I am a Libertarian, & a Ron Paul supporter- but I must say I'm quite disappointed to learn of his viewpoint on evolution. I agree with the YouTube user you mentioned that Ron Paul would NOT impose his religious views via political means. A fundamental tenant of the Libertarian viewpoint is that government is "hands off" as much as possible- its only proper role is the protection of individual property & individual rights. In fact, most Libertarians would dispense with public schools altogether.
"Existing system". Your unstated contention embedded within your question is that if a President holds beliefs which are not scientifically sound (such as that there was a creator God, as virtually all Christians believe, including Obama) that will have a negative impact on general understanding and acceptance of evolution and the scientific method, itself, I only say this: Americans will not elect an Atheist President in 2012, unfortunately. I am sorry this upsets you.
Since you are an educated person, I must assume that you have taken the time to try and understand libertarian views on the proper role of government. Therefore, you know very well that in a society such as the one Ron Paul and his supporters envision, the marketplace of ideas would decide what ideas prevail and not some kind of totalitarian religious indoctrination.
Hence, you cannot possibly believe Ron Paul's views on evolution are any threat whatsoever to your beliefs.
First of all, I want to say unequivocally that I believe that evolution is an accepted scientific theory which I personally accept and believe to be as valid as Einstein's Theory of Relativity.
I will answer your questions:
Ron Paul cannot be viewed in the light that you view an interventionist politician like Obama or Rick Santorum since his to not allow the government to indoctrinate people in any way. That would include, of course religious indoctrination.
Kinda puts a dent in atheists beliefs that only the uneducated are theists when so many theists in asia, africa, and south america, are out competing many western countries in the fields of science and technology:)
whether or not ron paul has any power over education is irrelivent. The western world is on the global decline and with it western propaganda such as atheism. Its funny people in the west claim atheism is th future and only smart people are atheists when atheism is only taken seriously in the west and regions of the world like asia which is very religious are slowly replacing the west as the dominant region of the world.
The following statement below is not in defense of creationism. I do not even know much about that. My concern was that by omitting certain subjects in our schools, we may make the mistake of suggesting to our future generations that it is infinitely impossible that a "God" exist when we don't have the means to disprove it enough. Because the onus is on humanity to prove how everything came out of nothing does not give humanity the right to omit "God" unless u bring up freewill and vice versa.
@tr2006x Tell me something, is it possible to provide clarification of or can you tell me what the fourth dimension feels, smells, tastes, sounds or looks like? It is impossible, yet if we do the math, those calculation may seem probable of it's existence. We could be living in a hologram and not even know it, as crazy as it sounds. Look, nobody, not even the brightest minds will have all the answers so let's not be foolish and feed on our passions for a particular frame of thought. Peace b w/u
@tr2006x I do not believe in creationism. However, if this subject is to be brought up in a science class, then it deserves its portion of criteria and scrutiny that allows the student to question it. Creationism, like evolution, has many holes, but on different sides of the spectrum. I believe in assessing empirical data and providing the best possible explanation, which science does. I can not disprove the existence of God but I will not use evolution as a solution to that argument.
@strke4ce Evolution has no holes according to biologists, it is a proven fact (genetics did the last trick). Name one hole and I'll do the research for you. Creationism is not a science and has no place in the classroom.
I expect extraordinary things to happen in my lifetime, but all of them natural and rational. You may win lottery (I hope you do), you may have a car accident (I hope you don't), but you will not encounter a little devil or little jesus when you cross the street.
@tr2006x I like your style. =) I could bring up the tetrapod known as the Coelacanth as an example or the query about the lack of transitional species in paleoanthropology, but if I did, I'd be called a creationist which I am not. I take the evidence at face value and give credit for the find as well as it's exhaustive research to understand them. A live tetrapod like the Coelacanth is a tremendous find. But we have to be careful what we declare as true. Too many variables IMO.
@strke4ce I was not talking exactly about transitional species. If Achilles can overtake a tortoise, you can get over transitional species :) To the best of my knowledge, they are sequencing Coelacanth genome and we are going to find out more about it - much deeper and much more meaningful. Stay tuned.
@ReligiousFiction Are you saying that every member of the scientific community (teachers, scientists, and professors ) rejects the possibility of an unknown or unmeasurable enigmatic force (for example, zero point) that might be part of the great construct known through out the knowable universe? Is there no algorithm available to provide a clear possibility to the existence of God? Different dimensions beyond our senses? How do we approach these questions? Surely not by absolution, correct?
Well ReligiousFiction, Obama got elected and he's a "christian" yet more and more of christianity has been taken out of schools. So. Just because Paul doesn't believe in evolution means nothing. Get over it, it doesn't matter of his religion or non-religion believes. It is solely on what he is going to do for this nation when he is president. Separation of church and state. Meaning church doesn't effect state and vis versa, ron paul is conservative and smart, unlike the other 4 candidates.
@Gatorade5152 actually very little christianity has been taken out of schools, and that which has was removed by the judicial branch, not the legislative branch. Meanwhile, across America, the christians are passing religiously based laws all the time.
Please, show me convicting evidence of evolution. Just because it's what's accepted by mainstream science doesn't make it fact. And your reference to a video discrediting another theory is in no case proof of yours. So please, make a video listing the scientific proof of evolution since it is so blatantly obvious.
the whole point is ron paul will have a hands off approach, and that people can decide the best education needs for their children .. you seem very anti paul.
A politician who is skeptical of Darwin is perhaps wrong but harmless.
A politician that in not skeptical of John Maynard Keynes is just as wrong but more dangerous. The last time Darwin was a political issue, people who believe but misunderstood Darwin created eugenics and that lead unconstitutionally serializing citizens against their will. eventually leading to the holocaust. There is no pressing issue for Darwin in the upcoming election.
Considering Ron Paul;s stance is the actual removal of the Department of Education, he would most likely have a hands off approach, unless he plans to influence all 50 states.
That being said, at least in Houston the public education system is largely shite, though there are some good schools, and at least the HISD schools accomodate for disabilities unlike the private and charter schools.
"My personal view is that recognizing the validity of an evolutionary process does not support atheism nor should it diminish ones view about god and the universe. From this view this is a debate about science and religion and I wish it could be more civil and should not involve politicians at all."
@Browncatpaw Atheism is not science, and science is not god nor religion. Even if you're an Atheist, that doesn't mean that you believe in all things, or even anything; science. It means you simply don't believe in deities. Science and religion should not be counterparts. It just doesn't work. There is no scientific method that proves the validity of someone's faith. The only thing science can prove about someone's faith is the physical property of their brain that helps them believe.
I dont have any beliefs other then that there are altered states of awareness, and in one of them it seems their is a great spirit animating all of nature that communes softly to you in a way that is loving an amazing grace....this is the common mystical experience... i form no beliefs around it. Wonder why the brain would do that, wonder what the evolutionary function of that would be? That is if we have to interpret every experience only by its evolutionary functionality.
"If man is evolving and progressing, why is man's evolvements in mass killings of one another getting worse and the struggle for peace more difficult. Government wars and exterminations in the 20th century reached 262 million people killed by their own governments and 44 million people killed in wars. I fear that doesn't say much for the evolutionary process."
@Browncatpaw None of that has anything to do with the global meaning of what evolution means in SCIENCE. For F*#*'s sake, SEPARATE the politics and the agenda of the politician from the SCIENCE. This is something you evolution deniers cannot seem to do, or fathom. The SEPARATION of a perception of somebody's brain, and what the actual facts are. And by the way, Ron Paul, just like any politician who wants to be ELECTABLE is saying what the deluded want to hear. That's creationism at its best.
@Rh3t Thats not politics thats not agenda , thats the big picture and his personal feelings about it, a philosophical issue. I dont think dr Paul wants to force everyone to believe what he believes lol, his only agenda is libertarianism which is the opposite of forcing your beliefs on people you dont know that?. Im not an evolution "denier" lol Natural selections a bitch
@Browncatpaw This (so-called Doctor) Paul has shown his true colors in this bid for president, much, much more than his last. He has taken a stance for his Libertarianism, but his ideals and 'philosophy' are just as propagating as his republican counterparts. The fact is, he doesn't "believe in evolution" - to which evolution is not a belief. Why is so hard to understand that evolution is not a religion? Not a theory... It's part of the SCIENTIFIC METHOD.
@Rh3t So miss scientific fact with all the answers to lifes great mysteries which have been pondered over by wise men of all cultures since the beginning of time. What are evolving into? answer this with your scientific method. Ron Paul says over and over and over, its not about his personal philosophical beliefs or yours its about liberty, so you can have yours and he can have his and i can have mine. Got a problem with that?
@Browncatpaw Miss? It's Mr., thanks. And, you're inferring I am concluding that I know all of life's mysteries because I entrust in scientific fact? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Evolution ISN'T a belief. It's not a religion. The facts are what we know. Science is humble, it knows what it knows, and what it doesn't. So how did I even once give mention to knowing all? I leave that kind of thing to the religious people, because they do it everyday. You're misinterpreting.
Evolution is not a belief, people. It's part of the 'Scientific Method'. The only reason the word EXISTS is because evolution has been proven to EXIST, physically, all around us since the natural world began. Just because you believe in a creator, doesn't mean you have any right, both literally or in the spiritual sense to discount what has been happening since we've been able to understand what's been happening. If you can't, all you're doing is what your told. Who's holding your strings?
@Rh3t The fact that there is ZERO evidence to support evolution, means it takes more faith to believe in evolution, than to recognise the marvellous intelligent design of all creation. None of you evolutionists have attempted to address any of my earlier hard questions on the first circulatory system, or first reproductive system, or first digestive system, etc.
@nz000roger777 Zero evidence... I feel sorry for your brain and how it's been oh so manipulated by the deluded, and better-more, the delusional. Your so called "hard questions" are not relevant questions, sorry to break it to you. It's not as simple as that. Your perception is that 'it's simple' because you believe it was simply created. The scientific method goes out to seek the answers, not to just assume the question. Plus, it must feel good just to 'know' everything, right?
@Browncatpaw That question is so irrelevant and has no substance to anything our debate has been about. Why must I believe that something > me. Why is that supposed to matter to my life? You can't fathom a world that just knows what it knows and continues to seek answers as we go along? You have to simply admit you know there IS something greater? Don't you think that's just as arrogant as someone who thinks they know everything? Aren't they one-in-the-same?
@Rh3t I like many people have had direct contact with something greater and thats what's made up my mind, and has made me very humble. I love science.
@Browncatpaw So if somebody dropped some acid and had a "Mystical Experience", said they saw and talked to "God" is that the same? I'll agree with 'mystical experiences being the same' - as in - they're all experiences that our brain was able to provide for us. Saying something is greater than what your brain can perceive is a whole different thing.
@Rh3t All i can say then is our brains are god in a way then that would humble us all on our ass, but remember to we dont see all there is to see, and physics is pointing at multi-dimensions, things are stranger then we yet know
@Browncatpaw In a way, you're agreeing with me on what science knows and what it doesn't. What you're saying is we don't see all there is to see - that's the same thing as saying "I don't know" what it is. Science, not being God, not being religion, seeks to find those answers by hypothesizing because of preliminary hints that might or might not point to an explanation. I never said there aren't things we don't "understand" but when it comes to topics like "faith" - they're not related. Can't be
@Rh3t Yes im all about science, i just dont think ron paul is agaisnt science either, i think he's being misunderstood. all he's saying is evolution doesnt prove athiesm or a divine creator, he's not denying the evidence for evolution...
@Rh3t There should be more study of the brain and its interaction with psycho-active plants and different levels of perceptual awareness, but of course government shut it down for a while
@Rh3t Yes saying something is greater than what your brain can create is the really interesting question. If our brain can to that of its own then, its really playing dumb with us during ordinary consciouness, its connected to the entire cosmos in away we have yet become aware of and understand. Evolution is fun isnt it?"
@Browncatpaw I applaud you for forming no beliefs around what your experiences have been. I never meant to deny your having those experiences, I just wanted to know on a minuscule level, what they actually were. Knowing now that it wasn't you "talking to God" and him "talking back" gives a lot more information about what you were talking about. Your experience may have been an illusion, or a real spiritual thing. But how do you convey this to the rest of us about it being somethings substantial?
@Rh3t Anybody can have it, the only substantial thing about it is its peace and beauty, Nature becomes endowed with a heavenly beauty normally blocked from our awareness, and it truly feels like home, like some sort of all powerful divine spirit of love and beauty is runnin the show, feels like your best friend, you just marvel at the beauty of the world in simple awe. There are no words to do the beauty of the world justice, there is no talking......
@Rh3t If that divine cosmic presence OR brain induced cosmic state of awareness were had by everyone, their would be no threat of WW3. That's the only thing substantial about it i can think of, its alot better then the experience we are all having right now, and its accessible to all of us. I'm actually going to go back over William James and Rudolf Ottos studies its been a long time since I did.
@nz000roger777 And by the way, you can slap a label like 'evolutionists' on us, but discovery is something that's made everyday, which makes us all "scientists". It all starts in your own backyard. It's up to you whether or not you have the balls and brains to seek it out. The 'facts' that is...
In Australia, we have an "out" atheist as Prime Minister, and not for the first time either. Three out of the last four have had no religious affiliation. It would be political suicide to not support evolution, except if you are in one of those seats which are dominated by certain christian denominations.
Lady some of us understand natural selection changes the color of birds feathers, but if you've ever had a mystical experience, union with the universe, you would understand their is a higher intelligence, which could be described as loving sustaining the entire master-piece, Ron Paul obviously respects science becoming an MD is no easy feat. Show some respect please.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
@Browncatpaw Beecoming a gynaecologist WHITHOUT BELIEVING IN THE ESSENTIAL TENET BEHIND ALL BIOLOGY? If I was a woman, I would not let him ANYWHERE NEAR my pussy.
@dangerouslytalented Your pussy evolved from the blackhole of nothingness to give us all shit for not believing in your pussies evolution from the black-hole nothingness.. sweet mother of god, the universe is a mysterious place
@dangerouslytalented Ron Paul does believe "IN THE ESSENTIAL TENET BEHIND ALL BIOLOGY": GOD! To those who have studied biology to the extent Ron has, the complexity and fragile nature of all creation cries out intellegent design. Random accident is mathematically impossible. Ron and over 2/3rds of educated Doctors reject the lie of evolution according to a recent survey.
@nz000roger777 If god designed the human body, WHY THE FUCK IS THE RETINA INSIDE OUT, with the photoreceptive cells BEHIND THE NERVES? Why are our spines not more suited to standing instead of walking on all fours? Why can't we process Vitamin C where all other mammals bar other apes? These can be easily explained by evolution, but CAN'T be explained by saying GOD crafted us all out of mud and designed us perfectly.
Teaching evolution is what has f*%^$&*d this world. If schools STOPPED teaching that lie and taught about our creator, the world would be a much better place. Satan has you sooooo deceived; but no surprise, he is the master of deception.
@dangerouslytalented to amswer your question, "If god designed the human body, WHY THE FUCK IS THE RETINA INSIDE OUT, with the photoreceptive cells BEHIND THE NERVES?" Must be a matter of what you have been led to believe. Sorry to hear about your eye problem, mine work excellent.
@nz000roger777 What I have led to believe from EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS EVER STUDIED A HUMAN EYE. EVERY OPTOMETRIST knows that the light has to get through the nerves, and this causes all sorts of problems, most of which are masked by the brain, like the blind spots.
@dangerouslytalented to answer your question, "Why are our spines not more suited to standing instead of walking on all fours?". Must again be a matter of what you have been taught to believe. I spend more time standing than on all fours, and my back works excellent.
@dangerouslytalented to address your point, "These can be easily explained by evolution, but CAN'T be explained by saying GOD crafted us all out of mud and designed us perfectly".
My faith says an intelligent designer crafted all the intricate diverse life that we see from mud.
Your faith is mud turned into the intricate diverse life that we see by accident.
@nz000roger777 It is not faith that indicates evolution, it is intense study of anatomy, genetics, paleontology, biology, botany, every bvranch of biological science points back to the same basic facts. Meanwhile, your bible is easily disproven, hell it even contradicts ITSELF.
@dangerouslytalented Well each religion has its own "proof" for its "followers" that it exists. Those that don't believe in it see a "loophole" that keeps them from believing it. IN many religions if something beyond normal happens, like a cancer patient survives or whatever. They consider that a benefit of their religion. In their eyes it is "proof" that their religion is legit. Same goes for evolution. "facts" that support evolution give those that believe in it "legit" facts. Just sayin
@Gatorade5152 The thing is, ALL the facts can be explained by evolution. Even those tricksy ones that the creationist websites keep on bringing up. And, similarly, all the facts back evolution up.
Many Americans are deceived and brainwashed into believing that their current president is running the country in a way that benefits them. Ron Paul is exposing that deception.
Many Americans are deceived and brainwashed into believing that their current president is making war in a way that benefits them. Ron Paul is exposing that deception.
Many Americans are deceived and brainwashed into believing evolution. Ron Paul is exposing that deception. GO RON PAUL!!!
OH JESUS ARE YOU EVER FUCKING STUPID...EVOLUTION IS A THEORY YOU DUMBASS...THAT'S THE WAY SCIENCE WORKS YOU STUPID CUNT....RON PAUL IS A SCIENTIST YOU IDIOT, HE HAS AN MD...WHAT DO YOU HAVE....I'M NOT A CHRISTIAN, I'M INTO COMPARATIVE SCIENCE AND PHILOSOPHY AS YOU CAN SEE ON MY CHANNEL, WE NEED TO GET DUMB CUNTS LIKE OUT THE HELL OUT OF EDUCATION...THAT'S WHAT LIBERTARIANISM IS ALL ABOUT YOU FRIKIN MORON
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@RONPAULALLIANCE Ron Paul does not believe in evolution. A medical doctor who does not believe in evolution? When did he get his doctorate? The 1950s? Oh yeah, he DID.
You have to have a BIG disconnect with reality to be a medical doctor and not believe in evoloution. He would have basically had to ignore vast tracts of scientific knowledge.
Why is anyone surprised Ron Paul is a Creationist? Even worse than that, he's also a crazy anarcho-capitalist! All the liberty he promises won't amount to much when the corporations own everything! Seriously, how much liberty do you think average people will have when an elite minority owns almost everything and the government has less power than Wal-Mart? Ron Paul's ability to interpret evidence is a train wreck!
You are so smug. I did a count of the comments on the last video,are you ready for some facts?4 out of 20 think you are right on.16 think you do not understand Ron Paul and his policies.Fact!Why did you not play all of what Ron said?It was only a 2 minute clip.I think youtube should remove you.should they?
Has Dr.Ron Paul ever tried to get creationism into the school systems of Texas or any other school systen?Do you think parents have the right to educate their children?Did einstien believe in god?Does steven halking believe in god?Does it matter if they believe god?Does constitution have a clause for seperation of church and state?Why?What does Ron Paul think about these things?Im only here because you are the first person on the youtube list dissing Dr. Paul.Are you a doctor?
@debtbully31 No, he would simply let them teach what they want. And they want to NOT teach the kids science. They don't want them learning ANY FACTS AT ALL.
Listen, belief does not necessarily translate to policy. Do our religious politicians require Christianity to be taught in school? No. Why would they require creationism to be taught in school then?
Turn of the century, circa 1900, air travel, electric motor, air conditioner, automobile, radio to name several of the innovations invented by mostly the self-educated. Now, it's apparent with this increase in mass education, all we can produce are children like this girl. If this girl can name just one transitional specie from primate to human, I would like her response.
Look here sister, I admire your passion and I personally believe in theory of Evolution myself. However, I fail to understand relevance of: How/why is this such a critical issue for deciding an American president. (Especially when faced with all other choices of warmongerers intent on destroying our economy and currency.)
politicians are never going to stop pretending to know shit that they don't actually know in a democracy because the masses will always be relatively ignorant and unable to distinguish their oratory skill from actual knowledge
I look forward to the day in the WORLD when people mind their own business and stop forcing their beliefs on everyone and then dismissing the entirety of a person based on a fallacy between belief systems. When the religious zealots will shut their preachers the hell up and the atheists stop arguing with half unproven science and everyone is agnostic and can swallow their pride and finally come out and say WE JUST DON'T REALLY KNOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS YET.
Here's a flow chart for evolution and Intelligent Design. Tell me which one is more believable. E - Universe>Boom>Gravity>Primordial Soup>Stars, Planets, Moons>Atoms Evolve to Single Cell Evolves to Multiple Cells Evolves to Complex Animals, etc. ID - Some thing created other things and they grew and adapted over time. You don't have to believe in God to believe in ID. If anyone so strongly believes that evolution is a fact, watch the documentary "Expelled". It shows the prejudice of "educated".
I'm not one for ad hominem, but you are very annoying and it severely detracts from whatever point you are making. Your first video denounced the arrogance of non-subscribers to the evolution theory. You are just as arrogant and therefore I could not watch your entire video. However, I've heard people like you say the same thing over and over again, so I think I got it. Evolution is a theory. Because evolution is not about going from primates to humans, it is about going from bacteria to humans.
Evolution is a fact. The Theory of Evolution is the attempt at explaining how it occurs (and we still have a lot to learn).
Arrogance is immaterial in this "debate", as is opinion. Evolution is not an opinion. It had been observed many times (E. coli and fruit flies, for example). I suggest using Google, since it won't let me post links.
I personally love being related to every living thing. Feels like I belong here!
@atomkinder67 Evolution is not a fact. To accept evolution when it comes to the theory of humans coming from apes, you also have to accept how primates, along with every other living thing, got here. And the theory of evolution says that the first living thing was a single cell organism which more or less invented itself. Scientists say that there would have to have been over 250 perfectly sequenced protein strains for that first organism to form, and the odds of that are so low it's ridiculous!
You're talking about Abiogenesis, not Evolution. Evolution occurs once life is already here.
Humans did not evolve from apes, we evolved from a common ancestor.
Odds don't matter once it's already happened. You are being ridiculous yourself. And please, which scientists say this? You can look up Abiogenesis yourself, as well as the immense MOUNTAIN of evidence for Evolution. By the way, the first life would have been amino acids.
@atomkinder67 You absolutely are not going to convince me that evolution is a fact. It isn't. It is a postulation about how homo sapiens, along with every other living thing, came to be. I don't subscribe to evolution because it invariably alienates people like me who believe in Intelligent Design. Too many things in the world are too perfectly harmonic to think that it is all just chaotic happenstance. I challenge you to watch the documentary about evolution called "Expelled". It's on Netflix.
@atomkinder67 Just for kicks, I'm going to tell you what believe and would like you to tell me how far exactly your belief in evolution goes, i.e. how did life come to be? I think we were all created (perhaps not in our current form) by a single Creator. Man created religion, not God. Have our bodies have changed over time? Sure. So have other animals, e.g. polar bears have adapted their white skin and clear fur. But I WILL NEVER believe that all things have evolved from one single being.
Evolution does not attempt to explain the origin of life. You're thinking abiogenesis, which is an entirely separate hypothesis/theory.
Genetic similarity (IE sequenced genomes), are indisputable evidence of all living things' common relation and most probably common ancestry. Which, by the way, is the best and most complete explanation so far (that is testable, observable, and disprovable).
Nature is amazing, and science, and I, need no "God of the Gaps" to explain it.
@atomkinder67 So, by saying that evolution is a fact means that it is a certainty. And evolutionists say that, without a doubt, we once were something different than we are now. And multiple times you said that we have a common ancestor. Now you are saying "most probably common ancestry" rather than "definitely common ancestry". Probable is not a fact. So why is it so hard to admit that our genetic similarities to other animals could have been designed by a Creator? Is it too "probable" for you?
Funny thing is, as I found the entire 'documentary' on YouTube, and was watching it and doing my own research (have you bothered to do that?), I found that someone has already done it.
Google Expelled Exposed
By the way, when you're doing a documentary, it's really a good idea to get more than 80% of one's arguments and subjects from one source. Far too many of them are directly connected to (and work for, or are published by) the Discovery Institute. Ridiculous.
@atomkinder67 Your attempt at trying to discredit the scientists by saying they belong to the Discovery Institute and therefore cannot be trusted is duly noted, but not accepted. That is like saying that people who gather with like-minded others can't be trusted. Ridiculous. If you follow that, no media group or channel can ever possibly be deemed reputable, as they are all likely conspirators or something like that. And Richard Dawkins saying aliens are more probable than ID shows you HIS bias.
My point is that most of the sources are overwhelmingly from one envelope. This is one source with many mouths.
Also, after watching the entire debacle, I never saw any evidence of ID presented. Just a bunch of people, discredited by the scientific community, complaining that they can't present their evidence. Complaints are not evidence.
ID is not testable, observable, or disprovable, which makes it NOT science.
@atomkinder67 No one ever said, at least I didn't, that Intelligent Design is a science. I said that evolution is not a fact. I said that adaptation over long periods of time is a fact. But the ASSUMPTION that because we are similar to something means that we must have originated from a single organism is preposterous. There's too much evidence lacking that can NEVER be found to say that the theory of evolution is a fact. Expelled was about showing that ID and evolution are both unprovable.
Except that it is a fact. You can believe it or not, but that doesn't change the evidence. It is as much fact as gravity, and all of that evidence and proof is out there, all you have to do is read it. Take a few biology classes, maybe an evolutionary biology class or two, and start doing some reading!
Want to know why I trust science? Because it is not infallible. It is, however, self-correcting. Once someone invalidates evolution through scientific means, I'll "believe" it.
@atomkinder67 Oh, and I looked at Expelled exposed and guess what I found? All of the information was maintained and compiled by none other than the National Center for Science Education. Now, other than the obvious philosophical differences, how are NCSE and Discovery Institute not in the same category of establishment? They both seek to promote their agenda, albeit starkly opposite, through information. You just happen to agree with one of them and are therefore OK with citing their research.
Science is NOT an agenda. When are you going to understand this? All I can surmise from your replies is that you are distrustful of science, if only because you are ignorant of the principles of science. Do some research FFS.
As the partner of a researcher, and the child of a Ph.D. in ichthyology, I can only hope that I am approaching this subject from a better reasoned position, and all I can do is try and point you in the correct direction. You assume bias, but only by reason.
@atomkinder67 So education (as you put it) is not an agenda? Why did you comment on here in the first place? You just told me that you were done trying to educate me, even though I never asked for your "education. You want people to agree with you and you associate with those who do, like NCSE. And those that don't agree with you piss you off and you get all up in a tizzy about the fact that someone doesn't believe in evolution. One last question: how do YOU think life began?
Oh no! Information compiled by those who would teach reasonable science! I'm goddamn sick of trying to get you to do some REAL research! You've just been suckered into belief over evidence, and I'm afraid that you're right, that I will never convince you of anything. All I ask is that you learn some science for yourself, then make up your own mind instead of listening to charlatans bent on pushing an ideological agenda over real education and knowledge. Please, get an education
ron paul may not believe in evolution, but he won't force it on anyone. He's just stating what he thinks, and he has no intention of forcing that on public education.
@Blueknight907 Ron Paul won't force it on anyone but he also won't prevent the religions morons from forcing it on everyone. If the voters want to replace the Biology text book with the Bible, then he will support them.
I wanna trash the school system as we know it today LOL. Charter schools all the way. Put responsibility back into the hands of parents so if they want to send their children to a less science based school so be it. The school id send my kid to would focus on mathematics and language to a lesser degree. G-D forbid stupid creationists roll their eyes when the brilliant evolutionists rant. To me knowing why isn't nearly as important as how.
@pdxeddie1111 just for the record I didn't thumbs down any of your vids simply because Im a believer in free speech and I think your points are just as important as mine and they must be heard. My belief is thumbing down can be abusive and unfair and should only be used for the most vile things, not opinions. If someone doesn't agree that's what these boxes are for.
@pdxeddie1111 As long as parents don't spend any of my tax money to educate their kids (in other words, home school) they can teach them whatever they want. As a non-parent taxpayer I should get a voucher too so I can vote on which local school should get my tax money. Why should parents get to decide where my tax money is spent just because they are the ones spending it?
@jollyandwaylo I have no problems with parents deciding where the money goes but as far as homeschooling I don't think you should get a voucher for that either. As one without children myself and pays property taxes I have no problems with the paying for the education of children but dang it I want them competitive with the far east and Europe and right now we are sadly behind.
@pdxeddie1111 I agree that is why I am against vouchers. Why should people who use the services get to decide what the services should be? Truckers get the most use out of the Interstates so should we let them decide which roads should be repaired? I don't mind paying for education but I should get a say in what that education looks like. No to vouchers.
@jollyandwaylo I think parents know best when it comes to the education of their children. They know them best and can choose the best school for their child's strengths and weaknesses. As long as schools pass minimum state requirements, schools should have more power over their curriculum to help individualize education. I don't want just robots, slaves to the old school model I'd like to see education help to blossom the child's talents and abilities.
@pdxeddie1111 They can do that now. They want vouchers so they can send their kids to religious schools. I don't want to fund religion any more than I do now -through their unconstitutional tax breaks. School cost would go through the roof, look what happened when Reagan admin pushed for medical products to be able to be advertised directly to the public, costs soared. Vouchers are partly my money and I should get to say what kind of schools we have too.
@jollyandwaylo unconstitutional? Most non profits enjoy that status even the secular ones, you don't hear me screaming about them. and anyways what makes you think it's unconstitutional? Maybe it's unconstitutional to have income tax in the first place. As far as medical expenses are concerned that goes up because of inflation a big part of that is from welfare and most companies when it's publicly funded make government pay premiums over private which creates snowballing inflation.
@pdxeddie1111 Non-profits have to jump through many hoops and keep open books about collecting and distributing money but churches don't. It's unconstitutional because the government is deciding who is a church and who is not. Churches should be treated the same as non-profits, ie, if they are doing charitable work, they should get tax breaks but not just because they are a church. There are many reasons medical is going up but one is advertising, look up what they spend compared to research.
@jollyandwaylo Yes I'll agree with you on the medical as far as there are many reasons for it going up and part of the reason is advertising. You know it seems ethics of advertising went out the window a long time ago because there was a time lawyers couldn't even advertise because it was considered predatory. As far as the Churches are concerned I'll go along with that because I know it would blow up in the state's face.
I could understand a hands-on approach to education, but not at the federal level. Seriously, there are too many differences from state to state to have many hard-set rules for education. Also, if you want more of a focus on evolution at your school, it's easier to change state rules than national ones. And no, belief in a god and evolution are not mutually exclusive, but don't tell that to your average US Christan. I need more space than this comment box to explain my religious beliefs.
The whole reason the country is retarded is because of public education. The more centralized it has become, the dumber we get. Could it be the govt gets exactly what it has paid for -- a bunch of cogs with no real respect for enlightened thinking and self-determination?
democratic schools! thats your answer. and to get them (or anything that works for that matter, im not saying that these are the only working schools) you need to have someone like Ron Paul as president...taking away the governments power to fuck with us
i think my generation (im in high school in Texas) are going to change everything. we are starting to learn that religion is just a load of crap, and the people who are going to be politicians, presidents, public officials, are going to be rational thinkers who aren't going to throw out logic and reason out of the picture. at my school i know a big group of kids who are anti- theist/ atheist and i can see they are the future, not religious freaks like the rest of my school.
Fundamental Religious types are only interested in one thing. Power. And they'll use Religion as a control.
Frankly I think it's too late for Texas. Too many simple minded bigots think all they have to do to be a smart good person is to say they're a Republican.
Building up a system of transparency can help everything. If we can start building a structure of transparency for every field we will see the standard of living world wide slowly improve. Transparency to the government of the people = control/slavery. Transparency to limited sources and hackers of the people and groups = corruption. Transparency to the people of the government, groups and people = understanding and learning.
a theory is just a theory, but there are facts behind it all are still there. the scientific method is far more important that the scientific establishment.
AronRa is half messiah and half Klingon, but he's the coolest person on YouTube. I watch all his videos. As for Rep. Ron Paul, he's a cool guy too, he's just cursed by the Texas Board of Education, who has zapped him with "stupid rays."
I love it when people use evolution being "only a theory" in a serious way to show ID should equal time in the classroom. I always point out to them that gravity is also only a theory, and propose my idea that the invisible leprechaun on my shoulder is holding us all down on earth and preventing us from being flung into space should be given equal time in the classroom. Always confuses them.
Just stumbled upon you via a friend "liking" this.
Nice vids, I like your style and intelligence! :)
Like Aron, you don't sound like you're originally from Texas. Regardless, I feel your pain with all the religiously fueled nonsense going on down there. :(
@OnTheFritz602 - I'm glad you've found me! I am originally from Texas, but my parents prided themselves on not having very thick accents, and I adopted that mentality. Plus, I was trained in theatre to have less of an accent.
I hope that you are aware that texas does not have an education problem. White, black, and latino students all outscore their companions in almost all other states, but because texas has the largest black/hispanic population, it has a lower straight average.
And no somebody not accepting evolution is not a sign of anything. I know a dozen incredibly intelligent people who are stupid in other areas that aren't their focus. Evolutionary science is not everything. U R an ideologue.
@OnTheFritz602 And i grew up in texas. There is no religious indoctrination in any of the schools that I go to, and 90% of the population doesn't speak with an accent. I mean, come on! You people are disgusting!
I wish politicians would stick to politics, creatards stick to theology, and both groups leave science to scientists. Now, genie, for my second wish....
I live in Texas. Scientifically illiterate people are taking away my right to a correct education. My Biology teacher doesn't even accept evolution, but that may explain why I know more about it than her.
"Biology makes sense only in light of evolution." Dobzanski. Conservatives are against evolution, because knowledge of it prevents them from having influence over the people in more than one fields of civil life - religion, the right to have an abortion, the right of homosexuals to feel equal, funding for science, and of course, over education. Any person, concerned about all these human rights, should do their part by speaking out. That's the only way I see of working towards a better future.
Education is the most important way of improving society and no-one should overlook it. It's not only a way to improve and develop the future but also a powerful weapon since basis for opinions and world views form at a young age.
I come from a nation with a great educational system (or so they say) and to me it seems outrageous that something like evolution is not taught or is taught as a "some believe" thingy in public schools.
I could discuss the topic forever but alas I'm out of letters. :'(
I had thoughts about this, but that train was just so well-timed it pretty much destroyed any other thoughts I was having. lol @ the slow motion train wreck, with the horn included. =D
well, there was a time when the US was a true leader around the world as far as science and innovation. I don't know what the hell happened. Things have changed drastically even in the 20 or so years since I went to school. We are pretty much a laughing stock when it comes to education these days.
I live in South Carolina, and I can say that growing up, evolution was never taught beyond... "some people think we came from monkeys and it took millions of years", about sums it up, on to dissecting frogs.
The problem is, that for one to decide not to agree with evolution, they must first actually understand it.
One of the problems affecting education is that we pay professional athletes in the millions and Scientists only in the thousands. We need the media to put more emphasis on televising intercollegiate competitions in academics rather than the big emphasis on sports. People need to find out that learning is fun and profitable. A fully funded government scholarship program for all qualified students would help. College grads pay more taxes in their lifetimes so they would pay back their scholarship
Yeah, I've been thinking for a while that We should have educational requirements for people that hold public office, because obviously there's some no too smart or honest.
I am a Libertarian, & a Ron Paul supporter- but I must say I'm quite disappointed to learn of his viewpoint on evolution. I agree with the YouTube user you mentioned that Ron Paul would NOT impose his religious views via political means. A fundamental tenant of the Libertarian viewpoint is that government is "hands off" as much as possible- its only proper role is the protection of individual property & individual rights. In fact, most Libertarians would dispense with public schools altogether.
TheTaoOfSteve 2 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@ReligiousFiction
"Existing system". Your unstated contention embedded within your question is that if a President holds beliefs which are not scientifically sound (such as that there was a creator God, as virtually all Christians believe, including Obama) that will have a negative impact on general understanding and acceptance of evolution and the scientific method, itself, I only say this: Americans will not elect an Atheist President in 2012, unfortunately. I am sorry this upsets you.
TheYnilp 1 week ago
@ReligiousFiction
Since you are an educated person, I must assume that you have taken the time to try and understand libertarian views on the proper role of government. Therefore, you know very well that in a society such as the one Ron Paul and his supporters envision, the marketplace of ideas would decide what ideas prevail and not some kind of totalitarian religious indoctrination.
Hence, you cannot possibly believe Ron Paul's views on evolution are any threat whatsoever to your beliefs.
TheYnilp 1 week ago
@ReligiousFiction
First of all, I want to say unequivocally that I believe that evolution is an accepted scientific theory which I personally accept and believe to be as valid as Einstein's Theory of Relativity.
I will answer your questions:
Ron Paul cannot be viewed in the light that you view an interventionist politician like Obama or Rick Santorum since his to not allow the government to indoctrinate people in any way. That would include, of course religious indoctrination.
TheYnilp 1 week ago
So you believe that you are better educated than a Doctor?
merlinspower 1 month ago
Kinda puts a dent in atheists beliefs that only the uneducated are theists when so many theists in asia, africa, and south america, are out competing many western countries in the fields of science and technology:)
MuslimApostate 1 month ago
whether or not ron paul has any power over education is irrelivent. The western world is on the global decline and with it western propaganda such as atheism. Its funny people in the west claim atheism is th future and only smart people are atheists when atheism is only taken seriously in the west and regions of the world like asia which is very religious are slowly replacing the west as the dominant region of the world.
MuslimApostate 1 month ago
@ReligiousFiction I admire your courage and the clarity of your argument. Thumbs up!
tr2006x 1 month ago
The following statement below is not in defense of creationism. I do not even know much about that. My concern was that by omitting certain subjects in our schools, we may make the mistake of suggesting to our future generations that it is infinitely impossible that a "God" exist when we don't have the means to disprove it enough. Because the onus is on humanity to prove how everything came out of nothing does not give humanity the right to omit "God" unless u bring up freewill and vice versa.
strke4ce 1 month ago
@strke4ce "Infinitely impossible"? "Impossible" is not enough for you?
What is the subject that you want to be taught in schools, creationism? Is that even a subject? :)))
tr2006x 1 month ago
@tr2006x Tell me something, is it possible to provide clarification of or can you tell me what the fourth dimension feels, smells, tastes, sounds or looks like? It is impossible, yet if we do the math, those calculation may seem probable of it's existence. We could be living in a hologram and not even know it, as crazy as it sounds. Look, nobody, not even the brightest minds will have all the answers so let's not be foolish and feed on our passions for a particular frame of thought. Peace b w/u
strke4ce 1 month ago
@tr2006x I do not believe in creationism. However, if this subject is to be brought up in a science class, then it deserves its portion of criteria and scrutiny that allows the student to question it. Creationism, like evolution, has many holes, but on different sides of the spectrum. I believe in assessing empirical data and providing the best possible explanation, which science does. I can not disprove the existence of God but I will not use evolution as a solution to that argument.
strke4ce 1 month ago
@strke4ce Evolution has no holes according to biologists, it is a proven fact (genetics did the last trick). Name one hole and I'll do the research for you. Creationism is not a science and has no place in the classroom.
I expect extraordinary things to happen in my lifetime, but all of them natural and rational. You may win lottery (I hope you do), you may have a car accident (I hope you don't), but you will not encounter a little devil or little jesus when you cross the street.
tr2006x 1 month ago
@tr2006x I like your style. =) I could bring up the tetrapod known as the Coelacanth as an example or the query about the lack of transitional species in paleoanthropology, but if I did, I'd be called a creationist which I am not. I take the evidence at face value and give credit for the find as well as it's exhaustive research to understand them. A live tetrapod like the Coelacanth is a tremendous find. But we have to be careful what we declare as true. Too many variables IMO.
strke4ce 1 month ago
@strke4ce I was not talking exactly about transitional species. If Achilles can overtake a tortoise, you can get over transitional species :) To the best of my knowledge, they are sequencing Coelacanth genome and we are going to find out more about it - much deeper and much more meaningful. Stay tuned.
tr2006x 1 month ago
@ReligiousFiction Are you saying that every member of the scientific community (teachers, scientists, and professors ) rejects the possibility of an unknown or unmeasurable enigmatic force (for example, zero point) that might be part of the great construct known through out the knowable universe? Is there no algorithm available to provide a clear possibility to the existence of God? Different dimensions beyond our senses? How do we approach these questions? Surely not by absolution, correct?
strke4ce 1 month ago
Well ReligiousFiction, Obama got elected and he's a "christian" yet more and more of christianity has been taken out of schools. So. Just because Paul doesn't believe in evolution means nothing. Get over it, it doesn't matter of his religion or non-religion believes. It is solely on what he is going to do for this nation when he is president. Separation of church and state. Meaning church doesn't effect state and vis versa, ron paul is conservative and smart, unlike the other 4 candidates.
Gatorade5152 1 month ago
@Gatorade5152 actually very little christianity has been taken out of schools, and that which has was removed by the judicial branch, not the legislative branch. Meanwhile, across America, the christians are passing religiously based laws all the time.
dangerouslytalented 1 month ago
Please, show me convicting evidence of evolution. Just because it's what's accepted by mainstream science doesn't make it fact. And your reference to a video discrediting another theory is in no case proof of yours. So please, make a video listing the scientific proof of evolution since it is so blatantly obvious.
blakejacksonhollywoo 1 month ago
the whole point is ron paul will have a hands off approach, and that people can decide the best education needs for their children .. you seem very anti paul.
Communist2012 1 month ago
A politician who is skeptical of Darwin is perhaps wrong but harmless.
A politician that in not skeptical of John Maynard Keynes is just as wrong but more dangerous. The last time Darwin was a political issue, people who believe but misunderstood Darwin created eugenics and that lead unconstitutionally serializing citizens against their will. eventually leading to the holocaust. There is no pressing issue for Darwin in the upcoming election.
ronwandell 1 month ago
Considering Ron Paul;s stance is the actual removal of the Department of Education, he would most likely have a hands off approach, unless he plans to influence all 50 states.
casualsuede 1 month ago
Tetra-chromatic? Where did that come from?
That being said, at least in Houston the public education system is largely shite, though there are some good schools, and at least the HISD schools accomodate for disabilities unlike the private and charter schools.
SephieRothe 1 month ago
"My personal view is that recognizing the validity of an evolutionary process does not support atheism nor should it diminish ones view about god and the universe. From this view this is a debate about science and religion and I wish it could be more civil and should not involve politicians at all."
Ron Paul
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
@Browncatpaw Atheism is not science, and science is not god nor religion. Even if you're an Atheist, that doesn't mean that you believe in all things, or even anything; science. It means you simply don't believe in deities. Science and religion should not be counterparts. It just doesn't work. There is no scientific method that proves the validity of someone's faith. The only thing science can prove about someone's faith is the physical property of their brain that helps them believe.
Rh3t 1 month ago
I dont have any beliefs other then that there are altered states of awareness, and in one of them it seems their is a great spirit animating all of nature that communes softly to you in a way that is loving an amazing grace....this is the common mystical experience... i form no beliefs around it. Wonder why the brain would do that, wonder what the evolutionary function of that would be? That is if we have to interpret every experience only by its evolutionary functionality.
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
"If man is evolving and progressing, why is man's evolvements in mass killings of one another getting worse and the struggle for peace more difficult. Government wars and exterminations in the 20th century reached 262 million people killed by their own governments and 44 million people killed in wars. I fear that doesn't say much for the evolutionary process."
Doctor Ron Paul
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
@Browncatpaw None of that has anything to do with the global meaning of what evolution means in SCIENCE. For F*#*'s sake, SEPARATE the politics and the agenda of the politician from the SCIENCE. This is something you evolution deniers cannot seem to do, or fathom. The SEPARATION of a perception of somebody's brain, and what the actual facts are. And by the way, Ron Paul, just like any politician who wants to be ELECTABLE is saying what the deluded want to hear. That's creationism at its best.
Rh3t 1 month ago
@Rh3t Thats not politics thats not agenda , thats the big picture and his personal feelings about it, a philosophical issue. I dont think dr Paul wants to force everyone to believe what he believes lol, his only agenda is libertarianism which is the opposite of forcing your beliefs on people you dont know that?. Im not an evolution "denier" lol Natural selections a bitch
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
@Browncatpaw This (so-called Doctor) Paul has shown his true colors in this bid for president, much, much more than his last. He has taken a stance for his Libertarianism, but his ideals and 'philosophy' are just as propagating as his republican counterparts. The fact is, he doesn't "believe in evolution" - to which evolution is not a belief. Why is so hard to understand that evolution is not a religion? Not a theory... It's part of the SCIENTIFIC METHOD.
Rh3t 1 month ago
@Rh3t So miss scientific fact with all the answers to lifes great mysteries which have been pondered over by wise men of all cultures since the beginning of time. What are evolving into? answer this with your scientific method. Ron Paul says over and over and over, its not about his personal philosophical beliefs or yours its about liberty, so you can have yours and he can have his and i can have mine. Got a problem with that?
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
@Browncatpaw Miss? It's Mr., thanks. And, you're inferring I am concluding that I know all of life's mysteries because I entrust in scientific fact? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Evolution ISN'T a belief. It's not a religion. The facts are what we know. Science is humble, it knows what it knows, and what it doesn't. So how did I even once give mention to knowing all? I leave that kind of thing to the religious people, because they do it everyday. You're misinterpreting.
Rh3t 1 month ago
Evolution is not a belief, people. It's part of the 'Scientific Method'. The only reason the word EXISTS is because evolution has been proven to EXIST, physically, all around us since the natural world began. Just because you believe in a creator, doesn't mean you have any right, both literally or in the spiritual sense to discount what has been happening since we've been able to understand what's been happening. If you can't, all you're doing is what your told. Who's holding your strings?
Rh3t 1 month ago
@Rh3t The fact that there is ZERO evidence to support evolution, means it takes more faith to believe in evolution, than to recognise the marvellous intelligent design of all creation. None of you evolutionists have attempted to address any of my earlier hard questions on the first circulatory system, or first reproductive system, or first digestive system, etc.
nz000roger777 1 month ago
@nz000roger777 Zero evidence... I feel sorry for your brain and how it's been oh so manipulated by the deluded, and better-more, the delusional. Your so called "hard questions" are not relevant questions, sorry to break it to you. It's not as simple as that. Your perception is that 'it's simple' because you believe it was simply created. The scientific method goes out to seek the answers, not to just assume the question. Plus, it must feel good just to 'know' everything, right?
Rh3t 1 month ago
@Rh3t Are you so arrogant as to believe there is no intelligence, no power, no life-force greater than you?
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
@Browncatpaw That question is so irrelevant and has no substance to anything our debate has been about. Why must I believe that something > me. Why is that supposed to matter to my life? You can't fathom a world that just knows what it knows and continues to seek answers as we go along? You have to simply admit you know there IS something greater? Don't you think that's just as arrogant as someone who thinks they know everything? Aren't they one-in-the-same?
Rh3t 1 month ago
@Rh3t I like many people have had direct contact with something greater and thats what's made up my mind, and has made me very humble. I love science.
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
@Browncatpaw Could you be more specific as to what your experience was with something "greater" so I can better understand what that means?
Rh3t 1 month ago
@Rh3t Mystical experiences are all the same. William James did an excellent study on it, and Rudolph Otto did to, really interesting stuff to read.
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
@Browncatpaw So if somebody dropped some acid and had a "Mystical Experience", said they saw and talked to "God" is that the same? I'll agree with 'mystical experiences being the same' - as in - they're all experiences that our brain was able to provide for us. Saying something is greater than what your brain can perceive is a whole different thing.
Rh3t 1 month ago
@Rh3t All i can say then is our brains are god in a way then that would humble us all on our ass, but remember to we dont see all there is to see, and physics is pointing at multi-dimensions, things are stranger then we yet know
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
@Browncatpaw In a way, you're agreeing with me on what science knows and what it doesn't. What you're saying is we don't see all there is to see - that's the same thing as saying "I don't know" what it is. Science, not being God, not being religion, seeks to find those answers by hypothesizing because of preliminary hints that might or might not point to an explanation. I never said there aren't things we don't "understand" but when it comes to topics like "faith" - they're not related. Can't be
Rh3t 1 month ago
@Rh3t Yes im all about science, i just dont think ron paul is agaisnt science either, i think he's being misunderstood. all he's saying is evolution doesnt prove athiesm or a divine creator, he's not denying the evidence for evolution...
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
There are other levels of awareness then the one me and you are in now. So i try to remain humble and respectful and am always learning
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
@Rh3t There should be more study of the brain and its interaction with psycho-active plants and different levels of perceptual awareness, but of course government shut it down for a while
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
@Rh3t Yes saying something is greater than what your brain can create is the really interesting question. If our brain can to that of its own then, its really playing dumb with us during ordinary consciouness, its connected to the entire cosmos in away we have yet become aware of and understand. Evolution is fun isnt it?"
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
@Browncatpaw I applaud you for forming no beliefs around what your experiences have been. I never meant to deny your having those experiences, I just wanted to know on a minuscule level, what they actually were. Knowing now that it wasn't you "talking to God" and him "talking back" gives a lot more information about what you were talking about. Your experience may have been an illusion, or a real spiritual thing. But how do you convey this to the rest of us about it being somethings substantial?
Rh3t 1 month ago
@Rh3t Anybody can have it, the only substantial thing about it is its peace and beauty, Nature becomes endowed with a heavenly beauty normally blocked from our awareness, and it truly feels like home, like some sort of all powerful divine spirit of love and beauty is runnin the show, feels like your best friend, you just marvel at the beauty of the world in simple awe. There are no words to do the beauty of the world justice, there is no talking......
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
@Rh3t If that divine cosmic presence OR brain induced cosmic state of awareness were had by everyone, their would be no threat of WW3. That's the only thing substantial about it i can think of, its alot better then the experience we are all having right now, and its accessible to all of us. I'm actually going to go back over William James and Rudolf Ottos studies its been a long time since I did.
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
@nz000roger777 And by the way, you can slap a label like 'evolutionists' on us, but discovery is something that's made everyday, which makes us all "scientists". It all starts in your own backyard. It's up to you whether or not you have the balls and brains to seek it out. The 'facts' that is...
Rh3t 1 month ago
In Australia, we have an "out" atheist as Prime Minister, and not for the first time either. Three out of the last four have had no religious affiliation. It would be political suicide to not support evolution, except if you are in one of those seats which are dominated by certain christian denominations.
dangerouslytalented 1 month ago
Lady some of us understand natural selection changes the color of birds feathers, but if you've ever had a mystical experience, union with the universe, you would understand their is a higher intelligence, which could be described as loving sustaining the entire master-piece, Ron Paul obviously respects science becoming an MD is no easy feat. Show some respect please.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
Shakespeare
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
@Browncatpaw Beecoming a gynaecologist WHITHOUT BELIEVING IN THE ESSENTIAL TENET BEHIND ALL BIOLOGY? If I was a woman, I would not let him ANYWHERE NEAR my pussy.
dangerouslytalented 1 month ago
@dangerouslytalented Your pussy evolved from the blackhole of nothingness to give us all shit for not believing in your pussies evolution from the black-hole nothingness.. sweet mother of god, the universe is a mysterious place
Browncatpaw 1 month ago
@dangerouslytalented Ron Paul does believe "IN THE ESSENTIAL TENET BEHIND ALL BIOLOGY": GOD! To those who have studied biology to the extent Ron has, the complexity and fragile nature of all creation cries out intellegent design. Random accident is mathematically impossible. Ron and over 2/3rds of educated Doctors reject the lie of evolution according to a recent survey.
nz000roger777 1 month ago
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dangerouslytalented 1 month ago
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@nz000roger777 If god designed the human body, WHY THE FUCK IS THE RETINA INSIDE OUT, with the photoreceptive cells BEHIND THE NERVES? Why are our spines not more suited to standing instead of walking on all fours? Why can't we process Vitamin C where all other mammals bar other apes? These can be easily explained by evolution, but CAN'T be explained by saying GOD crafted us all out of mud and designed us perfectly.
And what survey are you mentioning?
dangerouslytalented 1 month ago
Teaching evolution is what has f*%^$&*d this world. If schools STOPPED teaching that lie and taught about our creator, the world would be a much better place. Satan has you sooooo deceived; but no surprise, he is the master of deception.
nz000roger777 1 month ago
@nz000roger777 Countries that teach science more are the ones that have progressed more. FACT.
dangerouslytalented 1 month ago
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@dangerouslytalented Countries that acknowledge the God of the Bible are the ones that have progressed more. FACT.
nz000roger777 1 month ago
@dangerouslytalented to amswer your question, "If god designed the human body, WHY THE FUCK IS THE RETINA INSIDE OUT, with the photoreceptive cells BEHIND THE NERVES?" Must be a matter of what you have been led to believe. Sorry to hear about your eye problem, mine work excellent.
nz000roger777 1 month ago
@nz000roger777 What I have led to believe from EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS EVER STUDIED A HUMAN EYE. EVERY OPTOMETRIST knows that the light has to get through the nerves, and this causes all sorts of problems, most of which are masked by the brain, like the blind spots.
dangerouslytalented 1 month ago
@dangerouslytalented to answer your question, "Why are our spines not more suited to standing instead of walking on all fours?". Must again be a matter of what you have been taught to believe. I spend more time standing than on all fours, and my back works excellent.
nz000roger777 1 month ago
@dangerouslytalented to address your point, "These can be easily explained by evolution, but CAN'T be explained by saying GOD crafted us all out of mud and designed us perfectly".
My faith says an intelligent designer crafted all the intricate diverse life that we see from mud.
Your faith is mud turned into the intricate diverse life that we see by accident.
I do admire your amazing faith!!!
nz000roger777 1 month ago
@nz000roger777 Your "intelligent designer" wasn't so intelligent when it came to you!
Rh3t 1 month ago
@nz000roger777 It is not faith that indicates evolution, it is intense study of anatomy, genetics, paleontology, biology, botany, every bvranch of biological science points back to the same basic facts. Meanwhile, your bible is easily disproven, hell it even contradicts ITSELF.
dangerouslytalented 1 month ago
@dangerouslytalented Well each religion has its own "proof" for its "followers" that it exists. Those that don't believe in it see a "loophole" that keeps them from believing it. IN many religions if something beyond normal happens, like a cancer patient survives or whatever. They consider that a benefit of their religion. In their eyes it is "proof" that their religion is legit. Same goes for evolution. "facts" that support evolution give those that believe in it "legit" facts. Just sayin
Gatorade5152 1 month ago
@Gatorade5152 The thing is, ALL the facts can be explained by evolution. Even those tricksy ones that the creationist websites keep on bringing up. And, similarly, all the facts back evolution up.
dangerouslytalented 1 month ago
Many Americans are deceived and brainwashed into believing that their current president is running the country in a way that benefits them. Ron Paul is exposing that deception.
Many Americans are deceived and brainwashed into believing that their current president is making war in a way that benefits them. Ron Paul is exposing that deception.
Many Americans are deceived and brainwashed into believing evolution. Ron Paul is exposing that deception. GO RON PAUL!!!
nz000roger777 1 month ago
OH JESUS ARE YOU EVER FUCKING STUPID...EVOLUTION IS A THEORY YOU DUMBASS...THAT'S THE WAY SCIENCE WORKS YOU STUPID CUNT....RON PAUL IS A SCIENTIST YOU IDIOT, HE HAS AN MD...WHAT DO YOU HAVE....I'M NOT A CHRISTIAN, I'M INTO COMPARATIVE SCIENCE AND PHILOSOPHY AS YOU CAN SEE ON MY CHANNEL, WE NEED TO GET DUMB CUNTS LIKE OUT THE HELL OUT OF EDUCATION...THAT'S WHAT LIBERTARIANISM IS ALL ABOUT YOU FRIKIN MORON
RONPAULALLIANCE 2 months ago
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shangrigreige 2 months ago
@RONPAULALLIANCE Ron Paul does not believe in evolution. A medical doctor who does not believe in evolution? When did he get his doctorate? The 1950s? Oh yeah, he DID.
You have to have a BIG disconnect with reality to be a medical doctor and not believe in evoloution. He would have basically had to ignore vast tracts of scientific knowledge.
dangerouslytalented 1 month ago
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Why is anyone surprised Ron Paul is a Creationist? Even worse than that, he's also a crazy anarcho-capitalist! All the liberty he promises won't amount to much when the corporations own everything! Seriously, how much liberty do you think average people will have when an elite minority owns almost everything and the government has less power than Wal-Mart? Ron Paul's ability to interpret evidence is a train wreck!
a0eoj 2 months ago
KITTEH! ^.^
stealthbadger 2 months ago
You are so smug. I did a count of the comments on the last video,are you ready for some facts?4 out of 20 think you are right on.16 think you do not understand Ron Paul and his policies.Fact!Why did you not play all of what Ron said?It was only a 2 minute clip.I think youtube should remove you.should they?
debtbully31 2 months ago
now
debtbully31 2 months ago
They know think E=Mc2 is wrong,does that make you wrong?
debtbully31 2 months ago
Has Dr.Ron Paul ever tried to get creationism into the school systems of Texas or any other school systen?Do you think parents have the right to educate their children?Did einstien believe in god?Does steven halking believe in god?Does it matter if they believe god?Does constitution have a clause for seperation of church and state?Why?What does Ron Paul think about these things?Im only here because you are the first person on the youtube list dissing Dr. Paul.Are you a doctor?
debtbully31 2 months ago
@debtbully31 No, he would simply let them teach what they want. And they want to NOT teach the kids science. They don't want them learning ANY FACTS AT ALL.
dangerouslytalented 1 month ago
Listen, belief does not necessarily translate to policy. Do our religious politicians require Christianity to be taught in school? No. Why would they require creationism to be taught in school then?
iKhanKing 3 months ago
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Turn of the century, circa 1900, air travel, electric motor, air conditioner, automobile, radio to name several of the innovations invented by mostly the self-educated. Now, it's apparent with this increase in mass education, all we can produce are children like this girl. If this girl can name just one transitional specie from primate to human, I would like her response.
Ktoloneci 3 months ago
Look here sister, I admire your passion and I personally believe in theory of Evolution myself. However, I fail to understand relevance of: How/why is this such a critical issue for deciding an American president. (Especially when faced with all other choices of warmongerers intent on destroying our economy and currency.)
cbhavsar1 4 months ago
politicians are never going to stop pretending to know shit that they don't actually know in a democracy because the masses will always be relatively ignorant and unable to distinguish their oratory skill from actual knowledge
cowfordflorida1 4 months ago in playlist More videos from ReligiousFiction
I look forward to the day in the WORLD when people mind their own business and stop forcing their beliefs on everyone and then dismissing the entirety of a person based on a fallacy between belief systems. When the religious zealots will shut their preachers the hell up and the atheists stop arguing with half unproven science and everyone is agnostic and can swallow their pride and finally come out and say WE JUST DON'T REALLY KNOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS YET.
K31TH3R 4 months ago
It's good to learn science. Doesn't mean you need to believe everything you learn.
MrCookiedMilk 4 months ago
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Here's a flow chart for evolution and Intelligent Design. Tell me which one is more believable. E - Universe>Boom>Gravity>Primordial Soup>Stars, Planets, Moons>Atoms Evolve to Single Cell Evolves to Multiple Cells Evolves to Complex Animals, etc. ID - Some thing created other things and they grew and adapted over time. You don't have to believe in God to believe in ID. If anyone so strongly believes that evolution is a fact, watch the documentary "Expelled". It shows the prejudice of "educated".
r3d3mpt1ons0ng 5 months ago
I'm not one for ad hominem, but you are very annoying and it severely detracts from whatever point you are making. Your first video denounced the arrogance of non-subscribers to the evolution theory. You are just as arrogant and therefore I could not watch your entire video. However, I've heard people like you say the same thing over and over again, so I think I got it. Evolution is a theory. Because evolution is not about going from primates to humans, it is about going from bacteria to humans.
r3d3mpt1ons0ng 5 months ago
@r3d3mpt1ons0ng
Evolution is a fact. The Theory of Evolution is the attempt at explaining how it occurs (and we still have a lot to learn).
Arrogance is immaterial in this "debate", as is opinion. Evolution is not an opinion. It had been observed many times (E. coli and fruit flies, for example). I suggest using Google, since it won't let me post links.
I personally love being related to every living thing. Feels like I belong here!
atomkinder67 5 months ago
@atomkinder67 Evolution is not a fact. To accept evolution when it comes to the theory of humans coming from apes, you also have to accept how primates, along with every other living thing, got here. And the theory of evolution says that the first living thing was a single cell organism which more or less invented itself. Scientists say that there would have to have been over 250 perfectly sequenced protein strains for that first organism to form, and the odds of that are so low it's ridiculous!
r3d3mpt1ons0ng 5 months ago
@r3d3mpt1ons0ng
You're talking about Abiogenesis, not Evolution. Evolution occurs once life is already here.
Humans did not evolve from apes, we evolved from a common ancestor.
Odds don't matter once it's already happened. You are being ridiculous yourself. And please, which scientists say this? You can look up Abiogenesis yourself, as well as the immense MOUNTAIN of evidence for Evolution. By the way, the first life would have been amino acids.
Evolution IS a fact. Deal with it.
atomkinder67 5 months ago
@atomkinder67 You absolutely are not going to convince me that evolution is a fact. It isn't. It is a postulation about how homo sapiens, along with every other living thing, came to be. I don't subscribe to evolution because it invariably alienates people like me who believe in Intelligent Design. Too many things in the world are too perfectly harmonic to think that it is all just chaotic happenstance. I challenge you to watch the documentary about evolution called "Expelled". It's on Netflix.
r3d3mpt1ons0ng 5 months ago
@r3d3mpt1ons0ng
Intelligent design is a belief. Evolution is a science. There's your difference, whether you trust it or not.
Chaotic happenstance has nothing to do with evolution. It may be mindless, but it isn't purposeless (you know, successful traits are passed on).
I don't have Netflix.
From IMDB: "Stein links Darwinism to Nazism, Communism, eugenics and abortion."
Yeah, sounds credible to me.
"...used to illustrate points in a satirical way."
As opposed to scientific. Gotcha.
atomkinder67 5 months ago
@atomkinder67 Just for kicks, I'm going to tell you what believe and would like you to tell me how far exactly your belief in evolution goes, i.e. how did life come to be? I think we were all created (perhaps not in our current form) by a single Creator. Man created religion, not God. Have our bodies have changed over time? Sure. So have other animals, e.g. polar bears have adapted their white skin and clear fur. But I WILL NEVER believe that all things have evolved from one single being.
r3d3mpt1ons0ng 5 months ago
@r3d3mpt1ons0ng
Evolution does not attempt to explain the origin of life. You're thinking abiogenesis, which is an entirely separate hypothesis/theory.
Genetic similarity (IE sequenced genomes), are indisputable evidence of all living things' common relation and most probably common ancestry. Which, by the way, is the best and most complete explanation so far (that is testable, observable, and disprovable).
Nature is amazing, and science, and I, need no "God of the Gaps" to explain it.
atomkinder67 5 months ago
@atomkinder67 So, by saying that evolution is a fact means that it is a certainty. And evolutionists say that, without a doubt, we once were something different than we are now. And multiple times you said that we have a common ancestor. Now you are saying "most probably common ancestry" rather than "definitely common ancestry". Probable is not a fact. So why is it so hard to admit that our genetic similarities to other animals could have been designed by a Creator? Is it too "probable" for you?
r3d3mpt1ons0ng 5 months ago
@r3d3mpt1ons0ng
Funny thing is, as I found the entire 'documentary' on YouTube, and was watching it and doing my own research (have you bothered to do that?), I found that someone has already done it.
Google Expelled Exposed
By the way, when you're doing a documentary, it's really a good idea to get more than 80% of one's arguments and subjects from one source. Far too many of them are directly connected to (and work for, or are published by) the Discovery Institute. Ridiculous.
atomkinder67 5 months ago
@atomkinder67 Your attempt at trying to discredit the scientists by saying they belong to the Discovery Institute and therefore cannot be trusted is duly noted, but not accepted. That is like saying that people who gather with like-minded others can't be trusted. Ridiculous. If you follow that, no media group or channel can ever possibly be deemed reputable, as they are all likely conspirators or something like that. And Richard Dawkins saying aliens are more probable than ID shows you HIS bias.
r3d3mpt1ons0ng 5 months ago
@r3d3mpt1ons0ng
My point is that most of the sources are overwhelmingly from one envelope. This is one source with many mouths.
Also, after watching the entire debacle, I never saw any evidence of ID presented. Just a bunch of people, discredited by the scientific community, complaining that they can't present their evidence. Complaints are not evidence.
ID is not testable, observable, or disprovable, which makes it NOT science.
atomkinder67 5 months ago
@atomkinder67 No one ever said, at least I didn't, that Intelligent Design is a science. I said that evolution is not a fact. I said that adaptation over long periods of time is a fact. But the ASSUMPTION that because we are similar to something means that we must have originated from a single organism is preposterous. There's too much evidence lacking that can NEVER be found to say that the theory of evolution is a fact. Expelled was about showing that ID and evolution are both unprovable.
r3d3mpt1ons0ng 5 months ago
@r3d3mpt1ons0ng
Except that it is a fact. You can believe it or not, but that doesn't change the evidence. It is as much fact as gravity, and all of that evidence and proof is out there, all you have to do is read it. Take a few biology classes, maybe an evolutionary biology class or two, and start doing some reading!
Want to know why I trust science? Because it is not infallible. It is, however, self-correcting. Once someone invalidates evolution through scientific means, I'll "believe" it.
atomkinder67 5 months ago
@atomkinder67 Oh, and I looked at Expelled exposed and guess what I found? All of the information was maintained and compiled by none other than the National Center for Science Education. Now, other than the obvious philosophical differences, how are NCSE and Discovery Institute not in the same category of establishment? They both seek to promote their agenda, albeit starkly opposite, through information. You just happen to agree with one of them and are therefore OK with citing their research.
r3d3mpt1ons0ng 5 months ago
@r3d3mpt1ons0ng
Science is NOT an agenda. When are you going to understand this? All I can surmise from your replies is that you are distrustful of science, if only because you are ignorant of the principles of science. Do some research FFS.
As the partner of a researcher, and the child of a Ph.D. in ichthyology, I can only hope that I am approaching this subject from a better reasoned position, and all I can do is try and point you in the correct direction. You assume bias, but only by reason.
atomkinder67 5 months ago
@atomkinder67 So education (as you put it) is not an agenda? Why did you comment on here in the first place? You just told me that you were done trying to educate me, even though I never asked for your "education. You want people to agree with you and you associate with those who do, like NCSE. And those that don't agree with you piss you off and you get all up in a tizzy about the fact that someone doesn't believe in evolution. One last question: how do YOU think life began?
r3d3mpt1ons0ng 5 months ago
@r3d3mpt1ons0ng
Oh no! Information compiled by those who would teach reasonable science! I'm goddamn sick of trying to get you to do some REAL research! You've just been suckered into belief over evidence, and I'm afraid that you're right, that I will never convince you of anything. All I ask is that you learn some science for yourself, then make up your own mind instead of listening to charlatans bent on pushing an ideological agenda over real education and knowledge. Please, get an education
atomkinder67 5 months ago
ron paul may not believe in evolution, but he won't force it on anyone. He's just stating what he thinks, and he has no intention of forcing that on public education.
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@Blueknight907 Ron Paul won't force it on anyone but he also won't prevent the religions morons from forcing it on everyone. If the voters want to replace the Biology text book with the Bible, then he will support them.
RONPAULFREEDUMB 5 months ago
I wanna trash the school system as we know it today LOL. Charter schools all the way. Put responsibility back into the hands of parents so if they want to send their children to a less science based school so be it. The school id send my kid to would focus on mathematics and language to a lesser degree. G-D forbid stupid creationists roll their eyes when the brilliant evolutionists rant. To me knowing why isn't nearly as important as how.
pdxeddie1111 5 months ago
@pdxeddie1111 just for the record I didn't thumbs down any of your vids simply because Im a believer in free speech and I think your points are just as important as mine and they must be heard. My belief is thumbing down can be abusive and unfair and should only be used for the most vile things, not opinions. If someone doesn't agree that's what these boxes are for.
pdxeddie1111 5 months ago
@pdxeddie1111 As long as parents don't spend any of my tax money to educate their kids (in other words, home school) they can teach them whatever they want. As a non-parent taxpayer I should get a voucher too so I can vote on which local school should get my tax money. Why should parents get to decide where my tax money is spent just because they are the ones spending it?
jollyandwaylo 5 months ago
@jollyandwaylo I have no problems with parents deciding where the money goes but as far as homeschooling I don't think you should get a voucher for that either. As one without children myself and pays property taxes I have no problems with the paying for the education of children but dang it I want them competitive with the far east and Europe and right now we are sadly behind.
pdxeddie1111 5 months ago
@pdxeddie1111 I agree that is why I am against vouchers. Why should people who use the services get to decide what the services should be? Truckers get the most use out of the Interstates so should we let them decide which roads should be repaired? I don't mind paying for education but I should get a say in what that education looks like. No to vouchers.
jollyandwaylo 5 months ago
@jollyandwaylo I think parents know best when it comes to the education of their children. They know them best and can choose the best school for their child's strengths and weaknesses. As long as schools pass minimum state requirements, schools should have more power over their curriculum to help individualize education. I don't want just robots, slaves to the old school model I'd like to see education help to blossom the child's talents and abilities.
pdxeddie1111 5 months ago
@pdxeddie1111 They can do that now. They want vouchers so they can send their kids to religious schools. I don't want to fund religion any more than I do now -through their unconstitutional tax breaks. School cost would go through the roof, look what happened when Reagan admin pushed for medical products to be able to be advertised directly to the public, costs soared. Vouchers are partly my money and I should get to say what kind of schools we have too.
jollyandwaylo 5 months ago
@jollyandwaylo unconstitutional? Most non profits enjoy that status even the secular ones, you don't hear me screaming about them. and anyways what makes you think it's unconstitutional? Maybe it's unconstitutional to have income tax in the first place. As far as medical expenses are concerned that goes up because of inflation a big part of that is from welfare and most companies when it's publicly funded make government pay premiums over private which creates snowballing inflation.
pdxeddie1111 5 months ago
@pdxeddie1111 Non-profits have to jump through many hoops and keep open books about collecting and distributing money but churches don't. It's unconstitutional because the government is deciding who is a church and who is not. Churches should be treated the same as non-profits, ie, if they are doing charitable work, they should get tax breaks but not just because they are a church. There are many reasons medical is going up but one is advertising, look up what they spend compared to research.
jollyandwaylo 5 months ago
@jollyandwaylo Yes I'll agree with you on the medical as far as there are many reasons for it going up and part of the reason is advertising. You know it seems ethics of advertising went out the window a long time ago because there was a time lawyers couldn't even advertise because it was considered predatory. As far as the Churches are concerned I'll go along with that because I know it would blow up in the state's face.
pdxeddie1111 5 months ago
I could understand a hands-on approach to education, but not at the federal level. Seriously, there are too many differences from state to state to have many hard-set rules for education. Also, if you want more of a focus on evolution at your school, it's easier to change state rules than national ones. And no, belief in a god and evolution are not mutually exclusive, but don't tell that to your average US Christan. I need more space than this comment box to explain my religious beliefs.
CoralChains 5 months ago
The whole reason the country is retarded is because of public education. The more centralized it has become, the dumber we get. Could it be the govt gets exactly what it has paid for -- a bunch of cogs with no real respect for enlightened thinking and self-determination?
mindprism 6 months ago
@mindprism
democratic schools! thats your answer. and to get them (or anything that works for that matter, im not saying that these are the only working schools) you need to have someone like Ron Paul as president...taking away the governments power to fuck with us
alarlol 6 months ago
i think my generation (im in high school in Texas) are going to change everything. we are starting to learn that religion is just a load of crap, and the people who are going to be politicians, presidents, public officials, are going to be rational thinkers who aren't going to throw out logic and reason out of the picture. at my school i know a big group of kids who are anti- theist/ atheist and i can see they are the future, not religious freaks like the rest of my school.
72metallicafan 6 months ago
Being a Libertarian is beside the point.
Fundamental Religious types are only interested in one thing. Power. And they'll use Religion as a control.
Frankly I think it's too late for Texas. Too many simple minded bigots think all they have to do to be a smart good person is to say they're a Republican.
xdassinx 7 months ago
You describe every politician there is, you dumbass.
subaraptor 7 months ago
Building up a system of transparency can help everything. If we can start building a structure of transparency for every field we will see the standard of living world wide slowly improve. Transparency to the government of the people = control/slavery. Transparency to limited sources and hackers of the people and groups = corruption. Transparency to the people of the government, groups and people = understanding and learning.
Stonegoal 8 months ago
a theory is just a theory, but there are facts behind it all are still there. the scientific method is far more important that the scientific establishment.
pcreator 8 months ago
well im from israel
and ron paul always talks against us
although we are the only real liberal democracy in a hateful primitive region
and when he denies evolution it only proves how lame his arguments are
anyways i dont belive in this god delusion either, so keep up the videos , you're cute
ComeonSense1 9 months ago
Pfft, evolution IS just a theory and there are no facts to support it! Just like germs, music, and gravity! Duhhhh. ;D
yukikurama 9 months ago
if yer pissing off peopel you are doing it right keep it rocking
eahazell 9 months ago
The only reason why that video blew up was because many RP supporters are atheists. It's just a personal belief for him.
breakingthe4thwall 10 months ago
Aron-ra is pronounced "Ah-run-ra". just sayin'.
216trixie 10 months ago
AronRa is half messiah and half Klingon, but he's the coolest person on YouTube. I watch all his videos. As for Rep. Ron Paul, he's a cool guy too, he's just cursed by the Texas Board of Education, who has zapped him with "stupid rays."
goosed1 10 months ago
Evolution is only a theory and the bible can't even match that.
Dwicker64 10 months ago
@Dwicker64
I love it when people use evolution being "only a theory" in a serious way to show ID should equal time in the classroom. I always point out to them that gravity is also only a theory, and propose my idea that the invisible leprechaun on my shoulder is holding us all down on earth and preventing us from being flung into space should be given equal time in the classroom. Always confuses them.
PopeAnonymous 10 months ago
Unfortunately, ignorance is easy and imagination usually provides such magical answers. Rationalists will always be out-numbered by fools.
AfraidtoFly 10 months ago
Just stumbled upon you via a friend "liking" this.
Nice vids, I like your style and intelligence! :)
Like Aron, you don't sound like you're originally from Texas. Regardless, I feel your pain with all the religiously fueled nonsense going on down there. :(
OnTheFritz602 10 months ago
@OnTheFritz602 - I'm glad you've found me! I am originally from Texas, but my parents prided themselves on not having very thick accents, and I adopted that mentality. Plus, I was trained in theatre to have less of an accent.
ReligiousFiction 10 months ago
@ReligiousFiction
Ahh, very interesting, and kudos to your Parents and your theatre training! Makes sense now.
Nice to know there are actually some rational Texans!
OnTheFritz602 10 months ago
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tkwelge 3 months ago
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I hope that you are aware that texas does not have an education problem. White, black, and latino students all outscore their companions in almost all other states, but because texas has the largest black/hispanic population, it has a lower straight average.
And no somebody not accepting evolution is not a sign of anything. I know a dozen incredibly intelligent people who are stupid in other areas that aren't their focus. Evolutionary science is not everything. U R an ideologue.
tkwelge 3 months ago
@OnTheFritz602 And i grew up in texas. There is no religious indoctrination in any of the schools that I go to, and 90% of the population doesn't speak with an accent. I mean, come on! You people are disgusting!
tkwelge 3 months ago
I wish politicians would stick to politics, creatards stick to theology, and both groups leave science to scientists. Now, genie, for my second wish....
yeshuahfullofit 10 months ago
I live in Texas. Scientifically illiterate people are taking away my right to a correct education. My Biology teacher doesn't even accept evolution, but that may explain why I know more about it than her.
TheBarkingAtheist 10 months ago
@TheBarkingAtheist um, are you serious? Someone not "accepting" evolution can become a *biology* teacher in Texas?! O.o
vollmuell 10 months ago
@vollmuell I know, thats quite frightening. and yet, here they are.
Horathgar42 8 months ago
"Biology makes sense only in light of evolution." Dobzanski. Conservatives are against evolution, because knowledge of it prevents them from having influence over the people in more than one fields of civil life - religion, the right to have an abortion, the right of homosexuals to feel equal, funding for science, and of course, over education. Any person, concerned about all these human rights, should do their part by speaking out. That's the only way I see of working towards a better future.
dewinthemorning 10 months ago
YAY!!! :D my cat is black too
etazra78 10 months ago
KITTY!!!
TomMSTie1138 10 months ago
awesome. love you
KilluaXIII 10 months ago
Education is the most important way of improving society and no-one should overlook it. It's not only a way to improve and develop the future but also a powerful weapon since basis for opinions and world views form at a young age.
I come from a nation with a great educational system (or so they say) and to me it seems outrageous that something like evolution is not taught or is taught as a "some believe" thingy in public schools.
I could discuss the topic forever but alas I'm out of letters. :'(
Xinadra 10 months ago
I had thoughts about this, but that train was just so well-timed it pretty much destroyed any other thoughts I was having. lol @ the slow motion train wreck, with the horn included. =D
UnitedKingdomify 10 months ago
well, there was a time when the US was a true leader around the world as far as science and innovation. I don't know what the hell happened. Things have changed drastically even in the 20 or so years since I went to school. We are pretty much a laughing stock when it comes to education these days.
tattooskin72 10 months ago
You shouldn't parade your pussy on camera like that, it's not decent :P
SilverTM 10 months ago
I live in South Carolina, and I can say that growing up, evolution was never taught beyond... "some people think we came from monkeys and it took millions of years", about sums it up, on to dissecting frogs.
The problem is, that for one to decide not to agree with evolution, they must first actually understand it.
IntelligentProbe 10 months ago
One of the problems affecting education is that we pay professional athletes in the millions and Scientists only in the thousands. We need the media to put more emphasis on televising intercollegiate competitions in academics rather than the big emphasis on sports. People need to find out that learning is fun and profitable. A fully funded government scholarship program for all qualified students would help. College grads pay more taxes in their lifetimes so they would pay back their scholarship
ebaltrace 10 months ago
hahahahahaha tetrachromatic!!! xD
<3
Lutzifer31337 10 months ago
I saw that black cat! Burn her she's a witch! ;-)
disrxt 10 months ago
@disrxt - Ack! You got me!
ReligiousFiction 10 months ago
@ReligiousFiction
Since we're on the topic of politics. Whats your view on Donald Trump being President?
Foxcanine1 10 months ago
Yeah, I've been thinking for a while that We should have educational requirements for people that hold public office, because obviously there's some no too smart or honest.
akai454 10 months ago
Awesome videos! Luckily I found your channel, you´re so cool.
pololopo23 10 months ago