@CasesAndMaterials I look forward to the day you and your ilk are food, what more are you than that? Treat others as you will be treated. Now fuck off.
@1221solstice2012 the same to u laura =) btw dont care about "mr cases bla bla bla". he is just a dumb fuck and not worth to be taken seriously and we all know it^^
the human race, the so called "crown of creation" became the biggest parasite on these planet. we did and still do so much wrong and its the biggest shame that the animals did and do NOTHING wrong. nothing.. nothing than to be born as animal and not as human.
@Kanzelschubser You may disagree, but those may be their reincarnated ancestors' eyes they're looking into, making excuses about why it's right to abuse & kill them, and to be their fate as well; that would serve them right, except that more people willing to do the evil means the problem only escalates, so it's a complete & utter failure, and as "erased" innocents those souls no longer deserve suffering. It's just my theory, no less plausible than physical existence here if you think about it.
THIS MAKES MY HEART HURT SO MUCH. AND I HAVE TO LIVE WITH SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T GET INFLUENCED ON THESE VIDEOS, AND HAS NO PROBLEM EATING THESE ANIMALS, BECAUSE THERE YUMMY???
@besthusbandpedro That's funny because I eat amazingly good vegan food every day, don't miss the animal products at all. Here's something your husband might appreciate, and don't get me wrong, I don't care for PETA, but their members are mostly good people:
Vid title: PETA Band interview with Lamb of God, link: watch?v=jb0-4o4bonQ
I am so glad i'm a vegan,in the middle of may i turn 8 months and i'm enjoying every minute of it,i am so against animal cruelty,there is no excuse not to become a vegan the earth have so much to offer.
@1221solstice2012 thanks, with so much going on around us,sometimes thinks seem hard because people can't understand you change your life style sometimes is hard for them to understand that you are a totally a new person almost looks like you born again.
Man has been eating meat since the dawn of recorded time. Our teeth, our systems are made for it. I don't fire up when a lion does what it has to and I don't get angry when a vegan picks that life style. I hate that when a human changes their life they project their believes on everyone with the "accept this way of life or be criticized". Keep making videos criticizing peoples way of life. I know another group that does the same thing with ones beliefs.... just saying....
@ShotgunAPB So you’re proud of “man’s” bloody track record of murder and all the rest.
You imply criticism is tyranny, but you criticize me for stating my position? Look at what you said and if you’re honest you’ll admit you think I and others should be silenced. You must ask yourself why you want others’ views silenced.
People are innovators and do not need meat; it is a choice between abusing and taking life, including that of other people, or not doing that. People have made the wrong choice.
Thats right twist the words.... I didnt say anything about wanted you to be silence. I said I hate it when other push their beliefs onto people that dont share the same views. You are a vegan.... good for you. I eat meat. You say im wrong and your right. I say that is your belief. Im willing to bet you argue the science/god subject too. But hey, if you are right or wrong you are still going to continue. As am I... only difference is, I don't judge you for your life choice.
@ShotgunAPB It's dishonest to say you don't judge me & others for being vegan and speaking up. You're judging me for being judgmental! When you came to my anti-meat video...that's crazy. We're not talking to hostile people like you...we're talking to receptive people...why is that so objectionable to you, what do you care what we say, and so what if I drive a car? I don't consume abused, tortured, slaughtered animals and am very healthy as a result, after 25 years, and I do what I can otherwise.
So its okay to drive a car and help pollute the world and make the animals you want to protect, breath the smog you contrib to? But Killing them fast and giving thanks for the meat is wrong. Oh okay I see. thank you. Vegans love to kill animals slow and painful. Thank you for helping me understand.
@ShotgunAPB "Killing them fast and giving thanks for the meat"...that would be laughable if not so very sadly delusional. You wouldn't wish that life and death of the factory farm and slaughterhouse on your worst enemy, but it's okay for "them." No, it is not okay, far from it, and that's why you're fixated on vegans, trying to convince yourself that you're right by condemning us.
See there is the problem. You assume that I eat meat from the general stores.... I personally raise 4 chickens a month 1 cow a year and 3 pigs every 7 months. I treat them with respect, keep them clean and make sure they are vac'd to prevent hoof rot long failure and such. How I kill them is painless and faster than the agony of a bullet. I store the meet and repeat the process when needed. Have I see what they do in slaughter houses?
yes and i dont agree with it! hanging animals and abusing them is cruel. I don't eat fast food especialy KFC and their mutated chickens. "I"! give thanks for my meals and for the life and the meat I take. With the hides and the spares of anything not okay to eat, I donated 700 pounds of hide and and spares to the plant which turned it into product and was GIVEN(for free) to Haiti victims.
Call me cruel, call me a bastard or call me violent but I love my fellow man more than anything else and that will never change. If i could stomach the loss of my setip/home/way of life...
@ShotgunAPB Ah, you don't love vegans or animal rights activists, but you do love your "fellow man" who does eat meat from the store. Do you really think 7 billion people can "humanely" raise and kill their own animals to eat meat that we don't need? There's plenty of other stuff to eat and export worldwide to feed the 7 billion humans. Animal agriculture is perverse, filthy, wasteful, environmentally a nightmare, and unspeakably cruel, especially without need. It's nice clean B12 pills for me.
@ShotgunAPB Ah yes, manmade is evil when it's some simple little, clean thing vegans use, but all the truly horrible manmade chemicals used in factory farming, the manure/urine saturated hellholes swarming with maggots and so on, and the filthy blood soaked slaughterhouses are okey dokey, just lovely.
@ShotgunAPB How do you know about what or how it was at the dawn of recorded time ? or how do you know about our teeth and systems are made for eating meat ? From our so called '' science '' ? or our '' media '' ? I bet you are one of those people who think vaccinations and fluoride are good for their health :-) ....... just saying ......
Wow... really? Because when its called "recorded time" that means people recorded it... Before vegans before the choice of not eating meat before the writtings of space/time/God/Science. If you would like, I can direct you to a few places with actual writtings of such time?
Last I checked vegetables are living things too, but yet we fill them full of chemicals so they grow nice large reproductive organs that we can rip off and eat, and make them grow more until one day they eventually die. At least animals are killed before or during the harvesting process. If you think we should stop eating -blank- because it's a living thing or being treated badly, then the only solution is to stop eating completely.
@TheNdoki There is nothing to say to someone who can't see the difference between an animal and a vegetable. So there is no difference between YOU and a plant either? Or are you "special"? How very sad for this world; still, the truth and goodness will win in the end.
@miyumii1200 I looked at your page and I see you love animals, so I get your point. You mean you feel lucky to be human and not an animal because of the way so many of them are horribly abused. But people abuse/kill each other too, because killing/abusing animals keeps people's killer instinct going, lessens our regard for each other too. We were supposed to overcome all this and do way better, decrease suffering in this world instead of increasing it. Thanks for commenting.
I never comment videos like this, its beacuse im worried about this too, we are fighting again people, because we are responsible for this, and thats because our function in this planet is far away from its origin, we are the ones that dont belong in earth anymore. we cant fix this unless, we all change the direction of everything. Every animal species in this planet has a function, for itself, and we have our own function for them to satisfy our stupid necesities, like our stupid computers.
wow solstice....... this is one of the best videos iv'e ever seen! People just think.......the animals want to live just as much as you do- but they don't have a choice.THE ONLY DIFFERENCE between animals and humans, is how we treat them.......
but indeed, animals should be killed so brutally. even predator animals kill they're pray better, for example lions suffocate they're pray, almost never eating it alive.
if u are vegan you don't help things at all...the brazilian rain forest is cut down so they can grown you soy, animals are still grown and will be killed, even if no one on this planet would eat meat. why? because they are grounded up and used as a fertilizer for plants etc. 20% of the meat and animal parts are grounded up and used as a natural fertilizer. that's a fact
Well, that is ignorant. There are alternatives to everything. We are humans and we innovate...that drives evolution. And of course vegans help things, the most important of them being the animals we do not eat, and we help our own souls and can improve our health too.
Dairy farms alone use about 50 gallons of water per day per cow: 50,000 gallons per day for 1000 cows. The wastage of precious water alone, on just dairy farms, is enough reason to go vegan. Not to mention the "veal" issue.
well, then explain to me what do you think about the Brazilian rain forest that it's cut down so that your soy can be planted there? 80% of it is down by now. 80%! in 20 years it's gone. maybe even sooner. all those indigenous animals are extremely precious. millions of species will die, if they haven't already. different species. why? because of people like you. you don't see more then 10 seconds ahead.
You people always seem to forget that most of the soy grown in the Brazilian rainforest is to feed "food animals," and they are fed a lot more of it than people eat. So, it is actually YOUR soy, not mine. Vegans eat a lot of other things besides soy. When we do eat tofu, etc., it should be organic non-GMO only. (I'm not going to go on and on about this, so don't waste your time typing if you're going to do more of the same here.)
sorry, you're wrong. soy is not profitable enough to be used as animal food. it's to expensive for that, plus that it's not very productive in ratio with the area cultivated. that's why it's so bad for the rain forest.
Um, no I'm not wrong. The US imports very little soy from Brazil, since the US is a major soy producer. My organic non-GMO soy products are from the US. Livestock producers like to use corn and soy as a base for their animal feed, because these protein-rich grains fatten up their animals, and because theyre incredibly cheap as a result of the government subsidies. Livestock consumes 47% of the soy and 60% of the corn produced in the US.
Livestock is fed with soymeal, grain triticale,oats,barley,all of these crops are almost not used for humans.Also you cannot feed animals alone with this,you need to mix it with silage.Animals are also fed with byproducts of farming,breweries and the biofuel industry.All livestock in the US are fed on pastures till they get to 700/800 pounds then they are either sold to feedplots receiving the food it told or 25% continue to be fed on pastures.
Mixed farming systems utilize about half of all the land used for livestock production systems.Mixed farming systems make the largest contribution to world livestock products with just
over 50 per cent of the meat and 90 per cent of the milk currently consumed being produced in the world.Animals are fed on pastures and with farm residues,there manure is used on fields to feed humans and animals.That is the world reality,not everything is industrial as you seem to believe(source ifad)
Animals don't eat soy but soymeal wich is a byproduct of making soyoil. Soymeal is not for human consumption. Why don't you actually learn something about agriculture?
To make soy oil one must grow soybeans. I avoid soy oil because it's extracted using hexane. Humans could eat soymeal but it's a very cheap byproduct of the soy oil industry so it's used to fatten "food animals."
In your vast majority you should have more confidence than to go around harassing vegans. Do you realize what that's all about?
Full justice is on its way. Action/Reaction, aka Karma, aka mathematical certainty. Humans have special moral knowledge...animals don't. They are innocent.
If animals are innocent you can maybe explain this?
Dead porpoises (and other cetaceans) turn up regularly on beaches around Britain. According to a Defra report last year , the cause of death of 15 out of 56 porpoise bodies found - the majority - was "physical trauma (bottlenose dolphin attack)".And the bottlenose killers are not eating the porpoises they kill."Killing for fun" could be another culturally transmitted behaviour.
Animals are innocent of human moral knowledge. What they do is not for us to condemn or imitate.
Humans have special knowledge of right vs. wrong, and willfully subject innocent lives...especially animals...to the worst, most hellish existences and deaths possible, on a mass scale, daily, while pretending it's perfectly normal and acceptable. One of the phony excuses: "Look what animals do," while also claiming moral and spiritual superiority over them. It's psychotic.
Thank you for speaking up for those innocent creatures whose lives depend on our mercy, and who are rarely heard or noticed amongst the carnage of our own greed and disgraceful conduct towards them. Are they invisible or do we just not care any more?
Thank you Maria. They certainly aren't invisible, except to those in denial. And did most people ever really care about much beyond their own selfish desires? Because of that, this world is a much worse place than it should be, for everyone.
Thank you DianeDi. And people are walking graveyards, with no innate hunting abilities, no serviceable canine teeth, no real need for meat, no place in nature's food chain, with their vile factory farms, slaughterhouses, and bloody supermarket packages. They're not at the top of the food chain like they always boast, but are more like some freakish out-of-control cancerous growth squatting on that "food chain" and smothering the life out of everything, even themselves.
The human spirit is not dead. It lives on in secret.... It has come to believe that compassion, in which all ethics must take root, can only attain its full breadth and depth if it embraces all living creatures and does not limit itself to mankind.
I've seen so many of these videos and I'm already a vegetarian investigating kill-free farms for dairy and eggs. I couldn't watch it all, but I sincerely applaud you for putting this together and making a difference. It DOES count. Thank you so much.
Time for change is now not tomorrow.. to stop being a part of this barbarism will not take something away from your life, it will add to it, it will add strength of character that the weak among us in the most part envy & for that will criticize you, but your choice of compassion & fairness will set you aside, as your will is stronger than theirs.. most of them cant even bring themselves to watch what they cause.. As for those who revel in cruelty, need I comment....!
They are food so what?
CasesAndMaterials 3 weeks ago
@CasesAndMaterials I look forward to the day you and your ilk are food, what more are you than that? Treat others as you will be treated. Now fuck off.
1221solstice2012 3 weeks ago
@CasesAndMaterials thanks again for the proof that carnivores are just pathetic idiots. if your head were made of glass, we could see shit at work^^
Kanzelschubser 2 weeks ago
@Kanzelschubser ❤ I have to thank them for that a lot too. ...Have a fantastic week.
1221solstice2012 1 week ago
@1221solstice2012 the same to u laura =) btw dont care about "mr cases bla bla bla". he is just a dumb fuck and not worth to be taken seriously and we all know it^^
Kanzelschubser 1 week ago
the human race, the so called "crown of creation" became the biggest parasite on these planet. we did and still do so much wrong and its the biggest shame that the animals did and do NOTHING wrong. nothing.. nothing than to be born as animal and not as human.
Kanzelschubser 1 month ago
@Kanzelschubser You may disagree, but those may be their reincarnated ancestors' eyes they're looking into, making excuses about why it's right to abuse & kill them, and to be their fate as well; that would serve them right, except that more people willing to do the evil means the problem only escalates, so it's a complete & utter failure, and as "erased" innocents those souls no longer deserve suffering. It's just my theory, no less plausible than physical existence here if you think about it.
1221solstice2012 1 month ago
Thanks, and I agree, I don't miss it at all and it acually grosses me out and saddens me when I do see it.
besthusbandpedro 3 months ago
THIS MAKES MY HEART HURT SO MUCH. AND I HAVE TO LIVE WITH SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T GET INFLUENCED ON THESE VIDEOS, AND HAS NO PROBLEM EATING THESE ANIMALS, BECAUSE THERE YUMMY???
besthusbandpedro 3 months ago
@besthusbandpedro That's funny because I eat amazingly good vegan food every day, don't miss the animal products at all. Here's something your husband might appreciate, and don't get me wrong, I don't care for PETA, but their members are mostly good people:
Vid title: PETA Band interview with Lamb of God, link: watch?v=jb0-4o4bonQ
Again thanks my friend!
1221solstice2012 3 months ago
we are anonymous. we do not forget. we do not forgive.
TheAnonymousAdvocate 7 months ago
I am so glad i'm a vegan,in the middle of may i turn 8 months and i'm enjoying every minute of it,i am so against animal cruelty,there is no excuse not to become a vegan the earth have so much to offer.
ruthomom 9 months ago
@ruthomom Love & respect to you :-) ...I've been vegan (with occasional lapses but strict now) for 25 years and LOVE it still and always will.
1221solstice2012 9 months ago
@1221solstice2012 thanks, with so much going on around us,sometimes thinks seem hard because people can't understand you change your life style sometimes is hard for them to understand that you are a totally a new person almost looks like you born again.
ruthomom 9 months ago
@MrWhateva2010 No prob, will do...keep pretending what you do is right.
1221solstice2012 1 year ago 3
Man has been eating meat since the dawn of recorded time. Our teeth, our systems are made for it. I don't fire up when a lion does what it has to and I don't get angry when a vegan picks that life style. I hate that when a human changes their life they project their believes on everyone with the "accept this way of life or be criticized". Keep making videos criticizing peoples way of life. I know another group that does the same thing with ones beliefs.... just saying....
ShotgunAPB 1 year ago
@ShotgunAPB So you’re proud of “man’s” bloody track record of murder and all the rest.
You imply criticism is tyranny, but you criticize me for stating my position? Look at what you said and if you’re honest you’ll admit you think I and others should be silenced. You must ask yourself why you want others’ views silenced.
People are innovators and do not need meat; it is a choice between abusing and taking life, including that of other people, or not doing that. People have made the wrong choice.
1221solstice2012 1 year ago
@1221solstice2012
Thats right twist the words.... I didnt say anything about wanted you to be silence. I said I hate it when other push their beliefs onto people that dont share the same views. You are a vegan.... good for you. I eat meat. You say im wrong and your right. I say that is your belief. Im willing to bet you argue the science/god subject too. But hey, if you are right or wrong you are still going to continue. As am I... only difference is, I don't judge you for your life choice.
ShotgunAPB 1 year ago
@1221solstice2012
Also... I bet you drive a car don't you? No? Ride a bike? Did you know what goes into making the raw mats for those?
ShotgunAPB 1 year ago
@ShotgunAPB It's dishonest to say you don't judge me & others for being vegan and speaking up. You're judging me for being judgmental! When you came to my anti-meat video...that's crazy. We're not talking to hostile people like you...we're talking to receptive people...why is that so objectionable to you, what do you care what we say, and so what if I drive a car? I don't consume abused, tortured, slaughtered animals and am very healthy as a result, after 25 years, and I do what I can otherwise.
1221solstice2012 1 year ago
@1221solstice2012
So its okay to drive a car and help pollute the world and make the animals you want to protect, breath the smog you contrib to? But Killing them fast and giving thanks for the meat is wrong. Oh okay I see. thank you. Vegans love to kill animals slow and painful. Thank you for helping me understand.
ShotgunAPB 1 year ago
@ShotgunAPB "Killing them fast and giving thanks for the meat"...that would be laughable if not so very sadly delusional. You wouldn't wish that life and death of the factory farm and slaughterhouse on your worst enemy, but it's okay for "them." No, it is not okay, far from it, and that's why you're fixated on vegans, trying to convince yourself that you're right by condemning us.
1221solstice2012 1 year ago
@1221solstice2012 .
See there is the problem. You assume that I eat meat from the general stores.... I personally raise 4 chickens a month 1 cow a year and 3 pigs every 7 months. I treat them with respect, keep them clean and make sure they are vac'd to prevent hoof rot long failure and such. How I kill them is painless and faster than the agony of a bullet. I store the meet and repeat the process when needed. Have I see what they do in slaughter houses?
ShotgunAPB 1 year ago
@1221solstice2012
yes and i dont agree with it! hanging animals and abusing them is cruel. I don't eat fast food especialy KFC and their mutated chickens. "I"! give thanks for my meals and for the life and the meat I take. With the hides and the spares of anything not okay to eat, I donated 700 pounds of hide and and spares to the plant which turned it into product and was GIVEN(for free) to Haiti victims.
ShotgunAPB 1 year ago
Call me cruel, call me a bastard or call me violent but I love my fellow man more than anything else and that will never change. If i could stomach the loss of my setip/home/way of life...
ShotgunAPB 1 year ago
@ShotgunAPB Ah, you don't love vegans or animal rights activists, but you do love your "fellow man" who does eat meat from the store. Do you really think 7 billion people can "humanely" raise and kill their own animals to eat meat that we don't need? There's plenty of other stuff to eat and export worldwide to feed the 7 billion humans. Animal agriculture is perverse, filthy, wasteful, environmentally a nightmare, and unspeakably cruel, especially without need. It's nice clean B12 pills for me.
1221solstice2012 1 year ago
@1221solstice2012
Yeah, thats what I was waiting for. You have to take a man made pill to get something specific which means you just proved my point.
ShotgunAPB 1 year ago
@ShotgunAPB Ah yes, manmade is evil when it's some simple little, clean thing vegans use, but all the truly horrible manmade chemicals used in factory farming, the manure/urine saturated hellholes swarming with maggots and so on, and the filthy blood soaked slaughterhouses are okey dokey, just lovely.
1221solstice2012 1 year ago
@ShotgunAPB How do you know about what or how it was at the dawn of recorded time ? or how do you know about our teeth and systems are made for eating meat ? From our so called '' science '' ? or our '' media '' ? I bet you are one of those people who think vaccinations and fluoride are good for their health :-) ....... just saying ......
lilisigel 1 year ago
@lilisigel
Wow... really? Because when its called "recorded time" that means people recorded it... Before vegans before the choice of not eating meat before the writtings of space/time/God/Science. If you would like, I can direct you to a few places with actual writtings of such time?
ShotgunAPB 1 year ago
Last I checked vegetables are living things too, but yet we fill them full of chemicals so they grow nice large reproductive organs that we can rip off and eat, and make them grow more until one day they eventually die. At least animals are killed before or during the harvesting process. If you think we should stop eating -blank- because it's a living thing or being treated badly, then the only solution is to stop eating completely.
TheNdoki 1 year ago
@TheNdoki There is nothing to say to someone who can't see the difference between an animal and a vegetable. So there is no difference between YOU and a plant either? Or are you "special"? How very sad for this world; still, the truth and goodness will win in the end.
1221solstice2012 1 year ago
@TheNdoki Last I checked the pigs could not fly too, but yet people are talking nonsense about plants and animals. Are you from our planet ?
lilisigel 1 year ago
FUCK OUR WORLD
ThePlanbsucks 1 year ago
fucking hippie!
PD19954 1 year ago
now im glad im a human.. ive been wanting to be a animal since i was 1.... :O
miyumii1200 1 year ago
@miyumii1200 I looked at your page and I see you love animals, so I get your point. You mean you feel lucky to be human and not an animal because of the way so many of them are horribly abused. But people abuse/kill each other too, because killing/abusing animals keeps people's killer instinct going, lessens our regard for each other too. We were supposed to overcome all this and do way better, decrease suffering in this world instead of increasing it. Thanks for commenting.
1221solstice2012 1 year ago
great video...but very sad
SlumberCloud 1 year ago
Maybe people understands now how "healty" meat is!
Cause we eat there pain and suffering and may believe that it's "good"
So ,thing twice: stop eating meat!
leineke1 1 year ago
The whole world must see this video!
Maybe then people would eat less meat
and hopefully once people stop eat meat !!
bibimarlou 1 year ago 2
@bibimarlou I was eating a steak while watching this.... ^.^ It was amazing.........
irken8313 1 year ago
I never comment videos like this, its beacuse im worried about this too, we are fighting again people, because we are responsible for this, and thats because our function in this planet is far away from its origin, we are the ones that dont belong in earth anymore. we cant fix this unless, we all change the direction of everything. Every animal species in this planet has a function, for itself, and we have our own function for them to satisfy our stupid necesities, like our stupid computers.
metalsapo 2 years ago
Beautiful song... It goes great with this video... It's so sad to see those poor animals, but it's so good to know that I don't eat them anymore :)
Thanks, Solstice. 5 stars. Great vid.
HinataAngel5 2 years ago 2
wow solstice....... this is one of the best videos iv'e ever seen! People just think.......the animals want to live just as much as you do- but they don't have a choice.THE ONLY DIFFERENCE between animals and humans, is how we treat them.......
ProudToBeVeggie 2 years ago
but indeed, animals should be killed so brutally. even predator animals kill they're pray better, for example lions suffocate they're pray, almost never eating it alive.
ChronicMist 2 years ago
wow soo sad. but this makes me feel good about myself and others who are vegan :)
Denise21340 2 years ago 3
if u are vegan you don't help things at all...the brazilian rain forest is cut down so they can grown you soy, animals are still grown and will be killed, even if no one on this planet would eat meat. why? because they are grounded up and used as a fertilizer for plants etc. 20% of the meat and animal parts are grounded up and used as a natural fertilizer. that's a fact
ChronicMist 2 years ago
Well, that is ignorant. There are alternatives to everything. We are humans and we innovate...that drives evolution. And of course vegans help things, the most important of them being the animals we do not eat, and we help our own souls and can improve our health too.
Dairy farms alone use about 50 gallons of water per day per cow: 50,000 gallons per day for 1000 cows. The wastage of precious water alone, on just dairy farms, is enough reason to go vegan. Not to mention the "veal" issue.
1221solstice2012 2 years ago
well, then explain to me what do you think about the Brazilian rain forest that it's cut down so that your soy can be planted there? 80% of it is down by now. 80%! in 20 years it's gone. maybe even sooner. all those indigenous animals are extremely precious. millions of species will die, if they haven't already. different species. why? because of people like you. you don't see more then 10 seconds ahead.
ChronicMist 2 years ago
You people always seem to forget that most of the soy grown in the Brazilian rainforest is to feed "food animals," and they are fed a lot more of it than people eat. So, it is actually YOUR soy, not mine. Vegans eat a lot of other things besides soy. When we do eat tofu, etc., it should be organic non-GMO only. (I'm not going to go on and on about this, so don't waste your time typing if you're going to do more of the same here.)
1221solstice2012 2 years ago
sorry, you're wrong. soy is not profitable enough to be used as animal food. it's to expensive for that, plus that it's not very productive in ratio with the area cultivated. that's why it's so bad for the rain forest.
ChronicMist 2 years ago
Um, no I'm not wrong. The US imports very little soy from Brazil, since the US is a major soy producer. My organic non-GMO soy products are from the US. Livestock producers like to use corn and soy as a base for their animal feed, because these protein-rich grains fatten up their animals, and because theyre incredibly cheap as a result of the government subsidies. Livestock consumes 47% of the soy and 60% of the corn produced in the US.
I'm sick of this, so let's end it now.
1221solstice2012 2 years ago
Livestock is fed with soymeal, grain triticale,oats,barley,all of these crops are almost not used for humans.Also you cannot feed animals alone with this,you need to mix it with silage.Animals are also fed with byproducts of farming,breweries and the biofuel industry.All livestock in the US are fed on pastures till they get to 700/800 pounds then they are either sold to feedplots receiving the food it told or 25% continue to be fed on pastures.
celt130 1 year ago
Mixed farming systems utilize about half of all the land used for livestock production systems.Mixed farming systems make the largest contribution to world livestock products with just
over 50 per cent of the meat and 90 per cent of the milk currently consumed being produced in the world.Animals are fed on pastures and with farm residues,there manure is used on fields to feed humans and animals.That is the world reality,not everything is industrial as you seem to believe(source ifad)
celt130 1 year ago
Animals don't eat soy but soymeal wich is a byproduct of making soyoil. Soymeal is not for human consumption. Why don't you actually learn something about agriculture?
celt130 1 year ago
To make soy oil one must grow soybeans. I avoid soy oil because it's extracted using hexane. Humans could eat soymeal but it's a very cheap byproduct of the soy oil industry so it's used to fatten "food animals."
In your vast majority you should have more confidence than to go around harassing vegans. Do you realize what that's all about?
Full justice is on its way. Action/Reaction, aka Karma, aka mathematical certainty. Humans have special moral knowledge...animals don't. They are innocent.
1221solstice2012 1 year ago
If animals are innocent you can maybe explain this?
Dead porpoises (and other cetaceans) turn up regularly on beaches around Britain. According to a Defra report last year , the cause of death of 15 out of 56 porpoise bodies found - the majority - was "physical trauma (bottlenose dolphin attack)".And the bottlenose killers are not eating the porpoises they kill."Killing for fun" could be another culturally transmitted behaviour.
celt130 1 year ago
Animals are innocent of human moral knowledge. What they do is not for us to condemn or imitate.
Humans have special knowledge of right vs. wrong, and willfully subject innocent lives...especially animals...to the worst, most hellish existences and deaths possible, on a mass scale, daily, while pretending it's perfectly normal and acceptable. One of the phony excuses: "Look what animals do," while also claiming moral and spiritual superiority over them. It's psychotic.
No point continuing this..
1221solstice2012 1 year ago
thank-you for this...
londonrocks 2 years ago
Great video 5 stars!
1unguarded 2 years ago 2
Thank you for speaking up for those innocent creatures whose lives depend on our mercy, and who are rarely heard or noticed amongst the carnage of our own greed and disgraceful conduct towards them. Are they invisible or do we just not care any more?
rockinfortheplanet 2 years ago 2
Thank you Maria. They certainly aren't invisible, except to those in denial. And did most people ever really care about much beyond their own selfish desires? Because of that, this world is a much worse place than it should be, for everyone.
1221solstice2012 2 years ago
Excellent video ! Heart disease, cancer, diabetes, obesity, auto-immune diseases are these animals ultimate revenge from the grave. Go vegan ...
DianeDi 2 years ago 3
Thank you DianeDi. And people are walking graveyards, with no innate hunting abilities, no serviceable canine teeth, no real need for meat, no place in nature's food chain, with their vile factory farms, slaughterhouses, and bloody supermarket packages. They're not at the top of the food chain like they always boast, but are more like some freakish out-of-control cancerous growth squatting on that "food chain" and smothering the life out of everything, even themselves.
1221solstice2012 2 years ago
The human spirit is not dead. It lives on in secret.... It has come to believe that compassion, in which all ethics must take root, can only attain its full breadth and depth if it embraces all living creatures and does not limit itself to mankind.
Ry4n 2 years ago 4
Videos like this make me want to be/keep me on track
EcoLogicality 2 years ago 5
Hello again...what a nice compliment...thank you!
1221solstice2012 2 years ago
I've seen so many of these videos and I'm already a vegetarian investigating kill-free farms for dairy and eggs. I couldn't watch it all, but I sincerely applaud you for putting this together and making a difference. It DOES count. Thank you so much.
Yalf111 2 years ago 4
There is no justification..
Time for change is now not tomorrow.. to stop being a part of this barbarism will not take something away from your life, it will add to it, it will add strength of character that the weak among us in the most part envy & for that will criticize you, but your choice of compassion & fairness will set you aside, as your will is stronger than theirs.. most of them cant even bring themselves to watch what they cause.. As for those who revel in cruelty, need I comment....!
2manylost 2 years ago 4