@SecretsOfLongevity Author - Robert Anton Wilson. Book - Prometheus Rising. It seems you are highly aware of reality tunnels . LOL. This book is right up your alley.
@mushroomhill You don't hear what I'm saying because you don't choose to. That's fine but you won't be able to have a logical debate with me because that is something you're incapable of comprehending when you shut your mind off like you have.
Sorry but Im taking advice from the person who is not trying to sell anything. Durrianriders ideas are as free as fruit is from god. Who you going to want to listen to? Stage-men selling crap so that they convince you is going to make you happy? Junk/shit/crap/waste/lies
@mushroomhill Both Harley and I (and every other health teacher) gives free advice. All of us who do it professionally have ways of making money too (Harley sells $1,500 month long consults, I sell $87 1.5 hour consults, who's really ripping people off here). If something has been proven scientifically to effect a positive change in one's health there's no harm in selling it. No one is holding a gun to your head telling you you have to take it.
or lfraw are skinny because they poorly combined the aminoacid. There are so little guys who have succed on these because they do know how to mix fruits on a day to get all nutrients, or they just drink thous rice base protein powders like sunwarrior and others. Well do whathever you want, but you have to realize that most raw vegans and also meat eaters have their brains been influenced by parasites, that is why they fight constantly and see themself with muscle when they have not
All raw vegan are not realizing this. And the ones who thing it do not work start eating meat LOL, because they do not realize that what they have are parasite. We humans are NOT DESIGN TO EAT RAW VEGETABLES AT ALL. Most raw vegetables contain a lot more of vitamin we need. There are a number of raw vegetables that are safe to eat, but if you eat just raw your chances to get parasites are extremly high, that is why all are so skinny, parasite eats most of their nutrients XD, and most frutarians
Facts, like 99% of raw vegan have endless detox sympthons, that is why they are always catching new parasite. There are to ways of getting parasites, by eating meat or by eating raw vegetables that have not been aproperly clean. That is why they so jelously fight for promoting this, parasites get into your neuronal system. Get a good clean (lot of garlic with lemon, every day blend garlic with water and lemon) also drink teas that destroy parasites. Fruit that destroy parasite, bananas, apples.
like i said to you, one thing is what you have read and another different thing is what you can expirience in real life. Stop been naive, raw food gave you parasite that is why you have gas, note legumes. Both my brain and my body have been working amazingly since put a good amount of legumes in my diet. I been veg lots of years and like i said i have relatives been veg (cook) for generations. His grandfather still makes bread and he is 96 years old. Facts, like 99% of raw vegan are skinny
Harley is an idiot..... he takes b12 shots regularly, advocates vasectomies, has a fake titted girlfriend yet preaches about natural living. He talks about RAW FOOD HUCKSTERS trying to steal your money whilst charging 1000 dollars per consultation.....He's banned female members from his website degrading them in a disgusting fashion, the man has small penis complex, he's a fucking bullshitter.
Ok $1000.00 consult,that would of saved me a lot more.Well worth it,and he turned me on to the China study,that has a lot more research than any thing I can find. David Wolfe would have you spend 2k in one outing.
Why would you buy any of Darians books when you said it yourself they are free.
Versus a Longgevity conf.to listen to the hokey pokey,the cacoa powder is sexually lining you up with the sun! lol
@rykinetics22 You haven't the slightest clue what you're even talking about. The China Study is complete bogus, while cacao isn't anything that special no one is saying you have to eat anything like that. Certain superfoods have scientifically validated benefits and you can even eat them while on 811 without negative side effects. I've consistently put out the challenge for anyone to prove to me with scientific research how these things are harmful or at best do nothing for you. No one can.
@SecretsOfLongevity cacao is a stimulant like coffe, not to good but it will certanly not kill you LOL xD. Dude you shoul try a vegan diet wich have lentils and some cereal for protein. Legumes are the best anticancerigenuos food on earth and have almost all minerals the body need. I been bodybuilding with lentils and rice, fruits for vitamins like bananas, lemons. Raw veggies like carrot, garlic. I train 1 day a week whole body and have gain in 2 month 15 kilos lean muscle. Try it.
@SecretsOfLongevity gas issue with legumes only ocurs when you have something rotten on your body. After a couple of days the fiber on legumes will clean your intestines and you will no longer have gas. Lentils to me is the best legumes in combination with rice. I eat two raw cup of lentils (i soaked, throw water away, coocked with new water without salt or anithing for 25 minutes and then throw the water away.) In other pot i coocked rice, withe or brown it do not matter xD, also two cup.
@irlumir Different people tolerate different foods to varying degrees. After 10 years as a vegetarian and then a vegan, multiple colonics, herbal cleanses, sprouting AND cooking beans and grains, they still gave me gas. They STILL contain antinutrients that bind to minerals and they still resulted in the decreased bone, muscle and brain density experienced by our ancestors when agriculture began. I cover all of these points with scientific references in my more recent videos.
@rykinetics22 Yeah he only sells $1000 consults and a whole bunch of ebooks which all say the same thing you can find out from his videos... Everyone needs to make money somehow. That in and of itself is not a bad thing.
Good post. I personally have a feeling that this Harley guy is out to make a name for himself by discrediting those in the health scene most popular in an attempt to convert some of their followers to himself, all just in order to make a better living from being a raw vegan.
Who cares how the colostrum is collected, its not meant for human consumption. Durianrider does a great job calling out people like David Wolfe and Daniel Vitalis, they are in it for the money, not for the greater good of the people.
@vault3420 It has a physiological effect and it is a beneficial one. If you can provide some scientific credibility to your belief that it does nothing for peoples health by all means please present it. You can post it here or as a comment or video response on my video about the science that proves colostrum has a myriad of health benefits:
@vault3420 So the body like rejects the Colostrum if it is then not meant for it? I suppose then us human animals are not meant to ride bikes but wait, Durianrider does that doesn't he?
@sillygoose544 Durianrider has posted his blood tests on youtube, I doubt Daniel Vitalis or David Wolfe would ever release that information. Just buy their products and you won't need blood tests!
I like to take what I can use from ALL posts, because I seriously believe that every so-called "guru" does have something positive to offer that I can use. If I don't agree with something, I simply don't employ it in my life. What I can say as a manager for a few Native American (real ones not self-proclaimed shamans) is that the marketing of overpriced crap is rampant. No one needs supplements if they eat right. Harley is a satirist, he's harmless & walks his talk. Lighten up everyone.
@mythicstealth Native Americans traditionally consume diets rich in a number of diverse herbs, plants and animals. This is a naturally supplemented diet. Just because an herb comes in a container does not make it unhealthy. Fresh is best but there is a market for packaged materials, some are truly crap (synthetic supplements), but there's plenty of effective options. Harley would put down the Natives you've worked with just as quickly as anyone else eating meat. He meets the criteria of a bigot.
@SecretsOfLongevity right but Harley's diet is affordable to anyone and he doesnt selling fruit . Its the salesman who can't afford to be full disclosure .
@NWforager Every speaker has their bias. Harley operates a site that is geared towards low fat raw veganism and sells products, offers (very expensive) consultations and asks for donations. He, just like any other public health figure is subject to be biased. As for people being able to afford his diet, that's great but you shouldn't arrange your lifestyle to suit your income, you find out what is healthy and then get the income to live the lifestyle you want.
@SecretsOfLongevity "you shouldn't arrange your lifestyle to suit your income,you find out what is healthy and then get the income to live the lifestyle you want"
That would be great !! So often the pursuit of the income is what leads to health issues. I'm subed to yours ,his and a slew of health(y) folks channels and ideas . I get what you mean about bias but I haven't seen many if any vids from Durianrider with product placement other than books available at the local library though.
@NWforager Again that sort of mentality is one of poverty mind consciousness. If you don't want or can't afford something don't buy it. But that doesn't mean that their use is unsubstantiated. If anyone can prove that all supplements and all superfoods have 0 health effects or worse only negative health effects, I'd wouldn't stand behind any of them. But it's a scientific fact that many herbs and nutrients have benefits. Again if you're poor put your money to where it needs to go.
@SecretsOfLongevity fortunately cash doesnt equal health . I'm sure you'll agree. Love to see some vids on how to forage and make these supplements /superfoods that are for sale .
Not one to say these things have 0 merit . Many times the value of a thing is lost in the sales pitch . People get skeptical ,rightfully so . I'd be glad to test the claims of some samples of the products and write reviews/testimonials for the site.
@NWforager I have covered this issue in a past video. Money most certainly does equal health. Not everyone with money chooses optimal health and a good lifestyle but also poor classes of people even more so don't choose healthy lifestyles. If you have money you have a wider choice of options that go much beyond just food: /watch?v=FZQlNsCjjTE
By the way I have a few vids on foraging and that's an amazingly good habit to get into. I'm no expert on it but I'm all for it.
@SecretsOfLongevity guess it depends about the money thing. got friends from poor countries who came here in awesome shape and start adopting our american health issues . So , maybe information and cash go hand in hand healthwise . Lots of countries see fat as a sign of wealth . i'm pretty poor as you stated ,but fitter than my rich bosses who can afford hi cost dr's and pills which i can't .
@NWforager I totally hear you on that, plenty of developing countries people (sometimes) have great health because they don't eat heavily processed foods. But in a specific demographic such as Canada (which I refer to statistics from Can in that vid) the lifespan of the lowest income people compared to the highest has a bigger gap then comparing people who get cancer vs. those who don't. Of course, most health issues can be avoided even when you have no money.
@NWforager I totally hear you on that, plenty of developing countries people (sometimes) have great health because they don't eat heavily processed foods. But in a specific demographic such as Canada (which I refer to statistics from Can in that vid) the lifespan of the lowest income people compared to the highest has a bigger gap then comparing people who get cancer vs. those who don't. Of course, most health issues can be avoided even when you have no money.
Yes harvesting milk / colostrum from cows is stealing it... The cow did not consent to give it to you or consent to being impregnated. And you can't use the if we didn't use cows they would all die argument that is the stupidest, most highly regurgitated argument I hear. cows are intelligent beings not just a means to an end, it is morally wrong to exploit them.
@tregglekid oh my fucking god! If you give a cow some grass to eat, does he need to give you his consent? No! Consent is a human concept that you're applying to cows. If you're not causing her suffering, what's wrong with "stealing" her milk? If a cat comes to my door begging for food and shelter, and I give it food and shelter in exchange for companionship, am I exploiting it?
To say taking milk/colostrum from a cow, even if its done kindly, is a triple-win symbiotic situation for everybody, sounds awkward even sarcastic to me.
If I take a being, lock it up for years (concerning the calf from the start) it will become nonviable for sure. Symbiose means interaction.
@marcluc1988 Are you talking about drinking human milk/colostrum? Most humans will want that for teir baby as they don't produce an excess of colostrum like cows do. I'm sure if you were drawn to doing that you could find a willing soon to be mother somewhere. Whatever floats your boat ;)
@Jordonification I have not said that anywhere in my last comment or anywhere on my channel. Do you get a kick out of using bad reasoning and logic to attempt to prove a point that you have no scientific understanding of?
@SecretsOfLongevity How is that bad reasoning and logic? Collostum comes from the mother cow between 42-78 hours (varies) following the delivery of a calf. No matter how you slice it your stealing the nutrition that is for the baby. So if you like drinking cows milk how would you not like sucking on cows nipples? Or does that aspect gross you out? Cut out the middle man and go get your own milk. I get my own food, so you should be able to steal some collostrum from a defenseless mother.
@Jordonification The bad reasoning and logic is drawing a conclusion when there has never been a suggestion of it, which is what you did. I pay a farmer to collect raw milk for me. If I had the time and resources to collect my own milk, I probably would drink it still warm and very fresh from the udder, but not on my hands and knees and with my mouth that's impractical.
Since you base your belief system on JUST narrow minded dogma, here's some other points to consider: /watch?v=huk6RN-FyQc
@SecretsOfLongevity Your videos are impractical much the same as your collostrum and probably your magic mushrooms that you've been smoking off camera.
the only time I ever heard about durianrider is when I saw a video with him attacking david wolfe. Becoming famous for talking bad things about others is not wise at all. Who likes to hate ? Who likes to say "look, that person has man boobs" ? So, someone has a big nose and is selling chlorella ...So what ? Do we have to hate that person ? I guess some ppl just love to hate - I see some ppl already joined durianrider on his hate trip to nowhere. Good luck !
I do not believe that humans, like other animals, require colostrum beyond suckling from their mother as an infant. If we did, it would be human colostrum, and you would line up at your mother's breast daily.
Your statement about a maternity ward suggested some type of shangri-la for cows happy to share their colostrum is ridiculous.
Vegan armchair logic? What about your logic? Suggesting these animals are only here for you and could not survive without you is arrogant, and just as dogmatic.
@jtbnin No one has ever claimed that colostrum from cows is necessary. It's something that can benefit us however, just search "bovine colostrum" on pubmed and try to find one negative study and send it to me :)
I never said it was a shangri-la for cows, that's YOUR interpretation of my words. I also never suggested cows are "happy" to share their colostrum. They almost certainly have no feeling on the matter either way. The problem with vegan arm chair dogma is that they personify all animals.
@SecretsOfLongevity Pubmed...a governmental unbiased source? As a litmus test, I searched for Gerson Therapy. Allopathic medicine at it's best. While much of the information there may very well be quite accurate, I find it a suspect source for all sides of the argument. Bovine colostrum is meant for calves in my opinion.
Personifying animals is a problem for you and others who wish to exploit them for profit.
It's been nice visiting with you. Best of luck to you.
I was really listening until you said the makers of this colostrum product set up "maternity wards" for the collection of the product. You lost me right there. (Now if you show me a video of that including their cable tv and grasses from around the world buffet, I will apologize publicly to you). Just previous to that, you mentioned it was not stolen from the cows. Did the cows offer to provide it to their collectors in exchange for their posh lifestyles?
@jtbnin Investigate it yourself. Dr. Anthony Kleinsmith is the industry leader in colostrum research and product development. Why would you apologize to me publicly if I showed you a video of that, you haven't insulted me?
Cows are not a wild animal, they were bred from the Auroch (now extinct) and cannot survive in the wild. The vegan armchair idea of cows signing a waiver before "donating milk" or whatever it is they would like to see happen is silly and based in dogmatic views on health.
You know, you could have just argued against durianrider's logic and presented your viewpoint, but no, you had to make it personal and insult him by calling him egotistical, insecure and mean-spirited. At least durianrider isn't a hypocrite and doesn't pretend not to be insulting.
@rabidrandy That wasn't a personal attack, that was an observation based on his way of communicating. If you call someone an idiot for no reason, that's an insult. If you call someone something negative but they've behaved in a way that IS that way, you're commenting on that behavior. DR doesn't see himself as insulting but he is. When you post pictures of people and insinuate that they look ugly or some other INSULT, that is based just on appearance and has nothing to do with proving a point.
@SecretsOfLongevity Talk about basing something on appearance, Durianrider SEEMS to be calling Wolfe "fat", but what he REALLY means is that he's ugly. I get it! What else is Durianrider doing but commenting on Wolfe's negative behavior (fat-stocking and huckstery) when he calls him a fat huckster? Don't get me wrong, DR is a dickhead, but at least he doesn't hide behind pop psycho babble. (If I missed a video of DR ACTUALLY calling Wolfe ugly, please disregard some of this message)
@rabidrandy I wasn't talking about David, I was talking about Daniel and if you actually look at the link posted in the description he is INSINUATING that Daniel looks like a Neanderthal and that that is a bad thing. Whether he's saying Neanderthals are ugly (my observation and choice of words, I'm not saying it's correct) or if he meant to say they're un-evolved looking etc, doesn't matter, he implying a negative connotation. If you make rude and baseless accusations you will be blocked.
@SecretsOfLongevity Well, the picture of the neanderthal is broken on that blog, and how do you know he's insinuating that he LOOKS like a Neanderthal, and not that he ACTS like a neanderthal, which is durianriders real gripe with him? And now you're saying that i'm making rude and baseless accusations? That's rude and baseless!
not all have philosophies because they have labels. some have labels because they have philosophies! Ohh.. I know what ya mean though, sick and tired of those ism schism games die and go to heaven in jesus name. well well, u are an interesting channel, I like you, but what harley said did strike me. teaching longevity while still young! unless you're secretly 150 w/ good skin
I think he primarily "exposes" leaders/salesmen whom many follow. Not to justify but at least clarify :) peace
@peacewalker7 Check out my video on whether someone young can talk about longevity or not: /watch?v=KKUvVXEycLc Talking about any subject you deal with facts. Harley hasn't won the tour de France yet he's trusted to speak about biking. A gerontologist doesn't have to be a senior citizen to study gerontology in University. A nutritionist doesn't have to be a farmer to understand and teach about nutrition...
I'm well aware what he's about and his "exposing" is just his opinion, not fact.
Everybody has a different perspective to bring to the table, Durianrider to me is just being himself, yes he is bold and can be pretty straight up and even offensive, but hey, what kind of world would it be if we didnt have the wide range of different perspectives? Acting with Integrity???Well that is really is in the eye of the individual, everyone has a subjective point of view and what is integrity and truth for one may be the complete opposite to another. See my point.....
@mixtld Integrity has a pretty clear definition. Attacking someone or something personally without scientific evidence is non-integrous.Of course I value the wide range of perspectives in the world. I respect DR just like I respect all religions. Just because these perspectives exist doesn't make it OK for them to persecute others or bomb them etc.
@SecretsOfLongevity I agree the definition is pretty clear cut, however there is still a subjective interpretation to any scenario, one can interpret things very different to another hence the many different oppinions on this comment bourd. You said "Just because these perspectives exist doesn't make it OK for them to persecute others or bomb them etc." If the perspective exists then it must be valid, why would creation create something that is not valid or is not worthy?
@mixtld It's not that difficult to understand what I'm saying. Have a look at DR's blog and see what he has said. He feels it's his sense of humor and that's fine, but anyone that is not a follower of his can see quite plainly that it is internet bullying. Sounds silly and something a child would do, but that's exactly it, it's immature! You don't need to put anyone down to prove a point. Medical journals keep things academic and strictly to reason and logic. We don't need to be academics...
@mixtld ...but at least strive for a similar level of respect to your peers in your field of study.As for "why would creation create something that is not valid or not worthy?", that is irrelevant. We're not talking about some grand philosophical idea here, just whether or not someone is being respectful in their critique or not.
@SecretsOfLongevity Fair enough DR's blog is going to stir alot of people up, but again he has his unique element to bring to the table, if its bold and offensive and childish to some than so it will be, and to others its a breath of fresh air. Thats the beauty of life right there. As for the 'philisophical idea' i made, well its not really that philisophical....to me its pretty straight forward comment illistrating my point in minimal words.
I link to these two pubmed abstracts as well, giving evidence of colostrum being used with cancer patients:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19410980
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18064645
I'm well aware that IGF-1 is a hormone, my point still stands that studies on isolated com[ounds, nutrients and/or hormones do not apply to whole foods.
@ilkkavu Only in existing cancer states. Otherwise, how could it be measured. Dude, IGF-1 is a GROWTH FACTOR... It contributes to the growth of all types of cells.
@b0ondockz No, why would I be mad at that? You made a baseless comment, which is obviously tinged with sarcasm and considering I don't know you, probably not the friendly kind, and I responded quite to the point. I usually delete and block comments and people like that although I'm leaving it up for the hilarity of your ignorance.
@SecretsOfLongevity I love the way you talk bro, it's so radical. Where can I get this head dressing you wear? These garments and hand movements must make you very wise man. Tell me gypsy, where can we get a headband like this?
@b0ondockz Canadian accents are radical and sound wise? Alright then. The bandana is a waterproof one I got at a outdoor sports attire store in Skagway Alaska before the starting the chilkoot trail. The shirt is from some sports store in a mall in Burlington Ontario.
DurianRider claims to utilize a diet that produces ideal human health yet he's over 6' tall and weighs 135 lbs. I'm not seeing the proverbial Michelangelo's David when watching his vids. I'm seeing an emaciated guy who's sporting a poor skin complexion and less muscle mass than an 84 year old geriatric. He's also swinging around a level of fanaticism that would impress a Spanish Inquisitor, a tell-tale sign that a part of his brain is aware of the fact that he's straddling a volcano of bullshit.
I think its great that all of you are arguing.. the more you'll argue the more I learn because you all have to prove just a little more every time you get called out. Good luck to all of you and thank you.
Why not drink human milk, too? Why not human colostrum? You would'nt ever right? I feel the same way about cows. This is not meant for YOU-it is meant for a baby. Baby human-baby cow.
@theRoseofmyheart Sure, I would drink human milk and colostrum if the person producing it was eating a healthy diet. Lactating women in Hunter Gatherer societies gave milk to the sickest people in their group because milk is very healing. The "milk is for baby cows" argument is so old, and is not based in science or logic. Please watch this video to learn about the health benefits of milk as you are sorely mistaken and confused on the subject due to watching vegan dogma: /watch?v=huk6RN-FyQc
@wingchunming I explain it in this video here: /watch?v=huk6RN-FyQc&feature=fvsr
This video is about colostrum, not dairy in general. If you have points you'd like me to respond to related to dairy, please post them on that video or better yet make a video response.
Durianrider is a fucking nob. He is on EPO for sure cos NOBODY could ride a bike that fast/far on just 'fruit and water' like he claims.
Have you seen his running times this year? That sort of imporovement 100% highlights some HARDCORE pharmacutical abuse of the highest order! I want to see someone do a vid on 'durianriders epo stash' lol! He can give it but can he take it? Your busted DR! GAMES OVER BRO! ;)
I wouldnt say Durianrider is insecure... being passionate about treating all living, feeling, emotion capeable beings as you would want to be treated doesnt seem in any way insecure. outraged, maybe, bc its kind of crazy that its okay in society to mistreat and abuse anything that isnt human... But i think hes trying to say that we dont need all the fancy potions and packaged foods. Raw fruits and veg have been shown to prevent & reverse cancer and disease. Simplicity.
@Loverlykris10 Everything you mentioned is fine for anyone to believe in, but that doesn't dismiss the way he goes about communicating those values. His approach does convey insecurity, otherwise he would have no use for insults, personal attacks and slander.
@SecretsOfLongevity Yes hes extreme but i dont think insecure. There is a lot of lies and rubbish out there. he is just motivated to help others to by dismissing them and to maybe help them see the truth. The way he presents info is his own way and the way he believes is correct
@Loverlykris10 There's those who deal with facts and science and those who would like to but don't understand it, they back on libelous slander. If he believes slander is "correct" then he's delusional and so are those that follow him.
@Loverlykris10 Since you closed your account before I got respond to your PM, I'll post my message here in the advent that you ever return under a different username:
I don't block people out of spite, only if they're being unreasonable.
You might perceive me as being biased or not having experience, but what are you basing this on? You haven't asked me how long I've been involved in teaching about health nor what experiences I have...
@Loverlykris10 ...Using the "argument" of "you're biased and teaching the wrong info" simply shows your own bias, which is not liking what someone says because it opposes your paradigm of understanding. I strive to be unbiased, and in a health world that is heavily swayed by dogma, idealism and pseudo religious beliefs, it can be difficult! If you're wanting to debate anything by all means point out what I'm so "biased about", and I'll be happy to respond should you keep it free of insults.
The reason why @mara3o brought up veal calves is because in the dairy strain of cows (as opposed to the beef strain), almost all of the males are killed young. These are veal calves; the veal industry is a byproduct of the dairy industry. There is therefore, blood on the hands of people who steal milk intended for calves. For dairy cows to be in a perpetual state of lactation, they are inseminated (raped) once a year for their entire adult lives, which is unethical & cruel. Drop dairy. Go vegan.
@u7name I hear your concerns about veal and actually there are farms that raise veal just for their meat, but yes factory farmed dairy has their males go to slaughter. If this is an issue for you you can always search out a farmer that is not doing this practice, they do exist. As for your personification of cows being "raped" to be impregnated, that's extremely inaccurate and ignorant vegan rhetoric. The reason heifers are inseminated by humans is that bulls can hurt them, better than the alt.
@SecretsOfLongevity Nothing could compel me to consume the milk of another species. It is unethical & deleterious to human health. Dairy is too concentrated in protein, which growing evidence suggests is carcinogenic. Further, it is my belief that to keep cows impregnated their entire adult lives (they are typically killed when their milk production drops) is cruel & unnecessary if people would respect cows enough to stop eating dairy. All nutrients in dairy can be found in vegan food. Go vegan!
@u7name I am editing a video on dairy I shot last night, it's long but addresses all your concerns and issues, including the extremely bad science found in The China Study you're alluding to. Protein is not carcinogenic, mutated proteins are (ie. A1 casein found only in Holstein cows which was used in the China Study). Show me a single plant source of vit A, cholesterol and D3 then I'll believe veganism is sustainable to people's health long term. BTW plants only contain vit. A precursors.
@SecretsOfLongevity. Your "SecretsOfLongevity" user name is false if you are promoting dairy. With all due respect, you are misinformed. Please search the letter from Robert M. Kradjian, MD to his patients about the dangers of dairy products and read it. Then, please order and watch the DVDs "Eating" and "Healing Cancer from the Inside Out" from RaveDiet.com. As Malcolm X said, "If you know, teach; if you don't learn. While I believe you mean well, you just aren't ready yet to teach. Go vegan!
@u7name Simply stating I am wrong because I need to read "x,y and z" is not how you back up an argument. I am very familiar with plenty of nutritional information all across the board, so don't for a second try to make the point that I am misinformed. If you have knowledge on something show it by explaining why you think you are right and I am wrong, not just posting a bunch of stuff you think I should go read and watch (without even posting links!). Post a video response if you have to...
@SecretsOfLongevity There is a tremendous amount of information that you are missing. Watching two 90 minute videos and reading one letter from an MD to his patients would be necessary for you to be filled in on the info that you're missing. As for your claim about my not posting links, YouTube doesn't allow us to post full links so I posted one partial link: RaveDiet.com and the other I tested if you search it comes up very easily. Dr. Robert M. Kradjian's letter is on NotMilk.com. Go vegan!
@u7name You have to separate the dots and slashes with brackets. I found the letter and looked through it. It is rehashed old information that again are promoted as vegan propaganda. Vegans are notorious for overlooking specifics such as the China Study using the counties eating meat as proof that meat is bad for you and not taking into account that those were also the most industrialized counties where workers smoked, didn't work outdoors, lived in polluted cities and the meat they were...
@u7name ...eating was from McDonalds. (much more on this subject can be read at rawfoodsos (.) com) Other sites and books focus on factory farmed meat and dairy and make blanket statements about these foods without looking at the difference between it and properly and healthfully raised forms of it (as I discuss in my video which I already posted and expect you to take the time to watch if you're serious about responding to my points). Again you've posted bunch of references without giving...
@u7name ...any many points 1st. In a debate people reference something to support a stance, not to be the stance in and of itself. It just demonstrates your lack of understanding on the topic! As for the DVD, you don't use references people have to go buy. If you have something to say, say it and then point me in the direction of an online resource to back yourself up. I've seen interviews and videos of Mike Anderson (Rave Diet) and he's another example of someone who doesn't understand science.
@u7name ...If you only listen to information from 1 camp (vegan propaganda) then that's what you're going to perceive as correct. If you want to have an ounce of credibility, take the time to look into the full body of nutritional research. Also if you post quotes and attempt to use them as put downs, again without proof, you'll be blocked from posting on my channel for wasting my time. To learn how confused you are about dairy, watch this vid I designed for people like you: /watch?v=huk6RN-FyQc
Colostrum is for calves. Do you know which farm? Did you go to it? What do they do with the male calves? Hooking a cow up to a machine (I know breast pumps hurt), taking calves away, and killing older cows is not nice. For what? Most humans in the world do not consume dairy products past the age of weaning. We do not need it. Colostrum is a byproduct of the dairy industry. Dairy and meat industries are inefficient, exploitative, and cruel. I'll keep growing fruits and veggies in peace and love.
@mara3o I know the farms where I get fresh colostrum from and they are very ethical. I don't know the ones in the US where Daniel gets his from however Dr. Anthony Kleinsmith who runs the program that collects the colostrum from farms across several states has outlined his process in detail publicly several times. You can listen to an interview with him on Daniels site in the colostrum section (link in the info bar). They actually IMPROVE the life quality of the cows they work with and the...
@mara3o ...farmers have a lot of protocols they have to follow such as improving the nutrition of the cows, setting up "maternity wards" for the cows to ensure the best health and safety for the cows and calves which are expensive luxuries on conventional farms that overlook these things to cut costs. Keep growing veggies and fruit in peace and love by all means, but don't assume there aren't animals being raised in peace and love. The angry vegan head space is not a peaceful one anyways :)
Being a mother who breastfed my son; I think it is mean, inefficient, and unethical to artificially inseminate cows, take cholostrum and milk from calves , to take calves away from mother cows, to raise and kill calves for veal, to kill cows and used dairy cows for beef, to use animals for human "gain", to use an electric pump machine to pump cholostrum or milk from another mammal, and to give misleading information about a product for monetary gain. Cholostrum & milk are for babies, not adults
@mara3o No one takes colostrum and milk away from calves. 80% of calves that don't get colostrum die and the rest are very sick for the rest of their life. It's in the farmers best interest that the calves get their fill of colostrum as well as milk. We're not discussing veal farming here so I'm not sure why you brought that up. As for pump machines, they're much more sanitary than hand milking. Your arm-chair vegan perspective of cows suffering at the hands of humans is based on what you've...
@mara3o ...seen in videos of factory farming and I definitely agree that those are horrible practices. Go work on an organic farm that uses ethical practices in raising their animals and you'll see the animals are very happy. They get fed and taken care of in exchange for whatever commodity they provide. Until you can do that you have no view on whether or not these animals are suffering. The interaction between farmer and animal is (in the right scenario) one of symbiosis, and is not parasitic.
I do think overall health is directly related to PH balancing. The book The PH Miracle however seems to have some older commonly held beliefs in it. Example: they are suggesting refined oils are good for health. That is an old paradigm relating to diets like "The Mediterranean Diet". Even pure virgin olive oil is not a natural substance that is good for the body. It is 100% refined fat, even from an olive, does not promote internal health.
The most common misconception in the US today. Dairy, specifically milk does NOT build bones. In an attempt to digest the milk in a human, the body actually has to leech calcium and other minerals from the bones. It is hard to believe. We were all taught "milk is for bones" in public schools with materials donated by milk companies. In fact the more calcium you attempt to get from dairy, the weaker your bones become. Fact: studies directly relate osteoporosis and dairy as the cause.
@mikecazzx Those studies are done on conventionally raised dairy cows that are factory farmed, non-organic and hybridized. Take into account that the areas of the world where this information comes from eats the highest amount of junk food plus they live the most sedentary lives. Women in India who drink TONS of milk but who work very physical jobs for a living have incredibly strong bones because the single biggest factor for building strong bones is putting stress on them, minerals come 2nd.
The debate is not even about milk or meat. The fact is the most nutritional foods for HUMANS are WHOLE FRUITS and WHOLE VEGETABLES. Anything less than that is the reason we are FAT, DISEASED, CRIPPLED AND DYING. Your whole life fed the machine buying refined foods, drugs and products.
@mikecazzx That's simply not true. Humans have eaten a wide range of foods for millions of years. The majority of our diet has been foods OTHER than what you just mentioned for over 3.5 million years, this is not debated in anthropolgical circles, it is a fact. It is also a fact that we have grown shorter, lost muscle mass, lost bone density, had our brains shrink, have developed chronic disease and even began living shorter lives as a result of agriculture (which is where the sweet fruits...
@SecretsOfLongevity Grown shorter, lost muscle mass, bone density, had our brains shrink says to me we are evolving and not carrying things we no longer need. Last time I checked my "smaller" brain was capable of a hell of a lot more calculations than a caveman's. Go ahead, eat like a cavemen, get colon cancer, heart disease and stress your kidneys. Evolution will take care of Paleo's as it did before.
@mikecazzx Your response is based on a Flintstonian view of our ancestors and is utterly incorrect. Our ancestors lived in very egalitarian societies which functioned much more harmoniously than people in today's world. Violence was lower, they had to develop a wide range of skills and abilities to survive and simply did not suffer from "colon cancer, heart disease and stress [on their] kidneys". Like I mentioned, lifespan DROPPED after a high grain diet was introduced. Living to 80 was not...
@mikecazzx ...that uncommon amongst hunter gatherers. If you take that lifespan and combine it with acute disease prevention (having access to a hospital when you break a bone, get an infected wound etc) and much less dangerous living conditions with better shelter, you have a lifespan that reaches to the 100's. The grain based diet dropped lifespan into the mid 30's-40's and only NOW that we have advances in acute medical care can we delay this death, however old age is not as robust as it...
@mikecazzx ...was for our ancestors (on average). A "caveman" (a central European hunter gatherer) brought up in today's society (yet who maintained their diet) would excel in academic studies with a larger and more developed brain. Atrophy of any bodypart that has a use is not "letting go of what we don't need", that's a very ignorant statement.
Personally I don't eat like a hunter gatherer, nor do I recommend it, but our species IS designed to be an Omnivore, no questions there.
@SecretsOfLongevity Omnivore is fine, I will even allow that. The best source of water, vitamins, minerals and amino acids, for humans, comes from plants and fruits. Meat, dairly and grains all have serious defects and side effects and causes acidity instantly in the bloodstream and organs. My athletic performance and V02 max have increased dramatically as a vegan. No heavy meat digesting for 3 days and no dairy clogging my lungs and blood.
@mikecazzx You'll "allow that"? Who's asking for your permission? Raw plant foods have the benefits of those things you mentioned, although the best source of water is water. The best source of minerals by density is always animal products. What do you think happens when a cow eats mineral rich grass all day... The difference is that plants have a different array of minerals we don't get much of in animal foods (magnesium, silicon, boron etc), yet animal foods are higher in other minerals...
@SecretsOfLongevity The vast majority of minerals and proteins in animal products are lost in trying digest it. Address the real issue which cannot be disputed. Acidity in the blood is toxic and the body works very hard to balance it. Nearly all fruits and vegetables cause alkalinity in the blood. Nearly all animal products and grain cause acidity. There are many more negative effects from animal products and grains as well, but just the acid/alkaline balance issue outweighs everything.
@mikecazzx Please show some evidence as to how all these minerals are lost because that makes no biochemical sense whatsoever. I have already addressed the issue of acid alkaline balance. The body does not need JUST alkaline foods, that's ridiculous. MINERALS re what indicate if a food is alkaline or acidic and we need a whole range of minerals in the body, some acidic, some alkaline. If you're so hung up on the ph balance, read the Ph miracle where it is clearly shown that fruit causes acidity.
@SecretsOfLongevity As I said nearly all, not every fruit. Many that most would think are acid, have the opposite reaction in the body. As far as can see from a quick check of reviews regarding the many Ph miracle books seems to support what I have been saying. Vegan, water rich food, fruits and vegetables. If I find more compelling evidence to read it, I may allow that.
@SecretsOfLongevity Amazing. The PH Miracle is flawed and dated information. If you search online for "alkaline forming foods" nearly ALL fruits with maybe 4 exceptions are alkaline forming once ingested into the body. The book is dismissing nearly all fruits as acidic. An exterior analysis of fruits may indeed show acidity, but it is what happens inside the body that counts. This one search proved everything. Also search "acid forming" and you will get meats, grains, nuts, dairy, oils!
@mikecazzx I don't regard the Ph miracle as a good source of health information, but it is "the book on ph balance" if you're into that. There's so many different opinions and ideas about ph and food that what it comes down to is that none of this is based in any real science that is demonstrative of their claims. If what happens in the body is what counts, then you'd understand that dairy is alkaline as it builds the most alkaline parts of the body, bones! Simple web searches for...
@mikecazzx ..."acid forming" pulls up tons of rehashed info which again is not based on anything factual. What we do have is results such as the ones I've already discussed in the multiple posts I did on the anthropological evidence. You can't say a certain lifestyle is flat out unhealthy when tons of people are doing it and thriving (and have been for millions of years). Try to find an article on pubmed that say "acid forming foods should be completely elliminated from the diet", you won't.
@mikecazzx ...than plants TEND to have less of (calcium, phosphorus, iron, etc). As for vitamins it's the same deal, certain ones are more abundant in plants (a few you can only get in plants) and some are more abundant in animal foods (certain one's are not found in ANY plant foods such as vit. A, there are precursors in plants but 50% of men and 75% of women have a very decreased ability to convert enough of these precursors into fully formed vit. A, consider the recent headline about the...
@mikecazzx ...vegan baby that died in France and was both vit. A and B12 deficient). The ph of food is a very misunderstood problem in the health world. We need acidic and alkaline foods in our diet not just alkaline foods (fruits are acidic by the way according to that theory). We should always eat a balance of some or all acid foods (fruits, meat, grains, roots) and alkaline foods (vegetables, dairy, bone broth, mushrooms). That's great that you've had an increase in athletic ability as a...
@mikecazzx ...vegan, however what were you eating before? Junk food? Conventionally raised animal products? Have you ever been on grass fed meat for any length of time or grass fed, non-hybridized raw dairy and compared your results over the long term? Eliminating junk will always improve your performance and that;s great, but you can't compare what you ate to your current diet. My dad has a VO2 max of 63 (he's 52) and runs sub 3 hour marathons on a "healthy" diet but not the best omnivore diet.
@SecretsOfLongevity ... fruits have always been designed as our food, remember cleansing our intestines with fibres etc ? we are been mislead, I believe deliberately so that diseased, shorter lives etc ... plus all animals have been bred with chemicals, much the same as our plant food. But again, plant foods still come out ahead because it is alive !
@mikecazzx ...were developed that your community recommends for their primary source of fuel. Over processed food and junk food and ultra refined foods (and then drugs etc) are the cause of obesity, ill health and premature death. Processing a food such as grinding it up, dehydrating it, fermenting it, cooking it, marinating it, blending it, juicing it etc are all ways to make the inner contents of the tough plant cell wall available to our digestive tract that has adapted to these things.
Everything that vibrates is illusion, love is the only truth!
enesem77 4 days ago
Very well put
enesem77 4 days ago
i like the way this guy think. He is highly aware of reality tunnels. Zack have you read Prometheus Rising ;)
TheOuijaBird 1 week ago
@TheOuijaBird I haven't what is it?
SecretsOfLongevity 1 week ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Author - Robert Anton Wilson. Book - Prometheus Rising. It seems you are highly aware of reality tunnels . LOL. This book is right up your alley.
TheOuijaBird 1 week ago
@TheOuijaBird Ahhh interedsting, I've read the Illuminatus! Trilogy and loved it so I'll probably check it out someday.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 week ago
btw you talk so much but dont really say anything.. are you tripping in this video?
mushroomhill 2 months ago
@mushroomhill You don't hear what I'm saying because you don't choose to. That's fine but you won't be able to have a logical debate with me because that is something you're incapable of comprehending when you shut your mind off like you have.
SecretsOfLongevity 2 months ago 2
Definition by definition alone is limitation.
accessinfinitness 1 month ago
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kojin54321 3 days ago
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kojin54321 3 days ago
Sorry but Im taking advice from the person who is not trying to sell anything. Durrianriders ideas are as free as fruit is from god. Who you going to want to listen to? Stage-men selling crap so that they convince you is going to make you happy? Junk/shit/crap/waste/lies
mushroomhill 2 months ago
@mushroomhill Both Harley and I (and every other health teacher) gives free advice. All of us who do it professionally have ways of making money too (Harley sells $1,500 month long consults, I sell $87 1.5 hour consults, who's really ripping people off here). If something has been proven scientifically to effect a positive change in one's health there's no harm in selling it. No one is holding a gun to your head telling you you have to take it.
SecretsOfLongevity 2 months ago
@mushroomhill I'm going to believe someone who's actually gone to school and has experience working with human bodies other than just themselves.
PeaceUdo 1 month ago
What a shit storm this raw food thing is turning into. None of its going to matter if we can't stop these freaks and soon.
International Climate Court
mascar33 2 months ago
For the history of life on earth, life begets life. Vegone!
oikosecosnomikos 2 months ago
or lfraw are skinny because they poorly combined the aminoacid. There are so little guys who have succed on these because they do know how to mix fruits on a day to get all nutrients, or they just drink thous rice base protein powders like sunwarrior and others. Well do whathever you want, but you have to realize that most raw vegans and also meat eaters have their brains been influenced by parasites, that is why they fight constantly and see themself with muscle when they have not
irlumir 3 months ago
All raw vegan are not realizing this. And the ones who thing it do not work start eating meat LOL, because they do not realize that what they have are parasite. We humans are NOT DESIGN TO EAT RAW VEGETABLES AT ALL. Most raw vegetables contain a lot more of vitamin we need. There are a number of raw vegetables that are safe to eat, but if you eat just raw your chances to get parasites are extremly high, that is why all are so skinny, parasite eats most of their nutrients XD, and most frutarians
irlumir 3 months ago
@irlumir If they are in a first world country, how can they still get parasite?
PeaceUdo 1 month ago
Facts, like 99% of raw vegan have endless detox sympthons, that is why they are always catching new parasite. There are to ways of getting parasites, by eating meat or by eating raw vegetables that have not been aproperly clean. That is why they so jelously fight for promoting this, parasites get into your neuronal system. Get a good clean (lot of garlic with lemon, every day blend garlic with water and lemon) also drink teas that destroy parasites. Fruit that destroy parasite, bananas, apples.
irlumir 3 months ago
like i said to you, one thing is what you have read and another different thing is what you can expirience in real life. Stop been naive, raw food gave you parasite that is why you have gas, note legumes. Both my brain and my body have been working amazingly since put a good amount of legumes in my diet. I been veg lots of years and like i said i have relatives been veg (cook) for generations. His grandfather still makes bread and he is 96 years old. Facts, like 99% of raw vegan are skinny
irlumir 3 months ago
Harley is an idiot..... he takes b12 shots regularly, advocates vasectomies, has a fake titted girlfriend yet preaches about natural living. He talks about RAW FOOD HUCKSTERS trying to steal your money whilst charging 1000 dollars per consultation.....He's banned female members from his website degrading them in a disgusting fashion, the man has small penis complex, he's a fucking bullshitter.
redmeatheart 3 months ago
Ok $1000.00 consult,that would of saved me a lot more.Well worth it,and he turned me on to the China study,that has a lot more research than any thing I can find. David Wolfe would have you spend 2k in one outing.
Why would you buy any of Darians books when you said it yourself they are free.
Versus a Longgevity conf.to listen to the hokey pokey,the cacoa powder is sexually lining you up with the sun! lol
rykinetics22 4 months ago 2
@rykinetics22 You haven't the slightest clue what you're even talking about. The China Study is complete bogus, while cacao isn't anything that special no one is saying you have to eat anything like that. Certain superfoods have scientifically validated benefits and you can even eat them while on 811 without negative side effects. I've consistently put out the challenge for anyone to prove to me with scientific research how these things are harmful or at best do nothing for you. No one can.
SecretsOfLongevity 4 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity cacao is a stimulant like coffe, not to good but it will certanly not kill you LOL xD. Dude you shoul try a vegan diet wich have lentils and some cereal for protein. Legumes are the best anticancerigenuos food on earth and have almost all minerals the body need. I been bodybuilding with lentils and rice, fruits for vitamins like bananas, lemons. Raw veggies like carrot, garlic. I train 1 day a week whole body and have gain in 2 month 15 kilos lean muscle. Try it.
irlumir 3 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity gas issue with legumes only ocurs when you have something rotten on your body. After a couple of days the fiber on legumes will clean your intestines and you will no longer have gas. Lentils to me is the best legumes in combination with rice. I eat two raw cup of lentils (i soaked, throw water away, coocked with new water without salt or anithing for 25 minutes and then throw the water away.) In other pot i coocked rice, withe or brown it do not matter xD, also two cup.
irlumir 3 months ago
@irlumir Different people tolerate different foods to varying degrees. After 10 years as a vegetarian and then a vegan, multiple colonics, herbal cleanses, sprouting AND cooking beans and grains, they still gave me gas. They STILL contain antinutrients that bind to minerals and they still resulted in the decreased bone, muscle and brain density experienced by our ancestors when agriculture began. I cover all of these points with scientific references in my more recent videos.
SecretsOfLongevity 3 months ago
Durianrider ROCKS!!!
He never tries to sell anything,I am so glad I found him,before I spent all my money on David Wolfes B.S!!!
Finally someone willing to speak out and is not motivated by money.
Keep riding Durian!!
rykinetics22 4 months ago
@rykinetics22 Yeah he only sells $1000 consults and a whole bunch of ebooks which all say the same thing you can find out from his videos... Everyone needs to make money somehow. That in and of itself is not a bad thing.
SecretsOfLongevity 4 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity 1800$ consults ;)
cpilfold420 2 months ago
@cpilfold420 Oops, I guess he's raised the price!
SecretsOfLongevity 2 months ago
Good post. I personally have a feeling that this Harley guy is out to make a name for himself by discrediting those in the health scene most popular in an attempt to convert some of their followers to himself, all just in order to make a better living from being a raw vegan.
germanicelt 4 months ago 2
Who cares how the colostrum is collected, its not meant for human consumption. Durianrider does a great job calling out people like David Wolfe and Daniel Vitalis, they are in it for the money, not for the greater good of the people.
vault3420 5 months ago
@vault3420 It has a physiological effect and it is a beneficial one. If you can provide some scientific credibility to your belief that it does nothing for peoples health by all means please present it. You can post it here or as a comment or video response on my video about the science that proves colostrum has a myriad of health benefits:
/watch?v=D-H3iYnfl8E
SecretsOfLongevity 5 months ago
@vault3420 So the body like rejects the Colostrum if it is then not meant for it? I suppose then us human animals are not meant to ride bikes but wait, Durianrider does that doesn't he?
germanicelt 4 months ago
Hey, how does Durianriders blood tests compare to Daniel Vitalis'?
sillygoose544 6 months ago
@sillygoose544 Durianrider has posted his blood tests on youtube, I doubt Daniel Vitalis or David Wolfe would ever release that information. Just buy their products and you won't need blood tests!
vault3420 5 months ago
@vault3420 Do you understand how little conventional blood tests actually reveal about health?
Lakkhesis1976 4 months ago
has durianrider or any one else responded to the counter-argument that IGF-1 is a response to cancer conditions, rather than a causal factor?
networkedfreedom 6 months ago
@networkedfreedom Nope...
SecretsOfLongevity 6 months ago
I like to take what I can use from ALL posts, because I seriously believe that every so-called "guru" does have something positive to offer that I can use. If I don't agree with something, I simply don't employ it in my life. What I can say as a manager for a few Native American (real ones not self-proclaimed shamans) is that the marketing of overpriced crap is rampant. No one needs supplements if they eat right. Harley is a satirist, he's harmless & walks his talk. Lighten up everyone.
mythicstealth 6 months ago
@mythicstealth Native Americans traditionally consume diets rich in a number of diverse herbs, plants and animals. This is a naturally supplemented diet. Just because an herb comes in a container does not make it unhealthy. Fresh is best but there is a market for packaged materials, some are truly crap (synthetic supplements), but there's plenty of effective options. Harley would put down the Natives you've worked with just as quickly as anyone else eating meat. He meets the criteria of a bigot.
SecretsOfLongevity 6 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity right but Harley's diet is affordable to anyone and he doesnt selling fruit . Its the salesman who can't afford to be full disclosure .
NWforager 5 months ago 3
@NWforager Every speaker has their bias. Harley operates a site that is geared towards low fat raw veganism and sells products, offers (very expensive) consultations and asks for donations. He, just like any other public health figure is subject to be biased. As for people being able to afford his diet, that's great but you shouldn't arrange your lifestyle to suit your income, you find out what is healthy and then get the income to live the lifestyle you want.
SecretsOfLongevity 5 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity "you shouldn't arrange your lifestyle to suit your income,you find out what is healthy and then get the income to live the lifestyle you want"
That would be great !! So often the pursuit of the income is what leads to health issues. I'm subed to yours ,his and a slew of health(y) folks channels and ideas . I get what you mean about bias but I haven't seen many if any vids from Durianrider with product placement other than books available at the local library though.
NWforager 5 months ago 3
@NWforager Again that sort of mentality is one of poverty mind consciousness. If you don't want or can't afford something don't buy it. But that doesn't mean that their use is unsubstantiated. If anyone can prove that all supplements and all superfoods have 0 health effects or worse only negative health effects, I'd wouldn't stand behind any of them. But it's a scientific fact that many herbs and nutrients have benefits. Again if you're poor put your money to where it needs to go.
SecretsOfLongevity 5 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity fortunately cash doesnt equal health . I'm sure you'll agree. Love to see some vids on how to forage and make these supplements /superfoods that are for sale .
Not one to say these things have 0 merit . Many times the value of a thing is lost in the sales pitch . People get skeptical ,rightfully so . I'd be glad to test the claims of some samples of the products and write reviews/testimonials for the site.
NWforager 5 months ago 2
@NWforager I have covered this issue in a past video. Money most certainly does equal health. Not everyone with money chooses optimal health and a good lifestyle but also poor classes of people even more so don't choose healthy lifestyles. If you have money you have a wider choice of options that go much beyond just food: /watch?v=FZQlNsCjjTE
By the way I have a few vids on foraging and that's an amazingly good habit to get into. I'm no expert on it but I'm all for it.
SecretsOfLongevity 5 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity guess it depends about the money thing. got friends from poor countries who came here in awesome shape and start adopting our american health issues . So , maybe information and cash go hand in hand healthwise . Lots of countries see fat as a sign of wealth . i'm pretty poor as you stated ,but fitter than my rich bosses who can afford hi cost dr's and pills which i can't .
Thank you i will dig into your post =)
NWforager 5 months ago
@NWforager I totally hear you on that, plenty of developing countries people (sometimes) have great health because they don't eat heavily processed foods. But in a specific demographic such as Canada (which I refer to statistics from Can in that vid) the lifespan of the lowest income people compared to the highest has a bigger gap then comparing people who get cancer vs. those who don't. Of course, most health issues can be avoided even when you have no money.
SecretsOfLongevity 5 months ago
@NWforager I totally hear you on that, plenty of developing countries people (sometimes) have great health because they don't eat heavily processed foods. But in a specific demographic such as Canada (which I refer to statistics from Can in that vid) the lifespan of the lowest income people compared to the highest has a bigger gap then comparing people who get cancer vs. those who don't. Of course, most health issues can be avoided even when you have no money.
SecretsOfLongevity 5 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity "most health issues can be avoided even when you have no money."
the majority of species on earth would agree with you on that . =)
NWforager 5 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity So Native Americans use/used powdered, freeze-dried supplements?
DaveJales 5 months ago
Yes harvesting milk / colostrum from cows is stealing it... The cow did not consent to give it to you or consent to being impregnated. And you can't use the if we didn't use cows they would all die argument that is the stupidest, most highly regurgitated argument I hear. cows are intelligent beings not just a means to an end, it is morally wrong to exploit them.
tregglekid 7 months ago
@tregglekid oh my fucking god! If you give a cow some grass to eat, does he need to give you his consent? No! Consent is a human concept that you're applying to cows. If you're not causing her suffering, what's wrong with "stealing" her milk? If a cat comes to my door begging for food and shelter, and I give it food and shelter in exchange for companionship, am I exploiting it?
rabidrandy 7 months ago
@rabidrandy Confinement, bad conditions and slaughter are the problems, not some lofty ideal about "exploitation"
rabidrandy 7 months ago
woman who was struggling with DurianRider's recommendations. He couldn't take the competition or the questioning and blocked me.
LeppardPrintAnimal 7 months ago
To say taking milk/colostrum from a cow, even if its done kindly, is a triple-win symbiotic situation for everybody, sounds awkward even sarcastic to me.
If I take a being, lock it up for years (concerning the calf from the start) it will become nonviable for sure. Symbiose means interaction.
Stormbringe 7 months ago
So, shouldn't we all wait outside maternity wards and ask to suck the new mothers for a suck of their tits?
marcluc1988 8 months ago
@marcluc1988 Are you talking about drinking human milk/colostrum? Most humans will want that for teir baby as they don't produce an excess of colostrum like cows do. I'm sure if you were drawn to doing that you could find a willing soon to be mother somewhere. Whatever floats your boat ;)
SecretsOfLongevity 8 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity so your saying that you like sucking cows nippes for collostrum???
Jordonification 6 months ago
@Jordonification I have not said that anywhere in my last comment or anywhere on my channel. Do you get a kick out of using bad reasoning and logic to attempt to prove a point that you have no scientific understanding of?
SecretsOfLongevity 6 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity How is that bad reasoning and logic? Collostum comes from the mother cow between 42-78 hours (varies) following the delivery of a calf. No matter how you slice it your stealing the nutrition that is for the baby. So if you like drinking cows milk how would you not like sucking on cows nipples? Or does that aspect gross you out? Cut out the middle man and go get your own milk. I get my own food, so you should be able to steal some collostrum from a defenseless mother.
Jordonification 5 months ago
@Jordonification The bad reasoning and logic is drawing a conclusion when there has never been a suggestion of it, which is what you did. I pay a farmer to collect raw milk for me. If I had the time and resources to collect my own milk, I probably would drink it still warm and very fresh from the udder, but not on my hands and knees and with my mouth that's impractical.
Since you base your belief system on JUST narrow minded dogma, here's some other points to consider: /watch?v=huk6RN-FyQc
SecretsOfLongevity 5 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Your videos are impractical much the same as your collostrum and probably your magic mushrooms that you've been smoking off camera.
Jordonification 5 months ago 2
the only time I ever heard about durianrider is when I saw a video with him attacking david wolfe. Becoming famous for talking bad things about others is not wise at all. Who likes to hate ? Who likes to say "look, that person has man boobs" ? So, someone has a big nose and is selling chlorella ...So what ? Do we have to hate that person ? I guess some ppl just love to hate - I see some ppl already joined durianrider on his hate trip to nowhere. Good luck !
RawClorophile 8 months ago
@RawClorophile Durianriders is not about hate at all. I think he's great.
marcluc1988 8 months ago
@marcluc1988 So far from the videos I've seen of that punk, he's a complete and utter asshole.
niwdestan 7 months ago
I do not believe that humans, like other animals, require colostrum beyond suckling from their mother as an infant. If we did, it would be human colostrum, and you would line up at your mother's breast daily.
Your statement about a maternity ward suggested some type of shangri-la for cows happy to share their colostrum is ridiculous.
Vegan armchair logic? What about your logic? Suggesting these animals are only here for you and could not survive without you is arrogant, and just as dogmatic.
jtbnin 8 months ago
@jtbnin No one has ever claimed that colostrum from cows is necessary. It's something that can benefit us however, just search "bovine colostrum" on pubmed and try to find one negative study and send it to me :)
I never said it was a shangri-la for cows, that's YOUR interpretation of my words. I also never suggested cows are "happy" to share their colostrum. They almost certainly have no feeling on the matter either way. The problem with vegan arm chair dogma is that they personify all animals.
SecretsOfLongevity 8 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Pubmed...a governmental unbiased source? As a litmus test, I searched for Gerson Therapy. Allopathic medicine at it's best. While much of the information there may very well be quite accurate, I find it a suspect source for all sides of the argument. Bovine colostrum is meant for calves in my opinion.
Personifying animals is a problem for you and others who wish to exploit them for profit.
It's been nice visiting with you. Best of luck to you.
jtbnin 8 months ago
I was really listening until you said the makers of this colostrum product set up "maternity wards" for the collection of the product. You lost me right there. (Now if you show me a video of that including their cable tv and grasses from around the world buffet, I will apologize publicly to you). Just previous to that, you mentioned it was not stolen from the cows. Did the cows offer to provide it to their collectors in exchange for their posh lifestyles?
jtbnin 8 months ago
@jtbnin Investigate it yourself. Dr. Anthony Kleinsmith is the industry leader in colostrum research and product development. Why would you apologize to me publicly if I showed you a video of that, you haven't insulted me?
Cows are not a wild animal, they were bred from the Auroch (now extinct) and cannot survive in the wild. The vegan armchair idea of cows signing a waiver before "donating milk" or whatever it is they would like to see happen is silly and based in dogmatic views on health.
SecretsOfLongevity 8 months ago
You know, you could have just argued against durianrider's logic and presented your viewpoint, but no, you had to make it personal and insult him by calling him egotistical, insecure and mean-spirited. At least durianrider isn't a hypocrite and doesn't pretend not to be insulting.
rabidrandy 8 months ago 2
@rabidrandy That wasn't a personal attack, that was an observation based on his way of communicating. If you call someone an idiot for no reason, that's an insult. If you call someone something negative but they've behaved in a way that IS that way, you're commenting on that behavior. DR doesn't see himself as insulting but he is. When you post pictures of people and insinuate that they look ugly or some other INSULT, that is based just on appearance and has nothing to do with proving a point.
SecretsOfLongevity 8 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Talk about basing something on appearance, Durianrider SEEMS to be calling Wolfe "fat", but what he REALLY means is that he's ugly. I get it! What else is Durianrider doing but commenting on Wolfe's negative behavior (fat-stocking and huckstery) when he calls him a fat huckster? Don't get me wrong, DR is a dickhead, but at least he doesn't hide behind pop psycho babble. (If I missed a video of DR ACTUALLY calling Wolfe ugly, please disregard some of this message)
rabidrandy 6 months ago
@rabidrandy I wasn't talking about David, I was talking about Daniel and if you actually look at the link posted in the description he is INSINUATING that Daniel looks like a Neanderthal and that that is a bad thing. Whether he's saying Neanderthals are ugly (my observation and choice of words, I'm not saying it's correct) or if he meant to say they're un-evolved looking etc, doesn't matter, he implying a negative connotation. If you make rude and baseless accusations you will be blocked.
SecretsOfLongevity 6 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Well, the picture of the neanderthal is broken on that blog, and how do you know he's insinuating that he LOOKS like a Neanderthal, and not that he ACTS like a neanderthal, which is durianriders real gripe with him? And now you're saying that i'm making rude and baseless accusations? That's rude and baseless!
rabidrandy 5 months ago
not all have philosophies because they have labels. some have labels because they have philosophies! Ohh.. I know what ya mean though, sick and tired of those ism schism games die and go to heaven in jesus name. well well, u are an interesting channel, I like you, but what harley said did strike me. teaching longevity while still young! unless you're secretly 150 w/ good skin
I think he primarily "exposes" leaders/salesmen whom many follow. Not to justify but at least clarify :) peace
peacewalker7 9 months ago
@peacewalker7 Check out my video on whether someone young can talk about longevity or not: /watch?v=KKUvVXEycLc Talking about any subject you deal with facts. Harley hasn't won the tour de France yet he's trusted to speak about biking. A gerontologist doesn't have to be a senior citizen to study gerontology in University. A nutritionist doesn't have to be a farmer to understand and teach about nutrition...
I'm well aware what he's about and his "exposing" is just his opinion, not fact.
SecretsOfLongevity 9 months ago
well said secretsoflongevity!
starflower666 9 months ago
Exploiting animal suffering for profit is wrong no matter how you try to justify it. There's nothing respectable about it.
1imesub 9 months ago 16
Everybody has a different perspective to bring to the table, Durianrider to me is just being himself, yes he is bold and can be pretty straight up and even offensive, but hey, what kind of world would it be if we didnt have the wide range of different perspectives? Acting with Integrity???Well that is really is in the eye of the individual, everyone has a subjective point of view and what is integrity and truth for one may be the complete opposite to another. See my point.....
mixtld 9 months ago
@mixtld Integrity has a pretty clear definition. Attacking someone or something personally without scientific evidence is non-integrous.Of course I value the wide range of perspectives in the world. I respect DR just like I respect all religions. Just because these perspectives exist doesn't make it OK for them to persecute others or bomb them etc.
SecretsOfLongevity 9 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity I agree the definition is pretty clear cut, however there is still a subjective interpretation to any scenario, one can interpret things very different to another hence the many different oppinions on this comment bourd. You said "Just because these perspectives exist doesn't make it OK for them to persecute others or bomb them etc." If the perspective exists then it must be valid, why would creation create something that is not valid or is not worthy?
mixtld 9 months ago
@mixtld It's not that difficult to understand what I'm saying. Have a look at DR's blog and see what he has said. He feels it's his sense of humor and that's fine, but anyone that is not a follower of his can see quite plainly that it is internet bullying. Sounds silly and something a child would do, but that's exactly it, it's immature! You don't need to put anyone down to prove a point. Medical journals keep things academic and strictly to reason and logic. We don't need to be academics...
SecretsOfLongevity 9 months ago
@mixtld ...but at least strive for a similar level of respect to your peers in your field of study.As for "why would creation create something that is not valid or not worthy?", that is irrelevant. We're not talking about some grand philosophical idea here, just whether or not someone is being respectful in their critique or not.
SecretsOfLongevity 9 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Fair enough DR's blog is going to stir alot of people up, but again he has his unique element to bring to the table, if its bold and offensive and childish to some than so it will be, and to others its a breath of fresh air. Thats the beauty of life right there. As for the 'philisophical idea' i made, well its not really that philisophical....to me its pretty straight forward comment illistrating my point in minimal words.
mixtld 9 months ago
This is nonsense. IGF-1 DOES promote cancer growth.
ilkkavu 9 months ago
@ilkkavu Yet colostrum is successfully used in the treatment of cancer. Studies on isolated nutrients do not apply to whole food nutrition.
SecretsOfLongevity 9 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Colostrum doesn't cure cancer. IGF-1 is a hormone, not a nutrient. High protein diets also raise IGF-1 levels.
ilkkavu 9 months ago
@ilkkavu I've already addressed this in other comments on this video as well as other videos of mine.
At 23:25 in this video I address this subject.
/watch?v=x13qyMqZVvs
I link to these two pubmed abstracts as well, giving evidence of colostrum being used with cancer patients:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19410980
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18064645
I'm well aware that IGF-1 is a hormone, my point still stands that studies on isolated com[ounds, nutrients and/or hormones do not apply to whole foods.
SecretsOfLongevity 9 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Yes you are right. Studies on hormones do not apply to foods because hormones are not foods.
ilkkavu 9 months ago
@ilkkavu No evidence to bring to the table back up your points = dogmatic views based in imaginary beliefs.
SecretsOfLongevity 9 months ago
@ilkkavu Only in existing cancer states. Otherwise, how could it be measured. Dude, IGF-1 is a GROWTH FACTOR... It contributes to the growth of all types of cells.
Lakkhesis1976 4 months ago
Get out of your mom's garden
b0ondockz 9 months ago
@b0ondockz You make presumptions without any evidence. It's most definitely my garden, part of an apartment I rent. I don't live with my parents.
SecretsOfLongevity 9 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity u mad bro?
b0ondockz 9 months ago
@b0ondockz No, why would I be mad at that? You made a baseless comment, which is obviously tinged with sarcasm and considering I don't know you, probably not the friendly kind, and I responded quite to the point. I usually delete and block comments and people like that although I'm leaving it up for the hilarity of your ignorance.
SecretsOfLongevity 9 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity I love the way you talk bro, it's so radical. Where can I get this head dressing you wear? These garments and hand movements must make you very wise man. Tell me gypsy, where can we get a headband like this?
b0ondockz 9 months ago
@b0ondockz Canadian accents are radical and sound wise? Alright then. The bandana is a waterproof one I got at a outdoor sports attire store in Skagway Alaska before the starting the chilkoot trail. The shirt is from some sports store in a mall in Burlington Ontario.
SecretsOfLongevity 9 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Thank you gypsy.
b0ondockz 9 months ago
DurianRider claims to utilize a diet that produces ideal human health yet he's over 6' tall and weighs 135 lbs. I'm not seeing the proverbial Michelangelo's David when watching his vids. I'm seeing an emaciated guy who's sporting a poor skin complexion and less muscle mass than an 84 year old geriatric. He's also swinging around a level of fanaticism that would impress a Spanish Inquisitor, a tell-tale sign that a part of his brain is aware of the fact that he's straddling a volcano of bullshit.
ItsMeGandhi 10 months ago 3
@ItsMeGandhi I never knew he was over 6'. He's under the ideal BMI for his weight and height then...
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
@ItsMeGandhi AMEN.........preach brother preach
redmeatheart 3 months ago
I think its great that all of you are arguing.. the more you'll argue the more I learn because you all have to prove just a little more every time you get called out. Good luck to all of you and thank you.
Leeanne4debate 10 months ago
Why not drink human milk, too? Why not human colostrum? You would'nt ever right? I feel the same way about cows. This is not meant for YOU-it is meant for a baby. Baby human-baby cow.
theRoseofmyheart 10 months ago
@theRoseofmyheart Sure, I would drink human milk and colostrum if the person producing it was eating a healthy diet. Lactating women in Hunter Gatherer societies gave milk to the sickest people in their group because milk is very healing. The "milk is for baby cows" argument is so old, and is not based in science or logic. Please watch this video to learn about the health benefits of milk as you are sorely mistaken and confused on the subject due to watching vegan dogma: /watch?v=huk6RN-FyQc
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
So how is it collected without being stolen?! do they give concent? what are you going on about?
they are comfortable - doesnt mean its not stealing
they are not natural - doesnt mean its not stealing
The animal is providing a service - what does that even mean!
Im writing not to be rude, I respect your efforts to help us understand. I would love for you to really explain how drinking this is natural
wingchunming 10 months ago
@wingchunming I explain it in this video here: /watch?v=huk6RN-FyQc&feature=fvsr
This video is about colostrum, not dairy in general. If you have points you'd like me to respond to related to dairy, please post them on that video or better yet make a video response.
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
Durian rider is smart
achristensen33 10 months ago
Durianrider is a fucking nob. He is on EPO for sure cos NOBODY could ride a bike that fast/far on just 'fruit and water' like he claims.
Have you seen his running times this year? That sort of imporovement 100% highlights some HARDCORE pharmacutical abuse of the highest order! I want to see someone do a vid on 'durianriders epo stash' lol! He can give it but can he take it? Your busted DR! GAMES OVER BRO! ;)
Theclintonc 10 months ago
I wouldnt say Durianrider is insecure... being passionate about treating all living, feeling, emotion capeable beings as you would want to be treated doesnt seem in any way insecure. outraged, maybe, bc its kind of crazy that its okay in society to mistreat and abuse anything that isnt human... But i think hes trying to say that we dont need all the fancy potions and packaged foods. Raw fruits and veg have been shown to prevent & reverse cancer and disease. Simplicity.
Loverlykris10 10 months ago
@Loverlykris10 Everything you mentioned is fine for anyone to believe in, but that doesn't dismiss the way he goes about communicating those values. His approach does convey insecurity, otherwise he would have no use for insults, personal attacks and slander.
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Yes hes extreme but i dont think insecure. There is a lot of lies and rubbish out there. he is just motivated to help others to by dismissing them and to maybe help them see the truth. The way he presents info is his own way and the way he believes is correct
Loverlykris10 10 months ago
@Loverlykris10 There's those who deal with facts and science and those who would like to but don't understand it, they back on libelous slander. If he believes slander is "correct" then he's delusional and so are those that follow him.
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity lol okay well i guess everyone thinks they themselves are right. peace to you
Loverlykris10 10 months ago
@Loverlykris10 Since you closed your account before I got respond to your PM, I'll post my message here in the advent that you ever return under a different username:
I don't block people out of spite, only if they're being unreasonable.
You might perceive me as being biased or not having experience, but what are you basing this on? You haven't asked me how long I've been involved in teaching about health nor what experiences I have...
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
@Loverlykris10 ...Using the "argument" of "you're biased and teaching the wrong info" simply shows your own bias, which is not liking what someone says because it opposes your paradigm of understanding. I strive to be unbiased, and in a health world that is heavily swayed by dogma, idealism and pseudo religious beliefs, it can be difficult! If you're wanting to debate anything by all means point out what I'm so "biased about", and I'll be happy to respond should you keep it free of insults.
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
The reason why @mara3o brought up veal calves is because in the dairy strain of cows (as opposed to the beef strain), almost all of the males are killed young. These are veal calves; the veal industry is a byproduct of the dairy industry. There is therefore, blood on the hands of people who steal milk intended for calves. For dairy cows to be in a perpetual state of lactation, they are inseminated (raped) once a year for their entire adult lives, which is unethical & cruel. Drop dairy. Go vegan.
u7name 10 months ago
@u7name I hear your concerns about veal and actually there are farms that raise veal just for their meat, but yes factory farmed dairy has their males go to slaughter. If this is an issue for you you can always search out a farmer that is not doing this practice, they do exist. As for your personification of cows being "raped" to be impregnated, that's extremely inaccurate and ignorant vegan rhetoric. The reason heifers are inseminated by humans is that bulls can hurt them, better than the alt.
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Nothing could compel me to consume the milk of another species. It is unethical & deleterious to human health. Dairy is too concentrated in protein, which growing evidence suggests is carcinogenic. Further, it is my belief that to keep cows impregnated their entire adult lives (they are typically killed when their milk production drops) is cruel & unnecessary if people would respect cows enough to stop eating dairy. All nutrients in dairy can be found in vegan food. Go vegan!
u7name 10 months ago
@u7name I am editing a video on dairy I shot last night, it's long but addresses all your concerns and issues, including the extremely bad science found in The China Study you're alluding to. Protein is not carcinogenic, mutated proteins are (ie. A1 casein found only in Holstein cows which was used in the China Study). Show me a single plant source of vit A, cholesterol and D3 then I'll believe veganism is sustainable to people's health long term. BTW plants only contain vit. A precursors.
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity. Your "SecretsOfLongevity" user name is false if you are promoting dairy. With all due respect, you are misinformed. Please search the letter from Robert M. Kradjian, MD to his patients about the dangers of dairy products and read it. Then, please order and watch the DVDs "Eating" and "Healing Cancer from the Inside Out" from RaveDiet.com. As Malcolm X said, "If you know, teach; if you don't learn. While I believe you mean well, you just aren't ready yet to teach. Go vegan!
u7name 10 months ago
@u7name Simply stating I am wrong because I need to read "x,y and z" is not how you back up an argument. I am very familiar with plenty of nutritional information all across the board, so don't for a second try to make the point that I am misinformed. If you have knowledge on something show it by explaining why you think you are right and I am wrong, not just posting a bunch of stuff you think I should go read and watch (without even posting links!). Post a video response if you have to...
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity There is a tremendous amount of information that you are missing. Watching two 90 minute videos and reading one letter from an MD to his patients would be necessary for you to be filled in on the info that you're missing. As for your claim about my not posting links, YouTube doesn't allow us to post full links so I posted one partial link: RaveDiet.com and the other I tested if you search it comes up very easily. Dr. Robert M. Kradjian's letter is on NotMilk.com. Go vegan!
u7name 10 months ago
@u7name You have to separate the dots and slashes with brackets. I found the letter and looked through it. It is rehashed old information that again are promoted as vegan propaganda. Vegans are notorious for overlooking specifics such as the China Study using the counties eating meat as proof that meat is bad for you and not taking into account that those were also the most industrialized counties where workers smoked, didn't work outdoors, lived in polluted cities and the meat they were...
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Thanks for tip on work-around.
u7name 10 months ago
@u7name ...eating was from McDonalds. (much more on this subject can be read at rawfoodsos (.) com) Other sites and books focus on factory farmed meat and dairy and make blanket statements about these foods without looking at the difference between it and properly and healthfully raised forms of it (as I discuss in my video which I already posted and expect you to take the time to watch if you're serious about responding to my points). Again you've posted bunch of references without giving...
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
@u7name ...any many points 1st. In a debate people reference something to support a stance, not to be the stance in and of itself. It just demonstrates your lack of understanding on the topic! As for the DVD, you don't use references people have to go buy. If you have something to say, say it and then point me in the direction of an online resource to back yourself up. I've seen interviews and videos of Mike Anderson (Rave Diet) and he's another example of someone who doesn't understand science.
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
@u7name ...If you only listen to information from 1 camp (vegan propaganda) then that's what you're going to perceive as correct. If you want to have an ounce of credibility, take the time to look into the full body of nutritional research. Also if you post quotes and attempt to use them as put downs, again without proof, you'll be blocked from posting on my channel for wasting my time. To learn how confused you are about dairy, watch this vid I designed for people like you: /watch?v=huk6RN-FyQc
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
I feel for the cows being exploited and people being misled.
mara3o 11 months ago
Colostrum is for calves. Do you know which farm? Did you go to it? What do they do with the male calves? Hooking a cow up to a machine (I know breast pumps hurt), taking calves away, and killing older cows is not nice. For what? Most humans in the world do not consume dairy products past the age of weaning. We do not need it. Colostrum is a byproduct of the dairy industry. Dairy and meat industries are inefficient, exploitative, and cruel. I'll keep growing fruits and veggies in peace and love.
mara3o 11 months ago
@mara3o I know the farms where I get fresh colostrum from and they are very ethical. I don't know the ones in the US where Daniel gets his from however Dr. Anthony Kleinsmith who runs the program that collects the colostrum from farms across several states has outlined his process in detail publicly several times. You can listen to an interview with him on Daniels site in the colostrum section (link in the info bar). They actually IMPROVE the life quality of the cows they work with and the...
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@mara3o ...farmers have a lot of protocols they have to follow such as improving the nutrition of the cows, setting up "maternity wards" for the cows to ensure the best health and safety for the cows and calves which are expensive luxuries on conventional farms that overlook these things to cut costs. Keep growing veggies and fruit in peace and love by all means, but don't assume there aren't animals being raised in peace and love. The angry vegan head space is not a peaceful one anyways :)
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
Being a mother who breastfed my son; I think it is mean, inefficient, and unethical to artificially inseminate cows, take cholostrum and milk from calves , to take calves away from mother cows, to raise and kill calves for veal, to kill cows and used dairy cows for beef, to use animals for human "gain", to use an electric pump machine to pump cholostrum or milk from another mammal, and to give misleading information about a product for monetary gain. Cholostrum & milk are for babies, not adults
mara3o 11 months ago
@mara3o No one takes colostrum and milk away from calves. 80% of calves that don't get colostrum die and the rest are very sick for the rest of their life. It's in the farmers best interest that the calves get their fill of colostrum as well as milk. We're not discussing veal farming here so I'm not sure why you brought that up. As for pump machines, they're much more sanitary than hand milking. Your arm-chair vegan perspective of cows suffering at the hands of humans is based on what you've...
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@mara3o ...seen in videos of factory farming and I definitely agree that those are horrible practices. Go work on an organic farm that uses ethical practices in raising their animals and you'll see the animals are very happy. They get fed and taken care of in exchange for whatever commodity they provide. Until you can do that you have no view on whether or not these animals are suffering. The interaction between farmer and animal is (in the right scenario) one of symbiosis, and is not parasitic.
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
I do think overall health is directly related to PH balancing. The book The PH Miracle however seems to have some older commonly held beliefs in it. Example: they are suggesting refined oils are good for health. That is an old paradigm relating to diets like "The Mediterranean Diet". Even pure virgin olive oil is not a natural substance that is good for the body. It is 100% refined fat, even from an olive, does not promote internal health.
mikecazzx 11 months ago
The most common misconception in the US today. Dairy, specifically milk does NOT build bones. In an attempt to digest the milk in a human, the body actually has to leech calcium and other minerals from the bones. It is hard to believe. We were all taught "milk is for bones" in public schools with materials donated by milk companies. In fact the more calcium you attempt to get from dairy, the weaker your bones become. Fact: studies directly relate osteoporosis and dairy as the cause.
mikecazzx 11 months ago
@mikecazzx Those studies are done on conventionally raised dairy cows that are factory farmed, non-organic and hybridized. Take into account that the areas of the world where this information comes from eats the highest amount of junk food plus they live the most sedentary lives. Women in India who drink TONS of milk but who work very physical jobs for a living have incredibly strong bones because the single biggest factor for building strong bones is putting stress on them, minerals come 2nd.
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
The debate is not even about milk or meat. The fact is the most nutritional foods for HUMANS are WHOLE FRUITS and WHOLE VEGETABLES. Anything less than that is the reason we are FAT, DISEASED, CRIPPLED AND DYING. Your whole life fed the machine buying refined foods, drugs and products.
mikecazzx 11 months ago
@mikecazzx That's simply not true. Humans have eaten a wide range of foods for millions of years. The majority of our diet has been foods OTHER than what you just mentioned for over 3.5 million years, this is not debated in anthropolgical circles, it is a fact. It is also a fact that we have grown shorter, lost muscle mass, lost bone density, had our brains shrink, have developed chronic disease and even began living shorter lives as a result of agriculture (which is where the sweet fruits...
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Grown shorter, lost muscle mass, bone density, had our brains shrink says to me we are evolving and not carrying things we no longer need. Last time I checked my "smaller" brain was capable of a hell of a lot more calculations than a caveman's. Go ahead, eat like a cavemen, get colon cancer, heart disease and stress your kidneys. Evolution will take care of Paleo's as it did before.
mikecazzx 11 months ago
@mikecazzx Your response is based on a Flintstonian view of our ancestors and is utterly incorrect. Our ancestors lived in very egalitarian societies which functioned much more harmoniously than people in today's world. Violence was lower, they had to develop a wide range of skills and abilities to survive and simply did not suffer from "colon cancer, heart disease and stress [on their] kidneys". Like I mentioned, lifespan DROPPED after a high grain diet was introduced. Living to 80 was not...
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@mikecazzx ...that uncommon amongst hunter gatherers. If you take that lifespan and combine it with acute disease prevention (having access to a hospital when you break a bone, get an infected wound etc) and much less dangerous living conditions with better shelter, you have a lifespan that reaches to the 100's. The grain based diet dropped lifespan into the mid 30's-40's and only NOW that we have advances in acute medical care can we delay this death, however old age is not as robust as it...
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@mikecazzx ...was for our ancestors (on average). A "caveman" (a central European hunter gatherer) brought up in today's society (yet who maintained their diet) would excel in academic studies with a larger and more developed brain. Atrophy of any bodypart that has a use is not "letting go of what we don't need", that's a very ignorant statement.
Personally I don't eat like a hunter gatherer, nor do I recommend it, but our species IS designed to be an Omnivore, no questions there.
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Omnivore is fine, I will even allow that. The best source of water, vitamins, minerals and amino acids, for humans, comes from plants and fruits. Meat, dairly and grains all have serious defects and side effects and causes acidity instantly in the bloodstream and organs. My athletic performance and V02 max have increased dramatically as a vegan. No heavy meat digesting for 3 days and no dairy clogging my lungs and blood.
mikecazzx 11 months ago
@mikecazzx You'll "allow that"? Who's asking for your permission? Raw plant foods have the benefits of those things you mentioned, although the best source of water is water. The best source of minerals by density is always animal products. What do you think happens when a cow eats mineral rich grass all day... The difference is that plants have a different array of minerals we don't get much of in animal foods (magnesium, silicon, boron etc), yet animal foods are higher in other minerals...
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity The vast majority of minerals and proteins in animal products are lost in trying digest it. Address the real issue which cannot be disputed. Acidity in the blood is toxic and the body works very hard to balance it. Nearly all fruits and vegetables cause alkalinity in the blood. Nearly all animal products and grain cause acidity. There are many more negative effects from animal products and grains as well, but just the acid/alkaline balance issue outweighs everything.
mikecazzx 11 months ago
@mikecazzx Please show some evidence as to how all these minerals are lost because that makes no biochemical sense whatsoever. I have already addressed the issue of acid alkaline balance. The body does not need JUST alkaline foods, that's ridiculous. MINERALS re what indicate if a food is alkaline or acidic and we need a whole range of minerals in the body, some acidic, some alkaline. If you're so hung up on the ph balance, read the Ph miracle where it is clearly shown that fruit causes acidity.
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity As I said nearly all, not every fruit. Many that most would think are acid, have the opposite reaction in the body. As far as can see from a quick check of reviews regarding the many Ph miracle books seems to support what I have been saying. Vegan, water rich food, fruits and vegetables. If I find more compelling evidence to read it, I may allow that.
mikecazzx 11 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Amazing. The PH Miracle is flawed and dated information. If you search online for "alkaline forming foods" nearly ALL fruits with maybe 4 exceptions are alkaline forming once ingested into the body. The book is dismissing nearly all fruits as acidic. An exterior analysis of fruits may indeed show acidity, but it is what happens inside the body that counts. This one search proved everything. Also search "acid forming" and you will get meats, grains, nuts, dairy, oils!
mikecazzx 11 months ago
@mikecazzx I don't regard the Ph miracle as a good source of health information, but it is "the book on ph balance" if you're into that. There's so many different opinions and ideas about ph and food that what it comes down to is that none of this is based in any real science that is demonstrative of their claims. If what happens in the body is what counts, then you'd understand that dairy is alkaline as it builds the most alkaline parts of the body, bones! Simple web searches for...
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@mikecazzx ..."acid forming" pulls up tons of rehashed info which again is not based on anything factual. What we do have is results such as the ones I've already discussed in the multiple posts I did on the anthropological evidence. You can't say a certain lifestyle is flat out unhealthy when tons of people are doing it and thriving (and have been for millions of years). Try to find an article on pubmed that say "acid forming foods should be completely elliminated from the diet", you won't.
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@mikecazzx ...than plants TEND to have less of (calcium, phosphorus, iron, etc). As for vitamins it's the same deal, certain ones are more abundant in plants (a few you can only get in plants) and some are more abundant in animal foods (certain one's are not found in ANY plant foods such as vit. A, there are precursors in plants but 50% of men and 75% of women have a very decreased ability to convert enough of these precursors into fully formed vit. A, consider the recent headline about the...
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@mikecazzx ...vegan baby that died in France and was both vit. A and B12 deficient). The ph of food is a very misunderstood problem in the health world. We need acidic and alkaline foods in our diet not just alkaline foods (fruits are acidic by the way according to that theory). We should always eat a balance of some or all acid foods (fruits, meat, grains, roots) and alkaline foods (vegetables, dairy, bone broth, mushrooms). That's great that you've had an increase in athletic ability as a...
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@mikecazzx ...vegan, however what were you eating before? Junk food? Conventionally raised animal products? Have you ever been on grass fed meat for any length of time or grass fed, non-hybridized raw dairy and compared your results over the long term? Eliminating junk will always improve your performance and that;s great, but you can't compare what you ate to your current diet. My dad has a VO2 max of 63 (he's 52) and runs sub 3 hour marathons on a "healthy" diet but not the best omnivore diet.
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity ... fruits have always been designed as our food, remember cleansing our intestines with fibres etc ? we are been mislead, I believe deliberately so that diseased, shorter lives etc ... plus all animals have been bred with chemicals, much the same as our plant food. But again, plant foods still come out ahead because it is alive !
2012forlove 11 months ago
@mikecazzx ...were developed that your community recommends for their primary source of fuel. Over processed food and junk food and ultra refined foods (and then drugs etc) are the cause of obesity, ill health and premature death. Processing a food such as grinding it up, dehydrating it, fermenting it, cooking it, marinating it, blending it, juicing it etc are all ways to make the inner contents of the tough plant cell wall available to our digestive tract that has adapted to these things.