Earth (pre Black Sabbath) demo - Thomas James (1969)

[BarrioPunkRock]

whatever this is ,.. i like it

[pictureisup1]

they should have played this down on the New York City Subway

[poolpig]

Until 5:50 reminds me of Zappa Waka/Jawaka

[edgroove7]

Wasn't Bill Ward playing on this too?

[sng1977]

Ozzy does vocals on this track ?



[oliverecords]

The sound in the intro could have been Geezer freestyling a bit but I hardly can believe Sabbath/Earth/whatstheirname could produce such music. Sounds even more like some Lifetime style (with a TRUMPET added) joint to me. I can be wrong of course.

[thereminify]

@hoppinonabronzeleg: Yes, I can see why you'd say that, but um, are you a fan of Budgie at all? ;)

[santanaincubus]

Who the fuck is playing the trumpet lol. Ozzy is playing the trumpet lol

[pictureisup1]

@santanaincubus yea right maybe. 

[geierstunde]

I agree thats not sabbath, but I like it.

[DoomMetalSludge]

Some free jazz fan would be able to identify this, but this recording is not Sabbath. If this had only been a jam in the studio, how comes we can hear two guitars ? Would they bother recording overdubs for a recording that was never to be released ? No, this a finished song, not an early demo. (this was defiantly NOT a outtake. By 1969, Simpson had quit playing for two or three years and it was decided Sabbath would be a Rock band, not a free jazz act.)

[DoomMetalSludge]

@DoomMetalSludge Furthermore, why would Simpson allow a 8 minutes instrumental jam when he thought the solo section of "Warning" was too long? If this really came from the early days, then the band was dirt poor. If they rented a studio, it was to record early singles. If this had been real, Simpson would be funding it, which would be useless because he would be funding studio time for a jam that would never be released or make money.

[undiadeestosmevoyaca]

BLACK SABBATH-1969 demo 1-The rebel 2-When I Came Down 3-Thomas James 4-Early One Morning Blues CRACKLY RECORDS Jhon "Ozzy" Osbourne Tomy Iommi Terry "Geezer" Butler Bill Ward Norman Haines-keyboards on "The Rebel" Jim Simpson-trumpet on "Thomas James"

[marcfedak]

Thanks for posting this demented pre-Sabbath, dallasdoomguitar.

[ruphilin9]

This is been proven fake, sorry.

[dallasdoomguitar]

@ruphilin9 I'd like to know by whom lol. Certainly not those who have taken the time to read Tony Iommi's 2011 autobiography. Sabbath started out playing blues with a saxophone player. Read the book, as it will enlighten you..

[creepychris11]

@dallasdoomguitar Sabbath didn't have a sax player... "earth" did. You are making a very bold claim that this is the pre-sabbath lineup. A bold claim needs evidence to support it. Where is your evidence?

[dallasdoomguitar]

@creepychris11 You can tell it's Iommi from the intro. Compare with the intro from "Electric Funeral" video of the "Never say Die" tour. If it isn't Iommi, who then????

[creepychris11]

@dallasdoomguitar Really? "It must be iommi" is not even close to being evidence. "I don't know, therefore it must be..." is refered to as an argument from ignorance. You basically just admitted to all of us that you have no idea what you are talking about. I question how big a fan you are if you can't tell that not only is this not tony's guitar tone, but you can't even tell that this is a modern recording! Apparently I must also point out that this was proven to be a fake aready.

[dallasdoomguitar]

@creepychris11 My friend, I gave you circumstantial evidence. That's not the only proof I have. Besides the signature riffing, there's Tony Iommi's own testimony from his 2011 book! This is just the kind of stuff Earth was playing before they became Sabbath. Basically dude, u should stop being so anal and frustrated, and just enjoy the song.

[creepychris11]

@dallasdoomguitar "Enjoy the song"? The "song" is just some shitty unstructured jam from some unknown artist and I take offense to your trickery! You seem to be trying to brush off the fact that you are decieving people! Stating that they were playing "this type" of music has nothing to do with the fact that this isn't earth/sabbath! This is clearly not tony's "signature riffing". You are insulting both the band and the fans with this. Do some actual fucking research sometime ok?

[dallasdoomguitar]

@creepychris11 Nah, I think this is genuine.. and a pretty good song at that. Sorry if u don't like. But u have pretty poor company, as judging from the number of likes on this vid. Later, dude.

[creepychris11]

@dallasdoomguitar It doesn't matter what you think, and I don't care if I'm the only one calling you out. We are talking about a clear case of right or wrong here. You are getting hits based on the supposition that this is some obscure earth/sabbath song. It isn't. I'm not even close to being the first one to point it out to you! The fact that you continue to label it as the genuine article means that you are DELIBERATELY decieving people! That makes you a cunt. Later cunt!

[key2kingdom]

@creepychris11 why are people posting obscure stuff and claiming it's the Sabs' work?

There's another one called 'Electric Sleep' . . seen that one?

Their early Earth stuff is sure to be out there somewhere . . but I don't believe this is authentic.

[creepychris11]

@key2kingdom Agreed. Yeah... I've seen most of them by now. There are a whole new batch of charlatans (now that there is a possible new album) claming that their clips are "early" versions of new sabbath work. The bottom line is that some people will do anything for more hits on their page. It's one thing to get "rickrolled" or "tralala'd", but this is a form of deception that I clearly do NOT take kindly to.

[oleomilani]

@dallasdoomguitar this is a trumpet...

[hamlettman]

@ruphilin9 Yup sounds fake to me...

[MostAncientOne]

Sounds like No Exit (Bill Laswell, Sonny Sharrock, Ronald Shannon Jackson, Peter Brötzmann) may have found the inspiration for their cacophanous noise jazz right here.

And then at 6:00 it turns into the Black Sabbath we all know and love.

Siiiiiick

[Riipala]

This is soooo fake..

[jamirosmajicrocks]

Its funny how anyone can say Black Sabbath sounded dumb and too simple,

but if i would let anyone hear this demo of them playing jazz, you cant say a bad word about them anymore.

[Underleaf76]

@jamirosmajicrocks Anyone who says anything bad about Sabbath does not understand good music, they then need a good flogging and to be hung drawn and quartered afterwards.

[laralara9986]

It sounds like Tony Iommi to me~!

[J1O2C3K4E5S]

Were can I get these tapes?

[RsNuts23]

Some of this can't be sabbath

[dmckin7683]

so not sabbath within first 20 pretty obvious



[Grungerocproductions]

this is pure doom/blues metal

[pyramidrec]

where to find this song/album please

[lehomerosk]

O.O <3

[elsariguella]

este no es iommi ni ward.!!!! es una farsa como la de las torres gemelas de nueva york o tan farso como que nos visitan extraterrestres...............­..........una mierda.!!!!

[canousi]

i seriously doubt that this is  pre black sabbath in anyway , there's two guitars sometimes some sax parts and no vocals at all ????

[cowbelltell]

@canousi

being it was a demo i know he could have recorded the other guitar part, and i know tony ionni tried an attempt at saxaphone, he used to drive his other band mates crazy.

[SupernautG]

@cowbelltell In Iommi's biography "Iron Man" he talks about trading a guitar he had modified to play with his injured hand for a saxaphone and regretting it later on. When I read that itmade no sense because I could not understand how that would work in their sound but listening to this recording now I understand.

[JacoThe2nd]

@SupernautG Sorry to burst your bubble but this isn't Sabbath.

[SupernautG]

@JacoThe2nd Everything I wrote is true about Iommi using Sax. If this is not an early example then I would like to hear what that experiment sounded like.

[JacoThe2nd]

@SupernautG Yeah, I know that's true. Just this was put on a compilation CD or something as a joke and since then people have been thinking it's Sabbath. It's believed to be some band called SBB.

[dallasdoomguitar]

@JacoThe2nd No, this is definitely Sabbath. Iommi explains in his new 2011 autobiography that when Sabbath started out, they had a saxophone player and went billed as the "Polka Tulk Blues Band."

[zachisaniceperson]

@SupernautG AND IT ISNT A SAXOPHONE!

[hoppinonabronzeleg]

Reminds me of Cliff Burton playing anaesthesia pulling teeth

[meadowbrook700]

@hoppinonabronzeleg

at 5:47 you hear the main Black Sabbath riff. I gotta say, this is a jazz fusion sound though.

[supercamis99]

te vuela la cabeza

[earthless1990]

heavy intro

[sonictyme1]

Sounds like Miles Davis gone mental.

[key2kingdom]

@sonictyme1 Miles Davies on acid.

[ozzytome]

This ain't Sabbath... Nor Earth...

[typek234]

fake, it's SBB not sabbath

[HumbertoGillanLennon]

@typek234 What is the name of this song?

[janomolnar]

@typek234 name ????

[guitarist5477]

the trumpet/sax watever player is good but happily they canned him

[BLOODFEASTPRODUCTION]

Straight jazz

[celticsarebest]

End sounds like black sabbath title track

[celticsarebest]

First time I herd this,cool,thanks for posting.

[lorax121323]

Amazing

[lorax121323]

Very bluesy

[staggza]

thank fuck they got rid of the trumpet player, its nearly the track 'black Sabbath'

[elsariguella]

fake

[OrpheusIsThe1]

@elsariguella No it isn't fake. I just found out it's from when they were called "Polka Tulk". Cheers for the posting I I never heard this before didn't even know it existed.