@iskoglund1 I think she did a lot for Argentina. She was not a saint, but she fought for her convictions.The ideas were great, but not so well the ways of some of them. Even she made mistakes I think she is someone to admire...And its sad to see that Cristina Kirschner wants to copycat Eva Peron. Evita with her gifts and faillures was a real lady and Cristina...well, I still cant guess that.
@eirino0369 I support the ideas of corporate state and Third Position that makes it possible to unite all the best things of capitalism and socialism. If you consider the condition of Argentina in the 1940s and 1950s and international situation then you would see that Eva and Juan Peron were the best possible rulers.
I was born in Russia and we had some similar government during Communist rule but they made many misstakes that Perons avoided. For example, Perons supported religion and I like it.
I love Eva Perón! She did so much for Argentina! I would rule like her! She built many appartments for workers but she died too early so didn't finished her work.
Who knew Jonathan Pryce Could sing! I only knew him as Governor Swann in Pirates of the Caribbean. He's very good. I really loved this scene and this song. Andrew Lloyd Webber creates some beautiful music. I love it.
ohmigosh - Jonathan Pryce was appearing in the West End in musicals like Miss Saigon years and years before POTC! so you have lots of great performances to catch up on.
Is it really so that no-one nowadays knows how to think objectively with feelings?! So all the most important matters get washed away, get no reaction at all. I watched a Hitler speech (with English subtitles) in YouTube: what a difference! Just a few short decades ago everyone was able to think with the help of feelings. Feelings are a mark of an important question (+ or -), so the ability to think with feelings is a thing that matters really lot to the fate of the world!
It's such a simplification to suggest that Peron was a mere fascist. His philosophy, Justicialismo, was far more complicated than that. Many of his programs were very Marxist in approach.
For a "facist", en't it funny how he sought out Jews for his government and high positions of power and even had a Jewish lobby in his government. Also facism is a disgusting, horrible philosophy and I don't respect anybody who follows it like yourself. Facists are total scumbags.
yep Juan Peron was very complicated man, he may have help former nazis to seek poltical aslyum but the jews experience prosperity and not any discrimiation or persecution in arengtina, in fact argentina during the perons time was one of the best places in the world for jews Peron was a complicated man
@onikalove a "complicated man" who abandoned his wife while she was dying and threw his country into chaos. Sorry but in my view a dictator's a dictator, elected or not.
that is not historical accurate he did not abandoned evita, actaully he wanted her to rest and everything so she could have more time but she did not listen. as for sending his country in chaos, it was the poor and middle class that opposed him and had him over thrown . it was the miltarity and the upper class that sent the countrty in chaos. historically Peron was a very complicated man every unbias historian knows that!
@onikalove sorry, but I do not trust Peronist historians. I would not like a list of your historians, since they are probably all Nazi/communist lovers, but thanks for the offer. I've studied Eva for along time, and I'm sorry to say that the cons far outweigh the pros. I'm glad you disagreed with me civilly though.
@OrganicAndFree Peronism was fascism, socialism, and Catholicism rolled into one. It doesn't work. My name says evaperonfan, but while I admire her for standing up for women's rights and for the poor, I do not admire her politics. You can admire someone without admiring everything about them. It's like I like Elizabeth I, but I don't like that she killed people.
ita if you went to high school in the 90's you grew up on this stuff. and sunset boulevard...that is like poetry onstage. no one really ever knew I listened to it but I did.
peron in reality really did love her, he took a big risk in bringing her front and center and marrying her. men of his time and status didn't marry their mistress, let alone let them sit in politically meetings. it is said he became a drunkard after her death and on his deathbed in 74 he told someone he was happiest with evita
God! Webber is such a jackass. He pretty much stole two songs from the two groups I admire the most. Pink Floyd and The Beatles.
If you don't hear the resemblance between this song and "Here There and Everywhere" you are an idiot. The rhythm is SLIGHTLY different. If you need to, just look for sheet music of both compositions.
Also, the main theme of Phantom of the Opera came from Pink Floyd's song called "Echoes." This time it's even more similar. Once again, look at the sheet music.
I could hear a bit from the Phantom of the Opera, the opening tune seemed to be the same in both songs.
I listened close to the 'here there everywhere' and I just can't put my finger on it. He may have similar notes, but I will not say he stole it from that song... it's not nearly close enough.
Don't forget Webber is one of the all time great song / musical writers. His talents were showing when he was just a child, so I can't label him as a theif.
They..Evaand Jaun loved each other vary much. Jaun stated years after her death and he was remarried then that he was the happiest when he and Eva were together. Also Eva delayed the doctors as she had her own mind and used it. They were each others best assits. And love to boot. Thats a story in its self and would have like to have seen more of that in the flim. But I love the flim for what it is...a musical not true history.
bs3bloke is actually right. I know professional singers who can't stand ALW for this reason, and I feel like they know what they are talking about. But hey, you like what you like. If you like derivative stuff, so be it. I am certainly guilty of this... :)
Oh yes it does - despite Jonathan Pryce's semi-spoken delivery, it's a total rip-off of the bridge in 'Here, There and Everywhere'. Macca ought to sue - help pay off his divorce costs :-)
Michael Jackson owns the publishing rights to the Beatles' catalog, so he would be the most likely plaintiff in any lawsuit. The fact that he hasn't brought suit should indicate that his experts have told him there isn't a case.
You're probably right. Look at 'Memory' from 'Cats' = Ravel's Bolero! 'The First Man You Remember' from 'Aspects Of Love' = 'They Didn't Believe Me' by Jerome Kern. There are many more...ALW has made his money by doing bugger all!
Juan didn't love Eva this much. In reality he refused to let her have painkillers, didn't go and see her on her sickbed, forced her to make speeches while she was dying, wouldn't get her get an operation until it was too late, and never told her she had cancer. He believed she would be more useful to him dead than alive. Her obsessive worship of him was repaid with abuse and abandonment and him forcing her to die in horrid pain so he could preserve her body as a symbol for Peronism.
that's not true. juan never force evita to make the speeches she did it on her own she wanted too.evita knew she was sick she put off the doctors juan was the one who got her to the doctors that's when he found out she was dying, true he didn't tell her but he never refused her painkillers, he preserved her body because she asked him to make sure she was not forgooten that was what he could think of. he did love her men of his social class at that time did not marry women like evita.
this is the best redition of this song I have heard- it was full of emotion and passion which many times I have not seen in the live version.
thekid1972 1 year ago
this is the best redition of this song I have heard- it was full of emotion and passion which many times I have not seen in the live version
thekid1972 1 year ago
The piano part in this song is amazing, so lovely...
redstar268 1 year ago 4
love it sooooo much
sorchasmith 1 year ago
I love Eva Perón! She did so much for Argentina! I would rule like her. I want to visit her grave and leave flowers on it.
iskoglund1 1 year ago
@iskoglund1 I think she did a lot for Argentina. She was not a saint, but she fought for her convictions.The ideas were great, but not so well the ways of some of them. Even she made mistakes I think she is someone to admire...And its sad to see that Cristina Kirschner wants to copycat Eva Peron. Evita with her gifts and faillures was a real lady and Cristina...well, I still cant guess that.
eirino0369 1 year ago
@eirino0369 I support the ideas of corporate state and Third Position that makes it possible to unite all the best things of capitalism and socialism. If you consider the condition of Argentina in the 1940s and 1950s and international situation then you would see that Eva and Juan Peron were the best possible rulers.
I was born in Russia and we had some similar government during Communist rule but they made many misstakes that Perons avoided. For example, Perons supported religion and I like it.
iskoglund1 1 year ago
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iskoglund1 1 year ago
I love Eva Perón! She did so much for Argentina! I would rule like her! She built many appartments for workers but she died too early so didn't finished her work.
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great singer great song great emotion
piyo1988 2 years ago
Jonathan Pryce was a great actor... Brazil was one movie I always remember him... also Tomorrow never dies.
hectec16 2 years ago 3
Who knew Jonathan Pryce Could sing! I only knew him as Governor Swann in Pirates of the Caribbean. He's very good. I really loved this scene and this song. Andrew Lloyd Webber creates some beautiful music. I love it.
RosesNightengales 2 years ago 5
ohmigosh - Jonathan Pryce was appearing in the West End in musicals like Miss Saigon years and years before POTC! so you have lots of great performances to catch up on.
starnarcosis 2 years ago
great singer great song great emotion
shakeshaftthomas 2 years ago 2
Is it really so that no-one nowadays knows how to think objectively with feelings?! So all the most important matters get washed away, get no reaction at all. I watched a Hitler speech (with English subtitles) in YouTube: what a difference! Just a few short decades ago everyone was able to think with the help of feelings. Feelings are a mark of an important question (+ or -), so the ability to think with feelings is a thing that matters really lot to the fate of the world!
khtervola 2 years ago 3
I love this song it always makes me cry.
Ponylover115 2 years ago 11
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i love peron , i love fascism
LolloSpinaceto 2 years ago
It's such a simplification to suggest that Peron was a mere fascist. His philosophy, Justicialismo, was far more complicated than that. Many of his programs were very Marxist in approach.
rmm413c 2 years ago 2
For a "facist", en't it funny how he sought out Jews for his government and high positions of power and even had a Jewish lobby in his government. Also facism is a disgusting, horrible philosophy and I don't respect anybody who follows it like yourself. Facists are total scumbags.
OrganicAndFree 2 years ago
yep Juan Peron was very complicated man, he may have help former nazis to seek poltical aslyum but the jews experience prosperity and not any discrimiation or persecution in arengtina, in fact argentina during the perons time was one of the best places in the world for jews Peron was a complicated man
onikalove 2 years ago
@onikalove a "complicated man" who abandoned his wife while she was dying and threw his country into chaos. Sorry but in my view a dictator's a dictator, elected or not.
GoddessofCoruscant 1 year ago
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that is not historical accurate he did not abandoned evita, actaully he wanted her to rest and everything so she could have more time but she did not listen. as for sending his country in chaos, it was the poor and middle class that opposed him and had him over thrown . it was the miltarity and the upper class that sent the countrty in chaos. historically Peron was a very complicated man every unbias historian knows that!
onikalove 1 year ago
@onikalove sorry, but I do not trust Peronist historians. I would not like a list of your historians, since they are probably all Nazi/communist lovers, but thanks for the offer. I've studied Eva for along time, and I'm sorry to say that the cons far outweigh the pros. I'm glad you disagreed with me civilly though.
GoddessofCoruscant 1 year ago
@OrganicAndFree Peronism was fascism, socialism, and Catholicism rolled into one. It doesn't work. My name says evaperonfan, but while I admire her for standing up for women's rights and for the poor, I do not admire her politics. You can admire someone without admiring everything about them. It's like I like Elizabeth I, but I don't like that she killed people.
evaperonfan 1 year ago
I Love this song so much!
He really did a amazing job in this movie!
SabientjeMadonna 2 years ago 16
I think so too.
Ponylover115 2 years ago
Jonathan Pryce is amazing. But i don't like that he is just speaking in this video. Why not sing?
mazsizsuzsi 2 years ago
he is speech-singing. listen again.
christiangurl25 2 years ago
HOW DARE YOU DISS ALW!
ohmightyalw 2 years ago
ita if you went to high school in the 90's you grew up on this stuff. and sunset boulevard...that is like poetry onstage. no one really ever knew I listened to it but I did.
palmtree5678 2 years ago 3
Jonathan Pryce did an amazing job in this movie.
Pugmomtammy 2 years ago 4
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palmtree5678 2 years ago
You can really tell in his voice he loves Eva. She does her best to keep everyone on guard. Juan doesn't want her die.
MichaelCrawfordsFan 3 years ago
peron in reality really did love her, he took a big risk in bringing her front and center and marrying her. men of his time and status didn't marry their mistress, let alone let them sit in politically meetings. it is said he became a drunkard after her death and on his deathbed in 74 he told someone he was happiest with evita
onikalove 2 years ago 4
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God! Webber is such a jackass. He pretty much stole two songs from the two groups I admire the most. Pink Floyd and The Beatles.
If you don't hear the resemblance between this song and "Here There and Everywhere" you are an idiot. The rhythm is SLIGHTLY different. If you need to, just look for sheet music of both compositions.
Also, the main theme of Phantom of the Opera came from Pink Floyd's song called "Echoes." This time it's even more similar. Once again, look at the sheet music.
lucasiskewl 3 years ago
I could hear a bit from the Phantom of the Opera, the opening tune seemed to be the same in both songs.
I listened close to the 'here there everywhere' and I just can't put my finger on it. He may have similar notes, but I will not say he stole it from that song... it's not nearly close enough.
Don't forget Webber is one of the all time great song / musical writers. His talents were showing when he was just a child, so I can't label him as a theif.
I do see your point to an extent.
bubba85715 2 years ago 3
The cast in this movie was so brilliant. To me Pryce and Banderes both completely outshine Madonna (who was also great)
joncurtis199 3 years ago 4
Jonathan Pryce played the Engineer in the orig
inal London production of Miss Saigon too, did
n't he? At least that's what I could have swor
n the CD I had back in the day said before I w
ore it out.
passionsfanNBC 3 years ago
They..Evaand Jaun loved each other vary much. Jaun stated years after her death and he was remarried then that he was the happiest when he and Eva were together. Also Eva delayed the doctors as she had her own mind and used it. They were each others best assits. And love to boot. Thats a story in its self and would have like to have seen more of that in the flim. But I love the flim for what it is...a musical not true history.
msrobin1955 3 years ago 2
true so true
onikalove 2 years ago
bs3bloke is actually right. I know professional singers who can't stand ALW for this reason, and I feel like they know what they are talking about. But hey, you like what you like. If you like derivative stuff, so be it. I am certainly guilty of this... :)
tony225 3 years ago
Yet another ALW webber song that is, at best, derivative and more likely plagiarised. Have a listen to "Here, There and Everywhere" by the Beatles...
bs3bloke 3 years ago
This sounds nothing at all like "Here, There and Everywhere."
torchkit 3 years ago
Oh yes it does - despite Jonathan Pryce's semi-spoken delivery, it's a total rip-off of the bridge in 'Here, There and Everywhere'. Macca ought to sue - help pay off his divorce costs :-)
jmharrison51 3 years ago 3
Michael Jackson owns the publishing rights to the Beatles' catalog, so he would be the most likely plaintiff in any lawsuit. The fact that he hasn't brought suit should indicate that his experts have told him there isn't a case.
torchkit 3 years ago
I suggest you get your ears tested
bs3bloke 3 years ago
You're probably right. Look at 'Memory' from 'Cats' = Ravel's Bolero! 'The First Man You Remember' from 'Aspects Of Love' = 'They Didn't Believe Me' by Jerome Kern. There are many more...ALW has made his money by doing bugger all!
filthybaggage 3 years ago
por favor... dejen la historia argentina para los que saben... esto es solo una hermosa cancion de un hermoso musical
MARIANOHARRY1980 3 years ago 3
This is my favourite song from the musical. Its so powerful
stinkinape 3 years ago
jonathan pryce sing perfect and sad...in my eyes ;)) thanks for posting
gt30002 3 years ago 2
get your history right and facts right
onikalove 3 years ago 2
Juan didn't love Eva this much. In reality he refused to let her have painkillers, didn't go and see her on her sickbed, forced her to make speeches while she was dying, wouldn't get her get an operation until it was too late, and never told her she had cancer. He believed she would be more useful to him dead than alive. Her obsessive worship of him was repaid with abuse and abandonment and him forcing her to die in horrid pain so he could preserve her body as a symbol for Peronism.
AndromedaMariaCarmen 3 years ago
that's not true. juan never force evita to make the speeches she did it on her own she wanted too.evita knew she was sick she put off the doctors juan was the one who got her to the doctors that's when he found out she was dying, true he didn't tell her but he never refused her painkillers, he preserved her body because she asked him to make sure she was not forgooten that was what he could think of. he did love her men of his social class at that time did not marry women like evita.
onikalove 3 years ago 6