Roger Phillips Fight Focused Concepts + Suarez International

[koolmike79]

Shame on the people who left negatives. Yes, they are entitled to their opinion but this right here are the advanced, real life scenarios. Shoot, move, terminate... Great job on the video!

[229glock]

LOL... that shodan1028 poster has no clue. This is good stuff. Sure, it doesn't look as "cool" as some of the other techniques that we all have to learn, but the principles are sound. GET SOME LEAD ON THE THREAT. Bravo.

[scouttroop291]

he stole it from a cod player lol fale and blackwater nose dives in to the sand lol

i love you pro's put down game players but steal there best moves sad to know your out gun by kids if thay did pick up a gun and fight back you be fucked lol

but i was shooting and gameing long be for it was a network game trollls

[alyz69]

wow awesome dude

[shodan1028]

Looks cool, but I really doubt a target that close would just stand there and let you shoot him.

[sweatnbullets]

@shodan1028 Who says that they will? These skill sets have been tested extensively ove the last five years by hundreds and hundreds of people inside of force on force training. This all works just fine on a dynamically moving adversary. It is the teaching of the body to flow around the consistant index of the visual input of the gun that allows this to excel as well as it does.

[shodan1028]

@sweatnbullets Riiiiiight, I'll pretend I buy that. It's interesting, and it has it's place, but I personaly disagree with the way a bunch of things about this technique at that close of range. Since I don't feel like getting in a pissing match like always seems to happen, I'll leave it at that.

[sweatnbullets]

@shodan1028 How could it be a pissing match? I have trained hundreds and hundreds of people that use this stuff in FOF all of the time and you have never even been taught what I teach. Since you have no clue what you are talking about, there can not be a pissing match. You are welcome to come over the Warriortalk forums and read what the students have to say about what I teach. Until then you are just speaking from a position of not being properly trained.

[daytonascanner]

@sweatnbullets I am a gunfighter and have been a in a few gun fights. This training looks consistent with giving someone the tools to react in a situation. To WIN a gunfight you need to be shooting and moving. Your adversary wont necessarily be standing still for sure. But the more you train at shooting with one hand and moving around while doing it, the better the chance you have at winning. It looks like this training helps give you a focus point to shoot at and this looks better than most.

[daytonascanner]

@sweatnbullets And one last thing, most people that show up for this type of training have only ever had static range training. This adds an element of dynamics to their training. I am sure for a simulation of moving target acquisition they use multiple targets while moving. Go do a search of video footage that captures criminals shooting guns at each other, you will see all these same basic primal maneuvers. Here it is just trained so you are less likely to miss.

[tranceend]

@sweatnbullets Great video, great techniques! At Shodan, you don't know, what you don't know.

[nottinmatterz2day]

@shodan1028 yeah he'd for sure fall down and die

[laillahellahallahaha]

@shodan1028 no shit, maybe Phillips should get some moving targets

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[HYBRIDCOMBATIVES]

@shodan1028 uhhhhh  that is the point of the dynamic movement and instinctive indexing to the target. THe whole point to this type of training is that the target is moving as well.

[lvgman]

Anybody who's studied gunfights and who has done any amount of realistic force on force training knows sites on a handgun are rarely used in typical police shootings. When an evil spirit is six feet away and trying to kill you, you will NOT be looking at your sites.

[BergamoShootingClub]

Got your DVD, great stuff. Regards

[phoenixbodyguard]

Roger, great video. Looking forward to training with you sometime soon.

KarlinPhoenix

[RobertDesrosiers]

Roger, the problem is people have little or no understanding of context and don't seem all that interested in bridging that reality. Situational dynamics dictate the tactics and not the other way around. A civilian with a handgun does not enjoy the same assets as a tier one operator. No body armor, no plates, no kevlar helmet, flashbangs, automatic weapons, teamates with automatic weapons with the ability to deliver overwhellming firepower etc,,, A static stance or slow crab-like walk is

[RobertDesrosiers]

a perfectly acceptable tactic given narowly defined situational parameters. This all goes out the window when all a lone shooter has nothing but his mobility to keep high velocity projectiles from entering his spongy like mass. I have all the respect for guys like Kyle Lamb and others. But they forged their reality on a different battle field than most. It's the only reality they understand. Not their fault that their students think that they exist on the same plane. Keep up the fight!

[HYBRIDCOMBATIVES]

@RobertDesrosiers that still isnt an excuse to validate uncontrolled fire in a bystander rich environment. Whether or not the argument of point-shooting vs. sighted fire is valid, What is not valid is the great number of unskilled point shooters who in an attempt to maintain high mobility shoot barndoor groups. I see that as a serious liability. I am on board with two handed body indexed center mass point shooting at very close range; it reflects a real response,but not off-hand spray and pray.

[HYBRIDCOMBATIVES]

@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES I am not referring to Roger Phillips or Gabe Suarez. These men are at the top of the food chain in this type of training, but many followers of the point shooting method are not... some see it as a fast track to defensive effectiveness minus the marksmanship training. I agree that you will fight like you train, if you train to pick up the sights and move deliberately. That is what you will do IF you train correctly. Defaulting to gross motor is a fact , but it can be altered.

[sweatnbullets]

@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES There is a methodology to all this. This is not something that you just pick up a gun and do. Just like anything, knowledge is key and practice is essential. When it is done right it is a fast track to a very high skill level. But one must be proficient inside of the entire fight continuum. This is just one piece of the puzzle.

[HYBRIDCOMBATIVES]

@sweatnbullets absolutely agree. well said.

[idahocorsair]

@ snb

I have too much to say to your post to reply on youtube... however...

Anyone who resorts to judgment of a person's knowledge and skillset without knowledge of that person and resorts to insults is not to be taken seriously.

[sweatnbullets]

@idahocorsair , take a look at yourself in the mirror before you get so judgemental. Feel free to come over to Warrior Talk Forums and we will discuss it to your hearts content. A bit of a warning though is that you will be taking a position that people have moved past 4-5 years ago. Feel free to come over and expand your horizons, or just get some properly structured force on force training.

[azerious85]

very nice

[idahocorsair]

My problem is, and always has been with point shooting is that guys like ex Delta Kyle Lamb, etc not only say it's a bad idea, they say it's a very bad idea. I understand in the defensive role, however, that it's ok within a certain range and in limited uses. I can only see one time in this vid where one handed shooting is useful, the rest should have been two. And what's with the bowling stance and shooting from the hip riding the recoil up? There are far better ways of shooting at close ranges

[sweatnbullets]

@idahocorsair ,you may want to think for yourself rather than blindly following somebody who's opinion comes from an entirely different context. Military application of a long gun as very little to do with civillian application with a handgun. Your lack of knowledge on combat proven techniques is very obvious. You may want get some force on force training and learn about reality and quit blindly following a chosen guru. The techinique is called "the zipper" and has been succesful in many gunfigh

[Frankdude72]

Song is by Drowning Pool ;-) =p

Other than that, looks like a good condensed abstract of a lot of the stuff I saw in your Point Shooting Progressions DVD.

Hoping to train under you soon!

[shepardh1]

Good stuff ... you ARE the master!

[pinchiecajones]

It is annoying when RIAA and, youtube takes out the sound, on shooting vids when, it just tells me there haters. I rather us RP tech over center axis re-lock

[AbqView]

They don't know what they don't know? I've taken 'point shooting' classes and while good intentioned I prefer the use of sights unless within 3 yards

[sweatnbullets]

I prefer to get to my sights also, that is my default. Reality is that the sights will not always be there for you. Combat and Force on force (FOF) has proven this. Very few "shooters" understand the context of the fight or have participated in properly structured FOF. Adversaries do not stand stil like targets, they attack and they shoot back. If you are not working within the context of the reality of a fight. you are only target shooting. Most people who are atttcked, die within 0-5 feet.

[sweatnbullets]

1,100 views and only one ignorant negative comment. I deleted the one comment and now believe that I made a mistake on that. I should have just stated the facts around this promo clip. Out of all of the rounds shot in this video there were two missed shots. Around the 21 second mark I extended a 5:00 move out to ten yards (past logical distance) and I did miss two shots there. For people to comment in a negative manner about the accuracy/liability, they do not know what they do not know.