Cameron Sinclair: The refugees of boom-and-bust

[gaiabloke]

princeofexcess, I hear what you are saying re.Government keeping things Legal & above board in the private sector, however in reality there are more Fraudsters in the Government than anywhere else. FACT! Government is not about bringing in change for the betterment of the population, they are puppets installed for the sole purpose of keeping the status quo for the rich ruling elite & to assist the implementation of a world order that serves ONLY the ruling elite.

Woe to the SHEEPLE, Namaste

[glfunk]

The UAE should be picking up the cost, you know the money is there.

[pksaks]

Feed a family for a year AND buy a rolex.

[princeofexcess]

lol

[Daoak28]

Help feed a workers family for a year or buy a rolex?

[TheXpected2]

I want a rolex pretty badly

[ArgueExplain]

I'm sure you could feed several families for a year for the cost of a Rolex.

You could also buy them all normal watches.

[princeofexcess]

stupid youtube i wanted to give you thumbs up misclicked and gave you thumbs down. :/ People are paying for the same thing twice as much because of the brand and they dont even realize it..

[marthale7]

I thought the contrast at the end of the Rolex ad was great.

[mayartay]

Has the TED Talks format changed to only 3 minutes? I wouldn't bother to sit in an auditorium for that, even if it was just down the hallway. Even these videos are becoming a waste of time now. They are just teasers, even when they are interesting.

[mortiphago]

There are long talks (18 mins) and short ones.

[tyrannicoystercult]

@mayartay

cameron sinclair's older full-length speech that won him a TED award is on low cost open source architecture and is well worth watching, one of my favourites form the whole series

[TheNilesLeshProject]

I think the lesson here is that working for the system has no rewards and punishes all but the bankers who finance the system

[tyrbolo]

Does anyone else see the irony of the Rolex

ad opening scene after this talk.

[TheNilesLeshProject]

@tyrbolo ...oh yeah these 2009 TED vids are 50% advertizing 5 minute talk with 2:30 of embedded commercial

[dismutased]

Thanks for speaking up about these kinds of things.

[princeofexcess]

yea lol privite sector more like mafia. Government is there to protect from this kind of private sector lol. Ted talk is getting lame... where is the technology... Stop stupid emotional arguments and brainwashing. This doesnt teach you anything.

[Saktoth]

@princeofexcess

How did you get that conclusion from this? He said 'Its easy to point the finger at the authorities (government) but 99% of these people are hired by the private sector. And therefore WE (He says WE- IE 'we are the private sector') are equally if not more accountable.'

[princeofexcess]

yea i know what he is saying. But its total bullshit. Just because people are corrupt it doesnt mean that private sector is to blame. Government is there to prevent this kind of corruption and it is government failure if it cannot do it. People are corrupt in all countries its human nature. If there be no private sector there is even more corruption. Its like saying its private sectors fault if there is high murder rate.

[cicatriz79]

you must not understand that the only purpose of any government is to furnish the interests of industry and lubricate commerce.

[princeofexcess]

the reason why governments are needed and why they are set up is to prevent market failures. (like for example market will not set up equal laws for everybody it will not set up national defense and police for everybody) Governments tend to however get corrupted and end up aiding certain industries.(a lot of times because of corruption) This is however not their purpose. Free market does not need lubrication it allocates resources best if left alone

[cicatriz79]

you seem to be confused with what is real and what is imagined. in books and on blackboards a government exists to ensure equitable treatment under the law or to defend the nation state - yet in reality the only function it serves, the reason it continues to exist, is to make some people money. some examples of how governments accomplish this: enforcement of property regimes, deregulation of state institutions, moving tax dollars to private interests.

[princeofexcess]

obviously you misunderstand me and certainly i am correct that government is preforming the function to enforce the law and of national defense. I am not denying the misuse of governance and the corruption that happens within the system. All governments in history lead to an elite group forming (in US by breaking constitution amendments and corruption) but governments are necessary evil. (they should be very small and have very limited power) they must exist.

[tyrannicoystercult]

@princeofexcess

you seem to draw a line between government and normal private industry but both are corrupt - the basic formula of how to do well in business is essentially the same as corruption - to get as much money for what you sell and pay as little to get it produced, even if close to or just literally breaking laws or moral expectations of your partners. if you think this isn't a major pillar of business you have never met a business professor or owner.

[princeofexcess]

private industry is ONLY corrupt if the government fails to manage it. The purpose of the GOVERNMENT is to prohibit corruption from happening in private market. Thats why there are laws it is illegal to steal it is illegal to make false promises it is illegal to threaten people and fraud people for money. Government takes care of making free market operate. Of course people are corrupt and try to brake those laws thats why governance should be designed in the way that does not allow for it.

[tyrannicoystercult]

ah i see how you're framing it and I agree. depending on how free a role you give goverment to manage and fix, they could theoretically do things to alter our social landscape quite a bit, taking away the incentive to break laws by making things for our needs plentiful, or some other managerial or mass-information solution, but leading to parts unkown. do you think going to radical new models is a valid path for government? in theory, the private sector is just animated citizens under that state

[princeofexcess]

I think government should enforce the laws and the incentive for breaking the law would diminish. The laws should be formed so basic human rights are protected. Right to your life, right to your property and money, and make it illegal so other frauds cant occur. Laws should prohibit one person stealing from other legally. I do not think current model for government is good. It gives money to companies that made errors from people that didnt make errors. We are paying for other peoples mistakes

[princeofexcess]

there is much more that i dont like in the current government. It should follow constitution and choices should be left for the states. If people like the law in the state they will move there and the state will profit if they dont like it they will run away and state will be forced to change its management. This way people benefit. If federal government grows bigger and bigger only the government benefits because it has more power not the people.

[berserkerkev]

@princeofexcess the human culture(worldwide) that allowed this, and fosters it, must be dismantled and this can only be achieved by opting out of it. We must quit playing - Of course you would have to opt out of ALL the entities that surround(and support) this dominion based event. the entities being heirarchies: government, religion and corporations which ...rule. they are to powerful and controlling to do anything but lessen there hold by ...quitting. quit playing their games. difficult?

[princeofexcess]

what do you mean by quit playing their games? stop voting? stop paying taxes?... for me the only way of fixing the government is to get libertarians into republican office so they decrease the size of the government and fix the economy.

[princeofexcess]

it is not flaw in the privite sector. People are always corrupt. It is the flaw in government. Whether in execution (like law is broken and noone does anything because of corruption) or in government set up (the law is not set up to prevent certain behavior like stealing is legal: btw this happens right now with credit cards)

[ratholin]

pretty damned vast. In most first world countries immigrants get smuggled in illegally or semilegally and then have their passports taken away and are forced to work at percentages of the wages promised with no way home. Weather it's california textiles, or girls getting hired to be waitresses singers or dancers being forced into the sex trade. the tactics are the same. Russian hookers in america are always told they can buy their way out.

[Shaunt1]

He's talking about the workforce of Dubai. They worked in subpar conditions to build the city and now are out of place. I agree they weren't treated very well but they were willing to work that way so...

[funkalunatic]

Actually they weren't. Most are being paid a fraction of what they had agreed to, and they can't go home. It's basically slave labor.

[newexperiment]

Good topic. 60% substance is always a dumber tho.

[KeybdFlyer]

Actually, I thought the Rolex ad. was pretty interesting (just had to internally mute the voice-over). Almost like a mini-documentary. Shame I can't afford even a sweep-second hand of one of their watches!

[moulingalette]

Why would anyone even watch the commercial? Isn't it obvious to click away once the video is over?

[reafdaw01]

pst, they don't know that ;-)

[DrQuijano]

Right. a two minute talk and a three minute commercial.

[pharmgirl14]

I don't really feel like a longer talk by an advertiser about rolex than the actual person giving a lecture was a grand thing to put on a channel who's slogan is "ideas worth spreading"... are you spreading the idea that it's alright to sell out as long as there's a calming voice and soothing music in the background of pretty pictures??

[razorflown2]

@pharmgirl14 Ya, the Rolex thing is definitely gay. But don't forget that it does cost money to put on TED conferences and that maybe if they receive advertising dollars from their 2 min Rolex video, that they might actually be able to increase the quality/quantity of information that is provided to you...free of charge.

[no1saphead]

Who would have thunk it..

[eddiemoon21]

fuck advertising, fuck rolex

[tpsisokayiguess]

I preferred the commercial at the end.

[DrInfidel]

This is no different from slavery. It's not enough the billions of dollars they make, but they wanna build their projects at little to no coast

[Blomvik]

Short and sweet.

And that Rolex commercial at the end is beeeauuutiful!

[dudeconley]

How about using the time after the talk, to show whats being done about the situation.

Who cares about fucking Rolex!!!

[wolffenhaus]

Men love to work and they love congregation. They built railroads, and great cities. What Mr. Sinclair brings to light is that every mans action impacts us all. Every action. Include diverse, unapologetic back up plans as magnificent and original as the projects themselves. Thats the bigger picture.

[NegativeNick]

what the hell are you even talking about?

[purecork]

finally a new TED video... life continues

[NegativeNick]

get out of here with your stupidity

[aarondkeogh]

negativenick does what it says on the tin!

[MetalSupra1982]

haha