, with Your Good Father and the Holy Spirit, for You have come and saved us.
mauiforme 1 year ago
can any one translate this coptic prayer?
faerygyrl16 1 year ago
The followers of Islam who are slaughtering Christians in Somalia and it is only the Islamic faith which continues to kill apostates. Therefore, you had mass coverage about a pastor who was going to burn the Koran but you have a virtual silence about the annihilation of Christianity in Somalia and the burning of Bibles in Pakistan.
It appears that killing Christians in Somalia and burning Bibles in Pakistan is fine because we must not upset the religion of Islam.
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miladmeah 1 year ago 2
lyrics in polish
Królu pokoju, daj nam swój pokój i odpuść nam nasze grzechy.
Oddal nieprzyjaciół Kościoła i chroń go, aby nie ustawał.
Emmanuelu, nasz Boże, jesteś pośrodku nas w chwale Ojca i Ducha Świętego.
Pobłogosław, oczyść nasze serca i uzdrów choroby duszy i ciała.
Adorujemy Cię, Chryste, z Twoim dobrym Ojcem i Duchem Świętym, ponieważ przybyłeś i zbawiłeś nas.
ashrafbenyamin 1 year ago
mauiforme 1 year ago
<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3 MY FAVORITE HYMN OF ALL TIME!!
heaven281 1 year ago 2
"Blessed be Egypt my people"
Sinai83 1 year ago 11
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thank you for posting! It is a beautiful piece of music!
lordmurraycl 1 year ago
thank you for posting! It is a beautiful piece of music!
lordmurraycl 1 year ago 2
thank you for posting! It is a beautiful piece of music!
lordmurraycl 1 year ago
Worship Jesus!! don't worship our religious practice!!
Worship Jesus in Spirit and in truth..
Jesus loves us
dvdeaglewings 1 year ago
yeah right, you muslims should be happy cause it was you who killed our culture, our religion, language and our people! thanks to u copts are second hand sitizans in our own land!
esm el salib
egyptafrican 1 year ago
i love this hymn thank you ! please upload more with lyrics too :)
egygurl13 1 year ago
It's so woderful listen the coptic hymns...faith and resistance...God bless you all !God bless Egypt!
vainelson 1 year ago
Brothers and sisters u can now learn coptic as a everyday language not just a luturgic language, we have a yahoo and a facebook group, coptic fonts for yahoo and messenger and many courses with grammers and words :) anouk ou rem en kimi pe,
god bless
egyptafrican 1 year ago
@egyptafrican can you please tell me what to do to learn that? i dont have a facebook...
egygurl13 1 year ago
@egygurl13
u can add my msn and i will give u all the instructions
bonnah@live.se
egyptafrican 1 year ago
God Bless the Copts and their resistance to the obvious oppressor. Regards from your Orthodox brothers in Europe and may we one day find ourselves rejoicing together.
kosovoischristian 1 year ago 5
@kosovoischristian
Amen brother.
dogameel84 1 year ago
im a serb, living in germany.
and im learning coptic :)
BakinKoljac 1 year ago 7
i'am an algerian muslims i thank god coz the coptic language still exist please prserve it it define you peace
takina2500 1 year ago 8
Ibrahim Ayad is a wonderful cantor! thank you for posting this, God bless you! peace of Christ to Egypt!
graceinmay 1 year ago
I think the coptic language should be taught to all Egyptians as a second language!
Metadonek 1 year ago 3
Salams from a muslim :)
ya Yashua massi
SHAHINCLAAT 2 years ago 40
I'm a muslim and I'm happy you guys kept the ancient language alive.
brainformuscle 2 years ago 83
@brainformuscle
Muslims tried to destroy this beautiful language.
This is real Egypt.
dogameel84 1 year ago 5
@brainformuscle I'm not Muslim and I wonder why you do not go out there and denounce violence against your people?
hetismij21 1 year ago
@hetismij21 if u mean by denounce as to tell the wrld, then check th news we had atlest 20 strikes all over the wrld.
thenoobscape1 1 year ago
@brainformuscle Oh thanks for cutting our tongues out.
emekonen 11 months ago
@brainformuscle THAN PROTECT THEM!
ThaTruthSpeaker 8 months ago
I'm a Christian/Baptist and this Hymn is fantastic. I love the feel of it.
Please more Coptic hymns!
ronoman88 2 years ago 6
i love this pray sooooo much i listen to it every day its make me happy
jucie3 2 years ago 3
I'am a Moslim but I like this Prayer realy !!
may God bless You all and inlight you 2 the right way !
Finaly we all Brothers, i hope you succsed to take you Rights of beleving ex. in the Egypt..those extremists are the first enemys of any things existing and they talk in our names..
Happy Christmas to U all from Tunisia
MagnetiQs 2 years ago 7
@MagnetiQs i love your coment brother god bless you
jucie3 2 years ago 3
@jucie3 An d You too, thank You so much :-)
MagnetiQs 2 years ago
@MagnetiQs :)
jucie3 2 years ago
Allilouia! SALAM!!!
phati129 2 years ago
You are a very classy individual, if more mouslems were more like you, the arab world will on today's map. Consider yourself blessed by the almighty for the wisdom and kind heart he had grant you to speak like that.
your coptic egyptian brother, Nabil
salib27 1 year ago 3
O King of peace, grant us Your peace. Bestow unto us Your peace, and forgive us our sins.
Scatter the enemies of the Church, and with Your might, establish her forever.
Emmanuel our God is now in our midst, with the glory of His Father and the Holy Spirit.
May He bless us all and sanctify our hearts, and heal the sicknesses of our souls and bodies.
We worship you O Christ, with Your Good Father and the Holy Spirit, for You have come and saved us.
ramses0101 2 years ago
and here is a translation for epouro:
O King of peace,
grant us Your peace,
confirm Your peace unto us,
and forgive us our sins.
Scatter the enemies
of the Church,
fortify her stronghold
that She may never be shaken
ramses0101 2 years ago
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ramses0101 2 years ago
shokran ya yasou3 3ala ne3mat al massihia
ramses0101 2 years ago
great hymn.. lov ibrahims voice
egypt0123 2 years ago
blessed be our coptic orthodox church, power of the cross of christ
ramses0101 2 years ago
Ik woon nu al 16jaar in nederland en ben geboren in Egypte!
Het woord daar steeds moeilijker voor de coptische bevolking om te leven !:(
Insha'allah komt alles goed !
Peace from Holland to al the coptics and al the another christ!
And Peace to EGYPT!
Smoeziee1 2 years ago
this is not about any pride !! you are monophisites !! long live Dioscor , Sever m and Eutichius !! may Saint Euphemya enlighten your minds to return to orthodoxy
saftaromanul 2 years ago
we are not monophisites at all , we fully believe in the double nature of christ, by the way , i was told by one of the highest greek clergy men, that we are fully orthodox, it was a problem of semantics in the 4 th century to make believe wrongly that we are monphysists, by the way it is our people egyptians who gave refuge to christ and the holy family, please stop judging others, and do not forget that we are the first big country to be christians in history,"BLESSED BE EGYPT MY PEOPLE"bible
ramses0101 2 years ago 3
One small catch. If you are Orhodox you dont believe in the double Nature of Christ. You believe in the Holy Trinity of God. After all "his divinity never separated from his humanity, not for a moment or the twinkling of an eye." Sound familiar. Its part of the ORTHODOX CEED.
mumswording 2 years ago
Dude God still loves you and you will be saved if you are looking for God. Just read your koran more and you see for own self if its right or if its wrong.
cblock5555 2 years ago 3
YOU SHOULD READ IT AND THINK BEFORE YOU FOLLOW A CHILD MOLESTER. HERE IS PROOF IN YOUR OWN HOLY BOOKS.
'A'isha reported that Allah's Apostle married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house AS A BRIDE WHEN SHE WAS NINE, AND HER DOLLS WERE WITH HER; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311)
I did read it and not in english, Arabic. We both know the ENGLISH version is a little different then the TRUE version.
mumswording 2 years ago
We dont have anything like that in our Bible. look brother i truly do love you and pray for all the people around the world. God is love . and he Loves all so we As CHRISTIANS also love all as well..
cblock5555 2 years ago 2
@mumswording
That's part of the Coptic Liturgy, not the Nicene Creed.
Rahula 1 year ago
@ramses0101
We DO NOT believe in the "double nature of Christ". We believe in one nature of Christ just as Saint Cyril and the other Holy Fathers at Ephesus taught.
We are indeed not heretics believing in one strictly divine nature, but the Council of Chalcedon was indeed heretical.
Rahula 1 year ago
@Rahula of course we copts we believe on the double nature of christ, but not separated from each other! go nad ask a preast about this pls!
ramses0101 1 year ago
@ramses0101
I have. I can send you testimony from a Coptic Priest which will tell you that we do not believe in two natures, if you would like?
Rahula 1 year ago
@Rahula we copts believe in two natures but not seperated from each other.
pls be precise when it comes to theology , if we believe in one nature, so we are monophysits, but we are not monphysists! i insist that we do not believe in two SEPARATED NATURES, but two natures united not separted from each other, we pray this in our mass-
god bless you
ramses0101 1 year ago
@ramses0101 Ramses you are correct we Believe in the Human and the Divine Nature of Christ united without confusion or alteration in ONE WILL (or one Nature).
The One Nature St Cyril talks about is the One will, meaning the Humanity did not separate from the Divinity for a moment or twinkling of an eye; neither did the Divinity eat and over power the Human nature (Nestorian teaching) Neither did the Divinity descend on the human nature during baptism (arainsim).. the last 2 are heracies.
Pharaoh714 1 year ago
@Pharaoh714 yes you are right, god bless you, thank you for your precision.
ramses0101 1 year ago
@Pharaoh714 Yeah, now explain that to the Athos monks who still call us monophysites and hold back their bretheren from uniting the Orthodox church. I wonder how our Lord and Master feels about that?! Lord have mercy on us!
GhinainanEvNoti 1 year ago 6
@GhinainanEvNoti woow thanks for such a wonderful chant. Newer heaerd such chant. God bless you true cristians. Lord bless us all. You left me with no words
TheMistAnchorite 1 year ago
@GhinainanEvNoti no my friend, they do not call us monophysite any more, and i got this information from the higest hierarchy in the oeucomenic council in geneva, be more tolerant with our greek orthodox brothers
ramses0101 2 weeks ago in playlist christian hymns
@ramses0101 | am tolerant brother, I have many Greek Orthodox friends... but the Athos monks are still a thorn in "Orthodoxy's side" as well as a community of theologians from the EO who are going against the grain... I know this b/c I've had many debates with them on youtube and many other blogs. It's always a few that ruin it for the many!
GhinainanEvNoti 1 week ago
Why do we start these stupid arguments on youtube about what it means to really be orthodox or christian? Can we put our pride and arrogance away for a few minutes so that we can love our brothers and sisters in christ?
EGvotreamie 2 years ago
i am orthodox from Romania !! coptic religion is not the true orthodox religion , but monophisits !! your saints are : Dioscor and Sever !! Dioscor killed saint Flavian and you believe in him as a saint !! saint Euphimia made a miracle once , to show you that you are wrong !! return and not forget that miracle !! you don t recognise the syonds , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 and believe in a wrong hristology !!
saftaromanul 2 years ago
you are not orthodox from romania, other wise you would not disturb here a praise for the prince of peace JESUS OUR BELOVED LORD
ramses0101 2 years ago 4
@saftaromanul
We believe in one nature, but so did Saint Cyril and the First Council of Ephesus.
Also, your claim that Saint Dioscorus killed Flavian is totally bogus, given that there were writings issuing from him several months after the Second Council of Ephesus.
No, we don't believe in the 4th-7th Councils. That is not a bad thing because they were in fact heretical.
Rahula 1 year ago
@Rahula all that was more political rather than theology! we consider greeks and all orthodox churches as orthododx , not heretical ! LONG LIFE ORTHODOXY!
ramses0101 1 year ago
@ramses0101
No, it was theology. You are right that the faith expressed by the Byzantines in our ecumenical dialogues is essentially orthodox. However, that does not mean the same was the case with the Council of Chalcedon. It was indeed heretical.
Rahula 1 year ago
so beautyful love coptic hymns
samermisr 2 years ago
yes coptic as in not orthodox !!
saftaromanul 2 years ago
Coptic is Orthodox! do u even knw wat orthodox is?
naeel6150 2 years ago 7
haha, dont worry about that guy bro,
im Coptic Orthodox as well. it is what it is, and has been for centuries.
dont let anyone tell you otherwise.
fallintosleep66 2 years ago
@naeel6150 There was a schism in 451 over the Council of Chalcedon. Some Copts accepted the Council and joined the Orthodox churches, while others did not and remained with the Oriental Orthodox group of churches, in my view a more ancient tradition. God seems to like having different churches, because one church by itself can't see the whole truth. We need different perspectives, but we all love the same Lord Jesus Christ.
Thrusce 1 year ago
@Thrusce
The vast majority of Copts remained Oriental Orthodox. Those who became Chalcedonian were few and were primarily Greeks who had some particular connection to the Empire.
Rahula 1 year ago
@Rahula Thank you for adding this important detail. To me it is further evidence that the Holy Spirit kept this Church separate and unique for a purpose, just as he did with many other branches of the one Church.
Thrusce 1 year ago
@Thrusce
Not sure what you mean. What do you mean by "many other branches of the One Church"?
Rahula 1 year ago
@Rahula All the ones that say "this is My body broken for you."
Thrusce 1 year ago
@Thrusce
Ah. We don't believe that. The Church is visibly One as Christ's Body is visibly One, because we ARE Christ's Body.
Rahula 1 year ago
@Rahula There is a joke I like to tell. Grandmother is at a parade, and says, "Oh, look! Little Johnny is the only one marching in step!" In the same way you or I believe our church is the best, maybe the only one, but we tend to overlook our own faults and then see everyone else's clearly. But there are many different churches who believe they are the Body of Christ. Their doctrine is sound. On a few points we disagree, but if we love the Lord Jesus Christ, that is the first, best thing.
Thrusce 1 year ago
@naeel6150 coptic, in the modern sense, refers to christian Egyptians. So it doesn't have to be just the oriental Orthodox church of Alexandria .
subzeroicefrost 1 year ago
please do not write your commentaries here ,because it is a prayer here.
ramses0101 2 years ago
go and read , understand and pray and then know who is orthodox.
ramses0101 2 years ago
@saftaromanul god bless you , pray for us copts
ramses0101 1 year ago 2
@saftaromanul You seem ignorant, and that's why your account got deleted. Do not make statements about something which you do not know, but ask questions and we would LOVE to answer them!! Peace and love to you my brother!
MsCoverTina 1 year ago
@saftaromanul
Copts are Christian Orthdox (the Church of St. Mark)
Do you know St Mark in the bible. I hope you do.
Sinai83 1 year ago 3
@saftaromanul
The Copts are orthodox, unlike you Chalcedonian heretics. ;-)
Rahula 1 year ago
to download this hymn;
google "tasbeha" go to the 1st link, and search for "Epourou" by Ibraham Ayyad:-)
Flexituigster 2 years ago
perfect. thank you
TheSubwoolfer 2 years ago
My favorite Coptic hymn
samsalib 2 years ago
Thank you, Naeel6115, for the great hymn you shared with us!
Ramoozini1099, according to the scientists (e.g. Andreevsky, 1884), invaders influenced but were mostly absorbed by the native etnicity. So, people living on the Egyptian territory are mostly descendents of the ancient Egyptians. The word "Copt" means "The Egyptian", so formally muslims can be copts as well. Simply, nowadays we used to call Egyptian Christians as Copts.
Freyalll 2 years ago
this is so beautiful...it's spellbinding, incredible...i love this, thanks so much for posting it!
LuckyGraveyardBoots 2 years ago
I have a question regarding Copts and Egyptians in general. Are the Egyptian Muslims of the same Ethnicity of the Egyptian Christians ? Or are they mostly the descendents of the Arabian Islamic invaders ?
Because alot of Muslims in Egypt say that they are also Copts who converted to Islam after the 7th century. I hope i will get the answer soon. GOD Bless.
Ramoozini1099 2 years ago
Dear Ramoozini, Thanks for an outstanding reply to ALGFUNK.
Copt comes from the greek word Coptus which means CHRISTIAN. Copts were about 99% of the population in Egypt before the prosecution They have been prosecuted until this very day. Coptics (Christian egyptians) are 100% Egyptians. There might be small percentage that were forced to convert to Islam during the Jezya time and thats why they became Muslims who could be from coptic Heritage. Egypt has and always will be a Christian Land.
naeel6150 2 years ago 4
Correction: Coptic means Egyptian, not Christian. So even the Muslim Egyptian is a Coptic. But they have a higher chance of having some Arab in them. But the Christian Coptic has a very high chance of being pure Egyptian!
tony87m 2 years ago
@Ramoozini1099 Hi, yes Muslim egyptian are mixed with arabs, wheareas Coptic or even jewish(they were in Alexendria for the most, convert after Moussa.)are descent from Pharaonic civilisation.There is a video wich explain better than me if you want it! Sorry english isn t my first language
salaam
masria22 1 year ago
Oh your Allah prays on Mohammad daily LOOL. Thank God i know Islam like the back of my hand.
And also most of the stories concerning Jesus Christ in the Koran were taken directly from the Gnostic Gospels the ones that were not Cannonized , for example the Infancy Gospel of Thomas and the Protovangilian of Mary , the story of Jesus Christ creating Birds from clay in the KORAN is mentioned in the Infancy Gospel of Thomas hahaha. The Koran came with nothing new.
Ramoozini1099 2 years ago
Thank you sir for replying to me. Most of the time i can't tell the difference between and Egyptian Christian and an Egyptian Muslim , because both look very Very similar ! The only time i can tell that one is Christian and one is muslim is by the names they have.
I think most Egyptian Muslims are of the same ethnicity as Egyptian Christians , but The Jizya made alot of Christians convert to Islam unfortuantely.
Ramoozini1099 2 years ago
yes but some egyptian muslims have arab ancestary since muslims are allowed to marry other muslims while the copts have no arab blood wat so ever since its forbidden to marry anyone else at the tym that wasnt coptic orthodox but this is only 10 % of the population
blessedbmypeopleypt 2 years ago
Its not enough that Islam and Muslims cause problems and make life a living hell in every country they go and destroy every civilization and language they reach, but also have to defile and ruin this wall !
To this Algofink whatever his name is , JESUS CHRIST is God in the Flesh God from God light from light True God from True God ! Even though God revealed himself in the pure person of Jesus Christ , God was not limited in Christ ! God is everywhere and is all powerful and unlimited.
Ramoozini1099 2 years ago 2
does anyone know where I can find an audiofile for this version of the song in particular?
Eulogium7 2 years ago
ALGfunk. Jesus Christ is God and took flesh to save humanity. It is not at all "IDIOTIC" to believe your listing. It is true and Christians accept this. Christ had to take on every aspect of our humanity (while still retaining his Divinity) in order to save us. And your ranting on Christianity only proves the insecurity you have of your own religion. You will get no one converted to Islam if you keep condemning others and promoting violence. May God forgive you for your unjust criticisms.
CopticBaller 2 years ago 3
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I dont care what anybody says about ISLAM. It has to be sent from ALLAH! Mohammed must be the TRUE prophet! After all he married a 9 year old girl to save her. Not only that, but ISLAM teaches us to SAVE non believers. Look at Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam. (can you feel the sarcastic vibe?)
mumswording 2 years ago
Bro . . to save a 9 year old by marrying her . . to having sex with a 9 year old. he could of taking her in as his daughter that sounds like saving her, regardless bro God nows everyones heart and if your a Good person with a Loving heart God will open your eyes. God bless you habibii
cblock5555 2 years ago 2
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You speak so "loving." Its very unlike what your child loving prophet Mohammed teaches.
Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah
mumswording 2 years ago
Bro . . Explain to me how is there any love there. killing is not love at all. jews or any other sort of people. just look this wont hurt at all.. do this.. you wont lose nothing... while you pray .. either at night or in the morning .. Ask God Jesus to give you a sign . . ask him with your heart and soul and with all your mind . . and i grantee you you''ll get one. God bless habibii.
cblock5555 2 years ago 5
dear sir, i would be gratefull if you do not add coments here, it is a not a discussion here, it is a prayer. thank you for your understanding. lakom dinakom wa lana dinana.
ramses0101 2 years ago
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ALGfunk 2 years ago
the most beautiful lanugage, good video keep up the good work!
egyptafrican 2 years ago
very beautiful hymn.. i love ibrahims voice. i hope my voice becomes like his... :).
egyptian12 2 years ago
Very beautiful
ninalbazi 2 years ago 3
Very nice, thank you
mikerizkalla 2 years ago 4
you're very welcome :) Hope you liked it
naeel6150 2 years ago
Salam
Christianfighter94 2 years ago 3
Sooo peaceful :)
ladydelish16 2 years ago 2
Gameeela... Thanks for posting.
Pharaoh714 2 years ago 2
Wonderful Hymn. Actually this particular tune had been used by the Ancient Egyptians when they received their Pharaohs. When Egypt accept Christ and converted to Christianity. Most of the Ancient Egyptian Music was given Christian lyrics, and thus many beautifyl Ancient tunes have survived in the music of the Coptic Church - Adam
JohnCrysostom 2 years ago 5
JohnCrysostom,
So true and thats why we still keep all the coptic hymns as it is in church. Coptic tunes are the best :). God bless
naeel6150 2 years ago
hello adam, where did you get this information? can you tell me about a book or a website about that? i thought it was the melodies in ancient temples!
thanks to inform me
ramses0101 2 years ago 4
JohnCrysosstom:
I heard that the Coptic Christians adapted many elements from the ancient Pharaonic Egyptian traditions, but couldn't really confirm whether it was true.
Thank you.
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
yes...ancient christianity have many things in common with Egypt and the Orphism.
Christianity is their natural continuation...
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
That's what my " research " basically shows. The Coptic church basically Christianized the religion / cult of Osiris, Isis, & Horus ( Wsir, Aset, Heru - er ).
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
yes, but not only coptic church, early christianity. For example also in the thracian church. IN early Orphism Osiris and Dionisus, the Thracian god is same person...
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
What about Mithra ( Persian / Greek ? ) ?
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
There is connection too. Persian Empire were in connection with the Judaism, Oprhism (Alexander the Great asked the Oracle in Perperek, the ancient Thracian City of Orphism, later christian). But this all is because all have Common Begining. But for me the most pure and preserved concepts are in the early Christian Mysticism.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
Some people have even gone so far as to say that Jesus' teachings ( Sermon on the Mount, Beatitudes, Parables ) were tinged by Hindu - Buddhist thought brought by merchants & travelers from India & the East, that they influenced early Christianity, too. The early Church supposedly believed in reincarnation. I have at least 2 books about " Missing Christianity ".
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
& a lot of Buddhists believe that Jesus is / was a " Boddhisatva ", an enlightened being who renounced Nirvana to come back & bring others to enlightenment. Not what I believe, personally, but I'm just quoting losely from their sources.
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
Knoxvilleguy2
Coptic church is one of the oldest churchs in the world. It was established by St Mark the Apostle in the 1st Century. The Copts kept the same traditions, teachings,books and even hymns until this very day. They did not adopt any other religions in their church or any old religions such as Isis or Horus and Defiantly does not have any relationship with Buddhist teachings or Hindus. All their sources come from The Holy Bible
Thank you - God bless
naeel6150 2 years ago
naeel6150:
I certainly didn't intend any disrespect or offense. But I have read some very informed, " learned " sources in books & on the Internet that state that the Coptic church DID take ancient Egyptian myths from the cults of the gods & goddesses of the Pharaohs & nobles, & adapted them to the Gospel accounts in the Bible. It's called syncretism.
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
hahah no no i didnt mean to be soo defensive anyways. But I am coptic myself and there isnt anything we believe that isnt from the bible. Everything taught in our church including the Bible are from the old teachings of St Mark.
naeel6150 2 years ago
Yes, no conscious disrespect intended.
St. Mark came to Egypt from the Judean area, correct ?
And I think he is buried in India after traveling there ( Goa ), Or maybe it was St. Thomas.
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
St Mark did not go to India it was St Thomas.
St Mark the evangelist died in Alexandria in Egypt on 68 AD.
God bless
God Bless
naeel6150 2 years ago
I just double - checked on the Wikipedia.
Peace & God bless.
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
The same thing -