i really like the new formotion technology, I think Adidas is on to something greater than Nike here, formotion is like Jordan's articulated propulsion technology and independent podular suspension all in one, except this is way better. I feel that if Adidas started using sprint skin on their basketball shoes they would be as light if not lighter than Nike's hyper shoe line, making them way better because flywire is not that great
This is what the Bulls need. They can't rest on the past. The Lakers and Celtics have multiple legends. If Chicago wants to match they need others besides the 90's greats. Imagine Jordan and Rose in the backcourt.....just for fun that would be insane. Of course I'm not sure we would even know who Rose is. Jordan was just that dominant.
i know wat size is suitably for me i wear a size 11.5 shoes. if somebody knows what size i can wear it will help, because this one problem has stopped me from getting this product
Just found out Scottie pippen is and has been teaching Ronnie brewer and will be working with him on his game all summer.. wow.. Chi-town is in the building!
It's hard for Derrick Rose to win a champioship right now because Kobe Dwight LeBron Wade and Bosh have the spotlight but in a few years it will be his turn.
@walkingfridge81 yo everybody please stop hatin on derrick rose's lack of social skills man, like who cares if he doesn't talk much only his friends should worry bout that
Derrick rose is a beast! All the haters out there go watch something else lames. If u didnt think his shit was raw u wouldnt even be searching for him. Enough said.
@itube343 lol whatever you say bro. there are rookies better than him at PG. tyreke evans for sure, and you could make a case for jennings, collison, and curry. personally, id rank him #2 on that list, but he also has another year of development. overall, i would call deron williams the number 1 pg in the nba at the moment. point blank period. (doesnt that sound annoying?)
@wiltondeportes dude derrick rose never had a sophmore slump and tyreke evans he plays for the weak kings he dosent make anyone better since D-Rose got to the bulls hes made Joakim Noah better luol deng evreyones numbers have gone up now im not saying derron williams isnt the best he used 2 b my fav b4 drose but if derrick had the type of talent hte jazz has he would b better than derron williams
@itube343 PLEASE! Tyreke is the best in the NBA at getting to the rim already (even better than LeBron). He is only the 4th player in league history to average 20-5-5 in his rookie year joining lebron, mj, and oscar robertson. saying that doesnt do him justice though as he is averaged 19.4-6.9-7.5 in march. he can also be one the best on ball defenders in the league already when he wants to. his one weakness is his shooting, but that is the easiest to fix. derrick rose has it too anyways!
@itube343 explain to me how derrick rose makes his teammates better more than tyreke if he cant get to the rim as frequently as him, doesnt have as many assists as him, doesnt rebound as well, and doesnt get even HALF the steals he does. this is all not even mentioning the fact that derrick rose has 1 year of experience and tyreke has none
@wiltondeportes he makes them better bcuz if u watch the bulls u will see he passes then cuts to the basket and everyone watchs him and then hello deng or hinrich r open all day he doesnt get ass. bcuz he sets the play up for another pass he averages 6 ass. a game with around 22 pts hes a beast top 5 PG in the game easy dunks finshes passes shoots if he had a three shot he would be in the run for MVP thats y he is better then evens any day
@briangrindhard no the way he played in the playoffs against cavs, i have to say he is the best scoring point guard as of right now. i want to sim him getting his team mates more involved now that he has boozer. if he can average 20 ppg 4 rpg 10 apg , he will be the best in the league for sure. and he represents a star cause when he is needed to, you can clearly see him stepping up his game. deron williams,has less agressiveness in him.
@briangrindhard from what ive seen from middle of last season till now....Rose Jumper is Near Automatic....and his 3pt Range got Better recently after seeing those USA Games....his Defense improved also.....the kid has Great Work Ethic.
@BearyChi near automatic? Lol his jumper is the weakest part of his fucking game retard. His fucking coach wanted him to completely change his shot form. Why the fuck would you say that? Goes to show someone can watch a fucking sport and still have no clue Wtf?!!?
@st3nkobe Whoa...what i meant was His Mid-range is near automatic(too Soon to put that tho) because his Jumper did improve.i watched every Bulls game last Season and Rose did improve and was one of the Best Mid-range shooters in the NBA last season.
@st3nkobe just check the stats, he was top 3 in the league in mid-range field goal percentage, i think that would make him pretty good from mid-range don't you?
plz help me im tryin to choose between the cut creators or the commanders i tried on both in the store and still cant pick didnt realy have time to think though im 6 ft 0 but my style is small forward and i have wide feet plz help me choose b4 sale ends
Hey man. If you are a quick guy who wants to cross guys up and sprint go for the ts cut creators but if you are a small foward like you said go for the commanders. They are ment for cusioning impact from rebounds and also very wide.
Why does the ankle wrap have shoelaces? like wtf?! how does it come off when its a wrap? and if its because of fashion, its inside of the shoe! WTF?! which nba player wants to feel more uncomfortable on the court just for fashion?
he has a different kind of ankle wrap..in all actuality those ankle wraps are better..you can adjust it to your liking instead of one size fits all..and how is it fashion when an ankle brake is worn inside of the sneaker..you wouldnt see it
He is one class guy on and off the court. You can tell he is still staying humble and honest despite all the people putting him in the spotlight and trying to make money off him, like this commercial for example.
@unsunghero18 yea u must be smoking that new crack. rose been tearing up the league lately. just named east player of the week infact. take that HATER!
@SportsJock24 How can you not even mention Rondo, he is at least top 3 right now at this point in the season with KG and PP having limited playing time in the recent weeks he's been playing 40+ minutes a game pretty much carrying the team and they still have one of the best records in the league.
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hwuman 1 year ago
Nice.....Yes!
freshprincehybrid 1 year ago
Hey, when you're the best Point Guard in the Eastern Conference, you don't need to speak that much. Your game talks for you...
TheSurefireGamer 1 year ago
this is bad acting
lal123ish 1 year ago
i really like the new formotion technology, I think Adidas is on to something greater than Nike here, formotion is like Jordan's articulated propulsion technology and independent podular suspension all in one, except this is way better. I feel that if Adidas started using sprint skin on their basketball shoes they would be as light if not lighter than Nike's hyper shoe line, making them way better because flywire is not that great
TheGumbo13 1 year ago
what are the techfits designed to do? they have them for arm bands and calve bands? do they just soak up the sweat or what... i might get one...
tech2kn0w 1 year ago
@tech2kn0w the shoes probably are lighter and easier to move around in, but everything else is probably just trash meant to make money
RazaIsCool 1 year ago
LMFAOOOOOOOOO "yes.."
naruxhinatreyy 1 year ago
the funny thing is after watching this people might actually think it works and go out and buy it.
ra611594 1 year ago
what is newer these ones or the ts supernaturals???
mrputanginamo1 1 year ago
anyone know the name of the shoe?
rpgknight23 1 year ago
@rpgknight23 they say the name in the video
datpoint 1 year ago
@rpgknight23 TS Cut Creator says the description :)
jantjecool 1 year ago
@novalaser LOL.
ningenmukotsu 1 year ago
i could not stop laughing when i heard him say "yesssss." oscar worthy performance mr. rose.
CasetronEscobar 1 year ago
lmao derrick roses nickname is Poohdini? thats terrible haha
springwaterization 1 year ago
Whats the song called or beat?
ningenmukotsu 1 year ago
@ningenmukotsu its called derrick rose n****a
novalaser 1 year ago
What is the song???????????????
akamoney1 1 year ago
what the name of this beat??
psk10000 1 year ago
This is what the Bulls need. They can't rest on the past. The Lakers and Celtics have multiple legends. If Chicago wants to match they need others besides the 90's greats. Imagine Jordan and Rose in the backcourt.....just for fun that would be insane. Of course I'm not sure we would even know who Rose is. Jordan was just that dominant.
larrybird3323 1 year ago
i honestly think addidas is just as good as nike. its just that nike is more popular cause of the celebrities and athletes that support it.
northcarolinaname 1 year ago
LOL all he says is "YESHHHHH"
BrysonSao101 1 year ago
i love the way he says "YES", lol
TheJakNate 1 year ago
best point gaurd in the league....hands down!!!!
marshman4lyfe 1 year ago
@marshman4lyfe naw i say he 3rd cp3 dwills then rose
sm3dsean 1 year ago
@idiots4444 thank you man
Hotsauce3successor 1 year ago
HisCoach says he's gonna get faster. WAIT......THATS POSSIBLE?!?!
laorjlse 1 year ago
Derrick Rose is sexxi.
luv4michaeljackson90 1 year ago
i know wat size is suitably for me i wear a size 11.5 shoes. if somebody knows what size i can wear it will help, because this one problem has stopped me from getting this product
Hotsauce3successor 1 year ago
@Hotsauce3successor wtf are you talking about? lol if it fits it fits
mhernandez94 1 year ago
he need to go to team jordan
OMGiTzBEaZZY 1 year ago
Why can't i find these shoes?
ZAHighland 1 year ago
@ZAHighland Because they're old. There are much more improved shoes out now.
drose1mvp 1 year ago
Derrick Rose should be on Street Fighter IV too many hadoukens 4 the NBA
belingafred 1 year ago
i got this shoes they feel great i am 6"2
fereyland92 1 year ago
@fereyland92 bitch nobody cares
getfresh305 1 year ago
Just found out Scottie pippen is and has been teaching Ronnie brewer and will be working with him on his game all summer.. wow.. Chi-town is in the building!
XplosiveRaiderwins 1 year ago
@XplosiveRaiderwins Whoa...Seriously?
BearyChi 1 year ago
I love this guy, he's the shit!
Fantommenace23 1 year ago
derrick rose said 2 words in this video. Niceee, yessss
dannywuyue 1 year ago 8
It's hard for Derrick Rose to win a champioship right now because Kobe Dwight LeBron Wade and Bosh have the spotlight but in a few years it will be his turn.
ComicGuy44 1 year ago
i swear i am this guy top 2 bottom body frame nd personality
TheMUGENguru1995 1 year ago
OMG. I've been following his career since Memphis and I just found out HE CAN TALK.
chiefs816kc 1 year ago
now if we could just get this boy some social skills...
walkingfridge81 1 year ago 31
@walkingfridge81 yo everybody please stop hatin on derrick rose's lack of social skills man, like who cares if he doesn't talk much only his friends should worry bout that
novalaser 1 year ago 2
My friend looks like him YESSSSSSS MARKKKK!!!!
Acjjr123 1 year ago
@Acjjr123 Luckyyy
Colours345 1 year ago
those shoes n ankle brace wer raw!
09tdubbs 1 year ago
lol can someone do a remix with this music?
ngolimit2 1 year ago
"yessss!" haha, why's he so fired up about an ankle brace??
ThatsThaDude 1 year ago
D-Rose is so cute!!!And I love that he's a man of few words, which makes him mysterious!
blksung 1 year ago
NICE!!!
dudewat212 1 year ago
<3 <3 <3 derrick rose <3 <3 <3
iwonder66 1 year ago
he has a sexy skin tone :)
tertra114 1 year ago
derrick rose is going to be great hands down he is already a great player
BreMass85 1 year ago
I would love to be in that room!
swishbucket98 1 year ago
He said "Nice" and that "Yessssss" only two words lmao
sm3dsean 1 year ago
@itube343 derrick rose will not be the ebst pg in 10 to 15 years jason kidd and steve nash way better rise not even close
blazeroks 1 year ago
@blazeroks in 10-15 years they will be retired! so uh yea he will
bball502zzz 1 year ago
This is Cheesy!! haha
rhinoplaya66 1 year ago
i laughed when i heard his flat "yes" haha
olhilt 1 year ago
FUCK brandon jennings. R-O-S-E for life
jtin28 1 year ago 3
Omg!!!so COOL
syrono 1 year ago
Derrick rose is a beast! All the haters out there go watch something else lames. If u didnt think his shit was raw u wouldnt even be searching for him. Enough said.
ACtruth1 1 year ago
wit til my nigga JOHN WALL get 2 d league
TheKingIsOnTop 1 year ago
@TheKingIsOnTop And get fucked up By D.Rose yeah imma watch lol
MrKPhantom 1 year ago
@MrKPhantom John Wall will bust dat nigga ass
TheKingIsOnTop 1 year ago
if you play basketball you would know everyone wheres socks with adidas slippers
BasketballKr3w 1 year ago 2
@BasketballKr3w exactly. that's what im saying but i guess we cant expect everyone to know or even understand that.
AlterBreaker 1 year ago
"Yes" lol
Bossrah 1 year ago
Am I the only one that noticed that he ties his laces to his shoes and then the next scene he is wearing sandles
Bossrah 1 year ago 2
@Bossrah lol i just realized that too.
justlovely72 1 year ago
shoe*
ILOVEVAIO150 1 year ago
man i dont even like this show, but waching this commercial makes me want one.. i guess thats how they make money lol
ILOVEVAIO150 1 year ago
whats the beat?
niziniak91 1 year ago 2
what's the beat called?
niziniak91 1 year ago
derrick rose is soo monotone and boring....regardless you know its true
Ptrick003 1 year ago
D.Rose is the fastest pg in NBA now. =)
Jadziul499 1 year ago
YESSSS!!!!
MrFladen 1 year ago
tha best
jrockdaman2 1 year ago
I see my kicks in the back... XD
Devedza 1 year ago
lmfao 0:50 yes
PeaceForSteeze23 1 year ago
i wish i had my own room like this
ericsantillana 1 year ago
it says no. 1 point guard xD when he scans his hand thats so true
yt2catv 1 year ago
he is way too hot <3
iwonder66 1 year ago
nice and yes are my favorite words
vhans5219 1 year ago
LMAO!!!! "Yes.." A man of few words
MrCombine 1 year ago 31
@MrCombine That's crazy
iamdelta 1 year ago
@MrCombine He is rather quiet. but he's cool that way :D
keverinkarama 1 year ago
Dope!
maamaae 1 year ago
them Negros shoping nice rose that nigga
jrockdaman2 1 year ago
he sound like his gone fuk the shoes
jrockdaman2 1 year ago
simply too quick.
iMagineThis1 1 year ago
oh yes, he sounds horny hahha
davetherain 1 year ago 2
Whats da name of dis beat
Truvillion222 1 year ago
"Nice" and "Yes" :D
Machno14 1 year ago
How much faster can Derrick Rose get than he already is?
CanadianVVarrior 1 year ago 6
Derrick Rose is The BOMB!! I Love him and his ways lol
mschaiga 1 year ago
0:48 "YES..."
theloveinus 1 year ago
lmao socks with the adidas slippers... thats how u can tell he's rly from chicago
probablychris 1 year ago 51
yea mangg im from chitown n every 1 i kno has those slippers!
DAWINDYCITY1 1 year ago
@probablychris
Everyone does it where im from except with nikes
cantouchme123 1 year ago
Yep We Do it ALL the Time...Chi-Town people have more Adidas Slips than Nike Slips.
BearyChi 1 year ago
@probablychris if u look at dwights or beasleys commercial they wear the same slippers...
tiktakxd 1 year ago
@probablychris we wear socks wit Adidas slippers in NY too...its not a Chicago thing....Its universal if you didnt know...
yungjesse 1 year ago
i didnt know he had a tatoo on his hand
derrickrose47 1 year ago
by any chance, are you a derrick rose fan
JUMPMAN4693 1 year ago
ya im a big fan of him
derrickrose47 1 year ago
that is one monster ankle brace
thedude6123 1 year ago
check out my rap page!!!! hoop like d rose and rap like wayne or luda no lie
Woodakid23 1 year ago
i luv the way he says ''yes''
esv07 1 year ago 5
you sound like an obsessive groupie
arozdeleche 1 year ago
LOL
darkshadow515 1 year ago
Derrick Rose is and will be for the next 10 to 15 years to come THE BEST POINT GUARD in the NBA Point Blank Period.
itube343 1 year ago 82
lets hope soo. I can't say I didnt hear that going around when that fag chris puaul came out the closet
zacatetas 1 year ago
@itube343 lol whatever you say bro. there are rookies better than him at PG. tyreke evans for sure, and you could make a case for jennings, collison, and curry. personally, id rank him #2 on that list, but he also has another year of development. overall, i would call deron williams the number 1 pg in the nba at the moment. point blank period. (doesnt that sound annoying?)
wiltondeportes 1 year ago
@wiltondeportes dude derrick rose never had a sophmore slump and tyreke evans he plays for the weak kings he dosent make anyone better since D-Rose got to the bulls hes made Joakim Noah better luol deng evreyones numbers have gone up now im not saying derron williams isnt the best he used 2 b my fav b4 drose but if derrick had the type of talent hte jazz has he would b better than derron williams
itube343 1 year ago
@itube343 PLEASE! Tyreke is the best in the NBA at getting to the rim already (even better than LeBron). He is only the 4th player in league history to average 20-5-5 in his rookie year joining lebron, mj, and oscar robertson. saying that doesnt do him justice though as he is averaged 19.4-6.9-7.5 in march. he can also be one the best on ball defenders in the league already when he wants to. his one weakness is his shooting, but that is the easiest to fix. derrick rose has it too anyways!
wiltondeportes 1 year ago
@itube343 explain to me how derrick rose makes his teammates better more than tyreke if he cant get to the rim as frequently as him, doesnt have as many assists as him, doesnt rebound as well, and doesnt get even HALF the steals he does. this is all not even mentioning the fact that derrick rose has 1 year of experience and tyreke has none
wiltondeportes 1 year ago
@wiltondeportes he makes them better bcuz if u watch the bulls u will see he passes then cuts to the basket and everyone watchs him and then hello deng or hinrich r open all day he doesnt get ass. bcuz he sets the play up for another pass he averages 6 ass. a game with around 22 pts hes a beast top 5 PG in the game easy dunks finshes passes shoots if he had a three shot he would be in the run for MVP thats y he is better then evens any day
ADunn3423 1 year ago 3
@itube343 YOU know your basketball.
datboydeek2 1 year ago
@itube343 What about Rajon Rondo? John Wall?
ManyDiamonds 1 year ago
@itube343 Most athletic no doubt, best; he has a long way to go. 2 has already taken that title.
Ammaculate44 1 year ago
@itube343 Derrick Rose is very good and hes my favorite PG but i think Chris Paul has that spot bro.
jAYSAyHEy1 1 year ago
@itube343 derrick rose is great and im from memphis but until he developes a consistent jumper, he will be 2nd to deron williams
briangrindhard 1 year ago
@briangrindhard no the way he played in the playoffs against cavs, i have to say he is the best scoring point guard as of right now. i want to sim him getting his team mates more involved now that he has boozer. if he can average 20 ppg 4 rpg 10 apg , he will be the best in the league for sure. and he represents a star cause when he is needed to, you can clearly see him stepping up his game. deron williams,has less agressiveness in him.
northcarolinaname 1 year ago
@briangrindhard from what ive seen from middle of last season till now....Rose Jumper is Near Automatic....and his 3pt Range got Better recently after seeing those USA Games....his Defense improved also.....the kid has Great Work Ethic.
BearyChi 1 year ago
@BearyChi near automatic? Lol his jumper is the weakest part of his fucking game retard. His fucking coach wanted him to completely change his shot form. Why the fuck would you say that? Goes to show someone can watch a fucking sport and still have no clue Wtf?!!?
st3nkobe 1 year ago
@st3nkobe Whoa...what i meant was His Mid-range is near automatic(too Soon to put that tho) because his Jumper did improve.i watched every Bulls game last Season and Rose did improve and was one of the Best Mid-range shooters in the NBA last season.
BearyChi 1 year ago
@BearyChi I don't know what to say to that...
st3nkobe 1 year ago
@st3nkobe just check the stats, he was top 3 in the league in mid-range field goal percentage, i think that would make him pretty good from mid-range don't you?
wassup2091 1 year ago
@wassup2091
he cute though!! lmfao
ItsMrAoK 1 year ago
plz help me im tryin to choose between the cut creators or the commanders i tried on both in the store and still cant pick didnt realy have time to think though im 6 ft 0 but my style is small forward and i have wide feet plz help me choose b4 sale ends
thespicyman247 1 year ago
Hey man. If you are a quick guy who wants to cross guys up and sprint go for the ts cut creators but if you are a small foward like you said go for the commanders. They are ment for cusioning impact from rebounds and also very wide.
crapsack47 1 year ago
@thespicyman247 man only way to go is nike get the new lebron's there more than just a shoe
dodatthere 1 year ago
@dodatthere lol u crazie get tha lebrons im mad u had to say wat they said on the advertisment
jrockdaman2 1 year ago
rose is a beast, those kicks is ugly tho. i want his ts creator they baddd, especially with the speed wrap ankle braces! :)
skam3113 1 year ago 2
0:48 yess! pedro
LLdub63 1 year ago
no emotion hahahahahahahhaa
mtba4life 1 year ago
didi any1 else notice there was on 1 shoe in the case? lol :)
Kmaryd2 1 year ago 2
lol his actin might not b amazin, but he hot so its all good :)
Kmaryd2 1 year ago
0:48 PRICELESS
pwnzered 1 year ago
Lol "yesss" with no emotion
philisdead4 1 year ago 7
DROSE !!! I doubt he can get any faster though this guy can move !
ahsanabbaszaidi 1 year ago
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ahsanabbaszaidi 1 year ago
damn he got the coolest shit out all them other Negros.
Fo0dStamps 2 years ago
hahahaha "YESSS".......yeah......give D-Rose an Oscar.....look at the head nod when he notices the golden brief-case...HAHAHAHAHA
MistaFreeze17 2 years ago 4
LOL the head nod, like oh look what we have here.
Rookietop 2 years ago 8
kobe b could rape me all he wnts lol yummers!
maitlanr 2 years ago
give this man an oscar
Rookietop 2 years ago 9
Why does the ankle wrap have shoelaces? like wtf?! how does it come off when its a wrap? and if its because of fashion, its inside of the shoe! WTF?! which nba player wants to feel more uncomfortable on the court just for fashion?
FrostJeremin 2 years ago
@FrostJeremin
he has a different kind of ankle wrap..in all actuality those ankle wraps are better..you can adjust it to your liking instead of one size fits all..and how is it fashion when an ankle brake is worn inside of the sneaker..you wouldnt see it
Nowitixzi 2 years ago
lol YESSS
king08juni 2 years ago 3
Whats da name of dis beat. dis ish do hard
Truvillion222 2 years ago
no facial expression "YESS!"
PrimoKarim 2 years ago 7
LOL
Rookietop 2 years ago
NICE!
EASTSIDEBOY6 2 years ago 2
YES.!
LittleHarris32 2 years ago 4
He is one class guy on and off the court. You can tell he is still staying humble and honest despite all the people putting him in the spotlight and trying to make money off him, like this commercial for example.
jaranarm 2 years ago 3
yessssssssssss lol
bedclean 2 years ago
yesssssss
AirForcePhil 2 years ago
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derrick rose sucks..i can beat him one on one
Nemsomus 2 years ago
@Nemsomus i don't see you in the league
xlive247 2 years ago 2
1 on 1 means fuck all .
its a team sport
n yea i dont see u in the nba ?
kurtis2k9 2 years ago
@Nemsomus. I hope this is Kobe Bryant speaking on this account---otherwise shutup because Rose could try to lose and still beat you.
JZ2001JC 2 years ago
@JZ2001JC Kobe Bryant is my uncle.. friendo
Nemsomus 2 years ago
@Nemsomus. Cool.
JZ2001JC 2 years ago
Best PG next year !
Bulls gonna get Bosh and here comes a championship back to the bulls ! ! !
GOONxFACE 2 years ago
YEA COPPED THE SPEEDWRAPS
not the colorway i wanted (wht/wht) but doesn't matter as long as the ankles are safe
dimedropper1992 2 years ago
i love this dude
danamishio 2 years ago 6
all these combined look hottt. i managed to order all the stuff before it went mass out of stock.
and1andfat 2 years ago
he's sooooo cute.
serialthriller100 2 years ago 5
The only Chicago athlete who's not overpaid, over-hyped, or underachieving
TheCubsfan02 2 years ago 12
@TheCubsfan02 this is so true hahaha, lets hope the cubs do better with out milton bradley and rich hardern
10bullsfan 2 years ago
is this shoe good?
MoneyMayweather007 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
overrated
unsunghero18 2 years ago
@unsunghero18 yea u must be smoking that new crack. rose been tearing up the league lately. just named east player of the week infact. take that HATER!
tommybrown187 2 years ago 12
This has been flagged as spam show
my pg list:
1: Steve Nash
2: cp3
3: Deron Williams
4: Derrick Rose
5: Baron Davis
Great potential: Brandon Jennings, Tyreke Evans
SportsJock24 2 years ago
@SportsJock24 How can you not even mention Rondo, he is at least top 3 right now at this point in the season with KG and PP having limited playing time in the recent weeks he's been playing 40+ minutes a game pretty much carrying the team and they still have one of the best records in the league.
saur24 2 years ago
whats the name of the song
1arada23 2 years ago