All you got to do to see that 911 was an inside job is look at the way bush acted he had no surprise, NO SHOCK at all he just sat there. If i was pres and someone came and told me we are under attack i would of been SHOCKED ! He just sat there, watch the vid and the way he acts and you can tell it's an inside job. TO FUCKIN OBVIOUS!!! THE FIRST REACTION SHOULD OF BEEN SOMETHING OTHER THAN SIT THERE LOOKING GUILTY.COMON PEOPLE GO ARREST THE REAL TERRORIST!!!!!
America, you need the worlds biggest tube of sex lube, cause you all got fucked. Core cut to 30 or so foot segments from top to bottom? Both towers? Pancake my ass. You got done, and you got done hard on 911. And guess what you are still being done.
Why was the rate of collapse so uniform if the damage was primarily on the area of impact? Why was so much concrete crushed into such a fine powder? Why was there molten metal under the rubble, which was "flowing like lava" according to the crews there? All this needs to be explained before i even consider the possibility of the official story being true.
@XmadmanREBornX Why was the rate of collapse uniform? Consider the sheer amount of weight contained in the portion of the building above the impact, suddenly falling down on the tower below, crushing each floor one at a time like a stack of pancakes, each time adding more weight. Concrete was crushed into a fine powder? Possibly, but source that. Molten metal "flowing like lava"? You need to source that too. The metal never melted, it was softened and bent by the intense fires.
@footjob56 You are not understanding the point of what NOVA said. The statement that they are trying to make is that because the trusses (that were responsible for holding the columns) failed due to the fire, the columns floated freely. The columns twisted and buckled under the weight of the top of the buildings - leading to the collapse of both towers.
are you stupid or what, they said the beam were floating UNTIL the put the floor in and attach evrething in plus puttin the CONCRETE, you are theone putting on shuit here
American Society of Civil Engineers VS the number of people who signed.
325.4 people per year.
0.89 people per day.
I don't have to prove any statistics in numbers, to prove few people even care!
It doesn't take the most Popular or longest running website to even gain more then that. sometimes, it only takes one year. Still under 20,000 members in 5 years isn't doing very well!
Nova may have over simplified it in that one small clip of their video, but it's not necessarily an act of deception. The point they were no doubt making is the fact that the buildings did not have a conventional steel skeleton. The Towers used floors as part of the skeleton. What a big mistake! These buildings should never have been built to begin with, and is probably why they aren't being rebuilt.
@midatlanticcycle How was it a complete waste, it shows people what the building were like during construction. Everyone can see how it was built and the size of the core columns.
So, you claim that NOVA lied by showing simplified graphics of the basic structure of the towers which were not to scale. Sure they did, but it wasn't a lie. It was simplified graphics to explain the structure. They never said it was exact. What was exact was Leslie Robertson showing how the trusses were attached to the bands around the building.
You are making much out of nothing and then making nonsensical accusations. Shame on you!!
In theory, Only one floor's steel beams need to break for the floors above to collapse in in it. So one floor would fall on another and those 2 floors will fall on another and so on. Even if the steel beams didn't break, they could have been weakened enough by the fire to not support the floors above it.
@FriedRiceINC each floor was made by 4 sections attached to the core structure, they couldn't collapse all together from the same weak point because there wasn't, also fires with high temperature enough to weak any structural steel were restricted to few small areas if there was any, the overall building was clearly intact and undamaged therefore impossible to collapse.
@cipihevent The fires were spread all over several floors not one, so if one whole floor was on fire and each of the colums were weakened or knocked out by the plane, one floor would fall into another and the uilding would colapse(sorry for bad spelling)
The WTC were built in skeletal steel which means that there 2 types of columns. the Core and the exterior column there were no interior columns. When the planes it destroyed dozens of exterior columns from the front and also the back. this means that there are only few columns supporting the building but that is not enough for the building to collapse. Dont forget that there is fire burning with jet fuel that burn so hot that it WEAKENS the steel but never melted it.
look.. i am a student of engineering here but i agree with nova because they are showing you the columns if they are not supported with beams... if you try to build a building without beams then it would loo like jelly. They are showing you that because the fire in the world trade center is so hot that it WEAKENS the beams. GRAVITY did all the rest. Its not only 1 floor that is in fire but there are more than 4 floors burning with jet fuel. Plus the CORE columns are not covered with concrete.
to all you conspiracy theorist clowns commenting on this video...do some structural engineering studying before you post your ridiculous bullshit messages on here. the simple fact of the matter is that both towers were skeletal steel structures with 3 critical components being the floor trusses, the center support columns, and the sidewalls. when one or more were critically damaged, the buildings were doomed to failure regardless of fires or heat related damages.
@midatlanticcycle The buildings were designed to withstand the impact of a 707 taking out many structural components. It was the fire which weakened the trusses which made the floors sag. Then,
"NIST found that sagging floors pulled inward on the perimeter columns: 'This led to the inward bowing of the perimeter columns and failure of the south face of WTC 1 and the east face of WTC 2, initiating the collapse of each of the towers.' " (Wikipedia, "Collapse of the World Trade Center")
Mr. Levy told NOVA that the towers came down because the jet fuel melted the structural steel. That's loony tunes. Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel.
@punxsutawneybarney It weakened the steel, not melted. Anyone with basic knowledge of physics can understand that, and with all the other fuel (Office material, plastic, carpeting, etc.) It was possible. Tell me, if they used explosives to bring the towers down, why was the point of failure at the holes where the planes hit? You realize that the floors that were damaged had the fire proofing removed so that they could replace it. If a fire wasn't an issue, why fire proof the steel, hmm?
@Waroftheworlds112 If you watch the videos of the north tower you can see that the initial failure was on floors above the impact zone. The top "block" telescoped for several stories before the floors under the impact zone began to fail.
I agree the floor truss system was weak link and would easily be the first thing to fail, but they only provided horizontal support and the outer and center structure was for the vertical strength, was the plane and fire enough to make the centre structure fail to then pull the outer structure inward. This is the only way the building could fail? The tower did not twist, the top disintegrated and fell straight down.
Do you really think Nova was "in on it?" Do you realize how many people would have to have been involved if this was a "government conspiracy?" How did they place tons of explosives or thermite into these building without anyone noticing? They would have to tear out drywall to access the support columns to place these explosives. Out of the thousands of people who worked there, don't you think someone would have noticed? If you know the answer, please respond.
Put simply, Nova tried to make the public believe that the WTC towers had NO horizontal structural members, in either the core or the outer bearing wall.
Actually, we should thank Nova. By "illustrating" how it allegedly happened using CGI, they made it more obvious that the "pancake theory" was a flagrant lie.
Thank you for this 5 minutes of pure comedy. Unfortunately, the only correct point of the video is...well you got the name of the song right so I'm tempted to give you a thumbs for that only.
who ever is not stupid knows that these tours were giants,standing since the 60's,built to resist any blow up to 13 thousand tons...!!!!a fully loaded plane would punch only 3000 tons..!!!!!!..even with the speeds announced..the speeds were false anyway...say pro airliner pilots,not possible at sea level.....they lied on everything...why...?????????
What you don't seem to understand: Osama attended MIT in Cambridge, MA, where he studied STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING! He knew exactly how to take the towers down!
Nova has nothing to gain by putting out a less-than-honest explanation of what happened on 9/11. I believe they've got it right.
I also lost family and friends under the rubble of the WTC, so take your dumb, misguided theories and shove them!
This video is complete nonsense. The NOVA stuff IS correct. The basic concepts of the columns IS CORRECT. You "TM" nuts go and learn a few things about building construction before you start producing idiot videos like this.
The floors don't hold vertical loads. They provide stability and strength to the columns. They transmit the loads but they don't hold them. They are held by a bracket and a 3/4 inch bolt. What do you think results when 1/3 of the building lands on that?
No alu plan can first go direct in building at first and then columms..its like trying cut steeal over whit butter..stupid..is was media fakery..rocket go in and the termite and lots of bombs..and even that have a problem if not wee seeing collums at buttom cut over and witnnes soo smoke and explosions.
You can't fool me NOVA with your science and reason. I'm too smart to examine the evidence and figure out what the most likely senerio was for the towers collapse. I think it was done with Holograms and gravity rays!
I see another 28 story building in China has been burning for hours on nearly every floor, 42 dead many people burned. Yet suprise suprise it's still standing there. Now china isn't exactly known for it's health and safety and sprinkler systems yet there is no sign of collapse and thats because steel framed skyscrapers dont collapse due to fire, but the science is oviously different in New York lol
Lol fucking lol. Im convinced a child has analysed this. So what you are saying is that the trusses dont hold the perimeter columns to the core columns. Fuck sake not a clue about structures.
@markc2511" .....Then they show trussers that hold tight together the whole structure. (this is the only right thing that nova shows)." The wrong things are:" ....thin floating beams..." and the picture from above in which I wrote: "this is a typical of the deceptive illustrations misrepresenting the structural core of the building and wrong proportion of the core itself."
The official conspiracy theory flagrantly misrepresents the nature of the WTC 1 and 2 cores.
The WTC cores were basically "buildings within buildings." They were conventional post and beam structures with immensely strong steel columns and beams running both vertically and horizontally, welded into a dense 3D "jungle gym" matrix.
Even if we believe the floors "pancaked," which they didn't, these cores would have been left standing. The "pancaking" theory is absurd.
the core was the main support of the structure. It was not weak or floating. It should of remained standing if a "pan cake" collapse had occurred. Nova and Pm were used to explain the lie by cooking data. If I knew nothing about the building structure, it would of fooled me also.
@MrEmerye In both towers the cores remained standing much longer after the floors and exterior columns had collapsed. However, they could not have been expected to survive due to the extreme damage sustained by the upper blocks falling on them and the damage from the collapse of the surrounding floors and exterior columns. For bother tows you can see core columns leaning over and snapping off as the structure falls apart. Controlled is the last thing I'd call it.
@600will They didn't pancake - this has since been disproved by the government officials. It did take longer than 10 seconds to fall. No thermite (or thermate) was found in the tower - this is a rumour. The aluminium turned molten orange and dripped. The steel structures were cut in a diagonal by the clean up team - there are photos and footage of this. There were still four stories of the core still standing.
@Clarrisani How can you say there was no thermite found when it had never been tested for foreign accelerants??? HMMM?? 90% of the rubble was shipped off for destruction and recycling before any investigation could even BEGIN!!! So ignorant of the facts.. And when thermate was found in dust samples (as in hundreds of samples tested by those willing to do so) - everyone denies it like it doesnt matter... Molten meta was found 8weeks after and you think thats from the planes??? GO FUCKEN FIGURE!!
@ryconster "How can you say there was no thermite found when it had never been tested for foreign accelerants". Which means it hasn't been found either. Works both ways. And yes, the area was cleared with some parts sent off to be investigated. Also, the molten metal has been explained on various sites and is not consistent with thermite/thermate. As for the dust samples - again, inconsistancies. Please see Debunking911 site for details.
@Clarrisani Even NIST acknowledged the steel was NOT tested for foreign accelerants... It was only those who had the courage to specifically search for foreign accelerants which prior to 911 - even NIST explained in their book 'Fire Investigation Handbook' countless times to test for EVERYTHING especially when there is a global collapse in a building. The US govt could never have a fully funded independant report.. That is the conspiracy,, not crazy at all, people are just naive.. full stop..
@Clarrisani since a real investigation has never been performed and the 9/11 commission wasnt put together til well after a year of 9/11 almost all traces of thermite have been cleaned up. what you cite is pure bull.
@vengencefrom1979 That is, of course, if thermite was there in the first place, which it wasn't. There has been "real" investigations, as you call it. If you've actually looked into what went on at Fresh Kills you'll see that every piece of debris was checked at the site. They had teams working round the clock.
It is most clear to anyone who has done their research PROPERLY that 9/11 was an OUTSIDE job.
aka What is actually true and proven in comparison to baseless conspiracy theories made up by those unable to accept their country is prone to outside attack.
@Clarrisani In this particular NOVA show, the WTC towers 3D CAD mock ups show a structure that is NOTHING AT ALL similar to the actual towers. The truss designs are dissimilar and the core structure are very dissimilar! The cores were tied into one another with 16" wide steel cross beams! They also grow in density in relationship to the height. i.e. thinner and lighter at the top to thicker and heavier at the base. The center of gravity is very close to ground level. Controlled demo!
How much did one of those floor assemblies weigh? There were 84 of them in each tower.
So how is it that after almost NINE YEARS we never see the total weight of a floor assembly? How have the people who claim to know physics not demanded that information by now? We are supposed to do physics without data?
I'm a little confused....so is this saying that horizontal spandrels laterally supported the columns?....Then how would they say that the columns were free standing if they were supported laterally every floor level?....that seems ludicrous to me....I'm no expert, but I'm just going by what I have leaned.
@tomislavlac The concrete was used on the floors only. The core was not reinforced with concrete such as the older standard skyscrapers. They used fire resistant drywall as well as F.R. sprayed-on foam to reduce weight. The problem with those 2 methods is they are not strong. Much of the fire proofing had either been blown away or broken off from the planes impact.. Once the floor joists broke loose from the angle brackets, there was nothing to keep the outer columns from falling outward/away.
@gimme2utah1 really??? so the plane caused the fireproofing to blow off 110 stories?? wow amazing.. So 15top stories piledrived 85 stories in 10seconds?? 15stories crushed 85 stories comming down through the greatest path of resistance?? aahaha your logic is futile.. absolutley futile and USELESS.. You DUMMY, the entire global collapse was INSANE, concrete being pulverised DUST in midair.. FUCKEN WAKE UP DUMBASS
@ryconster I didn't say the plane blew off F.P. on every floor. Just at the planes impact area. Once the floor trusses(impact area) sagged from the heat, they broke loose from the angle brackets on either the outer beams, inner core beams or both. The 45,000t(wtc1) or 100,000t(wtc2) weight crashing down from the upper floors was too much for the 1300t capacity of EACH floor below. Once the flooring broke loose, lateral stability of the inner + outer columns was compromised.
@gimme2utah1 Doesnt explain nothing dude, if a pancake could explain it, you wouldnt see a global collapse in less than 11 seconds dude, and simulations proved that the core columns would have still been standing.. Instead you see a complete global collapse in 10seconds and you can literally see steel core columns and outer exterior columns being ejected outwards at high speeds. The building literaly disintergrates.. Doesnt collapse other wise you would see floors stackd upon each other
@ryconster Watch this clip of the north tower. Much of the core still remained. Some columns as tall as 700ft. You'll see spires of columns break off and fall.
watch#!v=f928i-n9kP4 The collapse of both towers may have seemed as if controlled but in fact they were a mess. Severely damaging or destroying buildings as far away as 400ft. in every direction. These were MASSIVE structures. The outer sections that fell really didn't seem to be exploding,(IMO) just being pushed away, falling outward.
@gimme2utah1 and dude i seen that clip but you will see its not the core at all..its the exterior columns but not the core, the core has been completley rip out and the floors have obviously come down in a vacum.. VERY FAST
@ryconster With all due respect, Those are NOT the exterior columns still standing in that video. With no flooring left to connect/support to the outer columns, they would just topple over. Between 13 sec.+19 seconds that IS the core you're looking at. Also, I disagree the towers came down at free fall speed. If that were true, then the many pieces falling from the top would not outrace the rest of the building to the bottom.
@ryconster I also looked into the possiblity of demoltions being used. I was shocked to find out how many manhours and charges would be needed for just a 9 story building. Over 4000 charges, 100lbs thermite per beam, 3000+ manhours and that's for a GUTTED building. Not a building where wallboard, furniture etc. would hafta be removed and replaced + while people were still occupying it. Take those nmbrs and X by 25 and you'll have the 2 towers + wtc7. It just seems very unlikely CD was used IMO.
@ryconster Not to mention that no evidence was found by ANYONE of shock tubes, blasting caps remnants, det cord, copper backing from explosive charges...nothing, but a weak rumor of "nano nano super thermite" made by one of the lead players of the the truth movement. Which could have been anything from the many chemicals found in everyday items that were pulverized in the collapse.
@gimme2utah1 okay, whatever you say.. I guess though, with the fires burning underground for more than 2months not much would be found, not even whole body parts were found just 150bone fragments.. Nothing was found intact.. Everyting was pulverised to dust.. BUt i guess your'e entitled to your opinon.. Doesnt mean its the truth though.. Nano wasnt a rumor though.. It was literally found in abundance in the dust.. Estimated tons and tons of it
@gimme2utah1 yeah woteva.. have fun trying to prove a lie.. 11seconds in my opinion is pretty close to freefall speed..8.5seconds is freefall.. Very simple formula to work out freefall speed.. At the end of the day 11seconds - 8.5 seconds leaves 2.5 seconds of resistance.. go figure.. Pancake?? dont think so
What the hell is -8.5 seconds? Your telling me that if I drop an object from a height of 100 feet and an object from the height of 500 feet, they will hit the ground in 8.5 seconds? The number your looking for is -9.81m/s(squared). That's the acceleration due to gravity on earth. All objects fall at this speed, unless there is some sort of resistance. Before you start talking physics, make sure you know what the heck your talking about. ryconster knows physics, I don't think so.
@NYSP22DAVID no silly billy, 8.5 seconds is the time at which the south tower fell at.. that was from somewhere around the 85th floor plumiting to the ground in 8.5 seconds.. The freefall speed from that height would have been somewhere between 8.5 - 9.5seconds.. Now from that speed wouldnt anyone with common sense would assume there had to have been some sort of vacum for the tower to fall with VERY VERY LITTLE resistance like that??? Go figure huh!!
Serious question that I want you and others to consider.
Is it possible that the building fell at or close to a freefall speed because of the impulses of each floor hitting the next one? Basically, could it have fallen faster at the bottom than the top?
Here's the best thing I could compare it to. The guys who break bricks with their arms. If you watch closely, it actually seems like the bricks break faster the farther you go down.
@NYSP22DAVID Thats a valid question i guess,, my problem is it doesnt pancake (as in floors falling on one another).. The building literally disintegrates from top to bottom, even polvurising concrete floors in mid air.. The demolition wave falls almost faster than the falling debris. The Building fell as if there was no resistance at all or like there was zero core columns. Check out the impact hole at the pentagon before it collapsed.. Many many many questions, very few and poor answers
@NYSP22DAVID THANK YOU! that is the first logical thing ive read ever since I started researching this, i was too young to understand but i want to now and honestly your the first person thats said something thats 1 agreeable and 2 pretty much right.
@gimme2utah1 Can you please read this news article published dec 1999.. Talking about the hijacked elections in 2000. wsws.org/articles/2000/dec2000/elec-d14dot shtml
I don't get it. The poster points out cosmetic differences between photos and a computer animation, and sites that as proof that Nova 'lied?' Sorry pal, no conspiracy, and no dice.
@aligoulou That does not mean that it will not collapse if hit by a fully loaded 767! The Towers were not invincible and the Titanic was not unsinkable!
Stupid. Yeah, very stupid, to believe "they want to make us believe". It was to illustrate the tube-in-tube-construction. Or do you also believe, they want to make us believe, that the floors were made of sheets of 2-inch thick cardboard or is there a plan to do a video concerning this issue?
This video is a desperate attempt to make people believe...
long as dip shits like u r willing to kill innocent people overseas(or too cowardly & stay home waving"support our troops"banners like hypnotized mongoloids- goebels,eat your heart out!)searching for non-existent enemies in caves,WMD's or the biggest BS "Liberate Iraqi's" from "evil dictatorships" they install & shake hands in'80s FOR OIL.
turds can't see the obvious; this"high-end simulation"SHOWS COLUMNS DO NOT COLLAPSE WITH REST OF"PANCAKE EFFECT"
at what point of the "sim" are the 47beams supposed to "collapse"
note: the REAL ones collapsed WITH the building in 10 seconds...
if you don't have the answer, stick you head back in your ass and spare us all the stench of your dumass replies....isn't inbreeding outlawed in you territory yet?
ok, I suppose despite the fact that the press absolutely hated bush and would do anything to hurt him politically, even make up a fake AWOL story which ended Rather's career - and despite all of their money and resources - they found nothing
yet the one lone wingnut, most briliant douche on youtube, has solved the CASE!
lol you "live" the truth! ROFL, that is one of the funniest and more pathetic things I've ever read amongst the twoofers lol
lol - answer some lame question or be called lame names by a looser on the internet - omg - i may lose sleep over this ROFL
what a twat
what the hell is your point that the columns would not have pancaked?
and yet the audio of the video clearly shows no squib sounds - so I suppose the bldg couldn't do what we clearly watched it do - frickin amazing how you twoofers work - out there on the front lines "living" it! lol
would you quit posting just to show what an ignoramus with poo on his head you are.
You've got the reading comprehension of a raped farm animal....sorry was that too personal..bring up bad memories of you-n-unclepappy?
isn't illegal in every state to be that stupid on purpose?
do the WORLD a favor- go over there and start getting killed for your beliefs and the grief numbnuts like who believe it was saddam..no, WMDs...no,guys in caves...with boxcutters..no, for FREEDOM?!!?!?
@wkwickham ha ha ha lol great comeback. Dont let people intimidate you for asking a perfectly good question. When they are loosing they resort to insults and obsene phrases. They call you crazy and try to make themselves out to be an expert.
Any normal person will look at this subject and have many questions, and getting to the truth is always a good thing.
@katlovesall I don't think its about winning and losing
they're just weirdos, and a little off in the head
the twoofer movement had some movement at first and then it diluted itself with so many possible conspiracies , people just lost interest
first it was explosives that brought it down, then there were no planes, then cruise misslies, then it was ghost planes and then it was military planes
@wkwickham well I have to agree with them on some things, like the large plume of debrie that is being thrown off the towers as they come down. I dont think you see that when a building collapes do you? And many vidios of that record large explosions and the victims that made it out of the building speaking of bombs going off. Yea I guess unless we have a real investigation we will never know for sure. But I dont think that will ever happen.
@katlovesall When slabs of concrete weighing about 930 tons slam into each other they are going to break apart and make dust. That is what the plumes were, and most buildings you see collapsing, like in a controlled implosion fall straight down with the bottom floor being destroyed first, and not from the top down. In any building collapse you will see a cloud of cement dust.
@ChrisArcen Sure nobody would argue that concrete floors hitting each other would produce some rubble. But witht he towers there were no large slabs of concrete, and the cement was PULVERIZED not broken, four inches deep and spread all over N.Y. Plus in a gravity collapse the concrete does not jump up into the air and pulverize itself. Plus a natural collapse would have taken much longer than it did. Sorry cant convince me it was a natural collapse.
It's a lousy simulation because it leaves out the stabilizing lateral elements of the core girders, the 6" thick core concrete floors, and the spandrel plates on the perimeter columns that made the external walls into a Vierendeel truss system.
I suppose you can simulate a man with a bunch of balloons, but it's a lousy simulation and this one is too.
TR: No, there's no indication here that NOVA used the word "float". They did say though that the columns were "like freefloating stilts" completely ignoring the structural contribution of the spandrel plates on the perimeter and the floor girders in the core.
'They did say though that the columns were "like freefloating stilts" completely ignoring the structural contribution of the spandrel plates on the perimeter and the floor girders in the core.'
But you're missing the point - specifically, that once the floors were ripped away from the columns by the falling mass, all that "structural contribution" was gone - leaving the columns as free-standing "stilts" that had no hope holding anything up or surviving on their own.
TR, ripping the trussed floors away would not leave the core columns as stilts. It would leave them as columns bound together by floor girders and 6" concrete floors. Even if the trussed floors pancaked like FEMA claimed, the core would have been left standing.
I'm not saying they would be undamaged. I'm saying the core wouldn't fall. At some point, if 600 feet or more of core were left standing, it might topple.
But NOVA's notion that the columns were like cooked spaghetti is extremely dishonest.
hgfbob...Exactly what some people need to read but will probably disregard out of hand because they would rather believe that some foreigners (who really do hate the west) did this on their own.
1 and 2 could not have fallen the way they did (same with 7) unless they were planned...nothing else fits the time frame
how do you get,'EVERY' column to act the same way, at the same time, unless they are under the 'SAME' conditions, and acted on by the 'SAME' force???
as soon as the kink is formed, the 'ENTIRE' building,evenly falls at 9.8m/s^2 for 2.25 seconds,(t=1.75s to t=4.0s [NICSTAR 1A 3.6])
Acceleration of gravity...at 4.0s of the collapse, the 'ENTIRE'building is falling faster than 80 ft.a second...'ONLY' possible by removing 'ALL' resistance...nothing in the way
as soon as the kink is formed, the top 2/3 of the 'ENTIRE" building, AT THE SAME TIME, is falling at a rate, equivalent to the acceleration of gravity. This occurs at t=1.75s and t=4.0s of the collapse...over 1/3 of the collapse time, the building is falling, with 'NOTHING' underneath it. That is the 'ONLY' way to achieve the rate of 9.8m/s^2
Vertical support was 'REMOVED', not weakened
If the columns were weakened, they still 'HAVE' to offer resistance...then there would be 'NO' free fall
as soon as the kink is formed, the HVAC, 'other'PentHouse, roof, facade, within 0.5 seconds from each other, have free fall ACCELERATION for 100+ft. ALL support was INSTANTLY taken away, AS WE SEE by the EVEN decent
if there was a progression from east to west
WE WOULD SEE IT
the roof WILL NOT support itself while columns fail below it. the facade is a non supporting structure, and IS attached to the perimeter columns it will not stand while the columns fail behind it.
It seems if you talk to demolition experts here in America, where they may have something to loose by speaking out against the U.S. government, you get one opinion. But if you talk to demolition experts in other countries they will tell you something different.
One of the the biggest acts of treason that this country has "ever" seen". Insider trading for peoples lives. It's not the first time. It's not the last. Insurance gain from one of the lowest forms of mankind. Money! Appeal to your sense of "Patriotism". It pisses you off. You want someone to blame. They gave you that also. Bin Laden. You have someone to hate, and they reap the benefit's. Welcome to America GODDAMN!
"Neither does any structural engineer. Every one who has published --dozens-- has concluded that plane impacts & uncontrolled fires dropped the WTC. Jrnl of Structural Mechanics, Structure magazine, M.I.T., Purdue, Jrnl of Materials, Fire Engineering Jrnl, and on and on "
No truther will go near this one because they can't think of a response.
Interesting that after six years they still can't find one demo guy to say the Towers were controlled demo.
here's another "cherry-picked" piece of info: Les Robinson, The structural engineer of the world trade center, says the building was designed to withstand the impact from a plane because contrary to Bush's lies, we had conceived of the possibility of such a thing happening and have actually conducted training mission to that effect. According to the engineer the core columns shouldn't have fallen at all let alone at free fall speeds. Go ahead and keep your eyes closed you fuckin redneck.
"The term "pulled" has nothing whatsoever to do with explosives in the demo industry"
ImplosionWorld, the online demo journal, asked a bunch of demo pros if they'd ever heard the term used except as a cable pull. Not one ever had. Long article at Implosionworld (dot) com detailing why WTC could not possibly be controlled demo.
Truthers are afraid to deal with it. Watch them avoid it again.
So many mainstream media outlets totally BLEW THEIR CREDIBILITY reinforcing the 9-11 LIE.. After researching 9-11 and being convinced it was a inside job, I took notice how the mainstream media outlets were suppresing the evidence.. Now any major media outlet has less credibility the THE ONION with me.. I discontued my CABLE realizing I was being fed LIES as my country has been getting looted and raped.. You all should do the same.
What you say is true. Interesting that many started saying what happened on the day and the day after, it all became lies, but yes many on the day were part of the gameplan. No differant in the UK and Ozie and NZ... What to do???
how do you know that are you an expert no so who are you to say its true. Think of the WTC like Jenga blocks take a few pieces out the whole thing falls same thing the plane caused structural damage resulting in knocking out the columns. The South tower's top third came down on one floor at a time 40 floors coming down on one floor at a time you think its gonna slow down absolutely not. Do your fucking research instead of making accusations.
If the pancake theory were true the stack would be 62 stories high, instead a whole appeared. Remember Oklahoma the trees on one side of the road didn't loose a twig, the building was blown to hell, yet the bomb was in a delivery truck in the middle of the street. Kennedy miracle bullet, same shit same people, no need to be a scientist. Common scene will do.
well then it looks like common sense proved you wrong because why would it be 62 stories high if there were 110 floors that claim just made no sense. Secondly the building collapsed so fast that it wouldnt be able to stack the floors they were pullverized by the top floors of towers 1 & 2 coming down on it. Im sick of people from other states or other countires say they think they know what happened but they don't they werent there. The demolition theory is weak and can't be proven
I agree I am sick to death of all these theories. So lets stick to the facts.
Larry Silverstein who on international TV, lease holder of the WTC said pull building 7, to quote "Such terrible loss of life so we pulled the building"
I agree some people run around with a silly conspiracy theory saying the building fell down, but that is just a theory. No the hard facts are Larry is an old man who didn't think anyone would mind if he dropped a building or two or three without a building permit.
thank you someone with some sense here. Yeah i hear ya larry was in his late 60's around 9/11 hes old so why would he take down his own building that is the most ridiculous theory of them all. He only got lease to the wtc because another bidder who was higher than him dropped out. Basically all he received was insurance money but it wasn't for himself it was for him to rebuild the trade center. People 4get to realize how much the twin towers weighed. That is why it fell the way it did.
Yhea it takes 5 -10 weeks to set the explosives to PULL a building that tall, we all know that... as for the bids it was 4 consortiums were bidding and Larry was the lowest. No you are quite correct Larry Silverstein said "PULL IT" and what do you know it was dropped perfectly a very professional job, the old footprint technique high explosives and a crimp drop. I don't know the civil laws in New York, in most places you need a demolition permit to do this, but not good old Larry.
exactly and Larry himself even said "so we decided to pull it." You can't just decide at that precise moment well hey i dont like this building lets risk more lives and plant the explosives which would usually take weeks and yet they managed toi plant them in there in less than 3 hours amazing. Thats why i hate conspiracy theorists i mean don't get me wrong past events like TWA Flight 800 theories make sense but 9/11 they just can't prove these pathetic theories and never will be able to.
The planning to drop a 46 story building takes 12 -16 weeks. Not to mention the gas cutting of core columns to weaken the structure. Reassuring that the local demolition squad is on hand with enough explosives. Larry never said he planned the demolition he said. PULL IT. So what is the name of the demolition company that sorted all this out in 3 hours. Three hours that sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.
Hey thanks for the insight and intelligent comments, so good to know you are having some luck with life. As for the facts where did you get your great knowledge of controlled demolition. Anyway Larry said Pull it and that is what he and his friends did,
Pull it does not mean use ropes nor did the fire brigade call him, they don't call property developers when they want advice. Some people believe anything and others are more discerning about information.
yes very true the explosion of a controlled demolition could be heard from a great distance. All you could hear with trade towers 1&2 and building 7 was the building being pullverized. Yes people read this prison planet bullshit and immediately believe 9/11 was an inside job. Wow some research. That site is ran by that douche bag Alex Jones, an anti everything. Exactly the CD would have occured at the bottom and usually appears as if the building never weighed anything because it falls at once.
"Larry Silverstein who on international TV, lease holder of the WTC said pull building 7"
Ignorant pissant. The term "pulled" has nothing whatsoever to do with explosives in the demo industry, which you'd know if you weren't a lazy fuck, too lazy to use Google.
Fools like you make even regular Truthers look almost normal, not an easy thing to do.
Read an engineering article, asswipe. Have your mommy help you with those big words.
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All you got to do to see that 911 was an inside job is look at the way bush acted he had no surprise, NO SHOCK at all he just sat there. If i was pres and someone came and told me we are under attack i would of been SHOCKED ! He just sat there, watch the vid and the way he acts and you can tell it's an inside job. TO FUCKIN OBVIOUS!!! THE FIRST REACTION SHOULD OF BEEN SOMETHING OTHER THAN SIT THERE LOOKING GUILTY.COMON PEOPLE GO ARREST THE REAL TERRORIST!!!!!
dan32749 4 days ago
Another bullshit cgi fraudulent false flag operation from the mainstream lie.
joecanukk 4 days ago
America, you need the worlds biggest tube of sex lube, cause you all got fucked. Core cut to 30 or so foot segments from top to bottom? Both towers? Pancake my ass. You got done, and you got done hard on 911. And guess what you are still being done.
Jimbofx911 1 week ago
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Truthers are fucking idiots. Retarded monkeys are smarter than Truthers.
12weasel100 2 weeks ago
Why was the rate of collapse so uniform if the damage was primarily on the area of impact? Why was so much concrete crushed into such a fine powder? Why was there molten metal under the rubble, which was "flowing like lava" according to the crews there? All this needs to be explained before i even consider the possibility of the official story being true.
XmadmanREBornX 1 month ago
@XmadmanREBornX Why was the rate of collapse uniform? Consider the sheer amount of weight contained in the portion of the building above the impact, suddenly falling down on the tower below, crushing each floor one at a time like a stack of pancakes, each time adding more weight. Concrete was crushed into a fine powder? Possibly, but source that. Molten metal "flowing like lava"? You need to source that too. The metal never melted, it was softened and bent by the intense fires.
carlsm95 1 month ago
@footjob56 You are not understanding the point of what NOVA said. The statement that they are trying to make is that because the trusses (that were responsible for holding the columns) failed due to the fire, the columns floated freely. The columns twisted and buckled under the weight of the top of the buildings - leading to the collapse of both towers.
Ds89789 2 months ago
Okay so NOVA is in on the conspiracy too? LOL! Fucking truthers never fail to amaze me with their complete stupidity.
NowKillYourself 3 months ago
are you stupid or what, they said the beam were floating UNTIL the put the floor in and attach evrething in plus puttin the CONCRETE, you are theone putting on shuit here
lapmarty 4 months ago
Building these things was a stupid idea in the first place...
y0utUBeH8r 4 months ago
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@bd886 ahh huh?
1600 1,627 to be more accurate.
took five years for Gage to collect all of those.
American Society of Civil Engineers VS the number of people who signed.
325.4 people per year.
0.89 people per day.
I don't have to prove any statistics in numbers, to prove few people even care!
It doesn't take the most Popular or longest running website to even gain more then that. sometimes, it only takes one year. Still under 20,000 members in 5 years isn't doing very well!
ThePinkBunnySHILL 4 months ago
@bd886 But it wasn't just one column, it was almost every column on multiple floors
FriedRiceINC 5 months ago
Nova may have over simplified it in that one small clip of their video, but it's not necessarily an act of deception. The point they were no doubt making is the fact that the buildings did not have a conventional steel skeleton. The Towers used floors as part of the skeleton. What a big mistake! These buildings should never have been built to begin with, and is probably why they aren't being rebuilt.
1971SuperLead 5 months ago
WTC 1 and 2 collapsed in their own footprints. just went straight down. did not tip over to either side. the collapse was so EVEN and flat.
the crucial requirement for that to happen = majority if not all of the 47 core columns have to fail first almost AT THE SAME TIME.
and the FIRE did it? melted those 47 nos. of 36"x16"2" thk steel columns AT THE SAME TIME?
damn, only a large sword by the decepticons can do it!
what's that a STEAK or something? evenly cooked?
SpaceAudio 5 months ago
Before you post something like this, at least watch the original video properly. The 'floating' beams were connected by floor trusses ...
RJM140953 5 months ago
this video is a complete and utter waste of time. whoever posted it blows dog dix!
midatlanticcycle 5 months ago 9
@midatlanticcycle How was it a complete waste, it shows people what the building were like during construction. Everyone can see how it was built and the size of the core columns.
benjyboba 3 months ago
I wish my head was full of seagulls squawking.....
Silverfox0984 5 months ago
So, you claim that NOVA lied by showing simplified graphics of the basic structure of the towers which were not to scale. Sure they did, but it wasn't a lie. It was simplified graphics to explain the structure. They never said it was exact. What was exact was Leslie Robertson showing how the trusses were attached to the bands around the building.
You are making much out of nothing and then making nonsensical accusations. Shame on you!!
NonnyMus1 5 months ago 3
In theory, Only one floor's steel beams need to break for the floors above to collapse in in it. So one floor would fall on another and those 2 floors will fall on another and so on. Even if the steel beams didn't break, they could have been weakened enough by the fire to not support the floors above it.
FriedRiceINC 6 months ago 2
@FriedRiceINC each floor was made by 4 sections attached to the core structure, they couldn't collapse all together from the same weak point because there wasn't, also fires with high temperature enough to weak any structural steel were restricted to few small areas if there was any, the overall building was clearly intact and undamaged therefore impossible to collapse.
cipihevent 4 months ago
@cipihevent The fires were spread all over several floors not one, so if one whole floor was on fire and each of the colums were weakened or knocked out by the plane, one floor would fall into another and the uilding would colapse(sorry for bad spelling)
FriedRiceINC 4 months ago
The WTC were built in skeletal steel which means that there 2 types of columns. the Core and the exterior column there were no interior columns. When the planes it destroyed dozens of exterior columns from the front and also the back. this means that there are only few columns supporting the building but that is not enough for the building to collapse. Dont forget that there is fire burning with jet fuel that burn so hot that it WEAKENS the steel but never melted it.
ian12abatol 6 months ago
look.. i am a student of engineering here but i agree with nova because they are showing you the columns if they are not supported with beams... if you try to build a building without beams then it would loo like jelly. They are showing you that because the fire in the world trade center is so hot that it WEAKENS the beams. GRAVITY did all the rest. Its not only 1 floor that is in fire but there are more than 4 floors burning with jet fuel. Plus the CORE columns are not covered with concrete.
ian12abatol 6 months ago 2
to all you conspiracy theorist clowns commenting on this video...do some structural engineering studying before you post your ridiculous bullshit messages on here. the simple fact of the matter is that both towers were skeletal steel structures with 3 critical components being the floor trusses, the center support columns, and the sidewalls. when one or more were critically damaged, the buildings were doomed to failure regardless of fires or heat related damages.
midatlanticcycle 7 months ago 2
@midatlanticcycle The buildings were designed to withstand the impact of a 707 taking out many structural components. It was the fire which weakened the trusses which made the floors sag. Then,
"NIST found that sagging floors pulled inward on the perimeter columns: 'This led to the inward bowing of the perimeter columns and failure of the south face of WTC 1 and the east face of WTC 2, initiating the collapse of each of the towers.' " (Wikipedia, "Collapse of the World Trade Center")
NonnyMus1 5 months ago
one word: NANOTHERMITE
1nephi13v37 7 months ago
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@1nephi13v37 one word: IMPOSSIBLE
NonnyMus1 5 months ago
watch?v=nJ6_WBwgNuM
this one is better
bernuga 7 months ago
Mr. Levy told NOVA that the towers came down because the jet fuel melted the structural steel. That's loony tunes. Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel.
See my video:
The 9/11 "Deep Mystery" and the Crazy Engineers
punxsutawneybarney 8 months ago
@punxsutawneybarney It weakened the steel, not melted. Anyone with basic knowledge of physics can understand that, and with all the other fuel (Office material, plastic, carpeting, etc.) It was possible. Tell me, if they used explosives to bring the towers down, why was the point of failure at the holes where the planes hit? You realize that the floors that were damaged had the fire proofing removed so that they could replace it. If a fire wasn't an issue, why fire proof the steel, hmm?
Waroftheworlds112 8 months ago
@Waroftheworlds112 If you watch the videos of the north tower you can see that the initial failure was on floors above the impact zone. The top "block" telescoped for several stories before the floors under the impact zone began to fail.
punxsutawneybarney 8 months ago
I agree the floor truss system was weak link and would easily be the first thing to fail, but they only provided horizontal support and the outer and center structure was for the vertical strength, was the plane and fire enough to make the centre structure fail to then pull the outer structure inward. This is the only way the building could fail? The tower did not twist, the top disintegrated and fell straight down.
katana2012666 8 months ago
Do you really think Nova was "in on it?" Do you realize how many people would have to have been involved if this was a "government conspiracy?" How did they place tons of explosives or thermite into these building without anyone noticing? They would have to tear out drywall to access the support columns to place these explosives. Out of the thousands of people who worked there, don't you think someone would have noticed? If you know the answer, please respond.
TimothyRaymond1 8 months ago
Put simply, Nova tried to make the public believe that the WTC towers had NO horizontal structural members, in either the core or the outer bearing wall.
Actually, we should thank Nova. By "illustrating" how it allegedly happened using CGI, they made it more obvious that the "pancake theory" was a flagrant lie.
Thanks Nova, for shooting yourself in the foot.
thechinadesk 9 months ago
When the Nova images are shown right next to the actual construction photos, Nova's Big Lie becomes so glaringly obvious, one has to laugh.
The MSM spin controllers really did a number on the public.
Fortunately, as time went by and people had a chance to take a closer look, they began to realize they had been deceived.
thechinadesk 9 months ago
lol, I love how people who don't understand science, always wants to say it's a crock. Yet their fantasy world is reality. Sad.
jthornton17 9 months ago
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gimme2utah1 9 months ago
NOVA's a crock.
visvaldisX 9 months ago
if this all happened in australia the way it did our prime minister would be swinging from a tree
TheJUNGLESURFER 9 months ago
Thank you for this 5 minutes of pure comedy. Unfortunately, the only correct point of the video is...well you got the name of the song right so I'm tempted to give you a thumbs for that only.
hornetgags 9 months ago
who ever is not stupid knows that these tours were giants,standing since the 60's,built to resist any blow up to 13 thousand tons...!!!!a fully loaded plane would punch only 3000 tons..!!!!!!..even with the speeds announced..the speeds were false anyway...say pro airliner pilots,not possible at sea level.....they lied on everything...why...?????????
MrPhattdirty 9 months ago
@MrPhattdirty people who are not stupid know how to spell "towers". They also know that "who ever" is one word
oxoflavourcrisp 8 months ago
What you don't seem to understand: Osama attended MIT in Cambridge, MA, where he studied STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING! He knew exactly how to take the towers down!
Nova has nothing to gain by putting out a less-than-honest explanation of what happened on 9/11. I believe they've got it right.
I also lost family and friends under the rubble of the WTC, so take your dumb, misguided theories and shove them!
DeedsResearcher 9 months ago
This video is complete nonsense. The NOVA stuff IS correct. The basic concepts of the columns IS CORRECT. You "TM" nuts go and learn a few things about building construction before you start producing idiot videos like this.
The floors don't hold vertical loads. They provide stability and strength to the columns. They transmit the loads but they don't hold them. They are held by a bracket and a 3/4 inch bolt. What do you think results when 1/3 of the building lands on that?
roquefortfiles 10 months ago
Inside Job
Born2Flesh 10 months ago
Oh yeah.. Nova. Popular mechanics all on Cheney's payroll. You truthers make me want to puke.
roquefortfiles 1 year ago
lol implosionworld????nimrod
miserkocho 1 year ago
No alu plan can first go direct in building at first and then columms..its like trying cut steeal over whit butter..stupid..is was media fakery..rocket go in and the termite and lots of bombs..and even that have a problem if not wee seeing collums at buttom cut over and witnnes soo smoke and explosions.
MultiAirbrusher 1 year ago
You can't fool me NOVA with your science and reason. I'm too smart to examine the evidence and figure out what the most likely senerio was for the towers collapse. I think it was done with Holograms and gravity rays!
Remembermylai 1 year ago
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I see another 28 story building in China has been burning for hours on nearly every floor, 42 dead many people burned. Yet suprise suprise it's still standing there. Now china isn't exactly known for it's health and safety and sprinkler systems yet there is no sign of collapse and thats because steel framed skyscrapers dont collapse due to fire, but the science is oviously different in New York lol
giptonsilly 1 year ago
Lol fucking lol. Im convinced a child has analysed this. So what you are saying is that the trusses dont hold the perimeter columns to the core columns. Fuck sake not a clue about structures.
markc2511 1 year ago 13
@markc2511" .....Then they show trussers that hold tight together the whole structure. (this is the only right thing that nova shows)." The wrong things are:" ....thin floating beams..." and the picture from above in which I wrote: "this is a typical of the deceptive illustrations misrepresenting the structural core of the building and wrong proportion of the core itself."
footjob56 1 year ago
@footjob56
Pretty good expose of Nova lies. You have done a great service to the truth by posting it.
Be advised however that "thin floating beams" is incorrect. If we're talking about vertical members, then it's "thin floating columns."
Beams are horizontal. Columns are vertical.
thechinadesk 8 months ago
@footjob56
The official conspiracy theory flagrantly misrepresents the nature of the WTC 1 and 2 cores.
The WTC cores were basically "buildings within buildings." They were conventional post and beam structures with immensely strong steel columns and beams running both vertically and horizontally, welded into a dense 3D "jungle gym" matrix.
Even if we believe the floors "pancaked," which they didn't, these cores would have been left standing. The "pancaking" theory is absurd.
thechinadesk 8 months ago
@footjob56 r u some type of grassy knoll shooter as well, you idiot?
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SkuIICrusherGhost 4 months ago
the core was the main support of the structure. It was not weak or floating. It should of remained standing if a "pan cake" collapse had occurred. Nova and Pm were used to explain the lie by cooking data. If I knew nothing about the building structure, it would of fooled me also.
MrEmerye 3 months ago
@MrEmerye In both towers the cores remained standing much longer after the floors and exterior columns had collapsed. However, they could not have been expected to survive due to the extreme damage sustained by the upper blocks falling on them and the damage from the collapse of the surrounding floors and exterior columns. For bother tows you can see core columns leaning over and snapping off as the structure falls apart. Controlled is the last thing I'd call it.
InvernessMoon 3 months ago
@600will They didn't pancake - this has since been disproved by the government officials. It did take longer than 10 seconds to fall. No thermite (or thermate) was found in the tower - this is a rumour. The aluminium turned molten orange and dripped. The steel structures were cut in a diagonal by the clean up team - there are photos and footage of this. There were still four stories of the core still standing.
Sorry.
Clarrisani 1 year ago
@Clarrisani How can you say there was no thermite found when it had never been tested for foreign accelerants??? HMMM?? 90% of the rubble was shipped off for destruction and recycling before any investigation could even BEGIN!!! So ignorant of the facts.. And when thermate was found in dust samples (as in hundreds of samples tested by those willing to do so) - everyone denies it like it doesnt matter... Molten meta was found 8weeks after and you think thats from the planes??? GO FUCKEN FIGURE!!
ryconster 1 year ago
@ryconster "How can you say there was no thermite found when it had never been tested for foreign accelerants". Which means it hasn't been found either. Works both ways. And yes, the area was cleared with some parts sent off to be investigated. Also, the molten metal has been explained on various sites and is not consistent with thermite/thermate. As for the dust samples - again, inconsistancies. Please see Debunking911 site for details.
Clarrisani 1 year ago
@Clarrisani Even NIST acknowledged the steel was NOT tested for foreign accelerants... It was only those who had the courage to specifically search for foreign accelerants which prior to 911 - even NIST explained in their book 'Fire Investigation Handbook' countless times to test for EVERYTHING especially when there is a global collapse in a building. The US govt could never have a fully funded independant report.. That is the conspiracy,, not crazy at all, people are just naive.. full stop..
ryconster 1 year ago
@Clarrisani since a real investigation has never been performed and the 9/11 commission wasnt put together til well after a year of 9/11 almost all traces of thermite have been cleaned up. what you cite is pure bull.
9/11 - inside job!
vengencefrom1979 1 year ago
@vengencefrom1979 That is, of course, if thermite was there in the first place, which it wasn't. There has been "real" investigations, as you call it. If you've actually looked into what went on at Fresh Kills you'll see that every piece of debris was checked at the site. They had teams working round the clock.
It is most clear to anyone who has done their research PROPERLY that 9/11 was an OUTSIDE job.
Clarrisani 1 year ago
"What they want us to believe."
aka What is actually true and proven in comparison to baseless conspiracy theories made up by those unable to accept their country is prone to outside attack.
Clarrisani 1 year ago
@Clarrisani In this particular NOVA show, the WTC towers 3D CAD mock ups show a structure that is NOTHING AT ALL similar to the actual towers. The truss designs are dissimilar and the core structure are very dissimilar! The cores were tied into one another with 16" wide steel cross beams! They also grow in density in relationship to the height. i.e. thinner and lighter at the top to thicker and heavier at the base. The center of gravity is very close to ground level. Controlled demo!
DemonDik 1 year ago
How much did one of those floor assemblies weigh? There were 84 of them in each tower.
So how is it that after almost NINE YEARS we never see the total weight of a floor assembly? How have the people who claim to know physics not demanded that information by now? We are supposed to do physics without data?
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psikeyhackr 1 year ago
I'm a little confused....so is this saying that horizontal spandrels laterally supported the columns?....Then how would they say that the columns were free standing if they were supported laterally every floor level?....that seems ludicrous to me....I'm no expert, but I'm just going by what I have leaned.
tswagg504 1 year ago
Where is all the concrete?
Why did they demolished the surrounding buildings?
tomislavlac 1 year ago
@tomislavlac The concrete was used on the floors only. The core was not reinforced with concrete such as the older standard skyscrapers. They used fire resistant drywall as well as F.R. sprayed-on foam to reduce weight. The problem with those 2 methods is they are not strong. Much of the fire proofing had either been blown away or broken off from the planes impact.. Once the floor joists broke loose from the angle brackets, there was nothing to keep the outer columns from falling outward/away.
gimme2utah1 1 year ago
@gimme2utah1 really??? so the plane caused the fireproofing to blow off 110 stories?? wow amazing.. So 15top stories piledrived 85 stories in 10seconds?? 15stories crushed 85 stories comming down through the greatest path of resistance?? aahaha your logic is futile.. absolutley futile and USELESS.. You DUMMY, the entire global collapse was INSANE, concrete being pulverised DUST in midair.. FUCKEN WAKE UP DUMBASS
ryconster 1 year ago
@ryconster I didn't say the plane blew off F.P. on every floor. Just at the planes impact area. Once the floor trusses(impact area) sagged from the heat, they broke loose from the angle brackets on either the outer beams, inner core beams or both. The 45,000t(wtc1) or 100,000t(wtc2) weight crashing down from the upper floors was too much for the 1300t capacity of EACH floor below. Once the flooring broke loose, lateral stability of the inner + outer columns was compromised.
watch?v=oXxynEDpwrA
gimme2utah1 1 year ago
@gimme2utah1 Doesnt explain nothing dude, if a pancake could explain it, you wouldnt see a global collapse in less than 11 seconds dude, and simulations proved that the core columns would have still been standing.. Instead you see a complete global collapse in 10seconds and you can literally see steel core columns and outer exterior columns being ejected outwards at high speeds. The building literaly disintergrates.. Doesnt collapse other wise you would see floors stackd upon each other
ryconster 1 year ago
@ryconster Watch this clip of the north tower. Much of the core still remained. Some columns as tall as 700ft. You'll see spires of columns break off and fall.
watch#!v=f928i-n9kP4 The collapse of both towers may have seemed as if controlled but in fact they were a mess. Severely damaging or destroying buildings as far away as 400ft. in every direction. These were MASSIVE structures. The outer sections that fell really didn't seem to be exploding,(IMO) just being pushed away, falling outward.
gimme2utah1 1 year ago
@gimme2utah1 and dude i seen that clip but you will see its not the core at all..its the exterior columns but not the core, the core has been completley rip out and the floors have obviously come down in a vacum.. VERY FAST
ryconster 1 year ago
@ryconster With all due respect, Those are NOT the exterior columns still standing in that video. With no flooring left to connect/support to the outer columns, they would just topple over. Between 13 sec.+19 seconds that IS the core you're looking at. Also, I disagree the towers came down at free fall speed. If that were true, then the many pieces falling from the top would not outrace the rest of the building to the bottom.
gimme2utah1 1 year ago
@ryconster I also looked into the possiblity of demoltions being used. I was shocked to find out how many manhours and charges would be needed for just a 9 story building. Over 4000 charges, 100lbs thermite per beam, 3000+ manhours and that's for a GUTTED building. Not a building where wallboard, furniture etc. would hafta be removed and replaced + while people were still occupying it. Take those nmbrs and X by 25 and you'll have the 2 towers + wtc7. It just seems very unlikely CD was used IMO.
gimme2utah1 1 year ago
@ryconster Not to mention that no evidence was found by ANYONE of shock tubes, blasting caps remnants, det cord, copper backing from explosive charges...nothing, but a weak rumor of "nano nano super thermite" made by one of the lead players of the the truth movement. Which could have been anything from the many chemicals found in everyday items that were pulverized in the collapse.
gimme2utah1 1 year ago
@gimme2utah1 okay, whatever you say.. I guess though, with the fires burning underground for more than 2months not much would be found, not even whole body parts were found just 150bone fragments.. Nothing was found intact.. Everyting was pulverised to dust.. BUt i guess your'e entitled to your opinon.. Doesnt mean its the truth though.. Nano wasnt a rumor though.. It was literally found in abundance in the dust.. Estimated tons and tons of it
ryconster 1 year ago
@ryconster Thermite itself dates back to 1893.
It is a mixture of aluminum and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat.
The reaction produces iron, heated to 2500 °C.
This can be used to do welding.
watch?v=ySHgiUxnLC0
gimme2utah1 1 year ago
@gimme2utah1 yeah woteva.. have fun trying to prove a lie.. 11seconds in my opinion is pretty close to freefall speed..8.5seconds is freefall.. Very simple formula to work out freefall speed.. At the end of the day 11seconds - 8.5 seconds leaves 2.5 seconds of resistance.. go figure.. Pancake?? dont think so
ryconster 1 year ago
@ryconster
What the hell is -8.5 seconds? Your telling me that if I drop an object from a height of 100 feet and an object from the height of 500 feet, they will hit the ground in 8.5 seconds? The number your looking for is -9.81m/s(squared). That's the acceleration due to gravity on earth. All objects fall at this speed, unless there is some sort of resistance. Before you start talking physics, make sure you know what the heck your talking about. ryconster knows physics, I don't think so.
NYSP22DAVID 1 year ago
@NYSP22DAVID no silly billy, 8.5 seconds is the time at which the south tower fell at.. that was from somewhere around the 85th floor plumiting to the ground in 8.5 seconds.. The freefall speed from that height would have been somewhere between 8.5 - 9.5seconds.. Now from that speed wouldnt anyone with common sense would assume there had to have been some sort of vacum for the tower to fall with VERY VERY LITTLE resistance like that??? Go figure huh!!
ryconster 1 year ago
@ryconster
Oh my bad. The way you worded your statement made it sound like everything dropped from at freefall speed fell in 8.5 seconds.
NYSP22DAVID 1 year ago
@ryconster
Serious question that I want you and others to consider.
Is it possible that the building fell at or close to a freefall speed because of the impulses of each floor hitting the next one? Basically, could it have fallen faster at the bottom than the top?
Here's the best thing I could compare it to. The guys who break bricks with their arms. If you watch closely, it actually seems like the bricks break faster the farther you go down.
/watch?v=JwGDO2wknLE&feature=related
NYSP22DAVID 1 year ago
@NYSP22DAVID Thats a valid question i guess,, my problem is it doesnt pancake (as in floors falling on one another).. The building literally disintegrates from top to bottom, even polvurising concrete floors in mid air.. The demolition wave falls almost faster than the falling debris. The Building fell as if there was no resistance at all or like there was zero core columns. Check out the impact hole at the pentagon before it collapsed.. Many many many questions, very few and poor answers
ryconster 1 year ago
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countrycowgirlable 1 year ago
@NYSP22DAVID THANK YOU! that is the first logical thing ive read ever since I started researching this, i was too young to understand but i want to now and honestly your the first person thats said something thats 1 agreeable and 2 pretty much right.
countrycowgirlable 1 year ago
@ryconster
Again, I it's just a thought that popped up in my head. I have no idea if its logical to even think that. Please tell me what you think?
NYSP22DAVID 1 year ago
@gimme2utah1 Can you please read this news article published dec 1999.. Talking about the hijacked elections in 2000. wsws.org/articles/2000/dec2000/elec-d14dot shtml
ryconster 1 year ago
you're such a dick for believing all this conspiracy bullshit
eat4peace 1 year ago
Hate to say it, but NOVA probably spent money convincing the un-convincable. (not a word I know)
Only way I can keep my hands to myself these days is to pretend people don't have ridiculous ideas.
MultiUniv3rsal 1 year ago
my balls on anybody's nose ,would probably make a nice pair of ray-bans.......
aligoulou 1 year ago
I don't get it. The poster points out cosmetic differences between photos and a computer animation, and sites that as proof that Nova 'lied?' Sorry pal, no conspiracy, and no dice.
DevSodDribble 1 year ago
the tallest tower in the world,recently built(DUBAI)was made the same way (still)......!!???got my point..??
aligoulou 2 years ago
@aligoulou That does not mean that it will not collapse if hit by a fully loaded 767! The Towers were not invincible and the Titanic was not unsinkable!
ChrisArcen 1 year ago
@aligoulou And if was hit by a fully loaded 767 it would probably collapse too. To build buildings that tall they have to use this type of design.
ChrisArcen 1 year ago
Stupid. Yeah, very stupid, to believe "they want to make us believe". It was to illustrate the tube-in-tube-construction. Or do you also believe, they want to make us believe, that the floors were made of sheets of 2-inch thick cardboard or is there a plan to do a video concerning this issue?
This video is a desperate attempt to make people believe...
palasta 2 years ago
Thanks for posting.
A new 911 investigation is soon underway.
The world will get the truth.
questionsleadtotruth 2 years ago
? get the truth? in eight years , and every twoofer arguement debunked, we still have to entertain "truth" someday?
wkwickham 2 years ago
"w"
long as dip shits like u r willing to kill innocent people overseas(or too cowardly & stay home waving"support our troops"banners like hypnotized mongoloids- goebels,eat your heart out!)searching for non-existent enemies in caves,WMD's or the biggest BS "Liberate Iraqi's" from "evil dictatorships" they install & shake hands in'80s FOR OIL.
turds can't see the obvious; this"high-end simulation"SHOWS COLUMNS DO NOT COLLAPSE WITH REST OF"PANCAKE EFFECT"
truth has NOT been"entertained"at all...
only1too 2 years ago
wow, lets see, anytrhing in my comment about wars over seas? no, anything about supporting troops? no, liberating?iraq?caves?wmds?oil?
hmmm and you wonder why normal people think you twoofers are a little nutty? lol - dip shits?
you wonder why after all these years this "conspiracy" has never left the kook fringe?
you should stop looking over your shoulder, and take the meds your doc prescribed years ago
nut case
wkwickham 2 years ago
yes, dipshits. & that's putting it mildly...
just to show u 1 last time just how much of a dipp-n-dog-shit-head you are:
what resulted from the "arabs with boxcutters theory"? or did u shove ur head back in ur ass in fear since?
No wonder most of the world doesn't just THINK most uh-uh-mericans are stupid- they KNOW it & u r living proof.
Q: at what point of the "sim" are the 47beams supposed to "collapse" with ur pancakes? ref:live footage.
truth is not for "entertainment" ya televidiot zombie
only1too 2 years ago
@only1too I love how you pull things out of thin air, insult people and then argue with yourself
take your meds
wkwickham 2 years ago
typical shit for brains...
I asked you a question assface:
at what point of the "sim" are the 47beams supposed to "collapse"
note: the REAL ones collapsed WITH the building in 10 seconds...
if you don't have the answer, stick you head back in your ass and spare us all the stench of your dumass replies....isn't inbreeding outlawed in you territory yet?
only1too 2 years ago
shit for brains - i havent once mentioned anything about a "sim"
who cares
wkwickham 2 years ago
too bum picking finger sniffing cowardly & stupid to even answer a simple question on the video you're posting comments on.
Go over & sweep for mines with a broom for what you believe neutered dogmeat.
Elsewise just stick to keeping your hands busy with cheezzies & porn agent orangedik.
Because UNlike knobs that need to be "entertained" by 911 truth, some of us live it.
only1too 2 years ago
ROFL
ok, I suppose despite the fact that the press absolutely hated bush and would do anything to hurt him politically, even make up a fake AWOL story which ended Rather's career - and despite all of their money and resources - they found nothing
yet the one lone wingnut, most briliant douche on youtube, has solved the CASE!
lol you "live" the truth! ROFL, that is one of the funniest and more pathetic things I've ever read amongst the twoofers lol
do you wear a tinfoil hat?
wkwickham 2 years ago
you really do have dogshit for brains and no spine
I said answer the question or shove your head back up your ass and go fight for what you believe
otherwise get back to"entertaining"what your best at,agent orangedik- being a worthless piece of maggot shit...
only1too 2 years ago
lol - answer some lame question or be called lame names by a looser on the internet - omg - i may lose sleep over this ROFL
what a twat
what the hell is your point that the columns would not have pancaked?
and yet the audio of the video clearly shows no squib sounds - so I suppose the bldg couldn't do what we clearly watched it do - frickin amazing how you twoofers work - out there on the front lines "living" it! lol
when was the last time you got laid?
wkwickham 2 years ago
would you quit posting just to show what an ignoramus with poo on his head you are.
You've got the reading comprehension of a raped farm animal....sorry was that too personal..bring up bad memories of you-n-unclepappy?
isn't illegal in every state to be that stupid on purpose?
do the WORLD a favor- go over there and start getting killed for your beliefs and the grief numbnuts like who believe it was saddam..no, WMDs...no,guys in caves...with boxcutters..no, for FREEDOM?!!?!?
fuck'n 'tard..
only1too 2 years ago
again, you bring up points nobody else brings up and argue with yourself - good job
any proof? nah didnt think so
wkwickham 2 years ago
@wkwickham ha ha ha lol great comeback. Dont let people intimidate you for asking a perfectly good question. When they are loosing they resort to insults and obsene phrases. They call you crazy and try to make themselves out to be an expert.
Any normal person will look at this subject and have many questions, and getting to the truth is always a good thing.
katlovesall 1 year ago
@katlovesall I don't think its about winning and losing
they're just weirdos, and a little off in the head
the twoofer movement had some movement at first and then it diluted itself with so many possible conspiracies , people just lost interest
first it was explosives that brought it down, then there were no planes, then cruise misslies, then it was ghost planes and then it was military planes
it goes on and on
oh, and don't forget the thermite lol
wkwickham 1 year ago
@wkwickham well I have to agree with them on some things, like the large plume of debrie that is being thrown off the towers as they come down. I dont think you see that when a building collapes do you? And many vidios of that record large explosions and the victims that made it out of the building speaking of bombs going off. Yea I guess unless we have a real investigation we will never know for sure. But I dont think that will ever happen.
katlovesall 1 year ago
@katlovesall When slabs of concrete weighing about 930 tons slam into each other they are going to break apart and make dust. That is what the plumes were, and most buildings you see collapsing, like in a controlled implosion fall straight down with the bottom floor being destroyed first, and not from the top down. In any building collapse you will see a cloud of cement dust.
ChrisArcen 1 year ago
@ChrisArcen Sure nobody would argue that concrete floors hitting each other would produce some rubble. But witht he towers there were no large slabs of concrete, and the cement was PULVERIZED not broken, four inches deep and spread all over N.Y. Plus in a gravity collapse the concrete does not jump up into the air and pulverize itself. Plus a natural collapse would have taken much longer than it did. Sorry cant convince me it was a natural collapse.
katlovesall 1 year ago
this simply does not hold water.sorry dude.
cassidy99ful 2 years ago
simulation. do you know what that mean?
seems not.
docsharp00 2 years ago
It's a lousy simulation because it leaves out the stabilizing lateral elements of the core girders, the 6" thick core concrete floors, and the spandrel plates on the perimeter columns that made the external walls into a Vierendeel truss system.
I suppose you can simulate a man with a bunch of balloons, but it's a lousy simulation and this one is too.
punxsutawneybarney 2 years ago
This video constantly challenges the notion of "floating" columns. But did the documentary ever use the word "float"?
TimReed22222 2 years ago
TR: No, there's no indication here that NOVA used the word "float". They did say though that the columns were "like freefloating stilts" completely ignoring the structural contribution of the spandrel plates on the perimeter and the floor girders in the core.
punxsutawneybarney 2 years ago
'They did say though that the columns were "like freefloating stilts" completely ignoring the structural contribution of the spandrel plates on the perimeter and the floor girders in the core.'
But you're missing the point - specifically, that once the floors were ripped away from the columns by the falling mass, all that "structural contribution" was gone - leaving the columns as free-standing "stilts" that had no hope holding anything up or surviving on their own.
TimReed22222 2 years ago
TR, ripping the trussed floors away would not leave the core columns as stilts. It would leave them as columns bound together by floor girders and 6" concrete floors. Even if the trussed floors pancaked like FEMA claimed, the core would have been left standing.
punxsutawneybarney 2 years ago
"ripping the trussed floors away ... would leave them as columns bound together by floor girders and 6" concrete floors."
Are you saying that the core would be UNDAMAGED by all that destruction?
TimReed22222 2 years ago
I'm not saying they would be undamaged. I'm saying the core wouldn't fall. At some point, if 600 feet or more of core were left standing, it might topple.
But NOVA's notion that the columns were like cooked spaghetti is extremely dishonest.
punxsutawneybarney 2 years ago
dumb ass they look the same
bsctkszos 2 years ago
hgfbob...Exactly what some people need to read but will probably disregard out of hand because they would rather believe that some foreigners (who really do hate the west) did this on their own.
1 and 2 could not have fallen the way they did (same with 7) unless they were planned...nothing else fits the time frame
elijah5674 2 years ago
how do you get,'EVERY' column to act the same way, at the same time, unless they are under the 'SAME' conditions, and acted on by the 'SAME' force???
as soon as the kink is formed, the 'ENTIRE' building,evenly falls at 9.8m/s^2 for 2.25 seconds,(t=1.75s to t=4.0s [NICSTAR 1A 3.6])
Acceleration of gravity...at 4.0s of the collapse, the 'ENTIRE'building is falling faster than 80 ft.a second...'ONLY' possible by removing 'ALL' resistance...nothing in the way
hgfbob 2 years ago
as soon as the kink is formed, the top 2/3 of the 'ENTIRE" building, AT THE SAME TIME, is falling at a rate, equivalent to the acceleration of gravity. This occurs at t=1.75s and t=4.0s of the collapse...over 1/3 of the collapse time, the building is falling, with 'NOTHING' underneath it. That is the 'ONLY' way to achieve the rate of 9.8m/s^2
Vertical support was 'REMOVED', not weakened
If the columns were weakened, they still 'HAVE' to offer resistance...then there would be 'NO' free fall
hgfbob 2 years ago
as soon as the kink is formed, the HVAC, 'other'PentHouse, roof, facade, within 0.5 seconds from each other, have free fall ACCELERATION for 100+ft. ALL support was INSTANTLY taken away, AS WE SEE by the EVEN decent
if there was a progression from east to west
WE WOULD SEE IT
the roof WILL NOT support itself while columns fail below it. the facade is a non supporting structure, and IS attached to the perimeter columns it will not stand while the columns fail behind it.
hgfbob 2 years ago
I really want a criminal investigation. I'm starting to think that citizen's arrest is the only way to go.
bobbygnosis 2 years ago
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afterthefox 3 years ago
It seems if you talk to demolition experts here in America, where they may have something to loose by speaking out against the U.S. government, you get one opinion. But if you talk to demolition experts in other countries they will tell you something different.
bassbaby82 3 years ago
"But if you talk to demolition experts in other countries they will tell you something different"
Bullshit. Just one, Joweknko, and he also claims WTC 1 & 2 could NOT be controlled demo, no way.
You can't have it both ways, kid.
pilot101st 3 years ago
One of the the biggest acts of treason that this country has "ever" seen". Insider trading for peoples lives. It's not the first time. It's not the last. Insurance gain from one of the lowest forms of mankind. Money! Appeal to your sense of "Patriotism". It pisses you off. You want someone to blame. They gave you that also. Bin Laden. You have someone to hate, and they reap the benefit's. Welcome to America GODDAMN!
THECHOSEN1IMGOD 3 years ago
this is bullsh*t everthing is a lie.
fireboy70000 3 years ago
just saw this in school
Foxagons 3 years ago
"Neither does any structural engineer. Every one who has published --dozens-- has concluded that plane impacts & uncontrolled fires dropped the WTC. Jrnl of Structural Mechanics, Structure magazine, M.I.T., Purdue, Jrnl of Materials, Fire Engineering Jrnl, and on and on "
No truther will go near this one because they can't think of a response.
Interesting that after six years they still can't find one demo guy to say the Towers were controlled demo.
Not one.
LancedeBoil 3 years ago
Interesting that after 6 years they can't find some guy hiding in a cave.
bassbaby82 3 years ago
Danny Jawenko, a Dutch demolition expert, claims that building 7 would have had to have been a controlled demolition.
bassbaby82 3 years ago
"Danny Jawenko, a Dutch demolition expert, claims that building 7 would have had to have been a controlled demolition"
Did you miss the part where he said 1 & 2 were definitely, positively NOT controlled demo?
Or you just cherry-picking a few sentences that support your lame-ass, psychotic delusions?
pilot101st 3 years ago
here's another "cherry-picked" piece of info: Les Robinson, The structural engineer of the world trade center, says the building was designed to withstand the impact from a plane because contrary to Bush's lies, we had conceived of the possibility of such a thing happening and have actually conducted training mission to that effect. According to the engineer the core columns shouldn't have fallen at all let alone at free fall speeds. Go ahead and keep your eyes closed you fuckin redneck.
bassbaby82 3 years ago
also if it is true than why the fuck was tower 7 a controlled demolition?
bassbaby82 3 years ago
I understand pilot. You're in the air force or something. You probably think Bush is a goddam genius don't you?
bassbaby82 3 years ago
"The term "pulled" has nothing whatsoever to do with explosives in the demo industry"
ImplosionWorld, the online demo journal, asked a bunch of demo pros if they'd ever heard the term used except as a cable pull. Not one ever had. Long article at Implosionworld (dot) com detailing why WTC could not possibly be controlled demo.
Truthers are afraid to deal with it. Watch them avoid it again.
ChopperSix 3 years ago 3
So many mainstream media outlets totally BLEW THEIR CREDIBILITY reinforcing the 9-11 LIE.. After researching 9-11 and being convinced it was a inside job, I took notice how the mainstream media outlets were suppresing the evidence.. Now any major media outlet has less credibility the THE ONION with me.. I discontued my CABLE realizing I was being fed LIES as my country has been getting looted and raped.. You all should do the same.
mcplanetearth 3 years ago
What you say is true. Interesting that many started saying what happened on the day and the day after, it all became lies, but yes many on the day were part of the gameplan. No differant in the UK and Ozie and NZ... What to do???
vespacurry 3 years ago
Its true.
Steel gurders dont collapse like toothpicks into dust.
The towers would have remained standing
if not for dramatic demolition.
Common sense or thought.
benslooking4junk 3 years ago
how do you know that are you an expert no so who are you to say its true. Think of the WTC like Jenga blocks take a few pieces out the whole thing falls same thing the plane caused structural damage resulting in knocking out the columns. The South tower's top third came down on one floor at a time 40 floors coming down on one floor at a time you think its gonna slow down absolutely not. Do your fucking research instead of making accusations.
godzilla1234567890 3 years ago
If the pancake theory were true the stack would be 62 stories high, instead a whole appeared. Remember Oklahoma the trees on one side of the road didn't loose a twig, the building was blown to hell, yet the bomb was in a delivery truck in the middle of the street. Kennedy miracle bullet, same shit same people, no need to be a scientist. Common scene will do.
vespacurry 3 years ago
well then it looks like common sense proved you wrong because why would it be 62 stories high if there were 110 floors that claim just made no sense. Secondly the building collapsed so fast that it wouldnt be able to stack the floors they were pullverized by the top floors of towers 1 & 2 coming down on it. Im sick of people from other states or other countires say they think they know what happened but they don't they werent there. The demolition theory is weak and can't be proven
godzilla1234567890 3 years ago
I agree I am sick to death of all these theories. So lets stick to the facts.
Larry Silverstein who on international TV, lease holder of the WTC said pull building 7, to quote "Such terrible loss of life so we pulled the building"
I agree some people run around with a silly conspiracy theory saying the building fell down, but that is just a theory. No the hard facts are Larry is an old man who didn't think anyone would mind if he dropped a building or two or three without a building permit.
vespacurry 3 years ago
thank you someone with some sense here. Yeah i hear ya larry was in his late 60's around 9/11 hes old so why would he take down his own building that is the most ridiculous theory of them all. He only got lease to the wtc because another bidder who was higher than him dropped out. Basically all he received was insurance money but it wasn't for himself it was for him to rebuild the trade center. People 4get to realize how much the twin towers weighed. That is why it fell the way it did.
godzilla1234567890 3 years ago
Yhea it takes 5 -10 weeks to set the explosives to PULL a building that tall, we all know that... as for the bids it was 4 consortiums were bidding and Larry was the lowest. No you are quite correct Larry Silverstein said "PULL IT" and what do you know it was dropped perfectly a very professional job, the old footprint technique high explosives and a crimp drop. I don't know the civil laws in New York, in most places you need a demolition permit to do this, but not good old Larry.
vespacurry 3 years ago
exactly and Larry himself even said "so we decided to pull it." You can't just decide at that precise moment well hey i dont like this building lets risk more lives and plant the explosives which would usually take weeks and yet they managed toi plant them in there in less than 3 hours amazing. Thats why i hate conspiracy theorists i mean don't get me wrong past events like TWA Flight 800 theories make sense but 9/11 they just can't prove these pathetic theories and never will be able to.
godzilla1234567890 3 years ago 2
The planning to drop a 46 story building takes 12 -16 weeks. Not to mention the gas cutting of core columns to weaken the structure. Reassuring that the local demolition squad is on hand with enough explosives. Larry never said he planned the demolition he said. PULL IT. So what is the name of the demolition company that sorted all this out in 3 hours. Three hours that sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.
vespacurry 3 years ago
"what do you know it was dropped perfectly a very professional job, the old footprint technique high explosives and a crimp drop"
Stupid piece of shit, trying to pretend you know something about demolition.
It didn't drop perfectly, it took out lots of other buildings & spread debris over ELEVEN ACRES !
The loud BOOM of controlled demo is heard for MILES. This was not. Controlled demo starts at the bottom - this started where the plane hit.
You're just parroting bullshit from PrisonPlanet.
ChopperSix 3 years ago
Hey thanks for the insight and intelligent comments, so good to know you are having some luck with life. As for the facts where did you get your great knowledge of controlled demolition. Anyway Larry said Pull it and that is what he and his friends did,
Pull it does not mean use ropes nor did the fire brigade call him, they don't call property developers when they want advice. Some people believe anything and others are more discerning about information.
vespacurry 3 years ago
yes very true the explosion of a controlled demolition could be heard from a great distance. All you could hear with trade towers 1&2 and building 7 was the building being pullverized. Yes people read this prison planet bullshit and immediately believe 9/11 was an inside job. Wow some research. That site is ran by that douche bag Alex Jones, an anti everything. Exactly the CD would have occured at the bottom and usually appears as if the building never weighed anything because it falls at once.
godzilla1234567890 3 years ago
"Larry Silverstein who on international TV, lease holder of the WTC said pull building 7"
Ignorant pissant. The term "pulled" has nothing whatsoever to do with explosives in the demo industry, which you'd know if you weren't a lazy fuck, too lazy to use Google.
Fools like you make even regular Truthers look almost normal, not an easy thing to do.
Read an engineering article, asswipe. Have your mommy help you with those big words.
HughGQuipment 3 years ago 2