Heaven nor Hell exists. It is just a place religious nut jobs would like to send those who are non believers. It reflects the theistic hatred of those who don't believe. I agree with what lennyhipp says in his comments because we are intelligent enough to see through the lies, false promises, hypocrisy, bigotry and many many other foul things that religion offers. The bible was made up, the sooner you learn that the sooner you can break free from religion and live your life to the fullest.
No, I am sounding like someone who is getting increasingly frustrated with the person that he is trying to talk to, a person that seems unwilling or unable to listen to what is being said and follow the conversation.
this individual (namely you) is also hell bent on presenting straw man after straw man in some vain attempt to detract away from the fact that he actually stopped making any points of worth more than a day ago!.
WE ARE ALL UNIQUE AND WE ARE NOT ROBOTIC, NO ONE LISTENS TO THEIR PARENTS 100% WE CHOOSE TO FOLLOW OUR PERSONAL CONSCIENCE BEFORE ANYONE ELSE'S AND THATS WHAT MAKES A STRONG CHARACTER, OF COURSE WE ALL HAD WET DREAMS AS CHILDREN BUT IN THIS CASE IT SEEMS THAT CHILDREN SHOULD BE SEPARATED FROM INFANT ADULTS.... get my drift?
The point is, your already programed by the time you get older. the only reason that you believe what you believe is because society/parents etc have programed this into you.
no rational person (in this day and age) who has never herd of Christianity would sit down and deduce that an all powerful being created the world in 6 days, grants wishes, made a place of perfection for us all to go to as long as we follow these ten rules, come on, your deluded man!.
wow. someone who actually thinks using all caps validates his points! I've finally seen it all.
"NO ONE LISTENS TO THEIR PARENTS 100% WE CHOOSE TO FOLLOW OUR PERSONAL CONSCIENCE BEFORE ANYONE ELSE'S"
wholly untrue. We are taught how and what to believe. When you're a child, you don't have enough personal experiences to make an informed and educated opinion, you simply accept. This is called indoctrination... and it's a very scary thing indeed.
wow. someone who actually thinks using all caps validates his points! I've finally seen it all.
"NO ONE LISTENS TO THEIR PARENTS 100% WE CHOOSE TO FOLLOW OUR PERSONAL CONSCIENCE BEFORE ANYONE ELSE'S"
wholly untrue. We are taught how and what to believe. When you're a child, you don't have enough personal experiences to make an informed and educated opinion, you simply accept. This is called indoctrination... and it's a very scary thing indeed!
My parents didn't do this, this came from reading the bible when I was looking for answers.
"HELL IS MORE METAPHORICALLY MEANT IN THE BIBLE"
that's your opinion, prove that what you just said is 100 percent true!!!, I fucking dare you!.
No one ever said that people follow 100% what there parents teach them, where the fuck are you getting this dribble from?, it certainly isn't from me.
i didn't say it was untrue you idiot its just a personal thing to you that your are trying to apply to people, YOU are brainwashing watchers and making a subject which is not spoken of a lot in the bible to something very literal!
what i meant was its ok to say i believe in fairy tales but for me to say to you well dont cry about them is not?
is that not taking the piss or can you really not tell?
ohh so its ok to make jokes on me but not on you, what a real adult you are! face it Joe your imagination made you scared of hell or what ever you cry about and this narrow minded imagery of an opinion of yours has taken the better of you, you take things too literal and turn something that is personal to you apply to all people, this is the first time I've heard someone say that they are scared of hell
I am also still waiting for you tp prove that I am narrow minded
"your imagination made you scared of hell"
That's just about the most repugnant thing I have ever herd. Hell is described as "a fear full place" if the idea of hell does not scare you then their must be something wrong with you.
"you take things too literal and turn something that is personal to you apply to all people, this is the first time I've heard someone say that they are scared of hell"
Well that settles it, you haven't herd it before then it must be untrue.
and you are full of shit mate, i seriously don't have time for losers like you, you just twist what you say, i don't believe in fairy tales and i certainly don't go to bed crying about them ;)
Well that just goes to prove how young you really are.
I tried to be reasonable with you, treat you like an adult and discuss where we have differences, but if your just going to resort to fallacious claims on my charictor and flagrant attacks then your not worth bothering with at all.
If you believe in the following, you believe in fairy tales:
1)unicorns existed 2)dragons existed 3)snakes could talk 4)resurrections 5)virgin births 6)Noah's ark 7)Jonah & the whale 8)jesus healed people 9)jesus could turn water into wine 10)someone can walk on water 11)miracles
12)seas separating on command
These things are in the "buy bull" and they are all silly fairy tales as their is ZERO evidence to support any of them. Lourdes, Turin, padre pio, etc.
another thing Joe, YOU are a victim of your own imagination, you are very narrow minded, so narrow minded that you take my insult as the insult from all modern Christians, have you the slightest idea how bias and narrow that sounds, you also tell me if or not i am a christian and what i am meant to believe in to qualify for it, that to me is a complete joke and the fact that you don't realize it is frightening
You completely missed the point of that. Being a Christian is simply defined by believing that Jesus was the risen lord. What I am saying is most Christians are not constrained by the dictates of their faith and that is a good thing!.
"That to me is a complete joke"
Well, maybe if you had actually listened and understood to what I was saying rather than concoct things that weren't their lol. your essentially presenting a straw man!.
its something i said about a week and a few days ago why are you crying about it in your vid now?? i know exactly what i said ill say it again if you want me to! you can never try to blackmail me with what i've said in the past i used to have some respect for you but your just a bit of hot air, and out of all the comments you've had all the bad language from people you decide me haha i feel blessed
Bad language is one thing, but threats of a violent nature are completely unacceptable and you know that!. No amount of backtracking is going to defer from the truth!.
ahh specifically to me haha have you seen the amount of abuse you have from other people, check your i hate Christmas vid, the person who needs counseling is you man
some people have issues expressing themselves in an acceptable manner. it is mostly the result of unexpressed emotional distress, this builds up over time and they take it out on everyone around them. behavioral counseling would be a good start at resolving this type of antisocial behavior. great work joe always a pleasure hearing a voice of reason.
tbh I lost confidence with my videos/lost things to talk about. Just felt like I was going from theist to theist having to go through the same process of explaining stuff to them...
Joe, I consider you to be a voice of sanity in an otherwise gennerally insane world. Thanks for being strong enough to put yourself out there on the line for those of us who would like to see a more moral world.
Heaven nor Hell exists. It is just a place religious nut jobs would like to send those who are non believers. It reflects the theistic hatred of those who don't believe. I agree with what lennyhipp says in his comments because we are intelligent enough to see through the lies, false promises, hypocrisy, bigotry and many many other foul things that religion offers. The bible was made up, the sooner you learn that the sooner you can break free from religion and live your life to the fullest.
hellion999 2 years ago
What the fuck is that on the back of your head?
Atheist321 3 years ago
Can you be a bit more specific?
joebot1 3 years ago
haha, big man joe, have i finally woke you up, now your sounding like a man, see all that crying is finally paying off! your even using caps now.
Ozmastero 3 years ago
No, I am sounding like someone who is getting increasingly frustrated with the person that he is trying to talk to, a person that seems unwilling or unable to listen to what is being said and follow the conversation.
this individual (namely you) is also hell bent on presenting straw man after straw man in some vain attempt to detract away from the fact that he actually stopped making any points of worth more than a day ago!.
joebot1 3 years ago
WE ARE ALL UNIQUE AND WE ARE NOT ROBOTIC, NO ONE LISTENS TO THEIR PARENTS 100% WE CHOOSE TO FOLLOW OUR PERSONAL CONSCIENCE BEFORE ANYONE ELSE'S AND THATS WHAT MAKES A STRONG CHARACTER, OF COURSE WE ALL HAD WET DREAMS AS CHILDREN BUT IN THIS CASE IT SEEMS THAT CHILDREN SHOULD BE SEPARATED FROM INFANT ADULTS.... get my drift?
Ozmastero 3 years ago
What the fuck are you talking about.
The point is, your already programed by the time you get older. the only reason that you believe what you believe is because society/parents etc have programed this into you.
no rational person (in this day and age) who has never herd of Christianity would sit down and deduce that an all powerful being created the world in 6 days, grants wishes, made a place of perfection for us all to go to as long as we follow these ten rules, come on, your deluded man!.
joebot1 3 years ago
wow. someone who actually thinks using all caps validates his points! I've finally seen it all.
"NO ONE LISTENS TO THEIR PARENTS 100% WE CHOOSE TO FOLLOW OUR PERSONAL CONSCIENCE BEFORE ANYONE ELSE'S"
wholly untrue. We are taught how and what to believe. When you're a child, you don't have enough personal experiences to make an informed and educated opinion, you simply accept. This is called indoctrination... and it's a very scary thing indeed.
lennyhipp 3 years ago
wow. someone who actually thinks using all caps validates his points! I've finally seen it all.
"NO ONE LISTENS TO THEIR PARENTS 100% WE CHOOSE TO FOLLOW OUR PERSONAL CONSCIENCE BEFORE ANYONE ELSE'S"
wholly untrue. We are taught how and what to believe. When you're a child, you don't have enough personal experiences to make an informed and educated opinion, you simply accept. This is called indoctrination... and it's a very scary thing indeed!
lennyhipp 3 years ago
right let me give you a message on behalf of all healthy minded people
WE DO NOT CRY OURSELVES TO SLEEP AT NIGHT BECAUSE OUR PARENTS OR WHO EVER TOUGHED US ABOUT RELIGION SAID THAT WE WOULD GO TO HELL
HELL IS MORE METAPHORICALLY MEANT IN THE BIBLE AND US HEALTHY MINDED PEOPLE WILL NOT 100% FOLLOW WHAT OUR PARENTS TEACH US
Ozmastero 3 years ago
ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED.
How many times have you been told this:-
My parents didn't do this, this came from reading the bible when I was looking for answers.
"HELL IS MORE METAPHORICALLY MEANT IN THE BIBLE"
that's your opinion, prove that what you just said is 100 percent true!!!, I fucking dare you!.
No one ever said that people follow 100% what there parents teach them, where the fuck are you getting this dribble from?, it certainly isn't from me.
joebot1 3 years ago
i didn't say it was untrue you idiot its just a personal thing to you that your are trying to apply to people, YOU are brainwashing watchers and making a subject which is not spoken of a lot in the bible to something very literal!
what i meant was its ok to say i believe in fairy tales but for me to say to you well dont cry about them is not?
is that not taking the piss or can you really not tell?
Ozmastero 3 years ago
real question:-
HAVE YOU EVER ACTUALLY READ THE BIBLE?
I woudl estimate that nearly half of the quotes of Jesus are him preaching about hell.
What is wrong of you is to assert that just because you have never herd of this does not mean it isn't a rampant problem in society.
our personal opinion on the matter is irrelevant, the suffering that this causes people cannot be denied.
joebot1 3 years ago
ohh so its ok to make jokes on me but not on you, what a real adult you are! face it Joe your imagination made you scared of hell or what ever you cry about and this narrow minded imagery of an opinion of yours has taken the better of you, you take things too literal and turn something that is personal to you apply to all people, this is the first time I've heard someone say that they are scared of hell
Ozmastero 3 years ago
"ohh so its ok to make jokes on me"
Prove that I did this!
I am also still waiting for you tp prove that I am narrow minded
"your imagination made you scared of hell"
That's just about the most repugnant thing I have ever herd. Hell is described as "a fear full place" if the idea of hell does not scare you then their must be something wrong with you.
joebot1 3 years ago
"you take things too literal and turn something that is personal to you apply to all people, this is the first time I've heard someone say that they are scared of hell"
Well that settles it, you haven't herd it before then it must be untrue.
Idiot!.
joebot1 3 years ago
and you are full of shit mate, i seriously don't have time for losers like you, you just twist what you say, i don't believe in fairy tales and i certainly don't go to bed crying about them ;)
Ozmastero 3 years ago
Well that just goes to prove how young you really are.
I tried to be reasonable with you, treat you like an adult and discuss where we have differences, but if your just going to resort to fallacious claims on my charictor and flagrant attacks then your not worth bothering with at all.
joebot1 3 years ago
"i don't believe in fairy tales"
If you believe in the following, you believe in fairy tales:
1)unicorns existed 2)dragons existed 3)snakes could talk 4)resurrections 5)virgin births 6)Noah's ark 7)Jonah & the whale 8)jesus healed people 9)jesus could turn water into wine 10)someone can walk on water 11)miracles
12)seas separating on command
These things are in the "buy bull" and they are all silly fairy tales as their is ZERO evidence to support any of them. Lourdes, Turin, padre pio, etc.
lennyhipp 3 years ago
another thing Joe, YOU are a victim of your own imagination, you are very narrow minded, so narrow minded that you take my insult as the insult from all modern Christians, have you the slightest idea how bias and narrow that sounds, you also tell me if or not i am a christian and what i am meant to believe in to qualify for it, that to me is a complete joke and the fact that you don't realize it is frightening
Ozmastero 3 years ago
"YOU are a victim of your own imagination"
Hardly, your the one that believes in fairy tales ;p.
"you are very narrow minded"
I dare you to qualify that statement!.
"you take my insult as the insult from all modern Christians"
No I didn't lol, I said that IF this was the view. Your imagination playing tricks on you?
joebot1 3 years ago
"you also tell me if or not i am a christian"
You completely missed the point of that. Being a Christian is simply defined by believing that Jesus was the risen lord. What I am saying is most Christians are not constrained by the dictates of their faith and that is a good thing!.
"That to me is a complete joke"
Well, maybe if you had actually listened and understood to what I was saying rather than concoct things that weren't their lol. your essentially presenting a straw man!.
joebot1 3 years ago
its something i said about a week and a few days ago why are you crying about it in your vid now?? i know exactly what i said ill say it again if you want me to! you can never try to blackmail me with what i've said in the past i used to have some respect for you but your just a bit of hot air, and out of all the comments you've had all the bad language from people you decide me haha i feel blessed
Ozmastero 3 years ago
this video has been up for days lol.
Bad language is one thing, but threats of a violent nature are completely unacceptable and you know that!. No amount of backtracking is going to defer from the truth!.
joebot1 3 years ago
Stupid frickin' theists.
Domzdream 3 years ago
ahh specifically to me haha have you seen the amount of abuse you have from other people, check your i hate Christmas vid, the person who needs counseling is you man
Ozmastero 3 years ago
I don't believe I said you need counseling.
There is a difference between abuse and threats of violence.
joebot1 3 years ago
my chilldren?? im 17 LOL good structured speech, if only i had the time i would make a better one :P
Ozmastero 3 years ago
That is irrelevant and you know full well!.
You know what you said!.
joebot1 3 years ago
Not exactly Christ-like are they?
someweirdgayguy 3 years ago
Well said, mah boi.
Annausagi2 3 years ago
some people have issues expressing themselves in an acceptable manner. it is mostly the result of unexpressed emotional distress, this builds up over time and they take it out on everyone around them. behavioral counseling would be a good start at resolving this type of antisocial behavior. great work joe always a pleasure hearing a voice of reason.
jdf088 3 years ago
nice video!
cozmikzen 3 years ago
Who was it? o.o
MementoMori88 3 years ago
DAMN LOL, IO forgot to put it up, I shall sort it.
joebot1 3 years ago
Where have you been anyway? lol
joebot1 3 years ago
still about lol lurking :P
MementoMori88 3 years ago
We need you man, there are far too of us holding back all these crazy fundies!!!!.
Missed you dude!.
joebot1 3 years ago
tbh I lost confidence with my videos/lost things to talk about. Just felt like I was going from theist to theist having to go through the same process of explaining stuff to them...
MementoMori88 3 years ago
Joe, I consider you to be a voice of sanity in an otherwise gennerally insane world. Thanks for being strong enough to put yourself out there on the line for those of us who would like to see a more moral world.
lloydhofer 3 years ago
Well, that's very nice of you to say, thanks man!! ;D
joebot1 3 years ago
Nice one, Joe. I shudder to imagine the mind of the person you are addressing.
philhellenes 3 years ago
In all fairness, I think his comments were just a knee jerk reaction, but I just wanted to hammer the message home.
I don't think he truly thinks that you can assault people that disagree with you lol.
Again, this thing of people just getting far to enraged about something that is merely a disagreement of opinion.
why the fuck do people do this lol.
joebot1 3 years ago
Nice one dude
BeerIdol 3 years ago