Capoeira Angola Conference L.A. '03 - Chicago & Neterkeht

[neterkeht1]

We will be hosting our annual roda at the san francisco carnival again this year. Come one come all, bring a good attitude and good energy. Contact me for details. Just for the record, there are many famous and well respected mestres that have never been "officially graduated" and promoted themselves after less than ten years in the art. with a little research you will be shocked to know who they are. Also I have been with Mestre Baruti 21 years, he did not call himself Mestre...others did.

[jmsatty]

Date??? Time??? Place???

[Thekingisamongstus]

What Is low country Capoeria? Is that referencing the Low Country South Carolina area?

[jmsatty]

Chicago (Erik Murray) named his group Low Country Capoeria Angola when he established it in Savannah, GA some years back. So yes, it refers to the Low Country extending from South Kakalakee down to Georgia, home to the Gullahs and "Knocking and Kicking."

jms

[fullcirclejujitsu]

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Mestre Baurti has over 30 years in the game. He has students with over 20 years playing. And by playing I do mean playing. Adigun Sipho has been a fixture in the capoeira community in the Bay Area. It predates almost every Capoeira group in the United States. Adigun Sipho is known for action and activism. Not slandering other groups or Mestres behind the scenes.

Alesandro "Asanté" Ashanti

[fullcirclejujitsu]

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During this time Mestre Baruti also began working with Mestre Themba as a colleague. During one of Mestre Moraes's visits he gave Mestre Baruti the blessing to teach Capoeira Angola. It should be noted that Mestre Baruti never joined GCAP or was affiliated with Mestre Themba's group. However he has been known and recognized as a Capoeira Angola instructor for the past two decades AND the first to teach Capoeira Angola in the City of San Francisco.

[fullcirclejujitsu]

Mestre Baruti was one of the 1st 5 students of Mestre Acrodeon when he began teaching in the Bay Area (mid to late 70s). Later in Regional he was the first student of Mestre Perguica and Mestre Beicola. He was the first person to teach children capoeira in the USA. With the above groups he traveled to Brazil 5 times. It was here that he was first exposed to Angola through Mestre Moraes. Mestre Baruti hosted Moraes on several occasions to teach his group Angola. More to come.

[fullcirclejujitsu]

Fascinating how things get around in the capoeira community.

"I just remember hearing something from somebody who heard from somebody who heard from somebody else about Mestre Baruti saying something about being the only person in the US worthy of being called an angoleiro, even mentioning Themba, Cobrinha, & others with contempt."

Talk about hearsay! If you know Terry, and I've been close with him for over 18 years now, you would know these words would never leave his mouth.

[jmsatty]

Brother Neterkeht...

As i stated 10 months ago at the very beginning of the comments, i am having tech problems in posting the entire game. Those problems have yet to be solved. Of course, if you have a digital 8 camera or player you could let me use, the video will be up fast, quick and in a hurry!

Peace

jms

[neterkeht1]

Where is the rest of this joga? Why edit out some of the best parts?There is so much more to see, brotha chicago played a beautiful game, im sure people would love to see the rest of it.

[RU79]

Its interesting how Mestre Terry Baruti is well respected and known in the Bay area capoeira community. Invited by well known mestres(Mestre Beciola,Mestre Preguica,Mestre Cafu,Mestre Uburu,Mestre Halil,Mestre Marcelo among others over the years) to participate in different rodas and batizados yet people still have questions. We are alive and well in the capoeira community, we talk, and play in the roda de capoeira.

[heehawhippo]

It's not meant in disrespect. It's just those of us not from that community trying to figure out what's what before we enter that area. The mestres you mentioned are all regional mestres if I'm not mistaken. I have much respect for them as they have earned it. It's simply a matter of lineage. This is after all an African art where lineage is very important. We are simply trying to understand it through the way we learned it.

[RU79]

bumblefreak, this information will give you better insight.

[bumblefreak]

Okay, thanks. It helps to have a point of reference. There's a lot of hearsay and gossip within the Capoeira community, so it's nice to hear from somebody who's actually connected to the mestre/group that's being talked about. I just remember hearing something from somebody who heard from somebody who heard from somebody else about Mestre Baruti saying something about being the only person in the US worthy of being called an angoleiro, even mentioning Themba, Cobrinha, & others with contempt.

[neterkeht1]

Mestre Baruti has a unique system. Mestre Baruti was an accomplished martial artist before he started training capoeira. He has been able blend his knowledge of martial art into a unique style of capoeira angola. All capoeira has a beauty, and component which is primarily about cunning skill, trickery, and dance. Mestre Terry has the utmost respect and reverence for these principals. However If you can not us your art to defend yourself on the street then it is not a martial art.

[RU79]

Mestre Terry Baruti will be hosting a a Roda at the San Francisco Carnival on Sunday May 25,2008 from 1:30pm - 3:00pm with his students. You can ask him personally your questions. Baruti has taught at risk youth throughout the African American community in San francisco for over 20 years. He is well respected in our communities which most cannot teach in even if they had the desire. You sound a bit disrespectful but I will assume its your ignorance an as you stated.

[jmsatty]

Please forward Mestre Terry's contact info to me. I really would like to know the comrades name in this video clip so that i may give credit where it is due. Also give him greetings from CACLA.

[abbagato]

Meu Mestre Cobra Mansa also showed how the chamada can be bought from the original caller of the chamada. We also know that when we call the chamada we protect ourselves from being rasteria or worse so I agree with jmsatty that if it fits within the context of the game it is ok. This is capoeira where nothing is as it seems. Be careful!

[jigglestumps]

Nice video, I was wondering if you could post the lyrics to the first song. I just about got the Coro:

O ia ia, o senhora da me chama?????

Is that right? And if so what's the rest...

Thanks.

I love the fact that everyone's talking about the "rules of the Chamada". That's a questionable statement in itself.

[jmsatty]

It would be helpful if Please, Daniel or someone else from FICA would give up the lyrics here. This may (or may not) be close:

O iaiá, o senhor mandou chamar

- O senhor mandou chamar, o iaiá, o senhor mandou chamar, o iaiá

- O senhor mandou chamar, o iaiá, diga a ele que eu vou já, iaiá

jms

[jigglestumps]

Thanks for that, that's great. I agree I think they should let us know. haha... Maybe it's one of those well kept secrets.

The reply has something else to on the first one. Sounds like it has Quanto, eu and seu in it. It sounds like the second one has idalina in it too.

[jmsatty]

If the caller of the chamada leaves himself open to attack, he cannot expect the person responding to let the opportunity pass. The mestre of the jogador who fell (Mestre Terry of Adigun Sipho) is on the bataria playing viola and he laughed along with everyone else. They are both experienced capoeiras who know how to spice up a game without unnecessary violence or excessive pride.

[bumblefreak]

Mestre Terry? Who was his mestre? I'm not familiar with him, but this is simply my ignorance.

[jmsatty]

If Mestre Terry or his students would like to speak on this, it would be appreciated. I have heard him say he is a "renegade," has trained with more than one mestre and does not claim one mestre as his own. I have seen him teach and his curriculum seems very eclectic with an emphasis on capoeira as a fight. He and his students from Adigun Sipho visited CACLA a few years back and the schools had a roda after class. Our two schools have very different styles of play.

[bumblefreak]

Curious as he calls himself a mestre of capoeira angola, yet there's almost no reference to his association with any capoeira angola mestre anywhere that I could find. Tradition and lineage are very important to pretty much every capoeira angoleiro I've ever met. Strange. Does anybody else call him mestre besides himself?

[jmsatty]

Good question. Would be nice to hear from someone who can anwer this questions.

[malandr0bem]

I will call him and ask him peronally if you'd like. I just happened to be researching the group right now, which led me to this video! I'll contact you with an answer soon! Axe'

[bumblefreak]

thanks so much. I may be in the LA area in a few months, so this would help to know. muito obrigado.

[jmsatty]

Don't forget to stop through CACLA. Also, the Capoeira Angola Conference is first weekend of October as usual. Save the date!

[aguiladplata]

¿¿Do you realize the kind of stuff you´re making a fuss about? how snobish. If M. Terry is in the roda and playing an instrument that means he has been accepted by the other mestres who are present. What else do you need? his pedegree???

[heehawhippo]

It's not snobbery. Capoeira is learned from word of mouth and from mestre to student. Since it's learned this way, it's very important to trace back the source of our knowledge. Because of its African heritage, lineage is very important. Perhaps M. Terry is a mestre, but it's just odd to not know his roots, especially as a student of his... we're just trying to understand it is all. Every mestre/contra-mestre of capoeira angola I've ever trained with can/will tell you their roots.

[aguiladplata]

well, yes, i have met some myself; M. Curio, M. Jogo de dentro, M. Jurandir, M. Cabello (i invited him to give a workshop in march, and i learned a lot from him), and some others. I just think that unless you´re yourself a mestre, you have nothing to do worring about M. Terry ancenstry if the other mestres in the roda have accepted him. You don´t sound just curious, you sound a little inquisitive.

[aguiladplata]

Not to mention how many crappy capoeristas claim ancestries that are very doubtful. Sometimes people who have worked for years with a Mestre don´t talk about it at all, and people who just belong by name to a school, or have studied for short periods of time with a big name boast about being disciples of a famous mestre.

[jmsatty]

Would you also get the name of his student playing Chicago. Would be appreciated.

[neterkeht1]

Mestre Terry Baruti is walking history and a should be regarded as a pioneer in the bay area. Mestre Baruti began is training in capoeira in 1976. For the last 32 years he has practiced and honed his skills. This puts him squarely at the very root and or birth of capoeira here in the bay area, as he was with the first group under Mestre Acordeon. This group included some of he areas most well respected practitioners today, including the likes of Mesre Themba.

[RU79]

We straight outta Hunters Point dealing with the pain and suffering of our Black community. We aint got time to make speeches but read the the words above it will give you better insight of our Mestre.

[bumblefreak]

I heard that the words grew a little uglier when Mestres Baruti and Cobrinha were in some sort of physical altercation in a roda. However, this is simply hearsay that I heard along the grapevine.

[RU79]

I was there as a youth and witnessed the so called "physical altercation" in Oakland around 1998. Believe me that was minor. Cobrinha and Baruti would only have the answer to what was said. In regards to you trying to connect my teacher to that statement about other mestres is complete nonsense..

[heehawhippo]

as I said, it was just hearsay. Just more gossip along the grapevine. So mestre Baruti originally learned from Mestre Acordeon? Who has he studied under since?

[aguiladplata]

If it´s hearsay, don´t even bother to spread it -even if you have no ill intentions-. There is too much of that in capoeira.

[RU79]

We know there are issues among angolerios and political disunity. We are not apart of it dont waste our energy as I stated before. We are into the deeper work in our Black community we connect with those like spirits and minds.

[Wrongemboyo]

That's the beauty of the chamada! For another example please search for a game by mestres Cobra Mansa and Braga game, where Cobra Mansa (nearly) trips Braga in a similar chamada

[jmsatty]

Chamadas in a roda of Capoeira Angola can be very tricky. It is not simply a time of rest nor a meaningless ritual as is believed by some. Calling or answering a chamada is not a time to let your attention drift. A chamada may end with a rasteira (sweep), a cabeçada (headbutt), balão (throw) or some other surprise.

[bumblefreak]

jmsatty is correct here in that the chamada is not a time to relax. Although the chamada usually does end with the person calling it in the prescribed manner, it can end any time if either individual is not paying attention. Many times, the chamada is a way for the person calling it to test the other person's attention and knowledge of Capoeira, and vice versa.

[brfindla]

Nice Game.. nice video.. I really like how the quality of capoeira videos is going up alot.

[jmsatty]

The full game will be posted when tech problems are solved. Hard to tell the quality of a capoeira game or a capoeirista with 30 second pieces of video.

[RU79]

Could you post all of the adigin sipho group jogos I am interested in this bay area group style!!

[jmsatty]

If the games are good, i may post them. Stay tuned.

[RU79]

i can respect that. peace