I think you all are not getting the point here. Old folks can only do so much farming. You can't eat money. If there are no young people to grow food, then all the money in the world won't keep you fed.
Nrang- Having the right to practice the religion of your choice (or not practice) doesn't mean you have the right not to be offended. That is what free society is all about. You also don't have the right to legislate your beliefs for everyone else, and this is good for the non-religious AND religious alike. Things like blasphemy laws go not only against the ideas of free speech, but the ideals of progressive western civilization from which you yourself benefit.
The welfare state is the problem, not lack of love or whatever hippie bullshit. Stop welfare. Parents will need kids to support them, thus parents will have more kids.
@JulianThePhilosopher Kids are a cash drain and there's no guarantee they will support them in the future. If you eliminate Social Security the only choice is have NO kids and put every dollar you can into savings.
@videoguy604 Although there is no guarantee that kids will support them in old age. Rational people will have more kids, so the likelyhood of 1 kid looking after them is higher. A good example is Greece, although they have good retirement benefits, hey have one of the fastest declining populations.
@JulianThePhilosopher Smarter to save all the money you would have spent on raising kids and have the money to care for yourself. The kids may support or may not, but money will never let you down.
The solution isn't to try to compete with the faithful by outbreeding them. The solution is to corrupt and undermine their faith so that they will reproduce less, and if failing that, corrupt their children's religious upbringing.
@videoguy604 So attacking people's religion is ok huh? You do realize that is a crime don't you, you can go to prison for it, not to mention it being morally repugnant.
@nrang1 Sorry Charlie, I'm an American Citizen, I've got the FIRST AMENDMENT to back me up. I can attack people's religion all I want, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. First Amendment trumps your concept of blasphemy. It ain't a crime in any way, I can march down Main Street attacking people's religion. Not a single thing you can legally do to stop me, the word "blasphemy" doesn't exist in U.S. law...
@videoguy604 You forget this is youtube with its own community guidelines that the 1st ammendment does not apply too, btw "charlie" you agreed to abide by them when you signed up, ergo you are in breach of those rules and people could report you for hate speech.
@nrang1 You mean the Youtube that allows theamazingatheist to make his videos, along with Thunderf00t... And my how you are retreating from your threat of prison... Don't you hate the fact that I don't have one iota of fear of prison, because I've got the First Amendment to back me up...
@videoguy604 You could be arrested if you step outside of the US and talk that way, theamazingatheist and Thunderf00t have been reported to youtube many times, many of their videos have been taken down, who is retreating?
@nrang1 Don't you just hate how George Washington & Ben Franklin kicked your ass and made that First Amendment the rule of low over that land that USED to be your colony, but ain't anymore. And then we saved your asses twice, from your attitude, I think that was a mistake.
@videoguy604 If you force it on others in my country you will be arrested, i don't want anything, your not that important to me, simply stating facts, your a hateful child.
@nrang1 It really frosts your britches that I can say what I want and I'm protected by Constitutional Law to say what I want, doesn't it??? After all, you threatened me with prison, until I pointed out that it was a toothless threat...
@nrang1 Yep, you thought you could threaten me with prison, but I let your threat get crushed against the granite surface of the 1st amendment. Got any more threats?
@videoguy604 I can threaten you with prison if you come to my country, you will go to prison, i m giving you advice here not threatening you, if you talk in a hateful way about a persons race or religion you will be arrested and prosecuted, lol, you think i care that much about some child like man on youtube? ROFL.
@nrang1 So why are the very loud British atheists Richard Dawkins and Steven Hawkings still as free as birds? Not only is your threat toothless against people like me who are OUTSIDE your jurisdiction, you can't even do it to your own. Looks like you don't really have the power you think you have, against your own citizens subject to your own law....
@videoguy604 There is a difference between respectful critisism and hate speech that incites hatred, you talk of corrupting Christian youth that is a comment that incites hatred and or violence, don't worry there are many people in jail for their hate speech, if you don't believe me come take a trip and try it out.
@nrang1 I think I'll stay under the jurisdiction of the First Amendment, where I can say anything I want about religion and there's nothing you can legally do to stop me.
Here here. It's a shame that so many of the very same religious conservatives who go on and on about "defending freedom" don't seem to be so keen on defending it when it's not convenient for them.
@videoguy604 The end result of the 1st Amendment being that absolute and having a democratic system, and having open borders is America becoming a Muslim country. Part of me will be laughing my ass off seeing you getting beaten to a pulp by towel toting police on that day, but the other part of me will be crying because dumb shits like you put me in the same position.
@videoguy604 They are for now, but given that the Archbishop of Canterbury is already making backroom deals with proponents of Sharia Law, in a couple decades (assuming those old kooks are still alive by then), they'll probably be running for the nearest caucasian run country with freedom of speech with their gimpy little monkey-offspring tails between their legs. Not that you would understand how this will happen given you don't give a shit about the future, ass.
@videoguy604 The 1st Amendment, when properly understood, becomes little more than an excuse for assholes to avoid consequences for their actions, which is one of the reasons why I think it's wearing a bit thin and should be limited a little bit. Not that I'd want to threaten a lowly pissant like you with violence, you wouldn't be worth busting a knuckle over.
@videoguy604 What frosts most people is that your sort are too stupid to realize that your words are equally as dangerous, if not more dangerous than an army of suicide bombers. Terrorists can kill many, but only a pathological ideologue, pushing a bankrupt philosophy with the fervor of a religious zealot, can truly destroy a nation, though naturally this is an incremental process that isn't observed immediately after the fact like a suicide bombing usually is.
@videoguy604 One of the reasons why I am always embarrassed to admit that I'm an American to friends living in Europe is because of numb skull twits like you who think that the 1st Amendment entitles you to talk endlessly without having a single clue as to what you are talking about. The fact that you can do something does not mean that you should. Hitler could kill millions, but his ability did not equal justification.
@videoguy604 I think everybody needs to read this comment very closely, because this is essentially what is killing off western culture, good old fashioned mongrel based communism. I've got news for you bucko, in America we also have a right to educate our own children via homeschooling and private schools. You're pathetic breed of parasites will have died off long before you could hope to corrupt any of us.
I think you all are not getting the point here. Old folks can only do so much farming. You can't eat money. If there are no young people to grow food, then all the money in the world won't keep you fed.
userunavailable3095 1 year ago
Videoguy- I couldn't agree more.
Nrang- Having the right to practice the religion of your choice (or not practice) doesn't mean you have the right not to be offended. That is what free society is all about. You also don't have the right to legislate your beliefs for everyone else, and this is good for the non-religious AND religious alike. Things like blasphemy laws go not only against the ideas of free speech, but the ideals of progressive western civilization from which you yourself benefit.
melnorme1 1 year ago
The welfare state is the problem, not lack of love or whatever hippie bullshit. Stop welfare. Parents will need kids to support them, thus parents will have more kids.
JulianThePhilosopher 1 year ago
@JulianThePhilosopher Kids are a cash drain and there's no guarantee they will support them in the future. If you eliminate Social Security the only choice is have NO kids and put every dollar you can into savings.
videoguy604 1 year ago
@videoguy604 Although there is no guarantee that kids will support them in old age. Rational people will have more kids, so the likelyhood of 1 kid looking after them is higher. A good example is Greece, although they have good retirement benefits, hey have one of the fastest declining populations.
JulianThePhilosopher 1 year ago
@JulianThePhilosopher Smarter to save all the money you would have spent on raising kids and have the money to care for yourself. The kids may support or may not, but money will never let you down.
videoguy604 1 year ago
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011nathi 1 year ago
The solution isn't to try to compete with the faithful by outbreeding them. The solution is to corrupt and undermine their faith so that they will reproduce less, and if failing that, corrupt their children's religious upbringing.
videoguy604 1 year ago
@videoguy604 So attacking people's religion is ok huh? You do realize that is a crime don't you, you can go to prison for it, not to mention it being morally repugnant.
nrang1 1 year ago
@nrang1 Sorry Charlie, I'm an American Citizen, I've got the FIRST AMENDMENT to back me up. I can attack people's religion all I want, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. First Amendment trumps your concept of blasphemy. It ain't a crime in any way, I can march down Main Street attacking people's religion. Not a single thing you can legally do to stop me, the word "blasphemy" doesn't exist in U.S. law...
videoguy604 1 year ago
@videoguy604 You forget this is youtube with its own community guidelines that the 1st ammendment does not apply too, btw "charlie" you agreed to abide by them when you signed up, ergo you are in breach of those rules and people could report you for hate speech.
nrang1 1 year ago
@nrang1 You mean the Youtube that allows theamazingatheist to make his videos, along with Thunderf00t... And my how you are retreating from your threat of prison... Don't you hate the fact that I don't have one iota of fear of prison, because I've got the First Amendment to back me up...
videoguy604 1 year ago
@videoguy604 You could be arrested if you step outside of the US and talk that way, theamazingatheist and Thunderf00t have been reported to youtube many times, many of their videos have been taken down, who is retreating?
nrang1 1 year ago
@nrang1 Don't you just hate how George Washington & Ben Franklin kicked your ass and made that First Amendment the rule of low over that land that USED to be your colony, but ain't anymore. And then we saved your asses twice, from your attitude, I think that was a mistake.
videoguy604 1 year ago
@videoguy604 I m not getting into your childish pissing match, you are pathetic.
nrang1 1 year ago
@nrang1 And doesn't it speak a lot that you WISH you could arrest me for my opinion. Doesn't it frost your britches that you find out that you can't?
videoguy604 1 year ago
@videoguy604 If you force it on others in my country you will be arrested, i don't want anything, your not that important to me, simply stating facts, your a hateful child.
nrang1 1 year ago 2
@nrang1 It really frosts your britches that I can say what I want and I'm protected by Constitutional Law to say what I want, doesn't it??? After all, you threatened me with prison, until I pointed out that it was a toothless threat...
videoguy604 1 year ago
@videoguy604 Pathetic.
nrang1 1 year ago 2
@nrang1 Yep, you thought you could threaten me with prison, but I let your threat get crushed against the granite surface of the 1st amendment. Got any more threats?
videoguy604 1 year ago
@videoguy604 I can threaten you with prison if you come to my country, you will go to prison, i m giving you advice here not threatening you, if you talk in a hateful way about a persons race or religion you will be arrested and prosecuted, lol, you think i care that much about some child like man on youtube? ROFL.
nrang1 1 year ago
@nrang1 So why are the very loud British atheists Richard Dawkins and Steven Hawkings still as free as birds? Not only is your threat toothless against people like me who are OUTSIDE your jurisdiction, you can't even do it to your own. Looks like you don't really have the power you think you have, against your own citizens subject to your own law....
videoguy604 1 year ago
@videoguy604 There is a difference between respectful critisism and hate speech that incites hatred, you talk of corrupting Christian youth that is a comment that incites hatred and or violence, don't worry there are many people in jail for their hate speech, if you don't believe me come take a trip and try it out.
nrang1 1 year ago
@nrang1 I think I'll stay under the jurisdiction of the First Amendment, where I can say anything I want about religion and there's nothing you can legally do to stop me.
videoguy604 1 year ago
@videoguy604
Here here. It's a shame that so many of the very same religious conservatives who go on and on about "defending freedom" don't seem to be so keen on defending it when it's not convenient for them.
melnorme1 1 year ago
@videoguy604 The end result of the 1st Amendment being that absolute and having a democratic system, and having open borders is America becoming a Muslim country. Part of me will be laughing my ass off seeing you getting beaten to a pulp by towel toting police on that day, but the other part of me will be crying because dumb shits like you put me in the same position.
hellsunicorn 1 year ago
@videoguy604 They are for now, but given that the Archbishop of Canterbury is already making backroom deals with proponents of Sharia Law, in a couple decades (assuming those old kooks are still alive by then), they'll probably be running for the nearest caucasian run country with freedom of speech with their gimpy little monkey-offspring tails between their legs. Not that you would understand how this will happen given you don't give a shit about the future, ass.
hellsunicorn 1 year ago
@videoguy604 The 1st Amendment, when properly understood, becomes little more than an excuse for assholes to avoid consequences for their actions, which is one of the reasons why I think it's wearing a bit thin and should be limited a little bit. Not that I'd want to threaten a lowly pissant like you with violence, you wouldn't be worth busting a knuckle over.
hellsunicorn 1 year ago
@videoguy604 What frosts most people is that your sort are too stupid to realize that your words are equally as dangerous, if not more dangerous than an army of suicide bombers. Terrorists can kill many, but only a pathological ideologue, pushing a bankrupt philosophy with the fervor of a religious zealot, can truly destroy a nation, though naturally this is an incremental process that isn't observed immediately after the fact like a suicide bombing usually is.
hellsunicorn 1 year ago
@videoguy604 One of the reasons why I am always embarrassed to admit that I'm an American to friends living in Europe is because of numb skull twits like you who think that the 1st Amendment entitles you to talk endlessly without having a single clue as to what you are talking about. The fact that you can do something does not mean that you should. Hitler could kill millions, but his ability did not equal justification.
hellsunicorn 1 year ago
@videoguy604 I think everybody needs to read this comment very closely, because this is essentially what is killing off western culture, good old fashioned mongrel based communism. I've got news for you bucko, in America we also have a right to educate our own children via homeschooling and private schools. You're pathetic breed of parasites will have died off long before you could hope to corrupt any of us.
hellsunicorn 1 year ago 2
@hellsunicorn And after they leave your home, us secularists have the right to corrupt the way you raised them and show them your god is just a lie.
videoguy604 1 year ago