Re: Sara Suten Seti EXPOSES Pastor Ray Hagins as AGENT

[Divineaziatic9]

Indeed Brother!!

[dynastyseven]

Thank you brother. - Jason

[TheSupremewisdom]

About time somebody start taking seti to task.

[TheHeiroglyph]

Dr.ray haggins is the man.

[laxpopov]

i advocate this 100% this what im talking about, he is talking about ccurrent african empowerment here in ameriica...its sad that people pay so much attention to ignorant brotha trying to be self appointed leaders...many of you dont even know that you are just being entertained like in church ...lol

[iQillTrocity]

Great video. I learned so much from Dr.ray haggins

[splitgardenz1]

remember we dont get attacked supporting lies we get attacked bringing death to lies tearing down the tower.I

[panavision09]

be that as it may, he made a very good point in "if you are a pastor/mason and you come into the knowledge or truth, you need to leave the relig/mason alone. this is for the purpose of uplifting your people. anyway, ray hagins has all but vanished from the scene as of late outside of the church comunity.

[bigbear197708]

yes my bruva, preach, preach, preach.

[jamie201120]

i love ray and his teaching

[bornjust2003]

THE TRUTH IS THE LIGHT ! I LOVE YOUR ENERGY ! UNITY AMONG FAMILY MEMBERS, IF THERE IS A BROTHER YOU DON'T LIKE STAY AWAY FROM HIM AND DO YOUR THING.

[smooviosmooth]

Thx Bro Tahuti that's a beautiful point! I'm glad you see that it is a must that we Build a nation and keeping the message going is one of our strongest tools.so no matter what status we think we have we must keep in mind that division is one of the tools that the oppressor use against us. lets stop using it against ourselves. And stop getting caught up in the messenger and missing the message. Especially when we are suppose to be solid evidence providers. HOTEP

[arnibah]

True.I think Seti is an agent.

[hassancookbey]

didn't see that coming hagin's being an agent. those who are going against the plan of the uniting of our people is an agent. some are even self appointed agent. also, i think thos who are looking to get paid for uniting our people are agents

[B7acKLioN]

man i like your vids dude...hotep bro..real talkkk

[Twomonthago]

I agree with you hands down. However let's not forget race issues can't be that horrific anyway looking at all the multi-race porn, mix marriages etc today. So I agree the mis-information are those who follow it. Dr. Haggins and others are doing a good job, Seti needs to lose the bad language and teach other then that great video.

[c7aron]

You are so right. They don't even realize these are the same tactics they are using on these two power brothers, in which they have used throughout history. The house slave, against the field slave. We are bigger than that, they are bigger. It's funny how they feel they can use the same tactics and still, it produces the same results. they are being used to discredit the true message. Get them fighting each other, then they won't have to time to or energy to get the message across to our people.

[c7aron]

You said it Brother. It's just another way these europeans whites, causes the black man to turn on one another. Thnhese brothers need to get together and get on the same dam page. They can't even see that they are being used to discredit one another, and who gets hurt. It isn't them, meaning white people, it's always us. The true race, the God and Godess race, the black race. Peace ad Hotep.

[c7aron]

You said it Brother. It's just another way these europeans whites, causes the black man to turn on one another. Thnhese brothers need to get together and get on the same dam page. They can't even see that they are being used to discredit one another, and who gets hurt. It isn't them, meaning white people, it's always us. The true race, the God and Godess race, the black race.

[AwolRJ]

wow one of these vids actually has a normal person talking normal shit. Good stuff man you my friend.

[happyfeetdean]

Very wise!

[happyfeetdean]

Very wise!

[Barbissuccess]

I appreciate Dr Ray Higgins and his teachings. I thank the Most High that there are real teachers/pastors like Dr Hagin out here speaking the truth and not worried about tithes and offerings and benefiting from people of color who were stripped of our identity. Thanks to Dr Hagin he confirmed the unease in my spirit about christanity and the bible.

[blacksupaman1]

i agree all these so-called "Afrikan" groups going against each other is counter productive. But like you said we need "Programs" and this where the BLACK PANTHER PARTY'S ideology comes in. This will liberate us...right about pointing out the pattern of Sara Seti's behavior attacking people who is speaking out aganist white supremacy

[MrHurricane12]

Well said bru.

[18ThinkBlue]

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer that's it, it's really that simple.

[yvonnia123]

I stumbled upon your video while looking at some of Dr. Hagins' videos. Thank you so much for keeping our eyes on the prize by speaking actual common sense-- reminding folks that we cannot entertain petty bickering when there is the bigger issue of uplifting our people. It's so easy for ppl to take the low road. Brother, thank you so much for taking the moral high road!

[FBHOME1]

i agree my brother ,lets get to work.

[bandolu]

He's fighting white supremacy. Ray is trying to teach African descendants their culture and history. Yes we need to be innovative brother, but we need self identity to move forward. To take action as a people without knowing who we are is self destruction. We have been under a false sense of nationalism to this racist country. It is important that we get an understanding of who we are so we can know what we can do. We are useless within this racist system. Much love and respect my brother.

[vincerashaad]

The black power movement reminds me of the empires of ancient Kemet who warred on another into extinction and hated one another so much that they align with Arabs to kill their own blood relatives in some cases.

The CIA will notice the disunity and use the moors against the Hebrews, the Hebrews against the muslims, etc

We pay too much attn to one another's differences instead of uniting on a common cause, the end of white supremacy

[dizocb]

@AmericanPowerBase AGREED

[2387j]

Greetings Brother I just looked at your video and i thank you for keeping it real it takes a real person to call right right and wrong wrong know matter who it falls on.

[daattic]

usally the whisle blower is the trouble maker

[SunStance]

LOL @ motivated fool 4:37. I see u brotha. u broke it down well. Love and Respect. Hetep

[dbadal1]

@brotehuti thanks so much for sharing you logic with us. I agree with you! I'm just going to say this; I've seen almost all of Brother Ray Hagins and I don't believe so called "Agents" will come at the black woman and man from that direction. Simple logic dictates somethings wrong with Sara Suten Seti position on Dr. Hagins.

[TheTruthseeker73]

@brotehuti I also have met Dr. Hagins, a few years ago I use to attend the African Village, faithfully every sunday. I stopped attending for a few reasons, but it was one particular lecture he taught. I am not Muslim, nor do I believe in "Constatine's Christianty"! He taught that the Prophets, never existed, what bothered me was the website source that he gave the multitude. I researched the author and he was a Luciferian!!! Hmmm, did he know this? Shouldn't he had  known this?

[TheDbland]

listen to this, how many people will be saying in the future that you are an agent ? anybody can say it, but is what he saying true ? Is ray hagins saying the truth ? i have'nt heard any different from him and any other of our teachers, so just stop the willie lynch stuff

[monkhillier]

Excellent message. We can't be distracted from the main mission by in-fighting and disunity. We must all attain science, engineering and organizational skills, whether they are ratified by a university or by self-study. As long each of us can deliver solutions and results, thats the mission.

[ruapraia]

I got you, i agree with what you are saying. We do not need to be finger pointing. Black people, my family...please stop responding to whites that troll black channels it pollutes the cause. And it can only turn ugly, lets just respond to how we are going to back each other, and make some positive changes in our world. Peace family.Thanks for posting

[imhotepincarnate]

Wise

[NYDEMOLITIONFANS]

HOTEP BROTHER YOU VERY INTELIGENT, THAT'S THE WAY OF DOING IT

[virgoblack]

I see Dr Ray as a mentor, learnt a lot from him. seeing videos purporting him to be a ‘fake’ or an ‘agent’ etc..i find deeply disturbing..more so, the passion in which these ppl advocate hatred & division amongs their own kind! Dr Ray is a good man, nobody is perfect!

I like your term “motivated fools”, who cannot see that they ARE playing the role of the "agent", cos division is what they preaching! Open your eyes ppl! we been living that shit since the fall of the Black Empire! (B.E)

[JenniferJordan360]

Thank you brother!

[fabcocat]

good video as well.

[fabcocat]

Ray Hagins is an Agent, Whoa! An Agent for who? Oh right, the white man, thanks! Questions to all who say he is an agent: 1. Do you learn and share with others what is needed? 2. Does the traditional statement hold any ounce of truth: "It takes one to know one" 3. Are you a lost person without your own formation of beliefs? 4. Do you wait for someone else to tell you what think? 5. Are you a coward afraid of others, especially those you believe are more superior than you? 6. Are you an idiot?

[Lsoprano216]

@ PanRedBlackGreen and everybody else that is fueling this bull crap! I learned this from a wise a man so please take heed; " When two elephants fight, it's the grass that suffer". Please stop promoting this small dispute between these two great black men. One wanna get paid for the knowledge (kwesi) while the other wanna give it away (Hagins). Black people, let's stop destroying ourselves by fueling beef between us. I'm sure these great minds can solve this issue without this extra bull-ish..

[matrixmaster79]

Non of this will matter anyway in the near future, Obama as of Jan this year just signed into excutive order martial law preparations, and all I find here in these videos my bros feuding over racial and double agent issues. The best nigga or agent to focus on now is that one who is going to at your side differences aside fighting for your rights to exist. This small fry shit needs to be put aside and larger groups formed, we gone argue about this shit when Fema lockin us up?

[MzPriss08]

Bro. Tehuti. I'm so with you on this. People need to stop exaggerating & using division to promote their own org/image/agenda.  All the drama just lowers our vibration. GET OVER THE MESS. Pettiness is getting our people nowhere. Love, Sis. I.N. KheperKaRe

[lovembig41]

Wow, this is very disappointing in general. Brothers must find a way to come together in agreement, and believe me, It's possible... This is no better than Bloods vs Crips... If these men can create forums to enlighten the minds of black paople in America, and broaden out thoughts individually, they can do it collectively as well... We MUST discontinue our crab-like mentalities, and either sink or swim TOGETHER...

Thank you very much...

[AfricanProtector]

confort, the white man can protect her, give her good life, be aggressive. but we always wanna march, disgracefull

[AfricanProtector]

slave mind, love to be weak, crying begging marching. Slave Mind, start being MAN, strong, confident, self determinated, agressive, protect you woman with strenght if needed, always saw other races protect their woman always, speccialy white, but us we are weak, scared to be hate by our woman, but you know now you are hated, they don't like you, they wanna be whites man woman or bitch, because you are weak and can't protect her, can't give her

[AfricanProtector]

can't be aggresse when necessary, can't you see that negros black and so called african?, this tendency of our calling indirectly dumb to each other, its a slave mind, we need agriculture, business, economics, technology, etc..., and yes we need army and police ok? when we talk in army or police all negros wow lets attack our own wanna be army police and warrior, we are passive people, we can't attack no one thats white, they can attack us but we can't retaliate,

[AfricanProtector]

Yes lets sart working programs, you said it right but we need to our army, police, to protect our interest, like every have, so sara suten seti is one of the generals, so don't hate the wanna be fighter, instead applaue them, and say we all love you warriors, continue you work, and we will take care of other areas like economics business enginnering, never heard on negro black or so called african saying this, always depreciating our military, nobody will never respect us, if we

[AfricanProtector]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, no doubt about it, but some negros says that are his enemy too. If our enemy is white, then the enemies of white are my enemy too, only heard that from negros.

Hugo Chavez, Iran, Korea, are all my friends.

Sara Suten Seti is our minister of defense, please stop hating each other, we only know how to hate our brothers, and non whites.

[nappyg1]

saaneter is the one thats a loud mouth joke out of new york who is hating on hagins and its possible he is a agent

[nappyg1]

i made a comment about sara suten being a joke no not him he has jus got something against hagins but its the other brotha out of new york

[nappyg1]

sara suten is a loud mouth joke. I dont even know him but I have seen your vids and to me personally he is a agent

[bornjust2003]

A peace video,

Seti is fighting everyone but white folks. "HE THAT HATH A EAR LET HIM HEAR". Pastor Hagins is very edifying and every other word out of his mouth is not M.F. All we have to do is let knowledge be born and let the chips fall where they may.

[PanRedBlackGreen]

I got a question for you broehuti.

Why did Seti call Ray Hagins an Agent?

I think this might be part of the reasoning. If you don't know then why speak on it yourself! If it's not something you believe in then leave it alone!

But I can see your more caught up with some persons being divided because you believe they should be unified.

Just to let you know, facebook was not the beginning!

Maybe you can let the community know if you ever asked Seti why he did come out against Ray Hagins?

[brotehuti]

@PanRedBlackGreen Hotep.  I know why Seti came out against Dr. Ray - the Ashra Kwesi beef. Seti comes out against everyone about everything. Of course I am caught up with us being divided. All conscious Afrikans should be. "A house divided against itself cannot stand."We can't prosper without our "heavyweights" putting egos and issues aside for the betterment of Afrikan people. That is a reasonable proposition. All of us is are so much bigger than any single individual.

[PanRedBlackGreen]

@brotehuti I understand you meaning. But I do think it is legitimate to not trust and use your own investigative skills when involving this senario. Critism is something we need to have and we also need to accept that we are devided right now as we speak. Not devided because of Seti. But devided before Seti. We have been devided. Ray Hagins because has professed to be a christian, not Ashra. In my view if you are devided or not devided the same questions applies. Who is your leader?

[brotehuti]

@PanRedBlackGreen Peace, PanRedBlackGreen. Dr. Ray did profess to be a Christian before he came into consciousness. I myself was a Christian for 19 years before I converted to Islam, and have since had a conscious awakening not too long ago - about a year. Someone professing Christianity in the past doesn't disqualify them from being "down". Most Black folks here in America professed Christianity before coming into consciousness.

[PanRedBlackGreen]

@brotehuti

Also, in my view, if you were welcomed on trips to African by Ashra and was taught by Ashra then why the heck would you diss Ashra for teaching you? Everyone knows Ashra and Dr. Ben have been the ones who opened our eyes to Kemet and our history at large.

I think you need to pay the cost to be the boss. So it seems to me that Hagins has some explaning to do not to Ashra or Seti because they know! But explaining to the people who actually respect him. The damage is done now! Hotep!

[brotehuti]

@PanRedBlackGreen The beef came about when Dr. Ray organized a trip with his congregation with Master Teacher Ashra Kwesi hired as the tour guide. It was Dr. Ray's trip. He was not invited by Master Teacher Ashra Kwesi. I bear witness the Dr. Ben is the one who enlightened all of us to Kemet.

[PanRedBlackGreen]

@brotehuti

But over all I agree with you. I wish brothers and sistahs could wake up and stop falling for anything! We are devided because our people fall for anything. Not to mention they have a low expectation anyway. So most of them will never wake up just like most of them will never respect a brother when he deserves it!

Leave them alone! You cannot keep debating sheep. At some point you just let them be!

As long as you keep respect you are one step ahead of the rest.

[brotehuti]

@PanRedBlackGreen I agree. Respect is key. No one will listen or seek to understand the strengths of one's reasoning if they are being disrespectful. I appreciate your comments.  You have been very respectful and have presented views that are supported by logical reasoning rather than making scathing remarks and personal attacks. I appreciate that. Peace & blessing be upon you.

[PanRedBlackGreen]

@brotehuti I see your point on the agent thing. It can be flipped in alot of positive ways and negative ways. I presume people will choose which ever they can interpret at that moment. I guess for the most part I subscribe to conservative values. But then again I started my journey through the writings of Ivan Van Sertima, Dr. BEn, Dr. Clark etc. So I do not really need an interpretation from their original meaning because I have established my own view.

[PanRedBlackGreen]

@brotehuti I so also understand the need for respect. But I also see a good coming out of this. BEcause if you do not shake up things nothing can settle into a fine mass. So I would like to see where all this goes from here instead of letting things come together just for the sake of it. Because we can learn about all these persons through struggle! It is our fait to struggle this way.

One we are done, we will be the strongest!

[PanRedBlackGreen]

@brotehuti One thing I can say is different about Ashra and Dr. BEn from Ray Haggins. It's simple. Dr. BEn and Ashra put our people onto this through struggle and sacrificed everything for it! Ray is still working to get that far.

I guess that is where most of the issue comes from.

We have to draw the line somewhere with respect.

Hotep family!

[PanRedBlackGreen]

@brotehuti

As far as Hagins being an agent. In my view he is. Why? Because he disrepected the order!

What he did was dissrepectfull! If Ashra did not approve he should have respected that and understood why! He showed no respect by being a lone wolf trying to blend in his teachings without approval from the one who taught him.

Thats just basic respect. But on the other hand he works with police and he values police more the respect of his teacher!

[brotehuti]

@PanRedBlackGreen The disagreement spawns from taking video footage on the trip to Kemet. Not from teaching unapproved doctrine. It is a trademark dispute that is between them and quite frankly does not interest me. "My name is Bennet and I ain't in it." Do you feel me? It has just gone to far with the name calling and such.

[brotehuti]

@PanRedBlackGreen Agent is a word that is used way too liberally among us. It is a very strong allegation. However, Dr. Ray is an agent - an agent of positive change. Agent is most often used in the context of one that seeks to bring disunity via back-biting, slandering, and such. Such things is what led to the assassination of our beloved Malcolm X. Take a look at the videos here YouTube and you can truly see who the agents - in the more popular context, truly are.

[greenknight78]

Finally some REASON!!!!!!

[boots13100]

This brotha is right

[imanafrikan]

brother --i agree with u,the public bashing or not public-MUST STOP--WE WILL NEVER GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO GO UNTIL.

[detjay313]

Amen Brother

[SimiraRevolt]

Ray Haggins Can not by any means diss Ashra Kwesi in a Public Forum. IDK, if he is an agent or not but much respect is loss. How r u gonna disrepect someone that taught u knowledge n now u copying off of him. Even Malcolm X didn't disrespect Elijah Muhammed in theis manner. Respect is lossed

[brotehuti]

@SimiraRevolt You bring up an excellent point. Public dissing needs to stop. I hear that Master Teacher Ashra Kwesi showed out against Dr. Ray in the Carribean at a large international gathering, and Dr. Ray said things on the Internet. Two wrongs don't make a right. In any event, I respect your opinion and agree. We all need to take heed to NOT disrespecting each other.

[Blacksungod]

Well said.

[MrSonofOsiris]

bro nray hagin is still a good man Seti has nothing to do with that beef its way beyond him me an u bro these elders has been supplying positive info ever since i known them both now Seti comes out rantin/raging now everyone has this thing with ray what about ashra cause knowledge is free

[noirad79]

Good vid. Well said, but i doubt seti will take heed. He gets attention and he likes it.

[illone10]

I agree with your video Seti is wrong on this leave Ray alone it's pure jealousy on Seti part. Family the only way to usurp is to infiltrate then usurp, we complain about police brutality well the only way to combat that is to become the police, you complain about bad doctors well the only way to combat that is to become doctors. I love Seti but Seti needs to keep teaching and stop dry snitcing. Seti ain't never clap shit but his gums. I say this with love Hotep family

[antoniolope37]

I agree with u bro we can learn from everybody. I like u we have drifted so from away from what we have to do. I think that it going to take something real bad to happen to us far more worst than Katrina. For us to realize that we need each other. Peace bro keep doing that real talk.

[ggilbertsr]

this is nothing more but the same old shit , the white man creates division then conqers.wake up people , we want unity .

[peacemakerandrebel]

like the vid

some of the afrocentrist are beyond ridiculous.

just because pastor haggind has a friend on facebook that's apolicemen he is an agent? he used to be a police so they probably had been friends for years.also that doesnt mean the policemen is a bad person or anything. they just wanted to be a police.

[peacemakerandrebel]

like the vid

some of the afrocentrist are beyond ridiculous.

just because pastor haggind has a friend on facebook that's apolicemen he is an agent? he used to be a police so they probably had been friends for years.also that doesnt mean the policemen is a bad person or anything. they just wanted to be a police.

[TwoSkies1]

The Agent is the one attempting to create division, diversion and distraction. None of this matters. What each individual personally does in his or her own life is what matters. This can be for personal liberation or collective liberation.

Shihan Parker

[privythamc]

my enemy's enemy is my friend..

.is that sun tzu? ...great vid brah

[privythamc]

dig that we need all that stuff you said..we do need to watch the way we interact with eachother on a public scale..but you no one will ever convince me to codemn bro Seti..if I ever do it will be because of VISIBLE action or his method of interaction with his people..but other than that I cant fault either one of you for your thoughts and actions

[privythamc]

well of course you know that the fact he was white.. was not the issue..it was his ties to the police..coupled with his attempt to defame ashra kwesi's organization, that probably made it a concern of Seti's. I dont get why we are upset with brothas like seti..If we cant deal with him how are we to deal with the white supremacist system, good vid though

[AWMsT]

We as Black People hurt ourselves. Youtube is a good service but not to be used for attacking our own people. Posting a video about "Ray Hagens is Police" who gives a dam! I have watched many of his video messages and they are all possitive but that doesnt make him a perfect man and the one throwing the stones should get a job and then understand where you work has nothing to do with your beliefs, your god and whats in your heart. Make a phone call not a video.

[illeife]

Well Said my Brother!

[Tiarka]

Great points in this video brother!

[GzUp82]

I would say tough love is sometimes the best love..As a brother you may love Dr. Ray but realistically your approach is an issue we suffer as African ppl.. too quick to forgive..Many of us suffer from that knowing who our oppressors are but forgiving them because of so called good deeds done by a few..I know what the purpose and cause of the Policce force is I would NEVER join to say I'm there to help OUR people..that's foolish you can't help while participating you wouldn't last 30days

[DarkVvader]

I totally agree w/this video response. I have said the same thing directly to Dr. Brother Ray. I have tons of online contacts and don't know 80% of them. IT DON'T MEAN NOTHING! Let's squash this.... Move on! please!

[DEZZLELUV]

I agree with you brotha....but, that Chicken Hawk Seti is a crab with a busted shell....Ray haggins a former Militaryman, Police officer, a mason..has all the cradentials in order to keep my attention...Jelousy is a sure sign of weakness...A collaborator...Phony ass intrenet militant....now all of what this Seti has said is suspect...."Set" the advasary is has been evoked by this brotha Seti...

[dannib1130]

I agree with you 100%. I have personally met Dr. Hagins as well. He's a wonderful teacher. He has shared that he was a police officer, its not a secret. I think people just need something to talk about.

[napturaltwist211]

I would have considered ur take as relevant if Ray Hagans hadnt said himself that him & the white boy WERE friends. Did u watch all the videos on this b4 u commented? Hagans said they were FRIENDS. So that puts a whole other spin on the situation. Far different from what your describing. And for the record I dont have any white ppl on Any of my Friends lists on Any of my social networks and I have plenty of 'friends'. Its not hard 2 do if we're serious about Nationhood & solid foundations.

[brotehuti]

@napturaltwist211 Peace, sis. You indeed have a point. I cannot speak for Dr. Ray in this matter, but what I do know from my own experience is that they have direct lines of info into what we do, so it would behoove us to have direct lines into what they do. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. If we have no direct access, we'll just be speaking theory and not be able to see the beast up close.

[brotehuti]

@napturaltwist211 Again sis, I respect your points. I personally would not have said a prayer dude's ceremony, but perhaps Dr. Ray had a reason.

Also, keep in mind that was more than 7 years ago.

Yes, he was already raised by Master Teacher Ashra Kwesi at that point. Dr. Ray drops a lot of knowledge and puts in work so I'm not writing him off for this or calling him an agent. However, things of this nature from someone of his standing should certainly cease and desist going forward. Peace.

[targus112]

I am amazed on how folk can believe what was posted on a Facebook or MySpace page. I need more evidence than a just a post. What if our enemy can just discredit us based on a fake Facebook or MySpace page?

A previous post stated, that ...It doesn't even have to be true all they have todo is print it in the Daily News, and it's over!!

Dr. Amos Wilson, Destruction of African Civilization

Are we this weak as a people? Show me the real evidence?

Vishnu

[AgainstTheGrainzTV]

great take bruh

[brotehuti]

007tariq13 - Peace, brother. I definitely feel you on that. I wouldn't have done it but I'm not going to throw Ray Hagin to the lions for this. I wouldn't have done it, but I'm not Dr. Ray, and he is not me. Again, I'm not going to dog him out but would expect better going forward.

[IconListening]

icon- THIS NIGGA IS A AGENT LISTING TO HIM OMG ITS SO OBVIOUS.

I AM YOUR FRIEND; HA HA HA YEAH RIGHT AGENT HA HA HA HA.

[brotehuti]

@IconListening Yeah. Your comments are amusing, faceless, nameless one.  I really enjoyed all of your videos and your ideas for growth and the betterment of Afrikan people. This discussion on Dr. Ray and Bro. Sa Ra has grown way tired. Peace.

[brotehuti]

Peace, 007tariq13. Yes, I did skim through the response sent to Bro. Sa Ra Suten Seti. I do not envy Ray Hagins' position within the law enforcement community (past and present), but I stand firm that having a so-called Facebook "friend" makes someone an agent. I personally roll with those that put in work, not those that nit-pick to find fault. I have met and spoken to Ray Hagin. He puts in work and isn't anti anybody while putting in work. He is just pro-Afrikan.

[allornothin86]

...movement. So while Seti may or may not be an agent, you and the other handkerchief head renegade negroes are attempting to guise the allowing of these krackas in the midst of us under the banner of innocuity, for the purpose of sending the Black Power movement on a different course.

You handkerchief head renegade negroes are not intelligent enough to get the job done yourselves so you all have to bring in the K.K.K. (Kold Klimate Klowns). You JJs & KKKs will never succeed this time around.

[brotehuti]

Peace, allornothin86. Real revolutions doesn't advertise or happen on YouTube, Facebook or any other social media. This is just info exchange. The revolution is in the work. Being stand-offish wouldn't do anything but help one become a bullseye. I look forward to your video on how to do the this thing right. Also, no need to call people JJs. That is not productive. Again, I look forward to your instructional videos. Peace.

[allornothin86]

Young brotha it is a BIG DEAL to have kracka friends on your facebook, youtube, twitter,etc. friend's list. How is it that you have overlooked the confusion and potential entrapment born out of this? For any Black person purporting to be a freedom fighter for Afrakans' liberation to openly call a kracka his/her friend, in any medium, is nothing more than a subtle way of making that/those krackas relevant to the Black Power movement. This is the only way these krackas can gain access in the...

[ANKHRASET]

look ashra kweisi is the one who had the fallout with dr ray haggins and he did the best thing by staying silent on the disagreement and doing his work for his people thats what seti should do and dr ray and dr haggins need to respect elder in this work of up lifting our people we need no more demagogs!!!!!!!!! hotep!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BLKMRM]

wow! do you guys use these names for real? This is crazy.....its like a typical Black social construct where we don't get along. Only now we not killing each other, but bashing each other via webcam.....priceless!!

[MrClint360]

Your're a wise man!

Bro. Sara Suten Seti is becoming increasingly confrontational and disresspectful. I truely wonder about that Brother.

[brotehuti]

Peace, Mr.Clint. Yeah, Bro. Sara is fussing with everyone and cussing everyone out. I wish nothing but the best for the brother, but I wish he were talking more about Afrikan unity and proposing "how to" steps instead of questioning the sexual orientation and the "blackness" of others. I will not blast him, but I'd like to see him do more constructive work. Peace.

[soldier2nd19th]

you know what the problem is? whenever a conscious black man is not a felon but has something good going for himself, hes automatically an agent. fuck sara

[bigmanj35]

What is that good you speak of having a white freind?Are they our enemy our not.

[brotehuti]

Peace, bigmanj35. If I understand you correctly, you're asking my opinion of if we should have white "Facebook friends". I say sure - why not. If you're seek to understand your friends and/or your enemies. You need to be able to know what makes them tick. Otherwise, everything will be guessing or theory. Peace.

[bigmanj35]

Brother, are you saying that our people have'nt had enough experience with the white man to know what their about by now?If thats so what does that say about us?

[brotehuti]

Peace, soldier2nd19th. Yeah, people let the shirt and tie fool them (smile). Peace.

[NewKokujinOptions]

Well-said. We need farmers, engineers, doctors, mathematicians, etc. Sitting here just saying that the people of Kemet invented all of these sciences and "it's in our blood" and not actually producing anything especially when we put down brothers that are trying to learn these things is complete madness and is keeping us stagnant.

[HiddenBlackHistory]

jeli hagin has put in work for a very long time

[AMENYAHEL32125]

YOU ARE SO WISE

[brotehuti]

Peace, Amenyahel. Just looking to learn from and share ideas with like-minded people.

[angelsnupnup7reborn]

@ BROTEHUTI, What a wonderful response video a brilliant addition 2 what allready has been said. There is too much work that must be done,such actions are a distraction, hinderance as well as detrimental to the cause we claim we support & love. I hope that our words fall upon ears that are NOT deaf by hype & entertainment. If we must BEEF with someone BEEF with an enemy like this undercover racist KkILO34 is 2 me. Thanx 4 this most needed sequel,one LOVE. Peace & RespectU

[bigmanj35]

Only ray knows if he's an agent,but teaching us that whites are wicked and have done evil to us,than turning around and having a white cop be one of your best freinds is very very suspect,as you are for defending him.Honestly im starting to wonder if your an agent.

[angelsnupnup7reborn]

@BIGMAN, Clearly you don't know anything about agents,an agent makes it very difficult to expose them,it is a joke they'd leave info on FaceBook. You may wonder & call me anything you wish...perhaps go to FaceBook all us agents hang out there,Lol Don't be silly & let Seti or anybody get you involved in what is clearly a personal gripe over DVD profits has nothing to do with Black Liberation just using people,RespectU

[bigmanj35]

No brother agents in the end are just human beings not super beings.And human beings have a habit of exposing themselves sooner or later.If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck its a damn duck.

[angelsnupnup7reborn]

@BIGMAN, You really haven't thought about what you're saying have you,you're only following Seti's lead,very sad. During the 1960's how many agents did our organizations report of finding,we didn't learn of them until after the organization was destroyed NOT by agents but by ourselves doing stuff like this ? Now we can go to FaceBook & expose so called agents how simple, Lol..the problem with your using the duck example is everything we call a duck may not in fact be a duck to begin with ? THINK

[bigmanj35]

The N.O.I and the black panther expelled many people who later turned out to be agents.Pick up a book and read brother.

[angelsnupnup7reborn]

@BIGMAN, Why do I need to pick up a book when I lived it sir ? I was introduced to NOI teachings in the early 1970's my relatives been in it for years. In 1981 I officially joined Louis Farrakhan. I was on the inside,I heard more stories than you'll ever read in a book. Again, agents do not bring attention 2 themselves they would not have a caucasion law officer as a friend on FaceBook. These people were found after the fact,again agents did not destroy these organizations,actions like Seti did

[bigmanj35]

You can try to spin it however you like a so called pro black brother being close freinds with a white cop that has govt connections is strange.

[bigmanj35]

As i said before brother their were many agents who were expelled,in both organizations its documented.

[angelsnupnup7reborn]

As I said before these so called agents were found after the fact,it is not easy to spot a spy or agent. They talk & act just like you,who is to say you're not a caucasion trying 2 pick my mind ? The white judge that freed me knew I called whites DEMONS & i HATED the caucasions that locked me up but she got to know that my hatred was limited 2 these specified few.I am NOT going to oppress & hate those who have done nothing 2 me,if this is Black Power I want nothing 2 do with it

[bigmanj35]

Do you think that america went to war with germany,then on the battle field tried to pick out the good and bad germans.Than do that brother get the hll out of the way and let other warriors stand strong.

[angelsnupnup7reborn]

America went 2 war with Germany because Germany began 2 intefere with America's ability to secure material wealth.America helped rebuild Germany & have good relations 2 day.They are now allies,you & your strong warrior friends are NOTHING but talk & hype,you've accomplished NOTHING so I'll be happy 2 get out of the way of those doing Nothing cause u can't even apply methods of the past least can u comphrend a new train of thought. U can sit in jail or starve while my allies will free/feed me

[bigmanj35]

I was making an analogy brother.When your at war you cant pick and choose.And since when have we ever had good relations with whites.

[angelsnupnup7reborn]

@BIGMAN, As a people we've not had good relations with whites cause the vast majority of caucasions were indoctorinated into White Supremacy it became a way of life for the slavemaster as well as the slave we still carry this mentality till this day. We still behaving like slaves & they slaveowners but since you r a historian why do we ignore Pastor John Brown a whiteman that was hung trying to free slaves,white abolitonist who fought in government or helped in Underground Railroad? Well???

[bigmanj35]

Brother if you read some of john browns speechs,like all other white abolishonist,he acted as if he owned blacks.And if you study greek history,you would realize whites have always been evil.

[angelsnupnup7reborn]

@BIGMAN, I am not a defense attorney 4 caucasion people in fact not in no way interested but I am a self thinker & use common sense.Why would a whiteman sacrifce his life 2 free blacks,even if he acted like he owned slaves he did not.Suffice to say who is your source,chances r those who supported slavery so would like 2 tarnish his name. It is sad we call whites evil cause they kicked us in our ass,we are sad losers.Prior 2 caucasions we were killing one another & still do so 2day,why we not EVI

[bigmanj35]

Brother your becoming more illogical every post, my sources are his own recorded speeches

[bigmanj35]

You clearly dont know history,and need to study the history of west africa.You also have this love for whites that is sickening

[angelsnupnup7reborn]

@BIGMAN, It is sad you've become sick with this desire of having Black Supremacy wishing 2 be a black version of racist white folks.The bottomline was John BROWN did NOT own slaves & instead of plea insanity he preferred hanging.I do NOT care about racial supremacy I care about freedom ,justice & equality for all.U do not represent justice u represent some form of revenge of which our ancestors should of dealt with but did not. I will fight your mentality comin into power no worry cause it won't

[bigmanj35]

I bet you will fight on the side of the whites no less,see what i mean by agents exposing themselves.

[tmotofga]

Beautiful words Angel.

[angelsnupnup7reborn]

@BIGMAN, I will no longer reply 2 your comments based on racial supremacy as that is a losing idea,it is the same mentality that placed us into this condition in the first place & u believe it will free you.Your history has been tainted just like whites pretty up their history in order 2 make yourself look good,if Africans were doing so good so righteous why did they fall? Keep being a black power gangster & I will sit back & watch u fail,in fact all u cats do is talk.Accomplished NOTHING

[bigmanj35]

Whites placed us in this condition house nigger,but its up to us to get ourselves out.Why did your beloved europe go into the dark ages,empires and peoples fall,dummy

[bigmanj35]

Im sure you will sit back and enjoy watching me fall cause your nothing but a lowly housenigger.

[angelsnupnup7reborn]

@BIGMAN, Lol how silly you are...since you admit you are on a path of failure why would you walk it ? You can call me anything you wish but you have no evidence to support what you say...maybe go 2 FaceBook, Lol

[bigmanj35]

I have your own words,house nigger,for everybody to see

[angelsnupnup7reborn]

@ BIGMAN, U can call me house nigger face 2 face my SKYPE account is The Reality's Temple....talk to me in person Zulu

[bigmanj35]

I dont want to talk to you face to face or go back and forth on these post,it is already proven what you are.Any body who attacks their own people is a house nigger.

[bigmanj35]

Oh and let me get this straight,we are not to hate and call evil,people that have enslaved,raped,murdered our people.But then you turn around and attack your ancestors and your people.

[angelsnupnup7reborn]

@BIGMAN, U have the right 2 hate those of whom have caused u harm but what about those that did not? Exactly how am I attacking my ancestors if telling us the truth is attacking then I am guilty cause nobody in human history has proven themselves as righteous. Someone has lied 2 U making u believe that our ancestors was this,when there was plenty of violence,human sacrifice,slavery etc. Whites just our performed them in these acts althou like whites made great accomplishments.Believer n fairytal

[bigmanj35]

Yes i hate my enemies and anybody who represents them.

[bigmanj35]

As far as human sacrifice,what are your sources,because every account i have read of europeans going into africa does not mention it.

[bigmanj35]

As a matter of fact if you read roman accounts britons were the cannabals.

[bigmanj35]

You also need to do some historical study,because you are very uneducated.You give more respect to a white man than your own people

[bigmanj35]

Im done you've just convinced me your a sick house nigger agent and should'nt be trusted by any brother or sister.

[tmotofga]

I trust him. Count me a Proud House Nigger and Uncle Thomas to go along with it. Peace or do you prefer Hotep or assalam alikum?

[bigmanj35]

I dont have shit to say to you house nigger traitor.

[bigmanj35]

I dont think you truly understand how desperate our situation is as a people,we are at war,we have no time to make freinds with the enemy.

[bigmanj35]

Am i saying they got all of them,not by any means,obviously.And i did'nt say people always expose themselves,but they do have a tendency,and we ignore those signs at our own peril.

[bigmanj35]

I cant think of his name but the housenigger that got geronimo pratt locked up was just one who was suspected as an agent almost from the begining.Our people were more savy than you think,the panthers in fact had double agents.