Just one point, that "virtual machine" at the end isn't one, it's RDP which just basically displays the screen from a (probably more powerful) Windows machine. It's rather misleading to claim that it can run Windows that well in a VM. Other than that, great!
Hi Thanks for the comment, however I do try to make it clear that I am running remote desktop on Aros and connecting to a VM on another machine. To be clear, we do not have Virtual Machine technology in Aros yet, and the Atom processor with VM is rubbish, I have tried it on Windows on an Atom.
The point was that you can have a Silent connection to a fast machine in another room. I intend building on this soon, kind of Siamese System in reverse.
The problem is, we are not Microsoft or Apple and unless somebody can write the drivers that FULLY support the ION then it cannot be used. I was the first to try and get ION supported but for now it is not possible. Look just get an NVidia supported system with high speed processor and you can use Aros for 1080p. My IMICA Pro supports 1080p, just not the Atom system.
This is exactly why and what I wrote about it. So why save 50 bucks for a machine to dedicately NOT be able to play FullHD if you can have it for just some more money? Those who rather do not want to play FullHD or need to have an 8-10W machine instead of a 21-27W machine are really rare and ION-less computers that are capable to play FullHD cost a lot more and need a lot more wattage. AROS should not be forced to degenerate a netbook-only system.
Part 2) Atom alone cannot play this but e.g. ION or other chips around the Atom can do so. That would be a standard home work/play scenario. Will this work flawlessly?
I take your point but the catch is the cost of the ION system, atom boards around £50-60 and the ION boards around £100-120. Plus there are no ION netbooks. Also the Atoms usually have the same ICH7 audio and network systems. I did buy an ION buy there were no drivers coming for it. This can play upto 1280x720 and more without problem but the Artom is not powerful enough to decode 1920x1080p, something that the 16 GPU cores take care of in ION.
This is exactly why and what I wrote about it. So why save 50 bucks for a machine to dedicately NOT be able to play FullHD if you can have it for just some more money? Those who rather do not want to play FullHD or need to have an 8-10W machine instead of a 21-27W machine are really rare and ION-less computers that are capable to play FullHD cost a lot more and need a lot more wattage. AROS should not be forced to degenerate a netbook-only system.
You miss the point, this is a base reference system to build on. And to be fair, who cares about 1920x1080p when i cannot run a Blue Ray device on it because of the protection placed by Sony and other. This is the first step on the road, and by all means build the Pro version that can decode 1080p videos :-)
and of course the ION cannot be used in a silent fan less system. I was going to push for it but it was not practical as i would never have got drivers written. feel free to pay for them yourself though :-)
Part 1) That's really great work that you and all the developers put inside AROS. But to show three small videos at the same time isn't much of a realistic scenario. Who would watch three small videos at the same time as long as AROS has no support for multi-monitors to send the streams to different rooms? It would make more sense to see how it can compete with other platforms by playing FullHD videos at 1080i or 1080p. that's a today's scenario.
You got to understand that the three videos was because he wanted to show the performance of the video driver. I'm sure you'll see 1080p videos soon too..
This looks great to me, i have been trying the aros live cd on my computers an old ibm t21 laptop about 10 years old my asus eeepc 900mhz celeron netbook and my desktop pc all seem to work well but i have no sound i know the desktop will not as it has a creative xifi card ..
@clusterukdevelopment apologies you did make it reasonably clear, seems I thought it was a good idea to research this thing drunk haha.
Love the way this can be vesa mounted. Very tempted on one if I have any money left over after holiday next week!
lakesguzzler 1 year ago
Loving this, very tempted to grab one.
Just one point, that "virtual machine" at the end isn't one, it's RDP which just basically displays the screen from a (probably more powerful) Windows machine. It's rather misleading to claim that it can run Windows that well in a VM. Other than that, great!
lakesguzzler 1 year ago
@lakesguzzler
Hi Thanks for the comment, however I do try to make it clear that I am running remote desktop on Aros and connecting to a VM on another machine. To be clear, we do not have Virtual Machine technology in Aros yet, and the Atom processor with VM is rubbish, I have tried it on Windows on an Atom.
The point was that you can have a Silent connection to a fast machine in another room. I intend building on this soon, kind of Siamese System in reverse.
Thanks
clusterukdevelopment 1 year ago
@clusterukdevelopment
> And to be fair, who cares about 1920x1080p when i cannot run a Blue Ray device on it because of the protection placed by Sony and other.
FreeTV, PayTV, download websites ... there are a lot of freely available videos with or without payment and all without the need of a BluRay player.
flossenzosse 1 year ago
@flossenzosse
The problem is, we are not Microsoft or Apple and unless somebody can write the drivers that FULLY support the ION then it cannot be used. I was the first to try and get ION supported but for now it is not possible. Look just get an NVidia supported system with high speed processor and you can use Aros for 1080p. My IMICA Pro supports 1080p, just not the Atom system.
clusterukdevelopment 1 year ago
@clusterukdevelopment
Scween dwiver! Nice lisp there mate!
Only kidding. Greetings and best of luck from the natami project! (we need aros one way or another)
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
Any idea when we're going to see the multicore support on AROS?
Jumpseri 1 year ago
@Jumpseri
Patience
clusterukdevelopment 1 year ago
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@clusterukdevelopment
This is exactly why and what I wrote about it. So why save 50 bucks for a machine to dedicately NOT be able to play FullHD if you can have it for just some more money? Those who rather do not want to play FullHD or need to have an 8-10W machine instead of a 21-27W machine are really rare and ION-less computers that are capable to play FullHD cost a lot more and need a lot more wattage. AROS should not be forced to degenerate a netbook-only system.
flossenzosse 1 year ago
Part 2) Atom alone cannot play this but e.g. ION or other chips around the Atom can do so. That would be a standard home work/play scenario. Will this work flawlessly?
flossenzosse 1 year ago
@flossenzosse
I take your point but the catch is the cost of the ION system, atom boards around £50-60 and the ION boards around £100-120. Plus there are no ION netbooks. Also the Atoms usually have the same ICH7 audio and network systems. I did buy an ION buy there were no drivers coming for it. This can play upto 1280x720 and more without problem but the Artom is not powerful enough to decode 1920x1080p, something that the 16 GPU cores take care of in ION.
clusterukdevelopment 1 year ago
@clusterukdevelopment
This is exactly why and what I wrote about it. So why save 50 bucks for a machine to dedicately NOT be able to play FullHD if you can have it for just some more money? Those who rather do not want to play FullHD or need to have an 8-10W machine instead of a 21-27W machine are really rare and ION-less computers that are capable to play FullHD cost a lot more and need a lot more wattage. AROS should not be forced to degenerate a netbook-only system.
flossenzosse 1 year ago
@flossenzosse
You miss the point, this is a base reference system to build on. And to be fair, who cares about 1920x1080p when i cannot run a Blue Ray device on it because of the protection placed by Sony and other. This is the first step on the road, and by all means build the Pro version that can decode 1080p videos :-)
clusterukdevelopment 1 year ago
@flossenzosse
and of course the ION cannot be used in a silent fan less system. I was going to push for it but it was not practical as i would never have got drivers written. feel free to pay for them yourself though :-)
clusterukdevelopment 1 year ago
Part 1) That's really great work that you and all the developers put inside AROS. But to show three small videos at the same time isn't much of a realistic scenario. Who would watch three small videos at the same time as long as AROS has no support for multi-monitors to send the streams to different rooms? It would make more sense to see how it can compete with other platforms by playing FullHD videos at 1080i or 1080p. that's a today's scenario.
flossenzosse 1 year ago
@flossenzosse
You got to understand that the three videos was because he wanted to show the performance of the video driver. I'm sure you'll see 1080p videos soon too..
amy1200 1 year ago
This looks great to me, i have been trying the aros live cd on my computers an old ibm t21 laptop about 10 years old my asus eeepc 900mhz celeron netbook and my desktop pc all seem to work well but i have no sound i know the desktop will not as it has a creative xifi card ..
paulb4uk 1 year ago
Wooooooooo! - Very powerful, awesome! =0)
Ant
oobumblebeeoo 1 year ago