Christina Hoff Sommers on Violence Against Women

[8454515484]

Wait, wait, wait... So you're telling me that feminists LIE!?!?!?!

MY WORLD IS CRASHING DOWN!

[SaveTheMen]

I was talking to a judge last year and he said that so many women have "cried wolf" with restraining orders and domestic violence, that as a result, they city doesn't investigate them anymore. Stupid girls. Look at what they did to themselves. Now the women that really are victims, won't get the help they need. Yay for feminism.

[TerryB01]

Thanks God for women like Christina Sommers and Erin Pizzey. REAL women who can point out feminist BS and admit that they're wrong and men are right sometimes. They're STRONGER than those feminist claim to be.

Good to know there are still sane women in the world. Right fellas?

[MatheusLegenda]

@TerryB01 There are millions of sane women. Don't judge women by the behavior of radical feminists.

[TerryB01]

@MatheusLegenda I don't. I know there are sane women out there, I just haven't been lucky enough to find them.

[MatheusLegenda]

@TerryB01 Wow. That's sad. If you can't find any good women in this world, it most likely speaks more to the way you see the world, then the women who you come into contact with. It's sad if you only find out that there are good women through YouTube clips.

[TerryB01]

@MatheusLegenda I see the world as it is. I don't judge all women by the actions of a few bad ones I've met. That's as dumb as women doing that to all men when they've met a few bad ones.

I think the real problem for me is I need to go a bit further from where I live and try better places than bars and clubs. Think a mall or book store would be better?

[MatheusLegenda]

@TerryB01 Brother, we never see the world as it is. We all got our filters and schemas we've developed. I'm at the mall right now, and there are no more book stores here. I got good women in my family. Met good women from dating, from classes at school, social activities, and online. Depends on what kind of woman you're looking for. At bars you got to yell to be heard. People just go to dance and drink.

[MatheusLegenda]

@TerryB01 ... You should do what you're into, and you'll find cool people who are into the same things as you. If you go looking for a certain type of woman in a place, and she doesn't meet your expectations, you'll be frustrated.

[TerryB01]

@MatheusLegenda Lucky and I'll do that. New Year's Resolution is to get out of my rut and meet a good woman. Thanks for the talk MatheusLegenda, and have a Happy new year.

[MatheusLegenda]

@TerryB01 There you go, homie. Happy New Year to you too.

[FuckGayrece]

I dont understand how men when from brutal warriors chasing lions with spears, knocking women in the head and dragging them to their cave to pussy whipped pathetic no balls motherfuckers! WTF?

[TrueBlueCanuck]

juidging by your sexist video i say you're a feminist

[St37One]

@TrueBlueCanuck

I don't understand.

What do you mean?

[TrueBlueCanuck]

@TrueBlueCanuck because only feminists think that women are the only victims of violence

[St37One]

@TrueBlueCanuck

She doesnt claim or imply that women are the only victims of violence.

[TrueBlueCanuck]

@St37One where did she mention men?

[St37One]

@St37One

Elsewhere.

You should familiarize yourself with her work. She is a dedicated, brave, famous, well respected, and accomplished MRA, but yet apparently you like to jump to conclusions and make false assumptions.

[MatheusLegenda]

@St37One Christina Hoff Sommers is a feminist and she points out the unethical and destructive behavior of some modern day feminists. Has she ever identified herself as an MRA? She refers to herself as an "equity feminist" rather than the prevailing "gender feminists."

[St37One]

@MatheusLegenda

I don't know if she has ever identified herself as an MRA. I am calling her an MRA because, in effect, she is. And certainly, anyone who takes an interest in gender but also challenges the most established, fashionable, and sacred feminist notions will end up being labeled as an MRA, regardless of thier origins and how they chose to identify themselves. Will Farrel and Erin Pizzey are other examples of MRA's by default.

I like the terms equalist or individualist, but...

[MatheusLegenda]

@St37One Then, I'd caution you against labeling someone with a term that she has not self-identified with.

[St37One]

@MatheusLegenda

Why?

[St37One]

@MatheusLegenda

I meant Warren Farrell BTW, not Will Farrell.

[ycmgh]

this sure doesn't sound like homeland security



[Shouxiao]

These feminist shall not have their protection laws soon. When the completely economy collapses they won't be able to run to the government. Without government they can't survive.

[rexx1234567]

Increased domestic violence against women during the super bowl? I'm glad this was debunked. But what you DO see is an upward spike in the severity & frequency of anti-male/glorified violence against men in the super bowl commercials. Remember the Justin Timberlake Pepsi commercial? Or the "Don't Touch My Momma's Doritos" commercial? Both products are made by Frito-Lay. Needless to say that I don't (knowingly) buy their products ANYMORE AND YOU SHOULDNT EITHER. But it goes further than frito-lay

[Yazoo2564]

Great to see a woman speaking out on men and boys behalf. I wonder will it do much good though, unless these errors are corrected, which she pointed out they weren't. Just shows what feminists have been getting away with for years...disgraceful

[robtul12]

I absolutely love Christina Hoff Sommers.

[pkpapers]

Thanks for the videos on feminism. Please take a look at “Female Anti-Misandry Legislators, Judges & Writers: 1921-1954” in the new blog “The Unknown History of MISANDRY.” Women have always been the most effective opponents of misandry, but this historical fact is still ignored.

[YoungnRomantic]

I like this video. Telling the truth. Feminism is a fraud and always has been !

[capturedpilot]

Oh, God, I wish I could just go to another planet. Being a guy is just no fun on this planet.

[capturedpilot]

"Checking the facts" is an "unusual route for the media." Yep.

[NautyKnight]

(VAWA) Violence Against Women's Act. What about men? Do men not constitute as people too? Where is the (VAMA) Violence Against Men's Act? Why not a (VAPA) Violence Against People's Act? And feminists say men are privileged? Yeah right! Ever since 1970, men have been placed as 2nd class citizens compared to women. Hell, men might only be 5th class citizens considering dogs, cats, whales, and dolphins get more respect and better treatment than human men. Women have more protection than kids! Sad.

[YoungnRomantic]

@NautyKnight Well said sir !

[St37One]

@NautyKnight

Yes women have lots of "protection". But actually this "protection" is just a weapon against men, which ends up protecting men as an unintended consequence. Women are actually victimized by this VAWA system in being coerced into testifying, isolated from thier partners, indoctrinated, having thier relationships with men destroyed, and being murdered by thier spouse more often. Men are actually more protected since angry spouses can attack them legally without resorting to murder

[NautyKnight]

@St37One - I think you forgot to take your medicine. 

[rexx1234567]

@St37One Sorry, but a grown woman cannot be "coerced" into anything. Only a child can be "coerced". You never hear anyone say a man was "coerced". Men themselves would NEVER say that they have been "coerced", because they are actually adults, not 5 year olds in adult-size bodies. Nothing against you for your comment, I am just tired of hearing that word used to make women further appear as victims.

[St37One]

@rexx1234567

I'll bet that you would agree that these women are infact "coerced."

If being informed that you must testify in court against your partner, or else be found in contempt of court, is not coercion, then what is?

If being told authoritatively that you are a "victim" and that as a "victim" you must attend and comply with the special publicly funded domestic violence counciling/education that has been set up for you ("for your own good") is not coercion, then what is?

[rexx1234567]

@St37One I would say that they have either been "manipulated" or "influenced" That is, if there actually apart of the few women that are actually adults.

[St37One]

@rexx1234567

But there is a threat of sanctions such as jail time, fines, or other penalties, and that does fit into the definition of coercion.

[St37One]

@rexx1234567

The process depends on the jurisdiction. However there are some really nutty procedures in place to deal with this issue. Once a couple is separated into "perpetrator" and "victim", this classification will never be altered or reconsidered. The perpetrator and victim are boths subject to the authority of the family court, not the criminal court, even though it is a criminal matter. Normally both parties want to opt out of the system, but have no choice but to play by the rules.

[ProNorden]

What is the legal penalty for the fraud committed by feminist authors and publishers? Mostly criminal statutes applied? or mostly civil law suits to recover some multiple of damages?

The '80cents to the male dollar of earnings' fraudulent statistic also circulates widely, ..spread by the malevolence?/incompetence? of so-called journalists like Katie Couric (as one case in point that I recall on her evening newscast).

[pinegrove33]

thanks for posting this!

[St37One]

@pinegrove33

dont mention it!

Okay, you owe me one now.

[themanonthestreet]

Brilliant woman.

TMOTS

[thenfm]

keeping cunts in check: MANHOOD101. COM

[WhiteStar11111]

Burn Domestically Violent Romulus of Rome in effigy!!!

Oh wait.

[AVMamfortas]

"False claims are not the exception: they are the Rule".

Say it.

Say it.

Say it.

Say it.

[apekillssnake]

Poor girl she misread the study- so that is how it all happened, human error. Well I feel sorry for her now, Yep women are definately "victims" that must be protected. MRA's have it all wrong-look women are accepting this stuff now, they have held their hands up and therefore no harm should come to them! What a ploy, like no malice was involved.The female condition Qualia and a in-built cartography on men as an archetype must be exposed and put into a Law for MEN. Women embellish as a syndrome

[St37One]

@apekillssnake

you shouldn't talk about other peoples qualia.

[apekillssnake]

A woman is saying this stuff, it must be true then! MRA's have been saying this for decades. So by trumpeting her, it really exposes psychologically and poses the question why are women believed more than men? It proves we have made the female our demigog! Why dont MRA's understand that the psyche is always split. Whilst I expect she believes this stuff her shadow still takes power from male victimization! What impact does this video have on the female psyche as it travels!Whats on the outside!

[Minkki82]

I dont know why, but it sounds funny when americans say "world cup" XD no hate, I luv you guys in general. And Sommers is one isle of sanity in what otherwise seems to be a heard of idiotic women. hmm that wasnt that poetic, but you get the point

[toonzguy]

Check out her book "The War against Boys".....good stuff!

[apekillssnake]

Or rather this is a form of Misandry where the female shifts herself away from blame by assuming the authority or parent position over the male victim as child! Proving misandry to be a nature in women directed at men that is entwinded with womanhood itself!

[St37One]

@apekillssnake

You are diluting the concept of misandry in an attempt to destroy it's meaning.

You are probably a militant feminist posing as an anti-feminist to discredit the oppostition and waste their energy.

Im done wasting energy and time with this perpetual argument.

[apekillssnake]

@St37One What concept of Misandry-the hatred of men is not a concept! Its not diluting the meaning of Misandry- It has yet to be fully defined as to what all the subheadings of Misandry are, by the Mens Rights Movement- as feminists performed with chauvinism, sexism and misogyny etc.. you know, all that secret stuff it convinced the law lords and peers with! Trying to defame me as a Feminist- is an inclination as to the motives of how you would like to steer the MRM away from focusing on women!

[PoopShitMario]

@St37One Actually, he sounds like an MRA. Now, MRAs have a valid point of view, but he didn't elaborate his reasons for making the points that he made, which is common when a person is angry. To effectively get someone to see your point of view, things need to be elaborated in little logical steps, and that's a strategy that's difficult to employ in youtube comments. A video response of an email might be a better choice for that endeavor, otherwise he'll just be perceived as illogical and angry.

[apekillssnake]

@PoopShitMario Its not a question of anger my friend. What would be the point of releasing data here. I hope you are not trying to suggest that MRA's are angry or illogical, because that is something also leveled at fathers by women after forcing men out of their childrens lives- that they are just angry men. Or how women in the workplace when dealing with complaints from men say the man is angry or aggressive to be able to put away the man. Illogic is like saying someone is unstable-more tricks

[PoopShitMario]

@apekillssnake I am an MRA, I just think you're doing a disservice to the points you're trying to drive across by not elaborating on your logic step-by-step. I understand the limitations of youtube comment length, which is why perhaps you might opt for video responses or emails instead.

[apekillssnake]

@PoopShitMario I profile persons first, if they are sincere and ask questions I try to do that, if they come with ego or snide female behavior like commenting on another person behind that persons back and not inboxing to them personally, I think that is a kind of low thing to do!Especially when they try to take superior or higher ground! It does amaze me the attitudes of some youtubers that think like you.You're not a very good "MRA" if you have to have it proven to convince yourself. Most know

[PoopShitMario]

@apekillssnake You try to set traps for people to feed into your inferiority complex and attack them when they have done nothing to you. I actually tried to defend you, if you look back at my original post. You committed the logical fallacy of projecting someone else's belief system onto me and thus attempting to villify me. Go "be amazed" on feminist websites instead & stop attacking other MRAs who are "convinced" and assuming they're not because they disagree with your method of communicating.

[apekillssnake]

@PoopShitMario You're a psychological reptile that has learnt to abuse language. E.g "I tried to defend you- you have an inferiority complex and set traps for people". Thank Christ you aint nobodies lawyer, with that folk in your tongue! Dont pretend you know shit about psychology and dont try to tell me shit! The facts are in the comments box about the way you conducted yourself- so eat a shit, you dont know the first thing about logos to be trying to tell persons what a logical fallacy is!

[PoopShitMario]

@apekillssnake You know, I realized the funniest thing. If someone reads the post you just wrote, then reads the post it was replying to again, my post actually counters it. Why would you make a post if it gets auto-countered by a post that already exists? Also, if I am so far beneath you, why do you keep replying? Surely a well-read individual such as yourself would follow Mark Twain's quote of 'Never argue with an idiot, he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience'.

[St37One]

@PoopShitMario

I got so sick of that apekillssnake's comments that I actually blocked it. I could be wrong, but I suspected from the begining that it is actually a radical feminist. I just have trouble believing that it really is what it claims to be, but regardless I would rather not have that distracting patently absurd pointless nonsense on my channel. I just lose patience with pointless raging trolls. So go send it a pm if your hungry for more apeshit.

[PoopShitMario]

@St37One I don't care about him. He just seems angry and misguided. Hopefully one day he will figure out what logic is and stop posting based on emotion.

[PoopShitMario]

@St37One The sad part is, he will probably use my last post to justify it in his head like "he said he defended me but now he says he doesn't care about me, therefore hypocrite, therefore i will project this anger onto other people whose posts i reply to by flaming them", not realizing that he did something between when I defended him and now to change my mind about who he is as a person and not wish to defend him.

[St37One]

@PoopShitMario I just see it as a person fishing for hatred. There are people who actually spend their time trolling the internet, posing as radical hateful bigots of one sort or another in order to lure the members of a target group into saying something that will get them in trouble with the law. I really wouldn't be suprised. But then again, I wouldnt expect them to pose as somebody so excentric or incompetent with communication.

[megabrowser17]

In a world full of subtle indoctrination, few people can see the world around them for what it really is, both men and women. But even fewer men and women speak out so vividly against the oppression they see. God bless her, she really cares for everyone with all she can muster.

[TungstenOrWolfram]

ever have a girl get mad at you because she misheard something you said... then you try to say it again, but she says it doesn't matter because she's already mad?

[Timmmay33]

We need to get everyone to push up the number of viewings for this video...

[St37One]

@Timmmay33

any help is greatly appreciated

[apekillssnake]

I predicted this in recent comments on MRA Channels.

Uploads like this anger me. It replaces one magic trick with another, and that's of women/feminists trying to seek validation for their sex in response to growing awareness and support for MRA's, where women have been consummate lairs for the past 40yrs. The professionals who make up the system, are the ones who disseminated "the lie", and are now trying to defer responsibility away from themselves in advance of the system being exposed.

[St37One]

@apekillssnake

what you have just implied about this speaker is false pre-supposition.

Christina Hoff Sommers has been a "feminist" who has openly challenged and loudly spoken out against the dominant trends in feminism ever since the early 90's. She has been an MRA for a while.

She is doing what any principled and honest libertarian would do, even though she started out as a feminist scholar, and still identifies as a feminist. You ought to familiarize yourself with her written work.

[apekillssnake]

@St37One I wholeheartedly disagree. You are NOT accounting for personal psychology or studying the motive/motivations being used here. Women use "personality-strands" when it comes to convincing others of their humanism. You can see this in women who say that they do not support feminism when they do. You have not studied this to the same decade of study I have looked at this from the position of psycho-analysis in which I examine women and the professional more closely! I appreciate upload thou

[St37One]

@apekillssnake

I dont know what you mean by "humanism" or "personality strands".

But I am convinced that psycho analysis is unfalsifiable B.S.

Regardless, you should be able to appreciate the ideas that this speaker is promoting, regardless of her identity. You should also read her books from the 90's.

[apekillssnake]

@St37One Her motivation-if you examine her linguistics is to not in her view have anarchy-from the proof that feminists influence on a poltical economy has shown it to be a self-centred and flawed science like female logic.This is what I mean about humanism-she is appealing effectively for calm when she has caused the events and this can be examined right down to women who cause violence and then appeal for calm.You would say its all BS because you strike me as a subversive pacifist on men abuse

[St37One]

@apekillssnake

Male politicians and female politicians can and should be presumed to be spineless vote-whores, PR-whores, and machiavellian strategists who misrepresent themselves.

I do not expect or demand honesty from politicians, but unfortunately many do, and I still dont know what you mean by "personality strands".

If you think that I am a pacifist, your'e nuts!

[apekillssnake]

@St37One You are using a personality strand now, this professed unawareness is a prime example of one! Or more simple speak if you and I would have this conversation on the street you would not be so confident, you'd probably be completely different and then like a feminist creep away and be completely different.You see this massively with women as a sex. Politicans are not men, they may sex men but they have much more in common with female psychology than mans thats how feminists got into power

[St37One]

@apekillssnake

So, professed unawareness is a prime example of a "personality strand".

I agree with you that women tend to be more indirect in thier agression/self defense, and that feminists employ the same indirect, two faced, subterranian strategy.

I just dont think that this is really relevant here.

Women, along with the truth, are both our allies.

[apekillssnake]

@St37One now you got it. "False"professed unawareness. Strands are a criminal psychology term, where the persecutor pretends to be the persecuted. Its so effective it has been used on innocent men accused of DV to say they are lying! I'm not disputing the truth about her comments, MRA's know them to be the case. However examination is not only relavant its massively relavant if MRA's want to know how the system really is. You are wrong women can never be the allie of man because of their shadow.

[St37One]

@apekillssnake

your language is obscure

I dont like to guess boldly at or misrepresent someones meaning.

Uncovering common tricks, fallacies, and evasions is of course very key.

It might even be possible to accurately convict and punish certain politicians and professionals of hate crimes, war crimes, fraud, or other crimes, and thus deter others. But regardless, we need to look to the future.

[apekillssnake]

@St37One Spoken like a true politican- we dont need to look to the future- we need to assess the past. Men are told as a matter of point to "move on" by family court justices for the exact same reasons- to not have disclosure. All of these behaviorisms by these personality-types needs to be examined first! I urge all skilled persons in psychology, philosophy, the social sciences and politics to start using their minds and begin research into what all this means for humanity at this very moment.

[St37One]

@apekillssnake

Im not telling you to "move on," I am telling you to think about concrete goals, plans, objectives.

Having disclosure about past events is important and relevant.

I also know that justice is not perfect, and people get away with crap, and are falsely convicted. I dont imagine that we can derive a more perfect justice system through enlightenment on personality types/psycho analysis.

[apekillssnake]

@St37One Yeh, you are starting to get on my nerves now. You're condescending, that's why I have had run-ins with you before. Last time I checked I didn't need a therapist, you sound like a female to me! You're as confused as Feminism and as dishonest as the woman in the upload. Another subversives claim out of you "its not a perfect justice system". Your rhetoric is amazing, afriad of being found out! Psychological-analysis of the family court system and women IS the only way it will be beaten!

[St37One]

@apekillssnake

Im pretty sure that you are another psycho-feminist.

[apekillssnake]

@St37One Well we both know who is the better profiler now, don't we!

Females who seek to address the facts about male disposability out of feminism, or males victimhood in family law are secretly trying to reinforce the female internalized edifice- which is the oppression of men and female empowerment inside their own psyche. Subconscious tells prove this to be the case. It's a form of re-internalization of innate assertions to maintain female-power over men. clearly you know nothing about mind

[WhiteStar11111]

@apekillssnake

What you write is nonsensical.

[apekillssnake]

@WhiteStar11111 Something you dont understand isn't "nonsensical", that's just sophistry from a solipsist!

[poligon333]

When America economicaly fall the feminist agenda will be the least of the things the modern woman will care about I am curiouse how strong and independent they will be then.

[cavejourney]

This is why I ignore the "social sciences". They start with the conclusion and then look for facts to support it. Sociology is no more respectable than astrology or creationism.

[manwomanmyth]

She did a great job here, it's such a shame that it won't be heard by many people other than those who already know.

She says, regarding the dissemination of false statistics: "[People] unwittingly contribute to this twisted deception".

Unwittingly? The propaganda is a deliberate hate-crime and she is being way too generous in letting Eric Holder and anyone else who's a part of it, off the hook. They know exactly what they are doing.

[Nebelung13]

@manwomanmyth

She is way too generous, i think she is trying to reach a middle of the road, but unfortunatly the people she is trying to appeal to, by being "generous", don't give a shit.

[St37One]

@manwomanmyth

I was expecting that this jem would get 10,000,000 views that it deserves ;P

I think that your pessimism is premature.

LOL

[apekillssnake]

@St37One Here is a little psychological proof about women!

Go look at the upload "Sarah Palin are you a Feminist?". To see females personality-strands in action! Or you can look at the videos of how Hillary Clinton "misspoke"! I refer you again to my original comment. What do you think Feminists who expose feminism are about- they are about illusions and public control! The STATE in the West MUST, I repeat MUST be held accountable for what they have done- NOT let off with a females "free pass"!

[manwomanmyth]

Thanks for this.

If only the truth actually mattered as much as it should.

[St37One]

@manwomanmyth

The truth does matter as much as it should.

Love it, or hate it, it is very powerful.

Like gravity, it has luck on its side, so it is better to try to stay on its good side.