This is why Jesus said "the Father is greater than I " Jesus was the Finite Objective of God's Mind to present to us the Messiah . The role of Messiah is defined in the Scripture, so Jesus was equal to God, but lesser in Deeds, according to the Limited sayings about His role as Messiah in the Bible. God presents the Father as both Clean and Unclean, seeing God made ALL. and God is ALL. But when God plays out the role of Messiah , God plays Kosher, to the Letter of the Law, lowering Himself
God is appearing, according to the eye of the beholder. God is able to appear to seven men and each, depending on what they had in their own hearts to give to God, they would see something different. I see God as Infinite ,Sovereign and Transformative. God is able to change us, and for God to know how to change us , God is able to change Himself. The Infinite God can take up the Finite Moment. God lowered Himself from Heaven to Earth to take on the role of Messiah. Jesus Christ is God
Colossians 1:16–17 “For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist."
I wrote these things, because i do not want you to ask me, later, "Why you did not wrote these things?"
Many things that God allows, are for the same reason. The love of God gives chances.
There will be no excuses left, to the perfect judgement of God, at that terrible day, when, from Adam to the last, others will live, the same Light as shame for ever and others will live, the same Light as glory for ever.
If you believe it, listen again, the advice of the Pharisee Gamaliel, who wisely told to his people, this, with few words "Fear because, we, maybe, become, fighters against God's will"
And the modern rabbinical talmudic Judaism, which is builded on the steps of the heresy of the Pharisees, can say this, that is, "We are true and they are false".
This is the issue? What someone can say?
For 2 milleniums the Father is glorified, by His Son's name, in the flesh, Jesus Christ, to the nations.
What? You never heard in the ancient judaism, about the Messiah?
But of course you can say "All the glory goes to God".
The question is "Do u believe it or u want some of this glory?".
Christianity is one religion and Judaism is another religion.. Thus the attempt to explain Judaism in the light of Christianity is like explaining Capitalism by a Communist. Of course Christianity is going to say "We are true and they are false"
“I am the Alpha and the Omega" “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Revelation 1:8 Jesus came to them and spoke to them, saying,“All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth. Go, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I commanded you. Behold, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. Matthew 28:18-20
and he will be to me a Son?” When he again brings in the firstborn into the world he says, “Let all the angels of God worship him.” Of the angels he says,
“Who makes his angels winds,
and his servants a flame of fire.” But of the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever.
The scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your Kingdom. Hebrews 1:5-8
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, those on earth, and those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
That from water and Spirit, someone can be born, it is known.
Dead he was and now he lives(baptism). This is one thing.
But then, man when body and soul.
The soul, among others is immortal(by God's grace).
Then, New Man right after the second presence of Jesus Christ, IN FULL GLORY, when AND bodily immortality.
That Jesus Christ and as perfect New Man, is the way to the Heavens, is not only a spiritual issue that concerns our communion with the God, but it is also and an ontological issue.
Satan did not knew that Jesus Christ is AND the second Hypostasis of God, the Word/Logos, the only non-made Son of God (He seeked, for a, e.g., great prophet, but he thought that he will die like every other man(=>hades(sheol)) and helped to this. But at the end, God's plan).
Jesus Christ took some of Satan's spoils, those souls which believed in His gospel, from Satan's kingdom of death and put them to the heavenly Paradise and now they(souls) are waiting the Kingdom of Heavens, IN FULL GLORY
Catholicism is mental illness. Carmine states:" Reform Jews were NAZIs that killed Orthodox Jews" to latter say " Orthodox Jews were the NAZIs that killed Messianic Jews. Added to the insanity he said Hitler was a Jew and Jews made Hitler kill them. To that he added that the monotheistic Jews "contaminated" the pagan Romans. "Jewish contamination" being a favourite term of fascists.
If a King went to one Tribal location & there always wore a frown, angry looking and dictatorial, the tribesmen would get to know what kind of person that King was. If the King has another Tribe he visits, and there, He is always smiling and kind and soft spoken. Now, what happens is the two tribes describe the person they know the King to be, and the confusion arises when the two Tribes debate the manner of Person ,their King ,is. God can appear various ways as Three Persons, but is One King
Isaiah 53:10 And the Lord wished to crush him, He made him ill; if his soul makes itself restitution, he shall see seed, He shall prolong his days, and God's purpose shall prosper in his hand.
@IamaZionistGoy When you look in the mirror, you see your own image. God is greater than you. God can send His Will as the Image of Himself, without needing to look in the mirror. God has the Infinite Mind, able thus to operate in any finite moment within any object to act in One Accord to His Will. Your false teachings interpret unwisely that the Infinite cannot touch the Finite Moment to appear, that is Illogical, the Finite is in the Collective of the Infinite and Available.
@IamaZionistGoy You have a false persuasion that only works on limited minds, that what is Infinite therefore is unavailable to appear in any finite object for the moment. The Moment is a Subset of Eternity, Each Moment is a slice of time still yet in the Bound Book of Pages of Time. Each Object is in the domain of all , to be Infinite is not to be then limited and unavailable in one time and place, but able to afford any time and place to Command an Appearance . Infinity is not a weakness
@CarmineFragione All that dribble below, is that anywhere in the Tanach? or even in the nt? or its just yours?
The council of Nicaea, in 325 AD ( give or take 10 years since there is 10 years discrepancy of jman's birth) decided to equal jman to his god. So all this time you talked about trinity does not wash. It was popie's dictatorial council of nicaea that evolutionized xtianity and made jman equal to his god. But before that the xtians never considered jman to be god.
Trinity myth: If xtians state trinity exist, father son and the their spook. Then that's 3 different entities and does not equal to 1 or 1 substance.If jman and god is one as xtians claim, then he lied in John 8:17-18, talks of two witnesses father and himself. No trinity there. If xtians still insist that jman and father are one quoting john 10:30 then jman lied about two witnesses in john 8:17-18 and also in john 14:28 where jman's god is greater than himself.
@IamaZionistGoy Two or more Fallacious Claims made by you do not add up to any facts. You could spend the rest of your life saying you will never get older and one day die, You can rant on and on, what ever pleases you, but your plausible denials will not add up to a truth ever. God is Infinite , that means God also has available within His Sovereignty to touch any Finite Object and move it, and indwell it and appear by it, because the Finite is yet within the Infinite Property of One
@IamaZionistGoy A Collective Noun is infinitely equal no matter where the substance is. The Collective Noun of God is a Qualitative Declaration of the Infinite God having Sovereignty over any Finite Object , in any moment, to have and to hold such, at the Will of the Sovereign, and not share Identity with any outside matter. Jesus is in the Father, they are One, What God is thinking, Jesus is thinking, there is no Sin, no Separation between Father and Son, Holy Spirit.
NAZIS like Carmine fragione "know" what Jews are going to do "exactly". NAZIism and Catholicism areone the twin of the other. In fact Jesus is a fascist leadder who is actually a god (like Cesar) who dictaminates "believe in me or burn in hell forever".
Catholicism still believes their leadder is Pope is "Pontifax Maximus" <a term actually bestowed upon the Pope which happens to be the title of Cesar.
@OTRACUENTAPERRA The Ultra Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem are already demanding women move the back of the bus, that non Jews cannot live in their apartments and that freedom of speech on their streets does not exist. This is the beginning of a Neo Nazo era for Jews, who had participated with the NAZI Party in the 1920s and voted for Hitler in 1932 over the Transfer Agreement to build up Israel. The Israeli leaders wore Swastikas then, they were loyal SS Officers who ran Israel in the 30s.
The Conundrum of the modern myth of messiah by the false Jews is that some ordinary mere mortal human man , who would be a military leader in the Middle East, like a Neo Cyrus figure, a Prince of Persia, that he will emerge and be announced by the Orthodox Jews as the Messiah ,as they end the Israeli Democracy and create a Sharia Law Islamic state in Israel to court favor , but the Arabs will grind against the Persians until there is world war three. The Jewish messiah figure is Anti Christ.
Rigveda X : 90:16 goes like this: Thamevam Vidwanamrutha iha bhavathy Nanya pandha ayanaya vidya
Translation - Those who meditate and attain this man believe in heart and chant with their lips get liberated in this world itself and there is no other way of salvation.
Bible Reference : But what does it say? "The word is near you, even in your mouth and in your heart"; that is, the word of faith which we proclaim; - Romans 10:8
@The1kingoftheworld All you have proved is that the xtians have plagiarized stories from other religions. Hindu scripts and the Tanach plus other religious books were already out and if jman stories 'match' with other gods then doesn't that ring your alarm bells?
Bible Reference: John chapter 3:5 Jesus answered and said to him, truly, truly, I say to you, unless a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Reference- Matthew 1:23 "Behold, the virgin shall conceive in her womb, and will bear a son. And they will cann His name Emmanuel," which being interpreted is, God with us.
Let us compare three similarities between Christianity and Hinduism once again:
1. Virgin Birth:
Atharva Veda 13-3-4 Koumaro loko ajanishta' putrah nwarvhethan wai uttaravoth
Translation - A son will be born to a virgin in this world, take ye hold that (son) is what is superior (than everyone) ' born in a cattle shed ' Rig Veda 355 –1
But no one appeared in Hinduism who died with the following major qualifications: Death on Yoopa (Cross) and hands and legs bound causing bloodshed; Crowned with a crown made of thorny vines; Drank Somarasa (Vinegar) during his death; Cloth was divided among the officers.
What a mystery? This is not a coincidence. God had a plan to save the sinners (not only Christians) but all the people of all religions.
For the above Sacrifice as a Savior no gods qualifies in Hinduism. Vishnu, second aspect of god in Tri-Murti (Hindu Trinity) is famous for his 9 avatars (incarnations). His incarnations are as fish, tortoise, boar, Narasimha (man-lion), Vamana (dwarf), Parshurama (Rama with axe), Rama (Sri Rama Chandra who was the king of Avodhya, Krishna Balarama or maybe Buddha.
Maha Brahmanam 4.15: “If you want to be delivered from the sin, which you commit through eyes, mouth, ears and mind, bloodshed is necessary. Without shedding the blood, there is no remission for sin. That must be the blood of the Holy one. God is our creator. He is our King. When we were perishing, He came to save us by offering even his own body on our behalf.”
Ithareya Brahmanam: “After death, His clothes are to be divided among the officers”
Sama Veda, part 2 (Thandiya Maha Brahmanam): “God is the ruler of people. He will offer His body as a sacrifice, for His people; for the remission of their sins.”
Brhadaranyaka Upanishad 3.9.28: “His hands and legs are to be bound to a yoopa (a wooden pole) causing blood shed”
Ithareya Brahmanam 2.6: “None of His bones be broken”
Meaning: The revelation of God who is eternal, Holy, Compassionate and giver of Salvation; who dwells within our heart is manifested. His name is Yeesha (Jesus) Masih (Christ).
Balwaan raja gaurang shweta vastrakam Yeesh putra, Kumari garbha sambhavam, and Satya Varatha Paraayanam
Meaning: Sovereign king in a holy person robed in white Son of God one who is born of a virgin one who is the sustainer of the path of truth).
After creating the sky, waters, and the earth, the supreme spirit of the Lord almighty thought “I created the worlds. Now to provide for and to save these worlds I have to create a savior.” Thinking thus He gave birth to a man from himself. (Ithareya Upanishad 1.1.3)
Comment: Thus a Savior is promised.
In Bharath Khand of Bhavishya Puranas it clearly mentions about the name of Jesus Christ:
Yeesh moorti parapta nitya shuddha shivakari: Yeesha masih itticha mam nama prathishtatham
In Bharath Khand of Bhavishya Puranas it clearly mentions about the name of Jesus Christ' I noticed that you have omitted to mention Krishna in all your comments. This story is about Krishna. If you are saying that it is your deity jman in the 'Gita' then why oh why did you miss out the most important lines. Krishna would steal 'butter' and would LIE when he got caught. If jman and Krishna are the same then jman is a thief too.
God Jesus in Hindu scriptures:The Supreme Leader who is the cause and governor of all creation who protects and saves sinful mankind, He Himself appeared upon the earth wrapped in a body that is Holy and without sin. (Rig Veda 10.125) Comment: A thousand years before the birth of Jesus Christ the Rig Veda predicted so clearly who was supposed to appear as the Supreme Leader, Governor, Savior who was Holy and without sin.
@The1kingoftheworld You sound like a muslim folk. Oh look there's mohammad in the Tanach. Book such and such, Verse such an such when there is no such thing. See if you can replace other gods born on 25th december
The History is, Jesus is the only Messiah figure humanity will have ever seen. His story is an emotional rollercoaster and it was meant to be so, that it would stick in the mind of human history and not fade away. He Rose from the dead, because the time for us is coming that all the dead shall rise. How this is done, is to us a mystery ,but to those who live in the appointed times when the feat is finished, The knowledge of how the dead rise will be understood by those who live in the last days.
@CarmineFragione There have been other gods from other religions who were born from 'virgins' and spooks being their fathers, die on the stakes etc and 'rising' up after few days and voila they are mangods. In their attempt to control the Jews, the romans invented the story of jman. Vespasian supposed to have healed a blind and the lame men and that was added in the nt. Titus chases the Jews on boats and destroys their fleet and then fish out the Jews from the sea. Hence Fishers of men story.
The Calling of God today is Universal ,by Jesus Christ the Morning Star having finished His Work of showing us the Way, and now , we have to learn there are no more Shepherds with Magic Sticks in their hands coming to save us, It is our time before God Almighty to grow up and be all human beings. That is why the Jewish Messiah Myth is antithetical even to the Jews. No one is coming, God has always been here, God has done enough, it is time to stop scapegoating our neighbors and accept history.
@CarmineFragione jman story did not match up. He supposed to be coming back in the lives of then followers. Did he come? Nooo so they invent they invent paul who told tall tales. He admitted he lied all the time to win people for his man god who he saw but not heard or was it heard but not seen- both versions in the acts. Then the jman suppose to have appeared to john and he revealed that he is coming back soon. how soon is soon?
@CarmineFragione history accepted that jman is a mythical story which matches so many other man god stories. Its spooky that all were born on the 25th December.
There is no such possibility of the Jewish Messiah soon to show up, their conundrum is itself a deep deep lie of the Devil. How can a mortal mere human being as a world leader fundamentally change human nature and make a living Wolf lie with a Lamb and not eat it ? It is itself a complex lie to maintain the power of Rabbis because the whole idea of their messiah is impossible for mortal men to do. Jesus came, now we have to do the coming of age, and be Sons of God, by turning our hearts
Two thousand years ago the world was in the acceptable year of the Lord to receive the Messiah as the Levite High Priest of Israel, which was to introduce a New Covenant Age ,where the People were to Receive all the Good things that the Priests had received ,and that all men and women would be equal before God and having equal access to Justice and Mercy before an equity of Law. This age is perilous to seek another Messiah Figure, we are in peril of believing in more Napoleonic Figures.
To place the Judaism of the Ultra Orthodoxy into a Landed Estate and give them Traditional Power over the People is to incite a duplication of the past miseries of the Islamic Sharia Law States where Democracy was forbidden, women had no rights and racism abounded. Judaism is a Tribal Organization that was denied Land, and so never revealed it's inner mystery of Male Domination and archaic cruelties. Islam and Judaism is the same things, the same Tribal Societies that look for Messiahs
@CarmineFragione I thought you said Jewish state is a democracy. Make your mind up . Tribal? how many types of catholics are there in this world? not counting thousands of protestants cults/ tribes. in the pope world who makes the rules the nuns on the run or the popie and his fathers? "and racism abounded" you do wear dark glasses don't you when you go to the catholic churches.
@IamaZionistGoy Israel as a modern state is a democracy, Israel of ancient times was a Theocracy. There is no such thing as Judaism or Israel respecting the Biblical Definition, it is all only a Memorial , and people assuming they are Jews, without any historical connection, Again you are a liar and going straight to hell, for you have no real love for the truth, you are a partisan hack pretending to be Jewish , and you don't know the first thing about being Jewish in God's eyes.
@CarmineFragione 'you are a partisan hack pretending to be Jewish' Are you for real?
What does goy mean? I am a Zionist Goy. How can I pretend to be a Jew?
'Again you are a liar and going straight to hell' what did I say you sound very much like folks from religion of peace. Threaten hell fire, throw insults, call others liars and declare oneself as a winner.
@IamaZionistGoy You are not a Zionist anything, Zionist refers to the restoration of a Theocratic State of Ancient Israel ,which ended in 722 B.C. and was never atoned for and thus does not exist. The Zionist Reform Jews thought to create their state in Kenya Africa under the British Crown. The Zionists under Adolf Hitler, sought to promote the state of Israel in Holy Land, which Hitler respectively did, in the Transfer Agreement in 1932, which fooled the Jews to vote for Adolf, Magic
Accepting Jesus as Messiah and moving forward to Receive the Holy Spirit by the Grace of God, and thus Inoculating the Jews and this whole Judaism to forget and dismiss that God would any more send a special figure as a Messiah ,but rather in this Day and Age, God is ready to pour out the Spirit of Messiah on All Flesh , seeing Jesus was the Morning Star ,the Sign of this Revelation, that says no more looking to any newly come man for Salvation , but now, all the People are Free from the Law.
The more one sees catholic dementia here the more one feels like vomiting.Now the NAZIS were Reform Jews that were tryng to kill Orthodox Jews.But in the same Catholic anti semitic insane rant now NAZIS were really Orthodox Jews trying to kill Messianic Jews. Man Catholicism is dangerous insanity. The human addiction to hate finds a home in Catholicism wich feeds hate and in an insane way states it loves at the same time. Catholicism is evil incarnate. Jesus is really Satan
@OTRACUENTAPERRA 50,000 Jews of the Reform Zionist German sect did wear the Swastika and became Israeli leaders until finally in 1945 General Eisenhower proved to these NAZI Jews in Israel that the Holocaust of the Orthodox Jews of Poland actually happened. Then the Israelis tore off their Swastikas and joined the Allies , and since then the Jews have covered up their horrible error of Hitler led Zionism. That is what we need to end this Jewish belief of another Messiah figure coming.
The Jews have a Mitzvah in the 13th Principle of Judaism under Maimonides, to destroy any Jew who believes Jesus is Messiah. the Catholic Faith today has no such Mitzvah or Fatwah to destroy any Jews, So who is the liar here ??? The Jews throw people out of the Synagogue if they believe Jesus is Messiah. They had no state before in which to make this Mitzvah an inhumane crime against an individual, but with a State, to impose the Mitzvah of destroying Jews for Jesus is equal to NAZISM
@OTRACUENTAPERRA The Pope is only infallible in matters of Faith , and the last time any pope made such a claim as to Faith with Infallibility was in 1953 on the assumption of the Ever Blessed Virgin Mary, that she never died, but was taken up with the angels, like Eve, who also never died, and like Elijah was taken up , that Mary never died, she was taken up by the angels. That was the last time a Pope spoke as an Infallible Faith Statement.
@OTRACUENTAPERRA God and God's Finger is the same God, God is One, but God can express His Glory in many various ways, without losing the wholeness of Himself in that process. God is One Being, but able to appear as many Persons of Himself for a Work of God, and having fulfilled the Works of God, the Persons of God come together as One, making the Trinity a Way of God who is One to be a Unity of Works appearing out of God's own Mind, without compromising God's Sovereignty as One.
@OTRACUENTAPERRA In the age of Pope Gregory the Great, the last of the Latin Fathers before the German Gothic Rule of Kings took over Europe and put aside the Roman Way for centuries until the Renaissance , The Jews and Catholics lived for centuries with no conflicts. So the basic religious differences did not cause the problems, but history under Gothic German Rule in Europe and the Islamic Conquest tore apart the Catholic and Jewish good age of relationships .
Messianic Jews who understand Messiah is the Spirit of God, which appeared to the Jews in various ways,until Christ,the Levite High Priest of Yahweh whose body was the Sacred Vessel to Hold the Shekinah so we could see the Morning Star,but when the Day comes, we all get to wear the Crown of King and God enters all our flesh beings and makes us equal to Jesus Christ as Sons, so that Jesus is the First of the Brethren , not that Jesus became an Idol we bow to,but the Example of what we shall be.
@OTRACUENTAPERRA Jesus is an Appearing of God, The Finger of God , which Foreshadows what we all equally Inherit of God, to be Sons, in the Way of Salvation taught to us by Levite High Priest, Yeshua, Jesus Christ. We are One, the Ultimate end of the Catholic Church is the absolute equity of all People , saved in Christ, bowing to each other as Brethren, not in some eternal Hierarchy of Angels and Demons .
Catholicism is terrible for basic humanity. Since it requires the acceptance of lunatic contradiction from the start.Then any other lunacy can be fabricated like carminefragion stating that NAZIS were Jews that made Hitler kill them.
@OTRACUENTAPERRA We are not waiting for the Jewish Messiah, some mortal world leader who can do superhuman feats. We do not need a man, we have been sent past this episode of Messiah as One Appearing among us as High Priest, The Law is Finished, now God is openly indwelling the People, Christ is a part of us all, we all are the Body of Messiah , We Rise up in God our Savior, who has appeared to us as Jesus, but now coming into us as the Holy Ghost, We see Jesus only in Heaven
@OTRACUENTAPERRA For us , Jesus is God coming out of the Shadow , appearing miraculously as the High Priest of Israel, Yeshua, in His Day. Now Jesus is in the Heaven on the Throne of God and the Coming of Jesus again is Universal , not as a man who walks into Jerusalem as an all conquering hero of the Jews, no, but that all eyes and ears are opened and our perceptional blindness to the Surrounding Yahweh is Healed and all men see God coming on the Clouds of Heaven. You are a Liar.
@OTRACUENTAPERRA It is you who wants to introduce to the world some mere mortal man as the messiah and you want us Christians to believe you can do this, but to us it is mere Sorcery. The Jews have no Authority to Incant the Word of God and make it so, though they climbed up to the stars, from there Yahweh will bring them down. We seek no messiah, no human form, no man made Pharaoh, for us Catholics this whole episode is over, Christ has come, and now God returns fully to us as Universal
@CarmineFragione YOU a bekievr in a magtha died says it is ME that is tryng to introduce the world to a mangod. You are a raving fascist lunatic. Christianity creates such paranoia
In fact Catholicism is waiting for an imaginary man god to come back and in the mean time worship their Pope leader as infallible as only God is.Add to this the fact that the Pope still has the title of nPontifax Maximus which is the title of Cesar. But catholic paranoia project upon monotheistic people that would never accept a man to be infallible the traits of what catholicism is.
@OTRACUENTAPERRA No, we are not waiting for any human figure to come into the world as Messiah , That is your Cult and your own Doomsday scenario. We believe Christ came and gave all the Gift of God to us that henceforth the Body of Christ is the Church the people are all in the assembly the Messiah, we have the Teaching of the Holy Spirit, We are inoculated against Messiah wannabees , We have Christ Emanuel God in us, and we see God in the Resurrection, not in World Politics,
@CarmineFragione NO you are a weird fascist cult that demonizes people. Christianity has the capacity to say AND deny something inthe same sentence which makes it a lunatic cult. Your statement that Cathoot wait for a man god which is the central pilar of Christianity shows Christian insanity. Yes, no, no yes. Just crazy
The Romans had for Five Hundred Years, until they got involved with the Hellenic Jews and Arabs, a system of Government as a Republic with Twelve Tables of the Law, a written code of a modern world for it's own time . The Romans were tutored by the Greeks in Science and Democracy, and of course, Romans learned the arts of War and solidified Italy as a State, All the Roman gods were just copycat stories of the Greek Myths, the Romans had a way of winking the eye at religion, it was amusement
@CarmineFragione Now the Romans did not believe in human deities and the Jews did? Carmine Catholicism makes people raving lunatics disregarding documented history and inventing a parallel delusion ninstead
@OTRACUENTAPERRA You are just a propagandist and there is no historical truth in you. The Jews who felt betrayed by Hitler, after 1932, they left the NAZI party and formed the Black Front, one of those families included the Soros, George Soros family, who in the 1920s as part of the NAZI Progressive Socialist Jews, switched to the Polish Bund of the Communists as the Black Front, and to this day, they have a power agenda of world domination by their messianic visions that are Occult
The Paganus or Pagans merely means the Peasantry of the Land, such as "German" means a "Farmer" in their own ancient language. Germans are Farmers, Pagans were Farmers, so Germans and Pagans were the same type of rural farming communities. It has nothing to do with gods or religion. The Romans in their most ancient cities had no shrines or monuments to any gods. they were Stoics, Naturalists, and grew in the shadows of the Greek Way, and then the Hellenic Way to be History.
@OTRACUENTAPERRA first of all the term "Pagan" from the Latin Paganus is not about religion at all. The early Romans had no gods, they adopted those of Greece and later Middle East, some ten percent of the Romans were Jews, even in the house of Nero, his wife and grandson were Jews. So you have twisted all the evidence of history for a false litigation for which God is going to roast you in hell. You better repent for the Truth is not in you, only Propaganda.
@CarmineFragione You are a fasccist bastard one just have to listen to your medieval "Jews are guilty of everything" NAZI rants. Catholicism IS fascist within itself.
Catholicism is the religion of Hitler and Mussolini. AND yours.
@OTRACUENTAPERRA HItler was a Jew and in the 1920s the Reform Jews under Hess made a Unity of the National Socialists Party and the Zionists Party to call it NAZI. Now the Reform Jews wore the Swastika and went to Israel under the Transfer Agreement in 1932. But the Orthodox Jews which rejected Israel , and rejected Hitler as the Messiah, made Hitler plot to wipe the Orthodox Jews out, but sent 50,000 Loyal Reform Jews as SS officers to Israel . Hitler loved the Zionists, hated the Jews
In 167 B.C. the Maccabees of Judea made the Treaty with Sparta and Rome, for their own desire to attach Yahweh's Name in sending a Gold Shield to the Roman Senate, making Jerusalem under the protection of the Roman Army against the Persian Parthians. It was the Jews that drew the Romans in, the Romans did not force themselves into Jerusalem,but when God saw the Jews made a Treaty by the Name of Yahweh with Roman Senate,the "Die was Cast" in God's eyes, Not our fault, but the fault of the Jews,
The Mystery of Babylon is in play by the growing power of the Ultra Orthodoxy in Israel , They kiss the ring of Ahmedinejad and the Mullahs, pleased to see them get the bomb, which is all a Chess Game to destroy the Political State of Israel as a Western Democracy and build a Temple to the Prince of Persia and bring a cloud, a Shadow of Dooms over the Valley of Vision, and these betrayers think they serve God by destroying the Liberty of the people, doing so in their Collective Divinity.
@CarmineFragione The mystery of pagan Rome with the ingenious abylity to re-invent their pagan religion using Hebrew names and call it Christianity. To that keep adding fantastic stopries. Pity the millions that have died because of this weird stories. Based upon a man dead and gone.
@OTRACUENTAPERRA The Romans had no King and lived with a Republican form of Government which is similar to America today , for FIVE HUNDRED YEARS. And only when the Roman World of Cicero got involved with the Jews and Arabs, that they fell to Emperor Worship, which is a Middle Eastern Babylon Cult, that INFECTED the Roman Way, You speak as if the Romans invented these evils, no, the Jews and Arabs practiced these Mystery Babylon Cults and taught it to the Greco Romans, You are LIARS
When the Ultra Orthodox Jews , by magic and manipulation to destroy the Democratic State of Israel to install a Theocracy pleasing to the Islamic Court, , then these Rabbis shall bring a Shadow of Dooms over the City of Jerusalem, as false gods before God, and then the People shall come under their rule and what went on in NAZI Germany will happen in Israel, in preparation to destroy the Jews so as to sell them as slaves to Egypt, and to Assyria, and then they shall mourn as for an only Son
@CarmineFragione NO Carmine. When the Jews fall in the magic trance by the power of the Holy Christian Spirit they will grow wings and fangs, breath fire and establish the kingdom of Urrukagina in the moutains of Valhalah. HEY! Carmine I think my imaginary story is better than yours.
@OTRACUENTAPERRA The only reason the Orthodoxy was not exposed as vicious and cruel as their Muslim counterparts, is that they were denied the Land in which to exercise their perrogatives . There is no dispute that either strict Judaism or Islam is incompatible with Democracy and Liberty. Both are Male Dominated Tribal Societies that put off Liberty until doomsday , saying when the Messiah comes, etc. But until then they desire to take the place of God as Cruel Masters and Sorcerers.
@CarmineFragione Carmine your religion has made you a raving lunatic. You demonize a whole group of people that bhas done nothing to you. This is evidence that Jesus is realy the devil himself.
@OTRACUENTAPERRA Look, Solomon's Wisdom equals to Cicero's Wisdom as Great Figures in History, and the Roman Way stood for five hundred years as a Republic under the Rule of Law, until the Romans got involved with the Mystery of the Fertile Crescent , the Jews and Arabs polluted the Romans with thoughts of Divine Rulers, it was abhorrent to Romans that any man would be King, So it is the Jews and the Arabs who ruined the Western Civilization, not the other way around, You are the Evil.
@CarmineFragione You are going to have trouble going back to the closet after such a maniacal Hitlerian (and thus false) statement.
This is your lunaccy : YOU believe in a man god ruler but you state that it was those that abhore the idea of men gods (The Jews) that somehow made those that already believed in human deities (the Romans) to believe that way when they are documented to follow the polytheist theology. And you call it pollution of the polytheists Romans?
@OTRACUENTAPERRA According to the Jerusalem Post in Aug of 2010 that Hitlers' living relatives are all Ashkanazi Jews from Berber Morocco, who came in the Islamic Conquest of Spain , killed the Sephardic Jews and infused Judaism with Islam, and that Hitler's family were Conversos from about 1850 and that the name Hitler was contrived, that Hitler was in fact a Jew and involved with Madame Blavatsky's New Age Mysticism from the Middle East, "Hollow Earth and all that Rot" Repent.
I am going to do what Carmine is doing. LOOK. The Hindu Scvriptures say " Krishna". NOW I interject " When I was child I usd to play and meditate". Wow this is evidence that I am Krishna.
Carmine this is exactly how you imagine Jesus into things.
God can accept anyone to be a Jew, if their whole heart and soul is in it, and they are willing to take the Curse as well as the Blessing, But when Jews hold hatred towards Jesus and the Church , they scapegoat themselves by Judgment under the Shadows of God Yahweh' own Hand to blame others and thus prove they are not ready to be called " A People for my Name" When the Jews stop attacking the Messianic Jews, then they shall be Humbled enough for God to Restore Israel, both Jew and Gentile
Lamentations 4:20 " The Lord's Anointed, our very Life Breath, was caught in their traps, We thought that under His SHADOWS we would live among the Nations" This explains that while Jesus is Messiah and the Jews lived among the Nations under the rule of Christendom , that their days were embittered and sufferings. God did not forget the Jews, but this Lesson of the Rod would never again be forgotten, it was not the fault of the Nations, it was the Will of the Messiah to see Israel suffer.
all the nt books were written by people well after the 'events' of TITUS ( all the jman stories match with Titus's adventures against the Jews and in same chronological order) and there were no first person eye witnesses . The books headings informs the readers that the book are according to.....
@IamaZionistGoy If a soul from God is a Gift out of the Passover Holocaust Offering in the Spring time of the Vernal Equinox, then Nine Months of Gestation in the Womb or in the Ark brings us to December 25 th, or there abouts, Nine Months for the pregnant Virgin Israel, Jesus was Conceived on Passover Week and then in a Jubilee Year Passover Week of Eight Days, He died on 6th day, then two Shabbats , and then Sunday morning is Three Days to the Resurrection on First Day after Passover
@CarmineFragione Where did you get all that from? The first four books differ from each other on the points you have raised. According to the nt books, 10 years difference in his birth and a day difference in his death but all say raised on Sunday either when its still dark or at day light etc BTW none of them mentions , Passover Holocaust Offering, Vernal Equinox, or in the Ark, Virgin Israel. Passover Week of Eight Days, More assertions huh. Are they all from greek bible?
Proverbs 36:7 " How priceless is your unfailing love ! Both High and Low among men find Refuge in the SHADOW of your wings " Genesis 19:8 "But do not do anything to these men, for they have come under the SHADOW of my roof " Isaiah 4:5 " Then the Lord will create over all of Mount Zion and over those who assemble there a Cloud of Smoke by day and a glow of flaming fire by night over all the Glory will be a CANOPY, It will be a Shelter and a SHADOW from the heat of the day,and a refuge"
2KIngs 20:9 "Isaiah answered , "This is the Lord's Sign to you that the Lord will do what he has promised: Shall the SHADOW go forward ten steps or shall it go back ten steps ? "It is a simple matter for the shadow to go forward ten steps, said Hezekiah, "Rather have it go back ten steps" Then the Prophet Isaiah called upon the Lord and the Lord made the SHADOW go back ten steps it had gone down on the stairway of Ahaz" The Lord going before the People is a Foreshadowing of the Way.
@IamaZionistGoy When Jesus died on the Cross, the Moon eclipsed the Sun that day and caused God to Overshadow the city of Jerusalem. Jesus was Conceived in the Passover Week ,as was Jeremiah , and both were born in Winter, So the Anointed Messiah would come and go by appointed seasons guided by the Jubilee Calendar of the Temple Priests, Showing these Anointed were prior existing in the Mind of God from Before the World began, From before the Ancient of Days. came forth the Messiah
carminefragion in a nut shell (emphasis on nut) says "These are the details of Catholicism therefore my religion is true and yours is false" . What a basket case.
Christianity is not even remotely related to the Jewish Scriptures except by their use of Jewish names on Roman deities.
In the shorter history of fact, without Christian Support the entire Zionist Theme of Israel would have been defeated by the Arabians, who sought to restore the Caliphate of Arabian Sunni Islam, but that the British and Americans as Christians intervened to justify the state of Israel. Thus if there be any Messiah , it comes by the Name of Jesus Christ by an honest historical appraisal of "WHO DID IT" It was not Magic, it was the Will of the Christian People to support the Jews with Mercy
@CarmineFragione You harp on about that Jews are not of Abraham not of Levite not seen god, that they follow Rambam blah blah blag then why your statement " it was the Will of the Christian People to support the Jews with Mercy". Where is your proof that these Jews, the xtians supported, are of Abraham and of Levite and that they can prove their genealogy.
@IamaZion The Reason the Jews found Supplication in our times goes to credit His Royal Majesty King George V of British Empire who conquered as a King of Kings all the land from Jerusalem to the Kyber Pass ,announcing the gift of the Balfour Declaration to make a haven for Jews( 1917) Then in 1922 The United States Congress enacted a Law, creating Israel as a State for the Jews. Now you can research the truth and see that a Branch of David's Crown among the English gave Israel to the Jews,
@IamaZionistGoy The Christians being set apart from the Observance of the Law, to have and hold the Blessings , Liberated from the Curses, is by an Intermediary, just as Deuteronomy 5 shows it was Moses speaking the Commandments to the people, yet Exodus 20 accredited to God as He who spoke, showing the grounds for the Trinity Nature of the One Being of God, giving Works out to His Persons of His Name and Glory, who then are not "besides God,": but by the Holy Ghost, standing Inside God.
Now if there are any Jews, particularly a Levite with Genealogical Roles of the Lambskins to prove in Court they are direct ancestors to the House of David and more so to Abraham's Kinfolk, not one so called Jew has established the fact. The Fact is, in the Dark Ages, many Kings took one or another religion as the foundation of his own rule over the people. Judaism is happenstance by history making Gentiles behave with an assumed identity, while others may be the actual heirs by blood.
Jews who are Circumcised , are no more proven to be of the House of Abraham, as the Arabs who are also Circumcised. Imitation is not proof, To dress as a Jew, cut your flesh and write your name in blood on a Torah, any Magician can do, and then claim anything they want. But if the Heavens do not open and God does not Covenant with Messiah Anointing, then all we have is False Images, Graven Images, Idolaters who worship themselves in a Collective, without Signs of Emanuel God.
Ecclesiastes 9:11 " I have seen something else under the sun: The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned, but time and chance happen to them all. Moreover, no man knows when his hour will come: As fish caught in a cruel net or birds are taken in a snare, so men are trapped by evil times that fall unexpectedly upon them" This is why Jesus cursed the Fig Tree to show how time and chance happens.
The Light " Aleph" of God's Word, became flesh, "Men" ( made of water ) and the Way this was done was by "Shin" the Transforming Power of the Holy Spirit the Shekinah Glory that is also a Gift coming out of God down from Heaven in the Holocaust offering, entering the world of man a Servant to Israel, bearing the Feminine Gender, to turn the Invisible God into a Visible Priest of Yahweh Adonai , by the way of the Holy Ghost, the Nurturing Fire of God's Spirit, coming down to Anoint
There is no Neuter or Neutral Gender in Hebrew, every Word of God falls into the camp of being Masculine or Feminine. Three Letters of Hebrew Alphabet that defines Creation, Aleph, Men, Shin, The Aleph is Light, Men is Water, Shin is Fire, Light and Water are Materialistic but Fire is Behavioral. Light turns into Water by Condensation and Water turns into Light by Vaporation, Fire is the Rapid Evaporation, or Rapid Oxidation. God is Masculine, but His Active Verb is given as Feminine.
Without American aide from Nixon and Christian America, taking sides with the Jews, in 1974 the Israeli leader Golda Meir said, Israel was sunk, defeated, that the Arabs were going to over run and end the Democratic State of Israel, That was a fact, God would only save the Jews through the Spirit of Jesus Christ from the West, influencing American Christians to side with the Jews against their own Oil Interests of Saudi Arabia. Still the Jews want to say Jesus is not Messiah ???
In 1966 The Commie Jew Moishe Dayan , after the Jews won their war for the whole territory of Israel, the Commie Jews said "can't we just all get along" and they gave back the land to the defeated Palestinians. So the Arabs returned, Then in 1974 Golda Meir told President Nixon, Israel was done for, defeated, so Kissinger advised Nixon and Nixon sent sufficient Aide to save Israel , The Christians of America saved Israel, not the Jews, we did it, we who love Jesus, saved the Jews in 1974
Without the Christians, there is no way the Jews would have been saved from the Holocaust and have Israel as a Haven, Christian America enacted a Congressional Law in 1922 to declare Israel a State. America had it in it's power then to make Israel a State of the United States of America, but the Jews wanted Independence. Yet without the Supplication of the Christian Western World, the Arabs would have over run the Jews long ago, and they would have been exposed as false Rabbis,
xtianity is like someone shooting an arrow at a board and then draw circles around it and making the arrow be at the center of center circle. They pluck a notion that their deity is god in three and then change the Tanach here and tweak there and say SEE jman is god in three. Xtian fooled the pagans and illiterates around the world for long time till more and more people could read and write and found the xtian bible to be holey. The stories of nt are full of holes.
@IamaZionistGoy Jesus said he had the power to rise from the dead, He did not just rise from the dead and then we all drew a story around the incident. You are a liar and going straight to hell. Nothing you say has merit with God, not a word, you are just separating yourself further and further away from God, who is the Truth. Even the Apostles could not believe Jesus rose from the dead, until they saw Him. To see Jesus is to see the Glory of God, the Act of God is yet God.
@CarmineFragione Lets see Lazarus would have been famous for being 'risen' and how many decedents were there? why did paul or peter not talk about him? Can xtians can say that they are from lazarus's seeds? Is there any decedents?
jman 'rising' stories are so vast and varied and even the place were he supposed to have ascended from are two miles apart. Someone is telling porkies.
Genesis 1:1 opens as the Narrator apart from God as the Second Person speaking of God the Creator the First Person, Then in the second verse the Spirit of God was seen moving over the waters, the Third Person Tense. Then in verse three, God is quoted as directly speaking as God, " Let there be light" So in Three Verses, God unravels His Trinity Being, as Creator , as Spirit, as the Narrator Speaker who teaches Torah on behalf of the Creator, So the Jews have rejected Anointed One.
In Genesis 1:12 God gives the Gift of the Tree, but gives it in a Trinity Design. God speaks of the Natural Plant, then the Fruit of the Tree, then the Seed of the Fruit of the Tree. Which is Motion, as God is a Verb, not just a Noun, God moves His Appearances as the Tree, from the plant to the Fruit to the Seed, Plant is the Father, the Fruit is the Holy Spirit Mother, the Seed is the Son ,the offspring of the Eternal, so that the Tree of Life never really dies, it comes again.
?@CarmineFragione 'God moves His Appearances as the Tree, from the plant to the Fruit to the Seed, Plant is the Father, the Fruit is the Holy Spirit Mother'
Have you read what you typed? holy spirit is 'mother'? hail mary mother?
The Creator is a tree now? next you will say xmas tree is the Creator?
@IamaZionistGoy The Rosh Ha Kodesh is given in Hebrew by the Feminine Gender, while the Father and Son Unity is given by a Masculine Gender. Can you deny this ? The Holy Spirit was taken directly out of Sovereign God, as a Supplication , a Gift, The women Eve, was taken out of man , as a Gift a Helper, a Servant to the man , So God knows what God is doing, The Holy Spirit is a Nurturing Spirit , a Person, given a Feminine Gender, The Fruit and it's Seed, the Woman and Her Seed.
@IamaZionistGoy Genesis 2:24 "She will be called Woman for she was taken out of man" Genesis 3:15 "And I will put enmity between you and the Woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel" Jeremiah 31:22" The Lord will create a new thing on earth- a Woman will surround a man" The Holy Spirit is analogous to Virgin Israel, and Mary played out the role of the Suffering Servant giving God the Way to appear as High Priest Jesus, Incarnation
Torah's teaching on Oneness Genesis 1:9 "Let all the Waters under the sky be Gathered into One Place" Genesis 2:24 "For this reason a man will leave his mother and father and be United to his wife and they will become ONE flesh" Genesis 11:6 " The Lord said "If as ONE PEOPLE speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they have begun to do will be impossible for them" THESE are the first THREE TIMES the concept of ONE is introduced into Torah, It is a Collective Noun
@IamaZionistGoy You have skipped the First Three Times the term One was used by God in Torah , so you are defying God to explain Oneness by God's own Mind, and you are then proceeding to follow the false teachings of the Rabbis which deny God the First and the Last, to explain the Patterns by which God revealed Mystery of God's Nature to Moses. One is a Collective Noun, "First" is an Objective Noun. One and First do not mean the same things, You have fallen short of the Glory of God's Wisdom
@IamaZionistGoy Care to answer Exodus 20 where God is speaking the Ten Commandments to the people, and then Deuteronomy 5 where it reveals Moses was the Intermediary who spoke the Ten Commandments to the People, because they were afraid to see and hear ? So, was it Moses speaking or God, or Both, Answer the question, was Moses' mouth then the Sacred Property of Yahweh so that as Moses spoke it was Yahweh God speaking directly to the People, as Messiah , the Anointed One, or not ???
@CarmineFragione What about all the prophets who spoke to the fellow Jews? Was it the Creator speaking or the prophets?
All the Kings were anointed and they were messiahs. Cyrus was Creator's anointed and therefore he was messiah.
' they were afraid to see and hear ' Yes because they seen and heard enough prior some of them received instant punishment for going against the Creator. But your assertions in all your comments exposes the desperation of xtians to prove what cannot be.
@IamaZionistGoy When the Shekinah came down and rested upon the Chosen Prophets, it was God seizing up the flesh of the Chosen and in those times , when the Holy Prophets spoke by the Holy Spirit, it was God taking up residence inside their bodies and moving their mouths and over ruling the lowly nature of the man, elevating for a short time that man to equity to God. The Holy Ghost Indwells the Anointed, and finally Jesus is the Word of God made flesh, in whom is the Father & Holy Spirit
@OTRACUENTAPERRA Judges 9:14 " Finally all the Trees said to the Thornbush, Come and be our King. The Thornbush said to the Trees, "If you really want to anoint me King over you, come and take Refuge in my Shadow; but if not let Fire come out of the Thornbush and Consume the Cedars of Lebanon" Here God is showing the Fact that the Shadow of Yahweh saved Israel from being Consumed, the Fore Shadowing of Messiah was the Law in Israel, A Portion poured out for the Lord, the empty Chair.
@IamaZionistGoy When ever God takes up the man's hand to hold it, it was for a brief time. Sometimes Moses was God, that God took over the body of Moses, and so God was appearing as Yahweh from inside the chosen vessel, Moses, and other times Moses was just a man and sinful. Jesus was born of the Holy Spirit without Fault or Blemish , Jesus never sinned, never fell out of the Being of God, but walked with God Bet to Taw , and so Father and Son was One, a collective Noun Yahweh.
This is why Jesus said "the Father is greater than I " Jesus was the Finite Objective of God's Mind to present to us the Messiah . The role of Messiah is defined in the Scripture, so Jesus was equal to God, but lesser in Deeds, according to the Limited sayings about His role as Messiah in the Bible. God presents the Father as both Clean and Unclean, seeing God made ALL. and God is ALL. But when God plays out the role of Messiah , God plays Kosher, to the Letter of the Law, lowering Himself
CarmineFragione 4 hours ago
God is appearing, according to the eye of the beholder. God is able to appear to seven men and each, depending on what they had in their own hearts to give to God, they would see something different. I see God as Infinite ,Sovereign and Transformative. God is able to change us, and for God to know how to change us , God is able to change Himself. The Infinite God can take up the Finite Moment. God lowered Himself from Heaven to Earth to take on the role of Messiah. Jesus Christ is God
CarmineFragione 18 hours ago
The mercy of Him, to the eternity, His lovingkindness is everlasting.
Amen.
scanmangr 1 day ago
Colossians 1:16–17 “For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist."
jhon58782 1 day ago
I wrote these things, because i do not want you to ask me, later, "Why you did not wrote these things?"
Many things that God allows, are for the same reason. The love of God gives chances.
There will be no excuses left, to the perfect judgement of God, at that terrible day, when, from Adam to the last, others will live, the same Light as shame for ever and others will live, the same Light as glory for ever.
scanmangr 1 day ago
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scanmangr 1 day ago
What you are afraid of?
That the God can not guide a nation, how this nation will be nice at His sight?
Man, God ALONE does wonders. I must right it again?
But He must see and our will, what we really want from the deeps of our hearts.
You are not in darkness, you know what you must confess.
"Lord Jesus Christ".
scanmangr 1 day ago
@scanmangr What confess to a romans created literary character jman.
IamaZionistGoy 3 hours ago
If you believe it, listen again, the advice of the Pharisee Gamaliel, who wisely told to his people, this, with few words "Fear because, we, maybe, become, fighters against God's will"
scanmangr 1 day ago
And the modern rabbinical talmudic Judaism, which is builded on the steps of the heresy of the Pharisees, can say this, that is, "We are true and they are false".
This is the issue? What someone can say?
For 2 milleniums the Father is glorified, by His Son's name, in the flesh, Jesus Christ, to the nations.
What? You never heard in the ancient judaism, about the Messiah?
But of course you can say "All the glory goes to God".
The question is "Do u believe it or u want some of this glory?".
scanmangr 1 day ago
Christianity is one religion and Judaism is another religion.. Thus the attempt to explain Judaism in the light of Christianity is like explaining Capitalism by a Communist. Of course Christianity is going to say "We are true and they are false"
OTRACUENTAPERRA 1 day ago
“I am the Alpha and the Omega" “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Revelation 1:8 Jesus came to them and spoke to them, saying,“All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth. Go, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I commanded you. Behold, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. Matthew 28:18-20
jhon58782 1 day ago
You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity;
therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows.”
And,
“You, Lord, in the beginning, laid the foundation of the earth.
The heavens are the works of your hands. They will perish, but you continue.
They all will grow old like a garment does. You will roll them up like a mantle,
and they will be changed;
but you are the same.
Your years will not fail.”Hebrews 1 : 9-12
jhon58782 1 day ago
“You are my Son.
Today have I become your father?”
and again,
“I will be to him a Father,
and he will be to me a Son?” When he again brings in the firstborn into the world he says, “Let all the angels of God worship him.” Of the angels he says,
“Who makes his angels winds,
and his servants a flame of fire.” But of the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever.
The scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your Kingdom. Hebrews 1:5-8
jhon58782 1 day ago
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, those on earth, and those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Philippians 2:10-11
jhon58782 1 day ago
That from water and Spirit, someone can be born, it is known.
Dead he was and now he lives(baptism). This is one thing.
But then, man when body and soul.
The soul, among others is immortal(by God's grace).
Then, New Man right after the second presence of Jesus Christ, IN FULL GLORY, when AND bodily immortality.
That Jesus Christ and as perfect New Man, is the way to the Heavens, is not only a spiritual issue that concerns our communion with the God, but it is also and an ontological issue.
scanmangr 1 day ago 8
Satan did not knew that Jesus Christ is AND the second Hypostasis of God, the Word/Logos, the only non-made Son of God (He seeked, for a, e.g., great prophet, but he thought that he will die like every other man(=>hades(sheol)) and helped to this. But at the end, God's plan).
Jesus Christ took some of Satan's spoils, those souls which believed in His gospel, from Satan's kingdom of death and put them to the heavenly Paradise and now they(souls) are waiting the Kingdom of Heavens, IN FULL GLORY
scanmangr 2 days ago 6
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scanmangr 2 days ago
It is known, to those who believe in God, the same God that Abraham believes, that Satan is ancient and he guides his "/victims/", through the time.
This old Devil, knows the human history, even from the first hand. Think about it.
He knew also, the promise to Eve, which God gave, that Jesus(before 2000y, he learnt His name) will crash his head(death).
He knows many tricks, like how to prepare false situations, so the men after, and especially today, they who live out of Christ, are confused.
scanmangr 2 days ago 3
Catholicism is mental illness. Carmine states:" Reform Jews were NAZIs that killed Orthodox Jews" to latter say " Orthodox Jews were the NAZIs that killed Messianic Jews. Added to the insanity he said Hitler was a Jew and Jews made Hitler kill them. To that he added that the monotheistic Jews "contaminated" the pagan Romans. "Jewish contamination" being a favourite term of fascists.
Carmine is evidence that Catholicism is fascism.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
If a King went to one Tribal location & there always wore a frown, angry looking and dictatorial, the tribesmen would get to know what kind of person that King was. If the King has another Tribe he visits, and there, He is always smiling and kind and soft spoken. Now, what happens is the two tribes describe the person they know the King to be, and the confusion arises when the two Tribes debate the manner of Person ,their King ,is. God can appear various ways as Three Persons, but is One King
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
Did jman have long days? Did he have kids?
Isaiah 53:10 And the Lord wished to crush him, He made him ill; if his soul makes itself restitution, he shall see seed, He shall prolong his days, and God's purpose shall prosper in his hand.
IamaZionistGoy 3 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy When you look in the mirror, you see your own image. God is greater than you. God can send His Will as the Image of Himself, without needing to look in the mirror. God has the Infinite Mind, able thus to operate in any finite moment within any object to act in One Accord to His Will. Your false teachings interpret unwisely that the Infinite cannot touch the Finite Moment to appear, that is Illogical, the Finite is in the Collective of the Infinite and Available.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy You have a false persuasion that only works on limited minds, that what is Infinite therefore is unavailable to appear in any finite object for the moment. The Moment is a Subset of Eternity, Each Moment is a slice of time still yet in the Bound Book of Pages of Time. Each Object is in the domain of all , to be Infinite is not to be then limited and unavailable in one time and place, but able to afford any time and place to Command an Appearance . Infinity is not a weakness
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione All that dribble below, is that anywhere in the Tanach? or even in the nt? or its just yours?
The council of Nicaea, in 325 AD ( give or take 10 years since there is 10 years discrepancy of jman's birth) decided to equal jman to his god. So all this time you talked about trinity does not wash. It was popie's dictatorial council of nicaea that evolutionized xtianity and made jman equal to his god. But before that the xtians never considered jman to be god.
IamaZionistGoy 2 days ago
Trinity myth: If xtians state trinity exist, father son and the their spook. Then that's 3 different entities and does not equal to 1 or 1 substance.If jman and god is one as xtians claim, then he lied in John 8:17-18, talks of two witnesses father and himself. No trinity there. If xtians still insist that jman and father are one quoting john 10:30 then jman lied about two witnesses in john 8:17-18 and also in john 14:28 where jman's god is greater than himself.
IamaZionistGoy 3 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy Two or more Fallacious Claims made by you do not add up to any facts. You could spend the rest of your life saying you will never get older and one day die, You can rant on and on, what ever pleases you, but your plausible denials will not add up to a truth ever. God is Infinite , that means God also has available within His Sovereignty to touch any Finite Object and move it, and indwell it and appear by it, because the Finite is yet within the Infinite Property of One
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione Its in you nt.
Does I Corinthians 11:3 say that jman and his god are co equal?
IamaZionistGoy 3 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy A Collective Noun is infinitely equal no matter where the substance is. The Collective Noun of God is a Qualitative Declaration of the Infinite God having Sovereignty over any Finite Object , in any moment, to have and to hold such, at the Will of the Sovereign, and not share Identity with any outside matter. Jesus is in the Father, they are One, What God is thinking, Jesus is thinking, there is no Sin, no Separation between Father and Son, Holy Spirit.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
NAZIS like Carmine fragione "know" what Jews are going to do "exactly". NAZIism and Catholicism areone the twin of the other. In fact Jesus is a fascist leadder who is actually a god (like Cesar) who dictaminates "believe in me or burn in hell forever".
Catholicism still believes their leadder is Pope is "Pontifax Maximus" <a term actually bestowed upon the Pope which happens to be the title of Cesar.
But like Cesar Jesus died and never returned.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA The Ultra Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem are already demanding women move the back of the bus, that non Jews cannot live in their apartments and that freedom of speech on their streets does not exist. This is the beginning of a Neo Nazo era for Jews, who had participated with the NAZI Party in the 1920s and voted for Hitler in 1932 over the Transfer Agreement to build up Israel. The Israeli leaders wore Swastikas then, they were loyal SS Officers who ran Israel in the 30s.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
The Conundrum of the modern myth of messiah by the false Jews is that some ordinary mere mortal human man , who would be a military leader in the Middle East, like a Neo Cyrus figure, a Prince of Persia, that he will emerge and be announced by the Orthodox Jews as the Messiah ,as they end the Israeli Democracy and create a Sharia Law Islamic state in Israel to court favor , but the Arabs will grind against the Persians until there is world war three. The Jewish messiah figure is Anti Christ.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione If the jman never existed except as literary character created by the romans then how can there be an anti jman?
IamaZionistGoy 3 days ago
is Santa real?
milkyroadtube 3 days ago
Rigveda X : 90:16 goes like this: Thamevam Vidwanamrutha iha bhavathy Nanya pandha ayanaya vidya
Translation - Those who meditate and attain this man believe in heart and chant with their lips get liberated in this world itself and there is no other way of salvation.
Bible Reference : But what does it say? "The word is near you, even in your mouth and in your heart"; that is, the word of faith which we proclaim; - Romans 10:8
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
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@The1kingoftheworld All you have proved is that the xtians have plagiarized stories from other religions. Hindu scripts and the Tanach plus other religious books were already out and if jman stories 'match' with other gods then doesn't that ring your alarm bells?
IamaZionistGoy 2 days ago
None of His bones must be broken (Yajurveda XXXI)
Before death he should be given a drink of somarasa (Ithareya Brahmanam)
Bible Reference: Matthew 27:29 And plaiting a crown of thorns, they put it on His head, and a reed in His right hand
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
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@The1kingoftheworld ... and what drinks was jman offered ? the four books have different accounts.
IamaZionistGoy 2 days ago
Bible Reference: John chapter 3:5 Jesus answered and said to him, truly, truly, I say to you, unless a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
3. Sacrifice
(Rigveda X:90:7,15; Bruhadaranyakopanishad III:9:28; Ithareya Brahmanam 2:6):
Translation: The sacrificial victim is to be crowned with a crown made of thorny vines His hands and legs are to be bound to a yoopa causing bloodshed
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
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@The1kingoftheworld ....and since Indian books were written over thousand years before jman it was easy to recite the words.
IamaZionistGoy 2 days ago
Reference- Matthew 1:23 "Behold, the virgin shall conceive in her womb, and will bear a son. And they will cann His name Emmanuel," which being interpreted is, God with us.
2. Two Births:
Asmaakam thu visishtaye Thaanni bodha dwijothama Bhagavat Gita 1:7
Translation - A perfect Brahmin (who has found God ) is twice born. nobody can become a brahmin without being born a second time.
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
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@The1kingoftheworld and of course matthew was written by matthew who could read Hebrew and translated it for nt. When was matthew writte?
IamaZionistGoy 2 days ago
Reference Luke 2:11 For to you is born today, in the city of David, a Saviour, who is Christ the Lord
Bhavishya Mahapurana Book 3. Chapter in 34th verse
Ko bhavaanithi tham praaha Sobhovaachamudaanwitha:
Eshaputhram cha maam idhi Kumaareegarbha samahavam Aham easa Maseeha nama
Translation - (King Saka asked) "May I know who you are?
"That man replied happily "I am the son of God born to a virgin. My name is Easa messiah"
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
@The1kingoftheworld When was luke written and by whom?
IamaZionistGoy 2 days ago
Let us compare three similarities between Christianity and Hinduism once again:
1. Virgin Birth:
Atharva Veda 13-3-4 Koumaro loko ajanishta' putrah nwarvhethan wai uttaravoth
Translation - A son will be born to a virgin in this world, take ye hold that (son) is what is superior (than everyone) ' born in a cattle shed ' Rig Veda 355 –1
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
But no one appeared in Hinduism who died with the following major qualifications: Death on Yoopa (Cross) and hands and legs bound causing bloodshed; Crowned with a crown made of thorny vines; Drank Somarasa (Vinegar) during his death; Cloth was divided among the officers.
What a mystery? This is not a coincidence. God had a plan to save the sinners (not only Christians) but all the people of all religions.
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
@The1kingoftheworld or was it copy cat stories like what The smiths Family got in their house we must have bigger and better,
IamaZionistGoy 2 days ago
For the above Sacrifice as a Savior no gods qualifies in Hinduism. Vishnu, second aspect of god in Tri-Murti (Hindu Trinity) is famous for his 9 avatars (incarnations). His incarnations are as fish, tortoise, boar, Narasimha (man-lion), Vamana (dwarf), Parshurama (Rama with axe), Rama (Sri Rama Chandra who was the king of Avodhya, Krishna Balarama or maybe Buddha.
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
@The1kingoftheworld If your jman is second aspect like vishnu then jman must be deformed too with four arms.
IamaZionistGoy 2 days ago
Maha Brahmanam 4.15: “If you want to be delivered from the sin, which you commit through eyes, mouth, ears and mind, bloodshed is necessary. Without shedding the blood, there is no remission for sin. That must be the blood of the Holy one. God is our creator. He is our King. When we were perishing, He came to save us by offering even his own body on our behalf.”
Ithareya Brahmanam: “After death, His clothes are to be divided among the officers”
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
Sama Veda, part 2 (Thandiya Maha Brahmanam): “God is the ruler of people. He will offer His body as a sacrifice, for His people; for the remission of their sins.”
Brhadaranyaka Upanishad 3.9.28: “His hands and legs are to be bound to a yoopa (a wooden pole) causing blood shed”
Ithareya Brahmanam 2.6: “None of His bones be broken”
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
@The1kingoftheworld 'yoopa (a wooden pole)' A POLE? oooooops no cross
IamaZionistGoy 2 days ago
Yagnovaa Avathi Thasya Chaya Kriyathe.
Meaning: Sacrifices being practiced are the shadow of the Supreme Sacrifice.
Death and Suffering about Jesus Christ:
Rig Veda 10.90.7, 15: “The sacrificial victim is to be crowned with a crown made of thorny vines”
Yajur Veda 31: “Before death, He should be given a drink of Somarasa”(an intoxicating herbal juice)
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
Meaning: Blood sprinkling is necessary for cleansing of sins. This blood is the result of God Himself offering His own blood through a sacrifice.
Prajapathiryagnaha.
Meaning: God Himself was the sacrifice.
Nakarmana Manushtanairna Danasthapasavya Kaivalyam Labhathe Marthyah.
Meaning: Cleansing of sins is not possible by baths, pilgrimages, giving dana or by following dharma.
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
There are many Terms used in the Vedas so clearly about the Savior:
Prajapathirdevebhyam Athmanam Yagnam Kruthva Prayaschittaha.
Meaning: God offered Himself as the sacrifice for atonement of sins of the world.
Yagnovy Bhuvanasya Nabhi.
Meaning: Sacrifice is the most important backbone of the world.
Sarvapapa Pariharo Rakthaprokshanamavasyam. Thadraktham Paramathmeva Punyadana Baliyagam.
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
Meaning: The revelation of God who is eternal, Holy, Compassionate and giver of Salvation; who dwells within our heart is manifested. His name is Yeesha (Jesus) Masih (Christ).
Balwaan raja gaurang shweta vastrakam Yeesh putra, Kumari garbha sambhavam, and Satya Varatha Paraayanam
Meaning: Sovereign king in a holy person robed in white Son of God one who is born of a virgin one who is the sustainer of the path of truth).
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
After creating the sky, waters, and the earth, the supreme spirit of the Lord almighty thought “I created the worlds. Now to provide for and to save these worlds I have to create a savior.” Thinking thus He gave birth to a man from himself. (Ithareya Upanishad 1.1.3)
Comment: Thus a Savior is promised.
In Bharath Khand of Bhavishya Puranas it clearly mentions about the name of Jesus Christ:
Yeesh moorti parapta nitya shuddha shivakari: Yeesha masih itticha mam nama prathishtatham
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
@The1kingoftheworld 'Comment: Thus a Savior is promised.
In Bharath Khand of Bhavishya Puranas it clearly mentions about the name of Jesus Christ' I noticed that you have omitted to mention Krishna in all your comments. This story is about Krishna. If you are saying that it is your deity jman in the 'Gita' then why oh why did you miss out the most important lines. Krishna would steal 'butter' and would LIE when he got caught. If jman and Krishna are the same then jman is a thief too.
IamaZionistGoy 2 days ago
God Jesus in Hindu scriptures:The Supreme Leader who is the cause and governor of all creation who protects and saves sinful mankind, He Himself appeared upon the earth wrapped in a body that is Holy and without sin. (Rig Veda 10.125) Comment: A thousand years before the birth of Jesus Christ the Rig Veda predicted so clearly who was supposed to appear as the Supreme Leader, Governor, Savior who was Holy and without sin.
The1kingoftheworld 3 days ago
@The1kingoftheworld You sound like a muslim folk. Oh look there's mohammad in the Tanach. Book such and such, Verse such an such when there is no such thing. See if you can replace other gods born on 25th december
Horus (c. 3000 BCE),Osiris (c. 3000 BCE),Attis of Phrygia (c.1400 BCE), Zoroaster/Zarathustra (c. 1000 BCE), Mithra of Persia (c. 600 BCE). Heracles (c. 800 BCE) Dionysus (c. 186 BCE), Tammuz (c. 400 BCE), Adonis (c. 200 BCE), Hermes
Bacchus, Prometheus,
IamaZionistGoy 2 days ago
The History is, Jesus is the only Messiah figure humanity will have ever seen. His story is an emotional rollercoaster and it was meant to be so, that it would stick in the mind of human history and not fade away. He Rose from the dead, because the time for us is coming that all the dead shall rise. How this is done, is to us a mystery ,but to those who live in the appointed times when the feat is finished, The knowledge of how the dead rise will be understood by those who live in the last days.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione There have been other gods from other religions who were born from 'virgins' and spooks being their fathers, die on the stakes etc and 'rising' up after few days and voila they are mangods. In their attempt to control the Jews, the romans invented the story of jman. Vespasian supposed to have healed a blind and the lame men and that was added in the nt. Titus chases the Jews on boats and destroys their fleet and then fish out the Jews from the sea. Hence Fishers of men story.
IamaZionistGoy 3 days ago
The Calling of God today is Universal ,by Jesus Christ the Morning Star having finished His Work of showing us the Way, and now , we have to learn there are no more Shepherds with Magic Sticks in their hands coming to save us, It is our time before God Almighty to grow up and be all human beings. That is why the Jewish Messiah Myth is antithetical even to the Jews. No one is coming, God has always been here, God has done enough, it is time to stop scapegoating our neighbors and accept history.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione jman story did not match up. He supposed to be coming back in the lives of then followers. Did he come? Nooo so they invent they invent paul who told tall tales. He admitted he lied all the time to win people for his man god who he saw but not heard or was it heard but not seen- both versions in the acts. Then the jman suppose to have appeared to john and he revealed that he is coming back soon. how soon is soon?
IamaZionistGoy 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione history accepted that jman is a mythical story which matches so many other man god stories. Its spooky that all were born on the 25th December.
IamaZionistGoy 3 days ago
There is no such possibility of the Jewish Messiah soon to show up, their conundrum is itself a deep deep lie of the Devil. How can a mortal mere human being as a world leader fundamentally change human nature and make a living Wolf lie with a Lamb and not eat it ? It is itself a complex lie to maintain the power of Rabbis because the whole idea of their messiah is impossible for mortal men to do. Jesus came, now we have to do the coming of age, and be Sons of God, by turning our hearts
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
Two thousand years ago the world was in the acceptable year of the Lord to receive the Messiah as the Levite High Priest of Israel, which was to introduce a New Covenant Age ,where the People were to Receive all the Good things that the Priests had received ,and that all men and women would be equal before God and having equal access to Justice and Mercy before an equity of Law. This age is perilous to seek another Messiah Figure, we are in peril of believing in more Napoleonic Figures.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
To place the Judaism of the Ultra Orthodoxy into a Landed Estate and give them Traditional Power over the People is to incite a duplication of the past miseries of the Islamic Sharia Law States where Democracy was forbidden, women had no rights and racism abounded. Judaism is a Tribal Organization that was denied Land, and so never revealed it's inner mystery of Male Domination and archaic cruelties. Islam and Judaism is the same things, the same Tribal Societies that look for Messiahs
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione I thought you said Jewish state is a democracy. Make your mind up . Tribal? how many types of catholics are there in this world? not counting thousands of protestants cults/ tribes. in the pope world who makes the rules the nuns on the run or the popie and his fathers? "and racism abounded" you do wear dark glasses don't you when you go to the catholic churches.
IamaZionistGoy 3 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy Israel as a modern state is a democracy, Israel of ancient times was a Theocracy. There is no such thing as Judaism or Israel respecting the Biblical Definition, it is all only a Memorial , and people assuming they are Jews, without any historical connection, Again you are a liar and going straight to hell, for you have no real love for the truth, you are a partisan hack pretending to be Jewish , and you don't know the first thing about being Jewish in God's eyes.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione 'you are a partisan hack pretending to be Jewish' Are you for real?
What does goy mean? I am a Zionist Goy. How can I pretend to be a Jew?
'Again you are a liar and going straight to hell' what did I say you sound very much like folks from religion of peace. Threaten hell fire, throw insults, call others liars and declare oneself as a winner.
IamaZionistGoy 3 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy You are not a Zionist anything, Zionist refers to the restoration of a Theocratic State of Ancient Israel ,which ended in 722 B.C. and was never atoned for and thus does not exist. The Zionist Reform Jews thought to create their state in Kenya Africa under the British Crown. The Zionists under Adolf Hitler, sought to promote the state of Israel in Holy Land, which Hitler respectively did, in the Transfer Agreement in 1932, which fooled the Jews to vote for Adolf, Magic
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
Accepting Jesus as Messiah and moving forward to Receive the Holy Spirit by the Grace of God, and thus Inoculating the Jews and this whole Judaism to forget and dismiss that God would any more send a special figure as a Messiah ,but rather in this Day and Age, God is ready to pour out the Spirit of Messiah on All Flesh , seeing Jesus was the Morning Star ,the Sign of this Revelation, that says no more looking to any newly come man for Salvation , but now, all the People are Free from the Law.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
The more one sees catholic dementia here the more one feels like vomiting.Now the NAZIS were Reform Jews that were tryng to kill Orthodox Jews.But in the same Catholic anti semitic insane rant now NAZIS were really Orthodox Jews trying to kill Messianic Jews. Man Catholicism is dangerous insanity. The human addiction to hate finds a home in Catholicism wich feeds hate and in an insane way states it loves at the same time. Catholicism is evil incarnate. Jesus is really Satan
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA 50,000 Jews of the Reform Zionist German sect did wear the Swastika and became Israeli leaders until finally in 1945 General Eisenhower proved to these NAZI Jews in Israel that the Holocaust of the Orthodox Jews of Poland actually happened. Then the Israelis tore off their Swastikas and joined the Allies , and since then the Jews have covered up their horrible error of Hitler led Zionism. That is what we need to end this Jewish belief of another Messiah figure coming.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
The Jews have a Mitzvah in the 13th Principle of Judaism under Maimonides, to destroy any Jew who believes Jesus is Messiah. the Catholic Faith today has no such Mitzvah or Fatwah to destroy any Jews, So who is the liar here ??? The Jews throw people out of the Synagogue if they believe Jesus is Messiah. They had no state before in which to make this Mitzvah an inhumane crime against an individual, but with a State, to impose the Mitzvah of destroying Jews for Jesus is equal to NAZISM
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
Popes? You mean the men that Catholics say are infallible? Popes? the ones that have the title of Pontifax Maximus as Cesar?
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA The Pope is only infallible in matters of Faith , and the last time any pope made such a claim as to Faith with Infallibility was in 1953 on the assumption of the Ever Blessed Virgin Mary, that she never died, but was taken up with the angels, like Eve, who also never died, and like Elijah was taken up , that Mary never died, she was taken up by the angels. That was the last time a Pope spoke as an Infallible Faith Statement.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
OOOOPS! Now Jesus is a finger. Not just a mangod that Catholic say AND deny at the same time that he is.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA God and God's Finger is the same God, God is One, but God can express His Glory in many various ways, without losing the wholeness of Himself in that process. God is One Being, but able to appear as many Persons of Himself for a Work of God, and having fulfilled the Works of God, the Persons of God come together as One, making the Trinity a Way of God who is One to be a Unity of Works appearing out of God's own Mind, without compromising God's Sovereignty as One.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
So now carmine the catholic anti semite fascist runs to hide behind "Messianic" Jews???
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA Our Earliest Popes were Messianic Jews, that is historical facts, even until Fourth Century, we had Jewish Popes in Rome.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA In the age of Pope Gregory the Great, the last of the Latin Fathers before the German Gothic Rule of Kings took over Europe and put aside the Roman Way for centuries until the Renaissance , The Jews and Catholics lived for centuries with no conflicts. So the basic religious differences did not cause the problems, but history under Gothic German Rule in Europe and the Islamic Conquest tore apart the Catholic and Jewish good age of relationships .
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
Messianic Jews who understand Messiah is the Spirit of God, which appeared to the Jews in various ways,until Christ,the Levite High Priest of Yahweh whose body was the Sacred Vessel to Hold the Shekinah so we could see the Morning Star,but when the Day comes, we all get to wear the Crown of King and God enters all our flesh beings and makes us equal to Jesus Christ as Sons, so that Jesus is the First of the Brethren , not that Jesus became an Idol we bow to,but the Example of what we shall be.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
So Jesus does this or that and Krishna ddoes this or that. But the believrs in Krishna are not fascists and Catholics are.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA Jesus is an Appearing of God, The Finger of God , which Foreshadows what we all equally Inherit of God, to be Sons, in the Way of Salvation taught to us by Levite High Priest, Yeshua, Jesus Christ. We are One, the Ultimate end of the Catholic Church is the absolute equity of all People , saved in Christ, bowing to each other as Brethren, not in some eternal Hierarchy of Angels and Demons .
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
Catholicism is terrible for basic humanity. Since it requires the acceptance of lunatic contradiction from the start.Then any other lunacy can be fabricated like carminefragion stating that NAZIS were Jews that made Hitler kill them.
Man! Jesus is a demonic idea.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA We are not waiting for the Jewish Messiah, some mortal world leader who can do superhuman feats. We do not need a man, we have been sent past this episode of Messiah as One Appearing among us as High Priest, The Law is Finished, now God is openly indwelling the People, Christ is a part of us all, we all are the Body of Messiah , We Rise up in God our Savior, who has appeared to us as Jesus, but now coming into us as the Holy Ghost, We see Jesus only in Heaven
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA For us , Jesus is God coming out of the Shadow , appearing miraculously as the High Priest of Israel, Yeshua, in His Day. Now Jesus is in the Heaven on the Throne of God and the Coming of Jesus again is Universal , not as a man who walks into Jerusalem as an all conquering hero of the Jews, no, but that all eyes and ears are opened and our perceptional blindness to the Surrounding Yahweh is Healed and all men see God coming on the Clouds of Heaven. You are a Liar.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA It is you who wants to introduce to the world some mere mortal man as the messiah and you want us Christians to believe you can do this, but to us it is mere Sorcery. The Jews have no Authority to Incant the Word of God and make it so, though they climbed up to the stars, from there Yahweh will bring them down. We seek no messiah, no human form, no man made Pharaoh, for us Catholics this whole episode is over, Christ has come, and now God returns fully to us as Universal
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione YOU a bekievr in a magtha died says it is ME that is tryng to introduce the world to a mangod. You are a raving fascist lunatic. Christianity creates such paranoia
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
In fact Catholicism is waiting for an imaginary man god to come back and in the mean time worship their Pope leader as infallible as only God is.Add to this the fact that the Pope still has the title of nPontifax Maximus which is the title of Cesar. But catholic paranoia project upon monotheistic people that would never accept a man to be infallible the traits of what catholicism is.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA No, we are not waiting for any human figure to come into the world as Messiah , That is your Cult and your own Doomsday scenario. We believe Christ came and gave all the Gift of God to us that henceforth the Body of Christ is the Church the people are all in the assembly the Messiah, we have the Teaching of the Holy Spirit, We are inoculated against Messiah wannabees , We have Christ Emanuel God in us, and we see God in the Resurrection, not in World Politics,
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione NO you are a weird fascist cult that demonizes people. Christianity has the capacity to say AND deny something inthe same sentence which makes it a lunatic cult. Your statement that Cathoot wait for a man god which is the central pilar of Christianity shows Christian insanity. Yes, no, no yes. Just crazy
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
The Romans had for Five Hundred Years, until they got involved with the Hellenic Jews and Arabs, a system of Government as a Republic with Twelve Tables of the Law, a written code of a modern world for it's own time . The Romans were tutored by the Greeks in Science and Democracy, and of course, Romans learned the arts of War and solidified Italy as a State, All the Roman gods were just copycat stories of the Greek Myths, the Romans had a way of winking the eye at religion, it was amusement
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione Now the Romans did not believe in human deities and the Jews did? Carmine Catholicism makes people raving lunatics disregarding documented history and inventing a parallel delusion ninstead
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA You are just a propagandist and there is no historical truth in you. The Jews who felt betrayed by Hitler, after 1932, they left the NAZI party and formed the Black Front, one of those families included the Soros, George Soros family, who in the 1920s as part of the NAZI Progressive Socialist Jews, switched to the Polish Bund of the Communists as the Black Front, and to this day, they have a power agenda of world domination by their messianic visions that are Occult
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
The Paganus or Pagans merely means the Peasantry of the Land, such as "German" means a "Farmer" in their own ancient language. Germans are Farmers, Pagans were Farmers, so Germans and Pagans were the same type of rural farming communities. It has nothing to do with gods or religion. The Romans in their most ancient cities had no shrines or monuments to any gods. they were Stoics, Naturalists, and grew in the shadows of the Greek Way, and then the Hellenic Way to be History.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
Now we can clearly state that Christianity is virulent anti Semitism that is really the old pagan Rome in ation with a slight twist.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
Caemine are you admitting that Christianity came to restore Roman paganism from the influence of the monotheistic Jews?
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA first of all the term "Pagan" from the Latin Paganus is not about religion at all. The early Romans had no gods, they adopted those of Greece and later Middle East, some ten percent of the Romans were Jews, even in the house of Nero, his wife and grandson were Jews. So you have twisted all the evidence of history for a false litigation for which God is going to roast you in hell. You better repent for the Truth is not in you, only Propaganda.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione You are a fasccist bastard one just have to listen to your medieval "Jews are guilty of everything" NAZI rants. Catholicism IS fascist within itself.
Catholicism is the religion of Hitler and Mussolini. AND yours.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA HItler was a Jew and in the 1920s the Reform Jews under Hess made a Unity of the National Socialists Party and the Zionists Party to call it NAZI. Now the Reform Jews wore the Swastika and went to Israel under the Transfer Agreement in 1932. But the Orthodox Jews which rejected Israel , and rejected Hitler as the Messiah, made Hitler plot to wipe the Orthodox Jews out, but sent 50,000 Loyal Reform Jews as SS officers to Israel . Hitler loved the Zionists, hated the Jews
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
In 167 B.C. the Maccabees of Judea made the Treaty with Sparta and Rome, for their own desire to attach Yahweh's Name in sending a Gold Shield to the Roman Senate, making Jerusalem under the protection of the Roman Army against the Persian Parthians. It was the Jews that drew the Romans in, the Romans did not force themselves into Jerusalem,but when God saw the Jews made a Treaty by the Name of Yahweh with Roman Senate,the "Die was Cast" in God's eyes, Not our fault, but the fault of the Jews,
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
The Mystery of Babylon is in play by the growing power of the Ultra Orthodoxy in Israel , They kiss the ring of Ahmedinejad and the Mullahs, pleased to see them get the bomb, which is all a Chess Game to destroy the Political State of Israel as a Western Democracy and build a Temple to the Prince of Persia and bring a cloud, a Shadow of Dooms over the Valley of Vision, and these betrayers think they serve God by destroying the Liberty of the people, doing so in their Collective Divinity.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione The mystery of pagan Rome with the ingenious abylity to re-invent their pagan religion using Hebrew names and call it Christianity. To that keep adding fantastic stopries. Pity the millions that have died because of this weird stories. Based upon a man dead and gone.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA The Romans had no King and lived with a Republican form of Government which is similar to America today , for FIVE HUNDRED YEARS. And only when the Roman World of Cicero got involved with the Jews and Arabs, that they fell to Emperor Worship, which is a Middle Eastern Babylon Cult, that INFECTED the Roman Way, You speak as if the Romans invented these evils, no, the Jews and Arabs practiced these Mystery Babylon Cults and taught it to the Greco Romans, You are LIARS
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione " Israel as a Western Democracy" you mean the Jews are democratic now?
IamaZionistGoy 3 days ago
When the Ultra Orthodox Jews , by magic and manipulation to destroy the Democratic State of Israel to install a Theocracy pleasing to the Islamic Court, , then these Rabbis shall bring a Shadow of Dooms over the City of Jerusalem, as false gods before God, and then the People shall come under their rule and what went on in NAZI Germany will happen in Israel, in preparation to destroy the Jews so as to sell them as slaves to Egypt, and to Assyria, and then they shall mourn as for an only Son
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione NO Carmine. When the Jews fall in the magic trance by the power of the Holy Christian Spirit they will grow wings and fangs, breath fire and establish the kingdom of Urrukagina in the moutains of Valhalah. HEY! Carmine I think my imaginary story is better than yours.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA The only reason the Orthodoxy was not exposed as vicious and cruel as their Muslim counterparts, is that they were denied the Land in which to exercise their perrogatives . There is no dispute that either strict Judaism or Islam is incompatible with Democracy and Liberty. Both are Male Dominated Tribal Societies that put off Liberty until doomsday , saying when the Messiah comes, etc. But until then they desire to take the place of God as Cruel Masters and Sorcerers.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione Carmine your religion has made you a raving lunatic. You demonize a whole group of people that bhas done nothing to you. This is evidence that Jesus is realy the devil himself.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA Look, Solomon's Wisdom equals to Cicero's Wisdom as Great Figures in History, and the Roman Way stood for five hundred years as a Republic under the Rule of Law, until the Romans got involved with the Mystery of the Fertile Crescent , the Jews and Arabs polluted the Romans with thoughts of Divine Rulers, it was abhorrent to Romans that any man would be King, So it is the Jews and the Arabs who ruined the Western Civilization, not the other way around, You are the Evil.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione You are going to have trouble going back to the closet after such a maniacal Hitlerian (and thus false) statement.
This is your lunaccy : YOU believe in a man god ruler but you state that it was those that abhore the idea of men gods (The Jews) that somehow made those that already believed in human deities (the Romans) to believe that way when they are documented to follow the polytheist theology. And you call it pollution of the polytheists Romans?
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA According to the Jerusalem Post in Aug of 2010 that Hitlers' living relatives are all Ashkanazi Jews from Berber Morocco, who came in the Islamic Conquest of Spain , killed the Sephardic Jews and infused Judaism with Islam, and that Hitler's family were Conversos from about 1850 and that the name Hitler was contrived, that Hitler was in fact a Jew and involved with Madame Blavatsky's New Age Mysticism from the Middle East, "Hollow Earth and all that Rot" Repent.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
I am going to do what Carmine is doing. LOOK. The Hindu Scvriptures say " Krishna". NOW I interject " When I was child I usd to play and meditate". Wow this is evidence that I am Krishna.
Carmine this is exactly how you imagine Jesus into things.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
God can accept anyone to be a Jew, if their whole heart and soul is in it, and they are willing to take the Curse as well as the Blessing, But when Jews hold hatred towards Jesus and the Church , they scapegoat themselves by Judgment under the Shadows of God Yahweh' own Hand to blame others and thus prove they are not ready to be called " A People for my Name" When the Jews stop attacking the Messianic Jews, then they shall be Humbled enough for God to Restore Israel, both Jew and Gentile
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
Carminefragione. Proverbs does not say "Believe in Jesus" either. You continue to imagine things
OTRACUENTAPERRA 3 days ago
Lamentations 4:20 " The Lord's Anointed, our very Life Breath, was caught in their traps, We thought that under His SHADOWS we would live among the Nations" This explains that while Jesus is Messiah and the Jews lived among the Nations under the rule of Christendom , that their days were embittered and sufferings. God did not forget the Jews, but this Lesson of the Rod would never again be forgotten, it was not the fault of the Nations, it was the Will of the Messiah to see Israel suffer.
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
all the nt books were written by people well after the 'events' of TITUS ( all the jman stories match with Titus's adventures against the Jews and in same chronological order) and there were no first person eye witnesses . The books headings informs the readers that the book are according to.....
IamaZionistGoy 4 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy you read too many comic books, get your mind out of the Clutter.
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
@CarmineFragione ok see if you can de-clutter how many gods from other religions were born on the 25th December?
IamaZionistGoy 4 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy If a soul from God is a Gift out of the Passover Holocaust Offering in the Spring time of the Vernal Equinox, then Nine Months of Gestation in the Womb or in the Ark brings us to December 25 th, or there abouts, Nine Months for the pregnant Virgin Israel, Jesus was Conceived on Passover Week and then in a Jubilee Year Passover Week of Eight Days, He died on 6th day, then two Shabbats , and then Sunday morning is Three Days to the Resurrection on First Day after Passover
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
@CarmineFragione Where did you get all that from? The first four books differ from each other on the points you have raised. According to the nt books, 10 years difference in his birth and a day difference in his death but all say raised on Sunday either when its still dark or at day light etc BTW none of them mentions , Passover Holocaust Offering, Vernal Equinox, or in the Ark, Virgin Israel. Passover Week of Eight Days, More assertions huh. Are they all from greek bible?
IamaZionistGoy 3 days ago
Proverbs 36:7 " How priceless is your unfailing love ! Both High and Low among men find Refuge in the SHADOW of your wings " Genesis 19:8 "But do not do anything to these men, for they have come under the SHADOW of my roof " Isaiah 4:5 " Then the Lord will create over all of Mount Zion and over those who assemble there a Cloud of Smoke by day and a glow of flaming fire by night over all the Glory will be a CANOPY, It will be a Shelter and a SHADOW from the heat of the day,and a refuge"
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
2KIngs 20:9 "Isaiah answered , "This is the Lord's Sign to you that the Lord will do what he has promised: Shall the SHADOW go forward ten steps or shall it go back ten steps ? "It is a simple matter for the shadow to go forward ten steps, said Hezekiah, "Rather have it go back ten steps" Then the Prophet Isaiah called upon the Lord and the Lord made the SHADOW go back ten steps it had gone down on the stairway of Ahaz" The Lord going before the People is a Foreshadowing of the Way.
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
@CarmineFragione more assertions and more drawing of the circles around the arrow.
IamaZionistGoy 4 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy When Jesus died on the Cross, the Moon eclipsed the Sun that day and caused God to Overshadow the city of Jerusalem. Jesus was Conceived in the Passover Week ,as was Jeremiah , and both were born in Winter, So the Anointed Messiah would come and go by appointed seasons guided by the Jubilee Calendar of the Temple Priests, Showing these Anointed were prior existing in the Mind of God from Before the World began, From before the Ancient of Days. came forth the Messiah
CarmineFragione 3 days ago
Carmine. Judges 9:14 Does not say "Believe in Jesus" You are using your imagination.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 4 days ago
jman at times said he has always said things in open and other times he says things quietly to his 12.
IamaZionistGoy 4 days ago
One of Jesus' sins . "My believers will drink poison without harm".
This is an exortation to suicide based upon a lie. If you are one of Jesus believers PLEASE do not follow his lie.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 4 days ago
carminefragion in a nut shell (emphasis on nut) says "These are the details of Catholicism therefore my religion is true and yours is false" . What a basket case.
Christianity is not even remotely related to the Jewish Scriptures except by their use of Jewish names on Roman deities.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 4 days ago
In the shorter history of fact, without Christian Support the entire Zionist Theme of Israel would have been defeated by the Arabians, who sought to restore the Caliphate of Arabian Sunni Islam, but that the British and Americans as Christians intervened to justify the state of Israel. Thus if there be any Messiah , it comes by the Name of Jesus Christ by an honest historical appraisal of "WHO DID IT" It was not Magic, it was the Will of the Christian People to support the Jews with Mercy
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
@CarmineFragione You harp on about that Jews are not of Abraham not of Levite not seen god, that they follow Rambam blah blah blag then why your statement " it was the Will of the Christian People to support the Jews with Mercy". Where is your proof that these Jews, the xtians supported, are of Abraham and of Levite and that they can prove their genealogy.
IamaZionistGoy 4 days ago
@IamaZion The Reason the Jews found Supplication in our times goes to credit His Royal Majesty King George V of British Empire who conquered as a King of Kings all the land from Jerusalem to the Kyber Pass ,announcing the gift of the Balfour Declaration to make a haven for Jews( 1917) Then in 1922 The United States Congress enacted a Law, creating Israel as a State for the Jews. Now you can research the truth and see that a Branch of David's Crown among the English gave Israel to the Jews,
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy The Christians being set apart from the Observance of the Law, to have and hold the Blessings , Liberated from the Curses, is by an Intermediary, just as Deuteronomy 5 shows it was Moses speaking the Commandments to the people, yet Exodus 20 accredited to God as He who spoke, showing the grounds for the Trinity Nature of the One Being of God, giving Works out to His Persons of His Name and Glory, who then are not "besides God,": but by the Holy Ghost, standing Inside God.
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
@CarmineFragione More assertions?
So what the Creator said is a curse?
again you are bringing in your spook!
IamaZionistGoy 4 days ago
Now if there are any Jews, particularly a Levite with Genealogical Roles of the Lambskins to prove in Court they are direct ancestors to the House of David and more so to Abraham's Kinfolk, not one so called Jew has established the fact. The Fact is, in the Dark Ages, many Kings took one or another religion as the foundation of his own rule over the people. Judaism is happenstance by history making Gentiles behave with an assumed identity, while others may be the actual heirs by blood.
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
Jews who are Circumcised , are no more proven to be of the House of Abraham, as the Arabs who are also Circumcised. Imitation is not proof, To dress as a Jew, cut your flesh and write your name in blood on a Torah, any Magician can do, and then claim anything they want. But if the Heavens do not open and God does not Covenant with Messiah Anointing, then all we have is False Images, Graven Images, Idolaters who worship themselves in a Collective, without Signs of Emanuel God.
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
Ecclesiastes 9:11 " I have seen something else under the sun: The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned, but time and chance happen to them all. Moreover, no man knows when his hour will come: As fish caught in a cruel net or birds are taken in a snare, so men are trapped by evil times that fall unexpectedly upon them" This is why Jesus cursed the Fig Tree to show how time and chance happens.
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
The Light " Aleph" of God's Word, became flesh, "Men" ( made of water ) and the Way this was done was by "Shin" the Transforming Power of the Holy Spirit the Shekinah Glory that is also a Gift coming out of God down from Heaven in the Holocaust offering, entering the world of man a Servant to Israel, bearing the Feminine Gender, to turn the Invisible God into a Visible Priest of Yahweh Adonai , by the way of the Holy Ghost, the Nurturing Fire of God's Spirit, coming down to Anoint
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
There is no Neuter or Neutral Gender in Hebrew, every Word of God falls into the camp of being Masculine or Feminine. Three Letters of Hebrew Alphabet that defines Creation, Aleph, Men, Shin, The Aleph is Light, Men is Water, Shin is Fire, Light and Water are Materialistic but Fire is Behavioral. Light turns into Water by Condensation and Water turns into Light by Vaporation, Fire is the Rapid Evaporation, or Rapid Oxidation. God is Masculine, but His Active Verb is given as Feminine.
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
Without American aide from Nixon and Christian America, taking sides with the Jews, in 1974 the Israeli leader Golda Meir said, Israel was sunk, defeated, that the Arabs were going to over run and end the Democratic State of Israel, That was a fact, God would only save the Jews through the Spirit of Jesus Christ from the West, influencing American Christians to side with the Jews against their own Oil Interests of Saudi Arabia. Still the Jews want to say Jesus is not Messiah ???
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
In 1966 The Commie Jew Moishe Dayan , after the Jews won their war for the whole territory of Israel, the Commie Jews said "can't we just all get along" and they gave back the land to the defeated Palestinians. So the Arabs returned, Then in 1974 Golda Meir told President Nixon, Israel was done for, defeated, so Kissinger advised Nixon and Nixon sent sufficient Aide to save Israel , The Christians of America saved Israel, not the Jews, we did it, we who love Jesus, saved the Jews in 1974
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
Without the Christians, there is no way the Jews would have been saved from the Holocaust and have Israel as a Haven, Christian America enacted a Congressional Law in 1922 to declare Israel a State. America had it in it's power then to make Israel a State of the United States of America, but the Jews wanted Independence. Yet without the Supplication of the Christian Western World, the Arabs would have over run the Jews long ago, and they would have been exposed as false Rabbis,
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
xtianity is like someone shooting an arrow at a board and then draw circles around it and making the arrow be at the center of center circle. They pluck a notion that their deity is god in three and then change the Tanach here and tweak there and say SEE jman is god in three. Xtian fooled the pagans and illiterates around the world for long time till more and more people could read and write and found the xtian bible to be holey. The stories of nt are full of holes.
IamaZionistGoy 4 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy Jesus said he had the power to rise from the dead, He did not just rise from the dead and then we all drew a story around the incident. You are a liar and going straight to hell. Nothing you say has merit with God, not a word, you are just separating yourself further and further away from God, who is the Truth. Even the Apostles could not believe Jesus rose from the dead, until they saw Him. To see Jesus is to see the Glory of God, the Act of God is yet God.
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
@CarmineFragione Lets see Lazarus would have been famous for being 'risen' and how many decedents were there? why did paul or peter not talk about him? Can xtians can say that they are from lazarus's seeds? Is there any decedents?
jman 'rising' stories are so vast and varied and even the place were he supposed to have ascended from are two miles apart. Someone is telling porkies.
IamaZionistGoy 4 days ago
Genesis 1:1 opens as the Narrator apart from God as the Second Person speaking of God the Creator the First Person, Then in the second verse the Spirit of God was seen moving over the waters, the Third Person Tense. Then in verse three, God is quoted as directly speaking as God, " Let there be light" So in Three Verses, God unravels His Trinity Being, as Creator , as Spirit, as the Narrator Speaker who teaches Torah on behalf of the Creator, So the Jews have rejected Anointed One.
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
@CarmineFragione Is that what you think?
.......and when the Creator says that there is no one else besides Him? Are you calling Him a LIAR? are you?
IamaZionistGoy 4 days ago
In Genesis 1:12 God gives the Gift of the Tree, but gives it in a Trinity Design. God speaks of the Natural Plant, then the Fruit of the Tree, then the Seed of the Fruit of the Tree. Which is Motion, as God is a Verb, not just a Noun, God moves His Appearances as the Tree, from the plant to the Fruit to the Seed, Plant is the Father, the Fruit is the Holy Spirit Mother, the Seed is the Son ,the offspring of the Eternal, so that the Tree of Life never really dies, it comes again.
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
?@CarmineFragione 'God moves His Appearances as the Tree, from the plant to the Fruit to the Seed, Plant is the Father, the Fruit is the Holy Spirit Mother'
Have you read what you typed? holy spirit is 'mother'? hail mary mother?
The Creator is a tree now? next you will say xmas tree is the Creator?
IamaZionistGoy 4 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy The Rosh Ha Kodesh is given in Hebrew by the Feminine Gender, while the Father and Son Unity is given by a Masculine Gender. Can you deny this ? The Holy Spirit was taken directly out of Sovereign God, as a Supplication , a Gift, The women Eve, was taken out of man , as a Gift a Helper, a Servant to the man , So God knows what God is doing, The Holy Spirit is a Nurturing Spirit , a Person, given a Feminine Gender, The Fruit and it's Seed, the Woman and Her Seed.
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy Genesis 2:24 "She will be called Woman for she was taken out of man" Genesis 3:15 "And I will put enmity between you and the Woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel" Jeremiah 31:22" The Lord will create a new thing on earth- a Woman will surround a man" The Holy Spirit is analogous to Virgin Israel, and Mary played out the role of the Suffering Servant giving God the Way to appear as High Priest Jesus, Incarnation
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
Torah's teaching on Oneness Genesis 1:9 "Let all the Waters under the sky be Gathered into One Place" Genesis 2:24 "For this reason a man will leave his mother and father and be United to his wife and they will become ONE flesh" Genesis 11:6 " The Lord said "If as ONE PEOPLE speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they have begun to do will be impossible for them" THESE are the first THREE TIMES the concept of ONE is introduced into Torah, It is a Collective Noun
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
@CarmineFragione Torah does teaches Oneness of Creator
Care to read the following verses? Exodus 20:2-3 Numbers 23:19 Deuteronomy 4:11-12, 4:35,4:39, 6:4, 6.14, 32:39, I Samuel 2:2, 15:29, I Kings 8:27, 8:60, II Kings 19:19, Isaiah 40:18, 40:25, 42:8, 43:10-11, 44:6-8, 44:24, 45:5-6, 45:18-19, 45:21-22, 46:5, 46:9, 48:11, Hosea 13:4, Joel 2:27, Malachi 2:10, Psalm 73:25, Psalm 81:8-9, Psalm 146:3, Nehemiah 9:6 and I Chronicles 17:20.
IamaZionistGoy 4 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy You have skipped the First Three Times the term One was used by God in Torah , so you are defying God to explain Oneness by God's own Mind, and you are then proceeding to follow the false teachings of the Rabbis which deny God the First and the Last, to explain the Patterns by which God revealed Mystery of God's Nature to Moses. One is a Collective Noun, "First" is an Objective Noun. One and First do not mean the same things, You have fallen short of the Glory of God's Wisdom
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy Care to answer Exodus 20 where God is speaking the Ten Commandments to the people, and then Deuteronomy 5 where it reveals Moses was the Intermediary who spoke the Ten Commandments to the People, because they were afraid to see and hear ? So, was it Moses speaking or God, or Both, Answer the question, was Moses' mouth then the Sacred Property of Yahweh so that as Moses spoke it was Yahweh God speaking directly to the People, as Messiah , the Anointed One, or not ???
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
@CarmineFragione What about all the prophets who spoke to the fellow Jews? Was it the Creator speaking or the prophets?
All the Kings were anointed and they were messiahs. Cyrus was Creator's anointed and therefore he was messiah.
' they were afraid to see and hear ' Yes because they seen and heard enough prior some of them received instant punishment for going against the Creator. But your assertions in all your comments exposes the desperation of xtians to prove what cannot be.
IamaZionistGoy 4 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy When the Shekinah came down and rested upon the Chosen Prophets, it was God seizing up the flesh of the Chosen and in those times , when the Holy Prophets spoke by the Holy Spirit, it was God taking up residence inside their bodies and moving their mouths and over ruling the lowly nature of the man, elevating for a short time that man to equity to God. The Holy Ghost Indwells the Anointed, and finally Jesus is the Word of God made flesh, in whom is the Father & Holy Spirit
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
@CarmineFragione The Shekina of Christianity is an imaginary one.The one we see in the Hebrew Testament was verifiable.
OTRACUENTAPERRA 4 days ago
@OTRACUENTAPERRA Judges 9:14 " Finally all the Trees said to the Thornbush, Come and be our King. The Thornbush said to the Trees, "If you really want to anoint me King over you, come and take Refuge in my Shadow; but if not let Fire come out of the Thornbush and Consume the Cedars of Lebanon" Here God is showing the Fact that the Shadow of Yahweh saved Israel from being Consumed, the Fore Shadowing of Messiah was the Law in Israel, A Portion poured out for the Lord, the empty Chair.
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
@IamaZionistGoy When ever God takes up the man's hand to hold it, it was for a brief time. Sometimes Moses was God, that God took over the body of Moses, and so God was appearing as Yahweh from inside the chosen vessel, Moses, and other times Moses was just a man and sinful. Jesus was born of the Holy Spirit without Fault or Blemish , Jesus never sinned, never fell out of the Being of God, but walked with God Bet to Taw , and so Father and Son was One, a collective Noun Yahweh.
CarmineFragione 4 days ago
@CarmineFragione Jesus was a pure sinner. He lied repeatedly.
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