I am only stating those two empires because they had the largest impact on the world and they were the first true Dynastic empires of the two peoples.
Also if you must argue about who's faith has a claim on Judah you could also look a Zoroastrianism. It was the official religion of the Persian empire and was spread all through out the Persian empire, every one that existed. The Achaemenid Empire lasted for 214 years the first Caliphate empire, founded by Muhammad, only lasted 128 years. So if you look at it this way the the Zoroastrians have just as much of a claim as anyone else.
Ever since its original founding (which did not include the region of Philistine, today called Palestine), it has been attacked, torn apart, put together and consumed by ever other nation to exist with in that region of the world. This includes but is not limited to the Babylonian, Assyrian, Hittite, and Egyptian empires. The nation of Judah has almost no military history besides that of the conquest of region six to seven thousand years ago.
As far as I can tell the real issue here is a lack of understanding of the politics of the time when all of this was put in place. War between the nation of Judah and the middle east was not because of hatred for the Jews or because of their belief of one god but rather because of there access to the Mediterranean sea. It all started with economic and political gain and has continued ever since. The first strike was from Babylon in the east seeking to attack Egypt, with whom Judah was allied.
People, people, what is with all this hate. Most of what is being put forth here is not much more than political rhetoric. Why do we all have to argue about this. It is true that not all Jews that came to the holy land after WW1 were full blooded Jews and some of them were. However the migrations back to the Holy land started well before that, around the first crusades when the Jewish peoples were being persecuted by the crusader Christians. Why do we have to fight so much about so little?
@Lady2 I have already heard that Falsetinian proPALganda shiite. The Khazar story is fake story and you know it.Palestine always was the land of Israel and Jews always lived there. Arabs origin is Saudi Arabia desert and not Palestine. The occupied Palestine and many other invaders.That doesn't make Palestine theirs. Arabs conqueredhuge countries and now they have 22 states.They have nothing to do with Palestine. Christianity and Islam are only faiths. Judaism is a faith and nation together
@MrGiddeonn Even your own JEWISH HISTORIANS have come out and told the truth about your people. I learned it from THEM not Palestinians! You zionist jews of Europe have been running a scam on the world for the last 100 years. You people are nothing but a huge band of thieving gypsies. The world has finally caught on to your lies. GAME OVER ZIOTARD! Go peddle your lies to someone who does not already know who are. I AM NOT THAT PERSON!
Palestine is Israel and Arab name ! There has been never an Arab state on Palestine. Arabs never been called Palestinians but since 1974 and since. That's what happens when clown nerds don't know history! By the way, in 1709 there hadn't been Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and not even the USA !
Chess Grandmaster BOBBY FISCHER put it best "Fuck the Jews, they mutilate their children" Fischer was NOT Jewish. He wrote a letter to Encyclopedia Judaica stating "I AM NOT JEWISH AND NEVER EVER WAS, AND I AM NOT CIRCUMCISED" The stinking Jews wanted a feather in the cap and said he was a "Self-Hating Jew"? They stole everything he had and then vilified him, like they did Quadafi, Saddam, Osama, MusaDegh, and now the swines want Persia. When will you American Assholes wake up to these scumbags?
There is a detailed explanation of who the Khazars were in Arthur Koestlers book "The 13th Tribe" He himself was an Ashkenazim Khazar descended Jew. The illustrious Ashkenazim Jew turned Christian BENJAMIN FREEDMAN (original name FRIEDMAN) exposed these Khazars big time on a 2 LP record put out in 1961 and the Mainstream Media cleverly hid it, up until 7 years ago. The Internet has this plastered all over the place. Go to IAmTheWitness dot, KeepTheTruthAlive dot ZionCrimeFactory dot and wake UP!
FACT: the word "Jew" was NOT included in the First English Dictionary (Ben Johnson Edition 1797) Martin Sheen was spot-on. These Zionist so-called "Jews" are NOT Semites, the real Semites are the Arabs! These people are barbaric Turkic Mongols originally called "Khazars" who inhabited the land between the Black and Caspian Seas. Their language is Yiddish, a bastardized German, ancient Khazar and Slav. These Khazars adopted Judaism, conned by Talmudic Pharisees in 740AD. What's the movies name?
@hbrookins1 there has never been a land or place any where in the Arab world called "israel" ever in history until the European zionists went there and took the Palestinian people's country PALESTINE from them by force after WW2 and started calling the place "israel". Arab people will never accept this word. The country is and always shall be PALESTINE.
@batlady2 ; False, my dear Arab. The Jews always sited in what is called by the occupiers "Palestine", at least 2000 years before the first Arab came from the desert and conquered the land the first time.Jews always lived in Palestine for 4300 years linking themselves to their land. Arabs conquered half of the old world by force in the name of Islam. Is that make them the owners of the globe. Unfortunately Muslims think it is. That's why Muslims are talking about Jihad!
@MrGiddeonn False, Arab jews lived in the area yes but only made up less than 5% of the population of Palestine the rest were christians and muslims. The zionists who came from Europe after WW2 are not Arab Jews nor related to Arabs or the area at all. They followed the religion of Judasim because they converted to it in Europe. They were and still are nothing but European colonists and are owed nothing in Palestine at all. You are ignorant of historic facts.
@batlady2 Arab Jews are Jews and nor Arabs. 5%? when? after the Arab large invasion into the land of Israel in late 19th century beginning of 20th. Lot of the Christians weren't Arabs then. The Zionists who came from Europe are Jews as the "Arab" Jews. Many of them came before WWII. Try to invent another history but put lies on it, because you're gonna lose again.
@MrGiddeonn The European occupiers of Palestine came after WW1. These are not real Jews. But are CONVERTS to judaesm. They are the Khazars. They are not related to any one in the holy land. Just because you believe in a religion that began in Palestine does not mean you own Palestine. Christian faith started in Palestine too but does that mean every Christian in the world is related to the first Christians of Palestine? NO THEY ARE NOT! and neither are European so called "jews".
@batlady2 I have already heard that Falsetinian proPALganda shiite. The Khazar story is fake story and you know it.Palestine always was the land of Israel and Jews always lived there. Arabs origin is Saudi Arabia desert and not Palestine. The occupied Palestine and many other invaders.That doesn't make Palestine theirs. Arabs conqueredhuge countries and now they have 22 states. They have nothing to do with Palestine. Christianity and Islam are only faiths. Judaism is a faith and nation together
@batlady2 I have already heard that Falsetinian proPALganda shiite. The Khazar story is fake story and you know it.Palestine always was the land of Israel and Jews always lived there. Arabs origin is Saudi Arabia desert and not Palestine. The occupied Palestine and many other invaders.That doesn't make Palestine theirs. Arabs conqueredhuge countries and now they have 22 states.They have nothing to do with Palestine. Christianity and Islam are only faiths. Judaism is a faith and nation together
@drrjtco - Hollywood is OWNED by Jewish people and Zionists, sit down, It is ANTI SEMETIC to even have a land called Israel why? because Judaism is not allowed to have a jewish state.
The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands.This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people
Le Peuple Juif,February 8,1919
We have exterminated the property owners in Russia.We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America
The Jew,December 1925,Zinobit
Some call it Marxism — I call it Judaism
Rabbi S.Wise,May 5,1935
Read this book for free on internet to understand the whole truth....WHO IS ESAU-EDOM
What offends me are all those righteous religious people that can not live up to that which they claim to believe in.
The jews say they were forced out in an exile by their god. There are certain conditions to the end of that exile, one being their phony holocaust which requires all the dead to be burned. They also must have their messiah somewhere, living in peace, before they can call the exile over. Do you see any of these prophetic jew events as real, on which other planet?
@aknames Yes America was occupied but do you see in America today check points where Native Americans are forced to go through? Do you see Native Americans being evicted from their private homes? Do you see US military dropping bombs on Native American reservations? THAT IS WHAT THE FALSE "STATE" OF "ISRAEL" IS DOING TO THE NATIVE PEOPLE OF THAT PLACE TO DAY AS WE SPEAK. That is the difference. Its not something that happened 100 years ago. ITS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN FRONT OF THE WORLD!
@aknames Had I been around back when the native people of America were being slaughtered & ethnically cleansed from their homeland I would have stood up against that too. But I was not there. I AM here today watching my money and name being used to do this to the Palestinian people who are helpless & innocent. This is a HOLOCAUST that is happening right now. NOT a hundred years ago. SO WE SHOULD ALL BE STANDING UP AGAINST IT NOW! NOT SUPPORTING IT! And thank you Aknames for agreeing.
@batlady2 Our power is so small compare theirs! But I do my best every day to help the Palestinian people! Who other than Israel using White-Phosphor against civilians? The is NOT OTHER! Israel only understand the word WAR!
@MrGiddeonn You clowns use the term anti Semitic so much nowadays that it no longer has any meaning. Anybody that points out historical facts that don't match Zionism is anti Semitic, anybody that questions Israel is anti Semitic, anybody that criticizes a Jew is anti Semitic, anti Semitic anti Semitic anti Semitic. If anything, your idiotic rhetoric will foster anti Semitism, try growing a brain.
@Frankenpalin Anti-Semitism grew up these days although some anti-Semites clown claim that they are only anti-Zionists. But you neglect to understand that Zionists are Jews who took their future in their own hand and not let the gentile rule them. I understand that the Jews success infuriates you and I can understand your feeling. It is more easy for your kind to differentiated between both. You should understand that it is your problem and your kind, only, Mr. Frankenstein!
@MrGiddeonn Zionism is a political movement you idiot, that's why there are so many Gentile Zionists. As far as the rest of your deluded supremacism, that's your problem.
@Frankenpalin Pro Zionist Jews and Christians are those who support Zionists. Zionists are those who come to live in Israel. Sorry. Frank, I have no prolem. It seems to me that you are the one with a problem. Israel can live with out you, but you can't live with out Israel (0;
@MrGiddeonn Whatever the fuck that means, the world would be a better place without Israel and according to the CIA, in 20 years, Israel could cease to exist as you know it if the Haredim are the only people having babies. Enjoy your stolen land while you can
Israel's rationale for reclaiming its 'homeland' that was allegedly promised to them by God is based on a fascinating, yet unverifiable,narrative written thousands of years ago in the Old Testament,which is not an historical document (unless you believe in burning bushes and parting seas).Zionists have fabricated their own history in order to support their enterprise which, otherwise, is exposed for the exceptionalist, discriminatory - and racist - 'ideology' (pathology?) that it really is!!
Setting aside the question as to whether or not "God" exists, to quote Hanan Ashrawi: "God is not a real estate agent." Also, those that believe that God promised Canaan/Palestine to Jews exclusively and they have the "right" to expel its native inhabitants must also believe that God is a racist and a fascist.
@straightshooterable "God is not a real estate agent." Good luck w that. Stupid people don't go to Heaven. The land was written to the Children of Israel (COI). Read the Quran 5:21 Moses said to COI:"Enter the Holy Land that God wrote to you." So how can you argue when the Quran confirms the ownership in writing? The answer is in the Quran but Muslims are too lost to figure it out. God help America if they ever found out the truth about who has the right over the land today in the eyes of God.
Inane response. Then again, perhaps you have no problem with believing in a "God" who is a racist and a fascist.
Apparently, you are also unaware of WWII and resulting international human rights law (e.g., the UN Charter, The Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Fourth Geneva Convention). If the 6 million Jews slaughtered by the Nazis could somehow rise from the dead, they would be the first to condemn Israel for its monstrous crimes against the Palestinians.
@straightshooterable I dont get it? why would God be a racist? first I am a Muslim, and I am only stating that is in the Quran. It says that God wrote the land for them. What is offensive about that, the Muslims claim God gave them Mecca? When you understand the scriptures and how it intersect with each other you will know Israel will rise again to become the Kingdom once was. The Story starts with Abraham... but too long to explain...
@kamalfansa You are one of their useful zidiots. Your koran was their work as well, if you would learn of its origin with an open mind you can clearly see that.
@kamalfansa YOu are a liar and you have mis qouted the Quran by taking out of context what it really says in that verse. YOU are NOT a MUSLIM. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT ANOTHER ZIONIST LIAR.
@straightshooterable If only the Torah claimed that the land belonged to the Children of Israel, I would be concerned. But when the Quran confirms the same point, you know then, Jews and Muslims both have the same real estate agent. On the other hand Christians were willing to give up the land for Caesar. Guess what, and it makes perfect sense to me :o)
@kamalfansa Did you read the whole Quraan or only the part you prefer ? The Jews (those Jews not todays) were the chosen ,later those Christians were the chosen and after that the Muslims (according to the Quraan)
@straightshooterable The point to make is those jews feel they have their gifted land from their god. Yet jew ignores the conditions and events listed as prophecies that must become true before they can invade anothers land. Do you see the jews messiah anywhere? No? No israel should exist then. Then there is their holocaust point, which according the jew-God, requires they all die from being burned. Not one death from a bullet, stabbing etc, will count for the 6 million holocaust myth. Jew liars
@straightshooterable The imperialist-colonialist Arab-Muslim occupiers are "native inhabitants"??
So how come under every village and town of those so-called "native inhabitants" lay the ruins of a Jewish village or town? How come the Al-Aqsa mosque of those "native inhabitants" is standing ON TOP of the ruins of the Jewish temple-mount and not Vice versa?
And how were those "poor natives" expelled? Were they just sitting at home drinking coffee when the Jews attacked - or did they attack first?
Its about time the truth is told it is palestine not Israel ! there were no 6 million Jews killed by Europeans .At that time there were few Jews ,its all made up by jews so pepole feel sorry for them there the evil of the world!!!!!!!
How were they ever allowed to get away with this? Probably because the Israelis are so confident that American politicians will never allow the truth to manifest itself. What hypocrites and cowards. You can smell the obnoxious miasma of primal terror.
@pappa6085 Actually, the territory was called Judaea and it belonged to the Romans who changed the name to the commonly accepted "Palaestina," the Greek variation on the original "Falasteen," the initial "f" changed to initial "p" according to the Greek phonetic system of the era. Herodotos is the first known to have recorded this form, "Palaestine," in his Histories c. 450BC. The Romans imitated the Greeks, that is why this form is used in the West. The natives call it Falasteen.
@jaydee1987 There had been no Israel since the Assyrians carried off the ten northern tribes to Assyria and destroyed the kingdom c. 740BC. The southern kingdom of Judaea remained, with the two tribes of Juda and Benjamin. Since then, the remaining Israelites have been known as Judaeans, which evolved into Jews in English. Judaea was also conquered and destroyed by Babylon c. 570BC. After that, the region was ruled by other nations.
And the United Jewish Kingdom under David and Solomon (bearing in mind there is no credible evidence that they ever existed) lasted a mere 22 years. The partial resurrection of Israel under the Maccabees who were controlled by Rome was equally brief. In fact, compared to that of Muslims and other rulers (e.g., Egypt and Rome), Jewish dominance in Canaan/Palestine was of minor, even insignificant, consequence.
@0088mohammed Not occupied, brutally stolen while most of the natives were put in prison camps and colonies. Meanwhile, Jewish supporters of the state of Israel (most Jews worldwide) used their vast wealth and connections to make war with all Muslims, and to hide thier murderous lies. Israel is a white supremacist racist state created by and for Jewish supremacists worldwide. Everyone should read Ilan Pappe's "The Ethic Cleansing Of Palestine".
@123decoeli The "native" Arabs that now called "Palestinians" has nothing to do with 1709 Palestine. Palestine refers to the land of Israel as the Roman conquerors and later European Christians meant to say. BTW, there is no "P" in Arabic, so how can a "people" call himself and "his land" in a letter that doesn't exist in his tongue and language?
@straightshooterable ; It is like aliens calling America Bamerica and claiming for originality ownership of the land ! The Romans called the land of Israel Palestine in order to spiritualy steal the land from the Jews, it has nothing to do with Arabs that never lived there, but small portion of them since the Islamic occupation in the 7th century. Any way, the Arab rejected the name Palestine until the Jews gave up that name and called their state Israel. Then they call the land Filistin.
@MrGiddeonn ; Why Filistin? Just because they couldn't pronounce "P"! That means that the Arabs carry the name that the conquerors gave while stealing the land from the Jews, while staying with the theft tag in their mouth. The now day Palestinian thieves still using that name knowing that people like you don't know history.
The region between the Jordan River and the Med. Sea was first referred to as "Palestine" by the Greek historian Herodotus ("the father of history") during the 5th century BCE.
In the 4th Century BCE, Aristotle made reference to the Dead Sea in his Meteorology. "Again if, as is fabled, there is a lake in Palestine...."
Jewish historian Josephus's (c.37-100 CE)The Jewish War, Antiquities of the Jews contains copious references to both "Palestine" and "Palestinians."
When the Muslim Arabs arrived in Palestine in the 7th century CE (and liberated its Jewish population, as they did later in southern Spain), they retained its administrative organization as it had been under the Romans and the Byzantines. They named the territory Djund Filastin. 19th century European textbooks refer to "Palestine," as did Theodor Herzl in his correspondence, the illegal 1917 Balfour Declaration and the League of Nations Class A British Mandate.
Seldom have I encountered such appalling and inexcusable ignorance of this subject.
You live in a Hasbara induced fantasy land. I suggest you do some elementary research using internationally respected, unbiased, thoroughly documented and foot noted scholarly sources.
In any event, I grow weary of this exchange. Your lack of knowledge renders you utterly unqualified to discuss the subject. This will be my final response to you. I will ignore your postings.
@straightshooterable You live in Falsetinian proPALganda fantasy land, so? You can't react properly to the facts, that's why you hide behind your sand.
@123decoeli Bulshit. Ilan Pappe is a delirious fruitcake with a Jewish Uncle Tom syndrome, who makes his living from and distorting history for anti-Semites.. What everyone should REALLY read are the next few articles - who can be found on Google:
1) "Solomonia: And the World is Lying / Ben-Dror Yemini"
@123decoeli B.S. Ilan Pappe is a delirious fruitcake with a Jewish Uncle Tom syndrome, who makes his living from distorting history for anti-Semites.. What everyone should REALLY read are the next few articles - who can be found on Google:
1) "Solomonia: And the World is Lying / Ben-Dror Yemini"
Read your history books Yasm2002. Jews prospered in Muslim countries, as do Christans today. Have you ever been to Jordan or Syria? Christians are part of the elite. As for the killings, it was European Christians who massacred Muslims and Jews. How quick we forget modern Israel is the result of Europeans killing millions of Jews - and this happened less than 70 years ago.
If we should recognize every country with its original frontiers to their original occupants, we should do a little more archeology and find the frontiers anatomycally modern humans drew after conquering what was originally owned by Neandertals. And stop there only if we discredit the claims that we actually interbred with them. What a nice work ahead! Enjoy it!
All history and religious books showing Israel ,,, jews in even saudia arabia,,,but when muslims kicked them from these countries and even from israel ,,, israel deleted ,,, ,, it is the time to get it back ... .. muslims even now kicking christians from that area..
1709 makes muslim happy because that was mohamad goal to remove nonmuslims and control all ..
if we go back to 1709 ,,it was no USA and no kuwait
Palestine! <3
ahlamsoboh 3 weeks ago
I am only stating those two empires because they had the largest impact on the world and they were the first true Dynastic empires of the two peoples.
MasterOfCydonia 1 month ago
Also if you must argue about who's faith has a claim on Judah you could also look a Zoroastrianism. It was the official religion of the Persian empire and was spread all through out the Persian empire, every one that existed. The Achaemenid Empire lasted for 214 years the first Caliphate empire, founded by Muhammad, only lasted 128 years. So if you look at it this way the the Zoroastrians have just as much of a claim as anyone else.
MasterOfCydonia 1 month ago
Ever since its original founding (which did not include the region of Philistine, today called Palestine), it has been attacked, torn apart, put together and consumed by ever other nation to exist with in that region of the world. This includes but is not limited to the Babylonian, Assyrian, Hittite, and Egyptian empires. The nation of Judah has almost no military history besides that of the conquest of region six to seven thousand years ago.
MasterOfCydonia 1 month ago
As far as I can tell the real issue here is a lack of understanding of the politics of the time when all of this was put in place. War between the nation of Judah and the middle east was not because of hatred for the Jews or because of their belief of one god but rather because of there access to the Mediterranean sea. It all started with economic and political gain and has continued ever since. The first strike was from Babylon in the east seeking to attack Egypt, with whom Judah was allied.
MasterOfCydonia 1 month ago
People, people, what is with all this hate. Most of what is being put forth here is not much more than political rhetoric. Why do we all have to argue about this. It is true that not all Jews that came to the holy land after WW1 were full blooded Jews and some of them were. However the migrations back to the Holy land started well before that, around the first crusades when the Jewish peoples were being persecuted by the crusader Christians. Why do we have to fight so much about so little?
MasterOfCydonia 1 month ago
@Lady2 I have already heard that Falsetinian proPALganda shiite. The Khazar story is fake story and you know it.Palestine always was the land of Israel and Jews always lived there. Arabs origin is Saudi Arabia desert and not Palestine. The occupied Palestine and many other invaders.That doesn't make Palestine theirs. Arabs conqueredhuge countries and now they have 22 states.They have nothing to do with Palestine. Christianity and Islam are only faiths. Judaism is a faith and nation together
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
@MrGiddeonn Even your own JEWISH HISTORIANS have come out and told the truth about your people. I learned it from THEM not Palestinians! You zionist jews of Europe have been running a scam on the world for the last 100 years. You people are nothing but a huge band of thieving gypsies. The world has finally caught on to your lies. GAME OVER ZIOTARD! Go peddle your lies to someone who does not already know who are. I AM NOT THAT PERSON!
batlady2 1 month ago
@pgg804a ; Each one has its own true, yours in a Falsetinian proPALganda shiite one !
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
So why is it called the "Holy Land" and why would anyone bother to make a map of this place?
bulbulinush 1 month ago
Palestine is Israel and Arab name ! There has been never an Arab state on Palestine. Arabs never been called Palestinians but since 1974 and since. That's what happens when clown nerds don't know history! By the way, in 1709 there hadn't been Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and not even the USA !
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
Chess Grandmaster BOBBY FISCHER put it best "Fuck the Jews, they mutilate their children" Fischer was NOT Jewish. He wrote a letter to Encyclopedia Judaica stating "I AM NOT JEWISH AND NEVER EVER WAS, AND I AM NOT CIRCUMCISED" The stinking Jews wanted a feather in the cap and said he was a "Self-Hating Jew"? They stole everything he had and then vilified him, like they did Quadafi, Saddam, Osama, MusaDegh, and now the swines want Persia. When will you American Assholes wake up to these scumbags?
gurubustercan 1 month ago
There is a detailed explanation of who the Khazars were in Arthur Koestlers book "The 13th Tribe" He himself was an Ashkenazim Khazar descended Jew. The illustrious Ashkenazim Jew turned Christian BENJAMIN FREEDMAN (original name FRIEDMAN) exposed these Khazars big time on a 2 LP record put out in 1961 and the Mainstream Media cleverly hid it, up until 7 years ago. The Internet has this plastered all over the place. Go to IAmTheWitness dot, KeepTheTruthAlive dot ZionCrimeFactory dot and wake UP!
gurubustercan 1 month ago 2
FACT: the word "Jew" was NOT included in the First English Dictionary (Ben Johnson Edition 1797) Martin Sheen was spot-on. These Zionist so-called "Jews" are NOT Semites, the real Semites are the Arabs! These people are barbaric Turkic Mongols originally called "Khazars" who inhabited the land between the Black and Caspian Seas. Their language is Yiddish, a bastardized German, ancient Khazar and Slav. These Khazars adopted Judaism, conned by Talmudic Pharisees in 740AD. What's the movies name?
gurubustercan 1 month ago 2
yeah.. the truth can be offensive.. Fuck Israel. Fuck Zionism. Free Palestine.
callofdutyaddict1000 1 month ago
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USRAEL DID 911
USRAEL DID 911
USRAEL DID 911
Wrothchild 1 month ago
and the map of Israel during king David and Solomon 1000 - 922 BC?
hbrookins1 1 month ago
@hbrookins1 there has never been a land or place any where in the Arab world called "israel" ever in history until the European zionists went there and took the Palestinian people's country PALESTINE from them by force after WW2 and started calling the place "israel". Arab people will never accept this word. The country is and always shall be PALESTINE.
batlady2 1 month ago 2
@batlady2 ; False, my dear Arab. The Jews always sited in what is called by the occupiers "Palestine", at least 2000 years before the first Arab came from the desert and conquered the land the first time.Jews always lived in Palestine for 4300 years linking themselves to their land. Arabs conquered half of the old world by force in the name of Islam. Is that make them the owners of the globe. Unfortunately Muslims think it is. That's why Muslims are talking about Jihad!
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
@MrGiddeonn False, Arab jews lived in the area yes but only made up less than 5% of the population of Palestine the rest were christians and muslims. The zionists who came from Europe after WW2 are not Arab Jews nor related to Arabs or the area at all. They followed the religion of Judasim because they converted to it in Europe. They were and still are nothing but European colonists and are owed nothing in Palestine at all. You are ignorant of historic facts.
batlady2 1 month ago
@batlady2 Arab Jews are Jews and nor Arabs. 5%? when? after the Arab large invasion into the land of Israel in late 19th century beginning of 20th. Lot of the Christians weren't Arabs then. The Zionists who came from Europe are Jews as the "Arab" Jews. Many of them came before WWII. Try to invent another history but put lies on it, because you're gonna lose again.
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
@MrGiddeonn The European occupiers of Palestine came after WW1. These are not real Jews. But are CONVERTS to judaesm. They are the Khazars. They are not related to any one in the holy land. Just because you believe in a religion that began in Palestine does not mean you own Palestine. Christian faith started in Palestine too but does that mean every Christian in the world is related to the first Christians of Palestine? NO THEY ARE NOT! and neither are European so called "jews".
batlady2 1 month ago
@batlady2 I have already heard that Falsetinian proPALganda shiite. The Khazar story is fake story and you know it.Palestine always was the land of Israel and Jews always lived there. Arabs origin is Saudi Arabia desert and not Palestine. The occupied Palestine and many other invaders.That doesn't make Palestine theirs. Arabs conqueredhuge countries and now they have 22 states. They have nothing to do with Palestine. Christianity and Islam are only faiths. Judaism is a faith and nation together
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
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@batlady2 I have already heard that Falsetinian proPALganda shiite. The Khazar story is fake story and you know it.Palestine always was the land of Israel and Jews always lived there. Arabs origin is Saudi Arabia desert and not Palestine. The occupied Palestine and many other invaders.That doesn't make Palestine theirs. Arabs conqueredhuge countries and now they have 22 states.They have nothing to do with Palestine. Christianity and Islam are only faiths. Judaism is a faith and nation together
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
More antisemitic propaganda from Hollywood
drrjtco 1 month ago
@drrjtco - Hollywood is OWNED by Jewish people and Zionists, sit down, It is ANTI SEMETIC to even have a land called Israel why? because Judaism is not allowed to have a jewish state.
SaeedMartinezRivera 1 month ago 2
@SaeedMartinezRivera You obviously haven't read the bible
drrjtco 1 month ago
The United States map doesn't show the state of Israel either. But it's there.
peyotecactus 1 month ago
Because the matter of fact is that there is no such thing israel. israel was made by Great Britain and the western powers in 1948.
alephalpha1 1 month ago
According to Newt. The Palestinians are an invented people!???
iiguns 1 month ago
Zionists were behind WW2. They put Germany into economic misery, and they put Hitler into power with their banking funding.
mrzack888 1 month ago
aye, blame god for your own racism and ethnocentrism.
that's right up there with, 'we were only following orders.'
vivisectmu 1 month ago
The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands.This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people
Le Peuple Juif,February 8,1919
We have exterminated the property owners in Russia.We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America
The Jew,December 1925,Zinobit
Some call it Marxism — I call it Judaism
Rabbi S.Wise,May 5,1935
Read this book for free on internet to understand the whole truth....WHO IS ESAU-EDOM
goldberg823 1 month ago
I'd put the map up and tell everyone who complains to B L O me.
triathlete007 1 month ago
"some people will find it offensive"
Everyone is so afraid to say it. JEWS!
WakingMajority 1 month ago
What offends me are all those righteous religious people that can not live up to that which they claim to believe in.
The jews say they were forced out in an exile by their god. There are certain conditions to the end of that exile, one being their phony holocaust which requires all the dead to be burned. They also must have their messiah somewhere, living in peace, before they can call the exile over. Do you see any of these prophetic jew events as real, on which other planet?
SlackerSlayer 1 month ago
What are USA? What are Israel? What are Australia? Occupied Country!
aknames 1 month ago
@aknames Yes, USA and Australia are occupied by zionist jews.
stopglobalswarming 1 month ago 2
@stopglobalswarming And they talk about freedom and democracy! And talk about terrorism.
aknames 1 month ago
@aknames Yes America was occupied but do you see in America today check points where Native Americans are forced to go through? Do you see Native Americans being evicted from their private homes? Do you see US military dropping bombs on Native American reservations? THAT IS WHAT THE FALSE "STATE" OF "ISRAEL" IS DOING TO THE NATIVE PEOPLE OF THAT PLACE TO DAY AS WE SPEAK. That is the difference. Its not something that happened 100 years ago. ITS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN FRONT OF THE WORLD!
batlady2 1 month ago
@batlady2 I totally agree.
aknames 1 month ago
@aknames Had I been around back when the native people of America were being slaughtered & ethnically cleansed from their homeland I would have stood up against that too. But I was not there. I AM here today watching my money and name being used to do this to the Palestinian people who are helpless & innocent. This is a HOLOCAUST that is happening right now. NOT a hundred years ago. SO WE SHOULD ALL BE STANDING UP AGAINST IT NOW! NOT SUPPORTING IT! And thank you Aknames for agreeing.
batlady2 1 month ago
@batlady2 Our power is so small compare theirs! But I do my best every day to help the Palestinian people! Who other than Israel using White-Phosphor against civilians? The is NOT OTHER! Israel only understand the word WAR!
aknames 1 month ago
@aknames YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT!
batlady2 1 month ago
Aaaaaah the stupidity of religions.. All religions are completely fucked.
xXMiB1Xx 1 month ago 2
tell-evil-zion
sweenigami 1 month ago 3
Someone should show this to Newt Gingrich
Frankenpalin 1 month ago 4
@Frankenpalin I'm sure Nazi Ron Paul showed him....... so what? Zionists say that Israel was created in 1948. Do you think that they lie?
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
@MrGiddeonn Only when they move their lips you stupid cunt. Calling Ron Paul a Nazi is fucking ignorant.
Frankenpalin 1 month ago
@Frankenpalin I call every anti-Semitic now days a Nazi. Have you problems?
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
@MrGiddeonn You clowns use the term anti Semitic so much nowadays that it no longer has any meaning. Anybody that points out historical facts that don't match Zionism is anti Semitic, anybody that questions Israel is anti Semitic, anybody that criticizes a Jew is anti Semitic, anti Semitic anti Semitic anti Semitic. If anything, your idiotic rhetoric will foster anti Semitism, try growing a brain.
Frankenpalin 1 month ago
@Frankenpalin Anti-Semitism grew up these days although some anti-Semites clown claim that they are only anti-Zionists. But you neglect to understand that Zionists are Jews who took their future in their own hand and not let the gentile rule them. I understand that the Jews success infuriates you and I can understand your feeling. It is more easy for your kind to differentiated between both. You should understand that it is your problem and your kind, only, Mr. Frankenstein!
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
@MrGiddeonn Zionism is a political movement you idiot, that's why there are so many Gentile Zionists. As far as the rest of your deluded supremacism, that's your problem.
Frankenpalin 1 month ago
@Frankenpalin Pro Zionist Jews and Christians are those who support Zionists. Zionists are those who come to live in Israel. Sorry. Frank, I have no prolem. It seems to me that you are the one with a problem. Israel can live with out you, but you can't live with out Israel (0;
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
@MrGiddeonn Whatever the fuck that means, the world would be a better place without Israel and according to the CIA, in 20 years, Israel could cease to exist as you know it if the Haredim are the only people having babies. Enjoy your stolen land while you can
Frankenpalin 1 month ago
@Frankenpalin RIGHT ON!
batlady2 1 month ago
Israel's rationale for reclaiming its 'homeland' that was allegedly promised to them by God is based on a fascinating, yet unverifiable,narrative written thousands of years ago in the Old Testament,which is not an historical document (unless you believe in burning bushes and parting seas).Zionists have fabricated their own history in order to support their enterprise which, otherwise, is exposed for the exceptionalist, discriminatory - and racist - 'ideology' (pathology?) that it really is!!
genesto100 1 month ago 3
@genesto100
Agreed!
Setting aside the question as to whether or not "God" exists, to quote Hanan Ashrawi: "God is not a real estate agent." Also, those that believe that God promised Canaan/Palestine to Jews exclusively and they have the "right" to expel its native inhabitants must also believe that God is a racist and a fascist.
straightshooterable 1 month ago 12
@straightshooterable "God is not a real estate agent." Good luck w that. Stupid people don't go to Heaven. The land was written to the Children of Israel (COI). Read the Quran 5:21 Moses said to COI:"Enter the Holy Land that God wrote to you." So how can you argue when the Quran confirms the ownership in writing? The answer is in the Quran but Muslims are too lost to figure it out. God help America if they ever found out the truth about who has the right over the land today in the eyes of God.
kamalfansa 1 month ago
@kamalfansa
Inane response. Then again, perhaps you have no problem with believing in a "God" who is a racist and a fascist.
Apparently, you are also unaware of WWII and resulting international human rights law (e.g., the UN Charter, The Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Fourth Geneva Convention). If the 6 million Jews slaughtered by the Nazis could somehow rise from the dead, they would be the first to condemn Israel for its monstrous crimes against the Palestinians.
straightshooterable 1 month ago
@straightshooterable I dont get it? why would God be a racist? first I am a Muslim, and I am only stating that is in the Quran. It says that God wrote the land for them. What is offensive about that, the Muslims claim God gave them Mecca? When you understand the scriptures and how it intersect with each other you will know Israel will rise again to become the Kingdom once was. The Story starts with Abraham... but too long to explain...
kamalfansa 1 month ago
@kamalfansa You are one of their useful zidiots. Your koran was their work as well, if you would learn of its origin with an open mind you can clearly see that.
SlackerSlayer 1 month ago
@kamalfansa YOu are a liar and you have mis qouted the Quran by taking out of context what it really says in that verse. YOU are NOT a MUSLIM. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT ANOTHER ZIONIST LIAR.
batlady2 1 month ago
@straightshooterable If only the Torah claimed that the land belonged to the Children of Israel, I would be concerned. But when the Quran confirms the same point, you know then, Jews and Muslims both have the same real estate agent. On the other hand Christians were willing to give up the land for Caesar. Guess what, and it makes perfect sense to me :o)
kamalfansa 1 month ago
@kamalfansa Did you read the whole Quraan or only the part you prefer ? The Jews (those Jews not todays) were the chosen ,later those Christians were the chosen and after that the Muslims (according to the Quraan)
MegaKees88 1 month ago
@straightshooterable The point to make is those jews feel they have their gifted land from their god. Yet jew ignores the conditions and events listed as prophecies that must become true before they can invade anothers land. Do you see the jews messiah anywhere? No? No israel should exist then. Then there is their holocaust point, which according the jew-God, requires they all die from being burned. Not one death from a bullet, stabbing etc, will count for the 6 million holocaust myth. Jew liars
SlackerSlayer 1 month ago
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@straightshooterable The imperialist-colonialist Arab-Muslim occupiers are "native inhabitants"??
So how come under every village and town of those so-called "native inhabitants" lay the ruins of a Jewish village or town? How come the Al-Aqsa mosque of those "native inhabitants" is standing ON TOP of the ruins of the Jewish temple-mount and not Vice versa?
And how were those "poor natives" expelled? Were they just sitting at home drinking coffee when the Jews attacked - or did they attack first?
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@straightshooterable ; So you mean to say that real Muslims are racists? well.... criiriiciciririrco.....
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
@straightshooterable EXACTLY RIGHT! Man there are some smart folks in this debate! IT DOES MY HEART GOOD TO SEE IT!
batlady2 1 month ago
@minhali
SneaKBaRiZa 1 month ago
Its about time the truth is told it is palestine not Israel ! there were no 6 million Jews killed by Europeans .At that time there were few Jews ,its all made up by jews so pepole feel sorry for them there the evil of the world!!!!!!!
AKILLIAN2 1 month ago 3
@AKILLIAN2 That's right! Well said.
BenedictusDeus 1 month ago
How were they ever allowed to get away with this? Probably because the Israelis are so confident that American politicians will never allow the truth to manifest itself. What hypocrites and cowards. You can smell the obnoxious miasma of primal terror.
minhali 1 month ago 2
@minhali do u have a decent link that in a reasonable and easy way describes the history of the territory?
snuffcarl 1 month ago
@snuffcarl Sure. Here's one. Put this into Google: Deconstructing the Walls of Jericho historykb
BubbaLouis 1 month ago
israel was there way before 1709, did u forget 2012 years ago?????
pappa6085 1 month ago
@pappa6085 Actually, the territory was called Judaea and it belonged to the Romans who changed the name to the commonly accepted "Palaestina," the Greek variation on the original "Falasteen," the initial "f" changed to initial "p" according to the Greek phonetic system of the era. Herodotos is the first known to have recorded this form, "Palaestine," in his Histories c. 450BC. The Romans imitated the Greeks, that is why this form is used in the West. The natives call it Falasteen.
minhali 1 month ago
@pappa6085 lol, which planet was this on then?
GussetMonkey 1 month ago
My favorite episode!
tomstedham 1 month ago
:O THERE WAS NO ISRAEL IN 1709?! SHOCKING! :P
jaydee1987 1 month ago
@jaydee1987 There had been no Israel since the Assyrians carried off the ten northern tribes to Assyria and destroyed the kingdom c. 740BC. The southern kingdom of Judaea remained, with the two tribes of Juda and Benjamin. Since then, the remaining Israelites have been known as Judaeans, which evolved into Jews in English. Judaea was also conquered and destroyed by Babylon c. 570BC. After that, the region was ruled by other nations.
minhali 1 month ago
@minhali
And the United Jewish Kingdom under David and Solomon (bearing in mind there is no credible evidence that they ever existed) lasted a mere 22 years. The partial resurrection of Israel under the Maccabees who were controlled by Rome was equally brief. In fact, compared to that of Muslims and other rulers (e.g., Egypt and Rome), Jewish dominance in Canaan/Palestine was of minor, even insignificant, consequence.
straightshooterable 1 month ago 5
@straightshooterable
Correction: In the first sentence of my comment I meant to write: "...lasted a mere 72 years."
straightshooterable 1 month ago
fuck israel
WaySlicka 1 month ago
nice.
secobi 1 month ago
TRUTH.
Mr313Max 1 month ago
Say the truth even for one time in life.. Palestine is occupied by Israel. Thanks for the video.
0088mohammed 1 month ago 26
@0088mohammed Not occupied, brutally stolen while most of the natives were put in prison camps and colonies. Meanwhile, Jewish supporters of the state of Israel (most Jews worldwide) used their vast wealth and connections to make war with all Muslims, and to hide thier murderous lies. Israel is a white supremacist racist state created by and for Jewish supremacists worldwide. Everyone should read Ilan Pappe's "The Ethic Cleansing Of Palestine".
123decoeli 1 month ago
@123decoeli The "native" Arabs that now called "Palestinians" has nothing to do with 1709 Palestine. Palestine refers to the land of Israel as the Roman conquerors and later European Christians meant to say. BTW, there is no "P" in Arabic, so how can a "people" call himself and "his land" in a letter that doesn't exist in his tongue and language?
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
@MrGiddeonn
That's why Arabs refer to Palestine as "Filastin." Such appalling ignorance. Unworthy of further comment.
straightshooterable 1 month ago
@straightshooterable ; It is like aliens calling America Bamerica and claiming for originality ownership of the land ! The Romans called the land of Israel Palestine in order to spiritualy steal the land from the Jews, it has nothing to do with Arabs that never lived there, but small portion of them since the Islamic occupation in the 7th century. Any way, the Arab rejected the name Palestine until the Jews gave up that name and called their state Israel. Then they call the land Filistin.
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
@MrGiddeonn ; Why Filistin? Just because they couldn't pronounce "P"! That means that the Arabs carry the name that the conquerors gave while stealing the land from the Jews, while staying with the theft tag in their mouth. The now day Palestinian thieves still using that name knowing that people like you don't know history.
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
@MrGiddeonn
The region between the Jordan River and the Med. Sea was first referred to as "Palestine" by the Greek historian Herodotus ("the father of history") during the 5th century BCE.
In the 4th Century BCE, Aristotle made reference to the Dead Sea in his Meteorology. "Again if, as is fabled, there is a lake in Palestine...."
Jewish historian Josephus's (c.37-100 CE)The Jewish War, Antiquities of the Jews contains copious references to both "Palestine" and "Palestinians."
straightshooterable 1 month ago
@MrGiddeonn
When the Muslim Arabs arrived in Palestine in the 7th century CE (and liberated its Jewish population, as they did later in southern Spain), they retained its administrative organization as it had been under the Romans and the Byzantines. They named the territory Djund Filastin. 19th century European textbooks refer to "Palestine," as did Theodor Herzl in his correspondence, the illegal 1917 Balfour Declaration and the League of Nations Class A British Mandate.
straightshooterable 1 month ago
@MrGiddeonn
Seldom have I encountered such appalling and inexcusable ignorance of this subject.
You live in a Hasbara induced fantasy land. I suggest you do some elementary research using internationally respected, unbiased, thoroughly documented and foot noted scholarly sources.
In any event, I grow weary of this exchange. Your lack of knowledge renders you utterly unqualified to discuss the subject. This will be my final response to you. I will ignore your postings.
straightshooterable 1 month ago
@straightshooterable You live in Falsetinian proPALganda fantasy land, so? You can't react properly to the facts, that's why you hide behind your sand.
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
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bulbulinush 1 month ago
@123decoeli Bulshit. Ilan Pappe is a delirious fruitcake with a Jewish Uncle Tom syndrome, who makes his living from and distorting history for anti-Semites.. What everyone should REALLY read are the next few articles - who can be found on Google:
1) "Solomonia: And the World is Lying / Ben-Dror Yemini"
2) "Solomonia: The Jewish Nakba"
3) "And The World Pays / Ben Dror Yemini"
4) "A Homemade Genocide"
5) "Solomonia: Humanitarian Show"
And See on YouTube:
"A PALESTINIAN MYTH - The so said NAKBA"
Odedisra 1 month ago
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@123decoeli B.S. Ilan Pappe is a delirious fruitcake with a Jewish Uncle Tom syndrome, who makes his living from distorting history for anti-Semites.. What everyone should REALLY read are the next few articles - who can be found on Google:
1) "Solomonia: And the World is Lying / Ben-Dror Yemini"
2) "Solomonia: The Jewish Nakba"
3) "And The World Pays / Ben Dror Yemini"
4) "A Homemade Genocide"
5) "Solomonia: Humanitarian Show"
And See on YouTube:
"A PALESTINIAN MYTH - The so said NAKBA".
bulbulinush 1 month ago
Ron Paul 2012!!
NCCJared724 1 month ago 2
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the joos bribed/paid potus - truman 2 million dollars to recognize this criminal mini state.
It started out as a fraud, continues today as a fraud. Why no outcry for the millions of white sex slaves in Israhell???
pokerfacecom 1 month ago 2
the joos bribed/paid potus - truman 2 million dollars to recognize this criminal mini state.
It started out as a fraud, continues today as a fraud. Why no outcry for the millions of white sex slaves in Israhell???
pokerfacecom 1 month ago
Read your history books Yasm2002. Jews prospered in Muslim countries, as do Christans today. Have you ever been to Jordan or Syria? Christians are part of the elite. As for the killings, it was European Christians who massacred Muslims and Jews. How quick we forget modern Israel is the result of Europeans killing millions of Jews - and this happened less than 70 years ago.
Yazen1965 1 month ago
It's Palestine not Israel. So, shut up!
amin95ify 1 month ago
the video is even funnier because of previous 2 comments ,
Jews remained living in the whole region till they moved in the mid-20th century
please provide maps that you are talking about yasm2002
MrSoon1978 1 month ago
If we should recognize every country with its original frontiers to their original occupants, we should do a little more archeology and find the frontiers anatomycally modern humans drew after conquering what was originally owned by Neandertals. And stop there only if we discredit the claims that we actually interbred with them. What a nice work ahead! Enjoy it!
TheJecuchi 1 month ago
All history and religious books showing Israel ,,, jews in even saudia arabia,,,but when muslims kicked them from these countries and even from israel ,,, israel deleted ,,, ,, it is the time to get it back ... .. muslims even now kicking christians from that area..
1709 makes muslim happy because that was mohamad goal to remove nonmuslims and control all ..
if we go back to 1709 ,,it was no USA and no kuwait
any way United Nation recognized Israel ,,,
yasm2002 1 month ago
palestine for ever
waseem5677 1 month ago
fuck you israel!
snowfiary 1 month ago
I love this video!!!
anamdelmar 1 month ago
Brilliant!
DarkPriestess1 1 month ago 2
LMAO!!! That was really good!
2minstral 1 month ago