The only thing I've never liked about traditional Muay Thai is the lack of emphasis on boxing technique, which is more a fault of the traditional scoring system than a fault of the art itself. An example of Japanese kickboxing that has a high emphasis on boxing technique is fighters like Masato (K1 MAX) who I believe struck an advantage by having superior boxing to most fighters.
@deadwood223 uninformed...Sasiprapa home of world boxing champion Torsak Ponsupa and about a dozen other top 10 western boxing contenders.If you dont see a western boxing technique in muay thai it is because it has been weeded out due to ineffectiveness or because it will put you in the hospital.No disrespect to Masato,who is a great fighter,but have you ever wondered why his "superior" boxing never translated to any significant time in the upper ranks of full rules muay thai?
@deadwood223 hhh like i said..you're uninformed.John W. Parr,Buakow and several other who have fought in K-1 max fight full rules muay thai as well.Nobody is going to to make a living only fighting K-1 max.Which is only once a year and the only time you get the grand prize of 60,000 or so u.s dollars.is if you win the whole tounament.Certainly not something to base your career on.If you are a kickboxer and want to be the best ,you fight full muay thai rules.Period.
@deadwood223 uninformed...Sasiprapa home of world boxing champion Torsak Pongsupa and about a dozen other top 10 western boxing contenders.If you dont see a western boxing technique in muay thai it is because it has been weeded out due to ineffectiveness or because it will put you in the hospital.No disrespect to Masato,who is a great fighter,but have you ever wondered why his "superior" boxing never translated to any significant time in the upper ranks of full rules muay thai?
@deadwood223 Let's not forget the other ''advantage'' Masato had... Japanese referees!! In all fairness the same thing could be said about foreigners fighting in Thailand, and Masato, even though I believe he wasn't the best, was still an amazing fighter.
the video presented has some very good parts. every one should expect there pad man to handel knee practice the same way .. one hand held pad the other simulated escape attempts and reattacting,,
too many schools dont allow kneers to hold onto the pad mans neck or body during regular work outs.. EVERY STUDENT OF MUAY THAI SHOULD BE MADE TO WATCH AND STUDY AND REMEMBER THESE INSTRUCTIONS.. THERE ARE MANY NOK MUAY THAI WHO DONT KNOW WHAT GOOD TRAINING IS FROM BAD!!
Muay Thai is brute force man. Ive never seen people strike as hard Thai fighters, never ever. Maybe boxers can strike harder with punches but Thai fighters have the most powerful kicks EVER and knees and elbows that are also crazy powerful.
i disagree, there is no epitome, its a fantastic striking art, but the epitome?. kyokushin, san shou. they are also fantastic striking arts, check out some of the fights with muay thai
@ironwarrior77 They fight all the time in China and Japan. Everyone knows that MT is absolutely much better overall. That's why MT gyms are springing up all over Japan and China.
@butaicho dudeee, theres never ever ever ever ever a "best martial art" It's all about the utilisation of your art and how you use it to fight...Look at Machida, he uses his Karate and beat up most of the muay thai guys he faced, and shogun came along and used his Muay Thai to beat Shogun, there's never a best martial art, only the best way you, personally can utilise it.
@ironwarrior77 I never said "best" I said better overall. Think about it for a minute. In the fast evolving, highly competitive word of MMA, do you see any Tai Chi fighters or Wushi fighters.? Most fighters employ some basic techniques that are inherantly from Muay Thai. You see it all the time. Clinch, knees, Round kicks etc. The fighters may hail from different backgrounds but before they step in the ring, they develop some MT techniques.
@butaicho Dude, i've watched many many many K1 Muay Thai ruled fights and my opinion is not changed.
and I fully agree that muay thai techniques are utilised by martial artists of different bases, but that doesn't mean muay thai is better overall, If a kyokushin fighter was fighting in an MMA fight and used a spinning back elbow and clinched and knocked his opponent out with a knee, that wouldn't say muay thai is better, he just used a technique from another
@butaicho art in his arsenal that was a good move at the particular time of execution. If a wrestler used an uchi mata throw or a kosoto gari well often in his fights, that doesn't mean to say judo is better at taking people down in fights than wrestling.
And about Tai Chi and Wing Chun, i agree there aren't many practitioners in MMA but again that doesn't help your argument as it just means more people utilise muay thai as their base in MMA, but not that it's "better overall", look at
@butaichoCung Le, he's ran over majority of his opponents with majorly his san shou, but again, that doesn't mean san shou is better overall than muay thai, it just means he utilised it well against his opponents.
I think that many people choose muay thai because 1. it's popularity and 2. the learning curve is quite swift (but obviously to get good you must spend time). What I mean by my second point is as soon as you go to a class your pretty much kicking
@butaicho and hitting pads and being taught all sorts of more complex techniques and so there's a lot of action right away and a lot of preparation for a fight (hence people go into fights 3 weeks into training), where as an art like Karate it's a lot about doing the same movement for a long amount of time until you have a good grounding in that particular move and then moving to the next (which understandably people would not really like to do).
@butaicho head and saying that one is better than the other, just because of the main techniques used in them, you can only compare utilisation of each. I think rather than looking at a martial art and marginalising it to a set of rules, regulations and strict techniques, the key to doing well is to make it your own, add a tweak here and there to make it better for your own personal execution of it.
@butaicho And research? not enough information? Please man, I've been participating in martial arts for the past 14 years, i've done my research homie lol
@SitPhraNaret You are so inaccurate. There's no sense of logic, just pure emotion because he's your teacher. I appreciate the Mentor - disciple relationship. But if you want to become a fighter (not dancer) then go where the fighters go.
I am the guy that posted this video and am also the one that filmed it. The comment that you have posted these replies to were done with sarcasm in mind. I am not sure that you 'get' sarcasm so to just reassure you I have been practicing Muay Thai for 15+years under Chinawut Sirisompan (aka Grandmaster Woody) and I believe that the number one stand up martial art is Muay Thai.
I see you have watched a few of the other vids that I have posted. Did you enjoy them?
Muay Thai seems ok, but they have no defense against attacks that address chi directly. I am pretty sure my sifu could knock most of these guys with his northern mantis style.
@JasonWho13 What? You're high, right? Watch too many king fu movies? After the death of Bruce Lee, during the 70's there was a group of Hong Kongs 10 best Master who came to Bangkok for an exhibition fight against 10 current MT fighters. OK get ready for this...All the kung fu masters lost their fight in 1st and 2nd round K.O.. this is documented. 5 yrs later , same thing happened again. The only chinese martial art that I have seen that compares to MT id San Shou & Wing Chun. Or today's JKD.
God, that video was beautiful. Pad work is my favorite thing to do in the whole world. It's by far the number one most important part of training, and it's what seperates Muay Thai from other arts in terms of developing proficiency and explosiveness. THOSE guys in that video KNOW what they are doing.
@yun131 hey hey hey, Muay Thai is nice and fancy too! :D
PanavisionLove 9 months ago
is that a idget?
MrDcnmmdl15 11 months ago
@MrDcnmmdl15 A idget?
SitPhraNaret 11 months ago
The only thing I've never liked about traditional Muay Thai is the lack of emphasis on boxing technique, which is more a fault of the traditional scoring system than a fault of the art itself. An example of Japanese kickboxing that has a high emphasis on boxing technique is fighters like Masato (K1 MAX) who I believe struck an advantage by having superior boxing to most fighters.
deadwood223 1 year ago
@deadwood223
I kinda see where you are at with that idea.
However Muay Thai, like other ring sports, was designed to fight its own style.
I think if K1 allowed full Thai rules fighters, like Masato, would struggle. Even with his 'extra' emphasis on boxing!
SitPhraNaret 1 year ago
@deadwood223 uninformed...Sasiprapa home of world boxing champion Torsak Ponsupa and about a dozen other top 10 western boxing contenders.If you dont see a western boxing technique in muay thai it is because it has been weeded out due to ineffectiveness or because it will put you in the hospital.No disrespect to Masato,who is a great fighter,but have you ever wondered why his "superior" boxing never translated to any significant time in the upper ranks of full rules muay thai?
KilroyWasHere444 9 months ago 2
@KilroyWasHere444 Yes I have actually wondered that, and the answer is very simple:
There is far and beyond more money in K1
deadwood223 9 months ago
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KilroyWasHere444 9 months ago
@deadwood223 hhh like i said..you're uninformed.John W. Parr,Buakow and several other who have fought in K-1 max fight full rules muay thai as well.Nobody is going to to make a living only fighting K-1 max.Which is only once a year and the only time you get the grand prize of 60,000 or so u.s dollars.is if you win the whole tounament.Certainly not something to base your career on.If you are a kickboxer and want to be the best ,you fight full muay thai rules.Period.
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@deadwood223 uninformed...Sasiprapa home of world boxing champion Torsak Pongsupa and about a dozen other top 10 western boxing contenders.If you dont see a western boxing technique in muay thai it is because it has been weeded out due to ineffectiveness or because it will put you in the hospital.No disrespect to Masato,who is a great fighter,but have you ever wondered why his "superior" boxing never translated to any significant time in the upper ranks of full rules muay thai?
KilroyWasHere444 9 months ago
@deadwood223 Let's not forget the other ''advantage'' Masato had... Japanese referees!! In all fairness the same thing could be said about foreigners fighting in Thailand, and Masato, even though I believe he wasn't the best, was still an amazing fighter.
IamAlwaysRight 1 month ago
the video presented has some very good parts. every one should expect there pad man to handel knee practice the same way .. one hand held pad the other simulated escape attempts and reattacting,,
too many schools dont allow kneers to hold onto the pad mans neck or body during regular work outs.. EVERY STUDENT OF MUAY THAI SHOULD BE MADE TO WATCH AND STUDY AND REMEMBER THESE INSTRUCTIONS.. THERE ARE MANY NOK MUAY THAI WHO DONT KNOW WHAT GOOD TRAINING IS FROM BAD!!
THIS IS GOOD TRAINING...
FUSSYMUAYTHAI 1 year ago
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machida aint no floyd , i like da negga.
floyd asking for a drug test that shiet made me laugh.
why u gotta be a girl flyod.
he didn asked juan marquez ,a floyd mayweather type of drug test
that shows floyd is kfc
pump3344 1 year ago
How is the Sasiprapa gym overall? good or bad? anybody who trained there?
Im going to train in thailand for 2 months maybe more, need to have some options!
7AAA7 1 year ago
@7AAA7 I'd say it is an excellent gym staffed by experienced fighters and coaches alike.
But then I am biased.
SitPhraNaret 1 year ago
anybody know where i can find a WESTERN QUEENSBERRY RULES gym in bangkok, im doing my nut trying to find one
MrJohntalbot 2 years ago
i rekon ey if chi so strong show us
choggyfloggy 2 years ago
also the padholders are awesome
suriya883 3 years ago 2
hahah yeah chi if its so powerfull show us give us an example in the ring then you prove your point but for now muaythai reamins NUMBER1
choggyfloggy 3 years ago 3
Muay Thai is brute force man. Ive never seen people strike as hard Thai fighters, never ever. Maybe boxers can strike harder with punches but Thai fighters have the most powerful kicks EVER and knees and elbows that are also crazy powerful.
Drewski1316 3 years ago 2
@Drewski1316 So True !
butaicho 1 year ago
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Drewski1316 3 years ago
i disagree, there is no epitome, its a fantastic striking art, but the epitome?. kyokushin, san shou. they are also fantastic striking arts, check out some of the fights with muay thai
ironwarrior77 3 years ago
@ironwarrior77 They fight all the time in China and Japan. Everyone knows that MT is absolutely much better overall. That's why MT gyms are springing up all over Japan and China.
butaicho 1 year ago
@butaicho dudeee, theres never ever ever ever ever a "best martial art" It's all about the utilisation of your art and how you use it to fight...Look at Machida, he uses his Karate and beat up most of the muay thai guys he faced, and shogun came along and used his Muay Thai to beat Shogun, there's never a best martial art, only the best way you, personally can utilise it.
ironwarrior77 1 year ago
@ironwarrior77 sorry i meant "shogun used his muay thai to beat machida"
ironwarrior77 1 year ago
@ironwarrior77 I never said "best" I said better overall. Think about it for a minute. In the fast evolving, highly competitive word of MMA, do you see any Tai Chi fighters or Wushi fighters.? Most fighters employ some basic techniques that are inherantly from Muay Thai. You see it all the time. Clinch, knees, Round kicks etc. The fighters may hail from different backgrounds but before they step in the ring, they develop some MT techniques.
butaicho 1 year ago
@ironwarrior77
butaicho 1 year ago
@ironwarrior77 watch K1 MT practitioners rule, not Kyokushin, Research , homie, You do not have enough information.
butaicho 1 year ago
@butaicho Dude, i've watched many many many K1 Muay Thai ruled fights and my opinion is not changed.
and I fully agree that muay thai techniques are utilised by martial artists of different bases, but that doesn't mean muay thai is better overall, If a kyokushin fighter was fighting in an MMA fight and used a spinning back elbow and clinched and knocked his opponent out with a knee, that wouldn't say muay thai is better, he just used a technique from another
ironwarrior77 1 year ago
@butaicho art in his arsenal that was a good move at the particular time of execution. If a wrestler used an uchi mata throw or a kosoto gari well often in his fights, that doesn't mean to say judo is better at taking people down in fights than wrestling.
And about Tai Chi and Wing Chun, i agree there aren't many practitioners in MMA but again that doesn't help your argument as it just means more people utilise muay thai as their base in MMA, but not that it's "better overall", look at
ironwarrior77 1 year ago
@butaichoCung Le, he's ran over majority of his opponents with majorly his san shou, but again, that doesn't mean san shou is better overall than muay thai, it just means he utilised it well against his opponents.
I think that many people choose muay thai because 1. it's popularity and 2. the learning curve is quite swift (but obviously to get good you must spend time). What I mean by my second point is as soon as you go to a class your pretty much kicking
ironwarrior77 1 year ago
@butaicho and hitting pads and being taught all sorts of more complex techniques and so there's a lot of action right away and a lot of preparation for a fight (hence people go into fights 3 weeks into training), where as an art like Karate it's a lot about doing the same movement for a long amount of time until you have a good grounding in that particular move and then moving to the next (which understandably people would not really like to do).
My point is, you can't compare 2 arts head to
ironwarrior77 1 year ago
@butaicho head and saying that one is better than the other, just because of the main techniques used in them, you can only compare utilisation of each. I think rather than looking at a martial art and marginalising it to a set of rules, regulations and strict techniques, the key to doing well is to make it your own, add a tweak here and there to make it better for your own personal execution of it.
,
ironwarrior77 1 year ago
@butaicho And research? not enough information? Please man, I've been participating in martial arts for the past 14 years, i've done my research homie lol
ironwarrior77 1 year ago
yun131. Couldn't have said it better myself.
MTsomboBJJ 3 years ago
BS MUAY THAI FIGHTERS PWN ALL STYLES
kasakee 4 years ago 2
to me in the stand up its the best. next is TKD because I love all the fancy kicks.
tigerninja14 2 years ago
That's how you hit thai pads.
AnacondaS1996 4 years ago
there is a resaon we dont see chi used in rings
its cos it dont work bud
tamzatank 5 years ago 2
Nice video. I wish my wife would use her Nth Mantis Style chi stuff and hurry up with my breakfast...
aia90 5 years ago
hahah what, northern mantis and chi...hahaha no way, u got to be joking.
kissmyskinnywhiteass 5 years ago
Beware the Northern Mantis style of Jasons sifu. He could prbably kick the ass of most of the worlds MT champs.
SitPhraNaret 5 years ago
@SitPhraNaret I doubt it seriously. No disrespect.
butaicho 1 year ago
@butaicho No really. Jasons Sifu is probably the best in the world, thats why he is so well known on the fight circuit.
SitPhraNaret 1 year ago
@SitPhraNaret You are so inaccurate. There's no sense of logic, just pure emotion because he's your teacher. I appreciate the Mentor - disciple relationship. But if you want to become a fighter (not dancer) then go where the fighters go.
butaicho 1 year ago
@butaicho Hi there butaicho.
I am the guy that posted this video and am also the one that filmed it. The comment that you have posted these replies to were done with sarcasm in mind. I am not sure that you 'get' sarcasm so to just reassure you I have been practicing Muay Thai for 15+years under Chinawut Sirisompan (aka Grandmaster Woody) and I believe that the number one stand up martial art is Muay Thai.
I see you have watched a few of the other vids that I have posted. Did you enjoy them?
SitPhraNaret 1 year ago
Muay Thai seems ok, but they have no defense against attacks that address chi directly. I am pretty sure my sifu could knock most of these guys with his northern mantis style.
JasonWho13 5 years ago
Yes.
SitPhraNaret 5 years ago
hahaahahahahhaahaha joker
mrsausage 5 years ago
chi is crap. what is that? how bout a cro cop kick to someone's chi b.s. and that would knock him into an oblivion.
MMAbadboy 5 years ago 2
go away idiot and fire that mantis up your arse
logi03 5 years ago
@JasonWho13 What? You're high, right? Watch too many king fu movies? After the death of Bruce Lee, during the 70's there was a group of Hong Kongs 10 best Master who came to Bangkok for an exhibition fight against 10 current MT fighters. OK get ready for this...All the kung fu masters lost their fight in 1st and 2nd round K.O.. this is documented. 5 yrs later , same thing happened again. The only chinese martial art that I have seen that compares to MT id San Shou & Wing Chun. Or today's JKD.
butaicho 1 year ago
Boo is one of the nicest fighters i met during my stay in thailand, helped me a lot with clinchwork for my fight.
muaytommy 5 years ago
@muaytommy My gym trains at Sasiprapas in Bangkok. Boo is great also Ajarn Thakoon.
butaicho 1 year ago
Training in Thailand is the way to go.
waynegon 5 years ago
they have experience you can see it!!
great.
coolcruise 5 years ago
God, that video was beautiful. Pad work is my favorite thing to do in the whole world. It's by far the number one most important part of training, and it's what seperates Muay Thai from other arts in terms of developing proficiency and explosiveness. THOSE guys in that video KNOW what they are doing.
thaifighter83 5 years ago
*good quality footage*
barsx101 5 years ago
do you have any more footage of this guy? his technique is dead on. good stuff
barsx101 5 years ago
Man those thais are fast!
iloveyou75 5 years ago