SHOCKING! See Why You Need Self Defense Products | Bystander Effect

[lozzydutto4]

i can't believe that that amount of people would ignore a situation like this. i once drove past an elderly women who had fell over in the street with my mum and we both decided to stop and help her, luckily it was nothing really serious but we still hepled even though it made us late.

[adsasfd]

when i was 16 a guy fell over in front of me but i just thought he was drunk he had messy hair and he slurred his words i wanted to help. I was with a friend and i was going to help him but my mate kept on walking so i followed suit. Shortly before we left a man helped him up and said are you alright. After that i vowed never to do that again and to this day i help every i see on the street. because you get this bad feeling in your stomach when you dont help someone in need, i dont like that.

[KennyReddwooddforest]

Guillermo Vargas should get the death sentence. But instead the Central American Biennial of Art asked him to do another exhibit with another dog in the same way. He had starved the dog he used for the exhibit to death. And they want him to do this again. Care 2 has a petition now for people to sign to stop this exhibit with another dog. Please, everybody, sign this urgent petition.

[KennyReddwooddforest]

In 2008 the "artist" Guillermo Vargas starved a dog to death as a form of "art" in an art exhibit in South America. People were standing around the dog who was tied to a rope in the corner, the dog was skin and bones and he could not even lift his head up any more he was so weak. People were standing around the dog with glasses of champagne laughing and talking as if they were standing next to a statue made out of metal. Nobody said anything, nobody freed the dog, nobody confronted the artist.

[ImaginAur]

I've been a Domestic Violence Advocate for 35 years and see this phenomenon over and over again by family members, neighbors, and co-workers of continued blatant physical abuse of the victim. NO ONE wants to get involved. South Carolina currently ranks 7th in the nation for Domestic Violence (per capita deaths) because NO ONE wants to get involved.

[Ninety9Soulz]

Rorschach's journal..

[OdeToNecrophilia]

i dont believe its a "bystander effect" or any sort of pattern... its completely random.....

[Numbuh7]

@OdeToNecrophilia Well then you're ignoring reality. The bystander effect is essentially fact. Not that it applies to everyone, but it is what society pushes forward.

[SpOnSoRuNM]

@OdeToNecrophilia search for the bystander effect social experiment and see for yourself

[WTF1920]

Yup, always got my can of Saber Red 10% OC spray with me. I carry it like I carry my wallet or cell phone; it's always on me.

[easyway2001]

Waisted 2:31 of my life I thought I was going to see somebody get hurt.

[seliinaXD]

@easyway2001 go kill yourself

[Cacowninja]

6 people... Well I'm not going to joke about them since this is a serious video.

[MissDiss68]

I'm watching a playlist on psychology/psychological issues. I Wiki'ed "The Bystander Effect" and found the Kitty Genovese case, so sad that in a "golden age" that could happen. If it happened then, what hope do we have now. I'd like to think that if something like that was happening in my street, I'd do something...But I've never been in that position so I truly don't know. I've helped people who have fallen over in the street or had a fight in the pub, but if the attacker had a weapon? I dunno!

[darklight2501]

The case is an urban myth, there is evidence that the police were called and attended but failed to find her.

[drcyeah]

Although I was skeptical at first, I decided to give it a try and downloaded the free e-book recommended on this video. I must say I am impressed. It is 83 pages long, it comes packed with really useful information (it even includes one full chapter on the Kitty Genovese case), and it is well illustrated (which is rare for an e-book nowadays). It is an easy read. Very interesting as well. A must-read if you are interested in defending yourself against crime using non-lethal weapons.

[rayne870]

@drcyeah

i might have to check that out, i want myself, my fiance and my future children to be safe.

[livexthexlife192]

goodness its so sick that we as humanity can just stand by and do nothing while we witness wrong. we were discussing this case in my pscyh class today and my teacher read us some more from recently. like that california girl who was raped in the parkin lot at her homecoming and people just watched and took videos and noone reported it. sick.

[321WolfLink123]

I like how the video is about social psychology and the description is blabbing about self-defense :P

[reza4]

negative psychological/moral effects of capitalism(free enterprise) on humanity- work, buy, cosume and die.. if this happens in an unselfish society people would hang the fucker on sight.if you harass or abuse any one on the streets of a cultured people who are not mass consumers and selfish you will get a beating this is what happens in a society that obey and has become idol worshipers and the idol being material and consuming.It is sad to see this happening to the United Estates

[ChristusVlCTOR]

These Psychologists who make excuses for the sinfulness of man, are going to stand before Akmighty God one day, and all their "excuses" aren't gonna save them! This is evil, pure and simple.

[FliqpyHT]

Thumbs up if you're from PSYC 1200

[slyrader1]

i have a 9mm for this very reason

[iLuvYooh000000]

WOW. they couldn't even call 911? the nosy bastards just sat and watched? you can't be serious!

[Apathyisthenewpissed]

@iLuvYooh000000 Yeah its awful but not unusual. People feel that if they call 911 or the police, they might get involved. They might be questioned by police or the 911 caller. What people don't think about is that you can make calls and be anonymous. What people need to do is ALWAYS call. You will not be involved necessarily, but you may save a life. If it is not that serious ( a woman just screaming because she is crazy) than you may actually help save her from herself. ALWAYS CALL!

[daheat0627]

@iLuvYooh000000 -she was family of the Genovese Crime Family, chances are this was a revenge kill for something she did or her family did to someone (from another crime family) --i don't condone the actions of not helping someone in need but, around this time period (early 60's) --who wanted to volunteer to get wrapped up in Organized Crime and their Business? If you did, chances are= you would be next......just a thought. Tragic story none the less.......

[SoleMan117]

The world may be going to Hell, all may be rape, starvation and death, but this story is a prime example of why we should never compromise.

Even in the face of Armageddon

[Cacowninja]

@SoleMan117 Say Wha?

[SoleMan117]

@Cacowninja It's from something.

[iTzAuStiiin]

if this was in the south youd have a shot gun bullet in your head before you could even stab her

[QBisbest]

New Yorkers still haven't changed, they still don't care for others or help the dying. There was a homeless man who was recently stabbed for saving a woman from a man with a knife, no one helped him and he died. People from New York are the worst set of individuals around.

[legallyinsane456]

She had a pretty cool name too.

[Algonkin1964]

There's no hope for the huma race...it how we are.

[ronny888san]

should have cooked that eggplant long time ago ....at birth

[stereophonic77]

uh anyone notice that the woman at the end is the exact same woman who also walked by 2 seconds earlier in the video? the entire video is a staged simulation.

[mrbrockpeters]

This pretty much what happened with Bill Nye The Science guy at the university!

[natevines]

The story has essentially become a parable to teach people a lesson.

The fact is many people said they wanted to contact the police, but thought others would have already done it so they'd just be tying up the lines unnecessarily. I don't think anyone here could be called apathetic, they were all acting rationally.

[EconomicsHF]

Check out Superfreakonomics. There is a chapter on Altruism and Apathy that examines this case. The research reveals some interesting facts about this case and what happened. In short, she didn't get raped on the street in plain view for 30 minutes. The attack occurred in several different places, the bulk of which was INSIDE the common areas of an apartment building. The story a 30 min assault with dozens of onlookers is a myth. As a psych teacher, I was shocked to learn this.

[ShutUpH00ker]

@EconomicsHF

I'm more shocked to learn that Mosley is still alive. What a great justice for Kitty, this piece of shit should have been executed decades ago.

[jenheartgiraffe]

once a man looked out his window and told that necrophiliac scum to get away from her, which he complied to, but then the rapist realized the man had turned off his light and evidently gone back to bed. so he continued his assault. it's so fucking insane. he could've saved a live by just STICKING HIS HEAD OUT A FUCKING WINDOW. what an ass.

[ShutUpH00ker]

@jenheartgiraffe

But that guy didn't know Kitty had been mortally wounded, he heard her scream and then leave and thought she was safe/ had fled and Mosley had left in the opposite direction..

The true sadness of this [after Kitty's death] is the fact that an unrepentant Mosley is still alive when he should have been executed decades ago.

[crazysim9]

who knows, maybe she was a filthy whore who nobody liked. i wouldnt help here either if she was.

[ExesandErin]

@crazysim9 What are you, 14? Even if she was, why would that instantly remove her right to life? Everyone on the planet right now deserves to be here. NO ONE has the right to decide who lives and dies. Grow up and realise that Kitty Genovese was a person. She was a daughter and a sister. She meant everything to some people. The fact that none of that means anything to you shows how pathetic and immature you are.

[coxpatricia71]

May her spririt rest in peace and I don't see how the those people could live withselves.

[SerenityShootingStar]

@ClubpenguinVsulyl

No, they were COWARDS. :l Ever since I heard of this tragedy, I vowed to never let myself be a bystander. I'll help someone if they call for me, or if they just need a hand. No matter what.

[MrKyleSchick]

BOONDOCK SAINTS

[BDRioga]

i don't fear getting stabbed, what i fear the most is just dying on the street and nobody giving a shit about me.... or calling the ambulance.

[dfan]

Meow :(

[mrs1987corona]

i wrote a paper about this for my college English class, such a sad story, people would look outside their window, close the shades and not do a thing...sad

[u2ber212]

* bird

[u2ber212]

this isnt one bit racial it has nothing what so ever to do with dosent matter what race the killer was it was a bired holding a knife in its claws stabbing her, the point people saw someone getting stabbed to death and did nothing they didnt even call the police.

Most people dont know how to react to a stiuation like that or simply dont have the balls to do so.

may she rest in peace

[itpduder]

In a city environ, things are different. I see drunks and druggies everywhere and my perception of emergency is dampened because the occurrences of a drunk stumbling about is common.

But it does seem the stabbing death of that woman was out of the norm. "Help, I'm being stabbed" would perk my ears. But then again, I didn't live in NYC at that time. Was NYC that nuts? I've been to NYC twice and can believe it. It's a cesspool.

[SarahAli88]

The bystanders were not at fault here, and there weren't 38 bystanders. There were 12 people and 2 people (the people who actually saw in detail the occurrence) called the police.

[NinetiesYouth]

@SarahAli88 Hi

[HugoBon1]

I already dislike school and my ignorant colleagues but after discovering this story, I detest society

[alexhiggins80]

@HugoBon1 Don't give up on society just yet - the story of this case is more complicated than that and the legend of people staring and doing nothing is actually inaccurate.

[OverlordRulerOfAll]

@alexhiggins80 but does any of that change the outcome? is she any less dead? does that make the neighbours any less passive?

more importantly the complexities you mention have been understood for over 40 years - has anything changed with that knowledge that means it never happened again, or that there is no chance of this happening to someone, somewhere, tomorrow?

The answer is: No, to all. and it CAN'T change. this just exposes how they way we live exposes weaknesses in our psychology.

[OverlordRulerOfAll]

@alexhiggins80 i understand where you're going, it is often not "society" that is all bad, it is often the shape we have forced it into - megapoli where no-one knows their neighbour - and that has many consequences. some we can do something about easily, and some we can't as they are due to our inate programming - they just require engineering: efforts in socialisation and community. We have failed only as we're too interested in TV, material shit and ourselves. - "society" can get screwed.

[jazzgaara14]

@jiggaboohoo,exactly whom do you mean with average person? because average looking people can be surprisingly strong,and I'm guessing that you fought alot of untrained,non-aggressive,zero experienced people so yeah you prolly could kill them,however I find it hard to believe this,since if you did do all that those would all count as attempted murders since you brought them to an inch of their lives,shouldnt you be in jail,and if I saw you beating someone in the street,I'd kick you in the throat

[reenlist82]

More gun laws just will equal more crimes wit guns its human nature we see more laws and your telling me were gonna try to abide by it? Some Americans can hardly abide by the traffic laws and how are they going to abide by more gun laws? That,s what we all need some more gun laws cause some dummy with a gun ruins it for everybody else.All its going to do it seems to me is make it harder for people to defend themselves with guns already who own them legally and already abide by gun laws.

[lemonlorry]

Rorschach's excuse.

[smitehz]

to me it would probably just look like a typical nigger beating up his coal burner girlfriend. i wouldn't have done anything, either. maybe laugh.

[ZEITGEISTism]

smitehz

But it wasnt was it ? it was a MURDER Well least your an honest moronic shit

[TMGPREZ]

as i lye here in bed with my balls being rubbed by your moms we are both disgusted by the use of the n-word as in you or also black your no ritz cracker your an oreo cookie.U milk Colored Boys Are So Egotistical It's So Funny.

[sirsteven88]

What the fuck are you even talking about? I see absolutely no relevance whatsoever.

[EJR914]

This is in reference to the author... why non-lethal weapons?  do you not believe in self-defense?

[SarahMic90]

If no-one carried weapons no-one would get hurt in the fist place. The constitution is outdated and irresponsable in todays world.

[9teen7t4camaro]

you stupid democrat

[SarahMic90]

No not a democrat, just British. Here in the UK gun tolerance is almost non-existant. The only major crimes we see, or mass murders geerally invove guns - therefore we abhor them. I don't understand how the US can be so tolerant of them when they cause so much death and destruction - did Columbine not teach you anything?

[jiggaboohoo]

@SarahMic90 ? ive bashed plenty of people with in an inch of their lives with my hands, i could have killed them if id had the mind to, im sure i could bash to death the average person in the street without any problem and without the help of more than my hands.. im sure you and people like you would walk away and say nothing :)

[SarahMic90]

Well obviously you are far too aggressive for your own good and I hope someone puts a stop to it soon. As for me walking away.... it doesn't matter if that's true or not as you have no way of true judging me or anyone else without meeting and getting to know them. Take your ignorance elsewhere.

[leb817]

Sarah, here is the problem with your line of thinking. You CANNOT unarm the whole world. You can put in place stricter gun laws, etc. But, guess who those laws effect? LAW ABIDING citizens. The people that you DON'T WANT carrying, are not going to follow the law. They are the ones that will ALWAYS BE ARMED. John Q citizen however, will no longer be armed due to the stricter laws. They will have lost their right to defend themselves.

Understand now?

[SarahMic90]

Yes I understand, do not patronise me. Especially with such interesting use of commas and capital letters, I do have a brain.

It is the principle I'm questioning. Take a look at where I'm from, the UK. Gun crime is significantly lower here simply because guns are illegal unless for farmers and the military. Of course the problem still exists but to a lesser extent. So to reduce gun crime you as a country have to stop using defence as an excuse.

Understand now?

[exeuroweenie]

The UK always seemed more sensible regarding preventative measures(gun control,rabies,healthcare).The US seems to stall until an issue reaches a crisis point.Then they overreact-often with draconian measures.More guns/fewer gun laws don't seem any more of a crime deterrent than the death penalty.For example Texas has the most executions in the U.S.,yet the murder rate is still high.

[SunStridar]

@exeuroweenie You're very right, my friend.

[exeuroweenie]

@SunStridar Thanks,it takes someone overseas to see the irony.Guess I sorta see it as I've lived all over.But then common sense seems to be an English tradition-one of many nice ones.It's just been diluted here in the,erm, colonies,lol.

[UncleArt89]

Mr Joo rox my sox

[1ucky6uy]

MR JOO IS THE MAN

[1a1a2a3a]

If you take a psychology class it will explain why they didn't respond....

The main reason is they looked out on to the crime scene, and thought others might call the police.

[TheRyanBrooke]

what's so terrifying is that kitty was white...if she had been a black girl, we NEVER would have known who she was

i'm not saying this wasnt a HUGE tragedy, but the greater tragedy is that we ONLY care about kitty genovese when this shit happens DAILY in black & hispanic neighborhoods

also, this happened in a predominately caholic neighborhood...is it a coincidence that this sort of thing DOESNT happen in places absent of superstition? no, it's not

[bigmac364]

@TheRyanBrooke

I don't think it is really fair to misconstrue this into an argument against Catholicism but i do agree with you that these kind of things get WAY more media attention when it's a white person from an afluent community who is killed.

[skylur44]

Why make this into a race issue? It is a humanitarian one, don't be so divisive, be shocked and outraged and make sure if it is ever in your power to do so, call for help for someone in need.

[TheRyanBrooke]

why are you defending the bigoted spirituality that made this possible?

THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN IN A SECULAR SOCIETY

only now can we see how right sinead o'connor was

[skylur44]

Was I? I did not know that, I thought I was just defending the case on a humanitarian aspect, as in, non racial, I did not notice I had gone into theology...

[gordonmessi]

@skylur44 it is kinda racial. its in the racist ages. so you would expect a black man (the murderer) to be scared when a white person screams at him. which is what some of the neighbors did, some where white. even though queens has always been a diverse area. though you are somewhat right.

[skylur44]

@gordonmessi The Genovese killer was so intent on killing nothing short of the police arriving could have stopped him. He is once again eligible for parole in 2011.

[IAmBronzeMagic5]

@skylur44 it is a race one. White people always stand by and watch (if its not them doing the dirty work, I've never seen a white person not watching and acting.

[SSTTEEAALLTTHH]

@IAmBronzeMagic5

Please go rid the world of your gene pool. Preferably, take down some other racist with you in the process. Thank you

On behalf of all sane people, sincerely.

[KeroroGunsouTX]

Another factor is that getting involved with people can mean becoming a victim yourself.

[Zelda199]

@KeroroGunsouTX

Someone could have stayed inside, called the police and not directly get involved...

[eminee24]

people cant just say "it happens" like a normal thing... not 1 not one person helped! Mutha f*&^%^&%$ers!

it's like doh! WTF! Seriously people need so much therapy these days.. To wake the efff up!

[venus41dbs]

@eminee24 it does happen...you don't take any of the factors into consideration.if you and a bunch of people saw a burning building,i guarantee ten bucks you wouldn't call 911 because there was just so many witnesses, that you might think "o hey,someone MUST have called"

[melledoe]

terrible -- but it still happens, happened to a woman in Toronto. It was a bad neighbourhood so people ignored her screams. She died

[andresperez96]

kitty genovese may you rest in peace