Tafseer Song of Solomon 5:16 Mohammed in the Bible - Deedat's errors

[Texas75023]

Katrooosh - I went to hit APPROVE, but hit REMOVE accidentally.

@Texas75023

in the video

/watch?v=0YJ0E4P6PMU

what is your theory for the rabbi who pronounced Mohammad exactly as Arab do or Deedat did! 5:13

and what is your reaction in the video when the word translated as mohammad, muhamad exactly!!! 7:19

I responded more fully in a private message.

[Katrooosh]

you actually did nothing, in the video Deedat said Mohamadim you said Machmad, and what machmad sound like???? Machmad,,,,,,,,,,mahmad,,,,,,,­­, mohammad,,,,mehmet OR Achmad excatly how the Quran said it was!!!! Achmad is Ahmad.

Yet you say NO, Islam is a religion from a man from the dessert? did u know that Mohammad wasn't named before in the Arab land!

man you should really reconsider

again there should be rating or even a direct comment to provide the truth!

[Texas75023]

@Katrooosh If the word 'Mohammed' was not a NAME before it was given to Mohammed - then the claim the NAME of Mohammed appeared 600 years EARLIER in a text in a FOREIGN LANGUAGE where it was using an ADJECTIVE and NOT a name - it is ludicrous to claim such a word IS A NAME, of a man in the future.

The surrounding text DOES NOT SAY - 'And the name of a FUTURE PROPHET will be - Mohammed'. Sorry, my friend, but Islam's claim is childish nonsense. A DESPERATE attempt but nothing more.

[viktermore]

word from Song of Solomon 5:16 as Muhammad is also used in other verses. this is what it means

2 Chronicles 36:19- Muhammad destroyed by fire

1 Kings 20:6 >> Muhammad taken away from house

Hosea 9:6 >> Muhammad was buried.

Dear Muslims are those verse also prophecies about Muhammad?

[Texas75023]

@viktermore You are correct. The Hebrew word 'Mem-Chet-Mem-Dalet' or Machmawd, is used multiple times in the Bible. And the context of EVERY CASE proves it is not a prophetic mention of a PROPHET named MOHAMMED to come after MESSIAH.

Pray for those who call themself 'muslim', but are deceived to follow and submit to Mohammed only. Islam is a very clever web of lies, woven by Al-Makr, the father of Lies.

[jmw110]

hello

[Texas75023]

@jmw110 Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

I don't allow spam or false information under my video threads, my friend. So I have removed your earlier duplicated message.

If you can actually present any FACTUAL information regarding or attempting to challenge the content of this video, please feel free.

Best Regards,

[gamemanksa2009]

@Texas75023 uploader please see this and prove him wrong

/watch?v=TUek0aXdDMI&feature=r­elmfu

[Texas75023]

@gamemanksa2009 Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, the only Begotten Son of God.

Bart Ehrman is a well known 'apostate' from Christianity, my friend. And his claims and sweeping generalizations are already refuted over and over. When he makes statements, such as appearing to claim there are 100s of 1000s of errors in the Bible, his credibility is destroyed by the exaggeration. But Mohammedans, looking only to ATTACK God and His Word, hear 'there are 100,000 errors in the Bible'.

[Texas75023]

@gamemanksa2009 (2) You must understand that there are over 5,300 COMPLETE copies of manuscripts of the NEW Testament alone. More than 24,000 copies if you count all that are NOT complete and total, where portions have been destroyed. If EACH copy has ONLY 1 character dropped (and they DO NOT ALL drop the same charcter, my friend), that is 24,000 'errors'. But NONE that change the MESSAG.

In FACT, ON PURPOSE, I dropped 2 LETTERS in the last sentence, AND YOU STILL know the exact message.

[Texas75023]

@gamemanksa2009 (3) The ReALITY is that the manuscript evidence is irrefutably complete and faithful and PRESERVES God's Message. The fact we do not have a 'GOLDEN COPY' allegedly pen'd by the hand of GOD HIMSELF is not an issue for serious discussion.

The claims of Islam, however, are the kinds of fairy stories concocted by children to make their story bigger and bigger over time. Allah WROTE the WHOLE Quran first, GAVE it to Jibreel, who READ the book to Mohammed since he could not read.

[gamemanksa2009]

@Texas75023 my dear from ur comment i know nw that u dn't knw islam coz of the facts i'll tell u :

1) did u know that the quran didn;'t came as whole but as parts in duration of 23 years??

2) watch?v=BN0YbC0BJ8g&feature=ch­annel_video_title i cant say more than that in that vid a rabbi himself said that & he knw the Hebrew & have knowlage better than u & me & f i would listen 2 him f i where u

u c dear f u want to dabate there are some rules i will tell u in my next which is why islam always win

[Texas75023]

@gamemanksa2009 LOL! It DEPENDS on which FABLE you are discussing, my friend. SERIOUSLY, Islam TRIES to claim Isaiah 29:12 is a story about JIBREEL giving a BOOK, a WHOLE and completed BOOK to an 'unlearned man', MOHAMMED.

But we all KNOW Mohammed really just made up his 'revelation' over the 23 years, with PLENTY of time to sit, revise and edit previous ayat and sura. He even codified the CHANGE process, claiming Sura and Ayat COULD change with 'equal or better' revelations.

[gamemanksa2009]

@Texas75023 ou really don't know the quran don't you you see the proof that support my point is this : JIBREEL didn't give a whole book coz if you see the event in the propthis life he was having the vers of the quran depending on the event that the muslum nation was facing so if you think that the propht made that up you simply didn't read the quran coz quran if you truly want to understand it you have to know arabic + see what Lesley Hazleton said about the quran

/watch?v=O7yaDlZfqrc

[Texas75023]

@gamemanksa2009 You just ADMITTED a mouthful, my friend. There NEVER WAS a book written by Allah. Mohammed MADE UP his revelations as ANSWERS to whatever the SITUATIONAL NEED was. Depending on the 'need in his life' he conveniently CAME UP with a NEW revelation. And when his previous statements were insufficient, Mohammed CHANGED the message. This includes a 'Mualim' having ONLY 4 WIVES. When that was no longer convenient for HIM, Mhmd got a 'REVELEATION' that HE ALONE could have more.

[gamemanksa2009]

@Texas75023 the rules of any debates 4 any subjects is

u can't use your own source as a proof against the the other coz simply the other side will say he will not believe in it the proof should come from using the other side sources like 4 our case i can't use the quran against u in the debate coz u simply dn't believe it the same goes 2me so f u wnt u should bring something in the quran the proves ur point or dispose mine &that is why islam is always wining coz of this

[Texas75023]

@gamemanksa2009 The RULES only apply when they APPLY TO BOTH, my friend. LOL! And that is the general reason Mohammedism fails at every debate. You assume the Quran is true, and reject the TRUTH to your demise, my friend. And the Quran even mocks you in this - Sura 4.157 But THOSE WHO DIFFER meaning deny jesus was Crucified, follow ONLY a baseless conjecture (meaning Mohammed's teachings. Satan was ROFLHAO when that was 'revealed'.

[gamemanksa2009]

@Texas75023 oh dear you think this vers4.157is a discrepancy? let me guess with5 14 srsly thu u really didn't understand this

in islam we believe that juses was a propt & not god & this was proven many times it will as a discrepancy if you apply it with your illogical way i saw ur vid you really i advise u 2 see the debate between Islam & Christianity i told u before u can't use a sources from ur side to proof ur point like now it's discrepancy coz you defin it with ur rule not islam

[Texas75023]

@gamemanksa2009 Please do not confuse a 'CLAIM' from islam, with the concept of a 'Proof' or 'Proving'. When Mohammed made baseless and unsupported statements, those are not 'PROOFS', they are 'baseless' claims. It means they have no EVIDENCE and no FOUNDATION.

The Quran contradicts itself, brother. ONLY the 2 parties in a Covenant, God and Christians, have a RIGHT or even KNOWLEDGE to discuss the TERMS and MEANING of the Covenant BETWEEN THEM. Mohammed is simply an confused bystander.

[gamemanksa2009]

@Texas75023 from the quran An-Nisa,4:82 (Do they not consider the Qur'an? Had it been from any other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy)

This is a clear challenge to the non-Muslim that no i could won against it unlike the first vidio proves that the bible was corrupted that is why the muslum always wining the debate coz of there is no discrepancy in the quran and by the way allah means halaloya in english do u know that:) allah is the same god u worship my dear

[Texas75023]

@gamemanksa2009 Actually, Christians and jews HAVE considered the 'self-supporting (but baseless) claims by the author of the Quran. the MANY ERRORS in it HAVE convinced us it cannot be from God. The Quran JUDGES ITSELF, brother. And the judgment is condemnation of a false message from a false messenger.

When the Quran contradicts itself, as it does, it simply has NO chance to be taken seriously as a message from a deity. You can WATCH my video that prove it's faults, my friend.

[gamemanksa2009]

@Texas75023 not really can u please give me sources like i do as u c i was always giving u proofs frm none muslums nt a muslum coz f i bring my sources frm islam u'll not accept it &that is y u c my sources is acceptable coz i prove it with not my standers but none muslms agrees with it & they r all have knowledge more than both of us the thing that u said(the ruls have 2 ably on both )will i have aply it on myself but as i c u really ddn't apply it coz u only explain with no sources 2 pack u up

[Texas75023]

@gamemanksa2009 You are VERY confused, my friend. you state 'like i do as u c i was always giving u proofs frm none muslums ' and IN THE MESSAGE ABOVE, you write 'from the quran An-Nisa,4:82 (Do they not consider the Qur'an? Had it been from any other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy)'

I can see WHY you are completely confused, my friend. You do not seem to know what YOU have written. Seriously, brother, do not waste my time with obvious lies.

[mygodiselshaddai]

yes mohamed is in bible

Matthew chap 24

24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25Behold, I have told you before. 26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he(Mohamed) is in the desert(Arab land); go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers(cave where Moh received revelation which muslims call Quran); believe it not.

[Texas75023]

@mygodiselshaddai I agree with your reading of verse 24.

However, I believe the correct meaning of :25 has MORE to do with the appearance of the FALSE ISSA of Islam. This person will CLAIM to be Jesus Christ returned. I do not believe this refers to Mohammed.

[mygodiselshaddai]

@Texas75023

whomsoever that may be, that person is not important to us. :-)

[Texas75023]

@mygodiselshaddai the Word of God speaks of a 'Great Falling Away'

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Is this rejection of the Gospel 'for cause' or 'by deception'? The Word does not absolutely say.

Either way, brother, 2 Thes. 2:10-12 warns us to receive the LOVE of the Truth.

Best regards,

[lamentations32223]

A TEXT TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT BECOMES A PRETEXT -

It is clear that Mr. Deedat does not understand the necessity to preserve integrity and honesty when practicing Scriptural exegesis ... One must honour the authority of the text and the Author, namely - God ...

[lamentations32223]

A TEXT TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT BECOMES A PRETEXT .. this is how Mr. Deedat teach - He clearly does not understand the need for honest guidance, instruction and honouring God's Word ...

[1999sis]

mohammedeem is what it would sound like if it was translated in arabic from hebrew. both languages are sister -sistre languages.

[Texas75023]

That is simply an error, my friend. The word 'Machmad' is not a NAME of a man named Mohammed.

Deedat's error is a GROSS fabrication, corrupting the Word of God. And sadly as a hypocrit, he attacks the Word of God as CORRUPTED! LOL!

It is Mohammedans who DAILY attempt to corrupt the Word of God, my friend. MOHAMMEDANS... Those who WORSHIP the word of Mohammed above the Word of God (the Torah and Bible).

There is NOT ONE mention of Mohammed in the Bible, my friend. NOT ONE.

[101alpha101]

Muslims are not expecting to have Mohamad's name mentioned in the Quran. So whether it was mentioned or not it is not going to change anything.

But you tell me from the different versions of Bible which one did you rely on to say that he wasn't mentioned?

[Texas75023]

Non-sequitor, my friend. The problem for Mohammedism is that it is in the desperate position of having to support Mohammed's CLAIM that he is mentioned in the BIBLE.

If Mohammed SAID HE WAS, and HE WAS NOT mentioned, then this is an absolutely PROVABLE LIE by Mohammed. And you owe it to yourself to SEARCH for the TRUTH, my friend. QUESTION why men like DEEDAT have to LIE about such matters.

[master611]

If you think your so good with fiding errors. Go and follow dr Zakir naik urdu. That man is a genious, He knows every book. Thatman is really good. Didn't lost 1 debate of religion. Ill be looking forward for your new video about him. (if you make 1)

[Texas75023]

m611, they are on the way. But there are so many errors by Deedat, that correcting Dr. Naik falls much lower on the priority list.

Actually, my friend, presenting the TRUTH is the highest interest. Those who are LOOKING for the Truth will recognize it WHEN they finally get to see it.

But those who are not will only argue for the sake of arguing. And they will only see correcting Mr Deedat and Mr. Naik as attacking Mohammedism.

[onstantineable]

"suit their own purpose". Oh yeah. Right.

The reason can not be just because it possibly is the truth ofcourse.

Because if it was not the truth it would not suit your purpose ofcourse. Now , who shall we choose. Let's roll the dice. No , seriously , I think Deedak makes once again a interesting point here. Thanks Deedak.

[Texas75023]

onstantineable, greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

The reasons are clearly laid out in the video, my friend. Deedat's errors ARE errors because they ARE NOT the Truth. But you seem willing rather to simply accept error, and CALL it truth, instead of critically examining it, and letting an unbiased and objective view of the facts establish Truth independently.

Once you ASSUME Deedat speaks the truth, you ONLY view facts which support your assumption, my friend.

[101alpha101]

So far you didn't get a single proof that support you claims, you are going in a circle not even circles. Deedat presented the evidences can you get something that go against it. Let me help you with examples, like, hebrew wasn't the language of the Bible and her is the proof...Christ means the son of God her is the proof... and so on.

[Texas75023]

100alpha, the TRUTH is presented in the video, my friend. Actually WATCH IT, before posting in ignorance, my friend.

I understand you think you must wage jihad for Mohammedism. But you owe it to yourself as a human being created in the Image of Almighty God, to sincerely seek the TRUTH, and to hunger and thirst after RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Watch the video, which proves Deedats errors and logic problems, my friend.

[plentyolove]

Texas you are attacking islam based on some mistakes by one person.

\ that islam cannot be represented without deception, purely unfounded opinion of yours.

I could say the same thing about christianity

But I'd rather judge a religion based on its scriptures than by the mistakes of people who try to spread it.

that you just go on attacking and don't give any answer to my questions proves the weakness of your arguments.

I

[Texas75023]

LOL! I am attacking THE ERRORS OF DEEDAT. LOL! And you can only think I am attacking Mohammedism, which you call Islam.

But the REAL problem, my friend, is that it seems Mohammedism MUST BE SPREAD by such logical errors, tricks and deceptions. That is a very damning situation, my friend.

The REAL God of Abraham DOES NOT NEED tricks and errors and lies for HIS True religion to spread, my friend.

[101alpha101]

So you want tell us that a religion has been there for over 1300 years and has followers over 1 billion of people were waiting for deedat to use his tricks and deception to beleive in it? You are the clever one who caught it?

[Texas75023]

Oh, no. Mohammedism has been using tricks and deception from THE VERY BEGINNING, including Mohammed's unsubstantiated claims that he was mentioned in the 'Previous Scriptures'. There has never been found a single MANUSCRIPT from the time of Mohammed or earlier which INCLUDED the name of Mohammed as a 'Prophet To Come'.

And you still DO NOT ADDRESS Deedat's lies and errors, my friend. WHY does Deedat, the SMARTEST SPEAKER from Mohammedism NEED SUCH tricks to trick you and seal your hearts?

[clement4506399]

awesome.....video...continue posting many more videos.....so that people can realize the truth in Jesus and not mohammadeeeeeem...... a Million rates to this......

[marcostjohnable]

Texas, you pwn man!

[pello777]

You know whats even more scary is that after his last debate in Australia, he prayed that "Allah" would shut the mouth of who ever was misleading the audience of that debate and lo and behold, whose mouth was shut for 7 yrs before his death? We all know.

[mszeia]

y u didn't appear ths comment/ argument to Mr. Deedat when he was still alive??????!!!!!!

[Texas75023]

mszeia, Deedat was in a voice-less comma for 10 years before his death. YouTube has only been created in the last 5 years, so before that, his existence did not matter to me, my friend.

But now, his performances have been posted as proselytizing tools to trick people into Mohammedism. And that deception and error needs to be addressed and revealed, let any good souls be swept away in the confusion Deedat sells.

Feel free to pay close attention to the videos I make. They contain the Truth.

[plentyolove]

Okay my friend I as a muslim will accept that he did make mistakes.He was human after all,maybe he really thought it was muhammudimm.

Can you prove that you know hebrew and that the correct the word is makhmawd,which also sounds like mahmood in arabic,another variant of muhammad as are ahmed and hamid.

[Texas75023]

plentyolove, this is not so much a question of a 'mistake', my friend. It is his intentional deception and trickery that I find corrupt and evil.

But MOST telling, my friend, is that Deedat REPRESENTS the best presentation Mohammedism has to offer, and his BEST and MOST DRAMATIC talking points are pure deception.

This should speak LOUDLY to any person considering being tricked into following Deedat's religion. His religion CANNOT be presented honestly and without such deception.

[irishxxkelt]

5 stars Texas

[Texas75023]

WHY is Islam built on a foundation OF CORRUPTING the Word of God? That is the REAL serious question for all who follow Mohammed's words.

When your GREATEST ORATOR, Deedat, must TWIST and CORRUPT the Word of God to rationalize his arguments, that means his arguments are FALSE and do not naturally fit, OR DERIVE from the Word of God. They are CONTRARY to the Word of God.

If they are CONTRARY to the Word of God, and the FIT the Quran, then the QURAN is CONTRARY to the Word of God, my friends.

[TRUTHvsDECEPTION]

poor christian imaginary religion.god or son of god dead on cross for their sins.

by the way was that god or it was the son of god who die on cross ?

First of all Christian need to resolve this then challenge Muslim faith.

[Texas75023]

Actually, my friend, the Word of God is established and sure, and endorsed by the God of Abrham for CENTURIES before a strange man from a strange land came claiming to CHALLENGE IT.

So the BURDEN OF PROOF, my friend is on the man bringing the challenge against the Word of God.

PRODUCE YOUR PROOF. Don't just stand there and make baseless assertions like Mohammed did.

ADdRESS the PROBLEMS which DEEDAT has, when DEEDAT must CORRUPT and CHANGE the Word of God to ATTEMPT to insert Mohammed.

[Dagod25]

what interest me is if the bible is so false and croputed why would he even care if mohadamed was metioned in it in the first place

[Texas75023]

Dagod25, greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

Those who worship the Quran are desperate to FIND Mohammed SOMEWHERE in the Bible, because Mohammed MADE THE CLAIM that he was mentioned in the previous scriptures, in the Quran. 7.157 'Those who follow the Apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own Scriptures, in the Torah and the Gospel.

This is an EASILY refuted claim, which proves the Quran is False. Therefore they MUST argue.

[Texas75023]

Dagod(2) the interesting thing is that Mohammedans chose EVERY possible 'ambiguous' reference , and some that are NOT EVEN SLIGHTLY plausible, such as 'MachMad', which means 'Altogether Lovely', being the NAME of Mohammed. OR Deedat CHANGING the TEXT ITSELF from 'Altogether Lovely', which is a CORRECT TRANSLATION of Machmadim, CHANGING it to 'Praised One'.

This level of intentional fraud by Deedat is astonishing and staggering.

[Texas75023]

Dagod(3) There are a handful of examples where 'Prophecies' are claimed to be Mohammed, but the approach used by Mohammedans, is to Claim the Prophecy, but IGNORE MOST of the details of the Prophecy.

Deut 18.18 is one CLEAR case. John 14 is another. Jesus says He will send a 'Comforter, the Holy Spirit'. The fraudulent gymnastics are amazing to watch and I hope to produce ANOTHER video about THAT contortion act by Deedat.

If you have any question, please ask.

[irishxxkelt]

Muslims want it both ways.....the Bible is corrupt/the Bible foretold Mohammed.

[IWannabeJew]

Songs 5:16 says "machmadim". If anything, it would be better translated "Muhammedans", according to his pesherist interpretation of this verse.

[IWannabeJew]

Deedat was either an ignoramus or a liar. If we consulted all occurences of forms of "machmad", we would conclude that Muhammad was a Zionist.