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  • The crises is in large part due to Fannie and Freddie underwriting lots of mortgages that should never have been made and others (like AIG) stupidly getting caught up in that (swaps,etc). FreddieFannie always fought attempts at overhauling them. McCain at least tried in the 90s. Obama--well he is no. 2 (behind Dodd)in "donations" from FreddieFannie. Obama is just another political hack. McCain at least goes against the tide on some things. (And Clinton had a Republican Congress.)

  • You know what? This is a waste of my time. I could be changing some poor Obama voters mind, and instead I'm here debating with some UK ponce that doesn't know the first thing about America and what it needs. I don't nose into your countries politics, so buzz off and go brush your teeth.

    By the way, my America is leading the world in new energy technologies, not UK. Why don't you go do something about that? I will be voting for McCain because McCain offers more freedom, less government!

  • "I will be voting for McCain..."

    McCain has alway voted against tax credits to promote alternative energy. It's only because of this energy crisis that he now talks about it. McCain has always voted against regulation and oversight of Wall St, but is now changing his tune because of the financial crisis.

    McCain is part of the old-boy-network that got us into this mess, and now you think John will lead the way toward "new energy technologies" ?!?

    How's that Kool Aid taste, hlyfire?

  • At least McCain has stated his policy. What does Barack plan to do SPECIFICALLY about the energy crisis??

    Nobody knows because he skirts around the issue every time...he never gives a clear answer unless it's raising taxes somewhere.

    Oh, wait...he did give a clear answer on his energy policy...we should inflate our tires. I don't know about you, john, but that definitely spells out energy independence for me!

  • haha obama won

  • Don't tell me what America needs when you don't live here! Why do other countries insist on giving their opinions on American politics?? America is not stupid enough to fall for Obama, and those who do have been duped by his sensationalist, emotional campaign.

    The whole reason for off-shore drilling is to decrease dependence on foreign energy sources! I definitely agree with that! Obama thinks that we can just inflate our tires to save gas...how stupid!

  • "America is not stupid enough to fall for Obama"

    You seem stupid enough to fall for McCain. McCain has alway voted against tax credits to promote alternative energy. It's only because of this energy crisis that he now talks about it. McCain has always voted against regulation and oversight of Wall St, but is now changing his tune because of the financial crisis.

    Did you not know this, hlyfire? Is your ignorance of McCain's record causing you to vote for him. What gives?

  • You have aptly demonstrated ignorance. Sarah Palin is clearly the most pro-alternative energy name in the whole country.

    And as for McCain's sudden interest in the economy...of course he is for government intervention--SHORT TERM. The democrats want their grubby little fingers on it ALL THE TIME.

    It equally astounds me when you refuse to acknowledge Obama's voting record when he voted that sex education should be taught in KINDERGARTEN!!

  • does it bother you that for al your shit-slinging, both of them are still infinitely smarter than you?

  • Right...that's debatable, seeing how I'll be in med-school by 2010 and they will still just be professors. Oh, wait, sorry...Bill was fired wasn't he? Yeah, REAL smart.

  • while the two grown adults cursing each other out seems rediculous to some people, what about the grown man who starts crying at the end????

  • LOL!!

  • i go to FHSU. i love my professors. they are awesome!

  • i would never let my kids go anywhere near a school that would hire this barefoot idiot in the first place

  • All college professors are like this, because they're almost all union liberals. So unless you plan on sending your kids to a private school, they'll have to put up with nonsense equivalent to this everyday.

  • It ain't nonsense. Its a debate which is suppose to get heated up. "because they're all union liberals"??? This line just goes to show how much you're an idiot.

  • Dude your an idiot, I have had republican, and democrat professors. Unless your making more than 200k off of slave/miniumwage labor you should thank god for unions. Do your history if it wheren't for 20k woman and children getting shot by the police for protesting against unfair working conditions in NYC in the early 1900's your pay check would be very small right now.

  • Then your kids won't be able to pull themselves out of a heated debate. They'll have to thank you for that.

  • Or I could just be like you and the "professors" in the video and start namecalling when I get mad. You liberals are so easy to manipulate...no wonder you are duped into voting for Obama.

    I've had plenty of heated debates and I've seen plenty--none of which turn out like this.

    And by the way, almost all college professors are union, and they are liberal. Have you even been to college? Probably not, since you use the slang word "ain't".

  • "Or I could just be like you and the "professors" in the video and start namecalling when I get mad. You liberals.."

  • "Or they could be like you who hasn't reached puberty and starts crying when confronted. You retarded liberal.."

  • Using the word "ain't" does not mean I probably haven't been to college. Also I guess you must be voting for McCain since he's twirled you around his little finger because his magic works with you, the narrow minded fool. You cannot see through nor beyond politics and knows nothing about current affairs and world status. Also picking out words like "ain't" for your argument plainly states you cannot debate with in-depth matters. Don't be shallow, I'm sure you lost most of your debates this way:)

  • You're wrong, naxxy. I don't like John McCain. I do, however, think that he is a much better choice than Barry the socialist. Do you know why Barack Hussein won't come out of the closet and state his policies? I'll tell you why, because if he does America will not elect him! He's absolutely not electable. Remember what I say, because this is important. If barack gets in and raises taxes like he wants, the economy will be utterly destroyed.

  • I have questions for you, and I hope that you answer truthfully (as there is no way to verify your answers on youtube).  Have you been to college?

    Are you really from the UK? If so, why are you debating with me about American politics?

    What does world status have to do with anything? Who cares? All I care about is keeping America free and keeping it the strongest nation on earth.

  • I guess you have been to college and had your teachers spit crap in your mouth which you are throwing up here. Being from the UK, born in China or New Zealand or wherever does not mean one doesn't know about American politics. America doesn't have a "special" politics so secretive that no one knows about. You're just getting too much over your head there. Off shore drilling? "I agree with George Bush and his plans of progress", "I have entered my wife in the biker's pageant!"

  • And which american presidential canditate would make a campaign featuring and insulting American Citizens, Paris Hilton & Britney Spears, which became the most stupid ad in a political campaign? If you would rather a follower take care of you and your country then you should love McCain but if you are after a leader which America is in dire need for, then Obama will make it. McCain has two arguments: Taxes and Oil. World is suffering, not USA but the 'WORLD' from CO2 emmision because of oil.

  • "Being from the UK, born in China or New Zealand or wherever does not mean one doesn't know about American politics." You really don't know how to debate do you? I never claimed that American politics are secretive. This just goes to show that your own country (along with the germans and canadians) is so dang boring that you have to nose your pale ass into politics that matter.

    America will be glad to have George Bush back if Barry the socialist ruins the economy.

  • You only managed to debate your argument based on the fact that I'm from another country and you are telling me I can't debate? That's the only little thing you could come up with after I blasted your head off with undeniable facts? Haha! Yes you are indeed pathetic my boy.

  • What undeniable facts?? haha, all I see are unsubstantiated claims, so that's what makes it funny. 

    Have you ever seen Kung Pow? Remember that guy who thinks that losing means that he is winning? That's what you are like...if I beat your ass (like I have) you think your ahead. It's ok, I blame your government.

  • Kung Pow? You blame my government? You watched way too many films when you should have learnt how to debate before claiming you are winning. Read from the start to the finish and swallow your disapointment like a man. Don't cry about it blaming my government because you do not even know which country I'm from. You assume too much and in the end your assumptions' slapped you hard in the face. You are too desperate to engage in a debate. Go back to reading your romantic storybooks LMAO!

  • "America will be glad to have George Bush back if Barry the socialist ruins the economy"

    Just like Bill the socialist ruined our economy in the 90s. Your views are priceless, hlyfire. Doesn't sound like you do much reading. Sounds like you're a Limbaugh/Hannity diciple. Try to get a clue. We don't need another recession like Bush 41 and Bush 43 gave us.

  • "Bill the socialist" as you have rightly named him was simply riding the wave of prosperity that was brought on by the Reagan administration, just like Bush 41.

    Besides, your argument doesn't hold water because Obama's plans for the economy are radically different than Slick Willy's (you don't read much...do you). At least Bill Clinton balanced the budget. Barack Hussein's ideas are so heavily dependent on taxation that the economy will shrivel up along with YOUR paycheck...if you work.

  • Ain't is now a word. It's a generational thing. Admitingly though I'm with you, I don't like the word "ain't" I don't use it; I also think using the 'fan boys' to start sentences should be considered bad grammar, it doesn't make sense from a boolean logic point of view. I.e. What are you or-ing, your not or-ing nothing you offer no alternative to evaluate a true expression, your language makes no sense from a strict interpretation of its use. anyhow.

  • I never said anything bad about unions first of all. But teachers and professors within union organizations affect educational policies. Many of them, if not most, are liberal.

    So don't piss on me and tell me it's raining...colleges are NOT evenly conservative/liberal.

    "...not or-ing nothing...". Seriously, don't try to correct my grammar when you are using double negatives. Kids do that.

  • I have graduated from FHSU and I can assure you that this is not a representation of the facuilty at FHSU. I appoligize for his behavior as I have no way to explain it.

  • You don't represent him thus you can't apologize for his behaviour. You have no way to explain his behaviour because you're not intelligent enough to understand that some people will stand up and fight for what they believe in. You saw him do what he did but you didn't listen to what your professor said. Its a shame.

  • Fort Hays State University has just announced that it has fired Bill Shanahan.

  • Yeh its because they're scared of him now. They know he ain't afraid to let his emotions and feelings flow in a debate. Fort Hays State University would rather employ zombies who don't say shit and stands in a room like a damn robot.

  • yep. now lets go suck up to our overlords for a raise.

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