the beauty of this piece to me and especially why it worked so well in 2001 is because it has that siren allure, and at the same time has an incredibly frightening and confusing underlying tension. like the monolith they find on the moon directs them to the next monolith, following yet having no clue what they will learn, where they will end up, what any of it means but simply being pulled to the next one. like any technological advancement. just learning and chugging along.
@TheBestCommenterEVER I like your analysis. I always tought of Requiem and Lux Aeterna at the moments when they find the monoliths to actually be the shouts of cheering aliens. The ones who built the monoliths. They are joyful that human beings found their creations, but they are so alien and unfathomable that what is actually shouts of joy appears as a music of madness.
The mark of a real man in Ligeti, even though Kubrick had in effect stolen his music, after the legal wrangling, he still expressed admiration for Kubricks achievement. Now THAT'S maturity.
music like flying through the space, the universe - you feel far over the borders of the earth - you feel the eternity of the mighty universe - music reminds me of a possible Johann Sebastian Bach nowadays. Crysalla
@ChocolateCakeLady Probably because the Catholic Mass is a compositional form explored by many classical composers. It lends itself very easily to the symphonic form, IMHO.
sorry, but i have to admit that i'm kinda scared by this piece. maybe that's part of the beauty that everyone else sees in this piece, cause it's not easy to compose a piece that can give me this many shivers.
This is so beautiful. Thanks for putting it up. Before I'd only heard the parts of it in the Space Odyssey film, and here there's musical context - I can appreciate it as a whole and not as some sort of "sound effect"... It's amazing what you can do with the human voice. Reminds me vaguely of choral pieces "Lux Arumque" (though more traditional) and "Miqmaq Honour Song" (completely different genre but a similar effect with background voices mimicking the sounds of a forest).
@deandusk Fear is a natural reaction to the unknown. What's so unnerving to them (and slightly to myself) is that this piece of music absolutly DRIPS with the unknown. It's just so... otherworldly. One could become easily lost in it.
I think you are right about the tension. First, one has to wipe Kubrick's images away. Ligeti was a Hungarian Jew who lost his mother to the Holocaust. I don't hear Sirens here, but a promise of Eternal Rest, with the evil distortions of the 20th century distorting. How does one resolve that gap; believing in beauty, but experiencing brutality? The man was a classicist in many ways, and poses a challenge, which he leaves to others to answer: how do we regain that lost innocence, and beauty?
@Sunlives Thank you for that correction. I still hear in this, somehow, an intellectual survivor of the holocaust, who wishes, in some way, to reconcile beauty with horror.
If you want a great piece of classical work, that is both dark and original; if you have an open mind for music and an appreciation for culture: youtube search this: Black sabbath black sabbath 1970 paris Legit.
its a great piece of classical work. All the singers are singing there different nodes at the same time and forming node formations chords from there throat and changing chords and node formations. Every thing is planned and perfectly written
I feel no pain anymore. Now I can see the light. It is a dark light, I see white tiles with black edges, I feel no hope but relief, no satisfaction yet imbalanced peace, the cold is wet and I'm alive for the first time in my life.
@Teszchk Indeed. Since that revelation, death only means a state, a passing. That's why I felt fascinated, more than scared, the first time I really heard this (not phisically, but with the mind). Since then, time is a ring, a circle, nothing more.
Ligeti was able to accomplish a feeling of the infinite with these sound-mass pieces. They make me question my experience as a living entity. What is real? Is anything real outside of the human subjective reality? With the final collapse of religion, god, and theism, Ligeti isn't trying to scare us away from the cold infinite darkness that follows, he's trying to tell us this cosmos is our home and we should stand with imaculate wonder and pride. Very similar to Mark Rothko's late period.
Great comment about Rothko...I've heard that people will stare at his pieces for hours or break into tears, etc,,,,this Ligeti sure stimulates the same vibe and comments.
@bettershutmeup Hey, good question about existing after the end of the world. I would answer this way: either the world existed forever, or someone made it. That person is God, who has existed forever and will always exist. He created us and he loves us very much. There is truth outside of human subjective reality; it is our views that change, not the truth. The truth is forever, as is real beauty and goodness, which can only be found in the truth.
This piece makes me want to both scream and be at peace at the same time. It's like there's this strange tension that wants you to hear it, and it WILL be heard. It's not stopping for anything, and yet, it has this calming, peaceful character to it. To me this is similar to the mystique of the mythological creatures, Sirens. They are beautiful, luring creatures, but at any moment they could snap and kill you in an instant. Look up Sirenes by Debussy and you might understand it better.
Hmmm. Congratulations to this composer; someone has finally composed a requiem both sadder than L. Cherubini and more disturbing than A. Dvorak. Danke, Ligeti. And stick to writing for major.
@ComposerJMA Sadly Ligeti died on the June 12, 2006. Many people may not miss him. I am saddened by the fact that I only first learned of him today and many will never hear of him.
@Benanaby Indeed. There is another movie, "Altered States", where William Hurt says that the atoms that form our body are as old as the Universe. Carl Sagan said that we are literally dust from the stars, which is also actual science. He also said we are the Universe trying to know itself. It doesn't matter if we talk about science or mysticism, it's an illusion that we are something separated from the Universe that sorrounds us. But we forget this very easily.
Regardless of ones opinions regarding this piece, or its meaning, it is simple fact that it is extraordinarily powerful. It hit me like a ton of bricks, and pulled some of those very unique chords inside me that haven't been remotely touched upon in a while.
I must think of the more abstract, terrifying sequences of abstract animation sequences like in end of evangelion or rah'xephon , it gives a certain feeling of destruction, alchemy on a very large omnipotent scale. Terrifying, holy, magnificent and definitely at the borders of madness. GREAT !
hey NewMusicXX, keep doing what your doing with the videos and information. I learn more from listening and watching these videos than I do in my Music History class. Thanks. P.S. Scelsi rulez
In most music, there is 1 or 2 solo singers, backed up by the rest of the choir. The choir all sing from the same sheet of music. But in the case of this unusual piece, there is no choir, as such... there are 16 people who each have their own unique sheet of music, each having little in common with the others. You could say that it is a unique harmony created from the lack of a specific harmony.
In Sweden , a highschool music teacher used this music to illustrate the nazi Holocaust. I think it´s a brilliant move, going into the emotions and not "only" the historical facts in books.
How on earth Stanley Kubrick found this music at the time, i don't know. Ligeti was hardly even heard of back then and was impossible to find anywhere in Europe (hence why Kubrick couldn't ask Ligeti for the permission to use his music in 2001 and a court case ensued)
When I was six years old I become aware of time, lineal time, sense of the self, that I was alive and that I would die some day. It was a shock. Since then, I'm an old man that sees directly the moment of his birth. And a boy who can see his death. The first time I heard this I was 15 years old. The same sense of scare assault me, but this time I was fascinated. This is a little portal to the center of the Universe. That's why it's scary. Come on. Make fun of me if you want.
@solnegrolunaroja That's interesting. I think I had a similar experience around the same age. I realized that at some point the world would no longer exist, and pondered whether beauty would be lost. I speculated that no, beauty would not be lost. The fact that, for example, Beethoven composed his 9th symphony would not be taken away. The music -at least the love with which the music was created- would last forever, even in the dark abyss.
@wwwisdom Indeed. Everything already existed. And will be forever. The form is passing, but its resonance it's there, it's a potential, then a form and then a trail, a memory.
@solnegrolunaroja It is scary my friend. Why would anyone make fun of you for being so open, sir? I became aware of time when I was six as well. I remember thinking that the preceding summer had lasted so much longer and I kept staring at the little wrinkles on the joint of my thumbs and for some reason that's when I thought of time and the "possibility" that one day my hands might be wrinkled and gnarled like my grandfather's hands. I appreciate your awareness, its very sobering.
@NathanVanHart Thanks. My own "openness" sometimes has atracted trolls. "People" with little concern about the other. It is very sobering to me to find people that share a similar experience, too few people talk this openly :)
@SardaukarPrime thanks for putting that idea out there. I think your right! lol. Aesthetics is the meaning of life because the universe has no inherent meaning, so we create our own through art.
@AnnoNihilus There isn't any evidence that the universe has any actual meaning other than the meaning that we staple onto it. Every respectable modern philosopher for the last 200 years would agree with me. Existentialists agree with me and so does Nietzsche. I don't need authority to point out that which is fairly obvious. I don't think you understand why I use the word INHERENT. The universe can have meaning to people, but its has no INHERENT meaning.
@TheDavid2222 Nietzsche, yes...the guy who among others claimed that man - if God should exist - is a mere automation. Is a child then something automated because he/she has parents? Nietzsche's ideas are old and on many parts obsolete and simply wrong. Just because we can state things have meanings stapled to them by man, gives us no authority to state what things are inherently. And even if we state something of it, the issue will ultimately remain just a matter of opinion and philosophy.
@AnnoNihilus Man does NOT give the universe any inherent meaning. We can give it our own meaning but I never claimed that it meant anything to the universe. I really don't think you understand what I'm stating.
@TheDavid2222 There's a lack of understanding here alright. Why do you think that our OPINION of this as a human race counts? This is what I've been trying to ask you all along and I don't seem to be getting through. 500 years ago we KNEW that the earth is a pancake. Therefore your or someone else's view on the meaning or meaninglessness of the universe seems pretty irrelevant. Get it?
@AnnoNihilus Our opinion as a human race doesn't count. That's why when we staple a meaning to the universe it is still superficial. With all of the evidence that we as a species have accumulated so far the universe has no inherent meaning. I tend to agree with the evidence that presents itself at the time. I change my mind when new evidence presents itself. When I say no inherent meaning I mean "in and of itself" it has no meaning. Since there is no "higher power" to assign meaning.
@TheDavid2222 Finally we agree on something. If our opinion as a race doesn't count, all the conversation that took place before this doesn't count either. Which argument, in turn, can then be extended to your assertion of the non-existence of any higher power. Thank you.
@TheDavid2222 Dude I just said that we don"t know ANY absolute truth. In practical terms we know a plethora of truths. I am running with practical truth because of just how practical those truths are. Theses truths just prove themselves to be true over, and over and over again. haha
@TheDavid2222 Funny you should ask. As someone who is doing his MA-thesis at the moment, I have actually been thinking about your question for a long time. Why do people do anything? If you are right and there is no inherent meaning to the universe, that extends to people's actions and thoughts too, they are only meaningful to other human beings. We do those things because we find some meaning in them. That's not much, at least for me. For me science is just a collection of (educated) opinions.
@AnnoNihilus We know NO absolute truth, but we know lots of practical truths. In terms of practical truth the universe has no meaning in and of itself so we have to make our own. At this point in human history dealing with absolute truth is a complete waste of time because it is impossible to know any absolute truth. Science deals with practical truth. Based on logic I can say the universe has no meaning in and of itself, I still don't understand why you disagree with me on that.
@TheDavid2222 I disagree because you focus on theory and science, without the ability to exercise metascience or metatheory. Your use of the word 'know' is a joke, because all of what we 'know' is under constant change. All the time.So, be it absolute or practical ( I don't even know on what basis you make that distinction) truth, our knowledge of truths are subjective and temporary at best. I don't mind people having OPINIONS, I just mind people claiming to KNOW the state of the universe etc.
@AnnoNihilus The comparision between God and the parents doesn't work. If God is almighty, he's also omniscient. If he's omniscient, he knows the future, hence there's no freewill: everything needs to be considered an automation. I believe this is what Nietzsche meant.
@keman25 I know that that's what Nietzsche meant. But I am not interested in this yay-nay-conversation, you can BELIEVE what you want, so do I. At least I acknowledge the fact that the proportion of knowledge in these issues is smaller than it appears, thereby making the proportion of faith far greater than appears. And no, just because parents are not omniscient, it doesn't make the similarities between God-man and parent-child-relationships disappear.
Questa composizione fa commuovere ... ti prende dentro e ti porta in un altro mondo, di quiete e tempesta, di pace e inquietudine ... di amabile insicurezza. György è grandioso!!!
Questa composizione fa commuovere ... ti prende dentro e ti porta in un altro mondo, di quiete e tempesta, di pace e inquietudine ... di amabile insicurezza. György è grandioso!!!
Kubrick made an excellent decision to abandon the Alex North 2001 score, but was Kubrick a genius to use this music? I think not. Ligeti was the genius!
@Renatonofuturoscopi It's for 16 voices (SSSSAAAATTTTBBBB), not 60... :-) And it's not a minimalist piece. Check it out on Wikipedia [Lux_Aeterna_(György_Ligeti)]
having watched 2001 myself I can tell you this is a lovely piece of music to lisen to. Lux fit the moon scene in the movie perfect. I didn't how lux and monolith tied in together but lux makes the moonrise scene eerie but beautiful at the sametime.
@SullenMorbius No, even if "Lux aeterna" typically is the "Communio" in the Catholic Funeral Mass (called "Requiem"), Ligeti wrote this piece after his "Requiem".
Note from the vid (3:05-3:17): "Kubrick did not ask permission to use Ligeti's work in his epic '2001: A Space Odyssey' and only agreed to pay a fee after a long legal battle."
That's so disappointing; I'm sure Kubrick wouldn't have been too pleased if someone ripped his movies w/o permission or payment.
I also never knew he was a Republican (especially since he was English).
@smartalek1 Kubrick was a genius like Ligeti but was a penny pincher. He used every penny out of every dollar. That's what I do. It really pays off in the end. It's logical. Period. As for being cheap, he was also like other geniuses, a bully. In conclusion, Kubrick made Ligeti famous, Kubrick made many thousands discover his genius just like he did for Wendy Carlos. I don't think Ligeti minded much after. Neither did Carlos. A 50 year old squabell between 2 masters is hardly relevent.
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So dissonant, yet harmonious with the threads of life.
elliotnicklin 8 hours ago
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elliotnicklin 8 hours ago
i find this horrible haha
smlhgfaz 3 days ago
the beauty of this piece to me and especially why it worked so well in 2001 is because it has that siren allure, and at the same time has an incredibly frightening and confusing underlying tension. like the monolith they find on the moon directs them to the next monolith, following yet having no clue what they will learn, where they will end up, what any of it means but simply being pulled to the next one. like any technological advancement. just learning and chugging along.
TheBestCommenterEVER 6 days ago
@TheBestCommenterEVER I like your analysis. I always tought of Requiem and Lux Aeterna at the moments when they find the monoliths to actually be the shouts of cheering aliens. The ones who built the monoliths. They are joyful that human beings found their creations, but they are so alien and unfathomable that what is actually shouts of joy appears as a music of madness.
sErgEantaEgis12 3 days ago
The mark of a real man in Ligeti, even though Kubrick had in effect stolen his music, after the legal wrangling, he still expressed admiration for Kubricks achievement. Now THAT'S maturity.
MrMoorkey 2 weeks ago
music like flying through the space, the universe - you feel far over the borders of the earth - you feel the eternity of the mighty universe - music reminds me of a possible Johann Sebastian Bach nowadays. Crysalla
Crysalla 3 weeks ago in playlist Weitere Videos von NewMusicXX
This will always remind me of that black rectangle.
starbg92 3 weeks ago
I've had this as a patch for my Nord Modular for years. So, this is where it came from.
riaiaikido1 1 month ago
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10 justin bieber and 10 stockhausen song at the same time
/watch?v=xTiwpr7gcP8
andrewillis21 1 month ago
Wow! and this is only 16 a cappella singers...no instruments! Very beautiful sound-mass composition!
This is Lux Aeterna, the genre is a Roman Catholic Requiem Mass. A Jewish composing for the Catholics? I wonder why...
ChocolateCakeLady 1 month ago
@ChocolateCakeLady Probably because the Catholic Mass is a compositional form explored by many classical composers. It lends itself very easily to the symphonic form, IMHO.
StormsongK 6 days ago
sorry, but i have to admit that i'm kinda scared by this piece. maybe that's part of the beauty that everyone else sees in this piece, cause it's not easy to compose a piece that can give me this many shivers.
aimeeelulu 2 months ago 11
Asusta, Pero esta buenisimo :D
ElDrianOne 2 months ago
to be honest, i feel like i'm in outer space, and feel a bit scared at the same time.....
gsarci2011 2 months ago
Miért nincs magyar hozzászólás Ligeti Györgynél?Fantasztikus eza mű
zsedaj3 2 months ago
Il canto e le ramificazioni.Il grande UNO rosso!
SuorCappuccetto 3 months ago
This is so beautiful. Thanks for putting it up. Before I'd only heard the parts of it in the Space Odyssey film, and here there's musical context - I can appreciate it as a whole and not as some sort of "sound effect"... It's amazing what you can do with the human voice. Reminds me vaguely of choral pieces "Lux Arumque" (though more traditional) and "Miqmaq Honour Song" (completely different genre but a similar effect with background voices mimicking the sounds of a forest).
floratronik 3 months ago
This is one of those songs where all i can do is close my eyes and listen.
It's incredible
ChemicalXOXOBaby 3 months ago 2
shepard tone-esque
ardotadot 4 months ago
ok weird baby picture thing is going to give me nightmares...
jfbim3 4 months ago
more than beautiful !
Thanks a lot
123must 4 months ago
It's alright. But if I was going to make a horror movie I'd just use the honeycombs.
sumbuddyx 4 months ago
fantastically strange, another fantastic HUNGARIAN composer!:D:D
soundtracker94 4 months ago
the recording is incomplete: the end is missing.
oljev 5 months ago
If you like this I recommend Luigi Nono as. Very nard listening yet always interesting.
jamesaellis 5 months ago
Bee hive.
Jinxnolan 5 months ago
1:37 that part and also the picture reminds me to a Trailer from Alien
Amorstopineed 5 months ago
why do all you people feel terror and horror when listening to this?
deandusk 5 months ago
@deandusk I always ask the same question.
gustavoturm 5 months ago
@deandusk Fear is a natural reaction to the unknown. What's so unnerving to them (and slightly to myself) is that this piece of music absolutly DRIPS with the unknown. It's just so... otherworldly. One could become easily lost in it.
WhisperingZephyr 4 months ago 2
if i was ever a serial killer.... this would be my theme song
Karl39X 5 months ago
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rev1080 5 months ago
I think you are right about the tension. First, one has to wipe Kubrick's images away. Ligeti was a Hungarian Jew who lost his mother to the Holocaust. I don't hear Sirens here, but a promise of Eternal Rest, with the evil distortions of the 20th century distorting. How does one resolve that gap; believing in beauty, but experiencing brutality? The man was a classicist in many ways, and poses a challenge, which he leaves to others to answer: how do we regain that lost innocence, and beauty?
halloerde 6 months ago 29
@halloerde We never regain lost innocence. We move on with what we know. Yet we know so little. So there it is. The new innocence. Ditto for beauty.
nobodady1 4 months ago
@halloerde his mother was the only survivor of the Holocaust in his immediate family.
Sunlives 4 months ago
@Sunlives Thank you for that correction. I still hear in this, somehow, an intellectual survivor of the holocaust, who wishes, in some way, to reconcile beauty with horror.
halloerde 4 months ago 3
@halloerde absolutely, much like Paul Celan's poetry.
Sunlives 4 months ago
@gonrolgonrol a choir made up of 16 people singing the same line of music or a choir of 16 people singing only four parts.
Dresdentrumpet 6 months ago
Qué mello.
litelaberinto 6 months ago
If you want a great piece of classical work, that is both dark and original; if you have an open mind for music and an appreciation for culture: youtube search this: Black sabbath black sabbath 1970 paris Legit.
reamraving 6 months ago
its a great piece of classical work. All the singers are singing there different nodes at the same time and forming node formations chords from there throat and changing chords and node formations. Every thing is planned and perfectly written
Truly ligeti's music plays with human psychology
MrAmandeepsodhi 6 months ago
I feel no pain anymore. Now I can see the light. It is a dark light, I see white tiles with black edges, I feel no hope but relief, no satisfaction yet imbalanced peace, the cold is wet and I'm alive for the first time in my life.
SyncChrome 6 months ago
This wasn't creepy at all, bunch of pussies.
JRod8885 6 months ago
i tried listening to this in the dark and after about 30sec i was like "FUCK THIS!"
Cidantis 6 months ago 7
@Cidantis i told ya not to watch them horror movies when you was a child..
deandusk 5 months ago
Listen to this while lying in bed at night, in complete darkness.
0180917 7 months ago
@0180917 How about while walking i the forest in the middle of a dark night? :D
gonrolgonrol 7 months ago
@gonrolgonrol Ooooh, listen in the bathtub in a completely dark bathroom.
bubbamittens 6 months ago
@bubbamittens :D
All to make it as "weird" as possible!
gonrolgonrol 6 months ago
very similar to Giacinto Scelsi
chiledofthekorn 7 months ago
Oh wow, a youtube video that actually has useful and worthwhile annotations!
5 STARS
USERACCOUNT40001 7 months ago
No todo va a ser Mozart.En el s.XX también se han compuesto grandes obras.
Patinir68 7 months ago
Maravillosa música.Gracias por colgarla
Patinir68 7 months ago
@Teszchk Indeed. Since that revelation, death only means a state, a passing. That's why I felt fascinated, more than scared, the first time I really heard this (not phisically, but with the mind). Since then, time is a ring, a circle, nothing more.
solnegrolunaroja 7 months ago
Oh my God! It's full of stars!
askjiir 7 months ago
Please, youtube producers, please add the opportunity to listen this kind of wonderful music as it is heard in a church.
abuealfonso10 7 months ago
Ligeti was able to accomplish a feeling of the infinite with these sound-mass pieces. They make me question my experience as a living entity. What is real? Is anything real outside of the human subjective reality? With the final collapse of religion, god, and theism, Ligeti isn't trying to scare us away from the cold infinite darkness that follows, he's trying to tell us this cosmos is our home and we should stand with imaculate wonder and pride. Very similar to Mark Rothko's late period.
bettershutmeup 8 months ago
@bettershutmeup
Great comment about Rothko...I've heard that people will stare at his pieces for hours or break into tears, etc,,,,this Ligeti sure stimulates the same vibe and comments.
radiokid2 8 months ago
@bettershutmeup Hey, good question about existing after the end of the world. I would answer this way: either the world existed forever, or someone made it. That person is God, who has existed forever and will always exist. He created us and he loves us very much. There is truth outside of human subjective reality; it is our views that change, not the truth. The truth is forever, as is real beauty and goodness, which can only be found in the truth.
wwwisdom 8 months ago
Maravilla de Maravillas!!!
MauComposer10 8 months ago
vorrei sapere chi sono sti 9 imbecilli che hanno messo non mi piace
Hidalgos81 8 months ago
Lux aeterna luceat eis, Domine, cum sanctis tuis in aeternum, quia pius es. Requiem aeternum dona eis, Domine; et lux perpetua luceat eis.
bodybwan2be1 8 months ago in playlist Virtual Concert for 2012 A.D.
7 people don't like this
deandusk 8 months ago
s1ngular1ty 1s com1ng. the notion of self will be naught soon.
Zedzilla 8 months ago
This piece makes me want to both scream and be at peace at the same time. It's like there's this strange tension that wants you to hear it, and it WILL be heard. It's not stopping for anything, and yet, it has this calming, peaceful character to it. To me this is similar to the mystique of the mythological creatures, Sirens. They are beautiful, luring creatures, but at any moment they could snap and kill you in an instant. Look up Sirenes by Debussy and you might understand it better.
ktm64 8 months ago 37
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I find this hard to masturbate to
chambasa2006 9 months ago 84
@chambasa2006 hahahaha best comment ever!
lecheparavaka 8 months ago
@chambasa2006 But not impossible?
matheme 8 months ago
@matheme no, not impossible
chambasa2006 7 months ago
@chambasa2006 That's a good sign
halloerde 6 months ago
tonal
Bagas 9 months ago
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@actar41, he's too new for me ;) check out my channel, it'll show you what I like
ComposerJMA 9 months ago
Very nice!
Marciksongs 9 months ago
Pretty sure that's what abyss sounds like
TheSinful92 9 months ago
Creepy ambience...... peaceful to the point of fear....
Makes ya lose hope, don't it?
Danzilla1996 9 months ago
Hmmm. Congratulations to this composer; someone has finally composed a requiem both sadder than L. Cherubini and more disturbing than A. Dvorak. Danke, Ligeti. And stick to writing for major.
ComposerJMA 10 months ago
@ComposerJMA Sadly Ligeti died on the June 12, 2006. Many people may not miss him. I am saddened by the fact that I only first learned of him today and many will never hear of him.
Actar411 9 months ago 3
....I AM THE UNIVERSE?
Benanaby 10 months ago
@Benanaby Indeed. There is another movie, "Altered States", where William Hurt says that the atoms that form our body are as old as the Universe. Carl Sagan said that we are literally dust from the stars, which is also actual science. He also said we are the Universe trying to know itself. It doesn't matter if we talk about science or mysticism, it's an illusion that we are something separated from the Universe that sorrounds us. But we forget this very easily.
solnegrolunaroja 10 months ago
Stanely Kubrick was right on this one:Everyone who watches this evolves from their previous state!
Manguypersonthing1 10 months ago
Man is part of the universe. Man is self-aware. Therefore the universe is partially self-aware. A part of the universe wrote this.
BledZeppelin 10 months ago 3
Regardless of ones opinions regarding this piece, or its meaning, it is simple fact that it is extraordinarily powerful. It hit me like a ton of bricks, and pulled some of those very unique chords inside me that haven't been remotely touched upon in a while.
Just... powerful.
JarrodES13 10 months ago
I must think of the more abstract, terrifying sequences of abstract animation sequences like in end of evangelion or rah'xephon , it gives a certain feeling of destruction, alchemy on a very large omnipotent scale. Terrifying, holy, magnificent and definitely at the borders of madness. GREAT !
lezvarthok 10 months ago
Very disturbing piece. I can DEFINITELY see this being used in a horror film, or several horror films.
KhagarBalugrak 10 months ago
hey NewMusicXX, keep doing what your doing with the videos and information. I learn more from listening and watching these videos than I do in my Music History class. Thanks. P.S. Scelsi rulez
Pennilesssoul 10 months ago
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
Muzikhead993 10 months ago
@Muzikhead993 lolllllzzzzzzz
jbfootball16 10 months ago
this song gives me shivers!
661Sunshine 11 months ago
What is meant by "sixteen solo voices" (regarding the uploaders commentary of this video)? What would be the opposite of solo voices?
gonrolgonrol 11 months ago
@gonrolgonrol
In most music, there is 1 or 2 solo singers, backed up by the rest of the choir. The choir all sing from the same sheet of music. But in the case of this unusual piece, there is no choir, as such... there are 16 people who each have their own unique sheet of music, each having little in common with the others. You could say that it is a unique harmony created from the lack of a specific harmony.
Raalhaan 10 months ago
@Raalhaan Ah, many thanks for informative answer :)
gonrolgonrol 10 months ago
In Sweden , a highschool music teacher used this music to illustrate the nazi Holocaust. I think it´s a brilliant move, going into the emotions and not "only" the historical facts in books.
alexnordh 11 months ago
@monsagen10 I couldn't agree more.
AnnoNihilus 11 months ago
How on earth Stanley Kubrick found this music at the time, i don't know. Ligeti was hardly even heard of back then and was impossible to find anywhere in Europe (hence why Kubrick couldn't ask Ligeti for the permission to use his music in 2001 and a court case ensued)
manutdbass19 11 months ago
Faith has eyes that see beyond the visible. Sky eyes, that peer from above the stone littered earth. ~ Jubal
Jubalover 11 months ago
The score hints the realms of deep space.
DetroitLove4U 11 months ago
greatly mistical.
fabiowolf69 11 months ago
"The universe can have meaning to people, but its has no INHERENT meaning."
What do we mean when we say that something is inherent?
bozellandbuckley 11 months ago
Not really my cup of tea...
lilililililililiilii 11 months ago
@lilililililililiilii
your name suggest that.
DobarDabar 11 months ago
@DobarDabar yawn
lilililililililiilii 11 months ago
when i die i will here this music
mrvendetor 1 year ago
@mrvendetor when i die i will here this music [2]
blindmansarrow 11 months ago
When I was six years old I become aware of time, lineal time, sense of the self, that I was alive and that I would die some day. It was a shock. Since then, I'm an old man that sees directly the moment of his birth. And a boy who can see his death. The first time I heard this I was 15 years old. The same sense of scare assault me, but this time I was fascinated. This is a little portal to the center of the Universe. That's why it's scary. Come on. Make fun of me if you want.
solnegrolunaroja 1 year ago 96
@solnegrolunaroja
...fascinating comment
anachap72 10 months ago
@anachap72 Sorry to bother you with my thoughts, and thanks for not trolling. :)
solnegrolunaroja 10 months ago
@solnegrolunaroja
...fascinating comment
anachap72 10 months ago
@solnegrolunaroja What a wonderful comment!
fiandrhi 9 months ago
@fiandrhi Thanks. As I said once, sorry for bothering you with my thoughts.
solnegrolunaroja 9 months ago
@solnegrolunaroja That's interesting. I think I had a similar experience around the same age. I realized that at some point the world would no longer exist, and pondered whether beauty would be lost. I speculated that no, beauty would not be lost. The fact that, for example, Beethoven composed his 9th symphony would not be taken away. The music -at least the love with which the music was created- would last forever, even in the dark abyss.
wwwisdom 8 months ago
@wwwisdom Indeed. Everything already existed. And will be forever. The form is passing, but its resonance it's there, it's a potential, then a form and then a trail, a memory.
solnegrolunaroja 8 months ago
Well, what if humanity (and all potential intelligent life) was wiped out from existance? Would this "beauty" still exist? Would exist, exist?
bettershutmeup 8 months ago
@solnegrolunaroja Bellas palabras, sin duda muy ciertas...
JERJES58 7 months ago
@JERJES58 Gracias. Aprecio tu opinión, porque la verdad estaba esperando ser pasto de los trolls. Muchas gracias
solnegrolunaroja 7 months ago
@solnegrolunaroja It is scary my friend. Why would anyone make fun of you for being so open, sir? I became aware of time when I was six as well. I remember thinking that the preceding summer had lasted so much longer and I kept staring at the little wrinkles on the joint of my thumbs and for some reason that's when I thought of time and the "possibility" that one day my hands might be wrinkled and gnarled like my grandfather's hands. I appreciate your awareness, its very sobering.
NathanVanHart 7 months ago
@NathanVanHart Thanks. My own "openness" sometimes has atracted trolls. "People" with little concern about the other. It is very sobering to me to find people that share a similar experience, too few people talk this openly :)
solnegrolunaroja 7 months ago
@solnegrolunaroja
hahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha
"by the way"
why should i laugh???
deivyd111 6 months ago
@deivyd111 Eso depende de lo que haya en tu cerebro en este momento... o de lo que no haya :)
solnegrolunaroja 6 months ago
@solnegrolunaroja
a lo que me refiero es!! porque debería reir de algo que es normal caballero...
todos los seres humanos obtienen diferentes reacciones a su entorno no todo el mundo se adapta o no de la igual forma!!!
tu lo percibes de una forma yo de otra y otros de otra forma...
por tal razón... EL SARCASMO que te obsequié anteriormente fué para eludir ese!!!
make fun of me if u want.... duh!! :/
deivyd111 6 months ago
@deivyd111 Siempre podemos contar con la naturaleza humana
solnegrolunaroja 6 months ago
Wow Ligeti was a genious!
TheDavid2222 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I'm probably be marked as spam, but, honestly, while musically it's perfectly crafted, it's just unlistenable.
RichardKleiner 1 year ago
fuck this tune is scary
Ortheos2006 1 year ago 6
The Ultimate Truth is now revealed.
SardaukarPrime 1 year ago
@SardaukarPrime thanks for putting that idea out there. I think your right! lol. Aesthetics is the meaning of life because the universe has no inherent meaning, so we create our own through art.
TheDavid2222 11 months ago
@TheDavid2222 Has no inherent meaning? and where does your authority to pronounce this come from?
AnnoNihilus 11 months ago
@AnnoNihilus There isn't any evidence that the universe has any actual meaning other than the meaning that we staple onto it. Every respectable modern philosopher for the last 200 years would agree with me. Existentialists agree with me and so does Nietzsche. I don't need authority to point out that which is fairly obvious. I don't think you understand why I use the word INHERENT. The universe can have meaning to people, but its has no INHERENT meaning.
TheDavid2222 11 months ago
@TheDavid2222 Nietzsche, yes...the guy who among others claimed that man - if God should exist - is a mere automation. Is a child then something automated because he/she has parents? Nietzsche's ideas are old and on many parts obsolete and simply wrong. Just because we can state things have meanings stapled to them by man, gives us no authority to state what things are inherently. And even if we state something of it, the issue will ultimately remain just a matter of opinion and philosophy.
AnnoNihilus 11 months ago
@AnnoNihilus Man does NOT give the universe any inherent meaning. We can give it our own meaning but I never claimed that it meant anything to the universe. I really don't think you understand what I'm stating.
TheDavid2222 11 months ago
@TheDavid2222 There's a lack of understanding here alright. Why do you think that our OPINION of this as a human race counts? This is what I've been trying to ask you all along and I don't seem to be getting through. 500 years ago we KNEW that the earth is a pancake. Therefore your or someone else's view on the meaning or meaninglessness of the universe seems pretty irrelevant. Get it?
AnnoNihilus 11 months ago
@AnnoNihilus Our opinion as a human race doesn't count. That's why when we staple a meaning to the universe it is still superficial. With all of the evidence that we as a species have accumulated so far the universe has no inherent meaning. I tend to agree with the evidence that presents itself at the time. I change my mind when new evidence presents itself. When I say no inherent meaning I mean "in and of itself" it has no meaning. Since there is no "higher power" to assign meaning.
TheDavid2222 11 months ago
@TheDavid2222 Finally we agree on something. If our opinion as a race doesn't count, all the conversation that took place before this doesn't count either. Which argument, in turn, can then be extended to your assertion of the non-existence of any higher power. Thank you.
AnnoNihilus 11 months ago
@TheDavid2222 Dude I just said that we don"t know ANY absolute truth. In practical terms we know a plethora of truths. I am running with practical truth because of just how practical those truths are. Theses truths just prove themselves to be true over, and over and over again. haha
TheDavid2222 11 months ago
@AnnoNihilus Then why have science if our opinion doesn"t count? This is kind of a rhetorical question so I can prove a point.
TheDavid2222 11 months ago
@TheDavid2222 Funny you should ask. As someone who is doing his MA-thesis at the moment, I have actually been thinking about your question for a long time. Why do people do anything? If you are right and there is no inherent meaning to the universe, that extends to people's actions and thoughts too, they are only meaningful to other human beings. We do those things because we find some meaning in them. That's not much, at least for me. For me science is just a collection of (educated) opinions.
AnnoNihilus 11 months ago
@AnnoNihilus We know NO absolute truth, but we know lots of practical truths. In terms of practical truth the universe has no meaning in and of itself so we have to make our own. At this point in human history dealing with absolute truth is a complete waste of time because it is impossible to know any absolute truth. Science deals with practical truth. Based on logic I can say the universe has no meaning in and of itself, I still don't understand why you disagree with me on that.
TheDavid2222 11 months ago
@TheDavid2222 I disagree because you focus on theory and science, without the ability to exercise metascience or metatheory. Your use of the word 'know' is a joke, because all of what we 'know' is under constant change. All the time.So, be it absolute or practical ( I don't even know on what basis you make that distinction) truth, our knowledge of truths are subjective and temporary at best. I don't mind people having OPINIONS, I just mind people claiming to KNOW the state of the universe etc.
AnnoNihilus 11 months ago
@AnnoNihilus The comparision between God and the parents doesn't work. If God is almighty, he's also omniscient. If he's omniscient, he knows the future, hence there's no freewill: everything needs to be considered an automation. I believe this is what Nietzsche meant.
keman25 9 months ago
@keman25 I know that that's what Nietzsche meant. But I am not interested in this yay-nay-conversation, you can BELIEVE what you want, so do I. At least I acknowledge the fact that the proportion of knowledge in these issues is smaller than it appears, thereby making the proportion of faith far greater than appears. And no, just because parents are not omniscient, it doesn't make the similarities between God-man and parent-child-relationships disappear.
AnnoNihilus 9 months ago
@TheDavid2222 "because the universe has no inherent meaning"
Sorry, but that's just your opinion.
gariadara 11 months ago
When we listen this music is like all your life was taken from you little by little. Beautifully terrifying.
achefefreitas 1 year ago
Hungary's greatest composer, imo
Bagas 1 year ago
@Bagas nope, Bartok kicks ass xD
thecr8tor 1 year ago
More cosmic than universe! Lost in infinity!
TheTrancemaster90 1 year ago
Excellent
TranscendingMusic 1 year ago
Where can I get the image at 6:26??!
manuelalejandro2501 1 year ago
mi piace l'espressione "amabile insicurezza"
segattacicova 1 year ago
mi piace l'espressione "amabile insicurezza"
segattacicova 1 year ago
"wow" for too many voices .. ^
ugoToshOwmeLuv 1 year ago
Questa composizione fa commuovere ... ti prende dentro e ti porta in un altro mondo, di quiete e tempesta, di pace e inquietudine ... di amabile insicurezza. György è grandioso!!!
MalakhorMusic 1 year ago
Questa composizione fa commuovere ... ti prende dentro e ti porta in un altro mondo, di quiete e tempesta, di pace e inquietudine ... di amabile insicurezza. György è grandioso!!!
MalakhorMusic 1 year ago
amen to that.
UriAg 1 year ago
This is so much chilling!
journalistgirl07 1 year ago
Kubrick made an excellent decision to abandon the Alex North 2001 score, but was Kubrick a genius to use this music? I think not. Ligeti was the genius!
ConsciouslyAnxious 1 year ago
Remember the MAD Magazine parody: "2001 Minutes of Space Idiocy"? Turns out Kubrick ripped off every space movie that had been made before his.
pylgrym 1 year ago
Remember the MAD Magazine parody: "2001 Minutes of Space Idiocy"?
pylgrym 1 year ago
O PHILIP GLASS APRENDEU MUITO COM O LIGETI, ESSA CABERIA EM KOIANISCAT TAMBÉM ALÉM DA LARANJA,,,HE HE
Renatonofuturoscopi 1 year ago
SORRY
Renatonofuturoscopi 1 year ago
Sensacional,,ele consegue a presença de todos instrumentos possíveis atraves das sessenta voz humana neste fantastico minimalismo
Renatonofuturoscopi 1 year ago
@Renatonofuturoscopi It's for 16 voices (SSSSAAAATTTTBBBB), not 60... :-) And it's not a minimalist piece. Check it out on Wikipedia [Lux_Aeterna_(György_Ligeti)]
bearsrider 1 year ago
@bearsrider MEUS OUVIDOS SENTEM MUITAS COISAS NUMA MUSICA....
Renatonofuturoscopi 1 year ago
beyond sublime...
horofhay 1 year ago
having watched 2001 myself I can tell you this is a lovely piece of music to lisen to. Lux fit the moon scene in the movie perfect. I didn't how lux and monolith tied in together but lux makes the moonrise scene eerie but beautiful at the sametime.
DigitalCamera0 1 year ago
is this the same as "requium" or is it a different work?
SullenMorbius 1 year ago
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bearsrider 1 year ago
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@SullenMorbius No, even if "Lux aeterna" typically is the "Communio" in the Catholic Funeral Mass (called "Requiem"), Ligeti wrote this piece after his "Requiem".
Look for "György_Ligeti" on Wikipedia.
bearsrider 1 year ago
Revolutionary. New way for all of us.
Doctorlorenz83 1 year ago
You can feel the Luciferian evil bubbling underneath in this one...
AlienshateU 1 year ago
"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying." - Arthur C. Clarke
StarWoid1 1 year ago 50
talentless as allways with lux shinning.
AI2flesh 1 year ago
sic lucreat lux... :)
AI2flesh 1 year ago
A true and sincere ''classical'' modern masterpiece by a true genius. Thank you Stanley!
jfcc9086 1 year ago
Note from the vid (3:05-3:17): "Kubrick did not ask permission to use Ligeti's work in his epic '2001: A Space Odyssey' and only agreed to pay a fee after a long legal battle."
That's so disappointing; I'm sure Kubrick wouldn't have been too pleased if someone ripped his movies w/o permission or payment.
I also never knew he was a Republican (especially since he was English).
Learn something new every day.
smartalek1 1 year ago
@smartalek1 Kubrick was a genius like Ligeti but was a penny pincher. He used every penny out of every dollar. That's what I do. It really pays off in the end. It's logical. Period. As for being cheap, he was also like other geniuses, a bully. In conclusion, Kubrick made Ligeti famous, Kubrick made many thousands discover his genius just like he did for Wendy Carlos. I don't think Ligeti minded much after. Neither did Carlos. A 50 year old squabell between 2 masters is hardly relevent.
jfcc9086 1 year ago
@jfcc9086 Ligeti shouldn't have been too worked up about it. I'm not sure I'd even be aware of Ligeti's music if it weren't for Kubrick.
crepesoftime 1 year ago
When my death comes I want to be shot to jupiter in a black coffin. I am almost certain I'll come back to live as something else.
spikemansss 1 year ago
Not that Ive never heard dissonance music, but both-dis and con, culture or anticulture,- is to go straight fr