I’ve seen people argue against socialized medicine while covered by gov socialized medicine after retiring from the armed forces possibly even for a disability (which would make them eligible for other socialized government programs which they are probably taking advantage of). I know one personally who argues against socialism while living in public housing and on SS, Medicaid etc. Go figure :)
Keep your government hands off my Social Security seems to be the battle cry of the stupid:o)
The USA doesn't need government-provided insurance, it needs an NHS like we have over in Britain. The only thing that is putting them in the way are a few right-wing, ignorant republicans who are too stuck up about their apparently wonderful constitution to give it a go
"Socialized medicine" is NOT a magical mantra that will solve all your problems. When no one is directly responsible for the cost of the goods and services they consume, they have no incentive to make good choices and every incentive to consume as much of those goods and services as possible -- or at least to the extent that the army of bureaucrats running the system will allow them. You think the overhead in the private healthcare sector is bad, wait 'til it becomes a government program.
@LambdaKore You are right about one thing "Socialized medicine" is NOT a magical mantra that will solve all your problems." Obviously it will not anymore than the private system/ socialist system the US users. Heath care could use the entire resources of the US and still not perfect.What you should be trying to achieve is a secure cost effective medical system for all while for those with the means and choice should they so choose pay top dollars for top service.
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You honestly believe that the government would manage our healthcare system and dollars better than individuals participating in the free market? That's either baseless idealism or despicable stupidity on your part. The government already has too much power over your life, and you want to give them even more? And not just over your own life -- where the cost of failure could be limited to affect just yourself -- but also over the lives of hundreds of millions of other people? Unbelievable...
@LambdaKore It's neither "baseless idealism or despicable stupidity". Based on the fact that the US is rated 37th in heath care yes paying for is costs about twice that of another country that users a UHC system would seem to be based on "baseless idealism or despicable stupidity". The fact that in a lot of these countries healthcare systems is not government controlled simply to a greater or lesser degree financed by all citizens for the benefit of all citizens including the rich.
@davijeph So if we're so far down the list, why is the U.S. still the destination of choice for world leaders to come to for THEIR medical treatment? For example, wasn't it just last year where one of Canada's ministers came here for heart surgery, rather than enjoy Canada's state-provided services? Again, dude -- if you want to surrender control of your OWN life to the Feds, you go for it, but keep your fucking hands off everyone else's life.
@LambdaKore World leaders have the money to pay for your top-end medical care. America does have excellent top end medicine but that is not what the bulk of any nations population is in need of most of the time. Had an heart attack? Can you pay for the long term medical care and prescriptions needed afterwards without going bankrupt? Health care is about ALL citizens having access to 100% treatments 100%of the time regardless of ability to pay. US 37th France No 1
@davijeph There are some things -- like the police, the courts, and the military -- for which we all pay and for which we all receive services or benefits. These are necessary evils, for which there are constitutional provisions, and the concept was not meant to be expanded into the realm of personal consumer choices. And healthcare is most certainly that.
@LambdaKore Consumer choice is great but choice is only a reality for those who have the money. I have not mentioned the profit motive but since you mention it why do you think your system costs so much yet gives so little to so many? You have a vast army of bureaucrats working in you private insurance companies none of which supply you with so much as an Aspirin. The wealthy will always be able to afford "the best" the problem with the US systems to many can afford nothing or very little.
@LambdaKore With an estimated 45 million uninsured Americans, some 500,000 trekked overseas last year for medical treatment, according to the National Coalition on Health Care". "NEWS FROM CAMBRIDGE HEALTH ALLIANCE. June 4, 2009. Over 60 Percent of All US Bankruptcies Linked to Medical Problems. New research finds most victims are middle-class and have health insurance". If a system is proven to supply overall a higher rated cheaper healthcare than.
@davijeph Yes -- it's called "medical tourism". There ARE people willing to travel to other countries, willing to pay whatever it takes, and willing to take the risk for drugs and treatments not available here, because those goods and services have not been approved by the FDA. Also, hospitals are not free to compete, but must charge what the government tells them to, at rates the government sets. That's the GOVERNMENT limiting choice, not the free market.
@LambdaKore Nobody is saying if you have the money and choose to spend it on private medicine you cannot do so. UHC’s ensure no citizen goes without health cover this must be good for the heath of your population and even ensures that the rich will never be ruined when highly expensive and long term heath cost hit your family. To use your constitution as an excuse for not supplying it to all your citizens means there is something wrong with your constitution or theirs something wrong with you.
@davijeph The main thrust of your argument is that giving the government control of the healthcare industry will remove the profit motive (which you seem to regard as evil or unjust, despite the goods and services it makes available to you), which you think means more dollars devoted to actual healthcare services. That's a false assumption. The government is notorious for failing to stick to a budget, and for robbing one program to pay for another -- this would be no exception.
@davijeph As it is right now (for the most part), you make the choices for your health care, and you pay the cost, whether in the plan you use, the lifestyle you live, and the services you use -- and that's how it should be. Why are you so eager to have a bearueacrat tell you what plan you can have, what services you'll get, and when you'll get them? Think it's bad now? Just wait.
@davijeph "World leaders have the money to pay for your top-end medical care." So in other words, do as they say, but not as they do, right? In the real world, we call that being a hypocrite. If the system is so good it needs to be imposed on the masses by force of law, surely it ought to be good enough for the people who write and enforce the laws, shouldn't it? That should have been your first flag that socialized medicine was a boon-doggle.
@davijeph One more thing: it's a false argument (i.e., a "misrepresentation", or what I like to call a "lie") to use the word "choice" when the appropriate word is "force". In your scenario, you claim that we would "choose" to have the government manage the plan for us, when in fact we would be FORCED by law -- say, ObamaCare -- to participate. Remember his promise that we could keep our plans and our doctors? Doesn't seem to holding up too well at the moment.
@davijeph "Health care is about ALL citizens having access to 100% treatments 100%of the time regardless of ability to pay" Says who? You? And who pays for it? When you pay your own bills, I don't have the right to complain about the choices you make or how you spend your own money. When I'm forced by law to pay your bills, you can bet I'll let you spend as little money as possible -- and the government will be no exception. Ever heard of squeezing blood from a stone?
@LambdaKore You seem like many Libertarians to have no sense of the wider community . Saying "you are happy to give to the charity of your choice" why should I be forced to give to help everyone"? The answer is simple you are a member of a society that society has basic HUMAN standards of right or wrong. You are responsible for your neighbour and your neighbour is responsible for you not because some scrap of paper tells you what you can or cannot do but because your shared humanity demands it.
@davijeph HA HA HA HA! What an overly-developed sense of responsibility. Dude, if you want to be your brother's keeper, do it with your own money. You're free to ask others to chip in, but trying to compel them in order to prove your moral superiority is chicken-shit. You don't prove how compassionate and caring you are by using the government's guns to force others to do as you want them to do -- that's called being a statist thug, and most people will resent that very much.
@davijeph Actually, it reveals a desire to have your own lifestyle subsidized at others expense, couched in a a language of brotherhood -- how original. Let's force EVERYONE to contribute -- under threat of law -- so that YOU can enjoy goods and services you would otherwise have to pay for yourself, and all at subsidized rates. There's nothing noble about invoking the government to commit fraud and theft on your behalf -- even a mugger has the balls to commit his crimes himself.
@LambdaKore My life style as never been subsided by the tax payer. No matter how you chose to belittle "government" the US system of healthcare is the most expensive in the world but is rated a lowly 37th. If a "free market" means a medical/welfare system without tax based subsidies how would those with no or low income get welfare/medical help (don't tell me charity your welfare bill alone is $953 billion)? If UHC's are bad ideas why does every advanced liberal democratic nation use them?
@davijeph And of course, you've chosen to invoke the classic liberal argument that anyone who disagrees with you does so because they're not smart enough to understand the issues, or they're morally inferior to you, or -- should those charges fail to stick -- because they're racist or sexist or whatever. It never occurs to you that they disagree with you and oppose your ideas BECAUSE THEY"RE BAD IDEAS. They involve use of force, the theft of property, and the reduction of choice.
@davijeph And assuming that your concern for the few who do suffer catastrophic medical crisises or are chronically uninsured IS genuine, then why not create a safety net to cover those few unfortunates that DOESN'T involve screwing things up for EVERYONE? Just because ONE guy can't or won't take care of himself DOESN'T mean you hand EVERYONE in town over to the control of an army of indifferent bureaucratic thugs. That just brings everyone down to a common level of misery -- not good.
Well you Ignorant Britt Twit, We the Free People of the USA Kicked your Ignorant Britt Asses out of here twice so we wouldn't have to do what you wanted us to do!!!!!
So you can keep your Shitty Socialism and We the Free People of the USA will keep Our Freedom Ass Hole!!!!!!
The only reason Bush Jnr added $4,000,000,000 to the US's national debt (not to mention 110,000 dead) was because he wanted to give his dad the present of Saddam's head on a plate. The reason why Pres' Obama HAD TO increase that debt was if he had not the entire US banking and finance system would have collapsed and with it vast swaths of US business (not to mention the rest of the world). Obviously some dumb nuts in the US would rather have Hoovervilles than a sound banking system.
Oh Looky an Ignorant Britt Twit is trying to Bullshit America!!!!!
Too bad for you, you Ignorant Britt Twit, but all of us here in America know the Truth and can see that you are just Spewing your Socialist Censored Bullshit Lies!!!!!
You can certainly tell the Fox News Glenn Beck viewers. It's very entertaining reading their posts. The right wing propaganda mission has been an incredible success.
Excellent video by the way. Just what I need for my right wing friends with Fox induced brain freeze.
Yep Fox News is the #1 News Station all across America, We the People are tired of your Socialist Censored Liberal Lying News! So we all watched Mr Beck show us all the Truth backed by Fact! Something that you will never see in the Lamestream Liberal Lying Media!!!!
Yep the Lying Marxist Dictator said that he would Create Jobs, so Osamba sent our Tax Dollars & our Jobs to South America & his Commie Buddy George Soros!!!!!
Just to let every one know. I am an American and no we are not all like the crazy Obamasucks2 guy. Most of us want socialized healthcare and realize it's merits. It may not be perfect but no system is. that being said there are more pros to it than cons, and one day we will have it here in the USA. And on that day even the looney right wingers can have healthcare also because "WE THE PEOPLE" do accept them and their right to free speach.
Yep you are an Ignorant Brain Washed Libtard, and We the People are not all as Stupid and Ignorant like you Ass Hole!!!!
Yep the FACT is that 70% of Americans said NO to Osambas Socialist Health Care you Lying Libtard Ass Hole!!!!!
And We the People don't want a Lying Marxist Dictator, that is why We the People will throw Insane Hussein Osamba out on his Lying Marxist Black Ass you Lying Libtard Ass Hole!!!!!
@Osambasucks2 Well according to a cbs poll "The AP poll, conducted May 5-9, shows that 54 percent of Americans approve of Mr. Obama's handling of health care, while 46 percent disapprove." But aside from that issue i still don't see why you name call every one who you dissagree with. And the comment about throwing him out on his "Black Ass" actually makes your argument more puerile and archaic. If you want to have a civil discores thats fine but not when your so contemptible.
Well according to the Fox Poll 70% (Jan 5-12) of Americans do not want Osambas Shitty Socialist Health Care, and Fox News is the #1 News Station all across America!!! And I see that you have OLD NEWS!!!!
So you can Believe in what your Socialist Censored Liberal Lying News is telling you, and the Rest of America will Believe in the Truth!!!!!
And My Comment was throw Insane Hussein Osamba out on his LYING MARXIST BLACK ASS you Ignorant Ass Hole!!!!!
IF you actually took away all the verbal diarrhoea and childish language from what Osambasucks2 says he does not actually say anything. Theirs nothing there, no discussion, no ideas, no intelligence just mindless racial abuse and schoolboy insults.
If you had to buy fire insurance and police services, your taxes would be much lower. Plus, the service would be competitive with other businesses, and it would therefore be a much better service.
@DjZephyThe problem with a “free market” while we can choose and tailor our needs to our income when thinking of buying a car, washing m/c etc we all require 100% Police, fire and healthcare services giving almost unlimited treatment costs over a lifetime for ourselves and our families. The US system shows not just the poor but even the averagely wealthy could never afford to pay the premiums required. All but the very wealthy need UHC’s to back up the cost of healthcare.
IF you actually took away all the verbal diarrhoea and childish language from what Osambasucks2 says he does not actually say anything. Theirs nothing there, no discussion, no ideas, no intelligence just mindless racial abuse and schoolboy insults.
Wrong Moron, I just told Osamba, what would he call himself after Osamba had called Bush Irresponsible for adding 4 Trillion Dollars to the National debt! Now that Osamba has add 5 Trillion Dollars to the National; Debt in just 3 Years!!!!!
@Osambasucks2 You are perhaps one of the most uneducated and irrational people I have talked to. Did you know that 65% of the people whose homes were foreclosed by the bank were because they could not pay their medical bills? Are you going to call those people morons and tell them to get a job? What about people who can't pay $50,000 for a surgery or a procedure because they have a family to take care of and are below the poverty line? Ever think about them for once?
Did you know that you are a Moron, We the People of the USA and that is 70% of the People, DO NOT WANT INSANE HUSSEIN OSAMBS SHITTY SOCIALIST HEALTH CARE MORON!!!!
@Osambasucks2 If you call Obama socialist for wanting a socialist healthcare, do you ever consider the fact that the government runs a lot of things? Police and firemen are paid by the GOVERNMENT and are SOCIALIST services. 2 of the 3 services from dialing 911 are government-run, except healthcare, which should be government-run, because the free market has destroyed the healthcare system.
@Osambasucks2 Bush is responsible for being in Iraq for 8 years without a good purpose. Weapons of mass destruction? What happened to them? No blood for oil. Obama hasn't plunged us into any wars lately. He's not the best, but he does not deserve to be torn apart by moronic conservative propaganda that you so kindly like to spread like sickness.
Oh and here is a Good Fact for you Moron, Insane Hussein Osamba said that Bad Mr Bush was Irresponsible for adding 4 Trillion Dollars to the national Debt in his 8yr term!
But yet the Lying Marxist Dictator has already added 5 Trillion Dollars to the national; Debt in just 3 Fucking Years!
So now what do you Call Insane Hussein Osamba or what would he call himself for doing that??????
Government involvement in health care = corruption, cronyism, inefficiency, waste, no accountability, and no choices for the treatment you would like.
And you don´t hing Police and firedepartment doesen´t work?
No choices? We give what peopels need,not what they have in money.
I had Brain surgery for epilepsy when I was 3 year, and I live, AND THAT WAS GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE so don´t talk shit.
The average swed lives o 76 years, and the Americans to only 73, that tells everything, More newborn kids dies in america than on cuba, still america lays more money on health care than cuba, private healthcare sucks.
@Siegfried881 Quit putting words in my mouth. I'm just pointing out that government health care, as a whole, doesn't run well and invites problems away from the operating table. And the average citizen doesn't realize how much it actually costs. As a Canadian, I am just as entitled to speak about this as you, a Swede. The American system is filled with corruption BECAUSE of their crony-capitalism. They haven't had a free market in health care for decades.
You know that very many countries in the world have universal health care, and it works, why are you so afraid? Because poor peopels will get help? You hate poor peopels?
Learn o argue instead, now you just look like a spoiled kid.
It´s probobly the american television that made you believe it was so bad.
Look on Michael Moores docomentary "Sicko"
Medicine on Cuba costs 10 time less than in america, Thats says everything about egoism in USA.
Who´s ignorant? Everyone here thingks you are a troll, and look on your only posted video on Youtube, 80% negative feedback, that tells more who is ignorant.
The middle-income in stockholm is higer than New York.
And the only thing you cando is o trying to be a bully on the internet, in real life you probobly are a fat kid hat gets everything he wants and don´t work for anything.
You are still here? Greece are still here to you dum shit.
Yep all you Socialist Bastards think am a Troll for Posting the Truth, too bad for all of you Blind Socialist Morons!!!!
New York the Arm Pit of the World....The Rotten Apple...LOL...NY City is a Shit Hole Moron!!!!
Moron Greece is Dead form all their Failed Socialist Programs you Dumb Ass, wait until Germany stops Bailing out all of your Failing Socialist Countries over there in Your Socialist Europe, you Ignorant Little Socialist Kiddie!!!!!
@00dfm00 "Government involvement in health care = corruption, cronyism, inefficiency, waste, no accountability, and no choices for the treatment you would like." I'm afraid whoever told you that (presumably Pox News) was simply lying. But I also assume given the way you phrase your comment you like Osambasucks2 are not interested in truth or adult conversation.
once again. On July 30, 2009, Rep. Anthony Weiner offered Republicans an opportunity to oppose government-run health care programs by putting forth an amendment that would eliminate Medicare. Every single Republican representative (and every Democrat) on the House Energy and Commerce committee voted to continue Medicare. WHY DIDN'T THE REPUBLICANS VOTE TO END MEDICARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We the People have our Socialist Medicare, and Osambas Socialist Health Care put more People on Medicare and stole Billions from it...Uhhhh Duh you Ignorant Libtard!!!!!
@merlan114 They could try but just as in those countries that run IHC's around the world if an illegal immigrant tries to use the health service then their illegal status will be revealed and they will be returned to their country of origin. The exception to this is if they have a genuine and serious need of heath treatment (accident for instance) you cannot leave anybody just to die in the road.
Interestingly Osambasucks2 rants incorporates "biological racism" and is "violently anti-communist" that must make him a NAZI. The fact he is so stupid he does not know what he is can be seen as tragic (no it's not its bloody hilarious). Note the use of the word "socialist" when defining communism. All Western style democracies from the US to the UK from Canada to Japan have to a greater or lesser degree social programmes which are used to moderate the effects of pure capitalism (Libertarianism)
Wrong you Ignorant Britt Twit, I just Post the facts and all you Socialist Bastards just Hate the Facts!
So you Stupid Ignorant Britt Twit, We done Kicked your Britt Asses out of here twice so we don't need to listen to your Socialist Bullshit No More Ass hole!!!!
@Osambasucks2 You would not know a "fact" if it bit you in the arse let alone understand one.. "Bastards just Hate the Facts"? So you are a NAZI and illegitimate.
@Osambasucks2 You are aware (but I doubt it) that the NAZI's (racially motivated not strong on economic theory) fought a terrible war with Soviet Russia a (truly far left government) that cost more than 37,000,000 lives. No one is telling you to read or indeed listen to anything your choice but I would advise you read something, anything but keep off the "Captain Marvel" comics there doing young good at all.
Sweden has Social health care, and we don´t kill our peopels, the middle life length in Sweden is higher than USA, And Sweden is not in the financial crisis, Sovjet was a Communist counry, That´s a big fucking differens between socialism and communism.
Ignorant? You are just an ignorant capitalist, have you ever been in a socialist counry? I have been in capitalist countries, Capitalists throws out peopels to the street, and let hem die if they don´t have any money. Fuck egoism fuck capitalism, capitalism doesen´t work.
It´s only working for spoiled kids,Fuck Republicans.They are almost the same as Hitler or Stalin.Greedy trashs
The police and firedepartment works? And why the fuck wouldn´t Health care work?
Now why would I want to go to a Shitty Socialist Country????
Hell they are all 3rd world Country's, hell the People are starving, that is why the USA has to send Billions so your Socialist People so you can eat!!!!!
Gee Capitalism Saved the World from Hitlers Socialism, and the USSR tried to beat the World but Capitalism beat their Shitty Socialism!!!
Wake Up and get the Facts Moron, not your Socialist Censored Bullshit Lies!!!!!
You havent sen any money to us, Sweden have sent more money o europe than any other country. You have never been in a socialist country, I have lived there all my life, and WE ARE NOT STARVING. Our country doesen´t censur any shit,
Stop talking so much bullshit.
It´s the american tv that is censored, they just shows hings that is good for capitalists, and fox news are owned 40% of a capitalist company.
@Osambasucks2 Not offering charity care – Hospital are often officially registered as non-profits on the basis that they provide free or discounted health services to qualified patients. However, it has been shown that more than 70% of patients with medical debts are never offered financial assistance from their providers. In fact, uninsured and poor patients are routinely charged much higher prices for their treatment than others.
@Osambasucks2 Suing patients and their spouses – Health care providers can send medical debts to collections, file judgments, garnish wages, obtain home liens, and even take patients to court over medical bills that they cannot afford to pay. In many cases, the spouses of patients are pursued for payment even if they don’t live in a common law state.
@Osambasucks2 Offering expensive credit to patients – If you have medical bills you are unable to pay, health care providers may offer you expensive credit cards or loans as a solution. For example, Kaiser offers a credit card with a 9.9% introductory rate that quickly increases to 24.24%. Some of these accounts are so expensive that your debt will actually increase as you pay each month.
@Osambasucks2 Using collections and credit to coerce patients – Debt issues can lead to serious credit score damage. When health care providers sell debts to collections, file judgments, and obtain liens, they are damaging the patient’s credit profile. According to the Federal Reserve, over 50% of collection records and 20% of lawsuits that appear on credit reports are related to medical debts.
@Osambasucks2 Denying future care to debtors– Some health care providers have strict policies in place that deny health care to patients who owe money for previous treatments. In rural areas, there may be few health care alternatives available for people who are ill and unable to pay their debts.
@Osambasucks2 All together, these abusive debt practices can lead consumers with health problems to destroy their credit, lose their homes, or file for bankruptcy. Without an understanding of their rights, a secure financial standing, and a willingness to negotiate, many patients are stuck facing a financial crisis at the same time as a health crisis.
Hey you Stupid Ignorant Libtard, all that Bullshit that you Posted has nothing to do with the Socialist Health Care & the State of Massachewshitts!!!!!!
Wow are you one Stupid Brain Washed Ignorant Libtard!!!!!
Yep the Socialist Health Care in Massachewshitts Really Sucks, and so does Osambas Socialist Health Care!!!!
70% of America said NO to Osambas Socialist Health Care but they shoved it down our Throats any how!!!!!
Our taxes is fine, I have a big screen tv, a lot of games, eating nice food every day, You think we live like they did in sovjet? Well, we don´t, We have the best life good quality in the world, and are the most equal country in the world to live in. I hope you get sick, so you can´t work so you will learn how trashy USA capitalism really are..
Yep I have my Big Screen Tv and my own Business, and I heat with American Coal not Insane Hussein Osambas Brother Muslims Oil!!!!
Yep and you don't Have 25 Million Illegals, because you DEPORT all Illegals!!!!
Hell Moron, I have had to Pay Cash for my Health Care in the Past, but now I have enough to Afford real Health Care, gee in the USA We the People WORK for what we want!!!!!
And we the People want to stay Free, so you can keep your Shitty Socialism!!!!
Well if you let everyone in your Country and you will take care of them with your Shitty Socialist Health Care, we have 25 Million Illegal Spics here that we would love to send you!!!!!!
Then you can tell me just how Great your 3rd World Shit hole is......Moron!!!!!!!
@Osambasucks2 A recent report from the National Consumer Law Center highlighted the growing problem of abusive medical debt collection practices. According to their report, hospitals use the following tactics:
Communism is a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of a classless, moneyless, stateless and revolutionary socialist society structured upon common ownership of the means of production. In its Marxist-Leninist interpretations which saw intense rivalry between the "socialist world" (socialist states ruled by Communist parties) and the "western world" (countries with market economies and Liberal democratic government),
Nazism, short form name of National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus) was the ideology and practice of Nazi Germany.It is a unique variety of fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism. Nazism was founded out of elements of the far-right racist völkisch German nationalist movement and the violent anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture that fought against the uprisings of communist revolutionaries in post-World War I
hey guys! just so you know, Osmabasucks2 and smoochy999 is the same guy, Mark Michalski of Conneticut. Check out his plenty of fish account (get this! the account is called Osambasucks3!) and take a look at the ugly bugger in the flesh. BTW there's no reasoning with him, he truly is insane, it doesn't matter if the facts say he's wrong, in his insane mind he's right. Or he's just a really bored/no life/loser who just wants to argue, no matter if his argument is sane/logical or not.
PLEASE tell me the rest of America doesn't sound like the aptly named "Osambasucks2" guy.
PLEASE tell me that "normal" Americans understand the benefit of a "Socialized Healthcare". That they understand the differences between Stalinism, Communism and Socialism.
@LordDrew112 unfortunately there are a lot of theese people hear in the usa, but as a whole no were not all like this. i for one want healthcare like they have in the uk and am real happy to report that it is on the horizon. however you had the misfortune of dealing with one of our more uneducated citizens. were not all like that over here and i am truley sorry that you had to deal with that idiot. im sure your country has some loones however i would like to believe they are more civialized.
@4lifemrobama Good to hear your not all like him. Our idiots may be "more civilized" but only because they know that there is more then one country on earth, and America isn't a super invisible perfect state sailing along a sea of cheep Mexican labours that the rest of the earth aspires to be like. :)
@LordDrew112 It is weird that the US culture can produce so many sensible sane people like 4lifemrobama at the same time somewhere somehow it can produce creatures the likes of Osambasucks2. Given the choice of a US governed on the ideals and values of either which do you think the rest of the world would prefer and wish to emulate. Which of the two would produce a society would other societies aspire to be? I know what my choice would be.
Put The Secretaries Of State In ALL 50 States On Notice: Make Obama Prove That He Is Eligible To Hold The Office He Usurped Or Take Him Off The Ballot!
They thought they could get away with it. The elites in Washington and the media hoped and prayed that this issue would go away.
When Judge Michael Malihi denied Obama's motion to dismiss the case, Attorney Orly Taitz exclaimed: "Thank you God! I am ready to cry! After 3 years of battles, for the first time a judge has ruled that Obama’s motion to dismiss is denied. I can now depose Obama and everybody else involved without any impediment."
"No 0ne goes with out Health Care in My Country Ass Wipe, we even pay for the Illegals" Is that quite the truth? Nobody is denied emergency heath care perhaps (although you can be finically ruined by using it) but that is not the same as saying everybody gets healthcare.
Most of the services that are provided by the government are ran locally. Socialized medicine would be ran federally. Issuing a mandate that forces people to pay for healthcare is unconstitutional. Obamacare will never leave the courts, or it will be officially declared unconstitutional. The whole things is a load of bullshit.
@kylepac - good luck!!! Drop us a line when you get there....tell us how great all the freebees are, how high your taxes are(ouch 43.9%), and how it feels to get hosed at the gas pump every week(ouch $9+ per gallon)
Lets all go get hosed by the socialists in norway. Do let us know how great it is.
@kylepac - why Norway gas prices so high ($9+ per gallon) when they are so rich with oil resources in the north sea??? Hmmmmm???? More hidden taxes, and subsidies. All products of the socialist government.
Yep , I'm so sure they would welcome your volunteering into slavery with open arms. Work hard and give the socialist half of your money.
But ohhhh....they will take care of your pathetic sorry ass.
Have fun, but do tell us how wonderful it feels to get fucked every paycheck.
No, no. What we need is COMPETITION in the health insurance industry. Not a government takeover. Look at the government takeovers of college, housing, prescription pills, war (private contractors), etc. This will only lead to increased costs.
There is a DEARTH of health insurance competition. We need to END this CORPORATISM.
Those against UHC's never understand or admit UHC gives far cheaper access to quality healthcare than the current US system. UHC healthcare does not have to be government controlled many UHC's around the world use medical care supplied by private companies. What none have unlike the US are hugely expensive parasitic middlemen HMO. Insurance Companies ripping of the customer before they even get near to a Dr. France 11% GDP rated No1. US 16% GDP no 37th should tell you all you need to know.
@smoochy999 "You socialists just can't stand it getting your assses kicked" etc etc. America became the worlds leading industrial power about 100 years ago. This power was build on having a vast new land full of abundant natural resources and a massive influx of cheap immigrant labour. Nothing wrong with that but don't kid yourself it was created by a free people in a private enterprise paradise it was not It was build on the backs of slaves and the destruction of the indigenous tribes.
The top 1% of Americans own as much wealth as the bottom 95% percent.
That does not leave that much for the other 95%. Very few Brits have nothing but a great likeness for most things America however few envy you your heath system which lets so many live in fear of medical costs. BTW what is a Fabien Socalist?
more than 94% of American's in the top 1% income earners of the world.
You socialists (especially you fabians) just can't stand it!!!!!
Ohhhhhhh we live in so much fear of medical costs in America, while we drive our SUV's, (with cheap gas, 1/2 of uk), and drive to our nice homes (not apartments). Life sooooo sucks!!!!!!
Blahahahahahahaha! You crack me up with the fear mongering fabian socialist. Nice typo hide.newone?
@smoochy999 Being a democratic, capitalist, liberal, socialist and maybe even a fabian socialist but until you explain what that is I cannot know if I'm one or not. I know I'm not a parasite like you and I know unlike most Americans I have never feared the cost of health care. I know when I'm driving my very economical US/Japanese made car it's not costing me a fortune to run and I'm not harming the environment. I know many US citizens go bankrupt paying healthcare bills. I know you're a cunt.
@davijeph - ooooooohh.....a beater driving environMENTALis old man fabian socialist brit twit who used the "c" word. That's a new one on me. Guess I touched a nerve. Blahahahahahaahahahahaha!
Ya know dickhead, in America, we reserve the "c" word for a very small select group of female individuals of questionable character. I don't think I fit the mold.
Just another indicator of just how clueless you are jagoff.
@smoochy999 The only nerve that seems too have been struck is yours. If you cannot take it don't give. "Ya know dickhead, in America, we reserve the "c" word for a very small select group of female individuals of questionable character. I don't think I fit the hold." You fit it to a T.
@smoochy999 Looking at income per capita is a bullshit stat, which doesn't look at nominal values. Looking at the most recent IMF 2011 numbers based on GDP (nominal) per capita, the U.S. is $48,147, while Canada is $51,147. So there is no 'extra' income. Not to mention that Millions in your country can't afford insurance, let along healthcare treatment.
Calling us socialist is smoke screens and mirrors, when your middle class in disappearing and your have NOTS are going through the roof.
@MadHabber93 .....hmm....so now my stats are bullshit? Interesting how you socialists like to play the numbers/stats game.
So explain to me how nominal values play in to your 37th in the world bullshit stat that you fucking idiots like to hang your shit hats on????
Last I checked, Americans had more that 70% of the worlds top 1% wage earners. Doesn't exactly point to, "have NOTS are going through the roof." Now does it?
Calling you socialists not smoke and mirrors, its what itis.
@smoochy999 Who gives a fuck that you have a lot of millionaires. What's that, like a few thousand people?? Meanwhile, Millions of your countrymen can't afford healthcare, a decent home, the list goes on. ANd I never quoted the WHO study, but thanks for nothing on that one.
For nominal values, did you read the fucking link and why they are MORE important dipshit?? Fucking rookie.
@smoochy999 Oh, now don't go and pout like that smooch. Just because I exposed the truth to you. And again, I vote for the Conservative party, so your labelling means fuck all. Good grief.
@Osambasucks2 Never said you didn't have social programs DICKHEAD!! And there are millions of your countrymen that DON'T qualify for medicaide. THerefore, MILLIONS simply go without care or have to take loans to pay for it or just go bankrupt. Your broke because you spend Trillions on a false war, while Millions go without care in your country. MORON!!!
@Osambasucks2 You are one dumb fuck. THere are Millions in your country that DON'T qualify for welfare that still CAN'T afford insurance nor healthcare treatment without insurance. They therefore forgo going to a doctor at ALL.
"Uninsured people are almost three times as likely to report going without medical care as insured people, particularly preventive screenings and care for chronic conditions"
@Osambasucks2 Google Americans going without healthcare and EDUCATE YOURSELF you STUPID FUCK!!!!!!!!
And btw, you are contradicting yourself. On one side of your mouth you are claiming 'we don't believe in socialist gov't hand outs' while on the other side of your mouth in your post earlier you say 'we have socialist programs'.
You Stupid Fuck, there are No Americans or Illegals in America that can't walk in and get treatment you Stupid Lying Ignorant Socialist Canuck!!!!!!
Wow are you one Stupid Fucking Dumb Socialist Canuck....LOL....Moron!!!!!
And yes we do have way too many Socialist Programs that are Killing this Country you Ignorant Fool, we sure the Hell don't need another Shitty Socialist Program to suck up more Money Ass Wipe!!!!
@Osambasucks2 I'm not talking ER treatment you IGNORANT FUCK!!! You are only guaranteed ER care, not chronic care. Try getting cancer treatment in an ER. That's why, according to something called a STUDY, 2 million American cancer patients had to forgo needed treatment because they could not longer AFFORD it. These are patients WITH insurance too you fuck. Google it and EDUCATE YOURSELF.
@Osambasucks2 No, ER treatment is not TOTAL healthcare idiot. All they are obligated to do is stabalize you. That's it. Any further chronic treatment does NOT have to be provided if not life saving. FUck man, you don't even know your own countries system. Look it up you IGNORANT IDIOT!!
You are also too stupid to realize that Obamacare is not even Socialized healthcare.
But hey, keep posting. You just keep embarrassing yourself. ASSHOLE!!
@Osambasucks2 DO YOU EVEN FUCKING KNOW WHAT SOCIALISM IS! My God man. in Britain Obama is more right wing then most of the Conservative Party, or are you so narrow minded and ignorant that you don't know where Europe is? I'll give you a clue, it's next to the sandy place you are obsessed with invading is.
You sir is what is wrong with this world. You will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.
Yep all good Americans know the Socialism Sucks, just look at the USSR! They Killed 7 Million of their Own People and then their Socialist Society Died!!!!
Or the best are the National Socialist Workers Party, Wow they were great, Huh???? Hell they only Killed 50 Million People!!
And Moron, Insane Hussein Osamba is a Lying Marxist Dictator! And in your Socialist Nanny State you are all a Bunch of Blind Socialist Britt Twits!!
@Osambasucks2 Here,since you are too stupid to use google:
August, 2010
"At least 2 million Americans whose cancer went into remission decided against getting recommended follow up treatment mostly because their health insurance wouldn’t fully cover it. That cost-cutting and life-threatening decision was made by one in six cancer “survivors” in the country, according to research published last week"
@Osambasucks2 Tell me please (hopefully with the childish rantings) what do you see are the differences if any between communism, socialism and liberalism? What would your perfect Nation be like? What are your views on things like state education, state or federal minimum pay rates ditto health and safety regulations and enviomental laws and not forgetting abortion?
Oh Looky it is a Little Britt Twit, they all Suck you Ignorant Britt Twit!!!!!
The USA had the Perfect Nation until the Liberals went Sooo far left that they are now Progressive Socialist Ass Holes, they get any further left they will be Nazis!!!!!!!!
State Education Sucks, they fill our Kids Heads with their Socialist Censored Liberal Lies!!!!
And that is Union Ran Education in this Country!!!!
Abortion is none of any body's business, except the 2 people involved!!!!
@Osambasucks2 We can agree on your last sentence. I assume when you say "The USA had the Perfect Nation until the Liberals went Sooo far left that they are now Progressive Socialist Ass Holes," you are referring to FDR and the "New Deal" but before that you had the civil war, 70 years of slavery and 140 years of racial oppression, the great depression with it's unemployment and poverty and for the American Indian almost racial extermination. Not much of a "Perfect Nation" for those?
Yep FDR sure was a Progressive Socialist, and if it wasn't for WWII we would still be in a Depression!!!!
Gee Ass Hole, as it was the Britts Killed the Redman, and the French Enslaved them! Never mind those Racist Spaniards that Killed Millions of the Redmen and then took the Blackman for his Slave!!!! Then you Ignorant Britts did it again over in the South Seas and Australia!!!!! You Britts were good at Racial Extermination!!!!
@Osambasucks2 You are correct the Brit Empire did many shameful things which are well documented and acknowledged (but to keep the balance it did some good things to). The fact you cannot even bring yourself to admit that in its short history America like all Nations as dark side speaks volumes for your rose tinted view of US history.
@davijeph If your statement is true "if it wasn't for WWII we would still be in a Depression!!!!" then please explain why after US Government had spend more tax payers dollars than at any time in its history it managed to emerge from wwii the most powerful and richest nation on the planet. Surely by your "logic" in spending so much on a social necessity like fighing a war you should have been broke like everyone else? "and I work only with Logic!!!" Only machines work only with logic.
Moron just look at History, and I mean the Real History not your Socialist Censored Libtard Bullshit!!!!
Everything that FDR did just sent the USA further in to the Depression, that is why Europe got out of the Depression Years before the USA did you Blind Moron!!!!
Medicare's own actuary has reported that 50% of all Medicare Advantage users will lose their coverage within 5 years, thanks to the millions of dollars cut from Medicare to pay for ObamaCare – more than one half billion dollars in all!
@Osambasucks2 Your views on the US state education system would imply you where given some sort of none state education which in free societies like the US, Canada or the UK is perfectly OK but the way you use English even American English would indicate however much they spend on your private education they were robbed.
I’ve seen people argue against socialized medicine while covered by gov socialized medicine after retiring from the armed forces possibly even for a disability (which would make them eligible for other socialized government programs which they are probably taking advantage of). I know one personally who argues against socialism while living in public housing and on SS, Medicaid etc. Go figure :)
Keep your government hands off my Social Security seems to be the battle cry of the stupid:o)
TheDumbChristian 5 hours ago
The USA doesn't need government-provided insurance, it needs an NHS like we have over in Britain. The only thing that is putting them in the way are a few right-wing, ignorant republicans who are too stuck up about their apparently wonderful constitution to give it a go
reded187 10 hours ago
"Socialized medicine" is NOT a magical mantra that will solve all your problems. When no one is directly responsible for the cost of the goods and services they consume, they have no incentive to make good choices and every incentive to consume as much of those goods and services as possible -- or at least to the extent that the army of bureaucrats running the system will allow them. You think the overhead in the private healthcare sector is bad, wait 'til it becomes a government program.
LambdaKore 20 hours ago
@LambdaKore
Hey that davijeph is just an Ignorant Britt Twit that all ready has his Shitty Socialist Health Care!!!!!
Osambasucks2 18 hours ago
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@LambdaKore You are right about one thing "Socialized medicine" is NOT a magical mantra that will solve all your problems." Obviously it will not anymore than the private system/ socialist system the US users. Heath care could use the entire resources of the US and still not perfect.What you should be trying to achieve is a secure cost effective medical system for all while for those with the means and choice should they so choose pay top dollars for top service.
davijeph 11 hours ago
If someone isn't a troll they might want to google the following phrase:
Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
After reading the article that this will take you to you could dispute it by sending for the MENSA home IQ test. That should give you an accurate indication of your true IQ. I'm betting you'll be very surprised.
nlowell1 23 hours ago
You honestly believe that the government would manage our healthcare system and dollars better than individuals participating in the free market? That's either baseless idealism or despicable stupidity on your part. The government already has too much power over your life, and you want to give them even more? And not just over your own life -- where the cost of failure could be limited to affect just yourself -- but also over the lives of hundreds of millions of other people? Unbelievable...
LambdaKore 1 day ago
@LambdaKore It's neither "baseless idealism or despicable stupidity". Based on the fact that the US is rated 37th in heath care yes paying for is costs about twice that of another country that users a UHC system would seem to be based on "baseless idealism or despicable stupidity". The fact that in a lot of these countries healthcare systems is not government controlled simply to a greater or lesser degree financed by all citizens for the benefit of all citizens including the rich.
davijeph 22 hours ago
@davijeph So if we're so far down the list, why is the U.S. still the destination of choice for world leaders to come to for THEIR medical treatment? For example, wasn't it just last year where one of Canada's ministers came here for heart surgery, rather than enjoy Canada's state-provided services? Again, dude -- if you want to surrender control of your OWN life to the Feds, you go for it, but keep your fucking hands off everyone else's life.
LambdaKore 21 hours ago
@LambdaKore World leaders have the money to pay for your top-end medical care. America does have excellent top end medicine but that is not what the bulk of any nations population is in need of most of the time. Had an heart attack? Can you pay for the long term medical care and prescriptions needed afterwards without going bankrupt? Health care is about ALL citizens having access to 100% treatments 100%of the time regardless of ability to pay. US 37th France No 1
davijeph 20 hours ago
@davijeph There are some things -- like the police, the courts, and the military -- for which we all pay and for which we all receive services or benefits. These are necessary evils, for which there are constitutional provisions, and the concept was not meant to be expanded into the realm of personal consumer choices. And healthcare is most certainly that.
LambdaKore 20 hours ago
@LambdaKore Consumer choice is great but choice is only a reality for those who have the money. I have not mentioned the profit motive but since you mention it why do you think your system costs so much yet gives so little to so many? You have a vast army of bureaucrats working in you private insurance companies none of which supply you with so much as an Aspirin. The wealthy will always be able to afford "the best" the problem with the US systems to many can afford nothing or very little.
davijeph 11 hours ago
@LambdaKore With an estimated 45 million uninsured Americans, some 500,000 trekked overseas last year for medical treatment, according to the National Coalition on Health Care". "NEWS FROM CAMBRIDGE HEALTH ALLIANCE. June 4, 2009. Over 60 Percent of All US Bankruptcies Linked to Medical Problems. New research finds most victims are middle-class and have health insurance". If a system is proven to supply overall a higher rated cheaper healthcare than.
davijeph 11 hours ago
@davijeph Yes -- it's called "medical tourism". There ARE people willing to travel to other countries, willing to pay whatever it takes, and willing to take the risk for drugs and treatments not available here, because those goods and services have not been approved by the FDA. Also, hospitals are not free to compete, but must charge what the government tells them to, at rates the government sets. That's the GOVERNMENT limiting choice, not the free market.
LambdaKore 8 hours ago
@LambdaKore Nobody is saying if you have the money and choose to spend it on private medicine you cannot do so. UHC’s ensure no citizen goes without health cover this must be good for the heath of your population and even ensures that the rich will never be ruined when highly expensive and long term heath cost hit your family. To use your constitution as an excuse for not supplying it to all your citizens means there is something wrong with your constitution or theirs something wrong with you.
davijeph 11 hours ago
@davijeph The main thrust of your argument is that giving the government control of the healthcare industry will remove the profit motive (which you seem to regard as evil or unjust, despite the goods and services it makes available to you), which you think means more dollars devoted to actual healthcare services. That's a false assumption. The government is notorious for failing to stick to a budget, and for robbing one program to pay for another -- this would be no exception.
LambdaKore 20 hours ago
@davijeph As it is right now (for the most part), you make the choices for your health care, and you pay the cost, whether in the plan you use, the lifestyle you live, and the services you use -- and that's how it should be. Why are you so eager to have a bearueacrat tell you what plan you can have, what services you'll get, and when you'll get them? Think it's bad now? Just wait.
LambdaKore 20 hours ago
@davijeph "World leaders have the money to pay for your top-end medical care." So in other words, do as they say, but not as they do, right? In the real world, we call that being a hypocrite. If the system is so good it needs to be imposed on the masses by force of law, surely it ought to be good enough for the people who write and enforce the laws, shouldn't it? That should have been your first flag that socialized medicine was a boon-doggle.
LambdaKore 20 hours ago
@davijeph One more thing: it's a false argument (i.e., a "misrepresentation", or what I like to call a "lie") to use the word "choice" when the appropriate word is "force". In your scenario, you claim that we would "choose" to have the government manage the plan for us, when in fact we would be FORCED by law -- say, ObamaCare -- to participate. Remember his promise that we could keep our plans and our doctors? Doesn't seem to holding up too well at the moment.
LambdaKore 20 hours ago
@davijeph "Health care is about ALL citizens having access to 100% treatments 100%of the time regardless of ability to pay" Says who? You? And who pays for it? When you pay your own bills, I don't have the right to complain about the choices you make or how you spend your own money. When I'm forced by law to pay your bills, you can bet I'll let you spend as little money as possible -- and the government will be no exception. Ever heard of squeezing blood from a stone?
LambdaKore 20 hours ago
@LambdaKore You seem like many Libertarians to have no sense of the wider community . Saying "you are happy to give to the charity of your choice" why should I be forced to give to help everyone"? The answer is simple you are a member of a society that society has basic HUMAN standards of right or wrong. You are responsible for your neighbour and your neighbour is responsible for you not because some scrap of paper tells you what you can or cannot do but because your shared humanity demands it.
davijeph 11 hours ago
@davijeph HA HA HA HA! What an overly-developed sense of responsibility. Dude, if you want to be your brother's keeper, do it with your own money. You're free to ask others to chip in, but trying to compel them in order to prove your moral superiority is chicken-shit. You don't prove how compassionate and caring you are by using the government's guns to force others to do as you want them to do -- that's called being a statist thug, and most people will resent that very much.
LambdaKore 9 hours ago
@davijeph Actually, it reveals a desire to have your own lifestyle subsidized at others expense, couched in a a language of brotherhood -- how original. Let's force EVERYONE to contribute -- under threat of law -- so that YOU can enjoy goods and services you would otherwise have to pay for yourself, and all at subsidized rates. There's nothing noble about invoking the government to commit fraud and theft on your behalf -- even a mugger has the balls to commit his crimes himself.
LambdaKore 9 hours ago
@LambdaKore My life style as never been subsided by the tax payer. No matter how you chose to belittle "government" the US system of healthcare is the most expensive in the world but is rated a lowly 37th. If a "free market" means a medical/welfare system without tax based subsidies how would those with no or low income get welfare/medical help (don't tell me charity your welfare bill alone is $953 billion)? If UHC's are bad ideas why does every advanced liberal democratic nation use them?
davijeph 8 hours ago
@davijeph And of course, you've chosen to invoke the classic liberal argument that anyone who disagrees with you does so because they're not smart enough to understand the issues, or they're morally inferior to you, or -- should those charges fail to stick -- because they're racist or sexist or whatever. It never occurs to you that they disagree with you and oppose your ideas BECAUSE THEY"RE BAD IDEAS. They involve use of force, the theft of property, and the reduction of choice.
LambdaKore 9 hours ago
@davijeph And assuming that your concern for the few who do suffer catastrophic medical crisises or are chronically uninsured IS genuine, then why not create a safety net to cover those few unfortunates that DOESN'T involve screwing things up for EVERYONE? Just because ONE guy can't or won't take care of himself DOESN'T mean you hand EVERYONE in town over to the control of an army of indifferent bureaucratic thugs. That just brings everyone down to a common level of misery -- not good.
LambdaKore 9 hours ago
@davijeph
Well you Ignorant Britt Twit, We the Free People of the USA Kicked your Ignorant Britt Asses out of here twice so we wouldn't have to do what you wanted us to do!!!!!
So you can keep your Shitty Socialism and We the Free People of the USA will keep Our Freedom Ass Hole!!!!!!
Osambasucks2 18 hours ago
The only reason Bush Jnr added $4,000,000,000 to the US's national debt (not to mention 110,000 dead) was because he wanted to give his dad the present of Saddam's head on a plate. The reason why Pres' Obama HAD TO increase that debt was if he had not the entire US banking and finance system would have collapsed and with it vast swaths of US business (not to mention the rest of the world). Obviously some dumb nuts in the US would rather have Hoovervilles than a sound banking system.
davijeph 1 day ago
@davijeph
Oh Looky an Ignorant Britt Twit is trying to Bullshit America!!!!!
Too bad for you, you Ignorant Britt Twit, but all of us here in America know the Truth and can see that you are just Spewing your Socialist Censored Bullshit Lies!!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 day ago
@Osambasucks2 Insulting people is not an answer to the point they make.
davijeph 22 hours ago
You can certainly tell the Fox News Glenn Beck viewers. It's very entertaining reading their posts. The right wing propaganda mission has been an incredible success.
Excellent video by the way. Just what I need for my right wing friends with Fox induced brain freeze.
TheDumbChristian 1 day ago
@TheDumbChristian
Yep Fox News is the #1 News Station all across America, We the People are tired of your Socialist Censored Liberal Lying News! So we all watched Mr Beck show us all the Truth backed by Fact! Something that you will never see in the Lamestream Liberal Lying Media!!!!
Yep the Lying Marxist Dictator said that he would Create Jobs, so Osamba sent our Tax Dollars & our Jobs to South America & his Commie Buddy George Soros!!!!!
Yep We the People know the TRUTH!
Osambasucks2 1 day ago
Just to let every one know. I am an American and no we are not all like the crazy Obamasucks2 guy. Most of us want socialized healthcare and realize it's merits. It may not be perfect but no system is. that being said there are more pros to it than cons, and one day we will have it here in the USA. And on that day even the looney right wingers can have healthcare also because "WE THE PEOPLE" do accept them and their right to free speach.
4lifemrobama 1 day ago
@4lifemrobama
Yep you are an Ignorant Brain Washed Libtard, and We the People are not all as Stupid and Ignorant like you Ass Hole!!!!
Yep the FACT is that 70% of Americans said NO to Osambas Socialist Health Care you Lying Libtard Ass Hole!!!!!
And We the People don't want a Lying Marxist Dictator, that is why We the People will throw Insane Hussein Osamba out on his Lying Marxist Black Ass you Lying Libtard Ass Hole!!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 day ago
@Osambasucks2 Well according to a cbs poll "The AP poll, conducted May 5-9, shows that 54 percent of Americans approve of Mr. Obama's handling of health care, while 46 percent disapprove." But aside from that issue i still don't see why you name call every one who you dissagree with. And the comment about throwing him out on his "Black Ass" actually makes your argument more puerile and archaic. If you want to have a civil discores thats fine but not when your so contemptible.
4lifemrobama 1 day ago
@4lifemrobama
Well according to the Fox Poll 70% (Jan 5-12) of Americans do not want Osambas Shitty Socialist Health Care, and Fox News is the #1 News Station all across America!!! And I see that you have OLD NEWS!!!!
So you can Believe in what your Socialist Censored Liberal Lying News is telling you, and the Rest of America will Believe in the Truth!!!!!
And My Comment was throw Insane Hussein Osamba out on his LYING MARXIST BLACK ASS you Ignorant Ass Hole!!!!!
Osambasucks2 18 hours ago
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IF you actually took away all the verbal diarrhoea and childish language from what Osambasucks2 says he does not actually say anything. Theirs nothing there, no discussion, no ideas, no intelligence just mindless racial abuse and schoolboy insults.
davijeph 2 days ago
If you had to buy fire insurance and police services, your taxes would be much lower. Plus, the service would be competitive with other businesses, and it would therefore be a much better service.
DjZephy 3 days ago 2
@DjZephyThe problem with a “free market” while we can choose and tailor our needs to our income when thinking of buying a car, washing m/c etc we all require 100% Police, fire and healthcare services giving almost unlimited treatment costs over a lifetime for ourselves and our families. The US system shows not just the poor but even the averagely wealthy could never afford to pay the premiums required. All but the very wealthy need UHC’s to back up the cost of healthcare.
davijeph 3 days ago
IF you actually took away all the verbal diarrhoea and childish language from what Osambasucks2 says he does not actually say anything. Theirs nothing there, no discussion, no ideas, no intelligence just mindless racial abuse and schoolboy insults.
davijeph 3 days ago
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@davijeph
Wrong Moron, I just told Osamba, what would he call himself after Osamba had called Bush Irresponsible for adding 4 Trillion Dollars to the National debt! Now that Osamba has add 5 Trillion Dollars to the National; Debt in just 3 Years!!!!!
Yep No Troll Here Moron, Just the Facts!!!!!
Osambasucks2 3 days ago
@Osambasucks2 You are perhaps one of the most uneducated and irrational people I have talked to. Did you know that 65% of the people whose homes were foreclosed by the bank were because they could not pay their medical bills? Are you going to call those people morons and tell them to get a job? What about people who can't pay $50,000 for a surgery or a procedure because they have a family to take care of and are below the poverty line? Ever think about them for once?
mattm3520 2 days ago
@mattm3520
Did you know that you are a Moron, We the People of the USA and that is 70% of the People, DO NOT WANT INSANE HUSSEIN OSAMBS SHITTY SOCIALIST HEALTH CARE MORON!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 day ago
@Osambasucks2 If you call Obama socialist for wanting a socialist healthcare, do you ever consider the fact that the government runs a lot of things? Police and firemen are paid by the GOVERNMENT and are SOCIALIST services. 2 of the 3 services from dialing 911 are government-run, except healthcare, which should be government-run, because the free market has destroyed the healthcare system.
mattm3520 2 days ago
@mattm3520
I never Called Insane Hussein Osamba a Socialist you Ignorant Moron, Insane Hussein Osamba is a Lying Marxist Dictator you Ignorant Moron!!!!
The Government does not run the Police Ass Hole, the Government has the FBI.....Uhhhh Duh Moron!!!!
And the Firemen are not Government ran either you Ignorant Idiot!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 day ago
@Osambasucks2 Bush is responsible for being in Iraq for 8 years without a good purpose. Weapons of mass destruction? What happened to them? No blood for oil. Obama hasn't plunged us into any wars lately. He's not the best, but he does not deserve to be torn apart by moronic conservative propaganda that you so kindly like to spread like sickness.
mattm3520 2 days ago
@mattm3520
Yep about 4 Years ago the AP ran a story that was Titled "WMD's Found"!!!!!
Plus Bush was Killing a Dictator that was Killing his own People....Uhhhh Duih Moron!!!!
Then comes Osamba who also sent More Troops to Kill the Muslim Terrorists....Gee the Truth is just Great ain't it Moron?????
And Insane Hussein Osamba started 2 Illegal Wars you Ignorant Moron!!!!
Wow are you one Stupid Ignorant Libtard Moron!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 day ago
@mattm3520
Oh and here is a Good Fact for you Moron, Insane Hussein Osamba said that Bad Mr Bush was Irresponsible for adding 4 Trillion Dollars to the national Debt in his 8yr term!
But yet the Lying Marxist Dictator has already added 5 Trillion Dollars to the national; Debt in just 3 Fucking Years!
So now what do you Call Insane Hussein Osamba or what would he call himself for doing that??????
Osambasucks2 1 day ago
Government involvement in health care = corruption, cronyism, inefficiency, waste, no accountability, and no choices for the treatment you would like.
00dfm00 4 days ago
@00dfm00
And you don´t hing Police and firedepartment doesen´t work?
No choices? We give what peopels need,not what they have in money.
I had Brain surgery for epilepsy when I was 3 year, and I live, AND THAT WAS GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE so don´t talk shit.
The average swed lives o 76 years, and the Americans to only 73, that tells everything, More newborn kids dies in america than on cuba, still america lays more money on health care than cuba, private healthcare sucks.
Siegfried881 4 days ago
@Siegfried881 Quit putting words in my mouth. I'm just pointing out that government health care, as a whole, doesn't run well and invites problems away from the operating table. And the average citizen doesn't realize how much it actually costs. As a Canadian, I am just as entitled to speak about this as you, a Swede. The American system is filled with corruption BECAUSE of their crony-capitalism. They haven't had a free market in health care for decades.
00dfm00 4 days ago
@Siegfried881
Yep and they REMOVED YOUR BRAIN you Stupid Little Kiddie....Wow that says it all right there!!!!! A Brainless Stupid Socialist Ass....LOL!!!!!!!!
Osambasucks2 3 days ago
@Osambasucks2
You can´t even argue like a normal person, and you are typing lol?
Only 12 year old uses lol. Grow up.
Siegfried881 3 days ago
@Siegfried881
You Brainless Little Kiddie, I am not Arguing I just Posted the Facts and you can't take it!!!!!
Osambasucks2 3 days ago
@Osambasucks2
The fact?
You know that very many countries in the world have universal health care, and it works, why are you so afraid? Because poor peopels will get help? You hate poor peopels?
Learn o argue instead, now you just look like a spoiled kid.
It´s probobly the american television that made you believe it was so bad.
Look on Michael Moores docomentary "Sicko"
Medicine on Cuba costs 10 time less than in america, Thats says everything about egoism in USA.
Siegfried881 3 days ago
@Siegfried881
Yep who Fucking Cares, most of those Country's are going Broke from their Failed Socialist Programs....Uhhhh Duh Moron!!!!!
You just don't get it, We the People of the USA do not want your Shitty Socialism!!!!!
Your Shitty Socialist Health Care is against our Constitutional Rights!!!
So your Shitty Socialist Health Care is Illegal in the USA!!!!
The Poor in My Country already have Programs to help them Ass Hole!!!
And that is just how Ignorant you are!!!!!
Osambasucks2 3 days ago
@Osambasucks2
We are going broke? Your country is 16000 billion dollers back and Sweden Haven´t been affected by the finansial crisis.
THE USA IS MORE BANKRUPED THAN GREECE, you are so fucking ignorant.
They don´t want socialism? 30 % of the peopels wan´t socialism in USA, and peopels between 18 and 30 does 52 % want Socialism in USA.
You are going broke because Bush was the worst president in the world and just started wars everywere.
Siegfried881 3 days ago
@Siegfried881
Wrong again Ass Hole, Greece is all done and we are still here Ass Hole!!!!
Yep all you Stupid Ignorant Euro Socialist Trash, Hitler couldn't finish the job but you Ass Holes have done it for him....LOL....Moron
Ass Hole, we are going Broke because Insane Hussein Osamba is spending 3 Times more than Bush did you Ignorant Piece of Euro Trash!!!!
Osambasucks2 3 days ago
@Osambasucks2
Who´s ignorant? Everyone here thingks you are a troll, and look on your only posted video on Youtube, 80% negative feedback, that tells more who is ignorant.
The middle-income in stockholm is higer than New York.
And the only thing you cando is o trying to be a bully on the internet, in real life you probobly are a fat kid hat gets everything he wants and don´t work for anything.
You are still here? Greece are still here to you dum shit.
Siegfried881 2 days ago
@Siegfried881
Yep all you Socialist Bastards think am a Troll for Posting the Truth, too bad for all of you Blind Socialist Morons!!!!
New York the Arm Pit of the World....The Rotten Apple...LOL...NY City is a Shit Hole Moron!!!!
Moron Greece is Dead form all their Failed Socialist Programs you Dumb Ass, wait until Germany stops Bailing out all of your Failing Socialist Countries over there in Your Socialist Europe, you Ignorant Little Socialist Kiddie!!!!!
Osambasucks2 2 days ago
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@00dfm00 "Government involvement in health care = corruption, cronyism, inefficiency, waste, no accountability, and no choices for the treatment you would like." I'm afraid whoever told you that (presumably Pox News) was simply lying. But I also assume given the way you phrase your comment you like Osambasucks2 are not interested in truth or adult conversation.
davijeph 4 days ago
once again. On July 30, 2009, Rep. Anthony Weiner offered Republicans an opportunity to oppose government-run health care programs by putting forth an amendment that would eliminate Medicare. Every single Republican representative (and every Democrat) on the House Energy and Commerce committee voted to continue Medicare. WHY DIDN'T THE REPUBLICANS VOTE TO END MEDICARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4lifemrobama 4 days ago
@4lifemrobama
We the People have our Socialist Medicare, and Osambas Socialist Health Care put more People on Medicare and stole Billions from it...Uhhhh Duh you Ignorant Libtard!!!!!
Osambasucks2 4 days ago
@Osambasucks2 then why didn't the republicans vote to end it?
4lifemrobama 4 days ago
This whole video is filled with lies and straw man arguments. It's complete bogus. Watch /watch?v=SPq6_7AFsp4
TWSceptic 5 days ago
@TWSceptic Doren is the epitome of straw man arguments.
MadHabber93 5 days ago
But if you create this so called money account so that anyone could take out of it, wouldn't illegal immigrants use it?
merlan114 5 days ago 2
@merlan114 They could try but just as in those countries that run IHC's around the world if an illegal immigrant tries to use the health service then their illegal status will be revealed and they will be returned to their country of origin. The exception to this is if they have a genuine and serious need of heath treatment (accident for instance) you cannot leave anybody just to die in the road.
davijeph 5 days ago
@davijeph Yea but u know america is different. Ppl say they same for welfare that you have to be a citizen. but they give it to them anyway.
merlan114 5 days ago
Interestingly Osambasucks2 rants incorporates "biological racism" and is "violently anti-communist" that must make him a NAZI. The fact he is so stupid he does not know what he is can be seen as tragic (no it's not its bloody hilarious). Note the use of the word "socialist" when defining communism. All Western style democracies from the US to the UK from Canada to Japan have to a greater or lesser degree social programmes which are used to moderate the effects of pure capitalism (Libertarianism)
davijeph 6 days ago
@davijeph
Wrong you Ignorant Britt Twit, I just Post the facts and all you Socialist Bastards just Hate the Facts!
So you Stupid Ignorant Britt Twit, We done Kicked your Britt Asses out of here twice so we don't need to listen to your Socialist Bullshit No More Ass hole!!!!
Osambasucks2 6 days ago
@Osambasucks2 You would not know a "fact" if it bit you in the arse let alone understand one.. "Bastards just Hate the Facts"? So you are a NAZI and illegitimate.
davijeph 5 days ago
@davijeph
But yet all the Socialist Nazis are on the Far Left with all you Ignorant Socialist Britt Twits!!!!!
And We the People of the USA Kicked your Sorry Britt Asses out of here twice so we wouldn't have to Listen to your Socialist Nazi Bullshit!!!!
Osambasucks2 5 days ago
@Osambasucks2 You are aware (but I doubt it) that the NAZI's (racially motivated not strong on economic theory) fought a terrible war with Soviet Russia a (truly far left government) that cost more than 37,000,000 lives. No one is telling you to read or indeed listen to anything your choice but I would advise you read something, anything but keep off the "Captain Marvel" comics there doing young good at all.
davijeph 5 days ago
@davijeph
Really you stupid Britt Twit, yep the Socialist Nazis Killed 50 Million People!!!!
Yep the USSR the Socialist Soviets & the National Socialist Nazis, wow they Both Sucked!!!!
And then the USSR Killed 7 Million of their own People, Wow Socialism Really Does Suck!!!!
Now the USSR Lost the Cold War, Gee and they threw away their Shitty Socialism, wake Up you Ignorant Socialist Britt Twit!!!!!
Osambasucks2 5 days ago
@Osambasucks2 Well you're a dick head but at least you're a consistent dick head.
davijeph 5 days ago
@Osambasucks2
Sweden has Social health care, and we don´t kill our peopels, the middle life length in Sweden is higher than USA, And Sweden is not in the financial crisis, Sovjet was a Communist counry, That´s a big fucking differens between socialism and communism.
We take care of our peopels, USA don´t
Siegfried881 5 days ago
@Siegfried881
Good for you, and how is your Vat Tax Doing?????
Wrong Moron, it was the USSR not the UCSR!!!!!
Chins was Commie and North Korea and North Vietnam you Ignorant Moron!!!!
We take care of all of our People Moron, we even take care of the 25 Million Illegals in this Country!!!!
But then you are just another Ignorant Socialist Euro-Trash!!!!
Osambasucks2 5 days ago
@Osambasucks2
Ignorant? You are just an ignorant capitalist, have you ever been in a socialist counry? I have been in capitalist countries, Capitalists throws out peopels to the street, and let hem die if they don´t have any money. Fuck egoism fuck capitalism, capitalism doesen´t work.
It´s only working for spoiled kids,Fuck Republicans.They are almost the same as Hitler or Stalin.Greedy trashs
The police and firedepartment works? And why the fuck wouldn´t Health care work?
Siegfried881 4 days ago
@Siegfried881
Now why would I want to go to a Shitty Socialist Country????
Hell they are all 3rd world Country's, hell the People are starving, that is why the USA has to send Billions so your Socialist People so you can eat!!!!!
Gee Capitalism Saved the World from Hitlers Socialism, and the USSR tried to beat the World but Capitalism beat their Shitty Socialism!!!
Wake Up and get the Facts Moron, not your Socialist Censored Bullshit Lies!!!!!
Osambasucks2 4 days ago
@Osambasucks2
Are you fucking stupid?
Hiler Was a Nazi, not a socialist.
You havent sen any money to us, Sweden have sent more money o europe than any other country. You have never been in a socialist country, I have lived there all my life, and WE ARE NOT STARVING. Our country doesen´t censur any shit,
Stop talking so much bullshit.
It´s the american tv that is censored, they just shows hings that is good for capitalists, and fox news are owned 40% of a capitalist company.
Siegfried881 4 days ago
@Siegfried881
Bullshit Moron, you can't enter your Country Illegally Ass Hole!!!!!
Oh you have More Money to Bail Out Socialist Europe, then you best get to WORKING because all Europe's Socialist Programs are Killing them!!!!
Yep you have the Socialist Censored Liberal Lies Ass Hole, Fox News has the Facts, watch it and Learn Ass Hole!!!!!
Yep Insane Hussein Osamba has Killed our Economy Moron!!!!
Osambasucks2 4 days ago
@Osambasucks2 Not offering charity care – Hospital are often officially registered as non-profits on the basis that they provide free or discounted health services to qualified patients. However, it has been shown that more than 70% of patients with medical debts are never offered financial assistance from their providers. In fact, uninsured and poor patients are routinely charged much higher prices for their treatment than others.
4lifemrobama 4 days ago
@Osambasucks2 Suing patients and their spouses – Health care providers can send medical debts to collections, file judgments, garnish wages, obtain home liens, and even take patients to court over medical bills that they cannot afford to pay. In many cases, the spouses of patients are pursued for payment even if they don’t live in a common law state.
4lifemrobama 4 days ago
@Osambasucks2 Offering expensive credit to patients – If you have medical bills you are unable to pay, health care providers may offer you expensive credit cards or loans as a solution. For example, Kaiser offers a credit card with a 9.9% introductory rate that quickly increases to 24.24%. Some of these accounts are so expensive that your debt will actually increase as you pay each month.
4lifemrobama 4 days ago
@Osambasucks2 Using collections and credit to coerce patients – Debt issues can lead to serious credit score damage. When health care providers sell debts to collections, file judgments, and obtain liens, they are damaging the patient’s credit profile. According to the Federal Reserve, over 50% of collection records and 20% of lawsuits that appear on credit reports are related to medical debts.
4lifemrobama 4 days ago
@Osambasucks2 Denying future care to debtors– Some health care providers have strict policies in place that deny health care to patients who owe money for previous treatments. In rural areas, there may be few health care alternatives available for people who are ill and unable to pay their debts.
4lifemrobama 4 days ago
@Osambasucks2 All together, these abusive debt practices can lead consumers with health problems to destroy their credit, lose their homes, or file for bankruptcy. Without an understanding of their rights, a secure financial standing, and a willingness to negotiate, many patients are stuck facing a financial crisis at the same time as a health crisis.
4lifemrobama 4 days ago
@4lifemrobama
Hey you Stupid Ignorant Libtard, all that Bullshit that you Posted has nothing to do with the Socialist Health Care & the State of Massachewshitts!!!!!!
Wow are you one Stupid Brain Washed Ignorant Libtard!!!!!
Yep the Socialist Health Care in Massachewshitts Really Sucks, and so does Osambas Socialist Health Care!!!!
70% of America said NO to Osambas Socialist Health Care but they shoved it down our Throats any how!!!!!
Did you get all of that Moron?????
Osambasucks2 3 days ago
@Osambasucks2
And look at Canada, they have better economy than your shity counry that tries to be the police state of the world.
Siegfried881 4 days ago
@Osambasucks2
Our taxes is fine, I have a big screen tv, a lot of games, eating nice food every day, You think we live like they did in sovjet? Well, we don´t, We have the best life good quality in the world, and are the most equal country in the world to live in. I hope you get sick, so you can´t work so you will learn how trashy USA capitalism really are..
Siegfried881 4 days ago
@Siegfried881
Yep I have my Big Screen Tv and my own Business, and I heat with American Coal not Insane Hussein Osambas Brother Muslims Oil!!!!
Yep and you don't Have 25 Million Illegals, because you DEPORT all Illegals!!!!
Hell Moron, I have had to Pay Cash for my Health Care in the Past, but now I have enough to Afford real Health Care, gee in the USA We the People WORK for what we want!!!!!
And we the People want to stay Free, so you can keep your Shitty Socialism!!!!
Osambasucks2 4 days ago
@Osambasucks2
Illegals?
We don´t have Illegals because everyone is welcome.
America thins they are the only peopels in the world, you know what? You are one of the most hated countries in the world, even more than Cuba.
Siegfried881 4 days ago
@Siegfried881
Well if you let everyone in your Country and you will take care of them with your Shitty Socialist Health Care, we have 25 Million Illegal Spics here that we would love to send you!!!!!!
Then you can tell me just how Great your 3rd World Shit hole is......Moron!!!!!!!
Osambasucks2 4 days ago
@Osambasucks2
Don´t talk about things you don´t know, how old are you? 12? Do your parent´s pay for everything to you?
Siegfried881 4 days ago
@Siegfried881
Boo Hoo the Ignorant Little Kiddie doesn't like the Truth...Boo Hoo Moron!!!!!
Osambasucks2 3 days ago
@Osambasucks2 A recent report from the National Consumer Law Center highlighted the growing problem of abusive medical debt collection practices. According to their report, hospitals use the following tactics:
4lifemrobama 4 days ago
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davijeph 5 days ago
Communism is a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of a classless, moneyless, stateless and revolutionary socialist society structured upon common ownership of the means of production. In its Marxist-Leninist interpretations which saw intense rivalry between the "socialist world" (socialist states ruled by Communist parties) and the "western world" (countries with market economies and Liberal democratic government),
davijeph 6 days ago
Nazism, short form name of National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus) was the ideology and practice of Nazi Germany.It is a unique variety of fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism. Nazism was founded out of elements of the far-right racist völkisch German nationalist movement and the violent anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture that fought against the uprisings of communist revolutionaries in post-World War I
davijeph 6 days ago
hey guys! just so you know, Osmabasucks2 and smoochy999 is the same guy, Mark Michalski of Conneticut. Check out his plenty of fish account (get this! the account is called Osambasucks3!) and take a look at the ugly bugger in the flesh. BTW there's no reasoning with him, he truly is insane, it doesn't matter if the facts say he's wrong, in his insane mind he's right. Or he's just a really bored/no life/loser who just wants to argue, no matter if his argument is sane/logical or not.
DeathToTheDictators 6 days ago
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@DeathToTheDictators Thank you! Should we troll him? ;)
minimatt37 6 days ago
@DeathToTheDictators
Hey your Faggot Canuck Lover is on the other Video, so why don't you go there and make up with your Faggot lover Lamosqurit???
Both of you Lying Socialist Faggot Canucks need each other to keep warm this Winter!!!!
Osambasucks2 6 days ago
PLEASE tell me the rest of America doesn't sound like the aptly named "Osambasucks2" guy.
PLEASE tell me that "normal" Americans understand the benefit of a "Socialized Healthcare". That they understand the differences between Stalinism, Communism and Socialism.
My God America.
LordDrew112 1 week ago
@LordDrew112 unfortunately there are a lot of theese people hear in the usa, but as a whole no were not all like this. i for one want healthcare like they have in the uk and am real happy to report that it is on the horizon. however you had the misfortune of dealing with one of our more uneducated citizens. were not all like that over here and i am truley sorry that you had to deal with that idiot. im sure your country has some loones however i would like to believe they are more civialized.
4lifemrobama 1 week ago
@4lifemrobama Good to hear your not all like him. Our idiots may be "more civilized" but only because they know that there is more then one country on earth, and America isn't a super invisible perfect state sailing along a sea of cheep Mexican labours that the rest of the earth aspires to be like. :)
LordDrew112 1 week ago
@LordDrew112 It is weird that the US culture can produce so many sensible sane people like 4lifemrobama at the same time somewhere somehow it can produce creatures the likes of Osambasucks2. Given the choice of a US governed on the ideals and values of either which do you think the rest of the world would prefer and wish to emulate. Which of the two would produce a society would other societies aspire to be? I know what my choice would be.
davijeph 1 week ago
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@davijeph
Put The Secretaries Of State In ALL 50 States On Notice: Make Obama Prove That He Is Eligible To Hold The Office He Usurped Or Take Him Off The Ballot!
They thought they could get away with it. The elites in Washington and the media hoped and prayed that this issue would go away.
Osambasucks2 6 days ago
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@davijeph
When Judge Michael Malihi denied Obama's motion to dismiss the case, Attorney Orly Taitz exclaimed: "Thank you God! I am ready to cry! After 3 years of battles, for the first time a judge has ruled that Obama’s motion to dismiss is denied. I can now depose Obama and everybody else involved without any impediment."
Osambasucks2 6 days ago
@LordDrew112 here**
4lifemrobama 1 week ago
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"No 0ne goes with out Health Care in My Country Ass Wipe, we even pay for the Illegals" Is that quite the truth? Nobody is denied emergency heath care perhaps (although you can be finically ruined by using it) but that is not the same as saying everybody gets healthcare.
davijeph 1 week ago
Most of the services that are provided by the government are ran locally. Socialized medicine would be ran federally. Issuing a mandate that forces people to pay for healthcare is unconstitutional. Obamacare will never leave the courts, or it will be officially declared unconstitutional. The whole things is a load of bullshit.
yandirtty21 1 week ago
i'm moving to norway. fuck america. fuck capitalism
kylepac 1 week ago
@kylepac - good luck!!! Drop us a line when you get there....tell us how great all the freebees are, how high your taxes are(ouch 43.9%), and how it feels to get hosed at the gas pump every week(ouch $9+ per gallon)
Lets all go get hosed by the socialists in norway. Do let us know how great it is.
smoochy999 1 week ago
@kylepac - why Norway gas prices so high ($9+ per gallon) when they are so rich with oil resources in the north sea??? Hmmmmm???? More hidden taxes, and subsidies. All products of the socialist government.
Yep , I'm so sure they would welcome your volunteering into slavery with open arms. Work hard and give the socialist half of your money.
But ohhhh....they will take care of your pathetic sorry ass.
Have fun, but do tell us how wonderful it feels to get fucked every paycheck.
smoochy999 1 week ago
No, no. What we need is COMPETITION in the health insurance industry. Not a government takeover. Look at the government takeovers of college, housing, prescription pills, war (private contractors), etc. This will only lead to increased costs.
There is a DEARTH of health insurance competition. We need to END this CORPORATISM.
VOTE RON PAUL 2012!!!
EndTheFedRes 1 week ago
Those against UHC's never understand or admit UHC gives far cheaper access to quality healthcare than the current US system. UHC healthcare does not have to be government controlled many UHC's around the world use medical care supplied by private companies. What none have unlike the US are hugely expensive parasitic middlemen HMO. Insurance Companies ripping of the customer before they even get near to a Dr. France 11% GDP rated No1. US 16% GDP no 37th should tell you all you need to know.
davijeph 1 week ago
@davijeph "...37th should tell you all you need to know. " Is that right?
How about Income per capita....
USA 47,200
UK 34,800
Canada 39,400
It appears that in the USA, we can take our extra income per capita, buy top grade health insurance, and still have shitloads left for other things.
You socialists just can't stand it getting your assses kicked in productivity, and income per capita, since America was founded.
Nice try fabian socialist.
smoochy999 1 week ago
@smoochy999 "You socialists just can't stand it getting your assses kicked" etc etc. America became the worlds leading industrial power about 100 years ago. This power was build on having a vast new land full of abundant natural resources and a massive influx of cheap immigrant labour. Nothing wrong with that but don't kid yourself it was created by a free people in a private enterprise paradise it was not It was build on the backs of slaves and the destruction of the indigenous tribes.
davijeph 1 week ago
@smoochy999
Top Facts
The top 1% of Americans own as much wealth as the bottom 95% percent.
That does not leave that much for the other 95%. Very few Brits have nothing but a great likeness for most things America however few envy you your heath system which lets so many live in fear of medical costs. BTW what is a Fabien Socalist?
davijeph 1 week ago
@davijeph - Top facts
Top 1% income earners of the world= $34K
more than 94% of American's in the top 1% income earners of the world.
You socialists (especially you fabians) just can't stand it!!!!!
Ohhhhhhh we live in so much fear of medical costs in America, while we drive our SUV's, (with cheap gas, 1/2 of uk), and drive to our nice homes (not apartments). Life sooooo sucks!!!!!!
Blahahahahahahaha! You crack me up with the fear mongering fabian socialist. Nice typo hide.newone?
smoochy999 1 week ago
@smoochy999 Being a democratic, capitalist, liberal, socialist and maybe even a fabian socialist but until you explain what that is I cannot know if I'm one or not. I know I'm not a parasite like you and I know unlike most Americans I have never feared the cost of health care. I know when I'm driving my very economical US/Japanese made car it's not costing me a fortune to run and I'm not harming the environment. I know many US citizens go bankrupt paying healthcare bills. I know you're a cunt.
davijeph 1 week ago
@davijeph - ooooooohh.....a beater driving environMENTALis old man fabian socialist brit twit who used the "c" word. That's a new one on me. Guess I touched a nerve. Blahahahahahaahahahahaha!
Ya know dickhead, in America, we reserve the "c" word for a very small select group of female individuals of questionable character. I don't think I fit the mold.
Just another indicator of just how clueless you are jagoff.
Blahahahahahahahahah!
smoochy999 1 week ago
@smoochy999 The only nerve that seems too have been struck is yours. If you cannot take it don't give. "Ya know dickhead, in America, we reserve the "c" word for a very small select group of female individuals of questionable character. I don't think I fit the hold." You fit it to a T.
davijeph 1 week ago
@smoochy999 Looking at income per capita is a bullshit stat, which doesn't look at nominal values. Looking at the most recent IMF 2011 numbers based on GDP (nominal) per capita, the U.S. is $48,147, while Canada is $51,147. So there is no 'extra' income. Not to mention that Millions in your country can't afford insurance, let along healthcare treatment.
Calling us socialist is smoke screens and mirrors, when your middle class in disappearing and your have NOTS are going through the roof.
MadHabber93 1 week ago
@MadHabber93 .....hmm....so now my stats are bullshit? Interesting how you socialists like to play the numbers/stats game.
So explain to me how nominal values play in to your 37th in the world bullshit stat that you fucking idiots like to hang your shit hats on????
Last I checked, Americans had more that 70% of the worlds top 1% wage earners. Doesn't exactly point to, "have NOTS are going through the roof." Now does it?
Calling you socialists not smoke and mirrors, its what itis.
smoochy999 1 week ago
@smoochy999 Who gives a fuck that you have a lot of millionaires. What's that, like a few thousand people?? Meanwhile, Millions of your countrymen can't afford healthcare, a decent home, the list goes on. ANd I never quoted the WHO study, but thanks for nothing on that one.
For nominal values, did you read the fucking link and why they are MORE important dipshit?? Fucking rookie.
MadHabber93 1 week ago
@MadHabber93 -guess I struck another nerve in another socialist douchebag.
What a pussy! You and your socialistic one sided interpretation of the numbers. All you fucks are pathetic. Go fuck yourself jagoff.
good grief!
smoochy999 1 week ago
@smoochy999 Oh, now don't go and pout like that smooch. Just because I exposed the truth to you. And again, I vote for the Conservative party, so your labelling means fuck all. Good grief.
MadHabber93 1 week ago
@MadHabber93
Moron, we have Socialist Programs to take care of our Fucking Poor!!!!
They get Free Medical and Homes and Food you Ignorant Piece of Shit!!!!
Why the Hell do you think we are Broke, because we support half of the People in this Country you Ignorant Moron!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 week ago
@Osambasucks2 Never said you didn't have social programs DICKHEAD!! And there are millions of your countrymen that DON'T qualify for medicaide. THerefore, MILLIONS simply go without care or have to take loans to pay for it or just go bankrupt. Your broke because you spend Trillions on a false war, while Millions go without care in your country. MORON!!!
MadHabber93 1 week ago
@MadHabber93
Ass Wipe. it is called WELFARE....Uhhhh Duh Moron!!!!!!
No 0ne goes with out Health Care in My Country Ass Wipe, we even pay for the Illegals You Ignorant Piece of Shit!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 week ago
@Osambasucks2 You are one dumb fuck. THere are Millions in your country that DON'T qualify for welfare that still CAN'T afford insurance nor healthcare treatment without insurance. They therefore forgo going to a doctor at ALL.
"Uninsured people are almost three times as likely to report going without medical care as insured people, particularly preventive screenings and care for chronic conditions"
aetnaDOTcom/about-aetna-insurance/public-policy-perspectives/uninsured.html
MadHabber93 1 week ago
@MadHabber93
Ass Hole they are all on Government Assistance, read the Paper or watch the News you Ignorant Shit Head!!!!
If you Work in America you Work for what you Need, we don't believe in Socialist Government Hand outs you Socialist Shit Head!!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 week ago
@Osambasucks2 Google Americans going without healthcare and EDUCATE YOURSELF you STUPID FUCK!!!!!!!!
And btw, you are contradicting yourself. On one side of your mouth you are claiming 'we don't believe in socialist gov't hand outs' while on the other side of your mouth in your post earlier you say 'we have socialist programs'.
Which one is it MORON???!!!!!
MadHabber93 1 week ago
@MadHabber93
You Stupid Fuck, there are No Americans or Illegals in America that can't walk in and get treatment you Stupid Lying Ignorant Socialist Canuck!!!!!!
Wow are you one Stupid Fucking Dumb Socialist Canuck....LOL....Moron!!!!!
And yes we do have way too many Socialist Programs that are Killing this Country you Ignorant Fool, we sure the Hell don't need another Shitty Socialist Program to suck up more Money Ass Wipe!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 week ago
@Osambasucks2 I'm not talking ER treatment you IGNORANT FUCK!!! You are only guaranteed ER care, not chronic care. Try getting cancer treatment in an ER. That's why, according to something called a STUDY, 2 million American cancer patients had to forgo needed treatment because they could not longer AFFORD it. These are patients WITH insurance too you fuck. Google it and EDUCATE YOURSELF.
MadHabber93 1 week ago
@MadHabber93
You Ignorant Fuck, that Er treatment is Health Care you Stupid Fuck!!!!
People with terminal Cancer get SSI you Ignorant Fuck!!!!!
You should worry about all the Bullshit in your own Country you Ignorant Socialist Fuck!!!!
People in the USA are just fine with what we have Ass Wipe, that is why 70% of Americans just said NO to Osambas Socialist Health Care Ass Hole!!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 week ago
@Osambasucks2 No, ER treatment is not TOTAL healthcare idiot. All they are obligated to do is stabalize you. That's it. Any further chronic treatment does NOT have to be provided if not life saving. FUck man, you don't even know your own countries system. Look it up you IGNORANT IDIOT!!
You are also too stupid to realize that Obamacare is not even Socialized healthcare.
But hey, keep posting. You just keep embarrassing yourself. ASSHOLE!!
MadHabber93 1 week ago
@MadHabber93
Wrong Ass Hole, we have Walk in Centers that are also considered the ER, it is their Job to take care of anyone who walks through the Door!!!!
But then you don't Fucking Live here so you Don't Fucking Matter, you Stupid Ignorant Socialist Canuck!!!!
We The Free People of the USA do not want Osambas or your Shitty Socialism ASS HOLE!!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 week ago
@Osambasucks2 DO YOU EVEN FUCKING KNOW WHAT SOCIALISM IS! My God man. in Britain Obama is more right wing then most of the Conservative Party, or are you so narrow minded and ignorant that you don't know where Europe is? I'll give you a clue, it's next to the sandy place you are obsessed with invading is.
You sir is what is wrong with this world. You will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.
LordDrew112 1 week ago
@LordDrew112
Yep all good Americans know the Socialism Sucks, just look at the USSR! They Killed 7 Million of their Own People and then their Socialist Society Died!!!!
Or the best are the National Socialist Workers Party, Wow they were great, Huh???? Hell they only Killed 50 Million People!!
And Moron, Insane Hussein Osamba is a Lying Marxist Dictator! And in your Socialist Nanny State you are all a Bunch of Blind Socialist Britt Twits!!
You are what is Wrong in this World Moron!
Osambasucks2 1 week ago
@Osambasucks2 Wow - thanks for proving my point for me!
LordDrew112 1 week ago
@Osambasucks2 Here,since you are too stupid to use google:
August, 2010
"At least 2 million Americans whose cancer went into remission decided against getting recommended follow up treatment mostly because their health insurance wouldn’t fully cover it. That cost-cutting and life-threatening decision was made by one in six cancer “survivors” in the country, according to research published last week"
MadHabber93 1 week ago
@MadHabber93
Boo Hoo the People Decided, that means they didn't want it Ass Hole, just like I didn't want those Stupid Operations!!!!!
That is our Choice and that is why we all live in a FREE America you Ignorant Moron!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 week ago
@Osambasucks2 Tell me please (hopefully with the childish rantings) what do you see are the differences if any between communism, socialism and liberalism? What would your perfect Nation be like? What are your views on things like state education, state or federal minimum pay rates ditto health and safety regulations and enviomental laws and not forgetting abortion?
davijeph 1 week ago
@davijeph
Oh Looky it is a Little Britt Twit, they all Suck you Ignorant Britt Twit!!!!!
The USA had the Perfect Nation until the Liberals went Sooo far left that they are now Progressive Socialist Ass Holes, they get any further left they will be Nazis!!!!!!!!
State Education Sucks, they fill our Kids Heads with their Socialist Censored Liberal Lies!!!!
And that is Union Ran Education in this Country!!!!
Abortion is none of any body's business, except the 2 people involved!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 week ago
@Osambasucks2 We can agree on your last sentence. I assume when you say "The USA had the Perfect Nation until the Liberals went Sooo far left that they are now Progressive Socialist Ass Holes," you are referring to FDR and the "New Deal" but before that you had the civil war, 70 years of slavery and 140 years of racial oppression, the great depression with it's unemployment and poverty and for the American Indian almost racial extermination. Not much of a "Perfect Nation" for those?
davijeph 1 week ago
@davijeph
Yep FDR sure was a Progressive Socialist, and if it wasn't for WWII we would still be in a Depression!!!!
Gee Ass Hole, as it was the Britts Killed the Redman, and the French Enslaved them! Never mind those Racist Spaniards that Killed Millions of the Redmen and then took the Blackman for his Slave!!!! Then you Ignorant Britts did it again over in the South Seas and Australia!!!!! You Britts were good at Racial Extermination!!!!
Gee you just have to LOVE the Facts!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 week ago
@Osambasucks2 You are correct the Brit Empire did many shameful things which are well documented and acknowledged (but to keep the balance it did some good things to). The fact you cannot even bring yourself to admit that in its short history America like all Nations as dark side speaks volumes for your rose tinted view of US history.
davijeph 1 week ago
@davijeph If your statement is true "if it wasn't for WWII we would still be in a Depression!!!!" then please explain why after US Government had spend more tax payers dollars than at any time in its history it managed to emerge from wwii the most powerful and richest nation on the planet. Surely by your "logic" in spending so much on a social necessity like fighing a war you should have been broke like everyone else? "and I work only with Logic!!!" Only machines work only with logic.
davijeph 1 week ago
@davijeph
Moron just look at History, and I mean the Real History not your Socialist Censored Libtard Bullshit!!!!
Everything that FDR did just sent the USA further in to the Depression, that is why Europe got out of the Depression Years before the USA did you Blind Moron!!!!
Osambasucks2 6 days ago
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@davijeph
50% OF MEDICARE ADVANTAGE USERS TO BE DROPPED
Medicare's own actuary has reported that 50% of all Medicare Advantage users will lose their coverage within 5 years, thanks to the millions of dollars cut from Medicare to pay for ObamaCare – more than one half billion dollars in all!
Osambasucks2 6 days ago
@davijeph
Yep the things that all you Britt Twits did surpass any thing the USA has done!!!!
But yet you won;t admit that your Socialist Europe started all the Bullshit you are trying to Blame the USA for!!!!
Osambasucks2 6 days ago
@Osambasucks2 Your views on the US state education system would imply you where given some sort of none state education which in free societies like the US, Canada or the UK is perfectly OK but the way you use English even American English would indicate however much they spend on your private education they were robbed.
davijeph 1 week ago
@davijeph
Moron, the English lanuge is not Logical, and I work only with Logic!!!!
But we all can see that you are just an Ignorant Troll, you Stupid Britt Twit!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 week ago
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@davijeph He clearly proves it in his reply to this comment: 'lanuge'
He also doesn't know how to turn on spell check on his computer.
minimatt37 1 week ago
@Osambasucks2 OMG! DUDE please tell me you are trolling! NAZIS ARE ON THE RIGHT!
LordDrew112 1 week ago
@LordDrew112
Yep you sure are a Ignorant Britt Twit!!!!
The national Socialists are Far Left with all you Socialist Bastards!!!!!
You can't have 2 of the same thing at each end of a Scale you Ignorant Britt Twit!!!!
Osambasucks2 6 days ago
@Osambasucks2 NATIONAL SOCIALISM AND FASCISM ARE ON THE RIGHT!!!!! My God man, you know nothing of how the world works.
LordDrew112 6 days ago
@LordDrew112
Ass Hole I see that you don't know what a Fucking Scale is!!!!
On the Far Left we have Total Government!
And on the Far right we have No Government!!!!
@ different things on each end of the scale!!!!
Yep all you Socialists are just Nazis in disguise!!!!
Osambasucks2 6 days ago
@LordDrew112
You see this Stupid Socialist Britt Twit, he tries to spread his Shitty Socialist Bullshit, but We the People of the USA all know better!!!!
Your Socialist Censored Political Scale is not used here in the USA you Stupid Socialist Britt Twit!
We use a Real Scale that is Based on Logic, not your Socialist Censored Lies!!!!
Osambasucks2 6 days ago
@Osambasucks2 You are one delusional fucknut. You live Free??? Bwahahahaha
And WRONG assHOLE, walk in clinics also DO NOT have to treat you without payment. Fuck you are a STUUUUUUUUUPPPPPIIIDDDDDD IGNORANT FUCK!!!
Ignorance is bliss sunshine.
MadHabber93 1 week ago
@MadHabber93
No Shit Ass Hole, here in America Everyone is expected to PAY their OWN way ASS HOLE!!!!
We are not a Socialist Country and We the People of the USA do not want YOUR SHITTY SOCIALISM!!!!
So you can keep your SHITTY SOCIALISM & WE WILL KEEP OUR FREEDOM ASS HOLE!!!!!!
Osambasucks2 1 week ago